How would you make Shin Megami Tensei 6?
i would instead make devil survivor 3
>>724746482SMT IVs setting and SMT VV's gameplay
>>724746482Get whoever wrote the story and characters in IV/devil survivor and ape Apocalypse's gameplay. Also this would tank the sales but I'd go back to grid style dungeons and use Etrian Odyssey's design sensibilities+FOEs.>>724746692Based
>>724746482Sex with demon women as a gameplay feature
>>724746692>>724746843This thread is THE based department
I would make it be not set in Tokyo, use of human party members like 5 had (but they're permanent members like Digital Devil Saga, not temporary party members who leave at times), and let people use guns like the gat, the AK, the RPG, and then let you have romance with the demons, including sex which would make them semen demons. Physical copies include a coupon for free fried chicken
>>724746482I dunno I'd probably start by getting a job at Atlus.
>>724746482Go back to the series roots and make a first person dungeon crawler. Bring back the D/L axis both for story and alignment, making 9 endings NINE style. Make what skills the MC can use more limited again, I don't care if it's gear based like SJ or something like 3 or even no skills like the games that do that; no more MC can learn shit from demons with no effort. Skill inheritance for fusion is random again, with sources like SJ for controlled inheritance. Coop system instead of press turn, incentivize using alignments that match your own. Boolet system like eramegaten for guns, where you have to buy consumable ammo for anything more than the basic shot. NO RESIST/NULL/ABSORB/REFLECT/BOOST/AMP PASSIVES, at least not ones that can be inherited. Pierce should be much rarer in general, and should only ever pierce up to null. No impaler. Aptitudes were good, keep those and make them influence what skills can be inherited. Parts based skill inheritance like nocturne. Expand the roster as much as possible. Controllable human party members depending on route. Only humans and demons with a skill can use items. Pierce/slash/blunt/havoc physical split. fire/ice/elect/force/mind/nerve/light/dark magic split. bring back instant kill spells while keeping the damaging light/dark ones. Armor for humans includes head/body/arms/legs/accessory slots, with armor having resistances. Also have weapon/gun slots. Different weapon types for the weapon slots.
>>724746482Lots of hard dungeonsLess open hub area BS
>>724746482Back to basics urban fantasy that slowly becomes cyberpunk post apocalyptic. The human factor of SMT is pretty underused in modern games, give me something like the early parts of 1 or If...
>>724747903>>724748736These two seem like a decent mechanical and aesthetic foundation.I don't mind the wealth VV and mods have pushed, but while the director was right that people come to SMT for the demons I feel like the lack of grounded human operation turns it from MT into something more like FF if your MC can do whatever too.>>724746692This also is a good alternative.
>>724746482no more day 1 DLCno more selling glorified DLC as an excuse to sell the game twice
>>724746482>How would you make Shin Megami Tensei 6?Remaster of #3, seems to be what sells these days.
>>724746843Isn't 4 the game that kept making new plot threads and then abandoned all of them? And the characters stay with you the whole game but still barely get any development? Why do you like that?
MORE.FAT.FUCKING. TIDDIES.
>>724746482Make the protagonist a regular human with a COMP, sword and gun.>>724746692This would be fine too. I've been pestering Atlus for DeSu 3 and EO6 on every survey they put out.
Can we get a game without the standard LNC routes for once and not have Lucifer and some facet of YHVH in the game
>>724746482Make it for straight men. No more gay shit. Sexo with demon women (female). It's that easy.
>>724752798Sounds like you're very insecure, which is pretty gay.
i've been wanting to play smt 2, but its still untranslated on ps1 and lol lmao snes.should i just use the RA AI translation or wait another 20 years for Tom to translate it?
>>724746482Like 3 and 5 but with more dungeons.
>>724746692This. As for SMT main next installment, dont give the protag such a faggot design.
SMT VI should go back to the 2000’s era. Big monitor computers. Old CRT TV’s. Do something like Soul Hackers where MC discovers demons exist in an underground network, then an Armageddon event happens, like a supernova, and the rest of the game is post-apocalypse. Also, add some nudity you pussies, and more smoking characters
>>724752828>If you don't want gay shit akshually you are gay>Only people that love gay shit are straight Typical leftist pilpul. Fuck off retard.
>>724753101Nah man it's pretty gay to get uncomfortable around anything remotely feminine.
>>724746692Absurdly based
>>724752585>I've been pestering Atlus for DeSu 3 and EO6 on every survey they put out.Same. My fear though is they probably saw P5T bomb and decided if a Persona SRPG can't do well then it isn't worth doing a non-Persona one
>>724753057You basically just said do SMT1: 2
>>724752187>kept making new plot threads and then abandoned all of them?Which ones specifically? >And the characters stay with you the whole game but still barely get any developmentYes we call that mainline SMT. That said Isabeau was alright, especially when she fights you and then slits her own throat to spare you from dirtying your hands. What I liked about IV was primarily the world and the feel. One thing that stood out to me was the little snippets you get from actually talking to NPCs. You get to know the people of Tokyo, how they're wearing coats year round due to lack of sunlight, how they feel dirty because water rationing makes it hard to wash, how one guy grumbles about how hard it is to grow anything down there and how it all goes to the tables of the rich, how an entire generation grew up without seeing sunlight etc. I very much prefer this grittiness to the silliness of nocturne and V's demons or the souls you talk to in the former, as they're the primary sources of conversation in the world. They're mostly Saturday morning cartoon whacky even when they do dispense information or try to kill you. I was really disappointed in Apocalypse when they made all those NPCs give useless small talk or obvious observations, quickly gave up bothering to talk to them. For factions, Gaians get some spotlight when you see Kaga and co violently pummel Xi Wangmu from the inside after being eaten, meanwhile Tayama's idea with the Reds is both gruesome and yet a pragmatic way of cohabiting with the demons. I liked that. On top of this, despite the lack of fleshing out and the heel turn towards extremism for law/chaos reps post route split, I quite liked the party dynamic. You're a group of young yet capable soldiers on a mission and this is maintained for most of the game. Walter and Johnathan have different backgrounds and temperaments and have some nice back and forth. I just liked the overall feel of trekking with them.
>>724753721No, that would require bringing back random drops which would be even better. I love randomly getting OP equips that blow through enemies better than any possible shop purchases
What demons, monsters, cryptids, and legendary creatures would you add SMT?I want the fucking Spring Heeled Jack. How have they not done this yet?
>>724746482take notes on strange journey, ignore redux entirely.
>>724746482with more sexy mermaids
>>724746482what this anon fucking said : >>724752893Also hire a COMPETANT story/scenario writer ffs... SMT5 has a GARBAGE story, even Vengence
>>724747418This but you can't romance demons who are already taken in their mythology.
>>724754387>SMT5 has a GARBAGE story, even VengenceI disagree entirely.It's really good.
>>724753430>why yes im comfyyyy around gay ass looking men why should you be too sweeety?You ARE a homosexuaaaaalitooo eeeh?
>>724746482Take the gameplay of VV and Apocalypse and put it into the setting of IV. Have the humans play a key role in the story again. Have different factions of humans and demons. The series setting arguably shines the most when it displays the conflicts and contrasts between humans and demons. That's why everyone remembers stuff like Reverse Hills, Blasted and Infernal Tokyo from 4 and the whole story of SJ.
>>724754606now you're starting to type like a fag too.
>>724754509Suck a dick and get better standards.Vengence is also garbage. A SLIGHTLY better TIER of garbage than vanilla SMT5's story doest make it great or amazing. Still garbage.The new femake bitch barely adds stuff to the overall story
>>724754650Im not that anon you were talking to, just saying you are a fag in denial. Bet you love futa too and think you're straight
>>724754683I don't trust you. You don't seem like the kind of person who's capable of recognizing quality, far too childish and egotistical.
Setting somewhere other than Tokyo
>>724752853not sure about RA-AI, but I’ve noticed that most AI mixed up he/she in dialogues and often lose track of the context because there’s just so much text to translate
>>724746482Reuse the code that made SMTVVAdd 20 new demons, take out 10 that no one likesWrite a good story. Maybe do something different other than god is dead or kill god. You are on God's side this time.Actually make good dungeons this time.No post apocalyptic levels
>>724754937>You are on God's side this time.huh? These games at their core have an alignment system. If you're just on god's side you're just law only.
>>724746482>Go back to the style of SMT1>First demons invade the real world>Then the apocalypse happens>You survive but get thrown into a post apocalyptic cyberpunk world>cult of gaia, messians and other groups are back>A bunch of different routes and endings for each faction>3D environments to explore, but clear focus on dungeons>Throw everything V did out the window>Use 4 Apocalypse as the base for gameplay, equipment, apps etc.>Guns and armor are back>Maybe keep the demon hort for the waifufags
>>724755572>>Throw everything V did out the windowI was with you until this. I really did not like 4 and 4A at all.
playing strange journey right now as my first smt gamepretty funi was thinking soul hackers next or ivthe demons are all pretty cool
>>724746482Do SMTV again but with actual dungeons
>>724755838Yeah it was a pretty great game, just lacked variety in locales.I'd also ask to make the UI better. It looked like they just slapped the tokyo mirage session UI onto SMT5.
>>724755121God is dead in SMTV and SMT3. Maybe Law awakens God to save everyone and Chaos awakens God to smite everyone.
>>724746482V is a great foundation, I don't think the gameplay needs to change a lot. This time, just focus on writing a good story. Other than that, I'd like to go back to an urban cyberpunk setting, bring back equipment customization, maybe have an MC who isn't such an uber powerful demigod. I also think instead of the overworld structure of V, have Tokyo just be a hub you return to throughout the game, with lots of human characters you can interact with. And then have the rest of the game take place in dungeons in various locations.
>>724755735Was V your first SMT game?
>>724756096>And SMT3Not until post-credits in the TDE ending where it's implied Demi and Lucifer go to fight him.During the game, all Reasons are technically Law aligned, Freedom is Neutral, and only Demon and True Demon are Chaos.All reasons are sanctioned by God, hence why you're allowed to use god's power (kagutsuchi) to recreate the world.
>>724746482By making it like I,II & IV and absolutely nothing like Nocturne & V save for Demon Haunt convos
>>724756371No. Was 4 yours?>>724756096SMT3 is kinda chaos-leaning because the only worthwhile ending is true demon since it has more content and leads to a sequel (5), and 5 is more law-aligned since you are literally trying to set up a system of law in a destroyed, chaotic world. But you can still pursue the alignments.It would be interesting if you make your route choice right at the beginning of the game, to serve God or fight against him.
Metatron should have given you the Pierce ability if you choose to turn back before fighting him, that way players won't feel like they're missing out by not doing TDE and can still choose a Reason ending.
>>724756457>no innates Yeah nah fuck off
>>724756381Imagine YHVH actually allowing something like Yosuga to fester when it completely goes against LAW's primary dogma of always worshipping YHVH for the sole reason He is YHVH, and not some literallywho strongest headhoncho at that timeOr how Fallen demons are helping creating a world of complete stillness where you might be a silent god - but there's no passion, desire or anything left completely negating why they even fell and helped Lucifer in the first placeThat's how retarded Nocturne Reasons are
>>724756794>Imagine YHVH actually allowing something like Yosuga to fester when it completely goes against LAW's primary dogma of always worshipping YHVH for the sole reason He is YHVH, and not some literallywho strongest headhoncho at that timeYeah like our presidents, tyrannical leaders, corporate CEOs and... oh wait.YHVH's primary goal as the God of Law is to keep things ordered. Worshipping law is worshipping YHVH as far as he's concerned.
>>724756928...and Yosuga is anathema to LAW considering you should only follow who's the strongest and the world becomes a chaotic hellhole of demons and humans constantly fighting to compete for that roleTo even THINK that you could beat YHVH or replace Him is already a grave sin to LAW's dogma
>>724757036>...and Yosuga is anathema to LAWWrong. It is the absolute definition of law. You will have a leader - the strongest. They decide what is Law, and Law is preserved.What do you think Lucifer's monologues about the Mandala meant in 5? Chaos begets Law and Law begets Chaos. That's why his "true form" was a mechanical angel even if he's considered fallen. He's part of the inescapable Mandala.
>>724757036>To even THINK that you could beat YHVH or replace Him is already a grave sin to LAW's dogmaYosuga doesn't think about beating YHVH. It's through YHVH's power, the kagutsuchi, that they're recreating the world to begin with.
>>724756794>>724757036The angels including all four archangels follow Yosuga.Not saying they haven't faltered in their dedication to YHVH in other games, but generally speaking the decision to have the angels follow Yosuga is to indicate to you that it is still a lawful route in its own way. "Rule by the strongest" is how YHVH has been described as becoming the almighty in other games, and how he cements his rule.
>>724757680The Vortex world is also pretty much Yosuga's philosophy, which is where Chiaki got the idea to begin with. And the Vortex world is definitely monitored and accepted by God, otherwise he would have abolished the act when he ascended the throne. It's a microcosm.
>>724746482fpbplike fp said i'd make devil survivor, with a even more '' adult '' setting
metaflop or SMT IV?
>>724746692fpbp