How the FUCK can I avoid Ernest being killed by his rat Im on my second playthrough after 2.0 came out and I want to use a team of niggas Ive never used, papi ernest and either morton or one of the new ones, but the same thing has happened to me in my two games. back when I played I remember ernest showed up at your door but that doesnt seem to be the case now
>>724724875>he didn't kneel to the rat king
>>724724875Col. Squeakems didn't kill him, you can understand him if you have the Rat Crown
>>724725369is that the key here? Ive read that maybe with the crown I'd see Ernest isnt really dead?
TOTAL WIZARD DEATG
>Shadow is one of my favorites>New ending reveals he's just Sam from a alternate timeline and not a weird glob monsterFRAAANCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!
>>724726394that is the one new addition I dont like. I love everything else. characters, endings, apartments, you name it, but that seems... cheap. I hate timeloop shit
>>724726394Man you don't have to have an easy answer to every mystery. Sometimes there can just be a weird thing.
>>724726045you don't actually need the crown, just approach squeakems and have everyone block instead of attacking when the fight starts
Haven't played this game since its initial release, holy shit they added in quite a number of odd endings. Wtf is the true ending kek why does the visitor start turning everyone into video game characters
>>724724875Next time, after starting the fight with Squeakums, escape from it, then follow the rat.
>>724727451Yeah I tried that, thank god I had a usable save. its papineu and ernest until I get the philster then Ill just beat the rest of the rooms with my three new besties. thanks anons, I was about to drop it.
>>724727650It's just an anime shitpostThe REAL problem is the Unity ending being gay as fuck
>>724727650it's a shitpost ending but there is some grounding in the lore. the **visitor turns you into what you think a lot about and spend your time doing. since you sank 50 hours into the massacre princess game, the visitor decides that to you anime is real**
>>724726394that fucking sucks
You know, I never quite got furries, but playing this game I think I sort of get it. I'm not a furry, but it's kind of fun thinking what would I become if that actually happened. I would most likely become fused to my gaming chair and my 'puter, my car or my coworkers.
>>724724875Look Outside inspired me to try Fear & Hunger, but, I just didn't have as much fun.
>>724726045He isn't dead, if you have the crown Squeakems will tell you that Ernest have been kidnapped by rats (the corpse is a decoy) and you must go to a dungeon to free him, you do get both as permanent party members (altough you can't control the rat) afterward though
>>724731701you don't like to get (literally) raped every three seconds?
>>724730457The Unity ending is a anti-thesis to the regular endings. In the regular ending (You) are "holding the mirror" to the Visitor to show itself you guys are different and that it is doing a lot of damage to the planet and should leave, but in this ending you are "becoming The mirror" based on what Sybil learned, in that moment when his influence wasn't over earth, at the time, gave The Visitor the notion it is seeing a piece of itself that it needs to collect. The reason Sybil was able to write the note because she broke the telescope.
>>724726394i dont care for the new endings mostly due to the same reason, some things are better to just be left in secrecy, even when the half-truth sybil spouts will endlessly get repeated when someone mentions the visitor now
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>>724726394I don't understand why this is surprising/disappointing to so many, it was hinted at several times, for example when Shadow unravels Sam in the same way he ends up in Failed Ritual.
the denialfaggot fears the promise ending
Best encounter?For me, it's Taxidermy. He's a real bitch but also really cool
The trader has no more patience for haggling.
>>724733867Nice, I'm too busy playing the game and searching for every new thing to draw gayshit of it.
Hey anons, swinging by for just a second, since I need one answer and I'm out.Can items with treasure box icon be safely sold for $$$? I mean, are they used for any quests, or are just source of money?Also, do sale prices differ between merchants?
>>724735602The Mazes & Wizards set is needed to play DnD with Lyle, although his outcome in the Promise ending is the same regardless of whether you finish his campaign. I think that might be an oversight.
>>724735803Is it the only exception then? Can I sell the rest?
>>724736158Yes
Only on day 3 so far and having fun with it, pretty tough I've died a bunch. Recruited Leighbut I think I fucked up recruiting the tooth kid since I didn't let him hug me, ended up killing his family too except the little brother. Felt kind of bad about that especially with the mirror scene.
Does the game give you shit if you just steal everything not nailed down?
>>724737049Only a mirror scene
>>724724875>2 days leftwhere the fuck am I supposed to go for Unitytrying to do the fight and I keep getting boomed by a billion status effects, don't know where to go for each organ or which ones are completely useless to go after
>>724737169How many Iris Keys you got? There's portals to the areas where the organs are in Lyle's bedroom, the wounded neighbor's TV, the women's toilet (where Famine is), and nearby Hellsword
How do you even get started with the Meat Dimension? I've found a few entrypoints but the only one I could actually go through was the Rubble in the stargazer apt.
>>724737902Talk to the astronomers, they have new things to say if you played before 2.0.
>>724735475>Don't talk to me or my son ever again
>>724737459I had like 2 after going back into Apartment 35 and walking around, got the first one from the parking garage and used it on the eye TV and the sapper charge on the spine room door. Killed the pancreas, intestines, kidneys, and heart but the other organs are STILL fucking me up hard
>>724737902There's an Iris Key in the crack in the wall at the very bottom of the parking garage, you can only get it during/after the blackout. The entrances that take Iris Keys I've found are>the wall behind the meat door in Lyle's apartment>women's toilet behind the meat door on ground floor>static television in wounded neighbor's apartment>behind the boss in the underwater apartment on floor 2>room in the parking garage where you get the hellswordyou can also use a sapper charge to blow up the rubble in front of the bottom door in Spine's room, or attack Sybil directly after giving her the telescope to permanently transform her into her boss form and make her apartment an entrance into meat world (but you can't save anymore when you do this unless you sleep.)
>>724739264Not him but I'm glad to have confirmation that I can get a Unity ending on my Promise savefile
>>724739405it's pretty much the only way you can, you have to go out of your way to get Unity after making the promise anyway. Just remember the next time you sleep not to accidentally mash because that's the only time you're allowed to save anymore, once you start Unity you're basically locked in if you're on the last few days and killing all the minibosses in a short timeframe might fuck you over if you didn't explore meat world enough beforehand
so what are the hundred gods? are they basically just the combine?
>>724739959They're people who kept staying outside and growing, you see them on the roof
Does the Cursed Ritual achievement stack with the Unity achievement
>>724739959They're the ones who looked outside and got extremely lucky with their rolls. Instead of dying or turning into a shitty monster like most people, they transformed into giant monsters that can fuck anything up
>Have to scavenge up like 400-600 more bucks to proceed>Already cleared out most of the placeFUCK
>>724740474there should be an option to give Mr. Henderson an arm if you haven't already fed one to the wall
>>724740314it didn't stack with Promise when I did it, I had to specifically do Perfect Ritual
>recruit Dan>he has a skill that lets him attack three times but he goes blind>give him the accessory that makes him immune to blind>Give him the coat of arms>he now rages constantly and hits six times a turnJesus christ
I like the unity ending the best, seconded to the truth the rest feels like cope
>>724741056Me too but I also like Failed Ritual because Sam is retarded enough to fuck it up that badly.
>>724740614I already fed one to the wall
>>724740878>gave him war medal for immunity to panic>use his skill that makes him panic>still locks him out of his skillswhat the fuck
>>724741168I feel more connection to flawed since I feel that im smart enough to know something needs to happen but retarded enough not to fully get it and fuck it up even worse
he's just like me :)
>>724724875Has it been made any easier to recruit Morton? I wanted to start a new file to try out the new difficulty, but doing so would also mean I'll have to recruit him again, and it takes a lot of trial-and-error RNG to get him early.
Do I take the sword for the game back?
>>724739959I think it's implied that Charan is supposed to be one, since he directly talks about his mutation being like winning the lottery.
Give me one good reason not to love her
>>724742902you were given several in the previous thread
>>724742902No, I won't give you a reason. Go ahead, share the bed with her.
I genuinely don't know what I'm doing in this game, I mean I'm progressing but I'm kind of just wandering into scenarios. I guess that's the point but it's throwing me off.
How do you recruit Spider?
>>724742804It's a pretty good sword. Strong and has good skills.
>>724724875The new endings kinda imply that the Visitor can be manipulated into turning you into whatever you want as long as you delude it and yourself into believing it hard enough, to which point I'm led to ask could the exalted 4 have become more? is it possible to achieve godhood and omnipotence through the visitor in order to somehow de-transform everyone and bring all the dead back to life? Just how far can this be taken to?
>>724744482Antoine turned into his anime figure. If you think really hard while looking outside, you will transform into your favorite character.
>>724742805Who the fuck is Charan?
>>724744482>>724744637the furry and the clown also turned into what the wanted just by wanting it but i'm not sure any of the others mutated on purposemaybe leigh did, and that's why she can still control herself?
>>724726394That ending is basically Sam is a schizo because of all the bizarre non-existent places he goes to in order to obtain that shit like inside the video game that doesn’t work in insane verison of his apartment, or on a room on the fourth floor of a three floor apartment building.
>>724742902She's a stalker
Why is Sam so eager to hug grotesque creatures?
>>724742902made of bones and goop. no good for hugs.
>>724742319I am pretty sure he is harder to obtain. I don’t even know if he shows up before Day 9. I spent forever reloading and only around Day 9 or later did he start popping up.
>>724744364I traded for the sword and it does seem pretty busted yeah. Especially the unsheathe attack/Iaijutsu
>>724745934Because he has tasteI'm so fucking glad Jeanne is huggable now even if there's no picture of it
What is the "massacred" death achievement for? I figured it you got it after being killed by Hellen after neglecting her plant, but that's not the case
>>724746193I think its the JRPG ending if you die.
>>724744960giant ass worm man in the hole below the parking garageyou basically have to bumrush down there and hope the earthquake doesn't happen, that's him deciding to leave
>>724745959I'm sure you can get used to the feeling of lying in a pile of bones and gore
anyone gotten the spider companion yet, it looks similar to shadows so maybe they are connected
>>724746726Man looks like a lot has been added since I last played
>>724745979for real? that's a load of junk man....
>>724740474I got a lot of money from letting APC spew out soldiers before I killed it
is anybody else having an issue where the game straight up won't launch from steam? the play button turns into a running button but then switches back to play. I got it to work once by running the game.exe in admin mode but the sound wasn't working and now the shit wont turn start
>>724749772I play it on steam deck and the only issue I have is at least once a session, the audio will crackle hard. I can fix it using luxtorpedia and selecting (I believe its called) NW.js but unfortunately it causes the meat world to bounce the framerate constantly and I can’t figure out how to cap the framerate when using that.
>>724749772I had the exact same issue except it crashed steam and I couldn't relaunch steam at all. I restarted my pc and it seemed fixed.Also some achievements seem bugged too like the game completion ones like not showering/eating/sleeping after beating the game (they show up on the game completion screen but no steam achievements).
>>724749252I managed to get enough my scavenging around, killing easy enemies I left about, and unlocking a few safes with the lockpicks I bought.Defeated a few nasty bosses too, like War Mole, the Taxidermy wire guy, and the shade that guards a certain item in the warzone
>>724744330No one knows, probably something to do with high danger and the big shades.
>>724751606I wonder if you can instakill her by baiting her into the sapper charge
so how do you kill Mutt? there's an achievement for it so it's somehow possible but he doesn't have an (attack) option
>>724752685stick a knife up his ass from the backdoor after repairing the elevator
>>724751669Spine is surprisingly lucid once you beat her head in once. It's like you did a hard reset on her. Sure she still wants to body horror you and touches you while you sleep, but she's pretty chill about it when you talk to her each day.
>>724753880I meant before she's killed or spared and just has regular enemy behavior.
>>724744330Some dataminer posted it on their shitcord and got deleted instantly because they're autistic about finding secret in "organic" way.
>>724752780ah, I'm used to that being locked in the old versions of the game
>>724754075Well... did you save it?
>>724754218Like i said, they pretty much instantly deleted it but i remember it has something to do with max danger level.
>>724754218Yeah, you get max danger and defeat all the large shades since they're unique to each floor. You then go to a secret area in the garage and get ganked by a bigger boss shade. If you die to this one it brings you to the shadow realm where you can recruit him and escape.
>>724754464So, Spider guy is pretty much the final companion yes? Kind,Melted,Wretched are confirmed cut contents?
>>724753880Imagine giving Audrey the training belt and having her body slam you in bed
>>724754661Yes, Stuart got repurposed as a mechanic while Kind and Melted are MIA.
kind of feel like I ruined the game for myself by doing a cursed run as my first one since launch. I can't really enjoy a lot of the content because I'm trying to be as optimal as I can with half remembered knowledge. I wanted to use Audrey more but she was just too weak when I got her and I wanted to do Taxidermy, blue room and landlord's room ASAP but her crush damage was basically shit for all of those sections. I'll probably do a hard run after this one so I can use party members other than Ernst, Leigh and Lyle.
>>724754759So, any other secrets left beside Spider? I'm too lazy to look at hundreds of JSON files, and i don't have RPGmaker installed.
>>724754856Audrey is one of those characters that become ridiculously strong the longer you keep her with you after defeating each boss. She is not MegaMan, but she takes a piece of every Boss the team beats that boost her stats considerably
>>724754661I wish the thing that pursues Melt stayed in the game, at least
>>724744960>>724746726He's also one of the elongated monsters draped across the roof of the building.
>>724755191LOL Oh No...
>>724755228oh neat I didn't even put that together
So did the cut Neighborly and Friendship endings became Promise and True Canon endings?
>>724755228I feel like the dev was going to do more with Charan, like there was going to be another event going on outside that he was going to inform you about. like something coming from the outside into the building.
>>724755228Can't believe Frankie had to rename this guy. Long Robert was a way better name than Charan.
Assuming you somehow managed to avoid getting exposed immediately and had no idea the phenomenon would end after 15 days, would you try to hold out for as long as possible or just say fuck it and roll the dice by going outside on your own terms?
>>724754075Shouldn't make the game in fucking RPG Maker of all engines if they're seething about datamining lol
whoops
>>724755770Well it started as short submission for a game jam. Dev's done dozens of those. How were they supposed to know it would get popular out of nowhere.
Is the tooth family apartment supposed to transform like that?
>>724755714While I like the name Charan, his excuse for doing so is silly, considering he has two enemies named Observer
is there a difference in the pierre battle between attacking and defending?
>>724755979the baby never died. it's teething on the supports of the apartment and spreading its infection upwards.
>>724756137Oh boy
>>724755756Probably try to hold out for a while since I live together with my father. We'd probably end up relying on the radio once the internet and other comms die if they do. My father likely wouldn't reach 2 weeks plus a day if there was no E.T.A due to being both overtly social and stubborn. I probably wouldn't last 15 days either if the power dies since faint boredom would make me eventually just peek outside anyway.Though more realistically, another tenant would probably end up killing me anyway.
I can still see it, at the bottom of the screen
I'm on my first play through and thus far it's been a bit of a struggle. I haven't gotten any companions yet except for PapineauI've only had two merchants and the injured guy show up, I'm at the start of day 3 (which I've died on plenty of times or did something retarded and restarted)I just need one more companion to deal more damage, I've been relying on molotovs and fire bombs to deal with more difficult fights. But the tentacles and the bus brigade have shown me that I won't be able to brute force my way through the game for much longer
>>724756951Did you spare or kill the rat baby? It eventually grows up into a party member if you spare itAlso, if the bus crash was on day 2, the hobo from floor 1 can still be recruited, though I'm not sure how well-equipped you are to fight through Rat Hell, I've never tried to do it with a duo
>>724756951>>724757127Two other noteworthy party members:>You can get Lyle to fight with you if you kiss him again>If you brute-force your way down to the basement and meet the fourth astronomer then Aster (the guy on floor 2) can join youAlso, you likely skipped recruiting Leigh, you can live without her but just letting you know you could've gotten a party member by defeating the big thing that chases you on floor 2
>>724754856I used Audrey for Taxidermy on Cursed but Joel kinda carried me through that fightBring some explosives and have her throw them to get rid of the 4 heads at the start, and give her the medic bag so she's got something to do after that
True Form Sybil is really a bitch of a fight, recommendations?
>>724757783You used to be able to instakill her with Lyle's soul taker but I think that got fixed. You need to punch her uterus among others.
>>724757783Kill the organs first. Explore the whole dungeon first finding the organs (so time wont pass when exploring the dungeon from then on) then kill them.
>>724757127>Did you spare or kill the rat baby?Killed itI will try to get the hobo, I'm at a point where I'd steal a kid and give them a bat just for that extra damage>>724757486I didn't kiss him so I don't know if I'd be able to recruit him nowBrute forcing my way to the basement is probably what I will have to do at this pointI tried fighting that hallway monster and I just couldn't kill it before it would finish me off, I tried with the pool cue and a molotov but I didn't have enough HP to pull it off
>>724758110Alright, another two things I forgot to mention:>You can recruit the kid brushing his teeth if you throw his teddy bear at him, though I'm assuming he's already dead on your file>You can get a new party member if you let a cockroach infestation fester, leave food out for 12 hours to spawn more cockroaches (after they're already in your room)
>>724758374Also when you go back down to where the hobo was, don't kill his rat, instead just guard and follow it outsideDo be warned, Rat Hell is quite a difficult gauntlet so it may be a lost cause (the hobo's rat does help you though)
>>724758374I gave him the bear and left him alone after that, I'll go back and see if he's recruitableI might try the cockroaches, but thus far I've squished each one that I've found in my bag
Leigh fucking died and I have no idea how to res party members.
>>724758659What? No it doesn't. That's how you're supposed to get in there.
>>724758661Smelling salts that you buy. I think maybe you can craft them too, but I don't know how.
>>724758661>>724758730Medkits and Stimulants tooAnd the surture kit off Taxidermy but it's such an underwhelming item you might as well not fight him, the reward is not worth the effort
>>724758661First aid kids, but White Fred can also revive/heal party members once a day as well as the crow granny in the basement.
>>724758804Man I should really read the item info I guess, thanks.
>>724758727deleted because I forgot to add spoiler tagsWhich door in Apartment 12 leads to Meatworld? The only one I could surmise was the one locked from the other side. I accidentally found Sybil while wandering through the Iris Key door behind Lethargy, now she seems impossible to find.
>>724758541Would it be viable to just spend the whole day playing video games in the apartment rolling for a party member to knock on the door?Or would it be a massive waste of time that I could spend on bashing my head against the wall to potentially progress the game?
>>724758804>cursed Taxidermy>5 random bullshit a turn for this motherfuckerAgreed, 100%
>>724758948>>724758727Should clarify that I accidentally found her on my first 2.0 playthrough
>>724758948>I accidentally found Sybil while wandering through the Iris Key door behind Lethargy, now she seems impossible to find.This was a bug and never the intended route. You are in the right place, listen to the sounds and search diligently for more.
>>724758661On top of what the others said they'll also be revived for free each morning after you sleepYou'll still need to heal them
>>724758962That could work, but considering your luck with door encounters I doubt you wanna deal with thatPlaying video games doe give Sam some new skills though, if you wanna upgrade him in particular you're gonna wanna play them
>>724745934He's desperate for human touch.
>>724758967>Defeat bullshit hard boss relative to its placement (you can enter as early as day 4 for some reason)>Your reward is effectively 10 smelling salts with how little health it revives withNot to mention how apparently it was originally 8 uses, though the wiki says its supposed to be 14 as of the most recent patch (mine gave me 10)
>>724758993I'm trying to get the Unity ending, not Promise
>>724758804>>724758967>>724759267Personally I thought taxidermy's reward was quite good6 free mini-medkits is great when you're burning through them like cigarettes
>>724759496Unity and Promise are the same path, just listen to what Sybil says you need to do to learn more.
>>724759518The fact that it's weaker is what drives me away honestly, Taxidermy is a difficult fightJust sell shit to Mutt and buy medical supplies off Eugene it's way easier and gives you more bang for your buck
I'm so glad Eugene can fix Fuzzy, the man is a saint. Kind of glad there's a way in game to realize he's a nice guy who's good with kids without murdering him. His sprite is still so goofy though.
Battle background is fucked
Is there anything new with Rafta if you don't do her side-quest and leave her alone in the drain pipe? I kind of wish she got a boss fight and/or some other more solid resolution that doesn't involve getting 3 people killed.
>>724760861Finding a device that either blows her out the pipe to the otherside or straight up cleans her out Drain-O style would be nice
>>724760427That whole zone is clearly an untested beta. The performance in that dungeon is bizarre on the steam deck, especially if I try to run it without proton using a native linux fix. Thats not even getting into how it shipped with a glitch that made so you could access Sybil’s boss room and even her Apartment 12 room without the necessary required steps.
Unity has to be my new favorite ending, holy fuck.
>>724762101Cinnamon endings maybe still be the worst, but The Unity ending is definitely more scary and dreadful especially when you learn the Human skin can merge and fuse with any object if left pressed for extremely long periods of time.
>>724762991Man, How does Hellen have all the motherly characteristics, all while being cold and deadly with it?
Do Denial and Truth have different scores? Trying to get an X rank.>>724762991He's a pushover, but I love him and his skills.
>>724758962Yes, in fact that is the best way IMO to do cursed difficulty. Theres basically 100% guaranteed way to get 4 party members with only 2 mandatory encounters of which both are guaranteed successes within the strat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYM3AjGxqs
>>724744482The Shade ending has Sam experience infinite sensory feedback and literally generate a new universe in his mind that he becomes God over. The Visitor can theoretically let you become a universe-shaping god if you can convince it hard enough that this is what you're meant to be.
All these new endings and the best is still Denial and it's not even close.
>>724765592>newAll of this was planned from the beginning and only not available at release due to time crunches
>>724765592Yeah, the reveals with Sybil's circumstance are fine, EXCEPT for how stupid the actual truth is, what a lame way to take the wind out of the best ending/Denial ending. It's actually incredibly stupid that the dev would choose to expose the actual logic behind the Visitor like that, in such a stupid way.
I found the way to recruit Spider! Yeah, you need to kill 5 big danger shadows that are unique to each floor. After that, visit B1 staircase at max danger without any party members. There is a hidden door (see pic). At the end of some dark maze-like corridors you`ll finally find him as a boss. Try to be miserable in pre-fight dialogue and survive. Good luck!
>>7247659015 on each floor? DamnWhat the hell is Spider's deal exactly? What is he
>>724766121No, 5 in total. He`s a mystery nigga
>>724765901Shouldn't be too hard to force max danger solo Sam just by chugging two of the Black Oozes (which drop from the big shadows anyway), so you can still get a save prior to visiting the Spider's room.
landlord's apartment in 1.0 was kinda barren, was anything new add anything new to it?
>use iris key on t.v.>there isn't another one inside that zoneuh...
Feeling good, I reseted cursed mode a bunch of times. I think the best strat is to just focus on exploring everything on the first days and leave most enemies intact until you have a full party. Xaria & mont can suck my ass.I'm using ernest, audrey and lyle. Sam+ernest using AOE make everything a lot easier. I was able to beat taxidermy in my first attempt, I'm going to try the tank now. I mostly use skills and reover fp with food.Grinding the soldiers in the landlords apartment for grenades is one of the BEST things you can do.
>>724756951>First playthrough>Day 3>Knew about day 1 PapineauI'm having some doubts that you knew about getting him on day one naturally. Did you use a guide for that? If so, just use a guide for getting other party members too.
>>724754719I think the only possible position for her would just be missionary.
>>724765901It was a joy to datamine. All the RPGM entries regarding him were obfuscated by dev quite well. The craziest part is that almost all of this content was in game files since 1.05
>>724765673I'm pretty disappointed with the new story additions mainly with Sybil that I feel it retroactively hurts the overall story and mystery thereof that was presented on release. It's such a contrived idea that only works with suspension of disbelief. Really gives credence to the idea that less is more.But in a positive light the Mazes and Wizards game with Lyle was very good. Had Ernest, Leigh, and Joel and it was a good time especially with Ernest being an expert roleplayer.
>>724766980There were references to the new dungeon, fighting sybil and her organs?Was the Promise ending original designated as “Neighborly” and was the Massacre Princess ending originally called “Friendship”?
What party members can be rushed? I'm about to finish a playthrough and I'm thinking of rushing to some party members but I'm not sure who's on the table.Is early Cockroach, Audrey, Philippe possible? What's the earliest day rat child can be grown? I don't know anything about Aster but are they any good? Getting to the basement ASAP without losing a bunch of XP seems like spamming run a lot especially in the landlord's apartment.
>>724767248>Leigh>Joel>Papineau if you're really hardcoreI think that's about the long and short of it
>>724767170No, unfortunately. The only sneak peeks of potential content that i could find were Wilma`s tomb and Apt 38. Both were pretty barren at that stage. Or are we talking about 2.0? In that case, all loose ends are tied up - there are no big 'beta' files/ dev comments in the code
Is there a way to get both the Katana and the full Reddit Swordsman look from the Gamer?
>>724766689The best strat is to explore everywhere fight absolutely nothing. Save the key from wounded man's apartment for the the safe in joel room which has a rifle. Spam vidya until you get a +1 person then kill wounded guy -> go to stairwell pickup pool cue, 2x impale for leigh, pass the next day, pickup 4toothpaste from the shop and 3from the room next door and then power farm Joel up.
>>724767824kill the Gun Trader for his trench coat and get the trilby from Antoine's place
What I don't get is how xaria and Monty are allowed to exist. Xaria is the best character in the game with 2x turn and Monty is like a solid A. I feel like mosh pit should have been binned or attached exhaustion to it
>>724767890Will do the next time Gun guy rolls around.
>>724767923Three-time hitting acid projectile is excellent though
>>724765592>>724765673I like Promise well enough, but I really feel like it could be merged into Denial with no problems. Unironically, the best additions are more character details and getting to bring back Phillippe.
>>724767248Cockroaches should be somewhat rushable if you combine it with leaving food out but I'd really only estimate 3-4 days for that if you go out of your way for the roach spots & know exactly where to get them. Audrey seems pretty easy but she needs access to Mutt's place, which locks Papineau if you don't have the Cleanerox from the store. Joel + Papi need you to buy their matching resource to actually recruit them, that's not hard. Leigh's easy and a good party member especially if you grab her phone ASAP for her questline. Philippe is a bit tricky but you can technically avoid every single enemy in the Sewers + most of the enemies in the Mushroom dungeon, but you'd still have to beat the final boss of the dungeon to get him. He needs only three days if you feed him 2/3 times too. Aster doesn't seem worth it but I don't know his recruitment recommendations, but his tradeoffs are too large to be worth it. Apparently the dev is planning to make recruiting him easier.
>>724765901... do you have to kill the 5 shadows without any party members?Is that even possible?
>>724768173Yes it is what part of my post said it wasnt good?
>>724767923Their tradeoff is being massive jackasses, though the dev walked back Xaria kicking the rat baby a bit.
One more question about the Katana, is it not having any effect on you when re-sheathing supposed to be a joke with the Gamer saying it will kill you if you re-sheath it without drawing blood?
I never cared for Denial.
>>724768509I wouldn't say walk back, but more so got Rat Baby to make her apologize using empathy
>>724767248>>724768272Oh, and Ernest is rushable as well - he's worth it but Rat Hell's pretty brutal on cursed even with a decently levelled party. The DAY you hit ground floor, make sure to start levelling everyone/gearing up for it because you need to save Ernest the moment you visit his base the day after hitting ground floor. Never fight the rat champion guy in part 3, Behemoth to the left is infinitely easier. I honestly don't know if its possible to beat rat champion with anyone besides early/stalled Roaches, though I guess you could get lucky with Cattleprod/Stun baton? The hardest rat hell fights are the first ones anyway because the groupfights really strain your earlygame resources, but the lantern/acid rat does way too much damage for that phase of the game anyway.
>>724768272>Philippe is a bit tricky but you can technically avoid every single enemy in the Sewers + most of the enemies in the Mushroom dungeon, but you'd still have to beat the final boss of the dungeon to get himI just had a run where I recruited him without beating the boss. Got him into party, rescued 2 people then walked back to entrance which triggered a fight with him and the ones I rescued. After beating them I got his remains. It's probably possible to fight him alone if you try to leave right away after recruiting him but beating him early & nearly solo might be nigh impossible.
Is this one of those games with lots of cryptic shit and triggers that i will never find out about if i don't look them up on the internet? And also there is some sort of timers? It sounds uncomfy as fuck, a shame because the art looks interesting
>>724768726Xaria and Monty is broken and just wins if you don't go into it with no mp or hp.
>>724768902Nah, there's thankfully not that much ARG bullshit, its a very selfcontained game. There are 'timers' in the sense that there's some content that gets locked if you dawdle too much, and the game does have a time system, but it's decently generous/you can bumrush the game in under 3 days out of the 15 you're given if you know what you're doing. That being said, you're even encouraged to be a NEET and play vidya in your apartment for benefits too>>724768968Good to know, though no guarantees on getting Hellen/Sophie/Xaria/Dan since they're tied to door RNG, my previous run I had to live with the guaranteed ones only.
>>724768875actually im not so sure. I got his remains into the apartment but it might be possible they don't grow until you beat the boss. I put his remains there and went to go beat the boss
>>724768272Aster’s primary use is commentary, but even that peters out. He doesn’t comment on going into Apt 35 and meeting Sybil, for example, or react to her notes
>>724769038Aster never met Sybil THOUGH
>>724769017I noticed that 'I killed the Mushroom Princess' is a separate dialogue option in his healed self version, so I'm assuming you can actually resurrect him BEFORE beating the boss with the method of fighting him early. >>724769038Most of the meat dimension stuff seems really unfinished or half-baked in general, I couldn't even find half of the organs I had to kill in there. I was getting dummy dialogue in the DnD campaign as well, makes me wonder if he'd get more dialogue later to account for these oddities.
>>724769038Aster would have no idea who she is, to be fair.
>>724769078Did he meet Edwin, because he comments like crazy in his apartment. My understanding is that Edwin flipped out even earlier.
>>724768968this is exactly how i got through rat hell on cursed. wasn't in the game on my first run so I didn't know what to expect but XM + leigh got through all that shit. acid is just the best damage type in the game, mosh pit is the best skill in the game.
>nearly all the new achievements are .01% players because barely anyone's played the new updatehopefully this changes
>>724768509I kinda think thats a retarded reason to justify why they are broken and not it's just a massive oversight. Obviously the dev thought catatonic for Monty was a deal breaker so xaria is juiced, but you can just not use the Monty abilities in longer encounters which are also boss encounters. It would be totally acceptable if xariah was broken if it had a fucked recruitment but you literally just can get them on day 1
>>724726394this and sybil being some retarded ugly neet woman/organ monster instead of a hot lizard woman was really gay.
>>724769262There's a lotta busted shit in current patch in general, like using the HP doubler accessory on Roaches to make him into a nuke, or giving Dan the antiblind gear so he can spam the shit out of his triple attack. In prior patches everyone was gushing over Hellen's absurd DPS. Lyle had to specifically get nerfed because Soul Capture would literally instakill bosses. Honestly, at this point it feels more like it's Papineau and Joel who are the main weak cases. Even Leigh's solid DPS because her mechanics let her exploit high base attack weapons.So in general the party members can be pretty busted.Though it is funny because Xaria used to be the most OP party member in the demo version as well because her earliest iteration came with a full assault rifle that she could unload into enemies, and if she got a kill within those 8 shots she'd get the ammo refunded for free.
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>>724769271Sybil is cute as a slobby neet.I don’t know why you thought she was a lizard. I always assumed that she was the building based on some dialogue about “how could something happen in some obscure part of the building, I didn’t feel that…” and the fact that they always told you she melted and he apartment is another other floor. My other theory was that you were just talking to some sort of consciousness of the visitor reaching out.
>>724769438Actually, how DID she even end up in 35 anyway? Did she just choose to relocate to make her amnesia more solid, since there wouldn't be reminders of her prior life?
>>724769378>Lyle had to specifically get nerfed because Soul Capture would literally instakill bosses.Reminds me that in SMT1 and 2 the ziodyne spells were so overpowered you could actually stun lock YHVH.
>>724724875It's depressing how every update made the game worse, from the fucking terrible outsourced and ill fitting new boss music to the shitty new endings that overexplain the setting.
>>724767923xaria can't really afford the STM to use mosh pit much. yeah it autowins fights but it isn't great if you're just exploring an area and fighting trash. When I was using monty he ended up increasing the damage the party took every encounter just because he was an empty slot a lot spending turns brewing. During fights where the brew was required he once again spent half the time passing turns after doing one of his good attacks. They're solid but I ended up shelving them for ernst & lyle.I don't think it's possible to have party members for exploration & boss battles because the game heavily discourages swapping party members. I just finished a run and barely got my main party to level 20. Maybe I could get multiple ones to 20 if I explored the meat dimension but I didn't bother to.
>>724769519I thought the new music was really fitting with the original sound.https://youtu.be/ZWWUmpvzKFohttps://youtu.be/itCxco73XzI
never killed a door vendor before. do they drop all their shit?
>>724769438it looked like she had scales around her eyes
Is Hellen a "girlboss" done right?
>>724769750Only some, and a fraction of it. It apparently doesn't even remove them from the encounter pool unless it was a bug. Which sucks because I hate the damn food trader every time. They do have unique drops and killing the Gun Trader is pretty good apparently.
1 launch playthrough and 1 cursed playthrough. I still have only ever seen XM and Sophie as door encounters. At this point I'm convinced other door party members don't exist.
>>724769836>Stoic, but has her own morals she follows>Doesn't take shit from anyone>Shows appreciation when you help her in her quest>Is nice to the younger party members like rat thing and Joel>Hides her face out of consideration for others>Still has a beautiful heart despite her ugly exteriorYeah I'd say so.
>>724769378Yeah but giving haste to 3 people with basically the softest of downsides is like peak "you have no clue how to balance a turn based RPG". I would have put an exhaustion effect effect of some description at the very least.
>>724769634If your exploring an area and fighting trash you can belch fire on Monty which autowins easy encounters circumventing her weakness. Her gun is actually also pretty strong, she ssfs her own ammo and it can't break. Basically the "downsides" are non-existent, also stm is abit of a joke since coffee machine exists
>>724770002What I want to know is can you get a cursed encounter on the first 2 days when you have no party members? Can you even win a lvl 1 cursed door encounter?
>>724770130>you can belch fire on Monty which autowins easy encountersthere's a bunch of little shits in painters studio you aren't going to blow brews on them since you're better off using them on the freds. you'll probably have pass turns brewing effectively giving you -1 party member so you're prepared to demolish freds. For an area that's filled with trash like landlord's you just need tons of brews or he's just going to use weapons.landlord's in particular sucks for them not just due to the trash but the resistance to xaria's gun.>stm is abit of a joke since coffee machine existsI didn't coffee until like day 10 or some shit. I don't know if mutt's wares are randomized or it just takes a few days for him to stock up after encountering but STM was a problem for most of the game for me.
this isn't a particularly fun rpg to suss out (intentionally obtuse things rarely are enjoyable so no surpsrise) and "omg it like affects us, but mysteriously!" is a really tired trope. but at least you guys are flavoring of the monthing this instead of ARC i guess?
>>724770558what's so obtuse? explore an apartment fighting mutated creatures, which you yourself become if you look outdoors
>>724770558>intentionally obtuse thingsWhat the heck are you talking about?>flavoring of the monthIt came out in March and has had threads for it almost every day.
>>724770558It's very fun and I'm sorry you don't like it, but it happens. This is exactly the kind of RPG maker games I want more of, and it's exciting it got an update crammed with this much new content.
>>724770764>>724770790it strictly sequences events unless you suss out it's internal logic and get this to do that but don't go here yet etc etc. obtuse.and no it didn't it got threads when it launched, no one talked about it, it updated and now it's hype again. it's the current flavor for spookgamers.
I feel like my first playthrough is gonna have a dogshit ending since I still haven't really progressed past Frederic's apartment and am on Day 5. I keep exploring side apartments and I only just got Hellen, maybe things will pick up now that I have two permanent party members.
>>724770558The fuck do you care? You an investor for ARC?
>>724770790the blackout, home events, and keys are retarded. you shouldn't have to rely on RNG to get companions/events
>>724770948As long as you grab depictions of the visitor while progressing you can get the cool endings right up to day 15. Just don't sleep too much.
>>724770951i know i was speaking conversationally but did you really not catch that i was kvetching about ARC too? i guess that's on me, i keep forgetting literacy rates are plummeting world wide.
>>724771053It came off as a backhanded advertisement for an unrelated game.
>>724771119that's because you're a spergbrained retard illiterate.
>>724770993I mean can I stay up past when the game tells me I should go to bed? I usually don't go back and sleep until it prompts me and the time is usually ~22:00.
When/how are visitors rolled? Are they rolled for the day at the start of it or whenever there's a possible time for a visitor?
>>724770948You can explore everything and it still won't be day 15 yet, you have to manually move it into that via wasting time yourself, don't worry about it.
>>724771148No, I understand marketing and advertising. Your little ad hominem attacks dont help your case trying to defend your self.
>>724770478There's a new special item every day. Stm wasn't an issue for me even without coffee however, did you not cook max like a true misogynist?
>>724771170Install the mod that lets you view the calendar schedule.Door visitors are rolled at 4AM so you have to save before that and go to sleep (or wait it out until 4AM)
>>724771236i really don't know how to make it more clear that i am sick of all flavor of the month bullshit. i've been using sage this whole time. you're actually retarded.
>>724771178I see
>>724771290>more ad hominemReally sounds like you’re upset you got called out. If you really were sick of it, you’d just leave, you wouldn’t need to get all defensive and lash out.
>>724745979He showed up on Day 2 on Cursed but he already turned hostile.Normally it's a 3% added per day that a door encounter becomes hostile but I think Cursed doubles the rate. Dan was hostile on day 4 and Xaria/Monty showed up on day 7 also hostile. Cursed does not want to give you party members for free.
>>724771450I think you're just unlucky, I got Hellen, Monty, and Xaria fairly hassle free in my cursed run.
First cursed Run, I had hostile Dan on day 2Second one, hostile Morton on day 3.
>>724770895do you have an example cuz idk what you are talking about
There's something really satisfying about having the Katana sheathed before a boss fight and hitting them with the Iaijutsu for like 200 damage.
>>724770948people say you have plenty of time but if you 100% explore, along with playing like 6 video games, and doing fun time wasting activities like checking the news/social media for lore or playing DnD with your party you'll end up with 1 day left like me. and that was with reaching max danger every day and trying to be efficient
>>724741721They HATED him because he told the truth.
>>724770895Is this the fungerfag here to shit up another thread? Why do you feel the need to be so annoying just because people like a game you don't?
>>724771578Probably. Hellen was my second door encounter on day 3 and I don't think she becomes Hostile.I'm about halfway through the basement on Cursed and I think I might be fucked cause I'm out of weapons. Everything breaks at twice the rate. I'm tempted to kill Eugine to steal all his stuff but knowing cursed mode they probably made him invincible or he self destructs his store and products.
>>724771769She actually can now, but not like everyone else. If you start her quest and don't continue it each day, she gets pissed and leaves, beginning to stalk and attack you.
>me after learning the ultimate technique from my favorite vidya which will allow me to kill the eldrich abomination currently passing by our planet
Has anyone else run into a glitch where you don't consistently attack the targeted enemy? For instance if I have all of my party attack an enemy on the left, they will all attack the enemy on the right insteadI wasn't having this problem for the first few hours of my playthrough but now it's happening consistently
Best boy Juicebox should be a party member.
>>724730457>sam plapping all his party-wives with many tendrilsThere might be an orphanage in uzbekistan that needs building but it can wait for his break
>>724771271>Install the mod that lets you view the calendar scheduledoes this work in the most recent version?
>>724773827It works, but many times you'll get surprise visits that calendar doesn't show you, i don't know if it's because of the game system itself or the plugin is just simply outdated.
>Sam with Scream and Roaches with Thunderoach>Audrey spitting out ice cans>Hellen using a spear to spear fishThe water apartment stood no chance
Nearly bricked my Cursed file because it turns out the location of the Fredrick's painting of the visitor is randomized. You can do trial and error or defeat face taker and talk to real Fred and he tells you the new location of the painting.I still think the tutorial enemy is the hardest enemy so far on cursed. I think since most of the doors are open on day 1 it's more of a early game boss than a tutorial fight. IF you use the key on vincent's apartment you can get some weapons and armor that makes the neighbor fight much easier.The basement gets MUCH harder but Lyle and Audrey are very strong, and the buffs to Leigh's grinning beast form makes her one of the best boss slayers. You rely much less on weapons and more on abilities.
>>724774681Yeah it's kind of interesting how impossible it feels at the very start, but the difficulty kinda evens out or even tips over into pretty easy towards the end because some party members are just absurdly cracked now. I just killed the furnace on hard before he could even phase change once because thunder roach spam is just that strong.
>>724745934its his way of trying to take one other people's pain
you know it's kind of bullshit that helen's "slash/pierce only" skills don't work with the whip from kaeley's place, which is a slash weapon.at least constriction is a great debuff
>>724775105She wouldn't be taken seriously at the yearly "buff slasher villain" meeting if she ever touched a whip.
>joel spamming teethstorm with 520 HP>audrey spamming combat medic on him>he always goes first, dumping 200+ damage on all targets>she always goes last, healing all the health it costsLet me guess, you need more
>>724774681Lyle is good? I tried using him and he felt kind of mediocre, but maybe that was just an effect of him being level scaling and starting at like level 6.
And there's my first cursed clear. Locked myself out of all the new endings but that's okay, because there's specifically one for clearing perfect ritual on cursed. All in all, awesome update. Hope they keep polishing some of the stuff that seems a little half baked, like that guy who got bit by the bug one floor 3 not doing anything.
>>724775775That's chump change, kid. Try spamming puffball burst with Phillippe after sporing and inflicting every status in the game on a boss with Putrefaction.
>>724775775Jesus, Joel actually gets good later on? At this point Papineau went from giga carry to lategame brick because his only skill of note is a once-a-day SP/HP heal. >>724775869Lyle's insanely good if he's even remotely on level curve. His first skill does 180damage alone and more on crushing-weak enemies. His Soul Capture is a permanent unremovable debuff on bosses and a massive self heal the first time you use it, his Photo fluid is one of the few plentiful sources of acid damage in the game, and he's one of the only characters who has a readily-available Paralyze skill.
>>724776282That's nice but I'm still not using that traitorous dogstarving mongrelbred piece of bug shit>>724776350Joel's a fucking beast (against anything that's not resistant to pierce, anyway) if you pump his HP since he has two skills that scale off max HPWith a few lucky candies from the ground floor machine and the patchwork set it's easily possible to clear 600 HP with him. He absolutely shreds Exalted Four and its helper minions, keeps them permastunned and even kills them a few turns into the fight as long as you keep him healed
>>724776350>Joel actually gets good later on?Joel was shit on release, then god tier in 1.5, then nerfed in 1.6 or 1.7 but still strongHe's a late game scaler, you need to let him chomp on enemies to gain max hp.
>>724776350I mostly used Lyle to spam Lyle kicks once he learned that. Pretty damn good damage for only 10 stamina cost. Kind of fell off late game and he was relegated mostly to support, but what can you do when absolute units like Sam is spamming octocut with the hellsword, Phillippe is spamming statuses and 500+ damage to all enemies with puffball burst, and Roaches is 2x spamming thunderroach after roaching up the boss.
>>724776431Phillippe did nothing wrong, it was the spores in his head from that nasty spore queen that made him do all of that. Good thing Sam saved his best friend from that manipulative whore.
>>724776431>>724776439God, I love the current meta. I do take a bit of umbrage towards how the endgame isn't all that hard even against the superbosses, but I love that most of the characters have strong niches now, or little effects like Dan getting streaming money every day. Papi is probably the worst endgame party member since he has nothing but OK stats, but he's more reliable than Joel at lower levels/without as much gear and coming prepackaged with Joyeuse. Anyone use Audrey to good extent? I like that she gets her armors from specific bosses, but I haven't heard much buzz about her moveset.
>>724776489>hellswordHellsword is for HellenFeed your gun arm to the wall like a man and use the sword you forced the crossword witch to become.
>>724730457Unity is fine in itself. People are just retarded and treat Sybil's theories as absolute canon when it's Sam and her (and in turn the visitor through them) perceiving her theories as true making them become true as with every other outcome.
>>724776612I always used Hellen before the update but honestly she seems a lot less appealing now with how crazy some of the other party members are. Stalk + one of her stalk buffed skills just don't hit as hard as it used to.
>>724776612Which of the spell weapons are the best, anyway? By the time you get the damn thing it feels like most enemies have omniresistance against the core physical damage types.
>>724776662I still like her, she's a tank early on. Lategame she's mostly just a cleavebot, but she's still useable even in cursed mode
>>724776684I went with sword. If you are saving it purely for the final boss though, I think spear might be best?
How does this game compared to other RPGs? I finished sky remake and time stranger recently. I tried dq11 and ff12 but neither appealed to me.
>>724776715I went with sword too but I 'cheated' mine through playing the crosswords, recording the password then reloading. The description for the spells implies its stronger if you have a better vocabulary but I wonder if that actually scales based on your crossword completion. Mine did shit for damage so that would explain it.
>>724776752If you're a DQ fan I think you'll like this. The combat system is pretty traditional but there are an absurd number of unique skills and stuff to mess around with.
>>724776752Well, its an RPGmaker game with all the negative connotations that has. I really like it though. Probably my current goty, but its been a shitty year.
>>724776761Oh shit, that works with the crossword puzzle? I'll have to do that next run.
>>724776752It's a 'resource autism' RPG like Lisa the Pointless. (the fangame)The gist is that it rewards you for being able to scrimp on resources/maximize the opportunities given to you. Party members are fun, unique monster designs, and a gameplay style that isn't grindy. >>724776827The password's generated per-savefile but there's no penalties for cheating it that way besides maybe weakening the spell.
>>724776761They really need to make Auntie Wilma’s game cart spawn earlier. It always shows up too late to actually help, which is really a shame because it has some of the funniest group responses like Hellen threatening you, Dan being a fucking retard and them stealing a gag from ATHF.
>>724776879Mutt item RNG and party member door encounter RNG are some of the worse aspects of the game but I know it's supposed to make your runs feel more varied. I just wish you could nudge it a bit more, like you're 'guaranteed' a party member eventually from the door pool or a way to prompt an encounter faster than doing nothing in your apartment.
>>724777014I agree, In my opinion there should be a companion a day every day until it cycles through all of them. Then they could still show up, but its more likely to be their cursed variant. Except Morton. Morton is too weird to recruit and needs to be a static NPC some where.
>>724777117Honestly, even something as stupid as being able to hang a sign on your door that says something to attract traders or guests (and monsters) with a higher frequency would be a nice QOL.
>>724777165So we need a mod with the ability to hang a retarded sign that says “frens” on it to encourage party member events
>>724777297Frens!
>>724777329At least its not fucking William for the 18th fucking time.
>>724765901Fuck me, i`ve got one thing wrong. The door you are looking for is UNDER the staircase. Other than that, there is only one attempt to open it. Shit`s infuriating, to say the least
The basement sure has some surprises in cursed mode.
>>724778775I'm still very upset that the absolute kino Angel bat, when it breaks, doesn't actually break into a weaker version, it outright loses its demonic possession and becomes a vanilla metal bat.
>>724773827You don't even need the mod, just decrypt save file and look at it. Door encounters are determine at beginning of the day.
>tfw found a use for the unlabeled vidya game
>>724779195So what exactly is the deal with that ending? The requirements show that Sam has learned to operate outside of reality and as a result he goes schizo?
>>724776662You give her the coat of arms?
>>724779550Of course, I can't imagine her wearing any other chest piece.
So are some of the achievements just bugged or unfinished right now or what
>>724779607I think the achievements are actually masking the super spoilery new content shit. The only one I got was definitely a major spoiler.
Is there a way to get more Iris Key's? I think I may have wasted the one I got for free by blasting a hole in a wall stupidly
>>724779607Yeah, Frankie's intentionally keeping a few things hidden for the release window. He'll make it all visible after a week or two since he wants people to discover things naturally.
>>724779786The only one I got that it is unfinished is the Sybil boss. All the ending ones and a lot of the new bosses and shit were fine. What are the other unfinished boss achievements?
>>724779763only way to get more keys to my knowledge is to attack Sybil, which you can do only after going through the apartment 12 stuff and getting the telescope because then apartment 35 becomes a permanent meat zone you can explore the rest through. once you do it you're locked out of using her as a save point for the rest of the run though
>>724779923you can see all the achievements through steamdb, I'm assuming they mean these because they're specifically labeled like this
>>724780125Thats what Im talking about. The only test achievement I got was for killing Meat World Sybil.
Anything worthwhile to get?
What is Sybil’s journal? There is an item listed called that in the game files.
>>724770895>and no it didn't it got threads when it launchednigger what the fuck are you talking about. those threads when the game launched were kino.
>>724780205there's also an achievement for 'killing Shockipede' but I haven't found that guy yet wherever he is, I'd assumed he was gonna be someone in the breaker room somewhere during the blackout
>6 days left>have all the offerings prepared, done pretty much everything except the underwater dungeon and giving Sybil the repaired telescope>decide to play space truckers>the mod says I wont have any visitors>after two hours I get a knock at my door>its going to be a cursed encounter>it looks like Xaria and Morty>oh shit limb thief fight time>nope it’s legitimately xariaFuck. Reload time. Not taking that bitch. How has she not been eaten by a monster at this point?
>>724779763>>724780006You don't need to attack her at all. Just use your first iris key on the entry point after hell car and you'll br able tp get all the other ones easily.
>>724781176I had no clue there was a cursed XM encounter, that sounds kino
How many more days do you think we're gonna have Look Outside threads? Seriously considering drawing lewd Kaeley lockpicking but I'm far from a fast artist
>>724781723Yeah, it involves a hideous monster tearing them limb from limb all while they were arguing with each other as it was happening. He has various parts of them hanging out of him like Xaria’s legs and morton’s head.
>>724757783if you are feeling lazy the stomach and lungs are pretty close to her, i managed to beat her on cursed mode by just putting down those two
>>724781865Probably a week-oddBetter hurry
>audrey is a vending machine>her best offense is just using items for the majority of the gamewhat did he mean by this
>>724766736>>Knew about day 1 PapineauI got him on day 2I didn't look at any guides
>>724782756not too different from joel shooting teeth, no? but I think audrey has the most horrifying fate of all your companions. helen really isn't that bad, joel somehow can still see and talk, lyle is a big guy but other than that it's kind of cool and the rest are either not cursed or they were lesser beings that evolved
>>724784628>lyle is a big guyUUUU
>>724782095idk how you managed that without killing the pancreas, random status spam is such a pain in the asswaiting for someone to map out meat world so it's easier to figure out where the fuck I need to go for some of these organs
>>724766736it's pretty simple getting early Papineau though, if someone just blindly went through the game and didn't get many party members from door encounters he's just sitting there on the ground floor
>>724781891According to Mazes & Wizards dialogue, said monster (named Guillaume) was actually friends with Monty before all this happened
>>724781707That's the problem I used the iris key in lyle's apartment
>Fixed the elevator>But haven't gotten ANY offerings yet>5 days left>Want to get the new endings>Decently stocked on good weapons thoOdds are I'm not going to save all of the kids from the bus, mr. teacher.
>>724785031by sheer stubbornes due to the reason you stated, i couldn't be arsed to explore the entire meat meat world since i was on a tight time limit already, went through like 10 elixirs and a similar amount of consumables though
>vincent and his projector room are untouched in cursed modeWhat a wasted opportunity; they made the CCTV recording and correct painting more difficult to obtain in that mode so the same should go for the exposed photograph and guinea pig.
>>724785736You should have enough time but it might be close. Talk to the astronomers about Sybil. I don't actually remember if the 15 day ending actually triggers until you try to leave your apartment, so if you just never go back home you might be able to still do it.
wait is ironman mode new? is there anything new tied to it?
So why did the dev even make the car monsters in the first place if he admits they're stupid as fuck with Sybil not believing Sam?
How far will I make it if my first playthrough is on cursed mode?
>>724786390Just an achievement.You save only twice and it's when you're in bed
so what do I need to do to get the 'Look Inside' achievement
>>724786523You will likely be filtered by the very first enemy
>>724786563what's the name for it? can't find anything related on the global cheevo list using the keywords mode or iron
>>724786412They do look sillier but I don't think they're that different to the cctv guy or even lyle for that matter. Also I think that dialogue with Sybil is a good joke, like Joel's dentition thing when you play auntie's game
>>724786646Cold Shoulder
>find cool weapon for killing boss or doing obscure thing>weapon breaks and can't be repaired with duct tape>made even worse in cursed mode so you have incentive to just not use themfuck durability, worst mechanic
>>724785845I'm pretty sure I'm only a few rooms removed from the CCTV guy. It'll take a night passing for Lyle to develop the photograph though. Getting the painting will only cost a few rooms too. Besides, I hear some mutterings about an alternate ending if you gather different versions of the ritual offerings, like a photograph I found hidden in Henderson's dungeon.>Spoiler Will do. Beryl did talk about something between Jasper and Sybil, and told me to ask Jasper directly.
>>724787018for me the game's worst aspect is companions having a set level when you recruit them, frankie should just patch it so they match whoever in your party has the lowest level or something. They could even explain it lore wise by saying something like "yeah sophie showed up on day 9 so she's been surviving on her own for a while that's why she's level 12"
>>724787018I'd honestly like it more if there was either no durability loss chance or a smaller chance if you hit an enemy's weakness. That way you'd still be encouraged to scavenge and test things out, but not be punished for wanting to simply see the enemy sprites.
https://steamdb.info/app/3373660/stats/I know Oracles' End is true form Sybil but how do you get to Syncope, Whisperblade, Dream Eater, Crimson Scourge, Hundred Maws, Spine Taker, and Shockipede? Or are they not implemented yet?
>>724785098Is he always there if you don't recruit more than one? I always thought he left after the first day.
>>724787356Dream Eater, Crimson Scourge, Hundred Maws, Spine Taker are all the cursed astronomers when you fail the ritual.
>>724787280party members getting their levels scaled up with the number of days that have passed would be nice but it's not too much of a hassle now considering there's more enemies, respawning minibosses in meat world, and you can make pretty much anyone useful even if they're low level with decent equipment
>>724787530Thank you
>>724787473if you're entirely solo by the time you reach the ground floor Papineau is always (not sure if this was changed) in the men's bathroom as a way for the game to mercy give you a decent party member, but if you don't get him after the bus crash and come back another day he'll be dead
>>724787530>spine takerI would've assumed that was something to do with Spine specifically and keeping her around
>>724787989Ah fair enough, I always bum rushed it day one because I thought that was a part of the requirement to get him too, pretty nice that's not the case.
>>724731701Look outside has hopeful messages and a Good ending.Fear and hunger is just depression with shitty porn.
>>724788117Funger has good endings
>>724788078Spine is an emotional vampire with no actual plot or gameplay relevance.
>>724724875>dude this is like... THE GREATEST HORROR GAME EVER MADE!!!!!>rpg>maker>combatinsane, the "taste" of some people
>>724731701Fear and Hunger is way more of a knowledge check than this game and it punishes you a fuckton harder
>>724788529I will not tolerate Spine slander on my basket weaving forum. Prepare to die.
>>724788668So what do you consider good RPG combat
I killed Spine so hard she didn't even give the dialogue to spare here lmao
>>724788927he cute
what's the elevator sequence to get access to the fourth floor? I'm trying to do the mask ending and I don't want to waste a bunch of time not figuring out arcane bullshit
>denialYou're in denial
>>724789559i think you have to let the elevator beast live for a while to hear it in full. all i got was "up to the 3rd floor then down to the basement"
>>724773205>nonverbal autismo that randomly crawls into your bedroom, starts wrecking it for no reason and has some fixation on making card tricks but failing like a losernah
>>724789812>he didn't get the trickDamn, sucks to suck, it's a really good accessory.
>>724789812>failing
>>724788529Explain this then, huh
>>724789947>AI slop
>>724789607>eternityYou will spend an eternity in the Vietnam dungeon
Anyone know what specifically causes rat baby to become fully grown? I saw some people say it's when he reaches level 10 but mine had a growth spurt around 15 or so. Maybe its related to how many times you feed him?Also, as I'm starting my second 2.0 run soon, what's the deal with the human centipede room?
>>724790319Day after reaching level 12
>>724755756>MFW all the dogs I own outside and the litter of puppies are transformed into horrific creaturesI'll be honest anon, I'd probably be super fucked.
Bed breaking sex with Hellen.
>>724731701>inspired me to try Fear & HungerLOK LMAO HAHA
>>724790140She doesn't fit in the bathroom stall very well
>>724759050>That could work, but considering your luck with door encounters I doubt you wanna deal with thatYeah I got a chef asking me for ingredients and someone left toothpaste outsideBut I managed to get Ernest and I got to kill both of the rats at the end, didn't even need to use any molotovsI would've completely missed this if you didn't tell me about rat hell, thanks
>>724790607I dunno, I think these guys look like they're having fun
>>724791068aww their smiling :)
I got the mirror introspection event on whether you're a thief or not and decided to not be one anymore, but I finished the game right after.Is there any actual follow-up on that? It seems rare.
>Removed cheat mode because dev doesn't want people to use it to find secrets>Can easily put it back by changed one variable in save fileWhy even bother? nigga, just let people play the game however they want
>>724791068Anon I don't wanna deal with a ratking amalgam of puppies. It's not only horrifying but also very sad to see.
>>724791158Just triggered by picking up a few select items, like Henderson's war metal or family photo albums. It's just flavor text to let the player decide how they rationalize looking in the apocalypse.
I managed to recruit the grinner, but I let some fat creep take my picture in exchange for paper. How fucked am I? I know enough of the game not to give the gerbil to the astronomer at least.
>>724791602You're fine.
>sewage blade got chipped then broke in the same battle
>>724755756I wouldnt risk it, no way. Keeping my sanity while also mutating into something that can still do human things like cook a meal or watch a movie or go for a walk is possible but there is no way of knowing if that is what will happen to you and also what do you even gain? I guess more strength, but the other mutants will also be strong so it is not worth it. I would try to survive, I have plenty of books and batteries and while I am not a food hoarder because Im poor I do have enough rice and lentils to survive.
friendly reminder that you hear loud music blasting and get kicked out of your room so xaria can rip morty's asshole apart with her girl dick all day and night
>>724790840>making her use the men's restroom
Is there like a list of shit you have to do to get the unity ending? I feel like I'm definitely just going to miss stuff on my next attempt>>724792014I don't actually because I don't let them in my apartment at all (o:
How the fuck am I supposed to kill Antoine on cursed to make it to the basement in time to see the guy in the hole? This shit seems impossible.
>>724792172Spam fire bombs, acid flasks, and ranged weapons/attacks.
>>724792320I was trying to stay at three party members for Aster too, but he just slaps everyone's shit with his rider kicks.
>>724792172coat of arms beast rampage spam. add mosh pit if you really want to. rampage is crushing so it hits weakness
>alright it's cursed mode so i really have to use guns more this time>i'll just save these bullets...>end game with 60+ of each bullet type except for magnum, 10 gas for a flamethrower I used onceoops tee-hee
>>724792172>Mfw the motherfucking Guyver reference in the Cursed mode version of the fight
>dead, dying, and old boomers above seventy years of age must host worms>worms also get free school tuitionI mean free tuition is insane in that deal honestly
>>724792830?
>>724792436What the fuck, does Rat Kid have Sam's hair now
>>724765901do you need sam to be alone the entire time or just for when you go recruit the spider
>>724793004a few days after Nestor goes to Rafta's pipe and turns into worms, there'll be another worm that pops up in in that same room where his torso is named Kevin and he tries to negotiate a deal with you for the worms getting to infect people over a certain age, you can haggle with him over it. It's just a joke thing but you get an achievement for it
Cursed mode is just bring your kids to work mode.
>>724792014anon they're kids
>>724793295They go to college (art school)
>>724793173Man the amount of things I missed despite having like 50 hours on this game is insane
>>724755756>face back towards window curtain>put fake angel wings and a halo on>wear a toga and flip flops>flash curtain open for 1 second>pray I become a normal-ish mutant humanoid with wings instead of a biblically accurate reddit angel with 12 wings and 300 eyes
>Jasper doesn't want to talk about Sybil>Pretty sure I already visited the other astronomers often enoughSadness.
never raised rat kid because i dropped the run where I got him. Is he any good? Does copying the action apply to everything? Like sam uses multishot with a pistol will rat do it with his weapon? Will he copy gamer techniques? If Sam is bleeding and he does the blood knight technique will rat get the buff despite not bleeding? Will he copy tick moves?
>>724793452it's also worth talking to him because you can trade him worm eggs for gear, he gives you a bunch of attack boosting shit that can turn someone into a nuke if you stack it right
>>724793587The true reward for keeping the rat baby is the joy he brings to the apartment. Copy dad is extremely broken mechanically, if you throw the last of an item Sam Jr. will conjure one from the void so that he can throw it. If Sam is dead he will permanently copy his last action giving you theoretically infinite of any item in a fight. He's much stronger now that he grows up at least.
>>724793564Talk to Beryl again
>>724793492you might just as easily start sprouting feathers out of every orifice or merge with your clothes, exposure is a literal lottery and based on how characters just turn into a bunch of random shit you can't really game the system or try too hard to influence it
>>724793587rat baby has the best party interactions by far and is also super strong once he grows up. high attack, high speed, respectable stats across the board, pseudo-double actions every turn via copy dad plus whatever party member he copied for other abilities in your run
Does Nitro Boost and Rousing Song stack?
This game isn't really scary. I'd call it haunting I guess; like a surreal dream.
How the fuck do the iris keys work? I got one from the olm creature and it doesn't work on any of the spots I tried. I got one from Jasper and found Sybil in the apt but if you kill her it takes you to a gated off zone with 2 of her organs so I have to go find the other organs somehow eventually, where the FUCK are the keys at though??? Are they named iris keys? I only have "stained keys," is my save game fucked or something?
>>724793492This is basically Louis' plan but instead of an angel he's a furfagThe game shows how this likely does not work
What does Lyle's ass feel like?
frankie is 100% a transformation fetishist given some of the writing in this game especially the spine gameover
So, anyone have any idea what happened to Witness in Denial Ending?Did the MC kill all of them
>>724789510Stretch tried to cope for so long, Confusion seemed pretty out of it. Spine had her muse at least.
>>724793798>>724793968now i'm thinking of trashing a run i started earlier today even though I got early audrey, paps and day 2 helen. never had helen before so all her interactions are new but I'm thinking I might as well double up on the new ones. also never stuck with audrey for an entire run. should i trash it and start a rat run
>>724793832She doesn't say anything new. Just that Jasper and She (Sybil) had something going, and to ask Him (in blue text. But that's Edwin isn't it?)
>>724794269Is there a single horror game that can't be considered someone's fetish? I swear I see people say this shit about almost everything under the sun
>>724794269And Summer is an almost 1:1 replica of one of Meandraco's OCs, and Lyle was intentionally made to be cute
>>724794443EVERY party member has great interactions with rat baby, except xaria at least rat baby makes her apologize for kicking them nowit's very grounding for the rest of the group to have a lil kid around to care for
>>724794091I think my save is at least partially fucked because I was playing in the last version so for some reason roaches wouldn't evolve and Lyle wouldn't join after his conditions were met either desu. Frankie should add cheat mode back in so I can cheat back as the game fucked me over
New to the game, 5th day, just got to the ground floor... collecting orbs. Not sure how to proceed.How do I start the Sybil questline you guys keep talking about? What triggers the various endings?
>>724794269The problem is it's difficult to do some horrifying things without it being someone's fetish. Like you can say Look Outside has vore because of Marvin, but being digested alive is something that normal humans are supposed to be afraid of.
So how did kamen rider become kamen rider if his apartment is windowless?
>>724794638There's more vore now, Antoine gets swallowed whole by his girlfriend in cursed mode
>>724794603The "Sybil" questline is a harder ending, but in either case you need to talk to the astronomers and gather their offerings. You've got plenty of time.
>>724794672>browsing 4chan>someone took a photo of the visitor with their phone while keeping their eyes closed>posted it to /b/ while not looking at said image for the lulz
>>724794482Whats that meandraco oc?
So do I have to get to Charan before he leaves for the Sybil ending?
>>724794482>and Lyle was intentionally made to be cutethe game basically tells you he's a massive weirdo at every opportunity>4/5 of the options when he first asks to kiss you are denial>canonically a stuttering stalker who takes pictures of you when you're sleeping>sybil tells you not to get too close to him>pretty sure the shower thought you get about his kiss has most options say it was disgusting>opening your eyes during the second kiss has sam scream in horror>turns into this thing when you attack him
>>724794672went out to get snacks for the marathon
>>724794603progress another day and come back to the ground floor, you'll be able to get into the landlord's apartment then and pay your renttalk to each astronomer and exhaust their dialogue, you need to talk to Beryl and Jasper multiple times specifically and you'll get a key to Apartment 12find the correct offerings, the game gives you various hints but make sure you're paying attention because there's a few that'll try to trick you into thinking you have the 'correct' thing
>>724794958lyle is safe creepy
>>724794761if you check social media on your computer the game actually explains that people trying to take pictures of what's outside either can't post them because the uploads fail or the picture is always scrambled nonsense, that's part of the reason you have to jump through so many hoops for some of the offerings
>>724794797her
>>724794972That would transform him yeah but he literally becomes his anime figurine so for that to work he must've been noticed by the visitor while near to the figurine, no? I guess maybe he was wearing a kamen rider tshirt?
>>724794958>takes pictures of you when you're sleepingThere are pictures of Sam in his dark room but it doesn't specify how he looks in them, plus you don't find out until after killing him
>>724794958>pretty sure the shower thought you get about his kiss has most options say it was disgustingthey say weird, not so bad, stupid, and cute
Should I just mercy kill Charlie?
>>724795469Thank you, I got that event but I forgot what the options were
>>724795492I did it, yeah. Nothing good could come from that mutation
>>724777329Just 5 kilos of bone marrow!
>need to solo sam and raise danger level to the max, beat five large shadows with molotovs or explosivesthis is worse than cursed mode, maybe i shouldn't be trying to beat the big shades on day 2 but then i wouldn't know how to get a high danger level past the easy floors without making saving a hassle, maybe farming the small shades for the ooze and go from there
>>724794992>>724794754Thanks bros. Also I want to fuck Pierre.
>>724795246>I guess maybe he was wearing a kamen rider tshirt?that'd make sense. I just assumed he walked around in public with the scarf and belt on at all times. With the shirt, belt and scarf all together it might work. I'm sure whatever people are transformed into is based on whatever looks cool and is fun to draw but there could be a logic to how the visitor perceives people. I'd say it's vision is "burry" in the sense that it combines people & objects near them together as well as where they are psychologically. this applies to some mutants but not others. Maybe the bus driver's hands were the most visible and his life relies heavily on them for driving or at least at that moment his life depended on his hands so he got turned into hands. I don't remember how everyone on the bus got handed but if it was a hand infection originating from the bus driver that would be the logic
>>724744482Absolutely. It's earnestly about being deluded enough that you get the Visitor to influence reality. The reason Mutations are a crap shoot is because most people aren't focusing on something strong enough when they see and are seen. It's why the Anime Ending happens because Sam goes fully into Anime Bullshit while in direct conversation with the Visitor so it's not just a glancing look. You just have to be in direct contact long enough to game the system. It's why Sybil's little autistic interpretation of the Visitor is so destructive because she's had the most direct contact with it and so her little "rule" about not finding out the truth only activates if you read "her" note. Because Sybil's too autistic to realize probably a bunch of other people have had the same though as her but it didn't trigger anything. She created the "rules" for the Visitor to interpret that have to be followed specifically for Unity to occur. Understanding the system means that you could probably convince the Visitor "Hey, you appeared to meet me and make me into a God with unfathomable power, the ability to raise the dead, and to have all your powers but +1 and also I don't go insane" and the Visitor would probably go "oh okay"The Visitor is the definition of the Dreaming Blind Dumb and Deaf Eldritch God that even lacked concept of self until it talked to you. You can scam that fucker pretty easy if you aren't stupid, which is what the Anime Ending is. Scamming it into thinking anime is real and getting your own isekai life
>>724796050Is there a specific eldritch deity the Visitor is inspired by?
>>724794754>not a fat ugly bastardNot Sam
>>724796105I think Yog-Soggoth.Him or someone like him is actually larger than our known universe and their mere presence can fuck everything.They are not necessarily evil though.
Does Dan's chat have anything unique when he scans true form Sybil
>>724796105The good old trinity: Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, and Nyarlathotep.
>>724794716You get vored at the very start when you look outside or is that not vore
>>724776662>how crazy some of the other party members areSuch as?
>>724796050I think it's a bit more than that, if you take Unity at face value and everything is just Visitor cells then ultimately the eldritch god is jumping through dozens and dozens of hoops to schizophrenically convince itself of and arrive at a new reality
>>724796553Double Roaches, Phillippe, Lyle, Leigh with her new ring, hell even the rat is strong now if you level him.
>>724796631It's paradoxical but I think the point is everything is not Visitor cells unless you convince reality that it is, and then it becomes retroactively true.
>>724796821>Double RoachesQrd?Also YOU CAN RECRUIT PHILIPPE?
>>724796867Recruit?! No. SAVE. SAVE HIM FROM HELL. OUR BEST FRIEND.
>>724796867I never stopped believing in my best friend
>>724796867Roaches have a political debate with themselves and split into two that always give you two actions per turn. Phillippe can be recruited if you do the delusional thing and after killing the spore queen take his remains back to your apartment and nurse him back to health.
>>724796553Dan's triple hit skill that blinds him won't blind him if you equip the eye amulet, build up some viewers on him and get him a Coat of Arms and he's suddenly hitting for huge chunks six times a turn with no downsidesRoaches with HP stacking can absolutely nuke now, especially with some of the new weapons like the whips you get from Darryl letting you get swarms on people super easyJoel is still insane because of Teethstorm and HP stacking too
The Taxidermy boss kind of is a pain in the ass honestly.
Is it possible to trivialize Cursed Mode with a busted party configuration?
>>724797064it was way too easy before but now it's just an AoE check
>>724796968For Philipe you don't even have to kill the queen.
>>724724875Stop shilling these tranny look outside threads The game goes full reddit after the halfway point and synthetic man has proven this game sucks ass It's by a sjw troon Canadian leftist cuck
>>724797218>synthetic man
>>724797218Your shitposts are just sad dude, you always say the same shit every thread like a broken record. Just move on.
>>724796968How do I even get Roaches? I noticed roaches hopping into my inventory while playing a while ago but that's as far as it went for me(I didn't kill them I just took them out of my inventory)
>>724797173Maybe I'm just underleveled or don't have good enough gear/resources but he fucks me up with that needle stab attack before his full transformation.
>>724797065probably, but it's still a matter of getting those party members to begin with
>>724797305treat them nice and let food rot
>>724797218ain't that the futa guy?
>>724797305Keep them in your inventory and take them home so you infest your home. Start petting them when you get the option to when catching them. Leave food out on the table overnight for them to eat. That's pretty much it, you'll get them eventually.
>>724797305let them hitch a ride back to your apartment with you>>724797371more specifically you need to cook food and leave it out on the table for them at night
>>724797383He gives all futa enjoyers a bad name
>check the tooth family apartment again after it got "infected" by the baby>never recruited Joel and now he's fully subsumed by his transformation>his brother has somehow grown even larger>mouth door shuts after I leave and won't open anymoreWew, I feel like I fucked that up pretty good.
I like when "they/them" characters are actually they/them because they're just a fucking swarm of cockroaches. Every game should follow this example
>>724797495They do that themselves by being obnoxious in how hard they pretend to not be gay, only 2 steps behind furries in annoyance
>>724797218you are circumcised
>>724796471No Nyarlathotep. Crawling Chaos is explicitely knowing and malicious to humanity. Unlike the others, Nyarly specifically fucks with humanity for shits and giggles.
>>724794392Nice to see my art here without my posting it first
>>724797665Yes, but it still works, doesn't it? Look at the myriad malicious forms so many people take upon seeing the Visitor. The Visitor, like Azathoth, is itself not malicious, but that kind of divinity begets malice in thinking beings like humans. The same way Nyarlathotep is malice begotten by Azathoth's dreaming.
>>724796954Phillippe number 1>>724797684Do you upload your art somewhere?
>>724797218Shut up you gay vtuber simp cuck.
>>724797927No but I might make a MEGA specifically for fan art.
>>724796954>>724797927Where do these Phillippe pics come from? Are they in the game?
>>724798358Yes, you just need to go deeper into the Fungal Lair to find them. They're post-princess content.
How early can I get Audrey? I just started a new file and am set on getting Roaches this time. Where should I be looking for coinmaxxing?
why do some people get mad about the mutant camp anyway? it's shown multiple times before that point that not every single cursed is a violent maniac>you can recruit multiple cursed before this point, including hellen joel and morton >mutt's fish and chips is full of cursed who aren't violent>the guy who rushes at you on your way to the flooded basement leaves you alone if you give him bandages>as of 2.0., pierre (though sam does shit himself seeing him)
>>724798487nobody sane gets mad about it it's spergs looking for reasons to bitch about whatever game pops up in the catalog with multiple threads
>>724798436Wow that's so cool
>>724798445the knife tutorial apt has a safe with coins, the landlord's apt also has a coin collection, that should be enough for all the advices i feel
>>724798487Just spergs and retards who think it's quirk chungus to have friendly freaks and don't understand the dichotomy of the horror being presented in the game.
>>724798646Yes! Now go hug our princess and make Phillippe very happy!
Patchwork set is actually kind of bonkers with them all giving +max HP and bleed resistance, at least at this stage of the game.
