I own my game library. Do you?
yep
people who don't own don't carethe people that do are just in for the dramaif you really want to play a game you just download it off torrent or a rom site/archive, it'll always be there for people who actually play games
>>724705803>rents a license from GOGOH NO NO NO
>>724705803>>724706302based and GOGpilled
>>724705803Software ownership is a retarded paradigm. If you have the files with no DRM on a system that you have control over, then you can control what you do with them.Copyright is just cryptocommunist censorship.>>724706302>DRM machinelmao
you own a license to download the installer just like i own a license to download game files from steamsteam has no drm either because its 1 drag and drop dll
>>724707047I have 5 copies of my installers across 5 storage devices, yes I own my games. Enjoy paying a subscription to keep your games when Microsoft buys Steam after Gabe dies.
>>724707184How is Microsoft going to buy Steam? I'll wait for your explanation.
>>724705803some yea i think my steam library is bigger but I've had that since i was a kid
>>724707205NTA but Gabe Newell dies then M$ dumps a ton of money at them. Unless Gaben has a legit not piece of shit successor. That's how it'll go.
>>724705803Yes but on Steam I have a whole lot more games so whatever I guess.
>>724705803Try saying a bad no-no word on their forums. See how much you "own" your gog games. I'll just be over here yelling NIGGER on the Steam forums.
>>724706302>thinking you own "your" games on a cucksoleNo way anyone's actually this retarded, right?
>>724705803yes
>>724707047>Steamie projectingGOG games will still work even when all games are nukes from every online library. Simple as. I regret having 107 games on Steam shit and not switching sooner. Just download and now you have the game for eternity. It just werks
>>724705803Doesn't really feel like it, the games you 'own' on gog randomly get updated to break functionality with older PCs, and you lose access to the older installers unless you backed them up. At this point it just feels like a worse steam.
>>724708218The most I have to do with a Steam game is use goldberg to crack the DRM and move the files to another drive. Basically no extra effort compared to gog and I get to enjoy a superior experience until Valve maybe decides to become evil at some indeterminate point in the future.
Nobody owns their games. Whether you have physical copies or offline installers it doesn't matter. The games are not yours and companies that do own the games will find a way to remind you of that.
>>724707905>they're flying by the seat of their pants>there isn't already a plan
>>724705803If you own something, you can sell it. You don't own gog games.
>>724708776software ownership is a sort of nebulous concept that different people have different definitions of, even the FOSStranny definition (which i think is solid) isnt necessarily THE objectively true definition.if i have a file representing an entire game packed into it, and i can copy that file to a million destinations that i have control of, and that control can't be revoked, i probably own the game "more" than a steamie owns any of their games.
>>724708776I sell my GOG games in my favela all the time.
>>724706972>it'll always be thereFamous last words
>>724709290Animals can't own anything.
>>724708084>he uses the turdie cesspit that is the steam forumsgood morning saar!
>>724708776>Back in the day, I owned my games, so I was able to trade half my collection to GameStop for a 20% discount on a new game that ended up being shit!For those of us who were never in the habit of selling our games, a DRM-free digital copy has all the meaningful benefits of ownership.>b-b-but you CAN'T SELL IT!!!!!Yeah, but I have no desire to sell any of my GOG games. The only ones I don't want were from giveaways and the $0.01 that I'd have gotten from "selling" them wouldn't have been worth the effort of clicking the "magically sell this intangible software license" button.
>>724708776>Information that has been intentionally disseminated to the public through global publishing >Still thinks he can sell itNot even publishers own their games, nor can they sell them, they can only use extortion to ensure that people will pay for them.
>>724707184>yes I own my games.Sell me one of them.
>>724711130Yes. To call the turdies that use it NIGGERS.
>>724705803I also own your game library.
>>724711480If the games are DRM-free then he absolutely can offer to send you the files in exchange for money (and then delete his copy and never download it again so that it's more like an actual sale; no I don't care if the EULA allows it; nobody has ever read the entire EULA except the lawyer who wrote it, so everyone who ever agreed to the EULA lied about having read it and thus is in violation already).The problem is that you would decline the offer.
>>724711834Yeah that's called counterfeit copying. Sell it to me through ebay or some similar service so we know it's legal and I'm covered by buyer protection.
>>724705803i find it funny how "Ownership" boils down to a bunch of retarded legalspeak when it comes to GOG and Steam and never about actual ownership of the files, because then all semblance of an argument falls flat.I own my steam games just as much as i own my gog ones because both are on my drive and no one can take them from there remotely, unlike cucksoles that can just disable them and there would be jack and shit one can do. >But DRMSteam DRM spoofing hasnt been patched in 20 years and takes just as much effort to crack as using the GOG installer. And GOG games can still have their own copy protections inside (Factorio multiplayer comes to mind). BOTH of those can change at any moment, so saying that it MIGHT change someday does not work as an argument.
>>724712049Already said I don't care if this entirely hypothetical thing is legal.This is just you declining the offer and proving me right. Everything in my previous post was correct. By the way, I'm not the other guy which is why my previous post referred to the seller in third person. I've never sold a video game, even when the bits were delivered to me on plastic instead of wires, so I'm not going to start wanting to sell off my hobby now.
>>724705803Technically if the servers blew up you wouldn't be able to get your games
>>724712419So since you can't legally sell it, you don't legally own it. Your headcanon excuses don't matter.
>>724712461And if you pre-order a physical game for pickup and the store blows up before you pick it up, you wouldn't be able to get your game. It's pretty obvious that any discussion of the permanence of DRM-free digital copies is about what was already downloaded. There's no point in owning something if you never take it, so people who buy a game and never download it are irrelevant.
>>724705803Most of the games I have (not counting old CDs) are pirate or on GoG. I do have Steam games too, but these days I buy on Steam rarely or not at all.
>>724712461Why would gog servers blowing up stop me from pluging in one of the two hdds I have full of video games?
>>724708776This is an interesting point actually. It's historically unprecedented that you can own a commercial product that you legally cannot sell. Isn't it the same with bought mp3 or flac files, movies, software and so on?
>>724710734>report broken link>gets reuploaded by random scene membernoooooooo piracyman don't anal vore me!!!!
>>724712648That's okay, I didn't pay for it in the first place, thanks gog-games.to!
you can turn most steam games drm free with goldberg anyways
>>724714817This, I don't understand why people put Steam DRM in the same ball park as fucking Denuvo when it's almost intentionally easy to bypass. What's funny is that these same retards will then go on to brag about pirating games that already use Goldberg.>inb4 but I shouldn't have to crack it ;((
>>724705803Do you give them a tip when you purchase their "preserved" games? kek
>>724707047GOG allows you to download offline installers for your games so even if GOG shuts down, you can still keep the games indefinitely to install anywhere.
>>724714108nice
>>724712648You can't legally sell human body parts, so you don't own your body. Haha you cuck.
>>724715706Do Galaxy zoomers really need to see this webm for proof that games can just be downloaded by themselves?
>>724705803I want to switch to GOG so I can own my games. Please give me links to the GOG installers for:>all the Final Fantasy games>all the Mass Effect games>Space Marine 2>The Talos Principle 2>Onirism>Powerwash Simulator 1 and 2>THPS 1+2 and 3+4>Gears of War: Reloaded>Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP>the Katamari games>Goat Simulator 3
>>724717601Web downloads on GOG are even slower than Galaxy downloads, which are already painful.
Don't care, still gonna buy on Steam. If they want me back as a customer they have to apologize for blocking me on X.
>>724714108
>>724712187what if you get a new machine? the gog installer you can download fixes that, i put all my gog instalers in local storage for me to keep
>>724715706If your account is banned, you lose the legal right to keep those installers, so you're breakin the law by keeping them.
>>724720985NTA, but who cares about dumb laws that should exist? Pic rel.
>>724721078*shouldn't
>>724721078>let's break the law and become thieves, that'll show the mean ol' government!
>>724721167Note most of 4chan thinks that's the current American flag due to using textbooks from the 19th century in Brazil.
>>724721167>copyright infringement >theft
>>724705803So long as you download and archive the installers, you're fine, but GOG can delete your account and all the games you own whenever they want. They've done it before.
>>724721078Yeah but if you're breaking the law anyway you might as well just pirate
>>724721415GOG is more convenient.
>buying video games!>2025!Kek! What's the point of buying video games anyway? You seriously don't get any benefits at all.>>724708171My nigga!
Don't care. I'm not supporting their woke bullshit.
what is with the recent flood of PC storefront shitposting threads? I see like 5 threads made every hour for the past few days and the recycled OPs make it obvious its either one dude or a raid.
>>724718354If you can't find any games you like in their current library then that's literally a (You) problem.
>>724721497I've bought a few games since they would receive regular updates and it was a chore to constantly find downloads for new builds. Terraria was the main one for me.
>>724721545China announced a storefront a few days ago so maybe it's related.
>>724721386Show me one example of someone having their account deleted by GOG and losing all of their games please.
>>724721546I can find more on Steam, and I can legally share them.
I've got a library of over 500 games on GOG and have them all backed up to a 6TB external HDD. AMA
>>724705803Thank you for letting me borrow your game library any time I want. Really appreciate it.
>>724721736Have fun losing your games when Steam goes tits up I guess?
>>724705803I don't own anything, because I am a mere mortal who will give up everything to God upon my death.
>>724721823oh noooooo I lost all my steam games because reasons! >*spends 5 minutes pirating them back onto my PC*nvm
>>724721497>What's the point of buying video games anyway?piracy is technically more convenient, but buying the games supports the dev, so I can morally enjoy their game without feeling bad. Like I see nothing wrong with downloading the entire mega man x series, and then buying the Mega Man X Legacy collection. the former is important because romhacks don't work with the collection.
>>724721823Any minute now
>>724707184Sounds more like the games own you if you need this much hardware just to keep them. Collectors always do retarded shit, huh.
>>724721938>another short sighted steamie
You own nothing in this world. Life is temporary.
>>724721823In 2 more weeks? I'll likely be dead before Steam goes under (you certainly will due to cholera and malaria in your country).>>724721903I find piracy less convenient. I can choose a game to buy, and have it fully installed and updated within a few minutes at most.>>724721974>2 more weeks
>>724707184>>724705803what exactly makes you "own" your games on GOG but not Steam?>>724708218Are you aware most of those 107 game's files can just be literally copied from their folder? And the rest can all be cracked with the same crack within a minute?
Why do anons even give a shit about ownership when you are on the platform that was so notorious for piracy that PC gaming nearly died when everyone left it for consoles? Like if my steam library vanishes due to evil curse magic I'm just going to pirate it all back onto my PC.
>>724721768>games are backed up offsite in the cloud with redundance>he backs them up onsite for some reasonGOGlems truly are deranged.
Do you guys think it's morally okay to download a game from the wayback machine, if you're using it to go to a website where a dev gave away a game for free, but for whatever reason took down the website? They didn't change their mind and decide to sell the game, the website just went down for whatever reason.Asking for a friend.
>>724708349>No extra effort compared to gog??? What fucking extra effort? The installer is right there, DRM free to begin with. But sure, you have fun with your (((Goldberg))) steam emulators, retard
>>724722448>trusting some third party to keep your data safeTell me where the fuck you're getting 6+TB of cloud storage with no monthly payments and only a $40 up-front payment?
Reminding gogsissies that they are being treated like shithttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjwUN1mtJdCkgtTDRB2IoFp7PP41fraY-oFNY00fEkI/edit?usp=drivesdk
>>724722619You understand that the game store is cloud storage, right? You can download the game whenever you want, but you choose to waste your own storage backing up installers.Of course, if I used GOG, I'd probably do that as well since the downloads are slower than mole asses.
>>724705803you own your games on gog as much as you own them anywhere else
>>724705803where's devotion on gog?
>>724722764Less. You can't legally share them on GOG.
I think that I'd rather have better consumer rights than bullshit store wars
>>724722992Cool it with the anti-semitism.
Why would I ever buy from GOG when a pirate gets the same experience for free? At least when I spend money on Steam I get access to the best platform with all its features.>but steam features are gay!!!Then pirate the game you retard
>>724705803I don't give a fuck anymore. Every storefront is pozzed. Steam bans games left and right and even GOG censors PS3 era games.
Genuinely how do you reach a middleground between the game's creators not having their games pirated to kingdom come and gamers not getting assfucked by bullshit that revokes their legitimate purchase? Software isn't like buying any other kind of product because you can duplicate it infinitely so just giving out an .exe with no protections is asking to get your game flipped onto any download site and pirated (which is why everyone is so hesitant to sell on GOG). But at the same time scumfuck devs will fuck up their own games with DRM or will just revoke your purchase because fuck you.
>>724705803I game on a big social platform with my friends
>>724723160Some pirates will never pay, and it's not always economics.The best way to ensure purchases is to provide something like a solid multiplayer component. Space Marine 2 is pretty much worthless to pirate, as multiplayer is the real meat of it.
>>724723126>Why would I ever buy from GOG when a pirate gets the same experience for free?to support the devs
>>724723339You can support the devs on Steam and have access to a superior platform.
>>724705803>I own a daughter>I own someones daughterWho owns who?
>>724723163reddit? discord?
>>724721768When are the insomnia sales coming back?The threads were fun.
>>724723636I must have missed that because I don't know what you're talking about
>>724723431>>724723339>>724723278Like it was said before, sometimes you have to pirate a game if you can't reasonably find it anywhere. Like good luck getting a copy of Chrono Trigger for under 400 dollars. OR you could just pirate it, and if you want to support the company legally, you can buy the port on steam.
>>724706302>Games that are not fully on the disc>Updates and DLCNo you don't.
>>724723769I'll pirate a game if its not on the platform I want it on. I'm not paying for a game on an inferior service.
>>724723160If there was an obviously good solution we would've had it by now. Just force all devs release their games for free and make the state pay the devs who get the most downloads
>>724723861That's perfectly fine.
>>724715295Cracking games is for autists I just want to download and play.
>>724705803I sold all my physic games to live, thanks Biden & Trump.
>>724723841>Games that are not fully on the discAll Sony games are fully on disc.
>>724724385https://www.doesitplay.org/list?platform=PS5&downloadRequired=Yes&page=1https://www.doesitplay.org/list?platform=PS4&downloadRequired=Yes&page=1https://www.doesitplay.org/list?platform=PS3&downloadRequired=Yes&page=1You were saying? And for some reaosn you ignored the DLC and update comment.
>>724705803Why do they no longer discount the original stalkers even though they are preserving them?
>>724705803I prefer itch.io's service model except when it isn't free
>>724705803No? Last I checked my licenses on gog can be revoked too sweaty
>>724721823How will I lose my games if Steam dies? They've already stated that they have a plan to retain user access to all their games if something happens. Even if they go back on that, I can just crack my installed games and pirate the rest.
>>724705803yeah
>>724721974You'll lose access to you gog games the same way if gog dies, unless you have every single one of them backed up, which I doubt. But let's say you do have them all backed up. In that case, you could have your Steam games backed up the same way.
>>724726421Like 90% of steam games dont even have drm as it is so
>>724712187>i totally own my Steam games, all I have to do is violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and risk federal prison to bypass DRM protections
>>724726809Isn't the same true of all games? You're breaking some kind of law if you play them in a way the dev didn't intend.
>>724705803I own the games on gog you bought except I didn't spend a penny. Than you. Thank Gog for making piracy so easy.gog-games (dot) com
