where did the beat em up genre peak?
>>724698708Streets of Rage 2
>>724698708Shadow over Mystara
>>724698757artstyle and music peaked in sor2 for sure
>>724698708Certainly not with DC. You should have posted Fight'n Rage.
none of the westoid ones thats for sure
>>724698881fight n rage is garbageits terrible to look at too, literal eye cancer with its retarded effects
>>724698892You can disable most of the visual fuckery. Gameplay wise it's tight as a teen pussy.
mexicans perfected the beltscroller with the Final Fight LNS fan game
>>724698876is this worth $15
>>724699016Never heard of it. Anything I should know before I download it?
>>724699096Unlocking characters is a grind. There's a reddit thread with a build with all the characters unlocked. It has Normal > Special > Super combo routes similar to fighting games. It has motion inputs and combo/air combo focused so be warned. You play through most of the classic capcom beat em up campaigns
>>724699016Judging by all the mismatched sprites, I'm guessing it's just some Beats of Rage thing?
I'd like to apologize. I finally got around to trying SoR4. It's great. It it still a tranny game, but it's the greatest beat em up tranny game ever made.
>>724698757I like the first one better.
>>724699295It's made with OpenBOR so yeah
>>724698708final fight 3
Should we have any hope for he-man?
>>724698708SOR4, sunk 100+ hours into it, combat is easy to pick up yet has depth. OST is great, but not like the predecessors. Only complaints I have, no multiple routes and Skate/Mr. X didn't make the cut. >>724698991>>724699002I dislike the bouncing tits in this game. Made me double check it wasn't an h-game. OST is also good, overall great beat em up.
>>724699767I love the gameplay of this big monkey, chaining grabs and specialsshame about the total dogshit visual character design
>>724698708It peaked with picrel 20 years ago.
>>724699767I really tried to like sor4 but it was all too floaty for me
>>724699903He was my main until Max got released, his throws are satisfying to pull off. The designs don't bother me much, but some of the concept art do him more justice. Really wanted to see all their scrapped designs.
sailor moon snes 1simply superior to final fight
>>724698708The Konami era during the late 80s and early 90s with games like the Simpsons and TMNT
Castle Crashers was FUN!
>>724700605simpsons and tmnt are boring
>>724700605What if we mix the old age's popular formula of replayable beatemups, and stir it with current age's formula of replayability of roguelike progression and random powerups/builds
>>724700037I refunded the game due to overused super armor, characters can't run/felt floaty, and no ai companion. For whatever reason, bought it again and something clicked. I may have gotten tired of SoR: Remake and Fight n Rage's combat flow.
>>724698708I tried Dragon's Crown for a bit but I couldn't get into it.
>>724698708Is there a beat em up collection for MAME?
>>724698708the 16-bit era.
>>724698708This is the peak of 2 line brawlers
>>724705172what do you mean 2 laneninja warriors has 1 lane
>>724705251>1 laneTechnically that's spartan x style """beat em ups"""
Boomers will tell you it's some older arcade game but SoR4 unironically perfected the classic formula and should be held as the new standard. It's the Third Strike to SoR2's Super Turbo.
Beat em ups always sucked desu. Castle Crashers was alright
>>724699658It's being made by the guys that made Final Vendetta, which is a solid beat-em-up because they know what they're doing and aren't just a cashgrab licensed game slop maker. As long as they don't get retarded it should be just fine. Possibly great if you're a He-man fan due to all the fanservice it will presumably have.
>>724698708I wish there were more games like dungeon fighter online that mixed beat em up gameplay with a diablo 2 loot system
>>724698708Definitely not Dragon's Crown, but I can see an argument for the original Dungeons and Dragon's beat em ups. The alternate paths and hidden upgrades easily make it one of the most replayable, fun and snappy beat em ups I've played through.
>>724705640the way to unlock moves is pretty shit thothey can only be unlocked by playing that boring ass arena mode
>>724706639You're the only person I've seen call Mr.X mode boring, it's a great addition to the base game.
>>724706769its not fun mode to playI would rather unlock stuff by playing the normal stages
>>724698708Absolum. There's no question here.
>>724708107I wish.
>>724699267>. It has Normal > Special > Super combo routes similar to fighting games. It has motion inputs and combo/air combo focused so be warned.Sold, o'm getting it right now.
>>724698708Sticking that ugly ass tumblr art shit next to a Greek god of art styles should be a crime.
>>724708107tranny agenda garbage
>>724702641Did you play Dorf?
>>724708107My initial opinion of Absolum was very high, then went down the more I played it. It's almost impossible to not get a completely broken set of rituals that just let you ignore the game. They need to incorporate some of the additional moves you can get after bosses/mini-bosses into the base kits of characters, there's actually a lot of fun stuff there, but the characters don't have enough unique elements on their own. I went back to SoR4 and it feels so much more satisfying to get good with different characters.
>>724708432you should focus on politics less and actually enjoy video games
>>724709212its hard when the faggot devs keep shoving their leftist views down my throat
>>724709245not every game is political and ugly characters are not really political either
Spread Punch is such a cursed move>oddly late cancel>applies short stun then pushes the enemy a good distance>gives weird horizontal momentum>20% mid combo prorationAlso I hate the smokebomb bots.
>>724709884which videogame is this
>>724709969Baldr Sky
>>724699267>It has Normal > Special > Super combo routesit has special > special > special > special combo routesthe mode with a jillion enemies onscreen is the most fun because you get enough meter to do specials whenever you want
>>724709303If you’re trying to insinuate the game with the effeminate male frog, butch masculine female, arrogant androgynous “puppet” and perverted to the point where dialogue actually notes characters avoiding him male dwarf isn’t somehow perpetuating an agenda I have bad news for your ability to recognize subtext.Also the puppet and female have prosthetics and are handicapable for maximum representation.
>>724698708Both of these games are 0/10s in terms of beat em up quality and it's stuff like this that's the reason there can never be remotely interesting discussion of this genre. This genre has been completely subverted by retards and is dead.
Guardian Heroes way back on Sega Saturn was the peak. One could argue that it is at best rivaled by Castle Crashers and Dragon's Crown for different reasons.>0 mentions of Guardian HeroesI'm ashamed to share a board with tasteless faggots and uncultured zoomoids.
>>724708107This>>724710187Take your schizo pills.
>>724710317>rivaled by Castle Crashers and Dragon's CrownYou are the tasteless faggot, ironic
>>724698708I wish they'd put fucking dragons dogma on PC already. I don't want to emulate just for this one game.
>>724699767>I dislike the bouncing tits in this game. homo
>>724698708Dragon's Crown is the GOAT because it's an actual RPG with beat 'em up combat. Beat 'em up with no level ups and loot and skills = zzzzzzzzzzz.
so beat em ups have to be 2d?i think the genre peaked with dynasty warrior 4or maybe games with bullet time bloodrayne, dead to rights, max payne
>>724710375>>724708107>>724709212taken your HRT medication today yet sis?
>>724710317Also no mention of Spikeout series. NGMI
>>724698708The answer isn't as exciting as you think. Capcom's later games are still better designed than other companies', the only guys who made games on that level were Winkysoft with Denjin Makai.
>>724698757lolno SoR2 was the worst game in its series
>>724699658Yes, the developers made a game called Final Vendetta which is a pretty boring concept but has great controls and game mechanics. He-Man will feel better to play than every licensed game we got in the last few years.
>>724712787Konami too bro they went crazy with Violent Storm
>>724698708SoR4 is the PEAK of the genre, nothing else comes close
>>724705640It depends how much you like the sor4 characters. Art style is a big deal.
>>724712787>capcom's later gameswhich games are you talking about ?
>>724713203you can just mod every character to your liking
>>724710773It started as a 2D genre where every game was more or less a clone of Final Fight, so 3D games tend to differ from the formula a lot more. There are 3D beat'em ups, but musou is typically considered beat'em up adjacent or maybe a subgenre.
>>724710773max payne is not beatemup or none of those other games lmao
>>724698708Streets 4 sucks, streets was never a combo scoring game
>>724713721then dont combo score?The game does not force you to do it, its there to have goals for yourself and most importantly for fun aspect
>>724713772>just don't engage with the game mechanicallySoRR mogs 4
>>724713292AvP, Armored Warriors, Battle Circuit. As early as 1993 with Punisher, but especially after that. You start to see a lot more freedom of movement, more directional and special moves, faster gameplay, better art, stuff that moves the genre forward (whereas many of their other games stuck more to the basics).
ENTER
>>724713821you can just keep smashing punch like a retard if you want to, just like in SORR
>>724713342That's fair, since it's my personal taste that's creating a problem with the game, and I am on PC
>>724713721This is bait
>>724708107You've been trying to shill this woke trash for like weeks now. Are you on the dev team?
>>724710317No one mentioned because it isnt really that good. The only people that pick this are contrarians that think the more popular a game is, the worse he is.>>724710423well i have good news about dragons dogma for you, buddy
>>724713721>>724713821Obvious bait
>>724714207>>724714056Gay samefag frogcocksucker
>>724698876No, this was not as good as peak beat-em-ups. Boring with the same old blocking, parrying, dodging "simon says" mechanics. No thanks. Everything wrong with modern video game design.
>>724713898>If you use a finishing move on poison, her top falls offWish it didn't happen with only poison, though.
>>724699002Good shit.>>724699658>>724705834>He-Man made by Final VendettaJust wait it'll get mixed reviews by fucking retards for simply not understanding actual gaming mechanics
>>724714143>Left/Right brain retard doesn't understand people play video games because of the gameplay and not because they reinforce their own political beliefsWhat a sad existence.
>>724715060the only game worth playing in the series
>>724715020Nah they learned their lesson. You will 100% be able to credit feed through the game even on hard difficulty. Also it's a licensed game so it has to be beatable by total shitters.
>>724699002>super cool karate guy>super hot fighting babe>giant bull manDescribe a more ideal cast>>724715020I hope Bitmap makes a lot of money from their He-Man and Terminator games, so they can make something for themselves with a higher budget.
>>724715040That's /v/ for you. Been shit since 2016.
>>724698708I've enjoyed some of the newer ones, but SoR4 just had that something extra.
>>724715304I played the demo for this and it felt like someone took a basic beat-em-up unity tutorial and slapped anime tits over it. Did it actually improve on full release?
>>724715304what the fuck is this tumblr art?
>>724715431>Button mash, with no substanceNo thanks. The gameplay is an insult to the genre. Fuck off.
You know it's true.
>>724715476Cope
>>724715683Cope over what? The gameplay fucking sucks. attack, dodge, attack dodge. nothing interesting about it at all.
>>724715304This game was pretty funny for what happened to it. They pushed the sexyness too hard and got shoved into the porn game category. Instead of just having big boobs and panty shots, they included under clothes nipples and pussy outlines on the panties.
>>724715569>>724715431>zoomers take on the genrelmao
>>724699497Is this the most ridiculous engine ever made
>>724715762Seethe
>>724715171Weird game b/c they made a hardcore game with features that try to encourage players to leave their comfort zone, but at the same time played it super safe with the concept and art design. You can choose which level you start from in the options, so you can see and practice the later levels without having to make it there, but no one's gonna care about that. They feel robbed if they can't brute force their way from the start to the end and then forget about the game.
>>724715998I'm not seething. I just feel bad for retards who think that's peak gameplay. I too, was 12 years old thinking that game was fun.
>>724716041>at the same time played it super safe with the concept and art design.I heard it was because they originally made the game with SoR sprites, and in order to get it sold they had to redraw everything. Hard to really deviate too much once you have all the frame data and animations locked in.
Dwarf crown and godhand are the absolute pinnacle of beat em ups in my eyes.I wish I had more time to actually play DC with /v/ because those were some of the best times
>>724716317>I wish I had more time to actually play DC with /v/ because those were some of the best timesWe can do that? I missed the boat
>>724716208Ah, too bad they didn't redraw some titties on Claire instead of wrapping her up like a mummy
>>724710423Dragons crown* not dogma >>724714201
>>724698708>where did the beat em up genre peak?Like 25 years ago, not with either of the total shitters in your image, that's for damned sure.
>>724698757Remake is even better.
>>724716317was the multiplayer done with vita emulator or ps3 emulator?
>>724710773Crimson Tears, Urban Reign, The Bouncer, Kiborg are all 3D beat em ups.
>>724717230Neither, the game had online out the box.Also had a PS4 release but I think most still play PS3
>>724717592Urban Reign, the game I played cause there was nothing else, I didn't want to, but it kept pulling me back in for another session cause of the amount of moves and characters. IIRC, you have a lot of powerful tools in that for crowd control and avoiding damage, so I'd stack the odds against myself and see how long I could survive.Fighting Force is another one. Nothing extremely impressive compared to what 3D action games became.
>>724717184ThisToo bad Sega will never make it an official release.
>>724718115There were also Gekido, Legend and Jackie Chan on the psx and Dynamite Cop on the dreamcast.
>>724698708Scott Pilgrim cause it turned me on.
>>724698708>>724698708Dragon's Crown might very well be the best in the genre tbqh. If we are going by RPG style with magic then its between Dragon's Crown, Guardian Heroes and Castle Crashers to me. I'd say Dragon's Crown is the most solid of these three and I grew up with Guardian Heroes. I loved that game. Beat it countless times and even recently bought the HD version just to beat it another 3 dozen times. Castle Crashers probably had the most soul and humor and it gives me the most feels of these three but its too repetitive and its hardest difficulty is just bullshit.So Dragon's Crown wins for me as best of this genre.As for official beat em ups not RPG related, then SOR2. Easy peasy there. The hype music alone sets it way high on the foodchain but then its mechanics are solid and the game is fun to play over and over. I only wish it had more characters to use at this point, the remake at least does but that isn't official.
>>724718530Can't believe I forgot about Jackie. Another deceptively well made game. I didn't hear about half of these, I'll play Crimson Tears and Gekido. What's Legend?
>>724698708Guacamelee unironically
die hard arcade
>>724718885Damn... Alan Rickman isnt looking so good.
>>724716390I never bought this game because why the fuck would I buy a Dynasty Warriors game where you can only play as one character(who is some new lame OC). No thanks.
>>724715060The combat system in Yakuza always seemed retarded to me>enemies can block>only counterplay is grab and heat>grabs get broken after ~2 timeswith bosses in particular the pace slows down to a fucking crawl as you wait for them to stop blocking
>>724718838Doesnt that game have really outdated memes?
>>724718758>What's Legend?Medieval beat em up that is a remake of a snes game, I think it only released in PAL region.
I have been enjoying the beatemup threads the last few weeks on /v/. Good shit everyone. Has anyone tried Wendigo Blue? Looks very cool
>>724719836>Wendigo Blue>another retarded developer who doesnt know how to implent online
Pizza Tower devs upcoming beat em up. Does it have potential?
>>724719938artstyle looks like total dogshit
>>724719938Oh, no, that will be great
>>724708107I like this well enough but it's nowhere near as good as SOR4
>>724719938I'm guessing it's really early. Obviously it's got the Pizza Tower artstyle which is at least distinct, and it's going to a similar comedy/cartoon angle with the sound effects and such, but right now the action is very unclear.It could have potential.
>>724720480I’ve put about 40-50 hours in without engaging with the metagame (no upgrades, rituals, etc) and the defensive mechanics are neat but locking pieces of your toolset behind arbitrary rolls and progression within a run goes past ambitious and circles back to fucking retarded.Also the characters feel very incomplete without some of the locked moves, especially the dwarf and the frog.
>>724721018Pizza Tower has a strong gameplay focus and good mechanics, with a lot of detail in its animations, all those things will carry over well to a beat em up. The dev also excitedly posted a video by (what sounds like) French Electric Underground talking about how developers fail to understand the fundamentals of the genre, so I trust his direction and he's got the capabilities.
>>724721491>how developers fail to understand the fundamentals of the genrewhat are his favorite beat em ups?
The one true answerGuardian Heroes can suck a dickhttps://youtu.be/S-vxLUD8WzQ?si=j4fRCu87f7OvF1UW
>>724721750In the video he's showing footage of Undercover Cops and a couple other games I don't recognize. His point is that they're about spacing and he compares it to chess. He explains how the transition to 3D had to fundamentally change how the genre could work, and killed it, but also how the ways 3D games changed combat were then implemented back into 2D beat em ups which have lost their focus.So he doesn't like an emphasis on long juggling combos or telegraphed defensive options.
>>724698876You beat up people, but its in no way in the "beat em up" genre
>>724721045You've hit the nail on the head on both counts, those specifically are my two biggest issues with Absolum (apart from how dreary its setting and characters are)Having an upgrade tree to increase the amount of times you can hit an enemy before your combo automatically, arbitrarily breaks is probably the most asinine shit I've encountered in a game released this year (especially considering it takes absolutely no effort to stunlock any enemy that can be launched regardless, including the penultimate boss) and no matter how crazy your build is by the end of any given run none of your characters ever feel as complete as any SOR4 character is by default
>>724721045I suspect Absolum will get many patches like SoR4. Wouldnt be surprised if they added another room that allows you to choose abilities much like how you can choose rituals or items
>>724698708Devil May Cry 5
>>724699002Currently the best the genre has to offer.>>724705172Also great. Specially if you are into 1 lane beat em ups.>>724708107Still haven't played it but I've read both good and bad things about it.>>724698708SoR4 is great too and it might just be better than FightnRage in some areas.
>>724725791I don't know why so many like SOR4. I thought it was quite overrated. Its still a decent game but I was very disappointed since all I kept seeing was so much high praise for the game. The levels sucked, the bosses sucked, the music was definitely okay but not as good as previous games. The lack of all characters having the ability to run sucked. This was a great inclusion with SOR3. The fundamentals of the combat are quite good I'll admit although I don't like how the special was done. It makes combat too spammy. I much prefer how it was done in 2 or even 3. I could also do without the wall bouncing. Its not a deal breaker and its kind of cool at times but I still prefer how it used to work in practically all beat em ups.
>>724698708SOR4 has to be my favourite, I'm finding Absolum a little boring by comparison it's just making me wish the devs did another major update for SOR4 like the Mr X Revenge DLC
>>724728679>wanting more of this garbagewhy?
>>724728797I just meant I would want them to add more stuff to SOR4, it doesn't specifically mean it would have to be survival mode content
>>724728864hell yes for more sor4 content. the content that mr X provided was fucking garbage tho
>>724728925I didn't mind it, all the new characters are fun albeit feel pretty overpowered. Survival mode has too many stage hazards all over the place and you have to really optimize the fun out of everything if you want to get a decent run. I think it could be pretty fun if there were more regular stages to fight on and maybe finding a different way to balance healing in the later stages
Pic related.Also R*'s most underrated game.
>>724729167>if there were more regular stages to fight onexactly this. I dont know what the fuck were those lefty trannies thinking when they came up with those gimmich stages
>>724708716I played Elf.
>>724698708I've just gotten into SoR4 and while it's fun I find the hysterical praise towards it strange. The bosses are awful and the game is entirely too long.
>>724719938This looks absolutely demented. make it so you play as the moon guy and beat up niggers [/spoiler[
>>724724941I’ve never upgraded anything so I didn’t know there was an upgrade tree to prevent over pressure. I abuse Cody style punch combos to build over pressure quickly and then use whatever high damage move is on hand (sometimes even just arcana or throw).The fact most moves in the game are advantage on hit/block is really weird mechanically especially since the window is huge but you don’t really have a lot of options to utilize given that much hit stun.
I have a weird depth perception issue with 2D beat em ups, I can't quite tell when I'm lined up and constantly seem to be off
>>724719052yakuza 0 has dogshit combat exactly as you describedother games in the series have functional block breakers, combos, grabs etc. lost judgment is the best for it
Fight n Rage is legitimately the most fun beat em up I've ever played. It's too bad the dev never made anything else.
>>724734846Why? Have you played red earth?
>>724718838>infinite combo dummies>until you get to lategame where they just auto-break out of air juggles after 3 hits and you're back to i-frame rollspamming behind them after attacks to whittle them down slowly>in flat levels with no real encounter design that isn't projectile adds in the gauntletAmazing. Crazy how this trash comes up in every metroidvania or beat em up thread when it's bad at both. I never see Shank. Or Charlie Murder, and that's actually a beat em up. They're not good, but they're more interesting than this shit you played when you were 12.
What's up with arcadefag dishonesty?>bro final fight RAPES AND FEASTS ON MODERN ACTION GAMES>watch the gameplay>spamming an infinite and other exploits nonstop over and over and over again
>>724735331Incredibly ironic post
>>724736338>They're not good
peaked at Streets of Rage 4.
>>724735408Don’t post electricunderground in here unless you plan on tilting everyone who started past SNES
>>724738397Mork is a total tard though, no wonder /v/ loves him
>>724738494Did not know v tolerated that level of burger
>>724719836Really good, ai ally, aerial combos/grabs, rouglite mechanics, nice animations, and multiple routes. Disliked how difficult/slow it felt at first, but I got used to it. My favorite character is the orange hammer chick, since she breaks super armor easily, even did all her combo trails. I may have missed it in the absolum threads, but I would compare this game to it.However it's still in early access and I experienced crashes. I'll replay it again since it got updated.
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>>724738868Curious. The remake costs as much as the original on the psn. Same goes for re2 and re3 and their remakes.
>>724739279Once Again is far more worth it than crapcumslop
>>724739279The Remake is just the original game but improved in every way. Get it. It adds 2 new characters and a bunch of minor tweaks.
>>724698708Final Fight arcade version
>>724739310Good game, really good actually. Very little replayability.>>724739410Yeah, the new character is like a 20 ton robot. Awesome fighter, I bet. What's the other new character?
>>724716390Dynasty Warriors 3 was the peak
>>724712787Resident Evil 4 is a beat em up
>>724738868This game filters me, but I like the character designs so much.
>>724739945This game can't filter
>>724739927Yeah, truth nuke. The tank controls create limitation in the 3d space that enforces a similar kind of positioning. It does has a suplex but the kick is as much a throw, same function of cc and iframes. Mikami is a genius game designer, he proved the survival horror formula twice by combining it with two different genres.
>>724739945Just play as the blue guy, he's beginner mode but also has a lot of the coolest moves. I got the 1cc on hard with him without any struggle.
I fucking love Absolum and admittedly I'm not very good at it because I'm 20 hours into it and I haven't beaten Azra yet. Although I am purposefully not buying myself the last tier of tree upgrades starting from the second revive. Feels too OP.
>>724717184The update before they fucked up the enemy AI was the best.>>724698757This was my first beat em up and while I still love it, there are so many more that don't feel as stiff as this one does.>>724704193This, 16-bit era and arcades were the peak of the genre.
>>724705640I didn't like the extreme emphasis on juggling and chaining combos forever, it's fun but the entire combat system is outright built around it, the art style sucks, Blaze literally looks like a prostitute, Axel is awful to play as and bizarrely wide looking and some of the character designs scream DEI influence to me, like the sidecut jacked mixed race female cop or the big Maori dude.>>724710187Ignore that retard, the devs themselves confirmed they made the fighter to "challenge stereotypes around female strength." Faggots need to stop forcing political agendas into shit and then being coy when it's called out.
>>724698708I was getting really frustrated playing Renegade the other day. It's 50/50 whether I get passed the first stage, and I can't beat the second. I run out of time.
I really need to figure out how the fuck to make MAME work one of these days
>>724699002Very based post
>>724744218Nobody cares about your /pol/tard shit, go away
>>724744553>if you aren't team x you must be team yFuck off retard.
