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Who's your favorite in Chrono Ark?
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>>724615592
Pressel
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>>724615592
Charon best girl
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Chainsaw girl for carrying me through runs.
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Mechanically I like Momori's gimmick of stocking damage and choosing when to eat it a lot.
But Azar's Onaho- er, I mean Lucy is objectively best girl. Followed by Phoenix.
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>>724615592
For me, it's Sizz (with big tits)
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>>724615592
momori for the memes, but i'm too retarded to play her, so chainsaw for gameplay.
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>>724621329
I genuinely do not understand how to use Miss Chainsaw but Momori is like the most natural thing in the world to use for me
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>>724615592
momori is actually mechanically fun
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lucy is the best girl and i'm proud of her
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I like how this game has a party of characters and each one brings a few cards to your deck. This is way better than other deckbuilders ive played i wish standard rpgs had this system.
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>>724621918
So something like baten kaitos?
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>>724621918
it's really good
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I'm an a20 veteran in STS but I still have absolutely no idea how to even start making this game make sense
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>>724621582
Miss chain gets extra effects and healinggauge protection for 2 turns if you play one of her skills.
Shes more of a versatile tank as her cards that have deaths door allow you to never need to heal her much with good timing.
Her skills focus on 3 different means of damage - counterattacking, paindots or armor reduction which is very useful for bosses and tank enemies as they have tons of armor.

So she usually ethier gets to babysit burn charon+joey, counterattackspam with lian+sizz or work with her crush Hein. Her healingprotection means hein can bloodreflex her constantly and get absurd damage boosts
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>>724617323
This. Getting a clutch home run to save the day is the best.
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So is selene+helia masturbation or selfcest

Selenelion is easily one of the coolest attacks in the game shame you need to get lucky with 2 rares to get it
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>>724623631
Yes.
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>>724621918
Morimens does that too and I also like how it works.
Downside is that Morimens it is a gacha and some of the translation is still machine translated but not to bad any more. The upside is that they are doing a proper translation, it's not too bad as far as gachas go, and it gets balls to the wall difficult without needing to be a whale to get anywhere.
I would never recomend it over Chrono Ark because Chrono ark is a real game, but it is decent if you want more of something kind of similar.
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this guy right here
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>>724623227
The game is a dps race due to blackfog and most bosses having antiattrition mechanics.
There are 3 relics that can make you immune to the fog however so you can do a slower playstyle if you have all three.

Around 4-5 healing and the rest attacks or cc
You want some way to hit backline be it aoe, ignoretaunt or give/remove taunt

You want enough mana to play 1 fixed skill + most of your hand.
DONT spam swiftness skills yes they are nice but too many is a total noobtrap that will make every enemy hit you all at once.
You need more lucy cards than you think.
And lastly only your dps carry should be lvl4 or higher.

Any more questions?
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>>724623227
there is a guide that ranks each ability per character that is pretty straightforward as a starting point. you basically want to have a few abilities per character and get multiple copies of those and typically never get more cards than the minimum. Use your fixed skills
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>>724615592
I like Silverstein!
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How we feeling about deception engine bros. Kinda reminds me of the leap from ruina to limbus presentation wise to me
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this game has fantastic writing, the subtle character stuff they dont rub in your face overtly but requires thinking to get the psychology is great
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>>724623763
For a gacha it has quite interesting ideas like the save bank system, but unfortunately it's gacha and gachas become worse as time goes on.

>>724625142
Is there early access or something?
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>>724624034
what's black fog?
I just fought the stage 1 boss and the game gave me the option to lose (lol?), but it was almost dead and I managed to kill her anyway. It was the one that gives you curses every round. I don't think i've seen any black fog though. I looted a relic that lets you heal the heal bar when the fog hits but I don't think it has happened yet.
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>>724625410
>Is there early access or something?
Nothing released yet besides some very early videos of fights.
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>>724625142
I'm feeling rather hopeful.
Guess it could turn out all kinds of way really, but with Chrono Ark I've grown to trust the devs.
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bros this cheating tank just hit me for 40 damage as soon as the battle started
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>>724625142
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>>724626685
the entire point of this fight is that it nukes your party to negative health and you gotta heal up or beat it in X turns while it does absolutely nothing.
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>>724626757
And it also has a buff where it can't get damaged if you have negative health.
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>>724626757
oh yeah it was incredibly easy... The first boss was harder. Who balanced this?
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>>724625142
Im cautiously optimistic as they are going for a more permametaprogression roguelite rpg than a run based roguelike, but il be happy if they add a run mode later on
>>724625613
So theres a little cloud icon, if the turn timer reaches it, the black fog rolls in.
The music distorts, enemies get a rng speed buff, your party takes damage each turn and cant heal past the healing gauge while in the fog
>>724626876
only in expert mode, anon is a new player so he beginning in normal
>>724625395
Its the anotherdangan fangame writer
>>724627057
That section has the easiest bosses. They made an event that makes them much harder though for an extra reward by slowing you down and healing them.
Also the parade tank is more of a pain in the ass in expertmode because it becomes immune to partymembers damage while they are on deaths door.
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is getting more people always a good idea? Right now I don't think I need any of these, and the extra tank guy would make countering with miss chain harder?
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>>724627316
its more hitpoints and important for some boss mechanics, but the 4th character is kind of gimped most runs and so you select for things like passive or a good easy to get skill.
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>>724627316
Doing runs with fewer party members has its pros and cons
Your mana is hardcapped unless you have 4 and thats one less person who can take damage which matters for some lategame boss mechanics.
If you're worried about deck clogging, id recommend ironheart. He has a ton of Once skills that vanish for the rest of the fight once played, a solid passive and like miss chain some of his skills are Innate which means they can be used as a fxed skill alongside other parties fixed skills. So by the time youve shuffled once, your deck is basically your original trios
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>>724627316
Ironheart is always a great 4th if you focus on his Once skills
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>>724627316
Ironheart has a 0 cost skill that draws a card, so you can't brick yourself with that
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>>724627316
You ALWAYS want a full party
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>>724615592
Momori deserves spanking
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CZN sucks dick (mostly due to its GaaS elements, the gameplay itself it's alright) but at least it brought Chrono Ark threads back. Can't wait for Deception Engine.
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>>724615592
Difficult to say favourite. Everyone has a different way to play and quite a few chars can be busted carries if specialized.
Charon and Joey see themselves in my party a lot. I forget that purple-haired dom's name, but she's probably the best healer and if you build around her... special move (It's been quite a while since I played!) she does a surprisingly large amount of damage with it.

Azar can be stupidly busted with little effort. I wish Silverstein and N....the pschologist gambler guy, I forget his name, were stronger than they are. Silverstein is great but not exceptional and the psych is plain average

Niche builds were the most fun to experiment with though
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>>724629427
I still lurk CZN threads because someone almost always brings up chrono ark
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uh I just realized.. do you need to put relics in the relic display stand to use them? hahaaa
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>>724630271
yes
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For me it's the Charon/Huz/Momori/Hein team.
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>>724615592
Too many dudes on the roster. I have to recruit 2 guys to survive at campfires. But I like the Lucy/Nun/Chainsaw Girl team.

>>724629427
I reinstalled Bluestacks for it and it wasn't worth it
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>>724615592
Pressel+Ironheart were such a power combo that I felt like I was gimping myself without them.
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I did it bros.. I'm a god gamer...
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>>724629725
Silverstein is pretty solid you just build around ethier quickfire+aimstraight+doubletap/closequarter or you build around spamming grapeshotblast.
Snipe is alright as a crit tool but its inferior to trisha
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as someone who played this after it came out of early access, reading 4 years of patch notes was fascinating
apparently at some point the plot was going to be a killing game? understandable considering the writer but I'm glad they didn't go that route
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>>724629725
Oh and narhan is disgusting with joey they have maxhealth boosters that skyrocket narharns damage. He is a bit equipment dependant though.
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>>724631156
It's not gacha, you don't have to hate the males
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>>724621582
Miss chain is the easiest character to use in the game. You get the the skill shown in >>724619878 and put it as innate. Then you stack armor and health up equip on her. You now have a tank with +20% hp, eternal healing gauge protection, Increased aggro, and permanent survive at 1 hp buff. She soaks all the damage the game can throw at you easily. She then supports with applying DoTs and she even has a self heal attack with chain heal and a rare that heals the rest of the team for half her health. I won a meme run against the true final boss where miss chain was my only healer because I let my other healer die early on purpose just to test how OP miss chain was.
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>>724633971
blonde girls are always the best how is it possible
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>>724634178
we know, lucy
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>>724615592
sizz a cute
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This game would be a 10/10 if the MC was a male the same age as the other characters.
Don't hate Lucy but her being a little girl that everyone treats as a child is weird in a game with a friendship mechanic. You should be able to date the girls instead.
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>>724621918
>This is way better than other deckbuilders ive played i wish standard rpgs had this system
play library of ruina
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>>724623227
Purple debuffs are DoTs
Red debuffs are stat modifiers (weaken, vuln, etc.)
Yellow debuffs are stuns/taunts/misc

All normal heal has some percentage healing gauge restore on damage healed past the limit (33% iirc?). So if your character is at 12/24 with no green bar and receives a 9 heal it goes to 15/24. If it is 12/24 with all green bar and receives a 9 heal it goes to 21/24. If it is like 9/24 with green bar up to 12/24 a 9 heal takes you to 14/24 (3 to hit 12 then .33(6)=2).
Chain heal applies heal over max limit to other characters in the party and keeps cascading but cannot overheal. You'll never restore any missing gauge with chain heal, it only works on green gauge. Basically chain heal = green gauge.
Overheal flat out restores hp AND gauge both. A -21/24 hp character with 9/24 healing gauge overhealed by 12 (healing potion) goes to -9/24 hp but their healing gauge goes to 21/24

The soulstone? (Level up currency) curve is intuitive. You don't need to level any character past level 4 but you will inevitably get enough currency to pick a character or 2 to exceed 4. I usually end with 7 mana on Lucy. It does depend on your comp.
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>>724634585
Sizz is a cute washed up manager.
Making her main dps is hilerious
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>>724624034
>>724624837
>>724634956
The worst problem was accepting the fact that you don't know enemies' intentions in this game. But I just won that first run. So I guess I just need to let go.
Miss chain with taunt is probably busted as someone said.
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>get this game randomly in a cardbuilder roguelike bundle
>no idea what is it
>leave it for a year and play it on a whim
>fucking great, recommend it on the 4chins
>eventually git gud and do the Lucy now has her father and school in matrix ending
>the REAL ending is locked until end of EA
>ok, leave it for later
>now the game released and people here actually talk about it
Damn, I guess I need to get back and do it for real now
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>>724634956
and chain heal is gay
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>>724635227
The final ending and fight is pure Kino.
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Charon is my wife
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I haven't played since the casino update, but Leryn best girl
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I still don't get how to beat the beach boss. feels like there's something mistranslated about how the fire pillar works.
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>>724625142
>limbus
you're gonna jinx it, feels like devs like this are always one step away from just making their next work a gacha
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>>724615592
Momori is definitely a masterpiece of game design.
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>>724635170
Knowing intention is Narhan's thing
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>>724627316
Despite being armored head to toe Ironheart isn't explicitly a taunt/soak tank.
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>>724626696
Is that Lucy??
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>>724633392
Granted that I never played the early beta. But the impression I'm getting is that we got the superior/improved narrative in the end with the 1.0 and onwards.
But. The real-life segment(s) that were cut do look enticing.
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>roguelite with an actual focus on the story
>story is pretty good
>take a long break from the game because thats what i do with every roguelite
>forgot everything about the story
they really should've stuck with making the story a separate VN mode
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what's this about secret walls and secret tiles? Do people use these scrolls randomly to find secret areas?
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>>724639902
There was a trick to detecting hidden walls, but I forgot and it probably was changed after EA
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>>724639902
>Do people use these scrolls randomly to find secret areas?
Yes.
I mean preferably I try to use them when I've also got cursed equipment in order to get multiple benefits out of it.

But secret tiles, unless I'm misremembering, almost always have open spaces both front and back, so that you can walk through them after having exposed the secret. So I don't think they're maybe ever on the actual edges of the maps? So basically, if you find an add, single tile protrusion in the map, it's likely a secret.

>>724640334
Was there some trick beyond the pattern recognition I'm describing above?
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>>724639902
this worked like 50% of the time when i was going full autismo on it last year.
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>>724615592
For me it's the run killer prodigy.
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>>724620670
>tfw when you will never train lucy through multiple loops to make her cum on command
why even live
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>>724615592
the smelly NEET.
I had to uninstall the game AGAIN after spending 20 hours a week just having fun
Also:
>Johan
>done dirty
>DLC releases, they'll redeem him for sure now
>done dirty AGAIN
Why do the devs hate him so much lmao
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>>724615592
cant remember but definitely not that one or the glasses guy
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>>724640535
I think it was something like being able to see past fight tiles, which normally block vision
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>>724639902
Teleport scrolls can also reveal the secret area if you land next to it.
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>>724642993
There's nothing the devs could do for Johan, he was made with a terminal lack of Alice. Incurable, I'm afraid.
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>>724643624
>he was made with a terminal lack of Alice. Incurable, I'm afraid
How grim.
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>played for 20 hours
>still haven't won a single run
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>>724644494
>miss card draw relics
>lose run
wow
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>>724644494
I just Azar'd to win early on. Illusion Sword in general is stupid on most shit.
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>>724642993
It genuinely feels like the writers hate him, every character has an ending that ranges from happy to bittersweet but he just gets cucked and becomes a crazed murderer. What were they thinking?
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>>724645184
Lucy draw exists. Do not ignore it. Card draw problems are your own fault.
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>>724648270
It's been so long since I played the game that I can't remember if I always picked one or two of her cards.
But I remember that it made a massive difference, and going without Lucy's cards at all was suffering nine times out of ten.
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Is it a good plan to put some skill you never intend to use as the fixed skill so you never waste time drawing it and don't have to pay +1 mana to use a better skill? At least at the start of the run until you get more mana
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>>724649527
I did that a lot of the time to start, until I got a card that genuinely benefits from being a fixed skill.
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>>724615592
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How many points should I put into mana/draw? How much should I invest in leveling my dudes (beyond the obligatory level 2 for the skill)? As a new player.
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The camp convos are mega soulful.
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>>724651561
I usually get mana up to 7, party members to lvl 3/4 and put the rest in draw. It depends on your comp though, if you're playing with a lot of high mana cards it can be worth it to pump mana higher, and if you're playing with a lot of cheap crappy cards you'll need more draw.
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i have no problem clearing regular runs but can't beat azar
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>>724652941
Lower the difficulty
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>>724653180
never
don't do it
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god i fucking love lian
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>>724651561
Level 2 for your first 3 party members
Mana to 4
Either mana to 5 or draw in either order depending



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