>how to craft a weapon Duet Night Abyss:>farm for the blueprint>it's RNG so you'll be repeating missions until you get lucky>farm for gold>farm for gold coins>farm for materials via RNG too>forge materials into parts>forging takes 10-30 minutes>you have a item to speed up forging>once you have every components to craft the weapon>you wait 3 hours to complete crafting>spend several hours farming and you have to wait a few more hours to get the weapon>whoops you're out of toy hammers gotta pay up for more, gweilo!
that just sounds like warframe
>>724621686 The problem with this and The First Descendant is that they copy Warframe’s homework without stealing the Crux of what holds the shitshow together, which is the weird stilted business model DE has.
>>724621686Thats exactly how it is in warframe, first descendant and destiny yeah.
>boot up game>don't instantly wingod fuckin' dammit, every fuckin' time
Would be tolerable if it has a Sweep function or something: auto complete areas I've already cleared.
If you can trade for its plat equivalent then it's not a big dealI was making so much god damn money in Warframe that I would just rush everything
>>724621686ban this faggot troon shill now
>>724621686>play game based around grinding>complain that you have to grindwhy do faggots keep playing games in genres they don't like and then complaining about it as if it's bad design? It's like complaining that a CRPG has skill checks
>>724621980>I don't want to play the gameor>I want the game to play itselfkys
>>724621686Better than wuwa>roll for weapon>don't get it>4* are complete dogshit lmao
>>724621986 Most Warframe clones skip adding trading and focus on monetizing closer to a how Fortnite is. Battle passes ect. The First Descendant is a perfect example game for “Company is literally too greedy to avoid fucking up cloning a competitors money printing machine”
>>724622234nah they are too stupid to creat an economy. There is so much more to that than just letting players trade with paid currency
This would've been fine if they remove the pointless crafting and forging timers.
>i want thing now! now now now! give me thing now!Yet another reason to hate this retarded tripfag.
>>724621686Yeah I love it. I can play the video game. So many goals and stuff to do with minimal gating.
>>724621686Why do you gacha niggers complain about "time wasting" grind when all you do is hoard summon currency for literally months or years waiting for one character you like so you can finally play the game while spending 99% of your time shit posting on discord and vg? Do you like video games or not?
I'm trying it now. The movement tech is there I guess but it feels so floaty and weightless it ends up feeling weird and unsatisfying.
>>724623234The endless horde mode style game modes are fun, and might be fun-er in higher difficulty with friends/human players.
I'll focus on demon wedges next and probably farm for new characters because I think they're easier for farm.
>>724621686atleast you can afk farm everything with rebecca
I feel sorry for you guys that these thread are 90% tripfag
>>724621686But enough about Warframe,
>>724627116This tranny kills the hype. Xe ready said his intentions was to latch onto Arknights Endfield and Ananta too because he feels those games might be popular so be wants wuthering waves to be associated with those (sometimes with zzz too but he insults zzz when he removes his trip)Seriously, I pity the anons, I was looking for Ananta and AE too but this tranny trip will kill the threads
>>724627116You don't say>>724627657>>724627807>>724627882
>>724621686I remember in Warframe when you had to spend half an hour on a defense mission in order to roll the dice for a bp. I don't know how it's now but I don't miss those days
>>724628189DNA has it too but you can afk solo and clear them. Comfy.
>>724629690no. In wf you could only get some relics on a specific wave. Say a defense wave takes 10 minutes and the specifc relic you wanted only dropped form wave 3 and after you got the relic you still had to do a mission to open it and roll again this time for a bp. There is nothing like that in dna. You either exchange clues for letters or get them as a drop form weekly bosses.
Once I decided on a weapon to farm it took me half a day to get all the materials. That's with drop rate boosters plus I already had a stockpile from all the random rewards since the start of the game.In itself it wouldn't be that bad but the combat becomes so repetitive so quickly. I can't bring myself to do this again.
>>724630958Here's hoping Hero will optimize the grind. I wanted that segmented sword, but I don't want to do all that grinding again...
I'm starting to wonder why the fuck I'm doing this grind even. The main story is good but other than that I'm just not having fun just spam clicking through waves of enemies.
>>724631716The meat of the game is that, but if you really don't want to they also give options to click less. Challenge is still ultimately the usual chink gacha routine.
>>724622093yep, if you EVER get to this point with a videogame then just quit, it's not worth it
I don't understand how they're going to make money. Ok, sure, they're after whales obviously. Still, there's ONE fucking skin in the premium shop.And the battlepass is worthless. It gives mostly the shitter tier currency.
>>724633305Costume gacha being the most obvious one, ease of access, trade your time with money, etc. I think each unit cost ~$50 each. If casuals with lots of money to spare were to instantly want to have 6 dupes of characters. You're looking at ~$300 purchase. The question i have is does the game content offer enough for the casual to drop that much money though?
>>724621686That's just Warframe but with shorter crafting times.>farm for the blueprint>have to repeat missions for the 0.1% drop chance>farm for the materials>farm for the unique material used only for this weapon>farm so a vendor will sell you a blueprint for a material>craft the materials into the special materials needed for the weapon (30 minutes a piece)>spend hours/days crafting the weapon>crafting times can be sped up by paying>uh oh, no slots, gotta pay for that!>now you have the weapon, which is completely useless because it's unlevelled, so now you gotta spend hours levelling it>oh, and also get an item to increase its energy capacity so you can actually slot mods into it
>>724627116I have his trip filtered so I don't really care. Dunno why people don't filter tripfags automatically, haven't seen one in over 10 years.
Yeah I'm not going to keep playing this. Maybe I'll come back for story updates but I'm just not feeling this grind and this combat.
Enemies deal pointlessly little damage.
>>724621921>the average mind of a gachabrain think it's about instawin
Can't level up further until I rank up.
>Please ensure you have time to complete this story quest, it's long>expect to be locked in for about 40 minutes>it's around 2 straight hours almost>with no save states
>>724640027>no save statesWhy are you lying? You get a checkpoint every ten minutes.
>>724640027That quest lasts for 10 minutes before unlocking teleportation, retard. You can teleport back and forth to that location at any point after that, you don't need to clear the whole quest chapter
>>724633305>ONE fucking skin in the premium shopAnd gacha drops are horrible, there's like 10 items in total in gacha, and 20 more recolors of those items.
Need more demon girls.
>>724621686It's just like relics in warframe.
the hourglass the skin gacha currency right? there's no point in saving it or using it if i dont care about cosmetic stuff right?
>>724621686If only u played good game like fortnite instead
how do you get golden EXP tickets?don't tell me this shit is limited...
some of the story's set pieces are absolute kino, it almost, almost, makes me wish I wasn't skipping everything because the writing itself is chinese dogshit
>>724649158just farm them, gold is worse than lower rarities so converting is very bad for some reason
>>724649247The writing is good actually, it's not overly verbose, it doesn't dump lore all over your face like most Chinese games do. It's just clean and straight to the point, a solid story
>>724649828NTA but the first act kind of drags on certain parts. The second act felt perfectly paced though and I was engaged throughout.Kinda jarring how they're handled so differently but I can understand them not wanting to immediately start with a story that's so heavily focused on railroading you through several hours.
>>724622157Thats nearly every fucking gacha for you nigger
>>724652790Yeah. Most gachas like WuWa are complete dogshit. Thankfully there are some good gachas like Genshin where five years in launch 4*s are still defining the meta.
god forbid you have to play the game to get things in it
can't believe the story in this game is so good
>>724654879>chinks got mad she dies>changed to story to make her live
>>724654879Why did they give her shoes?
>>724654940retardshe still dies in this cutscene
>>724654995sure thing buddy, wait for next patch and see
>>724654969it's cold
>>724654995The scene right after basically tells you you're going to pull her out of whatever the fuck the afterlife is in this game.
>>724649247Phantasio's arc was really good. I hope they can keep the quality at this level but, considering 1.1 is already going to be not-China, I'm not hopeful.
>>724657867just enjoy a little break in the PLOT PLOT PLOT PLOT treadmill
>>724657867>1.1 is already going to be not-ChinaEverytimeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa