that's just geometry dash

>spikes
You ever wonder what inspired video game designers to add arbitrary death spikes into video games like they fucking exist in the real world?

I've NEVER just seen "spikes" out in the wild.

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>>724675990
>he plays on easy modo

>>724676391
>PSN
This would never happen on xbox live.

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>>724676391
looks fairly relaxed and not dead.
Is that one of those insulated pizza delivery bags? that's a fuckload of pizza

>>724675990
I bet you can't double jump either

>>724675990
Vietnamese used spikes dipped in shit against the evil empire trying to invade them.

>>724675990
I saw anti-perching spikes to keep away pigeons less than 30 minutes ago at a gas station. Leave your house anon?

>>724676975
No I just don't live in a pigeon infested shithole...

It only affects retards that play Kaizo or troon indie plaformers for imaginary bragging rights so it doesnt really matter.

>>724676975
>Gee we have a lot of birds out here should we:
>Pay our attendants enough to keep litter off the ground and make the storefront more inviting
>Install retarded ineffectual spikes to protect a small area
Gas station owners piss me off

>>724677395
Nah pigeons are just looking for perches to perch on 24/7, it has nothing to with litter, you have to build things with this knowledge in mind

>>724676975
Name one platformer when you play as pidgeon

>>724677565
They would likely look harder in areas where food (trash) is abundant, don'tcha think, captain retardo?

>>724675736
My main gripe with this design philosophy is that it eliminates any creative thought or freedom of strategy from the player.
The level CAN ONLY be completed in one specific way with these specific, precise inputs. It becomes less about adaptability, skillful knowledge, and reaction time and becomes more about memorization and muscle memory.
Literally just turn off your brain and go through the motions until you win.
I guess it's why robotic autists love this type of shit, as well as speedrunning (which essentially turns into the same thing...learn this very precise series of timings and inputs and then just mindlessly repeat to perfection).

>>724677947
But speedrunning is lots of about finding new strategies and optimizations. How is it not more creative than just idk following a story?

>>724678169
>Esl

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>>724678212
Better than english only language

>>724676523
lmao

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>>724675990
erm, castles aren't full of lava! why do video game designers add lava to castles? those don't exist in real life! what are they stupid?

>>724675736
Doesn’t happen in Mario

>>724682881
>His castle isn't full of lava

>>724675736
The genre is too easy and many people have been playing them for decades at this point. This is why we see so many super difficult only for the hardcore types of platformers.

>>724682996
Lava is too played out, my castle has molten piss instead.

>>724675990
>his city doesn't have anti-homeless architecture

>>724675736
People don't like getting game overed so we've gone from classic reasonably challenging endurance run style level design to "just put rape in every screen cause you respawn right there anyway with no repercussions LOL"
Same goes for boss fights

>>724678169
it's about repeating an exact sequence of inputs someone else figured out until you get lucky enough for all the randomness to swing in your favor

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>>724677395
>>Pay our attendants enough to keep litter off the ground and make the storefront more inviting
this is such a retarded and unfeasible idea that i'm going to call you stupid. You are stupid.

>>724675736
i blame super meat boy.

>>724688413
The most disgusting part is that we've had multiple generations of games aping SMB and not a single one that even matched it.

>>724675736
Most of those are called "precision platformers" and can be easily filtered using steam.

>>724678169
Very few speedrunners find those optimizations and strategies, the rest just autistically grind it to perfection

>>724676524
>>724676391
use your fucking eyes, it doesn't even look like a singular pizza box can fit into that bag's geometry.

>>724675736
More importantly, where are the fucking games like that? All I know is SMB and Celeste and I want to play more

>>724683824
>molten piss
As opposed to... solid piss?

>>724692624
Any kaizo shit that forces you to play in the most optimal way possible.

>>724675736
Flash game-era game design is absolute dogshit. Checkpoints every minute but every single screen is trial and error instant death trap galore. No sense of pacing, no variety, no sense of risk and reward by rewarding those who managed to stay alive for long periods of time.
Absolute dogshit.

>>724677641
we don't sign our posts here

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>>724676975
I have a pet dove and eventually I affixed some anti-pigeon spikes to the top of my monitors so she'd stop obsessively trying to go up there and take giant shits. They are effective.

>>724692624
you could try googling the genre name, I hear that's a good way to find more games of a specific genre/subgenre

>>724696161
What about Solidus Piss? Naked Piss?

>>724675736
I dropped HK at the white castle part with saw blades and spikes literally like in that pic as i simply didn't hate myself to go through it.
What did i miss out on?

what if we just exterminated all the pigeons. they seem useless anyways

>>724675990
I saw this vid about a dude who played video games so much as a kid that he developed a fear of grass because it reminded him of spikes from video games

He was also terrified of water (because water in video games back then almost always meant death), mirrors, and among other things, the letter P

It was kinda wild

>>724696976
Path of Pain? I think it only leads to some extra lore bullshit and a reward of some kind. I did force myself to go through with it, because I do hate myself.

Oh wait I just checked, there is no real reward just a cutscene.

>>724697064
Stuff like that is pretty fascinating. For whatever fucking reason our monkey brains can end up coming to conclusions like that because of completely fictional things. Rumor has it that some people these days have this weird condition where too much gaming has made them see HP bars etc. on top of real life people just like a videogame comic would have done in the past.

>>724696161
grilled cheese

>>724697147
Yeah gaming has unironically rewired my brain, for better and for worse. At this point everything I do in my mind is achievement based. Me learning a certain amount of new recipes, doing a certain amount of overtime, getting my degree, getting married, etc. everything has an imaginary point value associated with it that keeps me going

Oh and the aforementioned person is called “Ulillillia” if you’re interested. Really amazing guy

A challenge that's just needing to perfect a fixed sequence is something that belongs in the rhythm game genre. The less creativity and adaptability games require the worse they are as games.

>>724697064
Ullillia?

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>>724675990
these things got a nickname "cowboy killer" because if you fell off your horse onto one of these, you just fucking died
https://www.ranchotissue.com/product/agave-americana/

>>724697064
That's some next level low IQ shit

>>724696976
Ah, yes, the Path of Painfully Explosive Butthurr With Extra Serving.
After about 70 tries to get past the two metal flies there (with most of them being interrupted before that) i had used a trainer with full invul. This way you can see all the bullshit, while travelling normally and even can actually explore things a bit normally withou getting buttblasted every few steps for the next 4-5 months. However - at the very end there is a small fight with two big scythe-wielders like ones you have previously encountered in the palace, just to fuck you up, as you have to jump into the pit and just between the two withour knowing that. And after that you have a 3 second stationary cutscene of a small (now big) original Hollow Knight standing still together with Pale King with your backs to you looking into nothingness. You get your optional (don't count for Hunter) small nothing-meaning record. And that is the very moment you understand, why it is called Path of Pain.
But, seriously, using the trainer will help you to either walk it normally as if it would be just some hidden corridor and to try yourself at parts of this challenge without actually experiencing frustration. In fact, palace has some hidden rooms (room of Queen, room, where scythe-wielders were made (and a heavy implication, that the Collector is actually one of them with his instruction to "protect" goong awry) etc.

>>724677395
>birds don't land where there's no litter
yeah, powerlines are well-known for being covered in trash

>>724680420
there's no reason to know a language that isn't english

>>724697578
I've hiked a ton around Texas and never heard that shit before, anon. Wouldn't want to fall into one but the plant would break before penetrating too deep in ya. The bigger shithead agave is the lechuguilla--or as we call 'em, the "let-me-getchya". Those sons of bitches will stab you through your jeans if you so much as brush past one. They get you about an inch deep, draws blood, and they leave a fucking microfilm in you so you don't even scab up right away. Fucking sucks. Don't go bushwacking in Central America where these fuckers are abundant.

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>>724684121
Nta and I don't live in USA, but it is kinda hilarious governments there spend money on this kind of stuff instead of just building apartments for the homeless and helping them to become members of the society again.
I am from country with "housing first" policy tho, but I would think murica would have more than enough money for few apartment complexes per city.

>>724697806
Homelessness is often caused by drug addiction and mental illness, you could probably help in the first case but the second is almost impossible.

>>724675736
I just want comfy jump and runs like Yoshis Island back.

>>724697806
You'd think the city would want to keep their homeless warm and dry if only to prevent spread of disease. Even if you don't give a single shit about them, this makes no sense.

>>724695075
Gotta dissolve the kidney stones somehow.
Fucking grimderp piss wizards.

>>724697806
We have something close to that, it's called Section 8 housing and you only pay about 30% of your income as rent, regardless of what you make. It is arguably worse and more crime-filled than actual homeless camps. S8 neighborhoods are basically groid warzones that you should not expect to survive unless you enter in an armored vehicle with coax guns.
I cannot fucking imagine the kind of kowloon hell that free apartment complexes would become. You would need 24/7 armed security on every corner of every hall, doing regular checks on people's persons and rooms and disallowing anything that wasn't food or clothing (and searching through those boxes too). The cost of construction would be a pittance compared to the necessary upkeep.

>>724697553
Yep that’s the guy

>>724675736
I love how frequently it comes out that /v/ is just not good at 2D platforming games.

>>724692624
Cave Story is from 2004, it predates both Kaizo Mario and I Wanna Be The Guy.

>>724698162
It's basically for Karens and Karens (male) who spend all of their time status-LARPing and don't actually live there.
Hostile architecture is sold in the same aisle as oversized cars, bright white LEDs that go purple and "Live, Laugh, Love" posters.
Fixing the problem is always going to be slowed down by mental illness and drug addiction, and it's always going to be difficult to eke out a status-LARPing compatible win when trying to address that, since it's more of an ongoing effort with fewer visible results than just shitting spikes everywhere.

>>724692624
Dustforce

>>724697806
Some homeless you can help, some you can't. Seen cases where homeless would just rent their free housing to someone and continue living in the street for example.

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>>724677128
>lives in such a terrible shithole that not even pigeons wanna live there

>>724675990
When I was in uni, a student died because he pierced an artery trying to climb over a spiked fence lol

>>724698162
The railways used to have 1st class for the toffs with expensive tickets and lavish opulence. Then 2nd class was less nice but still good and the tickets were priced for that. But to let the poor partake of the new service there was a 3rd class that was super cheap but they were basically cattle cars with pews and were largely open to the elements. People naturally asked why they couldn't at least enclose them and make them a BIT more habitable and the reason was that too many people who could afford a 2nd class seat would save the nickel and travel in scum class if they didn't make it that shit.
If you make tent cities more hospitable people will choose to join the "homeless community" to escape the rat race. If you do your utmost to ensure it's an awful experience you keep the rats running the rat race just to keep their 4 wall s and a roof.
It's not just a capitalist thing. Human nature means people will naturally gravitate to an extreme bathtub curve if you don't put roadblocks in place.

>>724688413
I blame Jumper.

>>724697806
>Nta and I don't live in USA
that's the main problem
even americans fall for it and think "let's just do it like the nords"
the issue is that over there you get instajailed for drug use, thus all the homeless are temporary and mentally stable
in burgerland most of the homeless are drug addicts that will instantly and permanently ruin any housing given to them
that's why the shelters (that are far from full btw) have a strict no drug policy that the homeless seethe at

>>724676524
>Is that one of those insulated pizza delivery bags?
Yes. EMTs always have a couple dozen za's ready in case a patient needs to elevate their foot.

>>724675736
blame megaman for inventing instakill spikes

>>724682881
I remember in my school trip to a castle I fell into lava. Thankfully my teacher had a revive potion, so I got revived from the dead.

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>>724699686
them white people are taking all our animals

>>724677627
https://vikooss.itch.io/city-wings

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>>724699163
>the issue is that over there you get instajailed for drug use,
Da fuq no you don't? You usually get sent to rehabilitation if you want so and still get an apartment. My friend was in bad drug cycle and got an apartment and welfare(so he can buy food) and rehabilitation help because how the fuck do you get rid of your addiction if you don't even have a roof above your head or any kind of stability? Like the drugs themselves aren't the problem, it is the lack of safety or stability and only social contacts being your dealer and getting no help for it. Making an addict go cold turkey is sometimes borderline lethal.
Do you even know what you are talking about or are you
>implying

>>724697806
Homeless are homeless for a reason.
If you give them everything you wrote they would just sell it for cocaine and continue being human trash. They literally can't be helped.

>>724702805
Works on other countries

>>724702040
>Like the drugs themselves aren't the problem, it is the lack of safety or stability
NTA but no, drugs are literally the problem. Your instability was created by long-term drug abuse

>>724675990
Spikes communicate their purpose easily. You would expect falling onto or running into them to hurt, so you avoid them.

>>724704742
Yes, maybe I expressed my point poorly so my bad.
But what I mean is that if you think that someone can go cold turkey instantly without any social safety net or programs and get 9-5 job with a snap of your fingers then that isn't gonna really work.
So what I meant is that the drugs aren't as much of a problem as not having any chance on getting back to society. If someone is actually treated as a human being and gets proper help, they may also get rid of the drugs and their addiction as their life goes on.
Now you have homeless people who can't get a roof above their head because they have a drug problem, but can't stop using drugs because they are addicted and only social connections are other druggies and dealers. And they can't get their own apartment where they could at least live because they don't have a job, but they can't get a job because they don't have an apartment/house.
It's a complete mess and other countries have mostly realized that people need a home first and feeling of stability and safety before they can get anything else under control.
If you can't even be sure you might be able to feed yourself tomorrow or that nobody will help you if you get in trouble, then your mental health gets fucked up completely

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>>724675990
Anon...

>>724684227
this, the "save every step" era of gaming completely fucked the difficulty curve of ALL games, because if you designed them normally they'd be an absolute joke.

>>724705134
For any addiction, you have to want that change in your life or it will simply never happen. I've seen people go away for months, end up in a rehab program, then come back and return to using within a week or a month.

>>724676694
Denku stick, my dad was in nam, said they were real nasty.

>>724705134
Yeah I dunno, it just seems like such bullshit how some retard can completely destroy his life through no one's fault but his own and I'm expected to have my taxpayer dollars wasted on babying him and giving him a fresh start he doesn't deserve.
>I totaled my car because I'm a drunk driving retard, so the government should give me a new one for free
>I molested a child and can't get a job anymore because I'm on a fucking sex offender registry, so the government should wipe my record for free
I would genuinely rather suffer and die than live in such a namby-pamby society with no shame

>>724705521
It's an investment into society not turning into South Africa. These people will exist whether you think it's fair or not and they will become a problem for you if society you live in doesn't have a way to deal with them.

>>724705682
I think Singapore has the right idea. Drug abuse = life sentence or death penalty. It works for them

>>724692624
Lost crown divine trials but fuck ubisoft

>>724704541
the only place it ever worked in was nazi germany but that's antisemitic (and so is helping people because poor paypigs bring in billions to the rich every year)

>>724697806
>Nta and I don't live in USA, but it is kinda hilarious governments there spend money on this kind of stuff instead of just building apartments for the homeless and helping them to become members of the society again.
Not how it works, retard

>>724699135
Jumper was one of the progenitors of the genre, but it didn't become truly mainstream until Meatboy.

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>>724688413
I blame I Want To Be The Guy.

>>724709768
Kek

So what about N++

>>724698812
legitimately, non ironically, the first good argument i've seen against increased funding for shelters, fortunately though i don't think "the rat race" will be as relevant after the post-bubble paradigm shift