What made Halo special?
it's a cricle
>>724683318They called it... "Halo".
The pretentious overproduced music
It was the only thing to actually play on your Xbox.Unless you were playing fucking Voodoo Vince or something. Which I doubt.
>>724683318It did a lot of things well that console shooters really had not, in addition to being really the only notable game early in the xbox's life cycle(morrowind was supposed to be a launch title too but had to be delayed because it ran even worse than it ended up). If we compare it to PC shooters it's nothing special, but remember prior to it the peak of console shooters were golden eye and perfect dark.
>>724683318Unseen pilot, no sprint button, in house engine
>>724683318It was a 3d game that a kid let me borrow at church and I didn't have to keep the disk to run it.
>>724683318Being 8 years old and having nothing good to compare it to.
Halo was never good.
>>724683318>John 117wait...>John 1:17>For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.holy crap
>>724683318It was a release title on an entirely new generation and brand of console.
Why is Halo story/lore from the 2000s your typical gritty sci fi military lore shit, and the games are like >bro let’s kill some aliens man oo-rah!>*random extremely silly dialogue*>*aliens making silly noises and firing pew pew sounding laser guns*The only Halo game to take itself super seriously story wise from that era was Halo 2
>>724683318>Doesn't let you slaughter n*zisEh, there's always better
>>724683971Because it was aimed at boys and that's what boys like?
>>724683874Master Chief is basically Jesus kinda like Captain America
>>724684012But why aren’t the games gritty? Why are they silly fun games and they only get “scary” with The Flood, but the novels and extended universe is gritty and edgy?
>>724684073Because it was released between the ow the edge 90s and the later half of the 2000s where "realistic" morally grey bullshit started to creep in. You have a gun, are a cool cyborg, and shoot aliens. If you need more there were the books.
>>724683318It catered to casual subhumans
>>724683318>mystery>feels>coolThese were the three main things I can think of that made Halo special at one time. 343 cannot replicate this because they are anti-cool, only support sissified gay feels, and they stripped out all mystery the series once had.
Jaime is SEETHING>You aren’t supposed to be able to take the Warthog up to steamroll the Hunters. I intentionally placed rocks in the way so you had to fight them on foot. When you can just smash the crates out of the way it wrecks the encounters.But the worst part? They put trees in the landing area of the WooHoo Jump. Lame.@game_fabricatorWhat have they done to beloved B30?!>“Keep getting them checks.” Remakes and remasters are soul-destroying and I feel for any dev working on one. They can’t win and even if they do they won’t get credit. Bad situation unless you are getting paid $$$.https://x.com/32nds/status/1981927318752039135>“Make it an option” is the biggest red flag for a dysfunctional design. We have no vision for what this is supposed to be, here’s the tools to fix it yourself.>Gearbox did break a lot of stuff. Like basing their code off the PAL version…. Ugh>Pistol LS didn’t do headshots until very late in development. It felt like you were a real Spartan when you could dance with the Hunters with kill them in two perfect shots, so we left it in. Most people ditched the pistol on their first playthrough anyway.>At one point Cortana looked so much like the artist's wife that we all demanded he change the model.>I was the first designer on the Halo team. I have the email where I suggested that Halo defeated the Flood by killing all the potential hosts. I named the Gravemind. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.> My preferred ending is that Cortana and the Chief go through the wild portal and are permanently separated from humanity, like at the end of The Black Hole.>Let me know if you need help tuning the Warthog.
Reminder that Halo started the casualization and enshittification of video gaming
>>724683318It was comfy, something you would want to play after work. It didn't require you to be a crackhead off energy drinks like Quake or Doom did which appealed to "normal" gamers.The aesthetic was also great along with the music and story.
>>724683318dudebroslop
>>724683318>in the mood for halo>get into a match>realize how slow and boring it is>go back to titanfall>repeat
>>724684364This means Campaign Evolved is going to be one of if not the best game in this series and revitalize the Halo series, it won't be 2007 big, thankfully, but there will finally be a reason to play Halo for once.
It's going to be hilarious to me when the CE remake will be "modernized" for ultra fast-paced twitch shooting, then flop horribly and prove that FPS's are in the most culturally-irrelevant state they've ever been in
>>724683318you were a child
>>724684962It'll do well because it's a singleplayer game. The multiplayer-only game is screwed though.
>>724684962Let's be real, even if somehow it doesn't end up utter dogshit(it will, but let's pretend otherwise for a half second) it's still gonna flop due to how much bad will 343 has built up over the years.
>>724685124It's going to do well, Xbox no longer matters. Get out of echochamber, 3baby.
>>724683318The presentation and the local split screen muliplayer.The campaign had a very solid first act, but got more and more mediocre as it went along.
>>724685282>xbox doesn't matterNeither does halo, which is why xbox doesn't matter.
>It's going to do wellHalo has zero relevance with zoomers, most of the shills won't even buy it, and the franchise has been downtrending for roughly 20 years
>>724683318The smooth low poly models and chrome aesthetics. Everything in the game has a clean distinct silhouette
>>724685329>>724685342Xbox never mattered, Halo is on everything now, yes, it'll be on the Switch 2 within a year after its release on PlayStation 5 and PC. Sorry, 3babies/Xbots, this is no longer your series.
unironically you just had to be there
>>724683971it was made by like 40 nerds that liked 90's anime
>>724683318Atmosphere, style, substance. Even to this day you still have many shooters trying to match up to the overall sandbox design and style of Halo, and most of them treat downtime as cinematic plot moments, rather than bothering to do it as proper level pacing. And frankly, some of that Marathon Bungie mystique of the early days really bled over into a truly unique existence. The Helghast were evil space dudes with a rightful hatred, the demons of Doom were just flat out monsters from Hell, but the Covenant? The Installation of Halo? The Forerunner? So many questions, and a slow burn of answers over 7 years.Frankly I think gaming is just too cracked out and adrenaline-focused on blowing shit up and killing dudes as fast as possible to enjoy Halo anymore.
>>724685484Ok? Bro I haven't owned an xbox since the 360. I don't care what platform it ends up on. The simple fact of the matter is the series has long since lost it's cultural relevance. It doesn't matter anymore. It's no longer a big name. That's not me gloating either, I have fond memories of hanging out with buddies and playing split screen. But those days are long past, they aren't coming back. And neither is the series.
I guess it was the weather...
>>724685609That's a good thing though, it doesn't need to be popular, it just needs to be fun and have a new fanbase to enjoy and talk about it, not the multiplayer, but talk about the singleplayer. This series was pure cancer when it was popular.
>>724683318>seeing that webm just gave me a flashback of when i played halo as my first fps game (ik babbys first fps) and was bewildered by the environment and then crossing over a bridge or some shit after picking up ammo from the drop podi should play this game again.
>>724685760>word salad
The remake feels like one of those games that's going to bomb horribly in sales but will create 1 or 2 dedicated schizos that pretend it's literal perfection out of sheer contrarianism
>>724685605Also I swear to god if the remake decides night time must be a gigantic bright blue hue again someone needs to get strangled.
>>724685760It lost it's relevance because of nuHalo's inability to be fun or good in the first place. It very likely would still be a popular franchise if 343 had not made fuck up after fuck up after fuck up. Hell, xbox itself might still be a real brand if halo had not fucked up constantly. But it did and here we are. Frankly the only real way the franchise could ever recover even in a niche sense is if microsoft shuttered 343/halo studios and just licensed the property out like a whore. I'm sure most of what would result would be shit, but there would probably be a few decent games too.
>>724683318physics
>>724683656Wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU1vH4ZeSMM
>>724683318it just felt magical playing it back then and even replaying now in 4k. it fucking still looks sexy and its 24 years old. if you barely started playing it now yeah you'll say its overrated since gaming has evolved or devolved in someways since 2001.halo 2 looks fugly
When you walk out that tunnel on Two Betrayals and Under Cover of Night starts playing and you're just in the midst of this huge epic three way battle. You're all alone, the fate of the universe rests on your shoulders, against insurmountable odds. Halo is just so grand and heroic feeling.
I just want to point out if you're talking about it microsoft's marketing team has already won.
retarded millennials hyping shit
>>724683318The fact that you are a mixed-up mystery meat Amerifat and never had a PC as a kid.
>>724686141>>724686063>>724686061yo
>>724686061That only holds true if you actually buy it. The days off all press being good press are past.
>>724685925It lost relevance because it got its ass kicked by Call of Duty. Halo was never a good series, it was always a shitty casual piece of shit made for dudebro trash hicks who couldn't play a real video game if it hit them in the face. The moment something more casual, realistic, and an important one, modern, not futuristic sci-fi, came in, it was over. This shit started with Bungie, you 3babies will not memory hole your shitty series starting to lose relevance right around 2007. It died during 343 because they thought Halo could still take on COD instead of Halo doing something for itself thus it's decline continued. This is why they went with a new direction after Infinite. Series died in 2007, not 2021. It just took Microsoft, 343, and the retarded Halo community until Infinite bombing before they finally realized that. Bungie realized that in 2004 and were ready to jump ship to Destiny. And no, Xbox was never going to be a brand, Xbox's success only exist because Sony fucked up on the PS3 price, it was never any real form of competition and Sony fixing their pricing proved that. Xbox was never relevant no matter how hard Xbots here in the US try to shill it as such.
>>724683318vision, tight execution, excellent scenario design (inb4 hurr durr the library), multi-console lan multiplayer, customization, replayability, attention to small details like cursor placement or the motion tracker functionality or the enemy behavior trees across difficulties, pacing, someone who actually studied light and set design, devs making what they want to play, and a million other details that will never be present in any videogame made after the year 2010. any more dumb fucking questions?
>>724683656>pretentious overproduced musicthe xiv thread is that way
>>724686141I had a PC, but it was for HoMM3, Incoming, and eventually Morrowind. I didn't play shooters on it outside of Doom.>>724686210That's part of it, but the thing is CoD gave CoDfags more of what they wanted consistently. I never liked the franchise myself but it was at least consistent. Halo stopped giving Halofags what they wanted so it died. It's that simple.
>>724686302>I had a PC, but it was for HoMM3, Incoming, and eventually Morrowind. I didn't play shooters on it outside of Doom.You should have played RtCW.
>>724686210>This is why they went with a new direction after Infinite.
>>724686302>That's part of it, but the thing is CoD gave CoDfags more of what they wanted consistently. I never liked the franchise myself but it was at least consistent. Halo stopped giving Halofags what they wanted so it died. It's that simple.Even Bungie realized Halo was on borrowed time and I mean the dated slow ass gameplay from 2001-2007, didn't matter if they gave them what they wanted, series dying was set in stone. Counter Strike proved that people wanted modern shooters, sprint or not, people didn't want unrealistic stylized sci-fi shooters like Halo, if something casual came (it did) Halo was dead (it died). Halo can't compete anymore, it can only survive as a Master Chief singleplayer game about him going on different adventures with the Halo sandbox gameplay. Anything beyond that will be a disaster (a preview for that multiplayer-only Halo game coming in 2027).
>>724683318I replayed halo some time ago and I've come to realize that Halo 1 was never that good. literally second half of the game is just backtracking all of the first half's levels
>>724686485Bungie didn't realize it was on borrowed time. They simply wanted the series to have a definitive end. The only reason ODST and Reach even got made was because they were still on contract for two more games after 3. It wasn't meant to be a forever franchise.
The narrative of Halo always being bad but a remake of said permabad franchise will sell gangbusters because of single player (for a franchise that was always bad) is certainly a fresh take
>What made Halo special?You had to be there.
>>724686362They split off the campaigns and multiplayer into their own games, they're having third parties make both, they took some code from blam! and slapped it into UE5 to build a foundation for Halo going forward for faster releases, they're no longer going compete with other shooters, those days are over, thankfully.
>>724686573Bungie didn't even want to make Halo 3 and it showed, they changed up the entire gameplay of Halo with Reach before they left. Halo was dead and Bungie knew it was just lightning in a bottle, nothing more. Halo 3 was also a contract game, btw.
>>724683732>If we compare it to PC shooters it's nothing special, but remember prior to it the peak of console shooters were golden eye and perfect dark.Doom64, Duke Nukem 64, and Turok 2 and Rage Wars all played admirably. For shooters in general, Syphon Filter and Winback both were high watermarks for that gen. Why do zoomers speak authoritatively about shit they didn't experience?
>>724686489The experience is still different enough even if you're traversing the same areas. Truth and Reconciliation and Keyes play nothing alike. The Maw has an entire 2nd half to the level that isn't even accessible in the Pillar of Autumn.
They should have never messed up the golden triangle of combat. Once they felt they needed another element to the gameplay things got ruined. Not sure why they feel these games need sprint so much.
>>724686720>they're no longer going compete with other shootersMakes sense, you can't compete when you don't even have a target audience at all
>>724686890Be nice, Xbots only had that shitty series of games to play, most of them weren't real gamers and only played this shit despite other consoles and PC having better games. Halo was always overrated. It losing its popularity was a well-deserved fate.
>>724686825>Bungie didn't even want to make Halo 3 and it showedThe leads didn't want to, between crunch time hell on 2 and Microsoft contracts/work ethics. That's why they expanded Bungie a fair bit to handle itself better and fucked off. Halo 3 was literally a made-by-committee game to finish the fight, but at least what did remain of 3's team generally wanted to be there.
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>>724683318
>>724686917I just think it really doesn't stand the test of time, unlike many other "old" games from that time
>>724687091no cap halo clunky af, bo7 looks fire af, movement = king gameplay
>>724683318Nothing, only consolefag zoomers liked this slop.PCgods made fun of shit level design and combat at the time.Half-life, Blood, Deus Ex, Duke Nukem 3d, swat 3, rainbow six, delta force were all infinitely better.No wonder both 343 and bungie never made any good games, and Halo is fucking dead and killed entire MS vidya division.
>>724687107The Halo series, in general, was pretty dated when they released in 2001-2007. Series dumbed down gaming when it seemed like there was no stopping its advancement.
>bruh>halo is crazy
The visuals of what we've seen so far tells me that this remake is going to be a gigantic clusterfuck, I have no idea who it's trying to appeal to>Bungiefags won't care>From Halo 4 to Infinite, Halo has only been sharply losing relevance to the point that moving to Playstation isn't even a genuine landmark event>Younger audiences don't care because it's an archaic franchise hy now>CE has the most barebones story, weapon sandbox, etc. of the series>With all the visual fuckery, story beats like the Flood reveal is going to be janky as fuckThis shit is going to be prime steamcharts shitpsoting material
>>724686973each game of the trilogy revolutionized gaming>halo 1every fps after aped its controls>halo 2popularized online multiplayer>halo 3was a cultural sensation on the level of pokemania, nothing on its level has been seen since. the last hoorah before the precipitous decline of the entire gaming industry. halo 3 was the climax of gaming. everything before it was building up to it, everything after it has been soulless
>>724687107I do
>>724687171There was better games on PC, PS2, Xbox, GameCube, and Game Boy Advance and still to this day, I do not understand how Halo became so popular. It sucked. It was the most generic game that existed, that includes its story as well.
gaylo session after skateboarding
>>724687171>consolefag zoomers
>>724687171>Half-life, Blood, Deus Ex, Duke Nukem 3d, swat 3, rainbow six, delta force were all infinitely better.Reddit pseud shit no one actually played at that time
>>724687107Test of time is a meme.Games don't age, you do.
>>724687171This. It was a polished fps version for the console. PC were expensive back then, doing lan parties needed preparation, where as xbox, you could just bring your console to your friends house. Going from Goldeneye and Medal of Honor to Halo was a big step up in graphics.
>>724687171Halo is way better than those games
>>724687171>consolefag zoomers>PCgodslisten to yourself lol
>>724687293>i hate white peoplepost nose
>>724687202New Halo fans and new players on PC, PlayStation, and Nintendo>Bungiefags won't careThey're no longer appealing to them>From Halo 4 to Infinite, Halo has only been sharply losing relevance to the point that moving to Playstation isn't even a genuine landmark eventThey moved on from those>Younger audiences don't care because it's an archaic franchise hy nowDon't know, kids seem to love dressing as the Master Chief for Halloween>CE has the most barebones story, weapon sandbox, etc. of the seriesNo one cares about the story of a video game but they'll have updated lore and weapons from later games of the series in there>With all the visual fuckery, story beats like the Flood reveal is going to be janky as fuckThey can't recreate that but they can expand on their lore. Bungiefags no longer exist, they're getting replaced by new fans who aren't multiplayer junkies.
>>724687248when's the last time you actually played halo 1. it's really not as good as you remember it
>>724687214>each game of the trilogy casualized gamingFixed
>>724687526Just now and yes it is
>>724687489yeah i can already see the panicked sweating over the ensuing steamcharts flatlining kekaroo
>>724687538>muh narrative based criticslop is le hardcoreOK BK. you got stomped on halo online and you're coping
>>724683318Extremely dumbed down science fiction setting for the dumbest of people to understand.
>>724687606Halofags are an ecochamber, if anything, your insistent bitching will make everyone play it.
>>724687489>Don't know, kids seem to love dressing as the Master Chief for Halloweeni think due to the fact that being a skin in fortnite has brought more relevance to this franchise towards kids than their actual modern games
>>724685302>The campaign had a very solid first act, but got more and more mediocre as it went along.Yeah this revisionist. The snow level has repetitive indoor sections, but that's when the game lets loose on high enemy counts and vehicle porn. Everyone "hates" the library, but without it the flood would be completely forgettable instead of the survival horror switch it needed to be. It's also an excellent level in co-op and genuinely fun to be pressured with a friend. Even the reused levels at the end of the game are heavily re-contextualized by the flood, but only the snow level is actually good for this. I hope the last two levels see a lot of changes.
>>724687657You Halofags would get melted in PC MP shooters.
>>724687681>settingwho gives a fuvk. redditor nigger.
I know people already draw a lot of similarities between the Dreamcast and Xbox, but this shill idea of Halo supposedly finding a newer and wider audience out of thin air feels extremely Sonic-esque
>>724687746game two million people are playing is more competitive than game two people are playing. simple as.
>>724687681Bungie's lore sucked and bored the shit out of me on replaythroughs. 343/HaloStudios has better lore but Halo 4-Infinite suck ass
>>724687780>I know people already draw a lot of similarities between the Dreamcast and Xbox, but this shill idea of Halo supposedly finding a newer and wider audience out of thin air feels extremely Sonic-esqueHalo will never be popular againIt peaked with Halo 2/3 until CoD4 released
>Halo was never relevant outside of the US>The marketing budget of Halo 2 was greater than its development budgetHalo 2 and Half Life 2 are the early examples of slops shoved down people's throats through massive marketing and hype.Nice legacy.Now it's up to a Playstation console to save the franchise.
>>724687748>omg mom look at this gameplay, I can only put the square trough the square hole and the cow makes moo when I press here
>>724687681Why you'd be pretentiously contrarian like this about a video game like halo I have no idea lmao
>>724685924wow they massacred that level. I bet they are going to add a bunch of bushes too because its not allowed to be an arid environment
>>724687818I mean I'm talking about this guy >>724687489 over here, I have no idea why he's convinced that the remake is going to suddenly turn heads
>>724687805>343 lore is better than Bungie but 343's lore also sucks ass
It came with the console when you mommy bought it for you.
>>724687917CEA was pretty ugly in general. And CaE is gonna totally go for UE5 realism over alien surrealism.
>>724687887brown refugee hands in Europe typed this post>>724687893>hurrdurr gameplay is le bad flavor text is le deep xDD
I haven't played a single halo game in 35 yearst. pcfag
>>724687975I bought it myself because I was 23 at the time and doing my bachelors and it was pure fun with my roomate christcuck.
>>724687914You just realized it's the truth and that somehow made you emotional. I understand.
>>724688048Fucking christ what are you now like 80
>>724688039You whould experience it once to understand why people call it gaylo and babby's first fps. It is embarrassing that adults would confess to liking it really.
>>724688075anon do the fucking math, he's 47
>>724687989>The AR went from 60 rounds to 32 roundsY'know, I feel like I should be more upset at this as a former Halofag, but the gameplay is shaping up to be such a steaming pile of shit that I'm preemptively getting a sense of schadenfreude from it
only one man can save Halo
>>724687736When Campaign Evolved comes to Switch 2, Master Chief may be guaranteed for Smash 6.
>>724683318>autoaim so that console zoom zooms could hit shit>regenerating health so that console zoom zooms could cower in fear behind a wall and wait instead of facing their problems in lifethat's about it desu
>>724687940Halo current job isn't to become popular again, it's to replace the 3babies who don't want to fuck off.
>>724688129I mean, do you like Halo Reach? Do you like Halo Reach being made to play a bit more like Halo Infinite? Then fundamentally it's going to be more of that mangled onto Combat Evolved's framework with new shit on top. If you hated Halo Reach for its gameplay, AI changes, etc, all that shit is here currently because they outright built CaE on top of Reach code. Same quirks and everything. And go figure, the Assault Rifle is the shittiest gun in the game right now, relying way too much on needing headshots.
>>724688052nah it's an obviously all style opera fps series so to me someone being smug about it not being 'smart' is like being smug that 'Star Wars' is dumb too like duh lmao
>>724687940It's because he's a consolewarfag, and consolewarfags use consoles as bootleg religion for even stupider people
>>724688172>every pczoomer likes to larp as an oldfag>they never realize that pc had nogamez back then
>>724683318Mostly white dev team with a passion
>>724688206>it's to replace the 3babies who don't want to fuck off.And how's that worked for you for three games now? Maybe, just maybe, it turns out the actual autistic Halo fans that never shut the fuck up are actually the only people that still remain because no one else cares?
>>724686890Nigga I was there, Turok was cool but don't try to pretend it had the same level of prestige as rare's shooters. And the others weren't big in the first place.
>>724687989Are they using AI to generate the structures? Also look at the rust from the ocean being missing from both Halo Anniversary and the new remake.
>>724688129how much do we actually know about gameplay changes in general?
>>724683318That one game splitscreen, lanable game that everybody played. On the 'box, that is.
>>724683318I've asked myself this numerous times. As an old fuck, I never got an xbox and went down the playstation route with RPGs. Halo never looked cool to me and it feels like I missed some culture moment for gamers since I still have yet to play them. It seemed like it was something for normalfags in the end though, so I avoided it.
>>724688345>passionLol. It's literally just Microsoft's free game for the xbox. Bungie had already sold out. It is slop.
>>724683318We were kids
>>724683318>change of millenia>"Ringu">"Lord of the Rings">"Halo"You had to be there
>>724686890Boomer #724686890 that's still salty about not getting GE/PD lmao. Nobody gave a shit about your hand me down FPS. Syphon Filter is fine, nobody played winback shut the fuck up
>>724688516if you werent a part of the craze playing through it alone now is not the same. everybody in america played halo. all the neighborhood kids, all the kids from class, everyone. the social aspect was strongyou could just be like "whats your gamertag bro" and then the next thing you knew you were friends for years
>>724683318It was the first game to use the right stick to aim the cursor in real time
>>724688452probably missing some stuff>Sprint from halo 5, animations and all, moves faster than infinite; can be disabled, levels may not need it, making it entirely superfluous>smartscope like 343 Halo games, no de-scope on damage, mostly pointless but it does mean the Magnum can just keep sniping>classic hud layout for motion sensor and guns/grenades, but not the shield bar>hitmarkers and reticle bloom>Reach Blam code figured into UE5, all the same AI of Reach so far, though enemies have been rebalanced here and there>Assault Rifle is 32 rounds like every AR post-CE, Magnum is grossly overpowered against everything but the Hunters, Needler is a supercombine beast, SPNKR can missile track vehicles and destroy Phantom turrets, can trade weapons off to AI and their SPNKR do infantry tracking>Vehicles have health independent of the driver like later games, so they can blow up before the driver dies; hijacking is here too>4th seat on the bumper of the Warthog because this will have 4 player online co-op, 2 player local co-op>there will be new weapons, like the Battle Rifle, Needle Rifle, Energy Sword, Fuel Rod Cannon>Flood encounters and the Library are supposedly being reworked heavily, presumably to play like later games; they were modeling a Flood Pure Form for their advertising stuff>"more skulls than ever before", including supposed randomizers to seriously mix up replay value with unpredictable outcomes, or so the store page claims>3 prequel missions before CE or Reach, a storyboard showed The Package-era Mark IV Chief with Sgt. Johnson as these two are the focal point of these missionscan't really recall anything beyond that
What's with the recent halo announcement bringing out the most retarded discourse imaginable
you were a tiny figure in a giant space operai wish we had more games like it.
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>>724683318Lan multiplayer. Few people had decent or any internet access, but many had Xboxes.
>>724688659I was a weird loner, so I just stuck to RPGs and survival horror.
>>724688698God why are they so fucking awfulIt's honestly mind boggling that Microshaft with the money and power it has can't make a single fucking decent Halo game, and better yet can't even slap pretty graphics on their golden goose without fucking ruining it
>>724688452Really makes me wonder how much this shit would fly in the current year if it were brought over today. My guess is not well at all. I wonder what the sweet spot for fov is for such a game. I also wonder what the sweet spot for movement speed would be if they were to have remade this game but with no sprinting allowed. Can't go too slow obviously but then if its too fast you just have the typical arena shooter shit and that isn't Halo.
>>724688738The first good game*
>>724687171>Half-life, Blood, Deus Ex, Duke Nukem 3d, swat 3, rainbow six, delta force were all infinitely better.all mogged by halo's art/design style>WOAH IS THAT ANOTHER GRUNGY HALLWAY/ALLEY TO WALK DOWN???
>>724688837chads and normies played halo and cod, incels played games like that. i played normie shit and jrgps tho
>>724688738Is there a single documented case in all of video games of someone being this wrong? I mean that's not a forum user. Gamespot was a major publication. I think the journalist that got beat by a bird in the cuphead tutorial didn't fuck up this badly. Imagine criticizing an obvious adaptation of PC-like controls that would make FPS the dominant genre for several hardware generations
>>724685924This shows how tone def these demakers are. You could complain to them all you want but too many of them saw the original level and thought nah this is ugly dark bullshit it needs to be all bright and pretty with a gloomy blue hue to the atmosphere. Yeah gamers will totally love out demake....
>>724688867Turns out when you go out of your way to hire people who hate halo and then make them work on halo they won't make good halo. Who knew?
>>724688893Depends on your distance from the screen>Living room/more than a meter50-70>Monitor/less than a meter80-110
>>724688971its a horror game. i think they're praising it
>>724683318one of the most impressive console gamesit blew so much shit out of the water, especially the movement, aim, gunplay etc.
>>724684364HOLY FUCKING BASEDJaime is one best motherfucker for name dropping frankie
>>724683318it came out on a non-nintendo console
I don't get how people can dismiss halo 2s story as being mid, go rewatch halo 2 movie on YouTube with the updated graphics, the plot, characters and vocal tonality are all top tier.Name me 3 video games from the last 10 years with as engaging writting.
>>724683318All white community made it good. No censorship made it good. No sbmm made it good.
>>724683318It made me actually fuming angry at the time thought the entire premise was stupid your telling me aliens not only exist but do crazy lonely toons soundsLooking back at those long gone middle school days it's hilarious just how much changed from the 2nd entry onwards
>>724689035I don't play modern shooters. What is typically the fov used for a modern console shooter? Like say the latest COD or BF6? Are they really as low as what Halo used to be?
>>724689227>but do crazy lonely toons soundsThis was a huge part of the appeal of these games and why they remained so memorable.
>>724687791So what you're saying is that Fortnite is way more hardcore than Halo.
>>724688923What's bad about it? Quake 2 on the PS1 allowed right-stick aim.
>>724689134it's kind of funny seeing like a week or two ago someone claiming "no way could they just insert the terminals in there with no one noticing, Bungie had to pass off on them starting the seeds of the whole humanity-forerunner split and new series lore", and then Jaime getting angry at the remake just has him outright admit that Frankie and "proto-343" straight up snuck that shit in past the actual game designers and rest of the folks.
They're saving Halo. Trust them.
>>724687946lore doesn't equal games
>>724683318>What made Halo special?The marines. Nothing makes you feel like a badass than having a bunch of allies follow you around ahd shoot shit up. Halo is at it's best when you got a large squad of marines by your side, a bunch of vehicles and the open road ahead.
>>724689194It's not mid it actually sucks. Here are my major complaints1) Everything about the covenant is revealed in early cutscenes, their society, their hierarchy, the big bads, all of it. They speak english to each other. There's no mystery to anything anymore.2) The prophets, the main covenant villains, are written to be idiots until the very end, not just pretending to be idiots. They are completely unintimidating. They are also boss fights where you jump on one and punch it in a chair. I still don't know if this a joke.3) The arbiter is a good character but you play as him before you even give a shit about him. He should've been built up from chief's perspective. Then when you get to play as the arbiter it's actual pay off and fan service like "holy shit I'm actually playing as the mothefucking arbiter" instead of "uhhh I'm playing as this arbiter dude guy I guess".4) The same way you learn everything about the covenant instantly, the flood is controlled by a single character called the gravemind that speaks english and you basically learn everything he's about very quickly too. I mean you already knew the flood wanted to survive and take over everything so nothing really changes. But now the flood is intelligent and can be negotiate with so they are no longer unstoppable horror entities. We already had an intelligent enemy subject to diplomacy, it was called the covenant.5) Brutes are introduced. They are like elites but dumb and not cool.Do you see the pattern? In halo 1 the entire convenant follows rule of cool, Then the elites become the anti heroes and anything new introduced to the covenant is a deliberately unlikeable antagonist.
>>724688372Infinite was supposed to do that with PC but those retards that got fired at 343 fucked it all up.
>>724689258Google it fag
>>724688345That passion was eroded when most of Halo CE had to be gutted when it was taken off PC and Mac and had to work on Xbox.
>>724688332>im gonna try to play le reviosionism history meme card even though the internet recorded everything and is readily avaiable to confirm such claimsyou are kinda pathetic tbqdesu fampai!
>>724688698>>Sprint from halo 5, animations and all, moves faster than infinite; can be disabled, levels may not need it, making it entirely superfluousIt and ADS can be disabled but only by a skull, lol
>>724683318High IQ white men with a large budget and time
>>724688738Why did Halo get pushed over other games that had already did what it did before it even released?
>>724683694Fuck you voodoo vince was cool and the ost was amazing
>>724683318Played through AOTC with my nephew today. He's 4. His favorite weapons are the Needler, the Plasma Pistol and the Shotgun. This is on original hardware. He thinks Johnson is funny and always wants to make sure the marines live.
Made for white men by white men
>>724683694>It was the only thing to actually play on your Xbox.ehh i dont know about thathttps://www.mobygames.com/group/12368/launch-title-xbox-north-america/
>>724687917I don't mind more foliage, but that blue fucking shit and bright lights everywhere is just fucking shit compared to the actual darkness of the og level .
>>724683318A lack of competition
>>724683318The most normalfag game around.
>>724690294god i miss when nighttime levels in video games looked like this
>>724683318you being 12 >>724686063
>>724690294>>724690359If you can you should play halo VR, the vibe on this level is insane and it's one of my favorites now when that absolutely was not the case for me back in the day.
>>724686210>ass kicked by cod>describes codNigga, you gotta update whatever llm you're using, it's mixing up it's shit hard.
>>724690423god seeing vids of it make me sad i dont have a vr setup, poorfagging is hard these days
>>724683318It was baby's first fps
>>724686210Can you just tell the truth without unnecessary lies and salt. Halo was good and 3 games dominated the market until time ran out because as you said, dudebros didn't care about sci-fi, but it was still the best dudebro flavored game at the time.I've never listened to the obvious fox and grapes calling this game "casual" from PC players, or whatever corner you came from. But if anyone needed proof this line of attack is full of shit, "hardcore" PC players got filtered by doom eternal and no one should ever forget it.
>>724685919Unfortunately, I have a feeling that this game will be relatively inexpensive because of how many halo infinite assets there reskinning.
>>724690447Halo 3 was having a hard time with COD4 and CODWAW around 2007 and 2008, it finally lost its dominance to CODMW2 and never gained it back.
>>724690747What lie, COD was taking its audience from 2007-2009 until it finally took the number 1 spot on Xbox and Halo never recovered from it. Halo really got dominated outside of Xbox because it was an exclusive to Xbox while COD was a multiplatform series.
>>724690834You're just repeating things that aren't in dispute.
>>724683318It was special in the way that your parents call you special
>>724690834Wait so now halo lost to cod because it was a Xbox exclusive or because it stopped giving people what they wanted?
>>724686210>>724686485Isn’t call of duty slowly becoming more sci fi ? With the exo suits drones and spaceships?
>>724690834>Halo really got dominated outside of Xbox because it was an exclusive to Xbox while COD was a multiplatform series.This makes sense why so many people never even seen Halo gameplay. I remember 2000s and I have never met a person with an XBOX. Other than the photos in magazines I didn't even know how it looks like. Before Xbox 360 its global reach was very limited. But I did have PS2.
>>724691167it sounds like you really need to specify which country you are in, this was absolutely not the case in the united states. You would see it at the video game store even if you never got to play it.
>>724691037I'm not the one who said it died because it didn't give people what it wanted. I said it died because its time was up and COD took over it.>>724691163I guess, I don't keep up with it.
>>724683694There was also Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive. Those were also exclusives, for a while.
>>724683318It had a great atmosphere and tolerable gameplay. That's all it takes to get popular. See a list of top 100 most popular games and most of what you'll see there will not have great gameplay but it sure will have great vibes.
>>724689730larping zoomer exposed
>>724690747>"hardcore" PC players got filtered by doom eternalWhat are these hallucinations? At no point in the Eternal shitfest threads did anybody ever bring up what they were playing on.
>>724691915>he doesn't know all the good games that were on PCTragic
>>724691864the online matchmaking was superb in halo 2 and 3. gameplay was amazing. halo 1 was vibes based but the rest of the trilogy is carried by gameplay
>>724691957there were fewer. consolefags were eating better than pcfags before the ps4. the only reason pcfags are getting games now is because the ps4 and series s is still getting games. might as well port it to pc if you're gonna make it cross generational
Halo Campaign Evolved is the new Nintendo, so I'm heavily expecting it to be very successful. People are getting tired of grifting, trend chasing eceleb closet faggots telling them what to do. Wouldn't be surprised if one day we find out one of those ecelebs got randomly punched in the face for being annoying.
I'm playing halo ce for the first time right now and it's gotta be the worst level design I've ever seen. by far the most retarded shit was having to run through the exact same copypasted rooms in the assault on the control center just to backtrack through them later.
>>724692523That's literally the very intro m8,it gets better right after that trust me
halo 1 was goated if you had friends. all about coop legendary and 16 player lans
>>724683318I went from golden eye/perfect dark to halo and it felt like a massive leap. half-life 2 came out soon after which was also good but halo had better multiplayer. there were other good fps games too but but yeah...
>>724683318just take a look at the absolute jank that existed around the time it came out and you will understand
>>724687171and then every single PC FPS changed to mimic halo creating a distinct era of boomer shooters and modern FPS games
>>724683694>Otogi>the two Kingdom Under Fire games>Ghost Master>Ninja Gaiden>Kung Fu ChaosThe XBOX HUEG was alright
I replayed CE this week and the ambience is unbelievable. There were multiple areas on Silent Cartographer where I just turned the volume up and sat there for a while.
>Campaign Evolvedsuch a retarded name. Can we all agree to start calling this Halo Camp?
>>724697434Why didn't they name this Combat REvolved? I was literally coining that name for a while.
>>724683318It was the first good fps on a console. It had great controls and a good framerate.
>>724683656>overproduced>literally basic ass MIDIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_lGYVlcx_I&list=PLE247806E68BCF2AC&index=10
>>724687489You're fucked.
>>724683318idk
Remember when games would come with a campaign, online multiplayer, split screen coop and death matches? Hell some would throw in a racing game just for shits and giggles.
>>724683318When you first saw Halo, were you paralized by it?
>>724697676>ignores GoldeneyeI'm gonna let this slide because you had drivable vehicles with turrets.
>>724683318the average age of its players
>>724700675what the fuck is this
>>724684364>Proto-343 aka FrankieDANGEROUSLY BASED
>>724684364>C3 was 100% absolutely correct in this investigation that Frankie wrote the shit terminals soloUnbelievable, https://youtu.be/_P-uOCKDTAA?si=oiU25D6e1y9R8b7A
>>724688931Crazy how Deus Ex, a patrician game, makes Halo feels even worse and generic than it actually.I'm glad that Deus Ex (Game of the Century) is available for PS2 and that many more people had the opportunity to experience it back then.
>>724701732>than it actually is.
>>724683318>Babby's first FPS is now remembered as a revolutionary masterpiece.Just like /v/ predicted.Grim...
>halo>a multimillion dollars product>mogged by pic relatedgaylos bros... how do we cope?
>>724685570Which anime specifically?I got some Major vibes from Cortana, and the ships / 343 Guilty Spark are 100% The Culture (not anime but whatever)
>>724683318Real OG here: Halo was the first console fps that really worked. Golden eye and shit like timesplitter had extreme auto aim to make it work. Halo had a form of auto aim, but it was the first to do the slowdown when you were near a target etc. So it felt like you were really playing a real fps with some real skill involved. Yes, I know, its not Quake multi tier, but it made consoles a real place for FPS to be.
>>724702534This. Console fps sucked until 6th gen.
>>724702060Counter Strike is slow 2 weapon limit slop. It doesn't compare.
>>724683318Halo Custom Edition. Yoyorast Island. Home.
>>724702060343i is pretty talented for tanking Halo so fucking hard despite all the money and time they could've wanted.
>>724683318It was fun. Good music. I think they're overrated personally and I grew up with them, but they were fun. Lore was always stupid though
>>724685605Fucking hell Halo was so good. Still is, I'm playing a modded session with the boys this weekend.
>>724683318it was goodgood soundgood musicgood gameplay and gunplaygood movementgood story and enemy designit felt unique even though it wasntit also didnt feel like a clone of another game.and it had really fun multiplayer.and it was extremely accessable to just about anyone.it wasnt some niche pc game that you had to be a fat loser to know about.frat bros and nerds were interested.it wasnt the best at anythingbut it was good at everything.oh and it was the right game at the right time.
>>724683318Gunplay is satisfying and designed with a controller in mind, level design is good, lots of variety of weapons and vehicles, looked and ran great for its time, intriguing story, incredible music, perfect amount of seriousness and goofy, fun characters like Master Chief, Cortana and Sgt Johnson, and many other reasons.It's the best 6th gen shooter, simple as.
>>724683318Fun vehicles is ultimately what it did better than pretty much any other game at the time.
>>724685924
>>724683318All these years later and driving a warthog and sticking someone with a plasma nade are just as fun as the first time
>>724684364Its crazy to me how fast and easily one guy completely ruined an entire flagship franchise for Xbox.I sometimes think to myself how the newest Halo's multiplayer is fucking free and nobody wants to play it because Halo has fallen so far and it sucks dick. How did Frankie do it anons? Why did he hate and destroy this shit I grew up with?
>>724683318Memorable characters, fun gameplay and a combination of solid MP and SP, the latter being an especially lost art.
>>724704409this is why we have to make fun of jannies
>>724686063Quake and Unreal are dead you dumb faggot, get over it.
>>724704747And Halo is alive?
>>724704409I remember him posting on bungie.net and he was always very smarmy
>>724683318>slowslop
>>724704896>puts game on easy to play as the canon Master ChiefBased
>>724683318You were younger. Also, Flood and cute funny Grunts.
>>724686485Fortnite & Overwatch prove you wrong.
343 faggots keep trying to devalue the game because this is the only way they can make the remake seem appealing.
>>724683318Big budget. They already had a world and aesthetic planned out fairly well before starting the franchise. Fairly good directors. Mostly it was able to get the 'cinematic shooter' concept down right before anyone else did. It was there the firstest with the mostest. These days basically people have caught up and it isn't that special anymore.
>>724686890Doom64 and Duke64 were both basically retro the moment they came out. No one was impressed with a sprite based hand-me down weird mix of a port and a new game in an era where 3D graphics were the hot stuff.
>>724704187kek, it's actually butchered
>>724683971All Golden Age Bungie games had that weird mix of tones.
>>724683318Soul
>>724702784but enough about gaylo
>>724684396Shooters have been casual since DOOM.
>>724704409>Franker "The Franchise Tanker" O'ConnorGot a nice ring to it, dont'cha think?
>>724686210>real video game>dude who shills arenaslop like quakePlay a real FPS with some effort put into the world and map design one of these days.
>>724686485>Counter Strike proved that people wanted modern shooters, sprint or not, people didn't want unrealistic stylized sci-fi shooters like Halo, if something casual came (it did) Halo was dead (it died).Apex, Warframe, even Destiny for a decade, demonstrates that people like sci-fi shooters a lot.
>>724700087Goldeneye is shit and runs like shit. Perfect Dark is significantly better but also suffers from performance.
>>724685609You cant actually believe this. It hasn't lost relevance just because you dont like it.
>>724697676It's crazy to me how many other FPS games there are on the OG Xbox that not only play worse, but run worse. Not following Halo's example at all.
>>724683318smoke and mirrors, the actual gameplay turned sour the moment they decided to copypaste the first five levels for the second half. great "game"
>>724708192Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are 90% the same.
>>724689440>good gameQuake is slop
>>724708293PD has better level design and guns.
>>724708221It lost a lot of relevance because they released completely dogshit games for over a decade and haven't engendered a new era of fans. Tons of people have now grown up without Halo MP ever being anything close to a dominant force, and the campaigns have been a schizophrenic mess that makes the Star Wars sequel trilogy look well managed.
>>724688971I get it. For someone that is inexperienced, controlling two analog sticks at once is asking for a lot of motor skills. The older style of either turning or strafing with the shoulder buttons is clunkier, but also requires less fine motor skills at any given moment.
>>724683318Play perfect dark on your n64 for a summer straight then wander into gamestop and see a guy with an assault rifle and working flashlight walk around. This wasnt as big of a jump for me like the NES to N64 was, but it was still insane for the time
>>724687171Deus Ex is a cute visual novel but a dogshit shooter. Destroying the importance player skill in aiming for the sake RPG funny money stat investment is retarded and is another sign that RPGfags hate any game that requires mechanical skill that they can't just grind stats to beat.
so would you live on an orbital if you had the chance?
>>724683656This is a great song. I don't care if I'm wrong and everyone else is right. This is a great song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePLDO68lcA4
>>724688931Lets not pretend that Halo didn't have its share of corridor slop. What was the library level then?
>>724708450It's funny because living through it there were indeed a lot of people that got filtered by the rise of 3D and 3D controls. It's not remembered much I guess, but in general lots of the old guard at the time really struggled with the change in complexity. Especially since the designers were still just as in the dark about good 3D design and controls, too.
>>724708635Very wide spaces with various tactical avenues
>>724702060Garbage for Russians and other thirdie poorfags to dump 20% of their lifespan into.
>>724708571gives me *CRAWLING IN MY SKIN* vibes desu
>>724687989Which version is the first pic from? I wanna replay halo 1-3, so which versions should I avoid to get the original SOVL graphics experience?
>>724708557Of course. I would also demand as my right as a culture citizen to be turned into a Mind. Afterwhich I’d immediately sublime.
>>724702060god pc gaming was so good back then. Starcraft 1, Quake, CS, WC3, Diablo 2... What wasn't to love. It was a golden age for everyone
>>724685302I know everyone hates The Library but I genuinely think Keyes is just as bad. Two Betrayals is kino though.
>>724683318SOVL
>>724708886based, but instead of a Mind I would ask to just become a little school girl with fat tits and do cool missions for SC between surfing trips on my home orbital
I think it's really funny that Campaign Evolved is going up against MW4 and GTA VI next year.
We shit on it now, but in 2001 it had many innovative elements(not necessarily first game with them, but few games had those): vehicles with physics, grenade on separate key, regenerating shield, allies, enemies with decent AI. And even today world building and enemy design look more interesting than generic military shooter. By the way, was Halo first FPS with regenerating shield?
>>724709235kinda sad when you consider halo 1 and 2 would have been going up against the same things back in the day
>>724708450Actually I think the problem was experience, older console players could at least say they were adapted to older control schemes that had moving forward/backward and rotating on the same input. My friend played rare shooters a lot and he would use the legacy profile in halo. I played the game at 13 or so, I also played goldeneye just not much, but I never even thought about the controls. I just played the game. It didn't even occur to me that anything was different about the controls for console. Maybe its because I played quake 3 arena demo a lot and I knew what was going on
>>724709321I was going to say that unreal tournament 2004 had vehicle physics but halo preceded it by three years! That's crazy. Not sure if the earlier unreal games had vehicles or not too
>>724707640I look at the picture on the left and I'm instantly convinced that could be a real life picture of silent cartographer
>>724697681Was halo 3 real instrumentation or midi?
>>724709321The amount of soul in little things like plasma nading elites that rush you to take you out vs. plebs that run in panic is still pretty cool.
>>724689194>go rewatch halo 2 movie on YouTube with the updated graphicsYou just like the shiny CGI, the story is still dogshit
>>724704187why do modern sloppas love covering the atmosphere with blue/green gas
>>724710441atmosphere I suppose
>>724685570>Made by anime loving nerds>Aimed at dudebros and became a huge hit among themSo, Halo was the revenge all along...
>>724683318>Special The players! HOOHOHOHOHO
>>724710578I wouldn't say it was targeting dudebros, they weren't playing vidya in 2001 anon
>>724710441Old has gas too, but its more subdued and looks natural as a result.
>>724685570There is not much anime in Halo.
>>724710686that's not gas then retard, just atmosphere, the remake looks like a blue silent hill fog
>>724710761fog is literally just water in a gaseous form
>>724710714Apart from every design being made by an anime artist
>>724710829Shut the fuck up retard
>>724710926lol i'm just saying anon
>>724710829No, it literally isn't lmao. It's liquid water particles being carried by the air.
>>724710854That is a Chinese name and the guy went to school in America. >https://gamecritics.com/brad-gallaway/interview-with-halo-3-lead-3d-artist-shi-kai-wang/
>>724711006you can't even tell that the plant right in front of you is green, that is not fog, it's man made anti-soul gas
>>724711039ok nigger why isn't there fog over the ocean then
>>724711073you were invsible so they can't even see you teabagging anon
>>724711108>why isn't there fog over the ocean then???
>>724711108There is????Are you mentally fucking retarded? It's one of the most well-known impediments to a successful seafare.
>>724711206idk at this point I'm just shit posting, you're right that fog isn't a gas
>>724683318It was a cool adventure game with sandbox freedom
>>724711089it's basic knowledge that he is a weeb and that Halo designs are based on Gundam
>>724711419if halo was based on gundam it would have good designs like the zaku2
>>724711419Weeaboo*fucking eternal newfaggot.
>>724683318A horde of retards who had never played a FPS before
>>724711510Seethe more retarded faggot>>724711474that is ugly
>>724711510unc has never heard of shorthand, smdh
>>724711816Nigga the gm spartan didn't even exist back then. It's from code fairy, which is a fucking 2021 game.
>>724708869Either play it on the original Xbox or get MCC and just keep it on original graphics. Or pirate the original PC version. Just wait for a steam sale for MCC imo
/v/ is too young to realize how content rich Halo was at the time, especially for a console shooter>twinstick controls>difficulty options>big campaign with full voice acting>local multiplayer>fancy vehicles that weren’t ass to control (this was mind blowing)>cool soundtrackThen with Halo 2 we got Xbox Live which was even more mind blowing for consolefags
>>724683656Back then, life wasn't loud 24/7 so the bombasticness was not being "overproduced" and the mystery of the more light tracks was not "pretentious." Are you young? I'm not fronting, it's just easy to think Halo's music is more of the same because when it came out it wasn't. You might just be engagement farming for 40c so that's my fault for falling for it.
>>724684364I don't know enough about the names and who is pro-making the Forerunners human, so can someone give a better run down than the pictures? Also, I don't know if I ever thought of the Forerunners as Human. The biggest hint at that would be that monitors respond to and listen to Humans differently than any Covenant species and this is talked about in the books (which may or may not have even known that plot point despite Halo 3 era Halo starting to understand how important the books are to the canon) , but the Forerunners and Humans butting heads in ancient time at the feet of the Precursors is interesting to me.
>>724687743What a good and pleasant post.
>>724683972There are plenty of nazi killing games thanks to kikes. How about someone with balls to make a game where you're the natsoc taking out weimar communists and rothschild central bankers out of Germany.
>>724683318the open mic lobbies filled with squeakershttps://youtu.be/C7QCh-l-EJM
>>724714816I had the idea this year all by my own... do you know how free we'll finally be if we have unapologetically White supremacist movies? Like, a serious tone film talking about a White man in Detroit in the 70s just trying to get by and the film FINALLY paints blacks as the villains for coming into neighborhoods and ruining everything? Like, I realized it's unimagineable a movie that has a tone like that, that paints to the viewer how barbaric the situation it.
>>724692029>there were fewer.and they defined the entire fucking genre from its inception, buttmad zoomoiddoom, unreal, quake all rip halo apart
>>724689258>Are they really as low as what Halo used to be?halo 3 used low FOV mostly because the hardware was godshithalo 3 for example on the 360 ran at silky smooth 29fps with 60 fov at a resolution of 640p
>>724683318enemy types and behaviorphysicsmusicunique settingfun weaponspolishedmultiplayer modeaction movie story
>>724683318You could toss a nade at a group of elites and grunts hiding behind a wall and after it explodes maybe you see a grunt come flying out in an arc, windmilling its arms as it flies screaming through the air.
>>724686289Underrated reply.
>>724683318Everything
>What made Halo special?Literally nothing.
>>724683318I'm not the biggest halo fan, but what I think made me like it was experiencing a military shooter without all the boring military aesthetics, jarbon and plotlines military shooters have.
>>724712002Retard. It's older than Halo.
>>724716786>implying it looks anything like MC in that version
>>724683318>What made Halo special?Best fps enemy Ai (even now)
>>724717246You may be a retard but I am just happy to see a Gundam bro out in the wild.
>>724686302You had a PC and not play any of the fun shooters available? Aside from Doom, Bro you missed out on a lot of potential memories.Quake 3+custom gamesBF1942+mods (Desert Combat mod influenced BF2 and Star Wars mod influenced Battlefront)RTCW+custom maps, Enemy Territory was GOAT as well. We had games with 100+ players in this shitCall of Duty+United OffensiveCounterstrike+custom gamesBunch of others like serious sam, MoH, SoF, etc.We were treated very well, and the modding community had passion for these games. Its a dayamn shame jimmy you could have joined our FPS crusades in the early 2000s
>the new generation thinks halo isn't anime because it doesn't look like genshin impactfucking kek.
>>724717628I definitely missed out yeah, but that's how it was. I played mostly other shit on it and didn't go back to play shooters until later.
>>724683318When you first saw Halo were you blinded by its majesty?
>>724683318pc white men: fear, max payne, half life 2, serious sam, far cry, cs 1.6, battlefront 2, swat 4, crysis, cod mwbrown burger: halo, nintendo slop
>>724683694*cough cough*Also Voodoo Vince is GOATed get fucked
>>724683694I dont remember anything on xbox besides halo or morrowind.
What's the authentic way to play Halo?
>>724691917You played the dark ages using a standing desk because you stand and fight lmao
>>724715006Yeah man, I'd love to see interesting stories like that, or what went down in Hurricane Katrina with the nigger looters against the white community. So much potential
>>724717792Understandable
>>724718226There's no perfect way. OG has bad resolution and framerate. MCC edition got a lot of fixes, I don't think you can make it completely accurate to the original though. You're definitely supposed to play it coop.Halo VR is amazing and it was like playing the game for the first time again. I didn't realize how good we had it.
Microsofts marketing money pandering to brownoids
>>724716551It's funny that halo is supposed to be the first console player's fps but when you bring up goldeneye they get mad after just pretending it never existed
>>724718812Brown countries hadn't yet invented fire when Halo CE came out.
>>724717732>anime invented motocross helmets
>and fps that aims for you>objectively bad level design>copied and pasted corridors>empty spaces with nothing interesting>experience 95% of what the game has to offer in 5 minutes>no pacing at all>slow boring as fuck movement >boring fucking weapons >regenerative shields / health promoting gameplay>game is meant to be played like a cover shooterI pity people who's formative years were stuck playing Gaylo because you couldn't afford to play on PC.
>>724719002>objectively bad level designAnyone who thinks "game design" isn't a total spook is a fucking nutcase.
>>724719002>arenaslop
>>724719002>regenerative shields Meanwhile Half-Life's maps are littered with health and shield pickups. Halo's shields produce the same effect, except without as many physics objects strewn about the map.>game is meant to be played like a cover shooterNo that's literally the point of the shield; so you have a buffer to go out and be aggressive.
>>724683656
>>724719145>Meanwhile Half-Life's maps are littered with health and shield pickupsIt's a finite resource used to promote exploration which adds tension and depth to the level design. >No that's literally the point of the shieldI don't care about the opinion of people who played on easy, sorry. On legendary, you play gaylo like a cover shooter.
>>724714031"you are forerunner" from the most reliable character in the game is enough for anyone. Guilty spark doesn't even lie by omission, he doesn't tell you things because he thinks you already know, because you are forerunner. Even in halo 1 he's recalling a conversation he had with "you" about activating the ring the first time that was thousands of years ago, like you're supposed to know what he's talking about.
>>724719324>On legendary, you play gaylo like a cover shooterNo, you don't, you are just bad at the game lmao.
>>724684396bethesda kicked it off with Oblivion, such a downgrade of an rpg, then Skyrim was even worse
>>724719365The game is about mitigating damage with cover from clever AI that tries to flank and flush you out while you do the same back. The shield regcharging is what allows you to move between cover. You gain no resources from playing aggressive. (YOU) can play aggressive, out of cover, by your own admission, because you played the game on easy.You could have explained what mechanics Gaylo has that promotes playing it aggressive like Doom Eternal. There aren't any. Instead, you chose to sperg out. I accept your concession.
>>724702060CounterSlop was never good
>>724683318NothingTimesplitters, Medal of honor, 007 all superior fps games available on the same console gen.
>>724719579That is a massive spergout yet not once did you ever explain why Halo is even bad.
>>724719579>playing it aggressive like Doom EternalAt this point, Nu-Doom zoomer fanboys have become even more obnoxious than Smash fans
>>724683694>No toe jam and earl 3 or Blinx
>>724719002>game is meant to be played like a cover shooterYou have shields and the enemies almost overwhelmingly use projectile based weapons. You can play aggressively even on legendary against covenant using your shield as a buffer easyThe flood start using unsc weapons, but they're much more fragile, melee oriented and the strength of weapons like the shotgun also push you into aggressive active playThe first time halo has really pushed you towards defensive cover play is really 4, because forerunners are incredibly tanky and use hitscan
>>724719692I never claimed Halo was bad, my point was that its a cover shooter and you lashed out without giving any sort of counter-argument. I accept your concession.>>724719731Rightfully earned tbfh. Apart from Ultrakill, there isn't a single singleplayer FPS with better combat than Doom Eternal.
>>724688135>tfw only 200 hookers...
>>724719849>I never claimed Halo was bad>I'll just keep calling it Gaylo and saying it has objectively bad level design and is boring as fuck etc etcI'm sorry, which parts of your original bait post (>>724719002) were meant to be interpreted as praise of Halo?
>>724719824>You have shields and the enemies almost overwhelmingly use projectile based weapons.Projectiles that track your movement. You also move incredibly slow. There are no movement mechanics to speak of. Shields are nothing more than to give you some grace when flanking and flushing out enemies. You don't have enough to stand out in the open and take on all the enemies. How is it I know more about Gaylo than Gaylo fans, with Gaylo fans completely failing to understand how their game is meant to be played and failing to demonstrate how you're 'supposed' to play.Ah, its because they all played on easy and LARP about legendary.
>>724718226Play the original trilogy on the Xbox if possible. I think the 360 had backwards compatibility with it too.Any remake of any vidya is going to take liberty on changing certain things and eliminates the authenticity. Bungie had quality programmers so there was no way 343 or anyone else could replicate 1:1 what was established. The MCC is still fucking broken to this day with networking and I can't enjoy 1 minute of playing with my cousin without disconnecting and delayed inputs. They don't even have the theater mode. It was a regretful purchase when it came out and still is today. Microsoft fucking hates its own flagship product and crashed it into oblivion.
>>724719145>No that's literally the point of the shield; so you have a buffer to go out and be aggressive.Then you have to stop being aggressive when it gets too low so you can get it back.
>>724683318What made it special was a cool guy named chad calling it GAYlo.
>>724720026You're so desperate to shift this into some meta argument because you lost on the facts and I'm not letting you. Respond to my actual post with a counter-argument or I'll consider it a concession.
>>724683318you were young/thread
>>724719824Halo 4 is one of the few games where you are pushed into aggression because the needler is OP, enemies will teleport away if you take too long to kill them, you have no reserve ammo, and weapons despawn after like 10 seconds.
>>724720124What facts? No one gives a shit whether you consider Halo a cover shooter because people are interested in the effects; ie whether x, y, and z have a positive or negative impact on the game. You repeatedly made it clear that you thought Halo was somehow bad, never explained why, and now you claim you never said it was bad? Again, please tell me which parts of your original bait post (>>724719002) were meant to be interpreted as praise of Halo.
Better looking worse controlling tribes on console with epic opera music instead of techno and a sister/wife/mom AI sidekick with huge levels and a colonial marines/starship troopers plot and modded maps
>>724720284>never explained whyAnd yet here you are linking to posts explaining why. I'm denying you from shifting this into some meta argument. I accept your concession.
>>724720092He won
>>724720368>I never claimed Halo was bad>And yet here you are linking to posts explaining whyThese are contradictory claims.
>>724720425I'm denying you from shifting this into some meta argument. I accept your concession.
>>724701820What else did it do besides revolutionize controls for FPS with a controller and console multiplayer?
>>724704187haha I was playing co-op CE (MCC version) with my friend online who was a halo 3 babby first-timer. Said I would play but not lead the way so he had to find the way himself. I advised old graphics but you can choose individually so I was playing on old, him on new.He spent an eternity looking for that bit you go up to activate the first light-bridge on Halo and eventually just gave up and needed telling where it was, I was like wtf how can he not find it, they put lights right next to the opening.I switched graphics and there are lights fucking EVERYWHERE
I turned on this series when I realised a bunch of Trump fags made it.I prefer less problematic shooters now.
>>724720471What does that even mean, mate? You got so easily baited into unwittingly admitting to your own lies because you're a pathological retard who can't even keep track of his own stupidity. If your intention is to troll, you're not even doing a good job because you've tripped over yourself so profoundly that you trolled yourself.
>>724704896You must be a gachanoid brown thirdie or a white nigger who learned bullet spray patterns but still miss the toilet bowl and get piss on their legs to think this is unappealing
Halo CE just did well at making the sense of dealing with an enigma behind your understanding and have aliens who felt like a dangerous force. Covenant lore in 2 wasn’t bad, halo 3 covenant was a joke and it was hard to believe humans struggled to fight them. To the point bungie pivoted on how they depicted the covenant in reach (and for the better). Fucking hated the flanderization of them to cartoon monsters by 4. Yes I get they’re zealotic but that zealotry is scarier to me than them just being well, space monster/pirate I guess.
>>724719639You lie.
>>724720714I means you lost the argument on Gaylo being a primitive cover shooter and you're desperate to have an argument about the argument instead of responding to any of my criticisms about Gaylo.I command you to bark like a dog, beg me once again to have a meta argument. I can see how desperate you are.Go on. Bark for me.
>>724720680Don't use my wife to post low quality bait please
>>724720883No one is falling for this, holy shit you're such a loser lmao
Couch multiplayer.
>>724720945Good dog. I command you to bark again and completely avoid my criticisms of Gaylo. Do exactly as I command, once again.
>>724683694are we really trying the "it had no games" narrative for a console that got almost every multiplatform game and usually had the best versions of them?
1) Many people's first exposure to FPS2) Competently made3) Competently written4) "Halo" is a good name for the game
>>724720869Yes.Medal of honor has superior single player.007 superior multiplayer.Timesplitters superior both.Cope AND seethe.
Blinx thoughever
>>724718939Left stick move, right stick look is a big difference. Only eternal darkness did this before Halo.
>>724709321>We shit on it now, but in 2001Who is we? The same people who shit on it now shat on it in 2001 and they have never thought about halo's game design. There's no reason to code to your post so retards will overlook it. The only controversial aspects of the game are partially regenerating health and carrying only two weapons is anti-fun in some ways. But games aren't allowed to be different and have to be a boomer arena shooter. That part is not even true, it's always because it was on console. Actually that's not true either, because console first with a PC release later is standard industry practice and it's halo in particular that is especially maligned in a way COD and battlefield wish they were maligned. It's because it's a good game and they wanted it. They could've picked up the PC port later and they didn't.
>>724722459goldeneye had this as a control option with the dpad, it's just translating a ubiquitous PC control scheme. But that's not the point. A lot of dudebros played golden eye and it was the first dudebro game. It was also an excellent FPS. This idea that console players didn't have high standards for FPS when they played halo is just nonsense. No shitty FPS was massively successful on console and there were many of them
>>724684364People just don't hate 343/Halo Studios enough
>>724721286lol, lmao even
>>724683318They try hard with "EXPLORE THIS GIANT RING", but the playable area is less of 500 m2.
>>724719002Gaylofags can't argue with this, even their own developers (Bungie and Halo Studios) saw the gameplay of Halo as dated and changed it.
>>724723039>>724723162Nice, kid.
>>724720187You are not pushed to be aggressive in Halo 4 because weapons have less ammunition and Forerunner Knights are fucking retarded since they're tanky, hit hard and teleport when low on health. You're encouraged to sit back and shoot with precision weapons on every Forerunner centric encounter
>>724723465This website's I don't know what the fuck they did to it. I have to always wait 120 seconds before posting for the first time, have to keep posting in the same thread just to post more, I post anywhere else before like 30 minutes, I have to wait 120 seconds again, now I can't even delete posts until I can regularly post. Also, the new Captcha is shit. I don't know what the hell is going on with this website, it's getting worse every year.
>>724708319>SLOP!!! SLOP!!!>Gets 4 sequels and a live service gameYou just really want H*lo to win.
There is nothing inherently unique or complex about Halo. The fact Cortana is a sexy, white woman and not morbid obese afroamerican showcase how they follow generic sci-fi tropes
>>724718226There are some engine discrepancies but nowadays MCC is pretty acceptable for a new player to get into halo Do not touch the anniversary graphics or the anniversary sound design though, that shit is straight up garbage
>>724723701343 pig go away
>>724691273I lived in Kazakhstan at the time. My parents moved to the Germany in mid 2000s. I remember we had a trouble with the PS2 because it was imported from Germany but local games were locked out. This could only be fixed with using some bullshit accessories but that was too difficult, so they just bought another PS2 that was pre-jailbroken. lol Still, by the time I moved to Germany I stopped playing consoles altogether. I think I still have the PS3 I bought once in the cellar somewhere, but I played a total of maybe one week on it. One way or another, never had a chance to play Halo back in the day.
>>724683971>brostopped reading hereyou are dumb and brown
>>724683694I have this game wishlisted on Steam and it never goes on sale.
>>724715557>enemy types and behavioryou get two enemies for the entire series, plus two other enemies for some missions, it's pathetic>physicsfloaty, slow, sluggish >musicgeneric hollywood slop>unique settingthe Halo planet itself is the only unique thing about it, everything about it is a boring and generic version of Quake, Doom, UT, with the soul and fun sucked out of it>fun weaponsthey all feel weightless, among the less fun weapons in vidya history>polishedclearly it wasn't since Halo 2 was more an update than a sequel>multiplayer modebaby's first no doubt>action movie storygeneric slop
>>724683694AMPED was the best snowboarding game at the time and was super slept on.
Man was I pissed in the day when I got to play Halo on my PC after having played it on a friend's Xbox a year prior, and seeing that I had no co-op options on it. That and the normal maps not working unless the flash light was aiming at it. Thanks Gearbox.What made Halo special? It was a visual looker and soundtrack to boot. Weapon balance was solid (even the pistol wasn't a waste like 90% of FPS), but beyond that, I'll take any PC FPS campaign over it any day.
>>724726174>'ll take any PC FPS campaign over it any day.Name them
>>724726240MoH:AA, Swat 3, Rainbow 6 & Rogue Spear, Soldier of Fortune, Jedi Knight 1 & 2.
>>724704187somehow the overly lit version has less visibility lol
>>724726427All of those are below halo in story telling and presentation. Not to mention Halo is an original IP. I've replay Halo 1-3 many times with friends and its still a good time.
>>724727000We're talking specifically Halo 1 here. Halo 1's campaign fucking drags at multiple points, especially on my PC copy where I was stuck running it solo. Halo's story presentation barely has anything going on in 90% of the game outside of gorgeous skyboxes and exteriors.
It was a shooter designed to be played with your thumbs so it was more accessible than counterstrike, quake, and unreal tournament
>>724727312The flow is top tier with you starting in smart intro area to learn controls. Getting introduced to the enemy in tight corridors then crashing down on a alien planet with a much larger more colorful sandbox with Cortana giving you info as a 10/10 score is playing in the background. Going to much into the story and cut scenes slows down gameplay and as we saw with reach and ODST is worse then the focus on gameplay while the story unfolds around you imo. I don't think I could replay an old medal of honor game even though it was good story telling at the time I don't think any of those hold up as well as the OG halos but it could be the co-op aiding that.
>>724683318i wasn't a console babby, so nothing except a pretty fun shoot campaign to play with a buddy.
>>724714031Every part in green here is all the foreshadowing that says Forerunners are Humans. Two hard confirmations too. The parts in red are the Halo 3 terminals which Jamie the lead designer all the trilogy confirmed in that image that Bungie had zero involvement with the contents of the terminals.
>>724710238Halo 3 was orchestral. Marty was having the time of his life.
>>724717931Based Brute Force poster.
>>724728645Good list except for the specimen mentioned by Spark, who was referring to the Flood spores.
>>724729168No clue what part you’re talking about but have another! If it’s the part about reperductipn that’s a direct quote from when he becomes aware of humanity
>>724683318Literally the baby's first FPS for console cucksThe game itself is a mediocre shooter nobody would've cared about if it came out on PC cause PC had much better FPS games.
>>724729439this, so much this sister
>>724729364"grateful to see them survived to reproduce" referred to Flood spores. It's a tiny hint that 343 Guilty Spark might be mad and his logic might be warped.
>>724729556That’s wrong. He says that upon seeing humanity. He knew the flood has been there for centuries. He was containing them.
>>724729718I guess I will need to replay the Library then.
>>724729439>The game itself is a mediocre shooter nobody would've cared about if it came out on PCWhich it wouldn't have, since it was originally going to be a Mac exclusive RTS.
>>724729439My cousin, a fps and rts pc enthusiast at the time, bought an xbox solely to play halo.For several days, he wouldn't stop ranting about how bad and slow the game is
>>724704896>easy>first enemy encouter in the gameHow about you try that in the same room during "The Maw", maybe not on easy this time...
>>724688626>trying to own "boomers" by spouting random old games>in response to being told your favourite game isnt special just because it had autoaim and was the first basic FPS game on your first consolelmao
>>724683971recruitment ad for the iraq war
>>724690156One of us
>Retards don't know that Halo was extremely influenced by 80s/90s anime OVAs>What is Oni?Halofags are subhuman baboons it's no wonder the majority fucked off to COD when it became garbage ZOGbot propaganda.
>>7247354913babies are the retarded step children of the Halo community. No one likes them, they try to act straight and "right-wing" but they're really gay commies like their Reclaimertranny brothers, I mean sisters. Truly Gaylofags
>>724685605This looked even better on a CRT.
>>724736451Lord Schizo, please return home.
>>724737816Hit a nerve, huh?
>>724702073Ghost in the Shell (Masamune Shirow), Macross, Gundam
>>724735491Eric Nylund came up with the the aesthetic of the unsc, Insurrection, SPARTAN program, ODSTs, Spartan vs ODST rivalry, Dr Halsey, Blue Team, Captain Keyes and Dr Halsey romance, John-117 backstory, Keyes loop, Onyx, etcJoe Staten came up with Captain Keyes (Captain Exposition), Cortana, Sgt Johsnon, Master Chief's one liner personality, 343 Guilty Spark, Lord Hood, Miranda Keyes, Arbiter, Prophets, Tartarus, Mendicant Bias, Gravemind, The Rookie, a lot of Halo Wars ideas, Covenant loreLee Wilson, Marcus Lehto and Marty O'Donnel came up with Noble Team to tell "Bungie's version" of the Fall of Reach as a swan song before moving on to Destiny>Bungie was against the whole concept initially of the insurrectionists and just wanted humans to have these super soldiers for no sort of reason.>The crew behind FoR felt that there needed to be some in universe reason to justify the spartans, and since there was no alien threat at that time in the story, the insurrection and human civil war was what they landed onAlso, Nylund notes that with the reprints of his books, he hasn’t been paid the royalties. 343 kiked him
>>724738506Fine, stay here.
>Captain Keyes...Why'd he say it like that?
>>724732018I didn't name any games that he wasn't already talking about. You're trying to own halo kiddies by not reading anything you reply to, ask your mom how to shut up when men are talking
>>724728645Man that's a shame, I kinda liked the Didact/Librarian story in H3 terminals, a bit of a melodramatic set up but it's grand and operatic as Didact tries to delay firing the rings.
>>724739057>Lee Wilson, Marcus Lehto and Marty O'Donnel came up with Noble Team to tell "Bungie's version" of the Fall of Reach as a swan song before moving on to DestinyI'm not defending Frankie, but it's always confused me he has frequently said he wrote on Reach despite having no credit etc. I'm sure he helped but he hasn't been specific as too with what
>>724683318Nothing. It was just the first step into modern first person shooters. The ones before sucked ass even more than Halo did.
>>724744072Turok was kino. Fuck you.
>>724743890Probably some of the hidden data pads.
>>724697681You're the same autist who tried to lie and say Demon's Souls was MIDI when it wasn't
>>724714031>but the Forerunners and Humans butting heads in ancient time at the feet of the Precursors is interesting to medesu the only thing stupider than humanity being literally forerunners is 343's ass backwards headcanon of an ancient human civilization contemperous with them. I get people like having an easy signifier to go 'take that 343tards im a fan of the REAL Halo' but fuck I hate fuckwits latching onto forerunners = literally human beings as a purity test for their love of the franchise. The connection always worked better on an alogorical level (i.e. they forerunners are spiritual descendents who guided/influenced a early humanity and chose them as their inheritors because of the strenght of humanity as a species)
>>724684962>ultra fast-paced twitch shootingGod, that shit is cancer.
>>724739267He knew that Keyes would repeatedly run infront of marine fire and run into the lethal range of plasma grenades on TNR.
>>724745482I'm glad I was naive playing this series, the only reason I didn't think Halo's lore was generic trite was because of the Frankie Terminals in Halo 3. It made Bungie's lore more interesting despite not being canon to it. Same with the Iris campaign and Bestiarum that came with Halo 3. Bungie's shit from Halo CE-3 was both generic and boring while being uninteresting. Despite that one guy who worked on Doom and Halo Wars being a pathological liar, I kind of believe him on what he said Bungie claimed was the final stage of the Flood. It sounded retarded enough to be true while also being generic and a conundrum.
>>724729772>>724729718I've just played it yesterday for the first time and I too had the impression that he was talking about the flood, but I'm not sure because I didn't have time to focus on the subtitles.
>>724744072Half-Life, UT/Quake and Counter-Strike predate Halo by 3 years. Even modern sloppy hero fps which could be argued to have taken inspiration from Halo are, very tellingly, based on the Unreal engine. Face it, it was Baby's first fps, produced by a soulless corporation (Microsoft) for their soulless console.
I remember seeing the Marathon symbol on the security helmet in Halo 3 and I thought that was the coolest shit ever. At the time I had only played Marathon 2 because I think that was the only game available on the OG XBOX and I thought it was the first Marathon game but man it was weird
>>724720680I'm trans btw
>>724683694Xbox had a great library, newfriend
>>724710714>t. moefag
>>724721197SEGA tier junkware
The party is over. Time to banana split out of my club!
>>724683318I went from playing Doom to playing Halo, and I was amazed at the graphics.
>>724683656I didn't notice this as a baby, but replaying them as an adult the wannabe Hollywood music and cut scenes made me cringe. Especially in 3.
>>724745059You're a retard.
>>724683318The real answer that doesn't get talk about enough. FPS games were hot garbage on console, Playing an FPS was second class experience with a controller. The reason Halo actually succeeded was because it was the first console FPS to have parity in terms of fluidity in controls with PC. Halo will and can never have the same of success it did because there is way too much competition.
>>724748376This is why Microsoft/Halo Studios is shifting it away from competing, but you can't for the life of me, get me to understand why they're making a multiplayer-only Halo game when Halo multiplayer no longer has any legs, despite with grifters try to claim.
