Its really baffling that Bamco even remove the Im@s costume
probably a licensing thing. they'd have to pay money just to use the costumes again
Dead Series
>>724698542Should have released the two games.Atelier is also losing public by going full greedy
>>724698601>they'd have to pay money>to themselvesBamco owns im@s, too
are you all fucking retarded/living in 2008? If the remaster sales spreadsheet lines up and the numbers merit it, they'll put the costumes up as paid dlc. that's how this shit works.
>>724698542>re-release a 14 year old game>ask 40 for itIt's not even good.
>>724701912And worse, its released without Xillia 2
>>724698601>probably a licensing thing. they'd have to pay money just to use the costumes again>Imas is owned by bamco/v/ and the amount of censorbootlickers in it will never stop amazing me over its retardation.
>>724700224Sounds like apologist's excuse considering "how this shit works" is they put in all the old dlcs from the get go, and imas costume is old dlc.
>>724702112You still have to get in-company permission and what not from the department that handles it. I'm not defending it or anything it would take minimal effort to arrange but it's not as simple as 'we work for the company that owns this so we can do whatever with it'.
>>724700224what about graces miku
>>724702234Little bro, I work with IP laws and it really is as simple as that when it comes to stuff like using other games reference the same company own as long as it doesn't involve other parties such as music or voices.
>>724702241Everything is gone. G O N E
How much censorship is there?
>>724702337Do you work in Japanese IP law?Because there's nothing there to censor, so that also doesn't really make much sense.Might just be Idolmaster is dated and they removed it.
It's over.
There are over 40 free costumes now, so whatever.
>>724702337Is this the new "my uncle works at Nintendo" that boomers are using? Hilarious
>>724698542The Xillia remaster makes the shitty ps3 version obsolete.
>>724702708None. OP is a retard.
Wait a second...
>>724702773>DatedNigga, they just spent millions on live shows and crossbrand promotions this year for the 20th anniversary . They even brought iM@S x Pacman merch to Anime Expo
>>724704229>40*4
>20th anniversary>release a remaster of one the most underwhelming Tales of games in the entire series>not even a decent Baba Tales of game, at that >don't even bundle it with a remaster of Xillia 2>Could have done literally anything else, like port over/remake/remaster Tales of Destiny 1, Tales of Destiny 2, just to cite one example
>>724702708>>724704313They cut out the pipe due to a national law that prevents the depiction of minors smoking in any shape or form (real or fake).Everything else is the same as the PS3 release.
>>724704592Everyone except for probably you knew that they they were going to prioritize the more modern games first because its far more likely that they'd have the source code to build from instead of doing it from scratch.Tomizawa said on record that they're doing games in parallel, so there's at least one non Xillia 2 game in development. (Likely Abyss or one of the Vita games)
>>724704620Exactly but OP is pretending it has DEI censorship.
>>724702337>as long as it doesn't involve other parties such as music or voices.Thats the rub. The Im@s costumes also came with some idolmaster song where I assume the problem lies. Of course they could just port the costumes without the song but this is scamco were talking about and doing anything that requires more than a smallest iota of effort is off the table
>>724702773No but I obviously know more about laws than you or >>724704264 do. Arguments like yours won't even hold in Phoenix Wright's courtroom.
>>724702234Your source on this?
>>724704814Does having foreknowledge that someone is going to shit in your birthday cake a year ahead of time make the reveal any less reprehensible? Kill yourself.
this first city looks so good man, also force v-sync with your amd or nvidia card, i was getting some horrible screen tearing
>>724705106Cool, pulling ranks from your ass in a anonymous board discussion doesn't make yours more credible, either.
>Pantyshots still in >Preza still feels up Milla in the first meeting >Teepo still talks about Bazongas >Jude and Teepo (Elize) both just blatantly mention that Milla is hot af Literally the only confirmed change is removal of the pipe accessory. Which is a ratings board thingI assume the middle finger being changed to pointing is also still in but thats all the way near the end of the game so I can't confirm it for a while
>>724705531Do you have screenshots of Elize panties? Asking for a friend.
>>724702708>724704313>None.Based retard.There IS censorship, but it's minimal to the point that you have to be a massive contrarian or someone actively looking for things to be mad about to care.The pipe and beard was turned into just a beard, and there's an unspecified amount of text changed "to suit age-appropriate audiences" or whatever.https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/tales-of-xillia-remastered-whats-new
>>724705473It's crazy what baked lighting can do when done right. Fennmont is really really pretty.
>>724704592>whining that it's "thing i don't care about" instead of "thing i do care about">generic corny doomer imageShut up, manXillia has been trapped on PS3 for 15 years. It finally isn't. That's a good thing, stop being a prissy bitch, especially when they've said they're literally doing more Remasters.
>>724705772dude any time a new tales games gets released on pc people here say its shit, it happens everytime.
>>724705905kek this one literally had the same flaws as arise, game is blatantly unfinished and doesn't let you combo bosses, also no overworldeveryone shat on this game before they announced this remasteronly a nigger shill will suddenly say this is good
>>724701912>re-release a 14 year old game>ask 40 for it>remove content
>>724705772see?>>724706067
>>724699947Arise sold well, probably the best the series has done. I imagine the next mainline game will also do well, nobody cares about remasters because they look old.
>>724706112>one dlc removed>all other previous dlc is FREEKYSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>724701912>>724706112They removed some paid DLC.And in exchange made the rest of the paid DLC entirely free and bundled with the game.That's a trade-off I'm more than willing to make.You losers can stay mad over nothing lol.
so the gameplay is still rowen spamming fireballs and casters + snap pivot destroying every boss?
>>724706338They wouldn't have bought the dlc if they were all made not free. Though in all honestly they should had done that and made it so they deluxe edition included the dlcs.
>>724706282>>724706338>free>ask 40 for it
>>724698601>pay money>to themselves....
>>724698542do I have to play Xillia 1 to fully appreciate Xillia 2? also Xillia 2 when
>>724706534Rowen? Fireballs? I just use Pow Hammer.
>>724706705>do I have to play Xillia 1 to fully appreciate Xillia 2?Xillia 2 has a summary, but ideally you should play both yeah.>also Xillia 2 whenSoon(tm).>・エクシリア2リマスターはまだ途上段階。少しでも早く続報をお届けしたい
>>724706705Yes. 2 does a piss poor job of explaining the first games events.
>>724706635Pirate it instead of crying, baby.
>>724706705Does the main characters from xillia 2 appear in xillia 1 actually?
>>724706770>The link arte between Elize and Alvin where she gives him a giant pow hammer is my favorite >>724707124no
>>724707124Marta and the Will Kresnik bros don't.The rest do because they're returning Xillia 1 characters as far as Xillia 2 itself is concerned.
>>724705479Anyone can look up IP laws themselves online and verify what I said, but obviously you're too dense to know this.
>>724705531There's no im@s costume.
>>724702112Wait to learn about voice licenses little censor-kun.
>>724707124Two of the villains in 1 become playable in 2.
>>724707189>>724707212>>724707442I meant Edger and Elle.
>>724698601hello tourist
>>724707392Correct. They were removed just like the licensed costumes from Graces f were removed for its remaster.
>>724707475Oh, then no. X1 barely had time for it's small cast, they weren't laying the foundations for the sequel with such a rushed product.
>>724707475Yeah, again, Marta and the Will Kresniks don't show up at all.
>>724698601retard
I played both Xilia 1 and 2 and cannot remember the plot of either. Am I alone in that?
>>724705473It's funny that Jude's starting city looks absolutely incredible and then basically everything after it looks like complete shit.
>>724706067>kek this one literally had the same flaws as ariseAbsolute fucking bait, stopped reading right there.
>>724707859It's telling how whenever people talk about how good looking Xillia is, they only ever show images of the starting town.
>>724706705X2 heavily relies on you knowing about the events of X1 for it to fuck with them
>>724707972because you can't read dumbfuck
Is Tales of the Arise good?
>724707859>>724708029For sure.It makes me think they either never left Fennmont aka didn't play the game, or simply have shit taste.Hamil, Nia Khera and Sharilton are beautiful, and places like Trigleph have their charm being a mechanical-looking or industrial city.
Look at how the censored her. disgusting
>>7247067052 is worse than 1 in basically every single way and also lazily copies 90% of the game's locations so I see absolutely no reason why you would ever need to ask this question>>724708176No, I would honestly say it beats Zesteria and Symphonia 2 as being the single worst game in the series.
I'm glad I can finally play Xillia 1 and 2 without that yellow piss filter.
best girl coming through
>>724708186i forgot how ugly this game looks. for some reason graces f looks better.
>>724708214I find 2 way better than 1. Jude is a fucking awful protag, and Milla is also bland. She's not even the best Milla, Alt Milla is way better. Also Muzet and Gaius are the best characters, so 2 wins by default.
>>724708280Xillia 1 and 2 are just ugly in general. The cutscene animations are choppy and horrendous too.
this or Ys IX?
>>724708272Get stabbed by discount Raven.
>>724708176LMAO, no. Here, play this eternia PSP romhack I cobbled together skits and all with an hd texture pack in the 2nd link if you want. This is a good tales game to play.https://www.mediafire.com/file/qkwvjp4kivb3d0z/Tales+of+-Eternia.iso/filehttps://www.mediafire.com/file_premium/908ct2742nig444/EterniaPSP_HD_UI_Beta_01.7z/file
Daily reminder that Arise is the best rated and best selling Tales of and it literally saved the series.
2 was ruined for me when i read those doujins about futa elle plowing ludger and then the 2nd one where he meets elle's futa mom and gets excited about getting mpreged with elle
>>724708385By stabbed you mean fucked?
>>724708334I wish they did a touchup on the textures like the Kingdom Hearts remakes. a lot of the PS3 compression looks rough.
>>724708176I liked it, but the common complaint about the pacing of the story is fairly valid. It feels like the games act 3 is hyper condensed and cut down compared to the rest of the game. Otherwise there's a few changes that I get people not liking that I think were fine (skits not using 2D art anymore, and using 3D models instead etc.)I actually thought it was pretty great looking also. I still need to actually finish the DLC.
>>724708483>best rated *Best selling
>>724708327Xillia 2 basically character assassinates 1's entire cast by making them into unlikable assholes with zero empathy and has honestly one of the dumbest plots I've ever seen in a video game. It's not awful by any means and it does improve on the gameplay ever so slightly but it's one of the few sequels that actually made me think less of the game it is a sequel to by how absolutely awfully it handled basically everything carrying over from the first game. In fact the only good things I can say about Xillia 2 are the things that are wholly unique to it like the main 2 new characters. Xillia 2 would have been better as it's own game.
>>724708612>Xillia 2 basically character assassinates 1's entire cast by making them into unlikable assholes with zero empathyExamples?
>>724708612But enough about Symphonia 2
I dropped Graces F, should I bother trying Xilia? I guess my biggest issue was it turns out having a super boring story really does make me lose interest even if the battle system was fun.
>>724708612Xillia 1's cast in that game just feels shoved in and they do practically nothing. Even at the end they're all just standing around like retards while a dude tries to kill a child.
>>724708648How everyone treats the other worlds and nu-Max. I also just generally hate how the story brings up a completely new world ending threat that completely undermines everything the first game was working towards achieving making the entire game completely worthless since nothing you did actually fucking mattered.>>724708670It's basically the same thing but Xillia 2 does it even worse.
>>724708493I mean as long as ludger's happy...
>>724708760>Xillia 2 does it even worseAnd any shred of merit left was incinerated in an instant
>>724708493
I heard Xillia 2 goes full DBZ and Devilman when it comes to Bodycount (like they are the ONLY surviving timeline)
>>724708816Symphonia 2 did not make me think less of Symphonia 1 in the same way Xillia 2 did to Xillia 1. Now admittedly that's because Symphonia 1 is a much better game but still. I can ignore 2 and pretend it doesn't exist. Xillia 2 is not something you can ignore.
>>724705531Does the MC get any action with this blonde slut or is he a little bitch like most Tales protags? She also looks like an unlikable bitch anyway, like a prototype version of the Berseria FeMC
>>724708176I liked the love story, which probably hard carried the game for me. Everytime Shionne melts when Alphen does anything slightly heroic causes me to feel happy.
>>724708612>Xillia 2 basically character assassinates 1's entire cast by making them into unlikable assholesXillia 1 did that on it's own though. I don't entirely disagree though, Xillia 2 complete shits on the themes of the first game, but I don't mind because the first games themes were shit.
>>724708827Ludger in shambles
>>724708929They hold hands at the very end, and the blonde's kinda-sister sucks him off off-screen which makes her jealous in a kit.That's about it.
>>724708929The villains get more hand holding.
>>724708930This is the demographic that thinks arise is an S/A-tier game
>>724708901Yes the solution to the parallel world issue is to quite literally genocide every single other world.
>>724709006>1's entire cast>unlikable assholes>Xillia 1 did that on it's own though.Based retard who has never played Xillia 1 but talks about it still.
>>724708612if it wasn't for everyone in pic related I would've went straight for the bad ending for THAT scene
>>724709063Not that anon, but man you're fucking annoying.He just said "I liked this one aspect of the story personally" and you have to make some weird fucking intentionally obtuse statement about how some fucking vague group calls the game amazing despite the fact the anon said nothing of the fucking sort.Insufferable, I swear to god
>>724709102Jude and Milla are dull, boring protags. Leia is pointless, Alvin is entirely retarded, Elize and Rowen are fine, but undercooked.
>>724707531>Licensed>Same companyDid you skip school?
>>724708930I liked the idea of the love story, the execution was off though, but that was mainly a complaint about the pacing of the game and the awful skit quality. At the time I was getting sick of seeing pseudo harem romances literally everywhere in jrpgs so seeing a normal love story play out was refreshing to me, the character art style in Arise was also amazing, I've got no idea why that gets abuse sometimes.
>>724709225Leia just needs to be cute.
>>724708280>>724708334They were developed during that period where brown was all the rage.>>724708929he gets some action in the sequel
>>724709198It's ok for a JARPG but it's tied for worst tales game ever. Anyone highlighting the juvenile interactions tells more about the demographic than you think. Play more games, prenigger.
>>724698542Sexual objectification of women has no place in modern sensibilities.Blessed Bamco protecting us from misogeny!
>>724708186Post Elize she's the one to be the most likely censored by DEI shit.
>>724709375Literally any positive opinion has to be this shit with your types.>"hey is this game good?">"i specifically liked this one aspect and specifically recognise it carried the game for me, implicitly saying I recognise the game is flawed in other places">inane fucking schizobabble about some imaginary group that considers it an "S tier game" despite the implicit statement that the game is flawed from the person you're responding toDo you not see why you're annoying?I'm going to be very clear, my personal opinion on Arise is irrelevant and so I won't state anything about what I think of it, so if you bring that up, you're actively retarded. Address what I'm actually pointing out. Why do you have to make everything some dogshit inane argument about inane fucking people that aren't in the conversation at the time?
>>724705473Nvidia's fucking with me and it keeps giving me errors when I try to turn on vsync.
>>724709547>your types>signed, your resident schizostopped reading there
>>724704313Does Xillia really have a character named Presa? How unoriginal.
>>724709547Even if you're right you're still wrong cause the romance in Arise is written like shit cause of how unbelievably shallow the cast is and how terrible their interactions are. Graces had a good romance.
>>724698542I'm only playing for tall girl x short boy
>>724706067>doesn't let you combo bosses???https://youtu.be/GCmrl_NMF9I?si=MOL6vQsuZ7XFQ3Fkhttps://youtu.be/zi_FxdKnX-Q?si=G_pQ5WrwSlcTk0fG
>>724709256>>Licensed>>Same companyYes, regardless of whether Bamco owns Code Geass and Idolm@ster, normally, companies have to buy a license to use their content which makes them licensed content.I didn't say that they weren't added to Graces f or Xillia because a license needed to be bought, but you seem to have interpreted it like that. Sucks to be retarded I guess.That being said, Sophie had a Miku Hatsune costume. Bamco does absolutely not own Miku as character in any form or capacity, or anything Vocaloid related for that matter.>Did you skip school?I could ask the same given you don't seem to have any sort of reading comprehension skills and yet decided to try to act smug.
>Remember there being a skit early on in the original game of Alvin and Elize talking about Milla's giant ahoge >Milla bragging that she can use it to distract enemies >Pretty sure I already passed the part of the game where it should have triggered Theres no way they would have cut that skit. there was literally nothing wrong with it
>>724709623Yesn't.Presa is more of a nickname, her actual name is Jill.
>>724698542Xillia 2 included?
>>724710275lollmao even
>>724709867168 cm isn't tall at all…
>>724710275No, lmao. See >>724706804.
Elize best girl. I don't just say that because I want to fuck her (I do) but because I genuinely like her arc over the two games.She's top 3 Tales girls across the whole franchise for me.
>>724698542The Tales remasters since Vesperia are some of the simplest, most straightforward ports with regular additions (like unlocked Grade Shop) out there compared with genuine demasters out there like Mass Effect's. How you can look at the fixed gamma issue and battles not taking 5 seconds each to load alongside everything else and call it a demaster is beyond me.
>kill your series
I liked Xillia 2 because Ludger was so broken you could just one man army people. The guy weapon style switching and a demon mode kek.Lore wise is he the strongest protag?
>>724710436I suppose we're not counting Symphonia after its initial PS3 and PC remasters.
>>724702337>as long as it doesn't involve other parties such as musicGuess what those outfits also involved? Retard
>>724710414Elize got a bad rap over here because of the dub bullshit "SHARING IS CARING" and "I'M READY!", meanwhile she has a much cuter voice in JP
>>724710240Cutting it would mean messing with the actual game - not dlc - coding even more and I highly doubt they'd put more effort into that.EVERYTHING from Graces other than the licensed costumes got in, like Malik's innuendos, peach butt Cheria, and other stuff.
>>724710240Crowning Glory? I got that one in the Deepwood area.
>>724710601>meanwhile she has a much cuter voice in JPI couldn't stand listening to her in both languages and was pissed to realize that she's the best overall healer in both games.
>>724709749Fuck Cheria, you should have been able to romance Sophie like Symphonia allowed you to romance the better girls Raine.
>>724710779I do find it weird that they've never once brought that gimmick back since using it in Symphonia.
>>724710494What's been happening with hahaman's games? I feel like I haven't seen much of them recently.
>>724710414Elize is the best girl in Xillia, but that's a really fucking low bar. She also was sort of undercooked sadly, I wish they did more with the Teepo reveal, but it was mainly used for boob gags.
>>724710494>>724710845Hahaman's games died when he stopped being the protagonist cause nobody gives a shit about Vaan. Most Kisekifags started with Cold Steel and left when Cold Steel ended. Not even the Sky FC remake saved it.
>>724710506One of them.Reid (Seyfert's Aurora) and Luke (Hyperresonance basically destroying anything at an atomic level) are very very high up there.The rest are kind of... whatever... with Yuri probably being the weakest.
>>724710506>>724710943Nobody beats Velvet in terms of being a one man army.
Went on twitch and found a streamer that was deep in the game. The direct tethering skit is also still in.
>>724711027He's referring to lore. I don't think she can do much against any of those 3 with all parties at full power.
>>724707859>>724708029Are you retarded or merely pretending? Nia Khera? Kanbalar? Xillia's Mongolian aesthetic is one of the best things about it.
>>724710601>people dislike insert random jrpg girl>i-i-i-it's the dub's faultNah some girls are just annoying. I didnt like Elize until when I realized that she's a perverted horny brat.
>>724710815Yeah, it's a shame. I'm in two minds about it, because I usually prefer romance options in games because I usually find the "main" romance option to be the worst girl (see most Tales Of games), but in theory, a single romance allows for better, more natural, long term development, it's just that most of the time it's shit. Like how Jude is "in love" with Milla because she's hot and following her for 60% of the game based off that one reason, while also having every other female party member in love with him.
>>724710943Hyperresonance only works on things made up of Fonons.
>>724711116>Holy shit. A fucking generic fantasy village with blocky houses.Also those tree's are straight out of an Atelier game (which is an insult).
>>724711189Now that you mention it, how did it work in Rays when different worlds crossed over? Mithos and the others still had timespace powers with the Eternal Swords.
>>724711267Rays makes an approximation uses its world's rules.
>>724710240If they didn't remove the skit where Alvin jokes around with Jude's sexuality asking if he's gay and then bisexual (they didn't), what makes you think they would remove that one?Just put Elize in your party, do some battles with her and it should pop up.
>>724711151I would like if not just for the singular reason that it would prevent the rest of the party being shipped off together which I always hate since it ruins the party dynamic and makes it no longer feel like a team but rather just a bunch of pairings. Case in point being Arise which has one of the worst party dynamics of any RPG ever. Counter point being Berseria where the main party is god tier because there's no romance. I would generally prefer in a JRPG that the only romance that ever happen if any at all were to be with the MC since it's the only time it doesn't detract from other things.
>>724711267The world ended up being a clusterfuck before the game started which ended up (kind of) siphoning the physics of the other games' world mechanics when their "copies" (aka the legacy characters aka non-OCs) were brought into the world.I don't think anybody playing cared enough to argue over the semantics of that.
Xillia remaster coming out reminds me I need to go back to my rebirth playthrough
No 2 no buy.
>>724711594I kind of want to do a Graces playthrough now that it's on sale after my Berseria run, but I didn't care for Graces on release and it will probably be hard to go from the GOAT that is Berseria to any other Tales game without a gap inbetween. I won't get Xillia until 2 comes out and I can pick up 1 for cheap in a bundle.
>>724711727What did you not like about Graces? As someone who has Berseria as my favorite game in the series Graces is actually my second favorite. I think it probably has the best combat in the series and I liked the main party a lot. Plot is kinda dumb with a bit too much shounen nonsense but I still liked it.
Age of old question of eng vs jp voices?Milla sounds better in jp, but Jude is a whiny bitch and is much better in eng.
>>724711830I liked Jude's JP voice more since it fits his character. Also fun fact Jude is canonically the youngest protagonist in the entire series at 15.
>>724705473>force v-syncWhy would you ever disable it anyways?
>>724711830I do burger voice because that's what I heard on PS3. The lisp, along with the cow lick, is Milla's charm point.
>>724711818Graces F's cast just felt annoying to me. Asbel is such a fuck bland stock MC who's just sort of dumb, but not in a more fun way like Lloyd was. Cheria is the classic annoying love interest who exists to be a love interest. Pasqal is too stupid to function, she's like an even less charming Taiga. The only playable character I remember actually caring about was Sophie.Like you said, the plot was awful, which is a common Tales of problem but Graces was especially bad.The combat was actually the best, but that's a low bar. I don't care enough about combat in Tales games to play them for combat alone, Berseria combat is trash but it's easily the best game.
>>724698542oh wtf it doesnt include Xilia 2? lame
>>724711934>Lloyd is 17Holy shit. I always thought he was also a younger teen, like 14/15.
>>724711934>Jude is a genius, a professional fist fighter and has a harem of women in love with him.>He's also 15And people complain that Ludger is a Mary Sue.
out of curiosity, i remember playing the original dubbed. Did they change the actors?
>>724711963Maybe you have an adaptive refresh rate monitor like almost all of them sold in the past decade?
>>724712246No. The dub is 100% the same.No new actors, no rerecorded voice lines.
>>724711830My wife Leia is voiced by Hayamin. This isn't even a choice.https://soundcloud.com/fuwa2aya/shiroi-kokoro-by-hayami-saori-oreimo-ed
>>724712295Given how it was done with Symphonia, re-recording lines would've given us a terrible product.
>>724712232>and has a harem of women in love with him.Does he? It's been a hell of a long time since I've played it but he obviously has his main love interest in Milla but outside of that the only other character I remember liking him was the childhood friend who I also remember gets shipped off with Alvin later on.
>>724706067Xillia has cool skits, combat, characters and villains, unlike Arise, tho.
>>724712420Elize and Leia also both fall in love with him, so that's all the playable females, plus Muzet teases him a bit, but she also teases Ludger and is pretty heavily shipped with Gaius. Pretty sure a few faceless NPC's also crush on him.
>>724706067>everyone shat on this game before they announced this remasterYou're an idiot, Xillia was always liked well enough alongside Xillia 2. It's no Abyss or Vesperia but it's certainly no Zestiria or Arise, and has a far better setting and cast than Graces.
>>724698542is that a midrifff aiaeeeeeeeeee
>>724708612Let me guess, you also get filtered by Akzeriuth
>>724707342So what's the relevance of your job again? What a loser, lmao.Take your own advice, next time.
>>724707672I hope so. Surely you remember the whole "alt timelines leading to Origin's Trial" kino from X2?
>>724712579Such loved. it's barely beating Arise for Concurrent players lmao.
>>724711934>Jude is canonically the youngest protagonist in the entire series at 15>forgetting Caius and Ruca
>>724700050retard
>>724712905Aren't they all tied?
>>724711830Jude sounds like 10 or 11 in jp.
>>724712970Yes.
>>724710334It is for jap games
>>724706262Arise is also the worst game in the series by a mile. It got lucky it released after Berseria, so people actually had hopes for it and bought it. I played it and its an absolute turd that destroys even the skits tales was famous for.
>>724712579Xillia was always a mixed bag. Next you're gonna say FFXIII was always popular, lol.
>>724708327>She's not even the best Milla, Alt Milla is way betterMy nigger
god I hope we can get more censorship and DLC for the betterment of Israel!
>>724713089>"I knew I wouldn't like you."Alt Milla was the Goat. She told it how it was.
>>724708929She's a likeable bitch and they never explicitly say it they're pretty much undeniably a couple, especially in 2.
>>724713094Alright, retard, aside from the pipe, what else got censored?
>>724708612What the fuck are you talking about
>>724713164>ok retard, aside from the censorship and costumes being removed, what else got censored?! PRAISE ISRAEL AND ANITA
My wife Elize!
>>724708483Doesn't really count when most of the games came out in the 2000s xenophobia era of game journalism.
>>724711715Could you see Elle's panties in Xillia 2?
>>724710929Are the games actually doing bad? From what I've seen of Horizon the games look pretty good. Falcom has really upped its production values, especially in animation which was something people heavily criticized.Only bad thing I heard is that Daybreak 2 is supposedly a shitty filler arc, but that's not something unique to its arc
>>724713339Can you see her panties?
>>724708760>completely undermines everything the first game was working towards achieving making the entire game completely worthless since nothing you did actually fucking matteredBut that's wrong and not only do you see Jude, Gaius and the rest dealing with the promises they made at the end of X1, you also see the ultimate result during the epilogue will Elle looking at her phone and seeing everyone's achievements?
If Tales of Arise was so great, how come there's no NEW Tales games?
>>724713339I like her personality in 2 and her hair down and loli size in 1.
>>724713060>Arise is also the worst game in the series by a mile.You know you can check on steam right? Arise is one of the highest rated Tales of game.>Berseria (the rightful GOAT) 92%>Arise 88%>Graces 87%>Vesperia 84%>Symphonia 84% (honestly a surprise for me, I thought the PC version was scuffed)>Xillia 82%>Zestiria 78% (the only one dipping into Mostly Positiive)
>>724711259Better than all towns in Phantasia, Destiny, Eternia, Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia or Graces
>>724713495>Arise is one of the highest rated Tales of game.You must be one of those retards that can't grasp concepts other than ratings.
>>724713376Can you even see them in this remaster
>>724713473The games take longer now because they actually have to put effort into the graphics now.
>>724713495Highest rated by peolle that never played Tales/only played Final Fantasy means shit.
>>724709749>Graces had a good romancelmfao Cheria and Asbel's relationship is fucking awfully executed.
>>724702337Little bro, I fuck lil girls on the weekly and I'm telling you, they can enjoy sex with adult cocks very much.
>>724713473There's a new mainline indev, you just don't know about it because you don't follow leaks and it's still a few ways off.>・テイルズオブ新作は手を動かし続けているがアナウンスはもうしばらくかかる
>>724713597>muh graphicsIt's so fucking over.
>>724713578You must be one of the people who can't grasp that just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not popular. Arise is objectively the most successful Tales of games, it's highly rated, had the most sales etc.
>>724713454And none of it matters cause of the multiverse nonsense
>>724713578Or maybe I am just not blinded by nostalgia for the older titles?
Why was the Graces remaster so well received on /v/ compared to Xillia?
>>724713629Don't they only bother developing it in the post game arc? Imagine playing the base version on release.
>>724709749Anon. Both of those games had shit romances.Destiny 2's Kyle and Reala is one of the best in the series, I mean come on.
>>724710494Literally who
>>724698542Fuck man. My PS3 is dying. I really don't want to delid it and replace the thermal paste.
>>724706067>doesn't let you combo bosses>also no overworldwhy would you go on the internet and just lie??
>>724713717Graces is a better game, for starters.
The best Tales of Romance is Symphonia because I can fuck my hot, older elf teacher. It's probably Sheena though, proving that they should bring back romance options.
>>724710929Legit can't understand how people like Rean. He's the most generic, boring and lame shonen Gary Stu protagonist imaginable. He's nothing.
>>724713717It's the first new remaster in years. Vesperia DE was in 2019 and Symphonia is just the PC version, available since 2015.After that people were expecting Abyss or even some of the never localized games. Destiny R DC, Phantasia X (we only got the GBA one), etc.Since it's just Xillia, it's underwhelming af and they might end up just porting the PS3 games. Meh.
>>724710601>a bad rap over here because of the dub bullshit "SHARING IS CARING"People like that line idiot, it's just easy to meme
>>724713895haha..
>>724712247VRR is exactly the reason why turning on vsync wont hurt, retard.
>>724713895Has a cool mecha, mysterious powers and is a master swordsman. So more interesting than Estelle and, especially, Lloyd.
>>724713895To be fair, it's not like we don't have are fair share of boring, lame shonen Gary Stu Protags.
>>724711116Is that pic from Nia Khera or Kanbalar? Retard
>>724713895>Estelle encounters a locked door>Huh better go ask the village chief>Lloyd encounters a locked door>Damn I'll never get over this wall>Rean encounters a locked door>Fourth form! He was reasonably refreshing.
>>724713587Elle doesn't exist in Xillia 1. You can see Elize (age 12)'s panties however. Can't post them here because of advertisers.
>>724713430Daybreak 2 is genuinely really bad. Like you say being a filler arc is the norm but no Daybreak is a filler arc amongst filler arcs and it's generally considered to be the single worst game in the series It also did the worst in terms of sales. The newest one is supposedly better being similar to Reverie in structure with the 3 MCs but doesn't really do anything interesting with it and it's also kind of a nothing burger game so people are worried that there's only supposedly going to be like 2-3 more games in the entire series to wrap up everything.>>724713895He's absolutely a better character than Lloyd, that's for sure. Though personally I like Rean cause he's so much of a Gary Stu it loops back round to being kino. Like it's so over the top and yet done completely straightforwardly without even a slight hint of irony it becomes almost endearing.
>>724710845Nobody had the time and energy for all the games about Hahaman except for his true fans. Trails was steadily growing, only to lose a good chunk of players halfway into Cold Steel. His fans left immediately after the arc concluded. The new arc isn't much better, so the series continues to bleed players. The only people left are those who can't move on after spending so much time playing through the entire series.
>>724714149>similar to Reverie in structure with the 3 MCsFucking hate this shit so much. Also hated having to manage different groups in cold steel. Falcom just can't help themselves with the cast bloat, it's ridiculous.
>>724713668>>724713709FFXIII and XV sold more than all games except for VII and X. Doesn't mean they aren't full trash.More people play video games in comparison to the 90s/00s + simultaneous release in multiple platforms.That's all there is to it, not quality.
>>724713720They barely developed any of the relationships in Graces in the main game. Besides, I like that they didnt go for the obvious path and make Sophie into Asbel's gf.
>>724714264>>724714149Bros, please tell me what lies between D and B...
>>724714265>WordsOkay, but that doesn't change the fact that Arise is more popular. That's like saying Limbus is more popular than Genshin because it has a really dedicated fanbase.
>>724714338Cock and balls.
>>724698542Did they remove that darkening filter they had on the PS3 original for this remaster?It was slapped on in such a way that even the company logos on startup were darkened lol
>>724714351Arise sold the most but I doubt its the actual most popular game in the series among the fanbase.
>>724711594Same, I stopped at some point in the second half when you're going around the world unearthing dungeons for... reasons I don't remember. I did a Tytree related one and a Mao related one where it was revealed he had no past was created by one of the gods basically. Honestly, it's kind of a boring game with a boring world and a boting cast carried mainly by aesthetics and soundtrack.
>>724714264Man tell me about it. Managing like 20+ characters in CS4 got so unbelievably old so quickly. Though thankfully despite being another 3 MC game the cast in Horizon is actually much smaller with the cast that you can play as also being way more limited this time.
>>724714434Dont post based Hilda and then insult her game.
>>724714097>can't post pantsu shots on 4chan of all places anymoreit's over..
>>724714351It's not. Arise's new fans moved on. Game is always criticized in Tales circles nowadays.DLC bombed, even the fans of the game didn't get it.
>>724714430I don't even entirely disagree, but that's ignoring the fact that Arise broke out of the smaller Tales of fanbase and became more mainstream. There is a large number of people who have only played Arise, which makes it one of the most popular by essentially default.
>>724714521What exactly is wrong with Arise?I haven't played it but I find it a bit hard to believe a game can be worse than Zestiria.
>>>72471433850 mira....
>>724713082>a mixed bagSo exactly what I said: no Abyss, but no Zestiria either.
>>724714521Arise, a 4 year old game, currently has roughly 70% of the players that Xillia, a brand new remaster which released this week has. That's way more staying power.
>>724713683>none of it mattersBut that's wrong>cause of the multiverseThe multiverse that makes damn sure the events of X1 are the ONLY ones that ever happened?
>>724714582here's the problems it has regarding gameplay only but to me, the story, characters and skits are biggest offenders especially skits which even worst tales game before arise were at least very entertaining to listen.
>>724713717Don't treat shitposters seriously
Not bundling in Xillia 2 is genuinely insane. What are they planning to do, hype it up as another Remake in 5 years? Or just awkwardly pretend it doesn't exist after this flopped?
>>724714582>worst gameplay in the series that is so stiff and clunky that I'd barely even call it playable>awful cast of characters with them having the personality of cardboard with absolutely zero chemistry with each other>really bland and forgettable story that doesn't go anywhere with really terrible pacingOutside of the visuals that are genuinely quite impressive at times Arise honestly has zero redeeming qualities and most aspects of it aren't just mediocre they're straight up bad.
>>724714582It's a mix of things, from shallow combat, tanky enemies to villains and pacing, but overall it's Ok, just not sure if the 5 years of development were worth it. People saying it's worse than Zestiria or Dawn of the New World are either memeing or just have the shittiest taste ever.
>>724713895You say that but after playing the Crossbell arc I was actually happy to play as Rean again. Lloyd is the most boring generic goody-two-shoes totally dense slice of white bread I've ever seen in a JRPG. At least Rean has chuuni appeal with his katana and edgy dark demon blood or whatever
>>724712081I think graces is a weird game for me where all the characters fit the most common anime/jrpg character tropes 1:1 yet their actual interactions between each other in scenes and skits is imo some of the best in the series. Everyone seems to bounce off every other character in these scenes and it's really nice to see everytime I replay
>>724714069Meant for >>724711259
>>724714881I know about Zestiria, I was asking about Arise though.
>>724714983I liked Lloyd. He's just a normal, dumb as a brick (just like Estelle) guy. Definitely a better protagonist choice than whatever the fuck rean was.
>>724714480She's one of the good parts of it
>>724714720One is a new game, other is a remaster of an old game available for 13~15 years by now. Show us what staying power Arise had if no one bought the DLC or merch.
>>724714985yeah, it's weird. the plot is objectively kind of ass, and i hated it around the third time you go to protect a magic crystal.the characters were great, though, and everything comes together well by the end. i look back on the story fondly, even though i'd never sit through those cutscenes again.
>>724704592because they're lazy jew and vesperia is already been done and graces was released earlier this year. so xillia is obvious choice to port and want to milk tales fans even more instead of giving us the duology we deserve.
>>724714983Imagine having an arc
>>724715094I liked him at first but he's just not enough to carry 2 games worth 120 hours of playtime. He's just kind of a walking nothing-person with zero edge to his personality. Couldn't even commit to him being a "has all his shit together" character either because he's just not particularly cool either and has to be dense as a brick around every woman in typical harem fashion
>>724715132Arise isn't a new game, it's 4 years old and released on basically every system. Xillia released a few days ago, for the first time not locked to a single system the PS3. In a months time, Arise will probably have more players than Xillia.
>>724706681>>724702112>>724707521>>724707607>Underestimating Bamco's retardation. Allow me to remind you that these are the same people that thought removing the Tales from Tales games would be the way forward for the series as well as that removing the bullet crafting that set God Eater apart from other games needed to be gutted.
>>724714983It's not even close, honestly. Rean is a Xenogears/Xenosaga/Xenoblade protagonist in Kiseki.Lloyd might as well be a NPC.
>>724715194The funny thing about Rean though is that his arc is pretty much pointless since he emerges from everything completely unscathed, as if it never happened. Like the guy doesn't suffer any lasting consequences from anything. Just rebounds to being perfectly fine every single time.
>>724714489The mods get really mad when you post these.
>>724715094Lloyd (and to a lesser extent Symphonia as a whole) just has it's party members "feel" to young for me to enjoy playing. They aren't bad, and I'm sure as a teen I would have loved it, but I just get weary of the cast now.
>>724715412>ReanIts not correct to say that nothing ever happened to Rean. Its more accurate to say that they keep resetting Rean's arc for no reason.
>>724715369It absolutely needed to be gutted. It was all head explosion bullet, slash to recharge, head explosion bullet. Repeat till monster dies.
>>724698542>The younger they are the more skin they showHeh...
>>724715094Rean is a decently written character with a pretty well handled arc through his 4-5 games. The issue is his character moments kind of repeat themselves a bit ans feel kind of dragged on with him needing to learn the same lessons like 4 times before he actually learns them. But he's the protagonist for 4 whole ass games so that's somewhat to be expected.>>724715412I mean yeah that's the point? His friends keep having to bail his ass out.
>>724698542Is this going to be one of these remakes that get censored and have less content again?
>>724715345Arise was a new game in 2021, it sold 2 million really fast, eventually reaching 3 million sale it after 3~4 years. Xillia was 10 years old in 2021, and it's even older now, why a remaster would sell more than a new game?
>>724715624I don't expect it to sell more, but I expect it to have more than a 1200 players currently when Arise has 800.
>>724715449kek. That post is talking about Kiseki Lloyd not Tales Lloyd.
>>724715412Change that to Lloyd and still works
>>724715617Not a remake and it has the exact same amount of base game content.Then it has most of its paid DLCs bundled in, so it actually has more content than the original.
>>724715617See >>724705531
>>724708493>ruined
>>724715753Fucking Lloyds. Damn japs need more names.
>>724698542It's baffling that they're releasing this alone and not with Xillia 2, who gives a shit about these fuck ugly gaudy-ass costumes?
>>724715747I don't, especially after not even bundling it with the second game. It was hardly a requested remaster, eeither.
>>724711415>If they didn't remove the skit where Alvin jokes around with Jude's sexuality asking if he's gay and then bisexual>tfw that same joke is made about Leanne in Resonance of Fate>same voice
>>724714864>Or just awkwardly pretend it doesn't exist after this flopped?probably this. this whole "remaster project" idea feels like they're doing it with a gun to their head and would rather work on anything other than tales. they mixed up a life bottle with a panacaea bottle for fuck's sake
>>724715898Yet Graces F managed to peak at 3.5k, nearly three times more than Xillia. It's not being a remaster that's an issue here, and the fact that Arise is keeping up shows it's overall more popular.
>>724705059It's possible that part of the licensing deal blocked using just the costume alone but that's really stretching it. It's more likely what you wrote, that simply just taking the DLC out completely was the least amount of effort.
>>724714864>>724716018They're currently working on at absolute minimum 2 more remaster projects so it's fairly likely one of them will be Xillia 2.
>>724716018>they mixed up a life bottle with a panacaea bottleThey what now
>>724714864Eh, most of the work has probably already been done for Xillia 2. Even if they just released it in a bundle with Xillia 1 it will probably do a lot better than Xillia has.
>>724708901You literally kill millions.
>>724715898Everyone knew X was coming. The blow back was not bundling X2.
>>724715867Reception to the game aside, I'm still confused why DotNW was never ported alongside Symphonia to PC and eventually other platforms when they already did most of the work with remastering it for PS3 alongside Symphonia. Bamco works in strange ways.
>Skits in Xillia remaster are fucked because they are tied to 30fps framerateLol. Lmao even.
>>724716214By (You) you mean Elize ?
>>724716029Moving goalpost to Graces now? Arise had no staying power, no one bought the DLC and everybody criticizes it in the first opportunity.What Xillia and Steam numbers have to do with it? Xillia was always a mixed bag in the fanbase as well.
>want to replay Xillia 2>remember how much I absolutely hated the endings>lose any will to replay Xillia 2I'm somewhat glad they didn't bundle 2 in with 1 cause they absolutely would have jacked the price up.
>>724717405Xillia 2's true ending is peak and it makes me cry every time, what's wrong with you?
>>724717473>completely cringe arbitrary ass bittersweet garbage that makes no logical sense and exists only for the sake of handing an ending choice "choose who dies lmao"It's trash. Not only is it hte worst ending in the series but one of the worst endings of any video game ever. I cannot put into words how much the endings genuinely ruined the entire game.
>>724717349Arise has more people playing it than any of the other tales of games, besides the newly released Xillia, and even then it has 70% of the players. You said Xillia doesn't count because remasters don't do well, but Graces did three times better than Xillia, so it's clearly not a remaster issue.
>>724717567Damn it's like you have no media literacy at all and ignored every theme explored by the plot.
>>724717473Does Xillia 2 have a true ending? I thought it had the bad ending, then two endings where you can choose which one you want, with neiter explicitily being the "true" one.
>>724717656It's hard to take Xillia themes seriously when the sequel completely tosses out the themes of the first game.
>>724717567You sound mad>>724717686I don't know if they've ever been officially referred to as such but the general idea is Elle dying is Neutral and Ludger dying is True. The latter is the only one that gets the typical Tales credits with images of the cast instead of just a black screen with white credits text
>>724717656>themes>exploredXillia 2 has no thematic backbone. It's the most lazy and contrived shit imaginable and says absolutely nothing beyond "well sometimes you have to accept bad things happen I guess" while showing that in the most insultingly stupid way imaginable.
>>724717686Yeah it's the hotspring ending.>>724717757Ah I see, you are illiterate.
>>724717630FFXIII and XV had more sales than Chrono Trigger. What game is more popular and remembered fondly?
>>724717567>Not only is it hte worst ending in the series but one of the worst endings of any video game everPlay more games
>>724717819>You sound madI fucking am>>724717852I've played more games than your small feeble brain is capable of comprehending.
>>724717567Are you the same retard from >>724708612? You were already BTFO then, you can stop seething now.
>>724717896Yeah I very much doubt that, tourist
>>724717896Well be mad in silence, the grown-ups are talking
>>724717827>No, you can't sacrifice others to save the world Gaius, you're wrong!>Skibbidy Do, Here we go, killing worlds again.>>724717850FFXIII and XV obviously, because more people played and enjoyed them. That's what popular means retard.
>Not Abyss remasterI sleep
>>724718047Let it go.
>>724717821It does some incredibly unique things with its story and has some excellent moments like whenever Red Milla dies and the first games cast is like "Well anyway, nice to have you back Real Milla." meanwhile Elle and Ludger are traumatized over losing her.The fact that it's able to play with such an established group of friends and show their difference in perspective to the new hero demonstrates certain dilemmas which showcase the idea that "what is real is that which has meaning", which is usually pretty difficult to pull off.It's a pretty unique story across all JRPGs, let alone the Tales of franchise, which is otherwise remarkably samey from entry to entry.>friendship good>slavery badWoah.
Good luck trying to prove that XIII and XV are more popular, tourist.Sales will never reflect popularity. Sales means the marketing team were successful to convince that casuals, bots and tourists like you are easily deceived to buy a trash game.
>>724717968>Skibbidy Do, Here we go, killing worlds again.It would be mental if Ludger began to doubt that MO and regret it!
>>724717405Filtered by kinohttps://youtu.be/YU4qT3yEPhc
>>724718170Ludger is the only character who should be let off scott free because he wasn't part of the first game. It's wild how quickly the 1st cast throw away their morals when it's no longer their world that needs to be sacrificed. It's also kind of lame how little Gaius has to say about the hypocritical circumstances, though I do like how willing he is to kill Julius, it's in character to be willing to jump straight into the tough choice.
Berseria did basically the exact same thing that Xillia 2 did with it's ending but way better and in a way that actually made sense in the context of the story and not a massive contrived asspull.
>>724718097The Elle dying ending is really fucked up considering the whole Milla situation. Like the game clearly establishes that for Ludger and Elle, Alt Milla is their Milla and important, but then we're supposed to be happy our Elle dies, but Ludger will get a replacement Elle?
>>724718316It's just normal human psychology to prioritize local safety over remote safety, everyone one Earth thinks this way.
>>724718047There's at least 2 remasters in development, and chances are that the one that isn't Xillia 2 is Abyss.https://www.siliconera.com/bandai-namco-files-tales-of-the-abyss-trademark/
>>724718415No, you aren't, that's why that ending is heartbreaking to watch.Especially if you're a father.
>>724718409Not really
>>724718409I hardly rmeember anything about Berseria and I've played it much more recently than X2, so it can't possibly be nearly as poignant
>>724718430Yes, but that's still completely discarding the themes of the first game and is entirely hypocrtical, and it's weird that they took the story this direction and never really address it.
>>724718409Berseria is just the trolly problem where Velvet would pull the lever to kill everyone to save her little brother, even if he's screaming at her to do otherwise.It's irrational self interest versus cold utilitarianism.
>>724718430That is a fucking awful argument given their empathy extended to the entire fucking world in Xillia 1 which is NOT how "human psychology" works. They're basically equally as divorced so them suddenly not caring is absolutely nothing more than bad writing.
>>724718494I disagree, the music and framing is clearly supposed to make us feel like this is a good thing, when it really shouldn't be.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T3_PDlD87c
>>724718537A broader exploration of the theme is not the same as discarding the theme.
I think the thing that rubs me the wrong way about Xillia 2's endings is the fact that it's a choice in the first place. Sacrificing Ellie is absolutely not something Luger would ever do so it being a choice in the first place literally makes zero sense. It absolutely does feel like it only exists because they wanted to have an ending choice. The game should have only had one ending.
>>724718612Nier did it better.>>724718694But it's not a broader exploration of a theme, it's entirely dropping it. The party went from "you should sacrifice things, be that people are worlds" to casually destroying multiple worlds for a lunch break. The entire 1st games cast pull a complete 180 in motivations for no real reason. Do they even try and find another solution?
>>724718791It's worth including bad ends to show why they are bad ends. Same with refusing to kill Julius.I miss when more games had more endings.
>>724718936Not if it's completely out of character. An out of character bad ending completely undermines every other ending because that shapes how we perceive said characters.
>>724718791>the thing that rubs me the wrong way about Xillia 2's endings is the fact that it's a choice in the first placeThe entire game has been about choices. The game's tagline is straight up 選択が未来を紡ぐRPG>Sacrificing Ellie is absolutely not something Luger would ever doThe fact Victor did it during his own version of events of X2 means that's wrong. Ludger has it in him, just like he has it in him to slaugther the entire party to protect his brother
Life must be tough for marketers who make these threads to sell their game only for the thread to contain nothing but arguments over the ending, spoiling it all for potential new players.
>>724719042Retarded tranny go back to some other new game thread where anyone gives a shit.
>>724719042I mean, if you want to jump into a new game, the last place anyone should be going is 4chan of all places.
Ellie dies in both endings by the way. One ending the future Ellie is erased from existence and in other ending she's erased from existence by virtue of Luger being erased never conceiving Ellie in the first place.
>>724719042/v/ has always been a Tales board
I have too many games to play, including this one
>>724718409Berseria's combat sucks, tho, while Xillia 2 is one of the best in that regard.
>>724719161Incorrect, she's able to exist as an ontological paradox just fine.I always wished there had been a Xillia 3 with her as the protagonist.
>>724719042If everything is marketing then nothing is
>>724718474It's Xillia 2 + at least 2. So 3 at minimun.
>>724698542I told you that rpcs3 version is superior but you didn't listen
>>724698542I already beat this game and the sequel. In fact they're both still installed on my PS3. Cant imagine being retarded enough to pay more for a worse product. Why are they even remastering this instead of Tales of Abyss or something? Xillia hasn't even aged that much.
>>724705531>I assume the middle finger being changed to pointing is also still inNope. It's not.They actually uncensored it.https://www.esrb.org/ratings/40615/tales-of-xillia-remastered/>one character is shown with a raised middle finger
>>724719285100% one is going to be a Symphonia ReRemaster.
>>724719295RPCS3 won't solve loadings and shittier textures. Max fps is 60fps there, too.
>>724719285Supposedly.What was said is that there's at least 2 in the works with one of them being announced very soon, and that Xillia 2's is also in development and that there'll be news about it at some point.It can be interpreted as 2+X2, or the 1 that will be announced soon and X2.
I can't go back to the garbage writing and blue balling between Jude and Milla in this game after playing Arise. The way they leave off their relationship in Xillia 2 ending still pisses me off.
>>724719327>Why are they even remastering thisBecause until now it was trapped in PS3 exclusive jail.At least with Abyss you can play it on your gameboy.
>>724719493Why? Jude solved the Spyrite some years later and Milla can re-materialize in the world. It ended fine.
>Graces F is on sale at 35% off>while Xillia's barely getting its foot outlmao
is there some excel sheet some autist(s) have made that lists all the best versions of every game is? after thousands of remasters/remakes/rereleases, how the fuck can you wade through it all in a timely manner? it’s a job at this point just to figure out the best version of any one game to play
Any mods yet?Hehehehe, you know the type.Asking for a friend by the way.
>better loading times>dual audio>fixed the middle finger thing>people will somehow still call this the worse product
>>724719704I felt this way about Final Fantasy some years back and honestly the Pixel Remasters are the way I'd recommend 1-6 now quite easily compared to before when the best versions were spread out over PSX, PSP, Wonderswan Color, Super Nintendo and Gameboy Advance, all of them with their own boons and flaws.Console games really don't think about the future very often, Japanese ones even less so.
>>724719228Imagine
>>724719825Well there's no idolmaster for one.
>>724719407Holy shit, huge if true
>>724719295>rpcs3 version is superiorGuy who finished the PS3 version on RPCS3 like 2 weeks ago here.It isn't.>Gotta use reshade or a game-specific patch to deal with the washed out colors>Gotta fiddle around to get the DLC in.>Gotta use older builds because the newer ones either perform worse or have a problem with the audio where it cuts off and you have to move to another map to bring it back.>30 FPS in the overworld vs the remaster that runs at 60/120 (on the platforms that matter anyway.)>Depending on your CPU, poor performance (specially on big cities like Sharilton or Xian Du) and audio stuttering issuesMeanwhile the PC version runs at rock-solid 60 FPS, it has most of the DLC bundled in by default and it looks great, and it doesn't require any sort of fiddling whatsoever.The emulated PS3 version is worse all around and I already removed my PS3 Xillia 1 files from RPCS3's HDD yesterday, knowing full well I will never go back to it.
>>724719664No they get teased and shipped together for two straight games just for it to remain status quo at the end. I hate that kind of garbage. Don't write them romantically if you're not gonna commit.
>>724719493What's weirder is that in 2, Muzet also leaves and it's supposed to be as emotional, but doesn't she have the ability to freely jump between worlds unless I missed something?
>>724719859And yet the pixel remasters are dogshit. They couldn’t even sync animations on a 2d game and they are inferior looking to the original releases.
>>724719704The only game with a controversial port/remaster is Symphonia, for every other one just go with the new rereleases and that's it
>>724719825>Skits are completely fucked.
>>724719976what i dont get about the pipe censorshipcouldn't they have added bubbles or something to the pipe to show its a toy
>>724720104I would be honestly ok with them rererereleasing Symphonia if not for just us to finally have an updated version of Symphonia that isn't complete trash.
>>724719407>>one character is shown with a raised middle fingerNow that's a surprise. Cool.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2606852201?t=2h25m18s
>>724720202All they have to do is give the Vesperia/Graces/Xillia treatment to the PS3 version of Symphonia, and it will be perfect. I don't get how Zestiria PC worked so well but Symphonia PC shat itself.
>>724720194Japanese laws. Even if it's fake, it still endorses using one and that's a no-no nowadays there.
>>724720087You're welcome to that opinion but I found them good enough after changing the font back to the SNES font, and having a consistent style for all the early games and having it just work is really nice instead of download ten different emulators.Whenever I'm installing the SNES audio quality restoration patch on a GBA rom I just start to wonder what I'm doing with my life.
>>724720534Sure but there's German laws against blood and stuff so humans get turned into evil robots or pinyatas and stuff and that's fine.
>>724720534You got source on that? Seems outrageous.
>>724720461Zestiria was made with PC in mind but Symphonia was ported from the PS2.Japanese developers are notorious for throwing away their source code after a project is done assuming it will never be useful ever again.
Why are there a bunch of doujins with futa Elle fucking Ludger
>>724720136The fuck are you on about?
>>724720697*shrug*Some countries are more anal over their laws.Like I have no idea how the zombie guy in All Saints Street finally got in the animated series when Chinese laws are against showing off skeletons or something.Like in World Flipper: the Chinese ending up editing the art a floating skeleton in a robe into a floating empty robot in a robe instead.
>>724720828Skits triggers in Xillia are tied to the framerate somehow, which was locked at 30fps on the PS3. On consoles, where the FPS is locked at 60, areas with multiple that trigger back to back are having issues triggering, taking more than 5 minutes to actually appear, or on PC's with higher framerates simply never triggering at all.
>>724719228>I always wished there had been a Xillia 3 with her as the protagonist.She'd be doomed to give up her life eventually though.Her full name is Elle Mel Marta, after all - a portemanteau of Martel; the Mana tree goddess.
>>724720809It's one very dedicated artist.
>>724698542I beat this game like fucking 20 goddamn years ago. Can we for FUCKS SAKE GET SOME NEW FUCKING GAMES THAT ARENT DOGSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT? SOME NEW GAMES MAYBE? CAN WE GET SOME NEW GAMES PLEASE?wHY AM i SEEING THE SAME FUCKING GAMES FROM TWENTY FUCKING YEARS AGO? CAN WE FUCKING GET SOME NEW GAMES?CAN JEWS STOP BUYINNG STUDIOS THEN INSTANTLY RUNNING THEM INTO THE FUCKING GROUND? WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>724719420>Symphonia ReRemasterTechnically - wouldn't that be a ReReRemaster? Given that the existing PC remaster was already a remaster of the PS3 remaster of the PS2 version of the gmae?
>>724721129It's nice to replay games you've liked in the past, anone
>>724698542I love Elize. Glad it's not censored but I'm not buying it at full price like Graces f. Graces f is just the better game. Maybe I'll pirate it eventually.
>>724709623PreSA not PreSEA, niggers just can't be bothered to finish their homeschooling.
>>724698542So basically no reason to chose it over rpcs3 version?
>>724719979But they did commit? They're just in a long-distance relationship. Milla can't actually leave the spirit realm unattended for long. She took the mantle of the legit Maxwell after the original got his just come-uppance.
>>724721000>tied to the framerateGroriosu Nihon gamu - preasu undastandu.
>>724721129>>724713647>There's a new mainline indev, you just don't know about it because you don't follow leaks and it's still a few ways off.>>・テイルズオブ新作は手を動かし続けているがアナウンスはもうしばらくかかる
>>724719704No, but it's easy to write it:Phantasia X (no spell pausing)Destiny R DCEternia PSP (60fps battles)Destiny 2 stil untranslatedSymphonia, NGC for 60fps fights, HD for 30fps battles but more Artes and costumesLegendia only PS2Rebirth, PS2 translationAbyss PS2, 3DS has lower loadings tho, but 30fps battles and much lower texturesInnocence RHearts and Hearts R are both great and olay differentVesperia DEGraces RemasteredXillia RemasteredXillia 2 Remastered in a few months, only PS3 exists for nowZestiria PC/PS4Berseria PC/PS4Arise PC
>>724719979First thing she does when she returns in Xillia 2 is touch Jude's lips. She absolutely wants him but doesn't understand what to do about it.
>>724721356The only reason to choose the PS3 version are those specific costumes that were removed.Otherwise the remaster is objectively better as it was explained above.
>>724721618Whoops, Phantasia X is also still untranslated btw, only PS1 for now, btw. The fanpatch will likely release next year. Hearts DS is also untranslated.
>>724721618Phantasia PSP is better since no story changes but retains a lot of good gameplay changes.
>>724720461>the PS3 version of SymphoniaThe PS3 version of Symphonia was already shit-cancer. Courtesy of being a minimal effort straight port of the PS2 version. Reduced texture fidelity, heavily downgraded cel-shading from the GC version, 10 FPS overworld map, and all.
>>724721786NTA, but by Phantasia PSP you probably mean Phantasia FVE, yeah?That one's never going to be translated, so it's a tough sell for any western fan.
>>724721732KALRAEROTIC
>>724704592>like port over/remake/remaster Tales of Destiny 1, Tales of Destiny 2They would like to sell more than 10 copies, anon. Nobody gives a shit about those games.
>>724721820PS3 symphonia also has missing dialog boxes
>>724708327Alt Millia's a whiny cunt.
I liked both Graces and Xillia but they're also unfortunately games I've already played so I would like to have one I haven't even played before like Abyss or Hearts R.
>>724721786The voiced version? Isn't it the same as PS1?
>>724721618>Legendia only PS2Only tales I've never played so I hope for a remaster but not just a port a real one.
>>724722047That's cool and all, but I rather have a game I haven't played or that I had to play in suboptimal conditions released natively in my platform of choice tyvm.
>>724722047I dunno how to feel about Hearts. It was fun to play, but the story and antagonists are so fucking terrible that I dropped it. Hisui at least got to win the rockbowl.
I love Milla
>>724720461Zestiria PC is 30fps without mods, it's a shitty port too.
>>724722184What?
>>724720784Its less throwing away and more that many of them didnt have the space to keep them or just kept iterating on the same base over and over again, so only the newest one exists.
>>724719976Agreed. I did the same with Graces some months ago.Installing DLCs/license is annoying. I hate the RPCS3.
>>724721846>>724722132The 2006 psp version, japs were very adamant that this was the best version of Phantasia. Narikiri Dungeon X is known as kusoge over there.
>>724722184Why is he like this?
>>724719407BASEDBASEDBASED.>uncensored panties shots, including of the 12 year old girl>middle finger uncensored>all skits uncensoredWE WON!!!!!!!!
>>724721618Innocence DS and R are both worth playing.
>>724722572>uncensored panties shots, including of the 12 year old girlproofs?
>>724722490>NDX is known as a kusogeWhere's the proof?
Holy shit I totally forgot how Xillia was the absolute definition of "mid". It has absolutely nothing going for it but it also isnt really that bad. Its a perfect 5/10 game. Still good to see another Tales game getting ported to modern consoles/PC. Still would have prefered Abyss as its still stuck on PS2 and fucking 3DS of all things. Pretty funny how Symphonia got like 10 remakes while all Abyss got was a shitty 3ds port.
>>724722490The version that comes bundled with NDX is ToPX.So yeah, you're talking about the FVE which is, again, unlikely to ever be translated.LBP are translating ToPX and they're seemingly close to finish it, but given there's no mention to FVE in their project list (https://www.lifebottle.org/#/), it'll probably remain japanese-exclusive.
>>724722642The beginning of xillia has Agria flashing her panties non-stop. It's a little distracting honestly.
>>724722642>>724704313
>>724722708>>724722710I thought you guys had pictures of the pantsu...
>>724722678I'm fine with X1 because it means X2 is close behind which is a really great game. Abyss I hope is soon after since it's one of my favorite games of all time.
>>724722490Really doubt about it and doubt they would consider Kusoge just because of a new character.
>>724722759I do, if you want it that bad I'll transfer some screens from my ps5.
>>724722678Yeah, same. When I saw those open fields with the crawl spaces and item icons it all came back to me. Story is mid too so are most characters.
>>724722846Any pictures of Elize's panties? Asking for a friend who is a scientist!
>>724722586Innocence DS had the worst dungeons in the series after Tempest and Legendia, tho. I see no reason to play it over DS.
>>724722846Pretty please :3
>>724722678It lacked costumes and the frame rate was trash. It's fine now.
>>724722759This is the only one I can nab because she's a spaz and constantly moving around and the ps5 has a very slow ass share button. There was another scene where she's bent over a railing with her ass sticking out and one where she's flipping out and bends way the fuck back with her legs spread but I was too slow to get those.
>>724720534No source means this is purely a CERO rating issue.
>>724722913There are some plot adjustments that I wasnt a fan of. Innocence R's dungeons werent particularly good either.As for Tempest's "dungeons", those barely even exist. It has one real dungeon early on in the cathedral and nothing to talk about after that. They're pretty mid by sheer virtue of being plain.
>>724722572So what the fuck was that “Certain expressions changed” bit about the original reveal of the game? No one has been able to find anything other than the pipe removal
>>724723017In the Ichigo Mashimaro anime they had to change the age of the older sister to 18+ because she smoke among others things. (they also removed all panties shots so it's shit)
>>724723000Found it on youtube albeit in shit quality
>>724698601Another day, anothor censorship apologist troon looking for any and all excuses. The context of them owning Im@s makes it even funnier, especially you faggots quadrupling down on the retardation after getting embarrassed learning that little fun fact, since you're tertiaries.
>>724723247Jojo part 3 still kept Jotaro smoking but censored it for TV as it was a BPO broadcast standard, blurays were uncensored. Again, this feels like a rating issue instead of arts censorhip one.
>>724707124That's like asking if you can watch Lord of the Rings Return of the King without watching the first two parts. It's a continuation of the same fucking story with the same fucking party for the most part.
This is the first time since the original release I've played X1. You can really tell it's unfinished and why X2 was so necessary.
Unironically my favorite battle theme in the serieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdK0_gxgKEw
>>724722312It also has some REALLY shitty and wonky rounding error in its character rigging vertex shaders, which cause entire character models to sometimes explode into polygon soup and plaster all over the screen, if you happen to look at them from juuu----st the wrong angle. (Which can happen from halfway across the map / zone, because the game doesn't do distance or frustrum culling quite properly.)
>>724723214The Japanese site literally shows what was changed: the pipe.
>>724706705>Should I play 1 to better understand 2?Hmmmmmm I wonder anon.
>>724723651>X1 is unfinished>X2 didn't finish it and also feels unfinished
>>724723707for me its https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N36l9r7yfE
>>724708272Was she made to suffer?
>>724724010The american and european pages also stated:>Some expressions have been adjusted from the original work to suit age-appropriate audiences.https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/tales-of-xillia-remastered-whats-newAnd that's besides the pipe, because they list that directly below.
Xillia looks so good now
>>724706705Can you watch The Empire Strikes Back without watching A New Hope? Sure, but it would be retarded to do so.
>>724721393No they're not in a relationship. Nothing is ever confirmed. The writers themselves never confirm it when they're asked because everything has to be open and status quo. It's wishy washy bullshit that nips love so much.
>>724708696Probably not.
>Turn on Vsync>Game runs at double speed>turn off vsync>Insane screen tearing
>>724724185I looked at it again. No matter how I look at it, it's basically stating that this item and its description has been changed. The text you are quoting is basically a description of the pipe. People on Steam haven't found anything else changed and even the middle finger is now uncensored in the English version.
>>724698542Sale when?
>>724724239Until you leave that one town. Its pretty obvious that the only reason for this place to exist was making pretty screenshots. Either that or they started enthusiastic and lost interest after the first month and starting shitting out lazy ass towns and fields. Its pretty crazy how literally only that one place looks cool and once you leave it it feels like youre playing an early PS2 shovelware game.
>>724723707Sakuraba can make some good shit when he isn't just phoning it in.
>idolmaster music plays while wearing the costumeSo its most likely the record company being annoying then.
>>724724185>>724724450The Japanese version makes more senses basically the whole "Change some expressions from the original version" part is a title of what's happening then the description of the change of the pipe is showing what was changed.
>>724724573Pretty wacky, anyway, Go Shiina composed some of my favorite Imas music as well as Tales music isn't that something?
>>724723214>>724724450>it's basically stating that this item and its description has been changed.If there were any changes you're not going to find them unless you play both the PS3 version and the remaster side by side and autistically check each and every single line of dialogue anyway.
>>724721276>call a character a european word for catchWhat did they mean by this?
Why is the person responsible for Tales game soundtracks unable to make more than, like, 10 different songs? Its like every Tales game I play has the same slightly altered soundtrack (which was never particulary good in the first place). They would be better of to just let AI make the next soundtrack.
>>724722024At least she has a personality, plus her "romance" with Ludger is miles better than Jude and Milla's "no hugging or kissing romance".
>>724706067I used to post in the Tales thread saying i preferred Xillia over 2 before all of this. I'm just used to the fact that the fandom can't agree on anything at the end of the day. Same as it ever was.
>>724724450You have to realize at this point that the anon you're replying to is a shitposter concern trolling right?
>>724724573Imagine if the rights holder sued them.
>>724724851I wouldn't call it a romance but he did accidentally grab her titty.
Graces may not have the best characters but it does have the best end of battle lines.
>>724723707For me, it's https://youtu.be/6lb_iFcCaxk?t=37
>>724724953>They lost the rights to Idolmaster music when they renamed themselves to Bandai Namco
>>724724554I am pretty sure this isn't by Sakuraba lol
>>724724890>not posting the updated version
>>724708186I had completely forgot about this woman. I'll probably pick this up along with Xillia 2 later on when it goes on sale.
>>724708612This. When the only ending with remote positivity for the entire cast is the joke ending in the arena where the cameos from Phantasia and Destiny use the Eternal Sword to deus ex machina the plot without sacrifices, that's a problem.
>>724725213Voiced by Liara/Lightning btw
If Teepo molests a guy, does that mean you can send Elize to jail?
>>724709156Aww yeah, Rollo spicing up those skits!
>>724702337>as long as it doesn't involve other parties such as musicTherein lies your problem
>>724725259>the only ending with remote positivity for the entire castDid you finish the true ending with your eyes closed?
>>724725136Surprising I know but sometimes he does stuff that sounds different, like whenever he just randomly composed the Dark Souls OST
Xillia is the only Tales game where I wish we played the villains. Gaius and his crew are so much cooler. I would like a Tales game where we played the actual badies, no Berseria doesn't count, they are morally questionable at worst. Laphi and Eleanor basically gut all the sharp edgyness the cast otherwise had.
>>724725412Dark Souls' OST is a cacophonous mess which feels pretty in line with his works for Tales of. Idunno, that track sounds completely different from his usual stuff like it's done by a guest composer
>the cut parallel world where Leia was never born and she finds out literally nothing changes>on top of the ones where she got to be friends with AgriasWhy did they bully her so much?
>>724713241He's a troll. Ignore him. He's been making random shit up about Xillia 2 every chance he gets.
>>724725482It do be like that sometimes, like with Zestiria, 25% of the OST was done by Shiina instead and you can instantly tell which tracks are his because they are the only good ones.
>>724724485All wrong
>>724715369My wife!
>>724717908>Elle is the best, ELLE YEAH!
>>724725576The fact they never gave him another full OST is criminal. If there's one redeeming aspect of Legendia aside from bodysuit tomboy knight it's that the OST is 11/10.
>>724725550God gives his toughest battles to his silliest soldiers
>>724725698He left the company seven years ago.
>>724725550Why did she only become a character in the sequel?
>>724725550Damn, the nothing changes parallel world is pretty brutal. No wonder they cut it. Seems pretty excessive.
>>724725136It is by him.His compositions nowadays usually have "instruments" like that shitty drum tempo which is obvious along with a mess of notes that try to get carried by the offbeat.
>>724725783The sequel is better written in general.
>>724718186This game broke my hearts so badly. I've never experienced such complete Soul Devastation as I did when I completed this game. Heart literally shredded to pieces :(((
>>724725594This looks worse than FF10, a 10 year older game on a previous system.
>>724725783She was assigned to be Jude's fall back/safety girl once big titty goddess leaves his life, so she had to be non offensive. Sequel let her ditch him.
>>724725763There were like 8 Tales games between Legendia and when he left Bamco
>>724725392>Spirits are sealed forever in their realms, meaning Jude can't see Milla ever again>same for Gaius in relation to Mùzet to an extentYeah, real happy ending, i guess.
Sylph tummy
>>724725980Can't Muzet travel freely? Seeing as she isn't Maxwell.
>>724725980No? Milla is only stuck for as long as she has to maintain the balance of the world. Once Jude invents Pokemon, the spirit dispersion is stabilized and nobody needs to kill spirits with tech to survive. Then Milla is free to do as she wishes.
>>724725748>abusing weelchairsKarma is a bitch, innit.
>>724725850As it should, had 20x the budget
>>724726068Muzet was sealed and needed Gaius as a battery IIRC
>>724725550>the cut parallel world where Leia was never born and she finds out literally nothing changesDamn
>>724726360I assume Gaius "I'll take responsibility" who Muzet clearly is affectionate for would be a willing battery for Muzet to stick around, unless I'm misremembering something specific in the ending which prevents her from sticking around.
>>724725938He was busy composing Idolmaster songs.
>>724725980Do you guys play games with console off?
>>724726005uoooh
>$40 for Xillia without 2Theres no excuse why didnt bundle 1 and 2 together. Just Xillia alone is too expensive
>>724727267Trails fans bought Sky 1 Remake without Sky 2 and were satisfied.
>>72472726750$ for both would've been nice.
>>724727324do I even need to say that that's a remake from the ground up and in no way comparable
>>724727324Xillia is an unfinished beta game, Sky isn't.
