Bing bing wa... who?
>we only got four games featuring Mario this year and not five>why have Nintendo abandon him?
>>724640107>more suffering...
>>724640107The sad thing is, DK Bananza IS supposed to be a Super Mario Odyssey sequel/prequel (because it takes Pauline's revival as a musician and the mention of DK shit in New Donk City from SMO and basically runs with it as an entire game). But DK Bananza is a victim of absolutely batshit scatterbrained brand coordination.
>>724640107>what is mario kart world
>>724640490You know the implication is a new mainline Mario game. Don't be obtuse.
>>724640548Donkey Kong just came out. They're not going to release two enormous quasi-open world platformers back to back. You space that shit out.
>>724640687Just like they're not going to release two cartoon racing games back to back, right?
>>724640107Nintendo has FORGOTTEN about Mario
>>724640107>they really thought baneasy and world bore were gonna sell the system like botw and odyssey did
>>724640828they shouldn't have.Presumably Hal retains a degree of autonomy, and Sakurai wanted to make another one before he retires though.
>>724640828No new 3d Mario has been announced, so they're clearly not releasing "back to back". The situation here is also very different. Mario and Donkey Kong are the same universe. Kirby is not part of said universe.
They just released the brand new Super Mario Galaxy games. If anything, they're working overtime because they released a sequel WITH the first one
>>724641128>brand new Super Mario Galaxy gamesAnon, I know this is your first Nintendo system, but the Galaxy games originally came out on Wii.
>>724640490Inferior to 8 Deluxe.
>>724640434Bananza was supposed to be a Switch 1 game that came out years ago. But the hardware was too weak and couldn't meet their demands. This is an instance where the 8 year gap between Switch 1 and 2 and up hurting Nintendo.
>>724641171No, they're brand new! That's why they are 70 dollars together.
I want to post the article, but I can't into archive. But damn, it's extremely retarded.
>>724641191Bananza is braindead instant gratification zoomer slop anyways it's not a replacement for Mario.
>>724640959Pokemon's going to carry it through the holidays, but 2026 is where shit starts getting bumpy (especially since they're ending the MKW bundle soon). Fucking FIRE EMBLEM was their "one more thing" in the Switch 2's very first Direct. Obviously they'll reveal more shit in February, but that first Direct was a horrible first look into 2026 for the Switch 2.
>>724641285good thing they'll release another 3D Mario whenever they release it, which will realistically be within two years.
>>724641540>which will realistically be within two yearstwo more weeks
>>724641621No, you're right. They've abandoned Mario, and are never making another game.
nintendo has forgotten about mario..............
>>724641664Multiple Mario games release every year though.
>>724640107If you want it to last 100 years going a bit slower seems better both for not running out of ideas and not burning the audience out.
>>724641526 2026 is going to be a year of Switch 2 editions. The Animal Crossing update announcement confirmed it. There's no way Smash Ultimate Complete Edition isn't in the cards for next year.
>>724640330This, if they don't release at least 6 Mario games a year does it even count?
>>724640828Sakurais too much of a big name to lose at this point so he gets to do whatever he wants as long as he attaches his name to smash.
>>724640687I don't know what "back to back" is supposed to mean in this context but I'm pretty sure 3D mario is their big holiday title next year
>>724641285bananza is much better than odyssey and you could describe odyssey with exactly the same kind of gorillabrain nigger buzzwords you just posted
>>724641869There's probably going to be a big Mario game next year or a Mario Kart World update. The Mario Galaxy movie is almost certainly in April and it will probably there to boost Mario game sales during next financial year rather than this one.
>>724641526Um, no. Pokemon is going to carry it STARTING 2026. Gen 10 games release next year.
It is finish...Our cherry faced plumber shall never again be seee...I somberly recall his scarlet cap, and jovial gait..Mama mia...
>>724642171*the Mario Galaxy is almost certainly in April specifically to boost Mario games during the next financial year rather than this one.
>>724641526seething slop enjoyer
I know people love to meme on the whole "Mario is... le FORGOTTEN" meme since it seems so ridiculous to say about Nintendo's mascot franchise, but at this point it's kind of an actually valid thing to talk about, at least for mainline games, since this is by far the biggest gap between new 3D games. Not having a new mainline Mario OR Zelda revealed by now for a new Nintendo system is insane.
>>724642269Super Mario Bros Wonder is a mainline game.
the average plumber lifespan is 37
>>724642319Cool? What does that have to do with the Switch 2 though?
>>724642029The way I see it, if you're Nintendo and you're smart, you only really want one "big game" a year, if that.The last thing you want to do is blow your load immediately, and then have the system completely drop off.
>>724642269They opted to do Donkey Kong instead, which is effectively a full 3D Mario.
>>724642492It was retarded of them to expect DK to have the same starpower as Mario or Zelda, especially coming before either of them, with how terribly and inconsistently they've handled the IP in the past decade.
>>724642581Idk I think Donkey Kong has a lot of star power. Especially among older people
>>724642581maybe, but it's cool that they took that chance.I'm not going to shit on them too much for actually doing something cool.Probably figured S2 was going to sell anyway, and it did, so why not try ride the momentum, and try to invigorate something that hasn't been big for a while.
>>724642269I'm a zoomer and I'm still old enough to remember when the 2d Mario games were more popular than the 3d ones. NSMB Wii sold more than double what Galaxy did.Odyssey's fine, but did it really deserve to shoot 3d Mario games into mega seller status? What the hell changed?This situation comes from the different ways people view 3d Mario games. To me, they're like alcohol. Great when the situation presents itself, but if you keep seeking it out you have a problem. 3d Mario games are not fucking system sellers. Mariokart is, however. (This is not me saying I love the new Mariokart)
>>724642376It's getting a Switch 2 Edition therefore its a mainline Switch 2 Mario game
>>724642581Could've been but they made a boring effortless collectathon and I'll never replay it.
I don't understand Nintendo anymore.
>>724642710>Idk I think Donkey Kong has a lot of star power. Especially among older peopleThe DK ports on Switch sold abysmally (though in same fairness to DKCR, it came right at the tailend of the Switch's primary lifespan and gained a poor reputation for shoddy porting). And that was your lot for DK on the Switch, outside of NSO emulation.>>724642831>3D Mario games don't sell systemsYou're right, you are a zoomer. Shush.
>>724643047they haven't since literally the N64, to be fair.Zelda sells Nintendo systems. And Smash Bros.3D Mario games exist, and are generally good and well liked.
>>724642171I think they said in the Direct that the Galaxy movie will be the main showcase of Mario's big 40th Anniversary. That implies no new 3D game until at least 2027. By that point SMO will be over 10 years old.
>>724640107THE SWITCH 2 JUST FUCKING CAME OUT, SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE CAME OUT 10-11 MONTHS AFTER THE LAUNCH OF THE GAMECUBE, IF JOURNALISTS CAN AFFORD TO KEEP USING THE SAME LE SAD MARIO JPGS THEY CAN VISIT THE SAME WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE FROM THAT SAME ARCHIVE YEAR THEY DUG THAT FUCKING SLOP UP FROM GODDAMN I HATE STUPID PEOPLE
why are retards itt posting as if it was a mistake to open the switch 2 era with DK? the console is a massive successhave you confused youtube slop with AI generated thumbnails with real life again?
>>724643301>SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE CAME OUT 10-11 MONTHS AFTER THE LAUNCH OF THE GAMECUBEAnd was also shown off at Spaceworld and E3 before the GCN's release.
This thread is full of bots. The "article" sucks dick and so do this fucking board.
>>724643324Because my autism tells me Nintendo *should* have a 3D Mario out by now, and the fact that they don't mean they're failing, and have abandoned their fans, or something.
>>724643324You really don't know what momentum is, do you?>>724643486We get it you didn't touch Nintendo systems until 2017
>>724643486Headcanons like that are why Nintendo does the opposite, patternfags are a blight.
>>724643613No, their fucked-up devtimes are why they're doing what they're doing recently.
>>724643591>You really don't know what momentum is, do you?wouldn't it be smart to keep your biggest titles in the pocket to maintain momentum? do you want them to blow their load in the first six months or something?
>>724643462So was pic related. Reminder that there was no Zelda game until nearly 2 years after the launch of the Gamecube and it looked like fucking shit.
>>724643665Thanks for confirming what I said.
>>724643035(((shareholders)))
>>724643675Yeah they were such fucking boneheads for having a Zelda at the launch of the Switch 1 and revealing a 3D Mario before its launch too.>>724643725Wind Waker was also shown off before the GCN's release at Spaceworld 2001.
>>724642492Fetus game is barely not-shovelware, let alone a Mario game.
tendies keep hoarding them Ls
>>724643324>tendies defending sloppy kong: boring-za because their friends at Nintendo made a ton of money off itGrim. Not cultists btw. Don’t call them that.
>usual ugly sperg seething about tendiesoh ok I thought it was a genuine thread at some point, silly me
As a Nintendo fan, what would honestly make me happy is a new F-Zero, a new (good) Starfox, and a new Wario Land. What would make me happier is some new shit that I don't even know I want yet.3D Mario is not a thing I get excited about. They'll make one and it'll be good. Whatever. Who gives a shit? It'll come out. It'll be more or less more of what you had before.
>>724644129>those grapes are sour anyway
>>724644129>StarfoxGodyes
>>724644181That's not what I said. I literally didn't even play all of Odyessey, and there's romhacks that are pretty much as good as full new games at this point. I am gorged on 3D Mario.
>>724640423I don't understand this mindset of trying to get people thinking that the woman does not owe anything for being rescued. All it does it reduces the number of people that would step in and rescue women from situations.Like, of course every guy knows that nothing is guaranteed but you want him to have it in his head that it's worthwhile taking a risk in rescuing a woman, and you want women to have it in their head that they better be appreciative because they aren't entitled to being rescued for nothing in return. As always feminists keeps making the world worse while believing they are the good guys.
>>724640107>tendies after five minutes without a wahoo to bing bing
>>724640107Spoiled tunnel-vision autistic nintendo brats that refuse to play a game not named Mario or Zelda when they don't get a yearly game named Mario or Zelda (while also shitting on yearly low-quality Pokemon/CoD/Fifa games)
>>724644784FEfag or Xenofag? You assholes who have a chip on your shoulder over Mario and Zelda are always at least one of the two.
>>724640107>Bing bing wa... who?i like this, creative OP. hope you came up with it yourself.
>>724644784>when they don't get a yearly game named Mario or ZeldaNigger it's been 8 fucking years since the last 3D Mario
>>724645095Odyssey's studio just made Bananza, so if you don't care about the re-releases or 2D or sports or Mario Maker 3, I guess you'll have to wait another 8 years.Unless Bowser's Fury is from another studio, then idk
>>724645790 Bowser’s Fury was EPD Tokyo too, just a smaller internal team. They’ve been split since 3D World to juggle multiple projects. One group likely led Odyssey/Bananza, the other did Bowser’s Fury/Maker 2/etc. So yeah, they're still in active development mode, but expecting them to blow out another full-scale 3D Mario right after Bananza is delusional. It's not “waiting 8 years” if they’ve been drip-feeding side content the whole time. People just got gluttonous on Odyssey and forgot how long gaps used to be.
>>724645845>People just got gluttonous on Odyssey and forgot how long gaps used to be.64 > SMS = 6 years (and this one also baffled people back in the day as to why the fuck they didn't do a followup to SM64)SMS > Galaxy = 5 yearsGalaxy > Galaxy 2 = 3 yearsGalaxy 2 > 3D Land = 1 year3D Land > 3D World = 2 years3D World > Odyssey = 4 years
>>724640107Journalists are the scourge of the earth.>What? Bananza? Instead of another 3D mario game? This sucks! Nintendo should really think about their strategy.Clearly it was a very conscious decision by nintendo to have the Mario team develop Bananza instead of yet another 3D mario for the sake of it. For all the shit nintendo gets for playing it safe with the constant mario games, this should be appreciated.Also that>The most recent nintendo direct (not the kirby one)almost leads to imply Kirby Air ride doesn't count or something, when in fact it's one of the most solid-looking games of the year, even as a switch 2 exclusive and that what we should REALLY be worried about is that we still don't know what the next 3D mario game will be like, if there's one at all.
>>724640687>They're not going to release two enormous quasi-open world platformers back to backWhy not? They're releasing two racing games almost back to back.
>>724644639Nigger are you literally insane?I hope to god this is bait but I'm afraid it isn't.
>>724642171They’ve already said there’s not going to be a 2026 mainline Mario. It’s just going to be the Wonder update and the new movie.
>>724646260>Why not?Because it's the very same Mario developers who developped Donkey Kong Bananza? Who should have been making the Mario team instead? The Zelda team?
>>724646104>almost leads to imply Kirby Air ride doesn't count or somethingNo it doesn't you melodramatic baby. It's to distinguish the general Direct from the Air Riders Direct since the former is a look ahead to the upcoming lineup of the Switch 2 whereas the Air Riders Direct is a deep dive into an already-announced game that's just around the corner. How did you not pick up on this context from the screencap OR the replies in the thread?
>>724644639based
>>724643759explainshareholders would want a new major mario release
>>724646101Well, they don't have lower-scale portable-only projects anymore. I guess it's kinda acceptable to ignore Bowser's Fury from your list, but Bananza not so much, even if there's no Mario in it
>>724644639You're correct but morons like >>724646280 will continue to exist sadly
>>724646671I guess so. I'm just upset at the journalist's point in the article. I'm glad nintendo allows themselves to have their main team develop something other than whatever people expects them to. Mario gets a lot of games compared to other franchises, and the final years of the switch were drowned in Mario games of all sorts.Mouthing the last Kirby game in the same breath as her unreasonable frustration just rubbed me the wrong way is all.
>>724646865And that's a big problem - them combining their portable teams with their console teams AND hoovering up a huge chunk of Japan's development talent should've helped offset devtime creep. Instead, their recent in-house games have only trended towards exploding devtimes. TotK (a BotW asset-flip with almost double the devteam size) took 6 years, longer than BotW itself; and MKW took almost a goddamn decade. Lopsided scope creep is starting to become a recurring issue for Nintendo.
I think the next 3D Mario is taking longer because it is going to be a cinematic experience.
>>724640107Are the journos ok? Mario hasn't been more popular
>>724647995he is le sad...They have renoucne him...Mios demios...
>>724640107What a braindead journo
>>724640423>>724644639I don't know how to write this in a few words.Old stories about rescues had boy-meets-girl relationships just because it filled space and relationships are natural. They were sloppa.Princess-Knight stories were the female fantasy and the knight owed her sex, a hot bod, to solve her problems through machoing it up, and a Kingdom, whilst she wears expensive dresses the other girls are jealous of and spends all day in her room reading fashion magazines.If you agree sex is transactional and the fictional women owe it, you've lost, because you agree with feminism, and now every woman in the room thinks feminism is right because of you.
>>724646856Yes but they do affect timing. Nintendo's still riding the Switch 2 wave. If they announce a Mario game now their shares will go so high that they won't be able to keep them steady, and will eventually plummet.They're waiting for their shares to settle.So yes, (((shareholeders))) ruined everything
>>724640107Hire me Nintendo, I will make "Mario Hits His Dick With A Hammer" and it'll sell 180million copies
>>724646865Stop trying to equate fetus game with Mario dude. No one’s buying it. Or actually buying it if the desperate demo release is to be believed.
>>724648767>dude, it's like super easy because you pick up collectibles constantlySo you didn't play Odyssey?
>>724649032Whatever helps you cope at night.
>>724644639>All it does it reduces the number of people that would step in and rescue women from situations.If you think humans don't have empathy without instant gratification or reward, then I think it is time for some self-reflection.If you only help others because you want something from them, then you are basically just turning empathy into commerce. Nothing wrong with expecting a "thank you" from another, but if your only reason or motivation for helping another person is material worth or them owning their body/life to you then I just don't know.Treat others as you wish to be treated.
>>724649170This is just the classic "honor vs no honor" or "idealism vs pragmatism" discussion, and history has proven time and time again that the the former always gets abused and loses while the latter abuses and wins.You are a sucker propagating more suckers.
>>724649170And ? everything he said is true, keep seething morale slaver faggot
>>724640107Nintendo Switch Has (no Mario) Games
how do you mess this up? You have one job.
>>724649640>>724649807Maybe the country/culture where you are from is bit different, or maybe your parents taught you that helping others without receiving something is moralfaggotry etc., but over here trust is important and you help those in need.
>>724649170>empathy has nothing to do with transaction or expectation>why would you enjoy looking at, hearing the voice of or touching the skin of a woman? Y- you're s- saving her b- because it's the r- right thing to do, right?>do unto others, anon!We do good deeds because we were rewarded with attention for doing them and punished with scolding for not doing them.You cannot see this for you are not only blind but you are lecturing anon for your own gratification. Something similar to if anon saved a woman, for his own gratification of beholding a woman, as his genetics have taught him to.You are selfish. Recognise that.And also recognise you are not treating anon how you want to be treated. You are insulting him every step of the way. You do not want to be insulted, not unless you're a masochist.
>>724644639No you're right, and much worse: There are a subset of women who defend their abusers and make you into the bad guy for trying to help
>>724640107I don't think the switch 2 will last 100 years.
>>724648635>Old stories about rescues had boy-meets-girl relationships just because it filled space and relationships are natural. They were sloppa.They're the basis of our western literary creation. So much so that it was parodied in the 1600s with Don Quixote.
>>724650483Yes. Which is why postmodern feminist framing that they're about sex slavery of women should be thrown in the bin.
>>724640107name any IP that's 100 years old and still relevant
>>724650676Mickey Mouse only needs 3 years.
>>724640107God damn, nintendorks really are children. Just be patient.
>>724644639wow my post really took off didn't it, thanks for all the gold.instead of replying to all of (You) getting upset over what I say you should know that what I say is 100% true, spreading feminism-garbage will make fewer good men act in the face of evil, and you do in fact make the world a worse place when you say shit like "women don't owe you anything when you rescue them".most likely you are simply too young to understand what i'm even saying and you've grown up being fed feminism-garbage your whole life.
>>724650838it's intentional to turn the idea of noble self-sacrifice into a negative connotation of sexual transaction in order to undermine a formerly high-trust society where it was simply a man's job to protect a woman in distress.The basis of every low-trust society is the 'Every man for himself' mentality in which no man feels oblige to raise a finger for anybody in distress, woman or child. In the past it was the risk of violence which created the low-trust society, now it's the risk of backlash and responsibility. Much like how China's rules around Samaritanism has led to a society that won't even help a kid being ran over in the street. It's an intentional attack to divide us from our fellow man.
>>724640107I literally know nothing about Mario but he's always the one getting cucked in peach porn for some reason
>>724649170>Treat others as you wish to be treated>he doesn't want a lady in shining armor to rescue him, kick him in the balls, and peg himNGMI
>>724652262He also got cucked in the official 3D mario movie for some reason.
>>724646104>we still don't know what the next 3D mario game will be likeit will be open world, I hope you enjoy it
>>724652262not just porn
>>724640107NINTENDO FORGOT ABOUT MARIO
I honestly thought Bowser's Fury was a tech demo for the next Mario game. All they had to do was make it bigger and more stuff to do and voila, new Mario game.
>>724642831>What the hell changed?Nintendo spammed the NSMB series until people got sick of it (and 2D Mario) and the gams stopped selling.so they took a break3D world did well as it felt fresh with the 3D element and multiplayer, and let's be honest nobody cares for 3D Land.Mario Maker was a success since it has been a while since the last 2D Mario and Nintendo just copied the old mario flash games which were always popularWonder was just HD NSMB and sold well but was forgotten in a month as people care more for 3D MarioDespite how many games Mario has, he barely has 3D ones ( 64, Sunshine, and Odyssey) and the time gaps for them are hugeOdyssey was huge because of the time gap from that to Sunshine.The lack of 3D Marios make people starved for them, there's also less 3D platformers than 2D ones in general too
>>724642581I honestly don't know why the DKCR series didn't continueWe should have gotten at least 2 more of those games. I have no idea why Retro was allowed to just meme around and do nothing for multiple years when they're one of the main studios owned by Nintendo
>>724641184Sure, but it's still a big new Mario game that helps keep eyes on the series.
>>724640423If men were rewarded for saving women then a lot more women would be saved from dangerous situations they get themselves into on a daily basis.
>>724649170Hey foid, nobody is risking their neck for you in exchange for a "thank you"You retards are always crying at the comment section of videos with women being assaulted while other men do nothing but watch
>>724646101Nobody counts Galaxy 1/2, 3D Land, and 3D World as 3D MariosWhen people talk about 3D Mario they're talking about 64, SMS, and Odyssey. The open collectathons.Even Nintendo categorizes them like that
What? We gave you Galaxy 1 and 2 ports.What more do you want?
>>724654737>Even Nintendo categorizes them like thatThe image you posted literally categorizes all of those games as "3D Mario".
>>724640107Bing bing wabloobloobloo
>>724641285Bananza is one of the best 3D collectathons ever made, you buzzword spewing, dopamine addicted zoomer faggot.
>>724643810>Yeah they were such fucking boneheads for having a Zelda at the launch of the Switch 1 and revealing a 3D Mario before its launch too.they needed to build momentum after the Wii U for Switch, not so much for Switch 2
should i buy a Switch 2?
>>724640107Mario games this past gen.
>>724656179And not a single one of them was good except for 3D World, which was a port. Impressive.
>>724641285It's funny watching schizos seethe about DKB endlessly because they'll never get to play it.
>>724656269>all these great games are shit!Your Nintendo Derangement is hysterical.
>>724651092>It's an intentional attack to divide us from our fellow man.Good, because people are shit and you have never been homeless if you think otherwise.
>>724650352Gotcha arguments doesn't really work when discussing something even semi-seriously.>We do good deeds because we were rewarded with attention for doing them and punished with scolding for not doing themThat is basic human behavior and raising your children. However, are you taught to only help others if you get something out of it?The thing is, that most civilizations, and even tribes, help each other because it is just human thing to do. Some people are taught by either their family or society and groups at large that helping others should be only done if you get something out of it. See this thread and many of the replies. For example the anon insisting I'm a "foid" for even suggesting the fact one can help another without getting something out of it.The selfish argument doesn't work either, that is something I have gone through myself and with many people. It is trying to turn emotion and empathy into logic which is just a self-destructing spiral. That is why you cannot logic yourself out of depression for example by saying "just be happy so you feel better".Calling other people selfish for doing good things is just showing your own perspective on empathy. It seems like you are just completely unable to accept that some people just likes doing good, and that they must have some ulterior motiveBecause you wouldn't do it.It is very limited perspective on world and other people as you view other people's wants and needs and motivations through your own logic. Like the fact you insist that "you just do good things because you were taught so".I bet quite many people were taught to do good things and punished for doing bad things, but some people still do bad things and rarely do good things.Why? With your logic, if they are selfish they would help others. So are they less selfish if they don't? See a kid that has lost their wallet. Not helping said kid is less selfish than helping them?Unless you get rewarded, then it is less selfish?
>>724656282Sorry, tendie. Nintendo games just don't have that "thing you must experience before you die" reputation anymore what with them being not only more expensive but incomplete at launch.
>>724644129Sorry, anon, Nintendo doesn't know or remember any of those besides F-Zero, and that was for a Switch 1 online-only game. At best, you're getting another WarioWare and a Star Fox reference in a different Nintendo game.
Goddamn how many NDS threads does this make? 5 or so at once?Guess the monkey is not taking well that people aren't attacking inti and nintendo over the steam ban of majogami.
>>724657071~/BladeRunner.avi2
>>724655417did you genuinely misunderstand what that post is about
>>724654737The next 3d Mario will be a linear one, not an open one. Cope and seethe.
>Nintendo doesn’t announce the latest mainline Mario game years in advance >”Mario has been…le forgotten”
>>724658656Doubt. Nintendo can't do anything but shart out empty open worlds now.
