>destroys their reputation and goodwillwhy'd they do it?
>>724714043Couldn't tell you since they didn't.
>>724714043disgusting BUG-vania
>>724714043When >pic is what modern audiences look like, I don't see the issue.
>>724714043>and other psychotic delusions direct from anon's mind
they destroyed the indie market and they will pay for it.I can no longer price my 2 hours long ps1 graphics platformer with choppy animation at 30 dollars.
>>724714954this pic gets smaller and crunchier every time I see it
>>724714043This was the exact moment the studio died
>>724714043First of all, no they didn't. Second of all, even if they did they're already set for life. Still buying Hollow Knight 3 btw.
>>724715258oh is this why there's been a small but vocal outcry against it? I don't really pay attention to what indie devs say because they're mostly low IQ and overly emotional
>>724714043silksong is great, cry harder
>>724714043Trannies adore this game a lot it seems.
>>724715041I don't get this, why do autists get from this quote? Have sex fucking losers.
Remember kids, don't do drugs.
I genuinely hope that I can amass a fanbase of drones as slavishly devoted as cherry drones are so that I may just pump out complete garbage and still make bank while doing it. That's the real dream.
>>724717398A handful of indie devs are butthurt over the price, but that shit barely matters in the grand scheme. Silksong's main problem is that it was designed for people who had utterly mastered Hollow Knight rather than for people who merely enjoyed it.
>>724714781FPBPSchizo posting had been on the rise lately
>>724718204Try making a good game then, doubt you can pull it off.
>>724718589That clearly isn't a prerequisite, looking at companies like Team Cherry and Game Freak.
>>724718394>>724718589I'm so glad we are on a website where people like you can't escape in their little updoot bubbles and instead get BTFO´d constantly in every thread you visit
>>724718664It clearly is in the case of Team Cherry, with GameFreak its all about brand recognition but even then, they earned that because their old games were good.>>724718926You won't do shit, faggot.
>>724718253I don't think that's true at all because I finished Silksong 100% including steel heart, all mementos etc multiple times and yet I've still never gone beyond pantheon 3 in HK.Even going back now, I find even the entry godhome stuff infinitely harder than even the "hardest" stuff in silksong.in fact i think the cater to different playstyles because of the difference in mobility options
>>724714043>Make sequel>It's not a direct copy>Some losers whine>Get goty awards anywayCherries stay winning
>>724714043hades troons have been coping that Silksong was a failure, when no one remembers their game.
>>7247189264chan is just the same as any of those faggot sites with upvote mechanics because you can just get a discord brigade to raid any thread and cultivate the opinion you want>>724718204you probably blame all of your shortcomings in life on bad luck
>>724719019lmao at this cope.HK is shallow and steals from better games.Pokemon was always janky trash.
Wonder how this faggot feels
>>724718204>>724718926hundreds of terrible dogshit cashgrab games come out every year, and yet you choose one of the few good games to have a melty about. what is wrong with you?
>>724719159Alright, but the entire world disagrees with you so cope with that I guess.
>>724719203He's coping and seething in this very thread I bet.
What makes silksongfags to troon out?
>>724719494>bottom leftWould
I see Silksong is gonna be a /v/ staple that people wills eethe at for years to come just like hk
>>724719494I would unironically fuck the red hair one with glasses
>angry craw noises
>>724718253>it was designed for people who had utterly mastered Hollow Knight rather than for people who merely enjoyed it.I played through HK once and was thrashed by Radiance dozens of times and never played through the Pantheon (I never even beat Zote). I beat Silksong 100%.
>>724719297The existence of other bad games does not preclude Silk Song from being bad, and those other games don't have threads.>>724719302>the entire worldDelusional fanboy.
>>724719494id fucking do anything for a girl like this who also has a cock holy fuck how do i get a tranny gf like this bwos..
>>724720156/v/ lost and got rapedagain
I dont think I've seen /v/ contrarians get this agitated over a goty since BG3
>>724719625>>724720193>>724720259>>724720335Why is there so much overlap between HK fanboys and loving gay sex/rape?
>>724720335>HK fanboysive never played HK, i just saw a cute tranny and wanted to post about it
>>724720070Same thing happened when DaS2 and Bloodborne released. People try to apply the same strategy from the previous game and think they're good>I'm actually good at Souls games, it's games fault that I'm bad
>>724719925
>>724719203>words words wordsMeanwhile, an actual CHADnon would say this.
>>724714043Just wait for The Steel City expansion
>>724718253>Silksong's main problem is that it was designed for people who had utterly mastered Hollow Knight rather than for people who merely enjoyed it.None of my complaints about Silksong are difficulty related. I think the game is too empty for its size and relegates too many upgrades to the shops instead of natural exploration, making exploration an unrewarding slop. It added too many artificial limitations that make certain mechanics unfun to use like the fucking shell shards and the new tools, charged attacks and magic are significantly less fun than the knight's arsenal. It introduced bear asses fetch quests for absolutely no reason but to pad the playtime. It doesn't properly reward you for bosses and gauntlets. And generally the setting and story are just a vast fucking downgrade and i genuinely despise Lace.
>>724718253The funny thing is that I got filtered so hard by Absolute Radiance that I never finished HK, and yet I 100%'d SS with no issue. I'll go back to finish HK one day but it's probably going to feel like shit being that slow again.
>>724718253>it was designed for people who had utterly mastered Hollow KnightLmao the loudest complaints about solksong came from the autists who'd utterly mastered Hollow Knight about aiming Hornet's downward dash in Hunter's march. Who tf do you think you're fooling?
>>724721412>too many upgrades to the shops instead of natural explorationimo SS wasn't terrible about that, HK was much worse.>charged attacks and magic are significantly less fun than the knight's arsenal.I never really used the knight's version of charged attacks while a few of Hornet's ones were actually really good. Magic I agree is an issue, but a large part of that is just healing being so damn expensive for most of the game that using spells in anything but the most conservative way inhibits your ability to recover, while healing puts you down so much on silk that you're better off just focusing on filling back up.
>>724721680>I never really used the knight's version of charged attacksIf you never used cyclone slash you literally missed one of the best offensive tools in HK, that thing was absolutely cracked and witch's charged attack is its pale shadow.
>>724721412What do you mean, aren't you happy to find some rosaries or a shell shard bundle for finding the secret area in the hidden room?Silksong's biggest weakness is Act 3, though. It's just a huge nothing burger.
>/v/ still seething that silksong didn't turn out to be bing bing wahoo babycore
>>724720335As it turns out, /v/ had absolutely nothing to do with tortanic's mess of a launch. and as a result /v/'s capacity to predict failure/success never really existed
>>724721926Act 3 is fine, Act 1 is actual shit. Your starting kit with Hornet is fucking terrible and the game just isn't fun at all until you get dash at the very least (which for most people starting out will probably be like an hour or two in). There was zero reason not to let Hornet start with at least a run, outside of Team Cherry being massive faggots that intentionally design their game poorly as a joke.
>>724714043>were gonna get another half decade of anons getting mad at hollow knightWhy are you idiots like this
>start new game>the flying enemies keep dodging my slashes>no second airdash>no close the gap toolLocking clawline to part 2 behind whiteward is the game's biggest sin honestly. Once you get that, Hornet's combat speed goes to the fucking moon and it feels like a kick to the nuts to play without it
>>724722128Act 1 was underwhelming, but 3 is a fucking liquid diarrhea. It has a very small number of new upgrades and they even nerfed the only act 3 exclusive crest, so the exploration aspect feels unrewarding. The new areas feel like alpha version drafts of actual areas. I genuinely prefer reversed castle and Chaos Realm in igavanias over this shit, at least the inverted geometry made the environments somewhat fresh.
>>724721926I disagree, biggest weakness is the devs deciding to make the first three levels after tutorials be lava levels. I and most players had no problem with these levels at all, but I'm not gonna recommend this game to my friends who are looking to try something that isn't COD brainrot. They'll quit before reaching Greymoor. And I'm being generous by assuming they don't try to get through Hunter's Marsh.For a game that the devs wanted to make as a better entry point to the series than HK, it missed the mark horribly by putting three large areas of Mount Hooru from Ori (you know, the final level of that game?) at the very start. The music for these three levels are also largely non-existent ambient crap, weakest OST in the game but that's what they put in the start for some reason.
>>724722315Oh yeah, clawline should've been either the first or a second upgrade you find. I'd argue it's the only upgrade in silksong that truly feels good to use.
>>724714043Mad because bad.
>>724722418>I'd argue it's the only upgrade in silksong that truly feels good to useClawlaine is great but the best upgrade in the game is cross stitch and its not even close
>>724722315you get a long range tool in the first hour. nail art is a bit far, but It does the job fine before clawline
>>724722628Cross stitch feels like a very lame parry compared to the likes of charged parry in nine sols. Hell, in HK descending dark had iframes so you could literally use it for the same goal.
>>724722315>whitewardWas I the only person to get into the eastern underworks from Trobbio? I wasn't about to just suddenly leave the eastern part of the citadel to unlock a thing when I still had the Cogwork Core and then Whispering Vaults to explore.
>>724718394Its due to 3i/Atlas.You've heard about how lunacy has its roots in people becoming dangerously erratic during full moons?Similar concept.The passage of this foreign object is influencing the unconscious minds of everybody on earth to a minor degree.Not enough to turn a normal guy into a psycho, but more than sufficient to nudge pre-existing schizos into going apeshit.
>>724722749Because you have clearly not used cross stitch properly, it's iframes on demand>iframes when using cross stitch>iframes whike retaliating>i frames for 2 seconds after completing >will activate upon taking ANY damage-contact, bells, rocks, weapons like boomerangs, swords and spears, thread, acid, fire, bombs, lava, void, it does not matter, if it does damage it WILL activateOnce you get cross stitch, you're functionally invincible. Every attack you'd spend 9 silk notches to heal off can be blocked with four instead.It's as great as it gets
What causes melties of this magnitude? Silksong is a good game, no need to cry about it.
>>724714043How did their reputation and goodwill get destroyed?
>>724722418>Put Swift Step in Mosslands, change layout to prevent player from fighting Bell Beast early.>Put Clawline in Deep Docks where Swift Step was.>Just make it so Silkspear is acquired from the otherwise pointless Moss Mother fight if you really need an early game spell, if you really need to put something in the Cauldron then make a cheap and easy damage upgrade to Silkspear.There you go.
Weaving a poisoned dagger between attacks was cool. It felt like I was Neenja
>>724722847I think White Ward was the last place I explored in act 2.I just didn't notice it since I basically never passed through the area.
>>724714043Their reputation was that the game would never come out, so I don't see the point you're trying to make
>>724715041That's pretty arophobic/acephobic of you, Hornet.
>>724721412>making exploration an unrewarding slopexploring pharloom to find the Exhaust organ behind THREE secret areas (sinner's road, bilewater, mist), fighting Phantom and finishing her off with her own move, only to discover that this is the back route to the citadel is the part where the game absolutely peaked for me. I pity the poor fools who looked this up and denied themselves the experience
>>724724048oh wow, 3 areas just to get a mediocre speciallike, yeah, it's probably the best stretch in the game but it also showcases how utterly bland the rewards you're getting are
>>724714043This game is full of bugs
>>724724260Your mother's vagina is full of bugs.
>>724715041Your autistic obsession can't be healthy.
>>724724176>mediocre special>can be used anytime, anywhere to nullify any damageI get it, you're looking for reasons to bitch and whine. But this one isnt going to work
>>724714043What did they do now?
a couple of people in my neighborhood went out as hornet for halloween. it was pretty cool. you are all filtered shitters btw, git gud
>>724715041This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once.
>>724714043>destroyed reputation and goodwillHow? by creating a game for their fans who played and liked hollowknight instead of going for mass market appeal like most games these days?
>>724724570>can be used anytime*needs 4 silk pips for something basic spacing already achieves in a game already starved for silk all the time
>>724724878Which fans? Tumblrinas?
>>724724912>already starved for silk all the timeWhy?Go on anon, tell the class why you cant maintain a full silk spool
>>724722128>Your starting kit with Hornet is fucking terrible and the game just isn't fun at alljust awful take>>724723172at it's worst there's nothing functionally wrong with the game, but it's a whole lot of>i don't like [feature] so the game is shit>i'm bad so the game is shit>non argument how the game is "tedious" or "exhausting"it's like they played a different game, truly a strange phenomenon
>>724725182Because you will get hit, dipshit. You're not special, and you're not some sort of no hit sweatlord.
>>724725231>just awful takeYou start slow as fuck with an only so-so moveset. I would even argue that starting out as the knight in HK is less painful than being early game Hornet.SS before you get dash is genuinely a bad game, fanboy.
>>724725182not him, but i heal often bc i get hit often bc i'm not the best but i still have a lot of fun with it.on the flip, it's pretty fucking awesome to play aggressively with silk skills instead of healing all the time. i let loose on first sinner and stomped her face in the dirt after only a few tries
>>724722847No, same here. I didn't know there was another way to get to the eastern underworks without going through Trobbio? What the fuck.
>>724723598You explored white ward after memorium, and whisp thicket? fucking really?
>>724722375The only real lava level is Deep Docks where 70% of it is closed off early game. Far Fields is mostly grassy plains with some lava at the bottom
>>724722128>start with the upgradesMaybe you shouldn't play metroidvanias.
>>724724048It's literally impossible to get past the mist without looking it up.
>>724725445>Because you will get hit, dipshitExcept I used cross stitch which cost me 4 silk pips to laugh off what would otherwise take up a full silk spool to healI dont think I need to explain the math here. >>724725475Silk skills are great but silk spear and cross stitch are just good il' reliable 1 and 2. Too bad Storm got gutted though
>>724725712You didn't once stop to think why those fireflies kept on leading you into the entrance to the Mist?
>>724725712It's possible if you have more than two braincells and notice the butterflies leading you when you enter the mist. Just pay attention
>>724714043OK schizo
>>724715041>incels still mad about this for some reason
>>724725712It's a basic bitch Lost Woods puzzle. You are dumber than a child finding the Master Sword for the first time in Zelda
>>724725708You start with the ability to run in Super Metroid, which is a far better metroidvania than this trash.
>>724724864This is my favorite pasta this year
>>724725712>>724725445>these are the retards calling silksong badMaybe you journos should stick to games closer to your skill level like candy crush or clash of clans
>>724715041Based and true
>>724725752>Except I used cross stitch which cost me 4 silk pips to laugh off what would otherwise take up a full silk spool to healor you did it into emptiness and wasted the silkwe've all been there
>>724726224Post yourself streaming steel soul
>>724715931>budDUDE
>>724725449>starting from zero is bad game designi just don't get it. play a different game and stop bitching about this one.
>>724719494lol
>>724726546as long as you don't miss more than half it is still a more efficient mask per silk usage, you don't suck that much do you bro?
>>724726682You probably shouldn't enter a public discussion about a game if you aren't prepared to see criticisms of that game.
>>724726628>you need to beat steel soul to figure out a basic bitch ass lost woods puzzledang bro are you that one cuphead playing journalist?
>>724726781Is that a threat?
>>724725658From what I remember, when I accessed the citadel I did some exploring, but mostly stuck to the 'north/west' side of it. The south-east side (anything below the spa) I basically forgot existed until I looked at my map towards the end of Act 2 to see if I had unexplored doors/openings that would be a hint to new areas.That's my recollection.
>>724724864this is hilarious but the humor is drained at the end by the fact that there are "people" who actually think like this
>>724726546The parry comes out immediately so no. Fatfingering cross stitch when you get cornered and are about to eat shit is the only "skill" you need to use it effectively. Holy shit /v/ sucks at games
>>724726034You don't start with the speed booster in SM faggot.
>/v/tard crying about a game is revealed to be an extreme shitter who got filteredKek literally every time.
>>724726024The solution to the lost woods is outright told to you by an NPC in the original Zelda.
>>724725752>Too bad Storm got guttedya rip. my first run was on pirated unpatched and i barely used silk skills. started my second run on steam and started leaning into them, fuckin silk spear it is.>>724725712fag>>724724048i used the interactive map sparingly. i love exploring in these games but i work a lot and when i've been playing for 6+ hours straight sometimes i want a little hint to keep goingonce in awhile it backfires and i accidentally cheat myself out of the full experience of finding something cool completely on my own
>>724724778based and based
>>724727219Explain how you're supposed to know to play the needolin for the fucking butterflies, nigger? You looked it up too, I know you did.
>>724726959Speed booster != running. Super Metroid lets your run from the start of the game, there's even an early puzzle that forces you to run past vanishing blocks to proceed.There's no reason why early SS needs you to be so fucking slow, and that's on top of obnoxious forced scenes and slow ass dialogue. It's a very anti-fun game.
>>724718204It's not that hard. It's the gaylo effect. Find a demographic that has never played a certain genre and convince them that you've invented it.
Knight's moveset > Hornet'sKnight's charged attacks > Hornet'sKnight's spells > Hornet'sKnight's charms > Hornet'sKnight's healing > Hornet'sHornet's mobility > Knight'sHK feels like a sequel to Silksong, not the other way around
>>724725712It took me a while, but I figured it out. The main thing was that I wasn’t sure if it was a puzzle to figure out or if I just needed some extra item from someplace else. Then I tried going the same direction a bunch, or going a different direction every time, or going the direction that seemed to have butterflies near it. I figured it had to be the butterflies, but it wasn’t until I came back and noticed the ones at the start leading you onward that I realized you must have to activate them somehow.
>>724727316>Hollow Knight seethers are the same Quaketrannies crying about Halo hallucinating things nobody said to feel fursecutedThis thread is very informative
>>724727418>Knight's healing > Hornet'smaybe in act 1 before any spool upgrades but air healing 3 masks in 1 second fucking shits on the original healing of HK
>>724720193Be pleasant and decentIt's actually pretty easy
>get the true version of silkshot >absolutely dumpstering everything with a fucking laser railgun I’m so glad my autism didn’t allow me to give the broken dildo to the first person who asked.
>>724719494cute>>724727729this
>>724727418>Knight's healing > Hornet'sThat's just objectively wrong and tells me you didn't play the game.
>>724727789I was still pretty happy with my forge silkshot in my reaper's crest, butan I feel sorry for the guys who went for the dumpster fire that is the architect's one
>>724727789I still dont get the hype behind the laser gun, the 1 second charge up before firing it makes it insufferable to use for me.I'd much rather stick to Forge daughter's glock
>>724727708Knight's healing is superior because it's interchangeable with magic. It makes all mechanics work together well rather than forcing one over another. The fact it requires more commitment is a good thing for balancing purposes too.
>>724715041WE MUST BE BETTER BUGS
>>724728014I almost had it. But I ended up not having a spare craftmetal after buying the rest of the Architects stuff so I ended up not getting that version. Lucky me again but it does suit the red Aesthetic.
>>724728014I think the reason architect shot is so bad is because this is theoretically a silkshot version you can permanently lock yourself out of if you clean architect's shop out too early
>>724719494(2,3), (3,1), (5,1)kill the rest
>>724726781but criticisms like these are completely subjective. it's 2 and a half levels from start to when you get the dash. it's like 2 hours tops. the game wants you to know how to play without the dash.you probably shouldn't post your criticisms if you aren't prepared to get called out by people who didn't think it was problem. it's hilarious to me when people bitch about things i enjoyed and were a big draw for me.
Fucking bile water >go through 60 miles of obnoxious >fight through an ambush of the most annoying niggers >oh, and there’s a boss after I’m sure there’s a secret bench SOMEWHERE, but I don’t want to look it up.
>>724727041And the game outright tells you the solution to the Mist. A bunch of fireflies literally lead you into the area then you see them throughout the Mist
>>724728389There is and its probably the best hidden secret in the game.
>>724718253Thr fact that people are bad at platformers in the year of our lord 2025 will always baffle me
>>724728038again, that might be true on act 1 but if your spool is long enough you should already be using more spells, also more than commitment it's the fact that HK healing stops the flow of the battle so badly and facilities facetanking so much that team cherry's solution to it was to make the endgame bosses so spastic you couldn't get a healing window unless they are staggered, as hard as silksong bosses are finding healing windows on them is way more doable and feels more good
Bros I just now lost my Steel Soul run to Tormented Trobbio
>>724725712>grey samey looking environment where everything blends together>except for one thing (the fireflies)You're too retarded for Hollow Knight.
>>724727293>obnoxious forced scenes and slow ass dialogueDo you have ADHD or something?
>>724728389That's the biggest problem with HK and SS, the benches should be unmissable. Either that or have a functional map like a proper metroidvania. Better yet, have both. Sadly the game has catered to speedrunning trannies from the beginning. People complaining about the platforming don't know what they're talking about it's piss easy on purpose, clearly designed to be speedran through.
>>724720156How is Silksong bad?
>whole game is full of bosses, and even regular enemies, you can’t be too aggro against because they have one or two attacks that come out instantly and will fuck you if you’re in the wrong spot >get to Grammy silk and she just floats there with no such attack >finally get to go full aggro and shred her in record time So fucking satisfying.
>>724728624Even fucking VNs where the whole point is to read have the option to fast forward text. A metroidvania should also have the option, especially for replays.
>>724728550Spool size doesn't fucking matter because you're always better off buffering the next heal. Knight could adapt on the fly.Only allowing you to heal during stagger windows is a far better solution, too.
>>724728589I did a HK steel soul run, but the idea of attempting it in SS just makes me cry. I feel like any random ambush encounter COULD kill you if you get bad luck. If there are 3 enemies on screen, they might just happen to cover all your options.
>>724727284did you ... not play around with the new skill you just got?did you not see the butterflies lead you to the mist then just hang around obviously waiting for you to do something?i did eventually look up how to do the mist bc i didn't know how many rooms to go but using the needolin on the butterflies was the first thing i fucking did. you people are amazing>>724727418i need to replay hollow knight
>>724714043more like>destroys the reputation of every single indie dev because they will never live up to this
>>724728821>Only allowing you to heal during stagger windows is a far better solution, too.You do realize that means choosing spells and going through most of the bossfight without healing, right? The same thing you were bitching at silksong about?
>>724728550Not having healing windows is a good thing. It forces you to use soul offensively, which is a skill you should have.
724718204This bait got 4 replies. Not bad but a little too obvious
>>724728810... It does.
>>724715041Looking at this after noticing all the h-game-like elements seems to be a way to move her farther away from mortal beings. In the way that monsterfuckers like in particular since they love an alien mind.I find it funny that this line could have the opposite affect for 2 different groups.
>>724715041The fact that this is the ONLY post people use to try to criticize Silksong ( and that being a description of an enemy that 99% of players won't even notice) is proof of how fucking incredible that game.
>>724728821>you're always better off buffering the next healthat's insane and only applicable if you are going full wanderer facetanker, if your spool is full to mostly full and you can fire a spell without shutting down the healing you 100% should fire one, after all a boss dying faster means less healing too>the duct-taped solution that invalidates the whole mechanic into just getting a glorified health drop on staggering is betterok so you are just talking out your ass now
>>724718204That's easy, just make 2 of the greatest game ever made.
>>724728821>always better off buffering the next heal.You could have just said youre bad at videogames and avoided this whole chain of replies.
>>724728989>You do realize that means choosing spells and going through most of the bossfight without healing, rightYes. But it also means you always have at least some amount to heal inbetween stages instead of all or nothing. Far better design.
>>724729230baby's first metroidvania?
>>724728629hit every wall like an autist or use use the interactive map nobody cares if you use a guide. bilewater is such an anomaly with how annoying it is it should flag you that you missed somethingi found the secret room with the bilewater secret bench but i didn't hit every wall like an autist so i felt really stupid when i caved and looked it up.>>724728810omg just hit B on the controller>>724728612>grey sameyunrelated but i think there was some retard awhile back that was saying all the environments are samey grey background bullshit which is just hilariously wrong
>>724729108Mashing to get through text faster != holding a button to fast forward dialogue
>>724715931I would have enjoyed this sidequest if there were a better reward than another stupid crest.
Crests and tools suck ass. The Charm system was one of the best parts of HK and I don't know why they abandoned it.
>>724729219>that's insane and only applicable if you are going full wanderer facetankerNo, it's applicable to any crest. None of these mediocre spells are worth it over a heal, especially after they raped silk storm.
>>724729331>But it also means you always have at least some amount to heal inbetween stages instead of all or nothing. Far better design.Because you get punished less for fucking up. Why didnt you add that part?
>>724718253>designed for people who had utterly mastered Hollow Knight rather than for people who merely enjoyed it.i was absolute dogshit at hk, i didn't even fight hollow knight bc i made it to the boss room and called it quits. silksong is way easier, probably bc hornet is much more fluid to control and has tools.or it's bc i started riding a motorcycle in 2018 and my reflexes got better
>>724729338>Y-YOU CAN'T JUST HECKING SAY IT'S BETTER THAN SUPER METROID AND SOTN! OOOOOOH REDDIT'S NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS!I don't care what reddit thinks about games. Or whoever's opinion your empty shell is acting as a vessel for. Yes Hollow Knight is the best Metroidvania and one of the best games of all time. Cope, seethe, dilate and cry.
>>724729384You're upset you need to Tap a button instead of holding it?
>>724729414I never found a crest that didn’t feel like a downgrade. I never found a yellow charm other than the compass that felt worthwhile. Meanwhile, I’ve got a dozen blues I wish I could use.
>>724729423>None of these mediocre spells are worth it over a healIm impressed at just how much of a shitter you are. you choose to forgo silk skills entirely because you take it for granted that youll only ever use it to healThe Architect and Beast crests are made for glue sniffers like you
>>724729617reddit loves silksong btw
>>724729423>None of these mediocre spells are worth it over a healgit gud. i'm pretty bad, but on my second play i started being more aggressive with spells and if you dodge good enough and don't panic you can amass enough silk to both heal adequately and spell often.>raped silk stormdamn shame seeing as i just started using my wizard powers
more like silk-slop!
>>724729642Yes that's the point.
>>724728397At doesn't outright tell you anything. There are random butterflies throughout the game as background decorations. It's not like they're only in that area.
>>724727960Nah, he's right. Knight's healing is slower but it's far less committal in regards to resources and opportunity cost, you don't get fucked straight up the ass for getting hit out of it and the cost is much more reasonable given the game's systems.Something important to note as well is that two damage hits are far more common in SS than they are in HK, so that "technically better healing" looks a lot worse when you consider that 3 hits in SS terms is basically 1.5 hits for most of HK's main game.
>>724729423>especially after they raped silk storm.What happened?Glad I have my day 1 install files from GoG if they're fucking shit up.
>>724728346>the game wants you to know how to play without the dash.Why? You're going to be using the dash for the rest of the game after that.>you probably shouldn't post your criticisms if you aren't prepared to get called out by people who didn't think it was problem.Literal "no u" tier argument but ok.
>>724729423>None of these mediocre spells are worth it over a heal,dodging damage with cross stitch literally is more efficient than a heal bro
>>724728705Tedious, time-consuming, poorly designed to cater to speedtrooners, terrible level design, terrible boss design, boring OST, woke shit everywhere, take your pick.
>>724729805Seems like the point is dumb.
>>724729108>>724729372>Silksong fags have never played a game that wasn't SS or HK.
>>724730050Silk storm previously did like double the damage of any other silk skill, now it's more in line with the others
>>724729230Team Cherry didn't make Tetris or Yoshi's Island.
>>724730136Team Tranny cocksuckers don't play games, yeah.
>>724729617>I've never played another Metroidvania in my life but I will still say Tranny Knight and Tranny Knight: Suckdong are better than all of them
Its an ok game, they just went overboard with tedium and lazy gauntlet/gangbang room abundance. Didn't get the whole HK craze either. Seems okay and thats it.They probably didn't want to make "that part: the game", but they actually did.
>>724730087Dodging with cross stich can literally end with you being inside enemy hurtboxes, it's shit.
>>724718253I never did Godhome and still really enjoyed Silksong and did 100% in that.Why do people always gotta lie about SS difficulty? It's not that hard nigga just accept you're shite instead of trying to make it out to be some tryhard game.
>>724730358Position better you fucking filtered scrubHoly shit
>>724729617Why are tumblrtroons like this?
>>724730305>"that part: the game"A good way to describe silksong, honestly.
If you want a good indication of /v/'s faculties, there was an anon here who was so assblasted by fourth chorus that he started spamming pizza in every silksong threads he could see.
>>724730358you get like a full second of invulnerability after the counter so you specifically avoid that scenario shitterbro
>>724724864This, but unironically.
>>724730305It's a shame because the good parts of the game are really good. But there's so much bullshit in between which drags the whole thing down.
>>724730461Did people seriously get filtered by that easy ass boss
>>724730461>tfw you miss out on a pizza party just because you’re trying to avoid spoilers
>>724729642yellow>dice>wall grip>speed anklets>weighted belt is great>double damage if you're really good (i'm not)>the rest are passive for farming etc; extremely situationalhunter is best crest but it's locked behind a less than stellar pogo so i don't use it bc reaper fits my play style better. they're niche on purpose for people who want some variety. wanderer might as well be easy mode.it's a shame some things are unlocked so late in the game like long claw, i wish there was more going on so i could really play around with all the cool stuff i found. an ng+ would be ballin' if you got to keep everything but health/silk upgrades
>>724727418>Knight's moveset > Hornet'sBullshit, Knight controls like a brick and his jump feels more like anti-gravity floating than an actual jump.>Knight's healing > Hornet'sArguable, HK has multiple bosses where healing is borderline impossible, in SS you can just jump and you will safely heal in every single boss in the game.
>>724714043they got too good at their own game so they had a twisted sense of gameplay design
>>724730531This shithole got filtered by Margit, what the hell do you think?
>>724715041>AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE I MADE THIS FICTIONAL BUG MY WIFE AND SHE FICTIONAL CHEATED ON MEYou're as bad as tumblrniggers freaking out when their fujoshit is confirmed not canon.
>>724730531>>724730641YOU ARE SO FUCKING COOL ELITE GAMERS HOLY SHIT I WISH I WAS THIS FUCKING COOL OH MY GOD YOU'RE LITERALLY SO AWESOME AND ADMIRABLE CAN I PLEASE SUCK YOUR DICKS MR. GOD GAMERS
>>724715931she technicaly consented
>>724714043Had fun at work, funny western syssys.
>>724720362Couldn't tell you.I guess it's the same reason /v/ wanted to fuck linetrap.
>>724730718It's the third boss, anon. I'm not sorry that hit a nerve
>>724730836Shaw
>>724730448Thats just how I honestly felt. Its like they double downed on most annoying things of hollow knight, and made a whole game out of it. In the end of the day it had me feeling "thank god this is over", not truly the sense of joyful accomplishment, but a sense of relief when you get past something rustling your jimmies or get a splinter out of your thumb
>>724730136>You don't play other games>Doesn't know you can skip dialogue by tapping a buttonright...
>>724728895That's what silk skills are for, delete 1 out of the 3 enemies that spawn in every wave and have a nice easy time fighting the other two
>>724730867Fourth unless you use a key.But I agree, Fourth Chorus was piss easy and I don't know how people got filtered by "jump and hit up."
>fay mountain >cog core I love platforming.
>>724730410You fucking nigger, it's literally random, you cannot predict what will happen with several enemies or an erratic boss on screen, that skill is a gigantic waste of time compared to just zipping around with clawline.
>>724731063I could see someone panicking when floor starts disappearing. But yeah, I loved that boss. Still one of my favorites.
>>724730589Knight literally has a more powerful wanderer as a baseline moveset, he rapes Hornet's movesets raw
>>724729386Anon there's an entire unique ending as a reward, I don't know what more you want.
>>724731412The said ending is an artistic equivalent of shitting down your throat
>>724719297>what is wrong with you?Like all other whiny bitches, he cries over any game that requires any amount of effort
After almost 2 months, /v/tards still make bait threads about this game, as their tiny brains can comprehend the success of this masterpiece...What does this say about society?
>>724722375>he music for these three levels are also largely non-existent ambient crap, weakest OST in the game but that's what they put in the start for some reason.Bone Bottom is a nice track
>>724730062>why?exploring and finding tools/skills/upgrades/crests to get stronger and have a varied playstyle is a big draw for these types of games. duhyou start with nothing and bumble around knowing you'll find something eventually. half the fun of these games is exploring. you do not spend enough time without dash for it to be an issue.>Literal "no u" tier argumenttelling me i should be prepared to see criticism of the game was a "no u" argument.i'm not trying to be mean anymore anon. you're criticisms are subjective and complete non issues to people who enjoyed them.
>>724722375>weakest OST in the game but that's what they put in the start for some reasonplay with headphonesalso starting low and was a good idea bc citadel it absolutely magical regarding the ost
>>724730560Dice is only really useful because it's one of the only combat applicable equips, if it was blue you'd literally never see anyone use it.Weighted belt is solid but mostly just because it works so well with the most fun crest in the game (Wanderer)
>>724731503You can argue its merits but you cant argue that its pretty significant, which is what you wanted.
>>724732837>citadel it absolutely magical regarding the ostI literally don't remember a single citadel track aside from cogwork core, just like the citadel itself is just a bunch of bland white corridors.
>>724732837https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWANCA-Pbw&list=PLmOldskd2VbKCFNaN2kRCGbFVZaKPpeZ-&index=23vshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4WCRgzUlRw&list=PLbNT78Q7M14yC4iIN4RaQqGa6q6zY6bqc&index=30Who wins best decadent, ethereal dead kingdom of glory theme?
>>724732950Yeah...the music was nice in this game but I feel like there's way less standout tracks than in HK. Where's Silksong's Hornet, or Mantis Lords, or Greenpath, or City of Tears?Can't really name anything of comparable quality.
>>724733430>Silksong's HornetJailbreak fight>GreenpathStarting area lol
>>724714043they didn't
>>724726845A threat to what? Spam trannyfrogs?
>>724715041THISAct 3 was RUINED when I learned the Bellbeast was a pregnant slut the whole time.WHY WOULD TEAM CHERRY DO THIS
>>724715931nah.he's cute
>>724734350Spamming frogs isn't a threat, it's a promise.
>>724725449>I would even argue that starting out as the knight in HK is less painful than being early game Hornet.The only thing worse is the diagonal pogo when you're first getting used to it, and even then the average HK player (keyword: average) didn't realize they could pogo until the Fungal Wastes forced them to. Meanwhile having a fucking ledge grab right from the start makes Hornet better than early HK.The main difference early on is that SS is more punishing with early 2-damage enemies and lava, but throwing those at you before you get the silkspear and dash is to emphasis that you're supposed to be more mobile and less facetanky than in HK, which is a gameplay that's reinforced the entire game.
Silksong is easier then Hollow KnightSome of the tools in Silksong are so broken overpowered that they trivialize the game in a way Hollow Knight never could be.
>>724728589Dang bro, you're retarded. It's a completely optional boss. You don't even need him for 100% completion.
>>724731097>I love platforming.if this were true you wouldnt have anything good to say about cogwork core and mount faySILKSLOP SHILLS SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PLAY LITERALLY ANY GAME THAT ISNT HOLLOW KNIGHT HOLY FUCK YOU MINDLESS TASTELESS DICKSUCKERS NEED ADMIT YOU WASTED SEVEN YEARS POSTING ON REDDIT OVER A GAME THAT TURNED OUT MID OR TO GO THE FUCK BACK
>>724735072I guarantee I've played more 2D platformers than you have.
>>724714043They refused to let more than a few people play test it according to inside sources. The lack of feedback and actual action to adjust things prior to launch is completely on them.
>>724735072>cogwork core and mount fayThose are of the best sections of the game. Get gud you absolute pleb
>>724735298>theyre the least shit parts of the shit pie therefore that makes them remotely on par with actually good platformersreddit misses you im sure
>>724731097They were alright but I feel like the game lacked a really meaty platforming challenge like the White Palace was.
>>724718253>utterly mastered Hollow KnightI'm not great at the game, never played HK and just got to act 3 after starting a few days ago. git gud lmao
>>724717976It's just one/a few autists mad that their stickbug waifu isn't as pure as a newly-evolved Gardevoir.
>>724723005>hates on schizos>posts schizo-tier garbageLmfao
>>724729617Exposed
>industry shills pissed at studio cherry because they wanted to release shovelware garbage for $100
>>724735072Melty!
>>724735678You can tell who's an industry shill when they post regurgitated focus-tested bullshit about what "objectively bad" game design supposedly is.>no you can't put this in your game, our marketing suits and college professors (who are professors because they can't get an actual development job) say it's bad!
>Holy shit Team Cherry, where is Silksong?>We've been waiting six years for it!>*PLOPS STEAMING TURD ON A PLATE*>There you go, go-. I mean guys!they spent too much time on Reddit getting their micro e-peens sucked off
>>724718664>like Team Cherry and Game FreakEven putting petty biases aside, you have legitimate double-digit IQ if you think these two's quality ethics are even in the same ballpark.
>>724733487>Jailbreak fightI'm not looking for the actual tracks I mentioned little guy but tracks of similar quality.
>>724734465I always assumed hornet fucked her with a big ass futacock some time after the winning the boss fight, so those were hornets kids.
>>724734980Silksong is way easier for the simple fact that Hornet is so much more agile. It's literally impossible for it to be as hard as Hollow Knight.
>>724735678>3/10 ugly 3DPD gook as a reaction imageWhy?
>>724715041>tfw you realise Hornet is Connor Macleodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W94STMl8IMM
>high halls gauntleti think i'm out fellas
>>724736483Honestly with how much I heard it hyped up before I played HK, Hornet's theme ended up being pretty average compared to the rest of the game's soundtrack. I could mention multiple tracks from both games that were more memorable than it, but I know you're just going to give a flippant "hurr durr all those are shit" reply.
>>724719494>bottom leftDoes a bj from a feel different from them because if I can't tell...
>>724736913Buy more maps
>>724736659say it again punkass nigger
>>724714043The first game was an A (-) The sequel was a solid BThe only issue I had with the game was that progression was really shitty until you got all your tools and the area that removes all your tools was also awful. The bosses are great. The platforming was rather lukewarm.
>>724737003That's a man.
just beat the cogwork dancers on my steel soul run!im probably going to stop progressing on the main story, i need as many mask and shit as possible before high halls
>>724714043Slop consoomers think otherwise
>>724737540The slab was unique, fun, and a breath of fresh air. The bosses are too easy with the exception of a few in Act 3. Platforming is practically the only challenge, but even then, it's easier than the special world in any Mario game.
>>724729874Not really, they're only really ever that prominent in the Mist. Everywhere else they're stuck in lampposts or robots
>>724737540>bosses are greatA few bosses are great, the majority is ass
>>724737540My big issue with platforming is that clawline was tied to silk meter for some retarded reason so there's a delay before it generates a new charge. You can make delay shorter but it's still there, and it drains your silk between fights.The entire game feels like they were coming up with solutions to the problems they themselves created for no reason.
>>724728397nta but the game offers no indication that playing the needolin would do anything. I only figured it out because I experimented, but it's not intuitive.
>>724738645It's tied to silk for combat balance, so the player needs to actually aim with it instead of spamming blindly. Yes this means they need to come up with solutions to that for pure platforming challenges, but I never felt it was intrusive. Oh no I need to wait a second before the silk regens and actually plan ahead keeping my silk in mind. It wasn't that big a deal.
>>724714043>>724715041Is it just one anon spamming this shit?
>>724735415Nameless Town
>>724738172>unique, fun, and a breath of fresh airslopgpt post
>>724738409I probably would've tried using needolin IF THE FUCKING THING DIDN'T WASTE SILK DESPITE BEING GENERALLY USELESS 99% OF GODDAMN TIME. What the fuck were they thinking with that?
>>724724778Saw a guy dressed as Dante at the store yesterday.
>>724739034You get 1 constantly refreshing silk due to your silk heart
>>724714043You people just say anything.
>>724738885In combat it's literally impossible to miss clawline so it's a moot point.
>>724735000I did it because I'm not a pussy and am doing all bosses.
>>724714043It's gonna win Best Indie of the Year, and you will sneed about it
>>724738738You're meant to wander around the Mist for awhile and get lost before deciding to experiment with stuff like that. Its a secret area that leads to the Citadel's back door, you're not meant to effortlessly navigate it
>>724739162You're learning
>>724718253You're literally just bad. I beat Hollow Knight once and didn't bother with boss rush slop past fighting the new additions.
this game could have been so much better. the whole experience is spoiled by mmo elements, excessive platforming, and uneven challenge -> reward mechanism
>>724724864Acting like Hornet (on-model) isn't hot.
>>724739416You already need to find one of two breakable walls, with the more obvious of the two leading to the lower half of Bilewater and needing to find another breakable wall instead of just dipping out at the bellway, and deal with the wraiths and platforming obstacles, all without falling into the mist once because that sends you to the start. It really would not have been egregious for there to be some kind of tell that the silk flies respond to the needolin without having to remember Lace doing something seemingly irrelevant before you beat her ass the first time.
>>724738157High halls ain't shit with fully upgraded health, needle and tools effectives against fat dudes, even without Shakra. It's the Beastfly you need to worry about
>>724740774Beastfly 2 is easy as shit if you remember to actually kill the adds.
>>724714043>why'd they do it?Australians.
>>724735264The biggest problem with Silksong, long runbacks to bosses, was present in HK too and widely criticized so they clearly weren't even taking criticism they knew of.
>>724734980>>724736582I played both for the first time back to back, excluding DLC shit Hollow Knight is the easier game by far. Less punishing, generally better tools, shriek is actually fucking retarded and shreds even Radiance pretty quickly. SS ramps up retardedly fast and you only really start to catch up in Act 2. I'm pretty sure I raked up more deaths in Act 1 SS than I did my entire run of HK.I'm pretty sure that most people who say HK was harder are people that spent way too much time playing HK challenge shit.
>>724739331And how is that working out for you, buddy? Out of Moss Grotto yet?
>>724736264You're not wrong I guess. Game Freak doesn't take a decade to put out a year's worth of work.
>>724719494The exact same thing as many other games before that. It became popular amongst normies so troons have decided to make it their personality to try and fit in with people and get validation
>>724741181I'm not playing rn lmao I just said I died in act 3 earlier.
>>724741139Act 1 SS is harder than early HK, but late SS is easier than late HK.
>>724714043game is 11/10 for twenty dollarsthis board is delusional
