Now that the essence has been absorbed, what's the /v/erdict on Yakumo?
He's cool but I never understood how his powers are supposed to work, blood makes staff big hammer how exactly
>Defeated the big bad>Exhausted, sword in hand>Watched the sun rise>"Mission Complete"I really like how this franchise continues to be traditionally badass in its presentation even after so many years have passed and with a skinnier protagonist.
Has NG4 been datamined?
>>724606482Yakumos penis
>>724606482Did this game flop? I didn't buy it because of the Cut content and paid costume.
>>724608619Its a huge success, everyone loves it
>>724606482He ruined the game.Brought the whole thing crashing down and this gigantic flop might dissuade other devs to stay away from this subgenre of action games - opting to instead stick with much more simple and successful Soulslikes as an action game template. Sekiro outselling and getting more acclaim than DMC5 in 2019 forever changed the trajectory of the industry.Platinum and TN had ONE (1) chance to make this right and they squandered it all on Viola 2.0 that stole the MC's spot, levels and every single weapon including the main Dragon Sword moveset.By trying to bring in new fans with this horrible and misguided character they killed the whole franchise.0/10 I hope he dies in a half assed manga tie-in.
>>724606482I like him. I like those cold serious types in general. I think Yakumo is cool.
>>724608619The 6 people that bought it, loved it.
>>724606950Surprised blood magic is where you draw the line in this setting. But they do kind of explain it. His blood technique activates special power in certain special weapons that change their form to suit him
>>724606482not as edgy as they made him out to be. wonder why they gave him that look. like the dmc4 inspiration the game wears on its sleeves, yakumo is like nero with less yelling and wisecracking.gameplay-wise he plays too much like ryu and that left ryu with too little to set him apart by the time you get to him aside from ninpo. and then he fucking gets ryu's moveset too. hope the dlc really shake things up.
>>724606482Made me chuckle once but pretty much every character in this game is pretty boring. Same for the whole franchise really.I like his get up and how he's basically just a "gen-z" ryu.
>>724609706>and then he fucking gets ryu's moveset too.But he doesn't get the ninpos.
>>724606482he's shit.and this game doesn't even have essence."Blood-essence" is the most downgraded Low IQ shit that misses the entire point of essence as a mechanic.
>>724610009Dont kid yourself, the essence mechanic was always balanced like dogshit
>>724610009you still make more money in ng2 by spamming UTs than not. the risk-reward is actually just reward-reward-reward
>>724610283literally false. You make way more money if you absorb it normally.you also need HP or Ninpo sometimes but can choose to sacrifice it.that whole risk-reward aspect is now gone.
>>724606482he's fucking gay
>>724606482>Literally just doesn't work on certain intel cpus even if you have the specsGreat fucking pc port.
>>724610402no, the UT itself is much more likely to generate big essence than any other kill method, and you still get money even when you absorb it for a UT.no UTs: no essence or some little onesUT spam: big essence all the time, worth more than little essence even when used in essence guiding
>>724606482I like him a lot, he's incredibly edgy but it's not overplayed and it works.
I was going to complain this game has too many cliffs but then I started abusing Guillotine Throw to instakill stuff and now I understand the vision.
>>724610450>>Literally just doesn't work on certain intel cpus even if you have the specsI think it's some missing video codecs bullshits... how is this NOT patched yet??game doesnt work on my windows 10 freshly installed PC (LTSC however) , but works just fine on another Windows 11 PC.Many others seem to have this damn issue to according to steam forums and other few sites
>>724609447you confused it with your game
>>724611063I didn't.
>>724610585so then>UT>take full essence>repeatwould still give more essence than just non-stop UT spam.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=n4BK_-M5IroSo from 2:00 mark onward. What happened there?
>>724612835all of ryus moves including his flying swallow and UTs are too easily interrupted. lacks super armor on many moves and your hitboxes take priority.they just made him way too easy. He's programmed to charge UTs at you which are basically free damage when you interrupt him.
>>724606482Boring character with no aura. Ryu mogged him in his own game. Yet another shit new protag but this one actually killed the franchise dead for good.
NG2 Survival has the best essence system in the series and I'll forever be upset green orbs disappeared after that.
>>724606482/ourninja/
I've S ranked half of hard mode now, things are looking up
They don’t even have ryus classic outfit they just have the ninja gaiden 3 one. I like the original suit the most it looks slick
>>724613217If yakumo got the murasama would its blood form be dual blades?
I feel like tensions sword has more range I could be just high
>>724613325Maybe a twinblade? Bloodraven weapons tend to be heavier
>>724613670Genshin*
>>724611426if you were capable of killing every enemy in the game with a raw UT sure. no one would ever do that though because you would get fucked sideways for it and you get all the money you would ever need bu spamming essence techniques
honestly I never use the dual blade blood charge attacks, that shit takes too long
>>724610884The tengu levels are great for that.
>>724611191you sure seem threatened enough by this niche game which supposedly only 6 people bought it. why are you so set in trying to convince others (and yourself) that the game is shit? no need to be such a worrywart lil bro, if KT/Team Ninja survived all these years making game which were never massive hits in the west, this one wont be the one to break them. e33 is a shit game made by faggots for faggots btw lmao!
It took a while but Magatsuhi finally clicked with me. Holy shit this thing kicks ass.
Ryu is boring compared to yakumo. Why would they do this?
>>724614817Brevity is the soul of wit. Yakumo is a tokyo ghoul muh edgy blooood arts overcompensating faggot.Ryu wins.
>>724614817Because you play as Yakumo for the majority of the game, it'd be a problem if the guy you play as for a few levels was way more fun.
>>724614789The release timing is too tight for me compared to Kage-Hiruko. It's not Just Judgement Cut hard, but pretty close.
Give him his own series, Yakumo has so much potential.
>>724615107We're getting Yakumo trilogy.
>>724606482Is he really the main part of the game? Is this another DMC4 situation with nero?
>>724615015Mostly the timing is around when the hammer connects with an enemy. It's worth it man the weapon went from a ghostfish merchant to a boss killer for me.
>>724615390>when the hammer connects with an enemyAh. So it's Nero's EX-Act but with one button instead of two. Alright, I'll hit the training room.
>>724615107who cares about this faggot? Since Itagaki passed away, I wanna see a Ninja Gaiden with Kasumi and Ayane now. I wanna see big fat tits and asses in thongs, covered head to toe in demon blood. That'd be cool as fuck!
>>724615157Kino
>DMC enemies are mostly stationary so players can have more freedom in doing combos without interruption>Ninja Gaiden enemies are known to be really aggressive even off screen so the franchise isn't known to be a combo game>Enter Ninja Gaiden 4 where it has bothHave Platinum make DMC6 next please.
>>724615758>>724615015man the timing isn't even as close to being as strict as those
>>724616321>DMC enemies are mostly stationary so players can have more freedom in doing combos without interruptionWhere does this meme come from? Combo videos? Early difficulties of first few stages or Bloody Palace? DMC5's built-in training mode?In any case, you should try playing the games some time.
>>724617351I mean in comparison to NG. DMC enemies are generally never in a hurry to attack you unless it’s Blitz, Fury, or Nobody.Honorable mention to Damned Chessmen who are NOT aggressive but still annoying with how you have to wait for them to open up.
I though its going to be like MGR or Nier Automata but I dont get this gameplay. Too fast and they throw too many mechanics at you at once. I am glad that all 37 of ninja gaiden fans are having fun tho
>>724606482Wasn't as bad as he initially looked, he's largely inoffensive. He pales in comparison to Ryu, and I think platinum did a good job of making Ryu an absolute monster compared to him, even with fewer options. It also helps that you can do all the challenge content with Ryu, so that you never have to touch him again after the initial playthrough if you really didn't enjoy him.His bloodraven attacks are probably the most fun thing about him.
>>724606482A perfect contrast to Ryu that over the course of the game matures and becomes less edgy (he already wasn't that edgy to boot).
how do I stop wind run from autoaimingI keep jumping into bottomless pits
>>724606482Shadow hedgecoldsteel but kinda boring atleast isnt the faggy dmc 4 nero with kid temper tantrums like when some fly mobs steal his gf so he cries and punch the ground retardedly>>724616321No thx i dont want nero 2 stealing the game and donte stop being lone virgin and goes to hell forever dead the end
>>724615368yes, they even copypaste fight against mc to obtain the mcguffin sword of previous games
>>724616321I think this game struck the perfect balance of enemies being aggressive and dangerous while also giving the player a lot of individual agency to play how they want. It's exactly what I've always wanted from a game in this genre.
>>724619153I really don't like those flying dudes. I know it's easy to just hook on to a grapple point and batman slide to them but I always have to take a second to realize "oh yeah I can do that" in the middle of a fight.
>>724619103Yikes. Chances of a black edition?
>>724619442I actually find myself relying on the grapples less as I play the game more. It's a bit more straightforward to just bloodraven jump up there or hit them with projectiles until they come down.
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
>>724620349Just block nigga. Still better than most bosses in 2.
>>724620349at least you can actually win
>>724620451Their sweep breaks block and then you miss your opportunity to hit them. You jump over the sweep then do an aerial attack with dahilabra
>>724614190i use them in air when there aren't a lot of enemies around me to anti air
The magnetism criticism is genuinely the worst one you can have, who the fuck even sits still on the ground mashing X X X instead of using FS or jump dash or jump shuriken ??Is FS magnetism too?
>>724620349I stood on the right side of the platform and they whiffed every attack. Then UT spam with the dabidildo
>>724606482He alright
>>724622074I bet Ayane teases and bullies him when he was a wee lil ninja lad for her to get that response
>>724622156We need more Ayane bullying Yakumo in the dlc. Maybe they pick up where they left off too.
I look like this
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>>724606482is there porn of him yet, havent been on /y/ or /cm/ to check
>>724606950It's literally blood bending, he's pumping blood into his weapons to change their forms.
Anyone else can't post images?
>>724624453i can but ive had probs making threads. captcha is but wonky
>>724624118Umi....
>>724620771Roll after getting your guard broken.
>>724614624Hyperbole lil bro.>trying to convince others (and yourself) that the game is shit?Who the fuck said that? It's a good game. It just bombed and there's no reason to schizopost around that fact.>e33 is a shit game made by faggots for faggots btw lmao!True. So? Dude take your meds.
I loved it when Ryu said his iconic catchphrase.
>>724620542I feel no shame stunlocking this boss with the scythe.
>>724625298Tell me about the dinosaurs?
I respect his strength and trust him to complete the mission.>get to see the jays win it all >more kami gaiden 4this weekend is gonna be kino
I am not ready for the chapter 1 fight before the boss in MN fresh save
>>724606482This fucker single handedly killed my favourite franchise I hate him so much. He is so fucking ugly and lame and has no story or development or personality, everyone took one look at him and had no interest in NG4 unless they were huge action game fans and that led to this game selling literally 0.2 million copies max. Fuck Yakumo and fuck Platinum for desecrating the corpse of Ninja Gaiden.
>>724626736ng5 wouldn't be real even if it sold 1 mil in a day you fucking retards how dumb can you be look at other action games and how slow they release sales don't matter at all
>>724609706>SpoilerTo be honest, Ryu is way more powerful. With gleam increasing his range and speed and his ninpos, he basically doesn't need any more weapons.
>>724615758>So it's Nero's EX-Act but with one button instead of two.Why didn't they do this in the first place?
>>724606482Just finished downloading and will be playing after work, any tips? Like is there a setting in the menu that’s both retarded and on by default or the default control scheme a bit wonky
He’s fine, I don’t really mind successor characters especially in game series that have the MCs going through incredibly rough shit and Ryu could use a vacation, man’s shoulders are getting so big from carrying the world they’re bound to tear from the bone at the rate he was going on, probably couldn’t take a piss without 20 armed guys coming from out of a stall beside him
>>724626736ok
>>724629272turn off hit laguse control scheme 3don't get hit
>>724633221>turn off hit lagIs it me or is hitstop actually really tiny in this game? I can barely notice and often forget which setting I'm using until I go and check. Sigma 2 is a much bigger difference using the Black mod and toggling it on and off.
>>724622483I look like this.
hmph...
>>724615368Yeah, but to be fair Ryu is one of those few game characters that really earned a break, I’d completely understand if next time we saw him he had 6 kids, those images of him maskless and he has the most stressed crazy sunken eyes convinced me the guy probably has his head on a swivel even during his downtime
>>724633221>don't get hitBut I’m bad at games, I think? Idk I have this weird mental tick where I let myself get damaged by enemies if I’m doing too well, some odd thought that its not a real fight if it’s a one sided stomp, I don’t know if it’s autism
TOWAH in da club
Yakumo is fun as hell to play ngl brosI think Ryu might end up being more fun if he gets like 2-3 more weapons and real time weapon switching.
Really hope we get another Victor Borba track in the DLC.
>>724628819not him but maybe the devs thought it'd be better to encode it to the button release than to have a dedicated button just to do that, which then becomes useless for ryu
Seori...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5h4zoVwKJc
not ryunot ninja gaiden
>>724634937TOKYO>DISCOTOKYO>DISCOTOKYO>DISCO
>>724635092The vocal tracks in this game were really weak in my opinion, don't get the hype about this guy, Bury the Light is nothing special either. MGR had much stronger vocal tracks.At least the OST is still great with everything else, but the DDO buttrock themes are ass.
>>724636384I love them
imagine being a fucking shill for ninja gaiden 4, the game that unironically killed ninja gaiden for good and might kill platinum games (thank god). Every 15 minutes the zoomjeet will boost the thread only to make another one.>yeah bro the difficulty is so well made bro>yeah bro the trials hmmm so good breh>bro this is /our/ ninjaIt can't get any lamer than this fucking thread, and the failed generation of zoomniggers. The status quo of mediocre games will continue until the gaming industry crashes, 4chan is dead it doesn't even make sense for shills to be here but somehow it's important to kill the culture of the site through bad faith posting.Hey i can't wait to read another >VTMB2 is a good game, great gameplay, better gameplay than the first oneWhen it feels like it's using a stock asset UE5 template for it.For you dumbfuck niggers, Hate hate Hate.
I get high on pills and just listen to the pause menu music.What are the best accessories to equip btw? I don’t have any of them on I forgot they’re a thing.
>>724636972but the vast majority thinks vtmb2 is horrible what are you on schizo
>>724637070Both killed their respective IPs, Ain't that a fucking coincidence.>>724637009Choke on them trannyzoomer faggot , kill yourself already
Yakumo is simply more fun just because of that fucking hammer. They somehow made an actual fun hammer with a cool concept.
>>724636972Meme spouting retard
I've played this game for a couple of hours now. Are all the levels gonna be futuristic cyberslop with crates and boxes everywhere? I thought Ninja Gaiden had villages and temples and stuff like the ds game... Might have to drop this one bros
>>724636972ok
>>724637384Hey friend I got no beef with you I’m a shit I know I just wanna get through the day for a few minutes so I take them. No need to be mean
>>724637430There's a mountain temple type of area with some levels.
>>724606482His design is still gay as fuck. You cant be this small while being able to weird massive swords at high speeds, and cutting down people almost twice your height. Its dumb. The only redeeming factor is his personality is still ninja coded, and changing dialogue to Japanese fixes a lot of the cringe dialogue. As usual, DUB is fucking garbage.
>>724637430all levels are going to be a straight line with arenas, all levels and the degisn in general is going to be generic assets , it's abhorrent.
>>724636972>reddit spacing
Why doesn’t yakumo go into the air after the perfect dodge bloodraven sword attack lands? He just giant slices enemies into the air and no follow-up. The bloodraven sword seems so dog shit too it takes so long for it to charge man, they should’ve made it low how Sam’s charge attacks are in rising which is similar to the hammer.
>>724637802hahah fucking EPIC bro nice post absolutetly RIZZ BREH.Kill yourself tranny, choke on the pills, you will never have sex.
>>724637009They make a pretty substantial difference, just choose whatever sounds cool to you since you don't have any at all.
>>724606482Just finished the game on hard for my first run.>start the game>hate it>unlock ryu>suddenly love it>go back to yakhomo>hate it again>unlock DDB>love the game againI rate it 8/10. The game would be 9/10 if it only had ryu.2>=1>4>>>3For some reason this stupid shit won't save my clear file.Also why the fuck were my purgatory clears in the campaign not recorded? I spent hours completing all of them on hell difficulty, what a waste of time.And they let you start master ninja with save carry over now? Why????
>>724637828BR sword can launch and go into the air with light heavy or backlash parry.Light heavy can be offset into very easily. I like BR sword, it's probably my favorite of the bloodraven weapons, although I think the box is the most powerful.
>>724637828It's true that they take too long to charge, but the non charged attacks are excellent. It's the opposite from the drill that does a gorillion damage and hitstun on charge but the non charged moves are worthless.
>>724638000>And they let you start master ninja with save carry over now? Why????Master Ninja in 4 is balanced around an end-game character from the start.You can still start is on a fresh save, but it's way more punishing than previous NG games because of how much damage enemies do, so you really have to nail the new defensive mechanics.
>>724638000>ps5 nigro>Abhorrent taste and opinionslike pottery , 4 is the modern day 3
>>724637828Only the ground attacks take long to charge, and you don't really have to charge all of them in a combo. You can offset into the later attacks or go for uncharged attacks into light attacks. The charged ones are pretty great and have super high delimb as well as a lot of moves with block properties. I think all BR weapons have block properties on some of their moves, but BR sword is quite nice because of the huge range on the charged moves.
>>724638000I'm at the DDB level and I'm surprised to see that the moveset is incomplete and no options to level it up with Yakumo. I know you can unlock it in the post game and it's the full moveset, but that's just an extra, I don't see why anyone would see this in a negative light. The amount of "omg he has all of Ryu's moveset, they did him dirty boo hoo" posts I've read made me think he would be the exact same and make Ryu trivial in the story. He's clearly not on his level yet and gameplay reflects that, but he has his own style so he's faster and can cancel out of moves Ryu can't without Gleam. Pretty cool.Ninpo also ended up being a lot better and more fun to use than I expected in this game. Probably my favorite iteration of Ninpo yet. Cicada Surge should come back in the DLC.
>>724606482Dumb mask.
Ah, time for another thread long meltdown
The third X for the ground BR sword combo is so satisfying. But to me it's the pogo moves, I use them all the time and in Berserk mode they're straight up broken.
>>724638240DDB and the gleam mechanics are crazy fun to use in weapon switching combos. Everything comes together so well. I really hope Ryu also gets the real time weapon switching in the DLCI want cicada surge back too anon.
>>72463829610/30/25(Thu)20:57:4412 hours bumping the thread.I'm not having a meltdown, the execs at Platinum are, to me this is a celebration plus i get to shit on some jeets and zoomniggers? Hey sign me IN!
Game was pure kino. Entire game start to finish was just cool as hell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFHvFVbVpc0&list=LL&index=6
Yakub's strongest soldier
>>724606482Honest thoughts? He's ok. His design is fine and personality-wise he's just a straightforward stoic ninja with a little edge which fits well with the series. There's genuinely not much to be mad about other than them making him the focus yet calling this 4 instead of making it a subtitled entry.
For Halloween I'm gonna play 3 and Yaiba back to back. Nothing scarier than that.
He is actively ruining my enjoyment of the game. He’s so fucking lame. I don’t get why devs do this shit? Ryu already looks sick and iconic. You get the opportunity to work on a Ninja Gaiden game and you actively shop as not to make use of the Ninja Gaiden protagonist? Why?
>>724639363Magatsuhi my beloved.
>>724614817Because the little shit stole all of Ryu’s moves
>>724608453Seconding this. I read in a previous thread that they found that Ryu will have two weapons in the dlc. I want to see the datamine to see if there's hints of any new features. I love Team Ninja DLC. Their only miss has been vanilla NG3's DLC, but they've historically had a good run with DLC.>NG04 Hurricane Packs>NG2 Mission Mode DLC>Nioh DLC>Nioh 2 DLC>Stranger of Paradise DLCSince NG4's DLC is adding new weapons, story, postgame, etc. How can I not be excited when they've done amazing DLC in the past? I need to know. I got to know.
>>724638010>>724638028>>724638237Thanks and I forget this game has dodge offset, need to mess around with it more.
Platinum hasn't made a single good game after Nier killed thier drive to make actual interesting games. Also Kamiya left. No wonder NG4 feels the way it does, abhorrent modern gaming for the abhorrent modern troglodyte
>>724639726NG4 is more challenging and has more depth than Nier Automata thoughneit.
>niche franchise with established character>devs: fans are going to love this NEW CHARACTERwhy do they keep doing this
>>724639584Don't let the memes fool you. That man is unironically one of the most powerful characters in all of vidya in both gameplay and story.
>>724617351>memeIt’s the fucking truth. Cope and seethe. You literally have to play the games 4 times 5 times over before they give you a challenging difficulty. Fucking joke of a series. DMC players are more akin to dancers and performers than gamers.
>>724638372>this is a celebration plus i get to shit on some jeetsThe browns are NG2fags.
>>724639815>NG4 is more challenging and has more depth than Nier Automata thoughneit.Not really, it feels more on-rails at times even.
>>724639694I wouldn't expect Team Ninja standards necessarily because this is Platinum. I doubt they make their DLCs thinking "we need to have X amount of stuff in it" and it's probably moreso "we have X amount of time to make this, let's do as much as we can"So it depends on how much Platinum can do rather than them paying however much it'll cost to hit a content threshold.
>>724640032one of the biggest retards i've seen today congrats
I just finished playing NG Black on XEMU and started playing NG2 on XENIA right after and holy shit the game feels smooth as responsive as fuckI then walked down a hallway and got gangraped by 20 enemiesKino first impression
>>724606482The worst part of the game. Cringe ass deviant art OC. You gotta be underaged to find this character cool.
>>724639878NG4 isnt made with the original team. A new character lets everyone know its a different game than its predecessor.Ryu testing Yakumo is a direct metaphor, "changing of the guard".
>>724639924Well yeah, he is so strong that he has to constantly reset the universe just to create someone strong enough to kill him after he took control of said universe.
>>724639878In this case at least it's to have a character as the representative of the developer studio. Yakumo is a Platinum character, and they can express themselves more freely than they would feel comfortable with / allowed to with Ryu.I can't really imagine Ryu with a rocket hammer or surfing on a blood drill. Even when sharing a moveset there are key differences, dodge offset isn't nearly as useful with Ryu because cancelling his moves into dodge is only really responsive with the probably unintended gleam cancel, which loses the offset. Meanwhile Yakumo can cancel the exact same moves much earlier, making dodge offset, a Platinum trademark, much more useful for the same weapon.Yakumo is their pass to go all out making their own spin on Ninja Gaiden. Maybe if it sold well and the DLC is well received with the brand new Ryu content, they could make a full Ryu game for the sequel. But alas it did not sell enough for a sequel.
>>724640153He grew on me his costumes are just arguably the worst in the entire series.
>>724615936finally, a good post
>>724640153No, you had to be underaged in 2002 to find him cool now, key difference here.
I’m sure Yakooma and his posse will go down in the annals of gaming history as one of the greats, unlike that old and boring Ryu
>>724640062I hope Team Ninja tard wrangles Platinum into meeting their standards for DLC. All that stuff was promised in interviews.>new weapons>extra story>new post-game mode that isn't just trialsIt already sounds like a Nioh-tier DLC pack, and I hope the new mode is NG's take on Nioh's Abyss mode. Even the new weapons are hype if we can use them in the base game's chapter challenge and trials.
>>724640008To be fair you need to be suicidal to like a game that runs at 15fps. 2Black is better than 4 doe, 3Sigma is better than 4.
>>724640329I was born in 2002 and find him cool
>>724640147Finally a sane poster. This is literally all it takes to see how shit NG4 is. Should've played 2Black, OG 2 was unfinished and rushed
>>724640403Zoomers are the biggest generational failure to ever exist.
>>724640437I wish 2Black had OG2's Mission Pack DLC content instead of Tag Missions...
>>724640259Ryu’s a video game character. They exist to be experimented with. They’re not religious figures. He’s already appeared in a horrendous game before, and it’s not like he’s got much a personality to begin wIth, so you’d have to try really hard to fuck him up.
>>724606482https://youtu.be/1y9M1cOm0aE?si=_YJpv7WarGQWGp4nThis new OC faggot should never have existed and been playable before Hayate and Kasumi. He does have a fun moveset though but that’s besides the damn point.
What is Platinum’s aversion to using colour in their games and different environments? This entire game feels like one huge level.
>>724637828the perfect dodge move is for hitting enemies above you. it's very good on the flying wolf thing boss.charging is way too slow but the moves are good uncharged too. just do strings.
This nigga's posts are becoming more low effort as the threads go by.
>>724640496Watch your wrists don't break from holding that can too high, gramps.
demon yakumo is kicking my ass on hard wtf
>>724640496Watch your dick don't break from fucking and creampieing all that zoomette pussy, gramps.
>>724606482This faggot just simply doesn't feel as good to control as ryu. Every move ryu does has weight, every swing there's an intent, there isn't any wasted movement in his combos.Meanwhile this retard does 360 spins every hit like a ballerina, it's fucking annoying and it doesn't do any damage.
>>724640642If anyone got replaced, it's Hayate since Yakumo is now Ryu's friendly rival whom he fights side-by-side with.
>>724640437>Should've played 2BlackIsn't 2Black just Sigma 2 with a fresh coat of paint over it?I thought people liked OG2 the most (even with the enemy spawn problems)
>>724641313Yeah, it's Sigma 2 but with better balance and less content.
>>724641313>Isn't 2Black just Sigma 2 with a fresh coat of paint over it?Not really after the patch to be honest.
>>724641313Ignore any retard shilling demake slop.
>>724606482Regardless of how you feel about him now, history will remember him as the shitter that killed Ninja Gaiden.
I'm playing through NG2 for the first time now and this series really is 2 for 2 for amazing airship levels. It especially feels good in NG2 getting to fight mostly ninjas again after the last few missions were big lycans and demons
>the trial in ch4 Golly jeez i sure love offscreen projectile spam.
>>724641313Sigma 2 was considered superior to the original, the original was not well received and was seen as a shitty sequel, it shares a lot with of problems with ng4 which are now seen as pogger features (UT spam, execution, shitty story). https://www.eurogamer.net/ninja-gaiden-2-review?page=2
>>724640642Yakumo is way cooler
>>724640563I don't personally disagree, but are you not seeing the reactions to Ryu in this game? Or how they were in 3? A surprising amount of people tie their identity and self worth to how Ryu Hayabusa is portrayed and how it compares to NG2.The reactions are proving Platinum right.
>>724640403So you were underaged in 2002. I win.
>>724641313The best way to play both Sigma 2 AND 2Black is with the mods that try to change them BACK into what OG 2 was like.Which begs the question of 'why play those when you can just emulate the original instead'In short: OG2 is still the best>>724642003Don't listen to this nig, Sigma 2 is just a gimped version of the OG with more shit bosses and less content.>https://youtu.be/qj1BeAgVuFY?si=xYkFeFi2RI8-xSu0&t=698>https://youtu.be/vE8_tQcAN1I?si=ZQ86r3i5yNuklD4T&t=643
>>724642281>Which begs the question of 'why play those when you can just emulate the original instead'Emulation still has bugged audio. Either play Sigma 2 with the Black mod or wait for the native PC port of 2 that fans are working on.
>>724642281oh no not the youtuber opinion LMAO
>>724641965lol get ready for the next trail
I do not understand why /v/ hates this game. It was fun and cool as fuck, I don't get it
>>724642459average NG thread where every game is hated
>>724637724>You cant be this small while being able to weird massive swords at high speeds, and cutting down people almost twice your height. Its dumb.You’re new to video games or you’re a typical dudebro fratfaggot from the 2000s-2010s whose only gaming experiences are brown grey FPS and you just woke up from a decade long coma.
>>72464245970% of it is just shitposts that actually drown out real criticism.
>>724642385Apparently muting 'System Sounds' in the volume mixer stops the emulator's audio from cutting out (it's weird but it worked for me)>>724642405Those are two informative videos that quickly compare all versions of the game and give you a rundown of what's been changed and what to expectYou can inform yourself if you want, it is no different than the eurogamer article that was linked
>>724642579>You can inform yourself if you want, it is no different than the eurogamer article that was linkedI don't have to, i played the games and sigma/black 2 are superior to the original xbox 360 game. shittier color palette thoughbeit
>>724639972You sound like a try hard but are shit at every game.
>>724640259>they can express themselves more freely than they would feel comfortable with / allowed to with Ryu.This. Pretty sure they said as much themselves in one of the blogs.>>724640563>They’re not religious figures.You could've fooled me with the amount of autism in these threads. There's already enough seething about how Plat fucked up the tracking or the OTs or didn't put this and that move in the game, etc.
I wish Yaiba was in the game as a mini boss to humiliate that loser as Yakumo does all he do much better (skills, design and writing wise)
>>724639972Post your S-Ranks
>>724642832Yaiba at least gave us the best Izuna Drop.
NG2 bros ....... I don't feel so good
>>724642579Well, shit, guess my next playthrough will be in the emulator, then. Thanks for letting me know.
>>724637430There is a mountain temple level but it's also very dull and dready with the same colour palette as everything else.
>>724643019nigga is acting like all those realm of hell purgatory isn't designed to spam UTs
>>724643019Sadly doesn't stop UT chaining, but it is funny when enemies say NO to my initial UT.
>>724643160I don't get why they don't revert UTs back to how they were in NG1. They weren't perfect but they're a lot better than how the rest of the series handled them.
>>724638000>ps5 chadFinally, someone who actually plays video games.
>>724640259>But alas it did not sell enough for a sequel.Consumers responded appropriately. The game looks ugly as hell from marketing and nobody likes Yakumo, the character's design and personality actively pushes away potential players.
>>724643286>Patch notes: Enemies killed by UTs no longer drop essenceThere, I fixed the system.
NG4 has a lot of really good weapons but none of them can touch my beloved
Kage-Hiruko spam on MN > UT spam on MN
>>724643357>DLC puts Ryu front and center>Release an NG4 Black which puts Ryu front and center>Gives him more shit>Makes it so you can play him from the start>No Microsoft marketing, so it sells betterScreencap it. We're not getting NG5, but NG4B will be the end.
>>724643019The game is still designed with UT spamming in mind, you just need to kill someone first to absorb their essence. Almost all enemies will never block a quick charged UT.
>>724643482I really don't like this weapon, it's just land Y spam
Haven't got to NG4 yet so don't know if it does this but it's kind of crazy that the rankings in these games don't take deaths into account.
>>724643357Maybe, but Ninja Gaiden was never that much of a seller, they lost the gamble but if they wanted it to sell well they needed a gamble. It's not like Ryu only would guarantee sales.DMC5 sold more than the entire Ninja Gaiden series combined.DMC5 10 millionhttps://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e250613.htmlNinja Gaiden series 7.5 millionhttps://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/e/ir/docs/ir3_20250127e.pdfThat was before 2 Black, but there is no way a remaster did enough to close that gap. MAYBE with both 2B and 4 the series sold as much as one DMC game.I feel like 4 was basically them testing the waters to see if nowadays action games can sell as much as their action RPGs, the answer is clearly no. Expect 30 more Nioh spinoffs in the next 3 years.
>>724643052That's just something that worked for me after I read about it in the comments here>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgXrTTpSPJwThere's no guarantee that it'll work for you, but you can always scour around the comments here to find another fix for it
>>724643286>no le action cutscene every single milisecond with le bisexual gay ass nigger zoomerlightsLook if i press button something awesome has to happen, button and awesome ok? not button and gameplay
>>724643676it does lol
>>724643547Oh yeah?*OLUT's you*
>>724643482Needed more moves where you throw the scythe. It has a cool one in 3RE, but it's not as fun to use overall as in 2.Take 2's scythe, give it a bunch of round trip moves, there, perfect weapon. Hopefully Yakumo's scythe will be that.
>>724643751It already has a round trip move in 2. It's the flying bird flip heavy attack.
>>724643676the scoring system in 1 and 2 is completely half-assed. the game is significantly more boring when you go for high ranks and have to spam one move.3 and 4 have better ones.
>>724643751The scythe is definitely the BR version so I'm actually wondering what it is before it transforms.
>>724643850I know, which is why I said more, this one is way too situational. It is very cool, though.
>>724643685>I feel like 4 was basically them testing the waters to see if nowadays action games can sellKoei wasn't testing anything they already knew it wouldn't be a massive hit. The whole reason Xbox got involved with this game was because KT didn't want to pay for a new NG themselves in the first place.
>>724644026It would make no sense at all but I want it to be kick-based. Need a kick based weapon in NG4.
>>724643685DMC5 was a series revival that put its legacy front and centre (the main theme of the game is literally called Legacy), all the beloved characters of the series, both major and small, appeared and got moments to shine. If it was the last ever DMC game, it's a game that leaves everything and every character in a place where fans would be happy with them.NG4 was a series revival that rejected the legacy of the series and did as much as possible to put it behind, timeskipping the series forward several decades and only featuring Ryu because they knew heads would roll if they didn't, but he is still barely in the game. It's an insult to people who love Ninja Gaiden and also a pitiful attempt to attract new fans with terrible uninspired designs.
>>724644074Sure, but they also make money from sales, no? Or do they just get the initial licensing deal?If they make money from sales, they could stand to gain from pushing it to be more like Nioh. They went with "since it's not coming from our pockets anyway, let's see how it goes, it's worth a try."
>>724643751>>724644026Maybe the scythe throw can be the bloodraven projectile, it'll shishkebab humanoid enemies and draw them in.
flopped harder than rise of the shartnin
>>724644247What you're not considering is that DMC still has 30 million users over NG. No matter what they did, it never had any chance of becoming a massive hit because the series never was. 4 could at the same time be the most successful game in the series and a flop by modern standards.A DMC game that sold as much as the rest of the series combined would be one of the best selling games of the generation. A NG game that sold as much as the rest of the series combined wouldn't be as big of a success as DMC5.
>>724642003>shitty story)I never understood this. Sure, 2's story isn't some sheaksperean tragedy like dmc3Bur it's solid and it works: Evil Ninja Clan unleashes greater fiends, Greater Fiends cause havoc across the globe, Hayabusa has to fix and make some pussy wet along the way. And genshin as a whole has a great interaction with Hayabusa. Again, it's nothing amazing, but it works for the game.
>>724644313Regular BR B has him swinging the scythe and a gust of blood and wind is fired, like the 2 UT, charged BR B is a round trip. I like it.
>>724642385>native PC port of 2 that fans are working on.Real shit? Link to progress of that?
>>724644448Is this any good? Ignored it because open world.
when a game is so good it kills the IP kek
>>724644458Of course I'm not saying a NG4 with Ryu and all the characters from the old games plastered everywhere would sell 10 million, but it would absolutely sell more than <200k like NG4 seems to be doing.
>>724644567Someone posted the main guy's twitter before, but I don't remember what it is because I don't use twitter. He was trying to find more people with C++ experience to help IIRC.
>>724644648NG4 is on pace to sell less than NG3/RE BTWI don't think these zoomers understand just how hard of a flop this game is
Yakumo is terrible and not believable as a master ninja like Ryu. He looks and acts like an edgy Kpop reject. He has no masculinity and isn't intimidating.They could have added any generic new ninja to succeed Ryu and they screwed it up somehow. Why make him so young? Or make him look so young? Amateur hour. They could have just made his mentor the new ninja or something.
full cope mode activated
>>724644829STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT NINJA GAIDEN 4I T'S THE GREATEST GAME EVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>724644829Magnetism is good, the lock on mechanic is terrible and should not exist.
>>724644829>complaining about people complaining about people complainingtwitter zoomers ruined this board
How many people in these threads have actually beaten any action game in the highest difficulty?
>>724644723Nah bruh BREH BRO NG4 is le hekkin harderino, master ninja bro BRO master ninja updogs the HP and the damage breh this is hard this is good le good
>>724644648It never mattered who the protagonist is if the game isn't marketed properly, that is the most important point of selling literally anything. I really don't think a Ryu game would have done better.
>>724644997i beat dmc5 dmd on keyboard
>>724644997I always play on easy so I can get back to posting on /v/ faster.
>>724644247>DMC5 was a series revival that put its legacy front and centre (the main theme of the game is literally called Legacy), you have to play the first half as nero and the worst character in any action game V. this is after dmc4 was shit on for having too many Not Dante levels. 5 is much worse and genuinely doesn't work as a campaign. >all the beloved characters of the series, both major and small, appeared and got moments to shine. lady and trish do fucking nothing. trish is supposed to be dante's sidekick btw and lady is the best human devil hunter. at least they're naked. lucia isn't in it even though they retconned 2 to be before this. i don't think arkham is even mentioned which is fucking baffling when the main plot is about someone's dad erecting a giant demon structure in the middle of the city to kill everyone and gain power. kyrie does effectively nothing. they brought back the blue meme man but not credo. i think there's one indirect reference to patty. enzo is basically retconned out. >If it was the last ever DMC game, it's a game that leaves everything and every character in a place where fans would be happy with them.dante and vergil are literally in hell having accomplished nothing. there is no advancement on nero and kyrie's romance probably because dmc is gay now. nothing actually happens except in the one scene where dante tells nero who his dad is. it's dead air. >NG4 was a series revival that rejected the legacy of the series and did as much as possible to put it behind, timeskipping the series forward dmc5 is also a timeskip>and only featuring Ryu because they knew heads would roll if they didn't, but he is still barely in the gamemuch like dante in 5>It's an insult to people who love Ninja Gaidenjust as 5 is an insult to dmc fans mechanically, narratively, artistically and in basically every other way >and also a pitiful attempt to attract new fans with terrible uninspired designs.like V
>>724644997Almost 0. Every single time you bring up how low of a clear MN on ng2 has they all go into cope mode that they don't want to beat the game twice to unlock it.
>>724644997I beat Khazan on the hardest difficulty.
>>724644247The problem here is that no one fucking loves Ninja Gaiden, the only universally praised game came out twenty fucking years ago, they had no reason to cleave to the past and every reason to try something different
> How many people in these threads have actually beaten any action game in the highest difficulty?BROS he got us BREH BRO he GOT USLe hekkin harderino updog the hp dmageHE FUCKING GOT US
>>724644829he's stupid for using RE as the "before" examplehe is correct that X+A into flying swallow always magnetizes to the nearest enemy even if the game has to rotate ryu's body in unbelievable ways to do it
>>724644997I usually do, if I don't it's probably because it was locked on a first playthrough and I didn't like the game enough to replay it.Lower difficulties are boring. I'd rather deal with frustration from unbalanced parts than boredom the whole way through.
>>724606482Never put a woman in charge of a designing a male protagonist. She wanted to emphesise curtain aspects of Yakumo and went into retarded direction. Ninjas in NG never looked like short k-pop tryhards, even if they were young. Ninja Gaiden series has a ton of great ninja designs, just look at enemy ninjas or concept art. All of them are strong AND fast, because the speed comes from strength. The twink is small and fast, yet he unzips a long ass sword in his raven mode and tanks hits like a champ, that's sillyRyu is much better looking ninja, and I say it as a guy who doesn't like Ryu design. His best design, to me, is in Nioh 2 DLC. Also, the story is meh, I don't feel like killing all those Dragon Order guys is justifiable in the contex of the story
>>724610909>game doesnt work on my windows 10 freshly installed PC (LTSC however)https://archive.org/details/microsoft-extensions
>>724645323emphasise and certain* dammit.
BROS BREHS youtuber said DK64 is the worst collectaton platformer ever fucking EVER made, the backtracking is so bad bros
>>724645127That graph is wrong. Only ~785,000 scores are on the karma leaderboards for NGII. Less than 10,000 people actually beat Master Ninja.
>>724645635Maybe it's because NG2 is shit?
>>724645708No, it's because most people suck at games. Only the Master Ninja 10,000 should be allowed to have opinion on games.
>>724645708Nah, if it was "shit" but easy then it could still hit 3-15% clear rate then.It's the single most filtering game mode in history.
>>724645176Hell no. I love Ninja Gaiden. All the games. I even find things in Yaiba to enjoy, some of the levels had nice art direction, Yaiba was a fun rival character, Ryu is done faithfully and written respectfully even though he is the enemy, and it's always nice to see Momiji. That's more than what I can say about NG4.
I'm having fun so far, currently on chapter 8
>>724645895If you swap out 'Momiji' with 'Ayane' I could say all that about 4. I could say a lot more nice things about it actually.
>>724645782i bet bubsy 3d and superman 64 have a worse clear rate. why don't the ng2 posers challenge themselves with those pinnacles of difficulty?
>>724646253https://retroachievements.org/game/10310?&s=2https://retroachievements.org/game/13905?&s=11
mandem posted retrocheevos
>>724645127>20,000 unlocked Master Ninja>15,000 cleared Master NinjaMan that makes it sound like NG2 MN ain't shit. It's pretty safe to assume the average player felt satisfied after clearing the game once or twice and moved on to other titles.
>>724646204Saying Ayane is in NG4 is a stretch. She has under 60 seconds of screentime and two lines of dialogue, one of which is "Yes, yes, okay."
>>724646593thats not how it works bro, only 5% of people even were able to beat the game on warriorThey probably got their asses whooped so hard they never wanted to touch the game again more like.Dark Souls has a 25% clear rate but Warrior on NG2 is 5% LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never want to hear from you shitters again you all just got diaper rashes from how hard the game is
>>724640437I finished both NGs on the Xbox on master ninja and still NG4And Black 2 is absolute garbage since it uses Sigma as a base.
where can I find the original sigma 2 black mod? I'm so confused
>>724646608She shows up, flashes some T&A and fucks off. It's all I need from my NG girls honestly. Almost refreshing how shameless it was.
>>724646776https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/386
>>724633429same, I didn't notice it at all
>>724646742Then the chart should probably reflect that. Like I said the information it provides makes MN look bitch made.
Still find it odd how hard this game mindbroke some people here.Like the very idea that someone enjoys it just sends them into a frothing tard rage.
>>724647076Nothing about MN is remotely bitch made. Even if a person goes into their first MN run with knowledge of EVERY cheese strat they could, every chest location, and routed properly they can still get fucked easily. Even if they use the invincibility glitch they can STILL get hardstuck easily on bosses or Chapter 3 subway section.If they manage to survive all of that then they'll be lucky to not run out of all their money/resources by Chapter 14
>>724647120same thing happened with razor's edge and basically every action game since ng2it's just 2 guys who do nothing but bitch
>>724647120because the numbers are low, it's a shitty game might actually be worse than 3. I mean you can enjoy it but the rest of us don't like to eat shit
>>724647225It's random. No human being has cleared MN in one shot without dying. Even the speedrun autists who attempt to reduce the game to an optimized sequence of inputs have not figured out a way to do it without RNG deciding to kill them sometimes. Skill is secondary at best, and i-frame spam is just the best randomness mitigation strategy.
>>724647120With how mentally unwell this community seems to be I think it was an inevitability regardless of what the game actually looked like. I'm just glad the game turned out as good as it did.
>>724647416Why are you moving the goal post from a deathless MN run to just clearing it at all?
>>724647416Some chink beat NG2 MN without getting hit doe
>>724647637That was segmented/savescummed and stitch/edited together.No human has even beaten MN in one sitting without dying yet. World record speedrun currently has game overs let alone someone doing the whole thing no damage.
>>724647548I don't care about goal posts related to difficulty. I've played the game UT spamming like everyone else, and it was so fucking tedious I would never recommend anyone else do that. I'm saying the game is bad.
>>724647717>the game is bad because I'm shit at it and have to rely on UT spammingSkill issue.
>>724647716Has anyone made a TAS hitless MN run?
>>724647637He restarted every fight from checkpoint 50 times.
>>724647807I don't think you can TAS on 360 games there's no save state functionality yet even
>>724647416SHUT UP SHUT UPITS NOT A SHITTY GAMEITS LE HEKKIN VALERINOSTOP MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY IS BASED AROUND DOGSHIT GAMES WITH BAD BALANCENG4 POG POGP POG NOOOOOOONOOOOOOO
>>724646593It's definitely not that much of a step up from Mentor, if you can beat one you can beat the other. Not surprising they gave up on the Mentor difficulty.
>>724648382It's way worse than mentor, resident evil levels of resource management needed for the first run
>>724606482Trash game that crashed and failed.
>>724646608She's the one giving Ryu side missions which I thought was cool but he doesn't have many of them, kek. She's also present on NG+ with her kunai finding missions, another nice touch.But yeah it's a tiny role.
>>724647785Post your no deaths no UT MN run.
>>724606482Casualslop garbage
>>724648501It's okay man. You can play NG4 and blend in with the newfag crowd now. Pretend to throw rocks at the persecuted 2chads
>>724647498Is deflecting projectiles a parry or perfect guard? BR only?
>>724648432Didn't feel that way to me, but I only played Mentor once.
>>724648583Bloodraven / Gleam just block
>>724648674Ah, cool, I did it a couple of times in the middle of battles by accident, so I never knew exactly which input triggered it.
>>724648514>>724648451>>724648303>>724645240>>724644829Holy samefag
Stop the Yakumo vs Ryu war ... they're both cool ninjas
>>724643676In 4 it does. 4 in general seems way harder to get Master Ninja ranks in whereas a lot of MN rank in 2 were basically free.
>>724648746I had to experiment with it a bit but it's great when you get it down. It lets you run a more one sided offense on a lot of enemies since it doesn't actually use your meter. See >>724621971
>>724644997DMC4 and DMC5 on DMD, former kicked my ass so I vetoed against doing the older onesWorking through MN in NG4 thinking it wasn't going to be too bad but I'm getting my shit pushed in, thought of doing the other games but they all have too many "that one part" parts so I didn't
>>724644829He is completely right though. NG3 has noticeably more 'magnetism' than 4 with the dodge away slash on bosses.
>>724644997I have beaten Ninja Gaiden Black on Master Ninja.
>>724621324Why does Ryu look so faggy all the time? Is it the fuck me eyes?
The DMC games (specifically 3-5) are the only character action games where the hardest difficulty is the most fun. Maybe Bayo as well but I never got too deep into that
>>724644026It'll be a kusarigama, screenshot this.
>>724649139dmc3 dmd is dogshit enemies are way way too tanky
>>724649175Screenshotted :)
>>724645162Based.
>>724644026nunchucks
>>724645162uhh the newest one where the FOV is really close and UI is turned off right?
>>724649139I'd say God Hand as well once you get into the rhythm. The faster pace it offers compared to normal makes it hard to replay the game on normal mode
>>724649139I'm really enjoying NG4 MN so far, although I guess Deathwish MN would technically be the hardest and that seems incredibly unfun.
>>724649139wonderful 101 is much better on the hardest mode. maybe viewtiful joe as well but it's so fucked hard most people will bounce off.
Remember to wipe your bum and unlock your new weapon skills
>>724649410that big jackass stomped and killed me as soon as he came out the gate
>>724649483>wipe your bumthis is an NG thread bro we dont touch our asses that's homosexual shit
I liked Yakumo, he is pretty cool. I'm not super attached to Ryu. Tbh, I feel like the Ryu sections of the game were unecessary. They should have just had more Yakumo levels and showed everything as a cutscene at some point. >>724647120Shazamfags and tortanicfags do be like that
moments before disaster
>>724649582>muh shazam tortanicthe game flopped jim. It's DEAD
>>724649537They are such rape apes in this game, I'm happy I can atleast dump all my Bloodraven into them to get them out ASAP.
>>724649730Fuck off discord tranny
>>724649410People will look at 0:06 and say that this game's suck-to-target is actually not that bad and doesn't change the fundamentals of the seriesGarbage game
wtf are these goofy cyberpunk ninjas in ninja gaiden black
>>724649925>5. [PS5] Ninja Gaiden 4 – 11,973 / NEW
>>724649981That's the rapier weapon, closing distance is what it does best.
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>>724649981do the dabilahro forward X, sweetie
Wow, there must be like less than what 150-200 Master Ninja players in the world for NG4. This entire franchise is dead and gone
>>724649321kino
>>724649582They really did great with him, he's a fun addition to the world. Can't wait to see where they take him for the DLC.
>>724649321THE DARK DRAGON IS MINE
Yakumo fags have to be literally 12.
Finally beat chapter 11 of NG2 on mentor, after days.
I am playing soulstice right now, will start NG4 playthrough next monday
>>724651420thanks for letting me know
>>724649139>The DMC games (specifically 3-5) are the only character action games where the hardest difficulty is the most fun.dude it's horrible, they just give enemies a billion HP and hyper armorMaster Ninja in NG1 and 2 is way better, Bayo too
Why does everyone hate Yakumo? All the zoomer girls think he's cute. Is it just bitter/jealous mean in their 20s and 30s?
>>724645782>It's the single most filtering game mode in history.dodonpachi dai ou jou death label has been cleared by less than 5 people
>>724649981each game can have its own fundamentals, it's not a concept you can universally apply to everything you dislike to sound smartalso, NG didn't have any emphasis on spacing post NGB
>>724651629I'm seeing the sentiment around him change so heavily, pretty much the only people left are the people who decided they were going to hate him the moment they saw him and nothing would change their mind. It is funny to see the Ryu ride or die types get clowned on for shitting on him though.
>>724651762>NG didn't have any emphasis on spacing post NGByeah man sure whatever you say
>>724651809if you think non stop iframe chaining, forward x, and FS spam of ng2 equates to a deep spacing game I am sorry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBim1rZLfXI
>>724651762It's a retarded idea to begin with, not a conclusion people reached on their own by playing or even analyzing gameplay, they're just parroting what someone on twitter said because they aren't capable of critically thinking about things for themselves. Talking to them is useless unless you go make a twitter account yourself.
>>724649139More often than not this is a sign of the others being too easy rather than the hardest one being brilliantly designed.Critical in KH II is the most fun by a mile, infinitely better than all the others and the game truly shines in it. But the others are worthless trash I wouldn't recommend anyone to play on.
>>724652219NGB literally has all of those, you're a retard
>>724652219every iframe option requires actual spacing to use brotheryou just don't press the iframe button
Making OTs teleport to the target without a hitbox was a retarded change in fairness.
>>724652541I know you didn't play the games, but you didn't have to make it this obvious>>724652574dash+wind run doesn't need spacing, and dash+wind run+wind path/gt doesn't require some insane spacing skills because the enemies are always everywhere, sometimes you might whiff if you don't look at the screen, but you have to be seriously far away from everyone for that to happen
Check out these fundamentals, bro, my footsies are on another level.
>>724652850>sometimes you might whiff if you don't look at the screen, but you have to be seriously far away from everyone for that to happenso in other words, spacing matters, thanks for confirming it
>>724651298Which weapon? And good job.
It's like I'm playing Street Fighter 2(Ninja Gaiden 2 is awesome and plays like nothing else in the industry, incredible game, but the eceleb worshipping fans it has are delusional)
>>724652850NGB is dogshit and if you play it you're an old boomer that needs to take their metamucil
>>724606950The way I understood it is that his Ninjutsu interacts with certain weapons to unlock a hidden potential. Whether he controls how that potential manifests, etc isn't made clear, but they do specify that it's unique that the Cursed weapons are able to work with his ninjutsu. Considering he started with only one weapon, I have to assume normally weapons that work with it are rare, he's just coming across weapons powerful enough to seal the Dark Dragon in this quest. I'm more curious (and slightly annoyed) as to why the weapons disappear when not in use. He has a Vajra style thing on his lower back which seems to be where he "draws" them from, and I get that he can use his blood to transform weapons using his Ninjutsu, but you'd think their base forms would still need to, like, physically exist. I like seeing the weapons on characters so this kind of niggles me.
I swear there is a single autist with a rageboner in every single NG thread.
>>724652935Again, actually play the games and see what actually happens in there and try to think what the game's core dynamic is instead of repeating internet talking points>>724652858this guy just completely neutral skips with claws FS, this isn't a spacing heavy game
>>724652987>air string into on landing running Y techshit, remember when ninja gaiden had actual depth like that? good times
>>724651629He's fun to play so I like him, pretty simple.
>>724653213NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>724652995kino photo
>>724652858i dont understand why ninja gayden fanboys compare these games to fighting gamesif you want spacing and neutral so much just play a fighting game
>>724653145brother you said those words, not mespacing matters, you said it yourself even if you didn't mean tobetter luck next time
>kino photo
>>724651629>All the zoomer girlsZoomer girls didn't buy this shit senpai.
>>724653213Based
https://youtube.com/shorts/IajoVERLeGo?si=V59xk4rPRng9HF8w
>>724653145Don't forget the "suck to target" making him do a 180 mid air at the start. The people complaining about it must love Sigma 2 and kicking past the enemy.
>>724653276Oh well, by your logic even NG4 is a spacing based game because it is possible to whiff there too
>>724644026I am going to make a wild guess and say the base for is an Axe.
Dodge Offset should be a Yakumo only thing.
>>724653257Fucking thank you. None of the game focus heavily on spacing, anyone who thinks they do is trying too hard to make the games sound deeper than they are. I've beaten NG1 and 2 on MN (couldn't stomach NG3) and on higher difficulties, the focus is on understanding your defensive options and i-frame opportunities, so you can be aggressive while knowing how to still cause damage. NG2 MNM especially is about spending 90% of your gameplay in i-frames using OTs, Guillotine Throws, Ninpo, UTs, etc. The games give you HEAVY tracking and huge hitboxes on most of your moves so spacing is generally irrelevant -- Ryu will try and find an enemy to hit if you point him in the general direction of one and hit Y, or use Wind Run, etc. >>724644191Considering the Ninja Tools' Bloodraven weapon is "Fucking mech arms," I don't know if there needs to be a strong correlation.
>>724652935just as it does in ng4
>>724653801*be aggressive while knowing how to still AVOID damageBrain no work.
>>724653637nah, can't be when a single button in an entire full string has the character sliding 15 feet forward like he's on ice skatesyou can literally close your eyes and just press buttons like that
>>724653171are you weapon switch offsetting into gleam cancel strings lil bro?
>>724654005the stages are huge, it's definitely possible to whiff
>>724654005Nah, enemies will backstep and kill you even on normal difficulty.
>>724654005imagine if they did this amazing thing where the arenas are more than 15 feet wideoh, they did. just like ng2 has arenas too wide to wind run fs across
>>724653793To me at least it effectively is. Ryu can't cancel into dodge as quickly as Yakumo, so it makes it really clunky to use for combos with him. The only use are the extra offset properties like parry offset or OT offset and those are really fun and shouldn't be removed.If you look at the video example for dodge offset with Ryu it even shows him cancelling a string into dodge WAY earlier than you yourself can, so I imagine during balancing the game that they decided that Ryu's dodge offset shouldn't be as prevalent.
one of the strats in nbg to kill an enemy is wind path into whiff forward x, y into izunayou guys are so pretentious for saying those games were ever about spacing
>>724654281>you guys are so pretentiousevery hack n slash fan is a pretentious bastardjust look at that pretentious name CAGCharacter Action Game
>>724639372Don't forget the Beck skin for the latter. Twice the curse for two dead games.
>>724654137Subtle brilliance.
>>724654137The irony is that Don was bullying whatshisname because he felt insecure.
gonna try the emulator guide the other anon posted wish me luck brosSigma 2 Black is great but OG is still a bit better
>>724654538I think that's the joke.
>>724652975I kind of alternated between dragon sword, lunar, tonfas, and talons towards the very end. Most of the struggle for me was towards the end of the level, in the area with the dogs, after which you fight a hoard of explosive grab talon ninjas. I primarilly used the lunar staff for the fiend dogs, with a lot of 360 UTs. You can get through it without using the UTs but it's a lot more efficient that way. I used talons for the talon ninjas.Next up, dual armadillo fight!
>>724654458>CAGDon't listen to anyone who uses that unironically.
>>724654174>imagine if they did this amazing thing where the arenas are more than 15 feet wideyou say that as if that makes things any betterthis suck-to-target talk is funny as fuck because you people will go "there's no suck to target --> okay, there might be, but it's not that bad --> okay, well, the other games had tracking and flying swallow! that's the same thing, right? (it's not) --> okay, the suck to target IS pretty bad, but have you considered this other thing?" the game is fundamentally poorly designed, you understand it but don't want to admit itjust complete game design failure in every way
>>724654738You are pretending I said words I never did just to make your argument sound Sad
>>724654738I know you aren't too bright but you realize you're talking to multiple people right?
FUARK I'M GONNA CAG, I'M CAAAAAAGGGGIIIINNGGG
niggas out here saying ninja gaiden has footsies and spaciesoh my days go touch a fighting game
>>724654964spacies mom has got it going on
>>724644997None. Even the community heads are complete dogshit.
>>724606482>We could have gotten a Momiji spin-off based on her sigma 2 move set>Instead we get Platinum Gaiden with some edgelord OCWhy is everything so gay and lame
>>724654695Someday...
>>724655249>Instead we get kinoOoooh noooo
>>724655249Momiji spinoff needs to be sold on DLsite only.
>oh my days
>>724655249As faggy as Yakumo is, I don't want another franchise to lose a male protagonist in favor of a female one.It's happening in everything and it's getting boring, no matter how hot the girl is.
Gonna J-Action up my CAG this weekend.
dont care, ng2 clears
>>724655696Based
>>724655801Nah
>magnetismbad>lack of magnetismalso badWhat do you niggas want?
>>724655951flop game, 20k copies sold lmaoo
>>724656025
>>724656049>Shitters = filteredTruly GOTY, can't wait for the DLC.
>>724656193>DLCLOL they’re not gonna drop anything now that it hasn’t sold shit
>>724656320>DenialOof... Hard coping... The meltdown is going to last at least a couple of months.
>>724656186That's not tracking, that's sticking to the target after connection. Completely different thing.
>>724655493>>724655372Very homosexual posts.
>>724656025HOLY KINOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>724648941Disingenous when it's only that attack in 3, and every attack in 4 has magnetism
>>724656775Nope.
>>724656775Wrong
>>724655801Only people who have never played NG2 talk about NG2's moveset, I liked mixing it up for fun and variety but like 70% of combo strings are redundant or unusable. The movelist is also deceptively long, it just treats one extra input to XYXXXX as being a new combo
>>724655876contemplate the aroma
>>724654738>there's no suck to target --> okay, there might be,there isn't, you hypocritical manchild, there's forward advancing attacks just like every other game in the series. they can whiff because they don't magnetize you to the target, just like every other game in the series. people bitch that sigma 2 doesn't have as much tracking as ng2, now you're pretending ng2 has none? what happens in ng2 when you input wind run and the closest enemy is not directly in front of ryu? what happens if you press X and the enemy is at an angle? OT? flying swallow? forward X?
>>724656025Fucking kino. NGfags have it so good with a series with not a single bad mainline game (after RE fixed 3) and instead of celebrating that and how different each game is, they just shit on each other all day.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/508809-ninja-gaiden-4/81062883Funny how on gamefaqs they know this shit is a bomb it's only the children on here huffing and puffing on copium
>>724656497What about forward Y on claws? It's literally tracking the nearest oponent for a guaranteed delimb. Baby mode game Sigma is so much better it's over.
1080p max in the emulator, this game would look so good at 4K. Can't wait for the native PC version.
>>724657074???There's no such thing as forward y lmao, you have to point it in any direction manually wtf are you goombas talking about. That move is broken because it's a guaranteed delimb not because it homes enemies
>>724656995Most people still hate 3, RE or not.
>>724656547>CAG selling less than soulslopWow, it's like that thing everyone knows already
>>724657016No one is saying the game is doing well commercially.That doesn't stop people from liking and enjoying the game.
oh nononono gotta get used to trigger block again
>>724656808>>724656859Nice counter arguments, faggots
>No one is saying the game is doing well commercially.https://www.reddit.com/r/ninjagaiden/comments/1of4w66/seems_like_ng4_is_selling_good_in_japan/NG is a cult at this point
>>724657230there are 6 diff button schemes
>>724657308>now he's posting reddit out of nowhereWay to move the goalposts faggot
>gamefagsThat place these days is full of schizos with hateboners for specific games and sales obsessed shitposters. It's just as bad as /v/ and I bet all the basket cases post on both.
>>724657203most people who finished it will say it has very good combat. the walk and talks are obviously shit but those are seconds of stupid inbetween hours of action."criticism" of the actual combat is usually "why can't i loop essence techniques the entire game" rather than any legitimate flaw
>>724657316I'm talking about OG II, all of them have block on a trigger, sadly. Though I can just remap my controller with a new profile, gonna do that.
>>724657308This nigga is linking to reddit
>>724657203>Most peopleDidn't play it and/or parrot shit they heard
>>724656915>there's forward advancing attacks just like every other game in the seriesyeah I remember all those times in black or 2 where pressing exaclty one button input had ryu slide around 15 feet to hit the enemy this is all just pointless semantics really. the problem is that having the character slide around to hit the enemies is awful design. doesn't matter what it's called.the rest of your retarded post is exactly my point right after, down to the flying swallow comparisonshit's really funny
>>724657365most people in this thread are users from that subreddit
>>724606482Generic and unoriginal character. Boring design, boring personality, boring fighting style and being the MC instead of Ryu is a bad move.
>>724657441>the problem is that having the character slide around to hit the enemies is awful design.so ng2 has awful design>exactly my point right afterjust stating that your argument is retarded with a point-by-point refutation of everything you're saying is not "beating them to the punch," it's just admitting that your beliefs are stupid
>>724657158literally everyone calls them forward + button lil bro... it means forward towards the enemy
>>724657441>Moving 10 feet is A-okay>Moving 15 feet is bad designYou're not actually making any point here, NG4 is faster, the spaces you fight in are larger, enemies have more tools to get to and away from you. The combat system is built and balanced around that.
Played 3 minutes of the ninja box weapon and I can already tell it's the most broken weapon in the game.
>audio cutoff in the main menushit
>>724606482Played it. Right now it's the GOTY. As far as action games go it's easily A-tier. Maybe it will even be S-tier depending on what they add.Really surprising this came from Platinum of all developers after all these years.
>>724657634Little bit, yeah.
>>724657634ballerina yakumo my beloved
>>724657203Because RE exposed the so called "hardcore" vanilla 2 fags.
>>724657574>so ng2 has awful designcan't think of anything in ng2 anywhere near as awful as this >>724649410 but sure man, if that's what helps you sleep at night>>724657608again, same thing I said earlier. you are acknowledging that the suck to target in ng4 is awful, but the only thing you can say is "have you considered that arenas are larger?" as if that suddenly fixes the fundamental issues with the combat itselfyou people are so predictable I'm assuming you're all reading off the same script
>>724658154>you are acknowledging that the suck to target in ng4 is awfulI didn't say that at all. You need to put words in my mouth because you're losing. You're a loser.
>>724657634Spin 2 win, buddy
bros I think I'm getting too old, I'm getting fucking wrecked on normal when I beat the other NG games on hard back in the day
>>724658313hard isn't that much harder than normal in ngb if it makes you feel better
>>724658154>admits ng2 has suck to target>"b-b-but it doesn't move as far!">but the arenas are smalleras if that suddenly fixes the fundamental issues with the combat itselfyou people are so predictable I'm assuming you're all reading off the same script
>>724658248you said it right there buddy>>>Moving 15 feet is bad designthat is you right there acknowledging that the suck to target is present, and coming up with all sorts of copes to defend it right after
>>724655249Some of Momiji's outfits are pretty slutty
>>724639972>DMC players are more akin to dancers and performers than gamerswhat does this even mean
>>724658154>can't think of anything in ng2 anywhere near as awful as this>he doesn't remember Heart of Darkness>he doesn't remember the death worm larva encountersYou know I'm starting to think you guys never actually played 2.
>>724658438>>admits ng2 has suck to targetit doesn't though. can you post a single example where pressing a single button in ng2 has ryu sliding around like in that ng4 webm? I'll wait
>>724658313The game is genuinely pretty tough, and having played the previous games will mess with some of your muscle memory. It'll click though, just give it some time. Your moveset opening up is a big part of it too. Soon enough you'll think hard is a touch too easy.
>>724658570he means they are prostitutes and pole dancers
>>724658684hot
>>724658313https://youtu.be/jJOd-UQRkwU?si=RLqVL9NgFtYD1WHe
>nobody:>no one:>literally no one:>VANILLA 2 FAGS RUIN EVERYTHING! EVERYTHINGcope>>724658610All of those were kino thoughbeit
>>724658480That was said in my greentext, paraphrasing you. But you already know that, don't play stupid now.
Is blocking more important in 4 than the other NG games?
>>724659152No. Blocking is like the crux of the entire series
>>724640062>>724640352Neat, I wasn't expecting to be.But I doubt that's usually by platinum's choice, it's probably because their publisher never asks them to make DLC.
I can't stop using the vault moves, its so much fun holy fuck. Doing the vaulting sweep attack into a hammer launch is super fun.
>>724659152I'd say it's about the same level of importance here, maybe ever so slightly less so since you have really powerful defensive tools, but none of them are as reliable as a good guard to reassess your situation.
>>724656612Not this time because ng4 flopped. Now no one gets to have fun, ever. Good ending ill take a functional game over shitvanila2, black is the best (for 1 and 2)
xenia didn't run well enough on my PC and the audio stuff was really annoying, I'll stick to Sigma 2 Black
>>724659363I'm having fun tho. Guess it's my win.
>>724659363I had a stroke reading this thanks
>>724659363This anon had a stroke
>>724659439For vanilla 2 your options are either shell out $70 for a used xbox one x or wait a couple years for the decompile to come out
>>724658684Explains why they're so gay.
>>724658630>>724652858Right at the start, he kicks, does a magic 180 because of suck to target, and then starts sliding around teleporting.
>>724659586>shitnilla 2
>>724659586Used Xbox One X seems to be around $350 over here. Yeah, I'll wait, kek.
>>724659601I am not
>>724659152A little less because you have a lot more defensive counter options, but it ends up making people forget about blocking and underestimating how good it is again.
>>724621324he's so sex
>>724659728Better than Metamucil black
nigger said >shitnilla 2good becaue his computer cant run black kek
>>724659824Post bussy and prove it then. If it's not blown out from overuse I'll believe you.
>>724657562Maybe cause you keep posting it
>>724660095you should use internet less bro
>>724606482Ravencel really grew on me, he's quite the lad
The bloodbath kills are funny, I like popping those turtle automatons like balloons with the drill rush
I'm Yakumo
