>>724758647
skill issue, also not true

I was going to wank and then give this a try, any tips?

>buy an extraction shooter
>its an extraction shooter
>complain about it
anon please get better and realize you should never buy another one of these again and also join me in ridiculing people who do

>>724758772
shoot everyone on sight

Literally everyone told you morons but noooo you refused to listen and foolishly believed the hype of a thousand paid streamers saying it was going to be the next big thing

>>724758647
that's part of the gameplay loop right? you're just one cheapshot camp kill away from looting somebody who's fully geared up. obv not for everybody but i think that's the appeal

>>724758758
>>724758789
>>724759190
>t. total homos

Isn't that literally every extraction shooter, how many times do people have to fall for that lol

>spawn
>walk a few steps
>someone starts shooting me
>clearly some nigga in a free set
>im also in a free set
>downs me but almost kill him
>bot flies in to finish him while he's trying to do the knock out animation
what the fuck was his plan???

The problem isnt this game is an extraction shooter, its that there is no point. Winning and losing is the same, progress means nothing.

>>724760118
Who gives a shit, there was no point to joining a 32 man server on tf2 or counter strike but people did it anyway

>>724759909
>see a guy in a small building getting swarmed by wasps and hornets
>run in to help him out
>before they're even destroyed he kills me
Has happened to me like three times. Some people are just retarded.

>>724758647
you mean the free pack retards are more easily killed off because people have been kitting up to a standard blue shield + health. skill issue.

>>724760303
they really need to just remove pvp from these. it would be a hit

a thread filled with lukewarm takes. even a scrub is open to learning more and survive better than a bunch of faggots that think they know how to play this genre.

>>724758772
DONT SHOOT
Then shoot.

>girl on mic
>always friendly
>"girl" (voice changer) on mic
>always a rat faggot
what causes this

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Give me 3 reasons to buy this game. Shill me on it. It has piqued my curiosity because of the similarities to the Last of Us online (which was an incredible multiplayer). Is there actually any replayability? What are they going to do in future updates?

>>724760672
Back in the MW2 era the type of girls that played video games were the obnoxious weird feminist chicks at your school and now they're just normal women for the most part.

>>724761015
>AI is actually pretty smart and poses a challenge
>gunplay and shooting mechanics are all probably polished
>great sound and visual design

I'd say my only complaint is that in solo queue players are either pretty chill dudes who are willing to help out or absolute fags like >>724758647.

>>724761015
at least you can start playing almost immediately within 10 mins after the tutorial
you can probably get 4-5 match in before 2 hours
if you still dont like it then you can easily refund it
unlike tarkov where raid take 30-40 mins
this game take like 5-10 at most unless you want to camp and wait for timer
map is smallish and the extract is always right in middle of the map where all the loots are
compare to takov where you have to basically travel from end to end

Escape from duckov will outlive this
Arc raiders is manufactured artificial hype

>>724758647
I still almost never see anyone shooting other players in solos. Fuck, just earlier I was playing trios and did a great ambush, set up a trap and everything, and EVERYONE ELSE just decided not to have a fight. No one else fired a fucking shot and were just asking where a quest objective place was.
It's insane to me how passive the players are in this game (currently). I don't completely hate it or anything, but... damn.

>>724762341
I play solo and 95% of the time I run into another player we either just say hey and keep walking or ask what we are looking for and help out. Some guy showed me where a field depot was because they're not marked on the map til you get close. Then when he was leaving he dropped me 3 apricots and said I will need them later for my chicken. Lots of cool people playing right now IMO

>>724762682
Really need to use my mic for these fucking apricots. No idea where they are and I have more fun not looking up anything for this.

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>hmm well i managed to kill a bastion maybe I can handle a leaper
>high vantage point, I can just snipe at it
>take the first shot
>mfw

>>724762341
>>724762682
go to spaceport or the 4th area and you'll change your mind
night raids are pretty pvp heavy too

>>724762852
how do you even kill a leaper??? I was using an upgraded ferro rifle and I felt like I was doing no damage. I was just playing ring around the rosy with it shooting it for so long I ran out of ammo.
>>724762916
maybe I'm just lucky. I have only gotten killed by another player in a night raid once, and he kept apologizing for it. Was funny.

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I still don't get how they made Fortnite with Gearscore a genre and how people still buy into the hype

Running around with a Torrente does feel like an auto win against 90% of the people I run into

>>724758772
Use the built in voice changer to sound like a girl, then just run around and ERP with strangers

>>724762823
Go to areas that have nature resources and look for trees. You can kick them to knock them down. Ruined City has them, I think.

>>724762916
The blue gate has been the friendliest area of all.

>>724763207
I didn't know there was a built in voice changer

>>724763258
it’s called raider voice

>>724758647
Why wouldn't I shoot you

>>724763595
There's very little benefit in doing so when the map has far more loot on it than everyone in the round can carry

I bumped into a few people but only shot at one because he shot at me first, the other two were just looking for loot and I don't care about loot right now so I just wandered around

>>724763595
>shoot the average player just looting and doing quests
>at best you get whatever shield chargers or ammo they had left
You're just a homo dude.

>>724763872
>>724763785
No point in killing free kits cause they generally have fuck all, unless its <15m left then I am murdering you because no safe pocket means you might have something. But also, free kits have zero downside to PVPing because they aren't losing shit. Then people with gear get shot by some free kit ferro hero and proceed to shoot on sight from then on

its a cycle

>>724763872
>play multiplayer shooty bang bang game
>cry when you get shooty bang banged
lmao maybe go back to animal crossing jr

I don't have anyone to play with

>>724764125
Team fill works fine. You can try to lead them if you have something specific to do, or you can just tag along if they're doing something specific. As long as you don't put yourself in a position where you're relying on their competence (ie always have an escape vector if you can) it usually works out. There are enough tools for communication without speaking to make things work for your average autist too.

>>724764125
solo is unironically more fun
teams is just everyone shooting on sight on free kits

>>724764216
Team fill works if you go free kit, I am not trusting matchmaking with my good gear
>>724764256
also this, solos have the mix bag of both tons of friendly people and tons of killers so meeting people is always atleast interesting. I've had big groups roll around then disperse, and within 30 seconds of leaving seeing a red flare pop up.

>>724758647
>expecting aything more from an extraction shooter

ratting is even worse in 3rd person

I really hate all the coloring tier weapon, I just wish there are more weapons instead, make some weapon better than scrape gun for all i care
you are still using the same shit over and over again now its in different color so bigger number
in tarkov picking up more uncommon guns is always a treat
you can look forward to use/loot anything that isnt ak74u/m4
like here i dont really care when I pick up Ferro III
it still the same shit

>>724765390
>make some weapon better than scrape gun for all i care

I've been saying this but faggots always resort to "muh aesthetic" it's utterly retarded that all the weapons are prison zip guns.

>have like five purple items
>trying to get to the last elevator
>faggots keep closing it on me after I ask to keep it open, have to fight four hornets and a leaper
>repeat three times
>last time help the dude not die from a wasp
>he closes the door on me
>get tase fucked by a Hornet and jumped on be the Leaper
Honestly the most I've raged at a video game in a while

>>724766067
I went to the Water Treatment door at night and came out with a blueprint, Wolfpack, purple and blue guns, and a hookshot in my ass.

Ended up dying because when I started the elevator one fucker aggroed the Leaper and a third closed the doors even when I'm crawling towards it and left my ass. The second dude jumped out but I died seconds before the second elevator closed and neither of us got my loot.

>>724766205
That was the exact scenario I dealt with. Brought a key to hit that room at night, got a bunch of sick loot, retards on free kits extracting with ARC Plating fuck me over

how many wolfpacks does it take to kill a bastion?
im finding them like candy and am considering risking it

extraction/BR are just deathmatch with a bunch of padding. I'll never get the appeal, maybe because I'm not a streamer faggot that gets a bunch of donations on a win.

>>724766627
I killed one with a dozen light impacts, maybe 2 packs. Just make sure you throw the bomb above it, it needs to cluster in open air or the rockets hit the ground.

>>724758647
if you play this normie slop you don't belong here

It's been so long since I last found a blueprint that I forgot they existed.

>>724758647
I'm already bored to death of this game and can't even ask for a refund because I'm at like 20 hours.

>DMA Card: IN
>ESP: ON
>AIMBOT: ON
>CONTAINER ESP: ON

Yep. It's extraction shooter time. Thanks Nexon!

>Gamedevs: "WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE NON-TOXIC BEHAVIOUR IN GAMES AND WE WILL PUNISH YOU IF YOU SAY BAD WORDS THAT DON'T FIT OUR AGENDA"
>also gamedevs: *produces one of the most subhuman genres in the existence of gaming that actively enforces backstabbing, betrayal and paranoia*

Truly a leftist fever dream

>>724765590
>>724765390
>lazy cash grab is a lazy cash grab
You fools always fall for this shit

>>724758647
I won't play Concord 2 no matter how many threads you make about it.

Wake me up when they make a PvE mode with 2x bot spawns and new bot types. PvP is boring and easy.

>"Dont shoot!"
>Starts running towards me instead of going his own way
Yeah no, you're getting shot

>>724763595
you lose resources to gain what, a couple of plastic bottles? it only makes sense to shoot people near extract

>>724770514
Men proving they're terrible at communication

>>724770431
2x bot spawns is already a thing in night raids. New bot types are on the roadmap for this month. PvE never though, tons have asked for it but it won't happen

Why are you people trying to team up with your enemies
Are you stupid?

>>724758772
what are you going to fap to, maybe i can give you some recommendations for round 2

>>724770835
Because devs hate success

>>724770578
That's a really stupid assumption.
You can't know what people have in their inventory. I've randomly found blueprints/magenta items in the first 30 seconds of a round before.

>>724758772
Minor spoiler for the tutorial/prologue thing that will net you more items:
When you reach the "breach this door" tutorial bit, stow your entire inventory (including your gun) in a nearby container/cupboard before breaching the door.

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>>724760286
That man has never seen a pub push in his life

>>724770857
One race the human race

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>died with an Anvil blueprint

>>724758647
would a PvE extraction shooter work? could it be popular? everyone helps out each other to conquer the world enemies. you could have enemy corpses drop a box that has unique loot per player, so nobody would even need to argue over "that was my kill, i should get the parts/loot" or one guy taking all of the boss loot.

>>724758647
Wow, who could have predicted this.

>>724773192
I'd only play a pve extraction shooter with a fitting stile. There is that one post apocalypse one, but I don't feel that one.

>>724773102
Bro... your ass hole?

>>724773102
>>724773792
Free kit nigger got what he fucking deserved

Why did they taint this game by pairing up with Nexon
Fucking Nexon?!

test

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>amount of ducks in stash are shown in bedroom
neat

>>724773192
No because extraction games are inherently flawed. They're a condensed form of survival game that forces you into an arena with no survival mechanics, an invulnerable base of operations and different players.

If this game was open world and a survival game, there wouldn't be these problems. I can simply hide and run away, there's no world boundary that you know I'm stuck to, there's no exits you know I have to get to. Furthermore, you don't go out with your good stuff all the time, not just because you'll lose it but because it will be used directly against you and can be used to attack your stash. You can't piss enough people off that they decide to team up and attack your base because you're never facing the same people and because your base is a menu, it can't be raided.
.

Extraction games are survival games made bad.

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>>724774228
i sold them all

>>724758647
>concord coded
>massive success
pls make it make sense lmao

Yup, going to murder everyone on sight. Can't give anyone the benefit anymore, I fucking need to stop hesitating blasting people who have a gun out.

>>724763103
I didn't buy it.

>>724760303
Why would he leave you alive? What would he gain from it? If he kills you, he gets your stuff. How is this a difficult concept for you to understand?

>>724775348
>someone helps you to not die
>kill them and then probably die yourself
Wow if only everyone who played video games thought like a black

>>724775435
Why would he "probably die"? The bots are not a legitimate threat by themselves. Also you didn't answer the question. What would he gain by leaving you alive?

>>724763103
There are a LOT of PvP people who suck at PvP and need gimmicks to win. Inequality in gear is very popular for them.

>>724775348
Again this stems from >>724774483 where the game is essentially a survival game. So much so that people can see similarities around it.

Why would you leave someone alive? In an extraction game there's no benefit to it unless they're a friend you'll play with again. There's no forming good will or relationships with anyone. There's no familiarity of people, you don't make people want to help you or join you, you simply give your potential enemies a better chance. The odds of you fighting against them again are very low but theoretically it exists, there is more benefit to killing them than there is to not.

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WHO COULD HAVE FUCKING SEEN IT COMING THAT A NEW EXTRACTION SHOOTER WOULD SUCK
DON'T WORRY ANON, 1.0 IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER ;)

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I've never played this genre besides a bit of Dark and Darker. I like the idea, but always see people complain about them.

Is it worth me trying this one? Genuine question. I could do with an online shooter kind of game between the like 10 JRPGs I've been playing

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>>724758647
I like how software is re-appropriation rainbows colors which were everywhere in the 70's and 80's hardware and software such as Macintosh, Commodor or Kodak, until the fags started to spread AIDS.

>>724775782
No because you're too late.
While you're trying to figure out what loot is valuable, how to deal with the PvE mechanics and how the PvP fights go, you're playing against people that already have good loot, knows the maps and so on.

>>724760118
>Winning and losing is the same, progress means nothing.
the absolute state of Zooms

>>724775505
There's a whole series of bots which range from easy to extremely hard, anything above a wasp is tricky solo, a hornet is OK if you've got some cover. Snitches are OK as long as they don't get away and call in reinforcements. Leapers you wouldn't risk solo, nor would the rocket bots, the bombardier or queen. Gaining an ally by letting people live is quite powerful, the chance you can extract safely is much greater, if another team allies up and you attack one of them you end up with 2 shooting back. Most of the time in medium and high loot zones there's more good gear that 1 person could haul out in 10 trips, much less 1.

Extraction shooters, like Battle Royale, are all soulless slop

>>724775782
I have hundreds hours in Tarkov and i bought Arc raider to play for a bit but it's underwhelming in its progression and the overall feeling of the game is too casual

>>724775920
>Kodak
at least its a bit different Polaroid is straight up the same

>first couple of days, players are just having fun and even having interactions with each another besides killing and looting
>next week, everybody is a sweaty tryhard willing to kill their mothers just to extract with the shittiest loot
>voice chat is a death sentence
It's always the same. Also, what does that anon mean with "tarkov killers". The Tarkov devs already made sure to kill the game. Who still plays that shit?

>>724760286
alltalk cp_dustbowl 32/32... vgh, home...

>>724776223
vgh = Video Game Home

>>724758647
it's a PVP game, any notion of it being PVE first was just false marketing and delusional Redditors

>>724776459
vgh = hi

>>724759909
sounds like you got outskilled by a chad

This game lacks cash dumps. I have max stash and over 200k coins and still have a full stash. I wish it had Tarkov containers/cases, and generally anything to dump my money into.

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Post yfw you didn't fall for ACK Raiders.

>>724776917
what are you doing today

>STRANGERS ARE SHOOTING ME ON SIGHT IN A LOOT BASED GAME HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME

>>724777007
Those people are retards, there's very little to gain by just randomly shooting people on sight and potentially you can brick your entire run

>>724776983
Drinking tea and waiting for Inazuma Eleven Victory Road the one and only goty 2025.

>>724775971
It's been two days bro what the fuck

>>724776097
Casual in a sense it would be good for me who isn't used to the genre or what?

>>724758647
>camps u

>>724777034
>ARE...ARE YOU SHOOTING ME? IN A SHOOTER GAME? FOR MY LOOT? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>724777221
retard

>Don't shoot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYNlJQ-dIuY

>>724777106
>Casual in a sense it would be good for me who isn't used to the genre or what?
game is full of redditors that dont pvp right now

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>>724758647
>DayZ is old enough to play itself and there are still niggas going woooow about sociopaths in sociopath simulators

>>724775708
No retard, every fight you take is a risk, if you blow your load fighting some carebear and he gets some good shots in you might be out of meds afterwards and not make it to the extract even if you win the fight. Your fighting could attract 3rd parties that pop you while you loot the first guy. I'm not saying you should never kill other players but at least try to think a little.

By the way if you didn't have breakfast this morning how would you feel?

>>724758647
Literally had a great game last night were I ran into several people while scavenging for fruits who just went about their day and even helped me kill some bots. If you just use the mic, most of the time you're great

>>724778696
You seem to keep forgetting that fighting is the fun part of the game.

>>724779756
Read what I wrote again you dumb fuck.

>>724779875
All I see is you crying about taking risk because boohoo you might lose some stuff.
Your reasoning is also inherently flawed because you can't possibly know the content of someone's inventory until you check it, so the one guy you kill might have all the meds on the map.
You just sound like a salty nigger who keeps losing every other fight.

>>724778696
>kill dude
>wait for more people to show up
>kill them too
don't see the problem
besides skill issues

>>724773192
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2828860/The_Forever_Winter/
I think the short answer is no

>>724760286
Yes there is, there is personal skill in a balanced equal arena.

Extraction shooters are for no skill P2W kiddies

>>724779959
>>724780032
I wish I could chop you up then sew you back together so I'd have one giant retard to deal with instead of two normal sized ones.

>>724777034
This is the correct take. There's actually zero incentive to take PvP fights in this game. This is actually a major problem with the game and will be drowned out by the faggots complaining about getting killed in 10% of their raids.

The "fun" from extraction shooters comes from balancing the risk-reward of the strength of your loadout vs. the potential of losing it all. Tarkov does this well, but in Arc Raiders the risk-reward dynamic is basically completely absent.

>>724777053
>cringelord watching literal shounen anime
>thinks he is in any position to talk smack

>>724781530
>Tarkov does this well, but in Arc Raiders the risk-reward dynamic is basically completely absent.
Explain how.

>>724781886
he is talking out of his ass. if you spawn in late there is no reason to play nice other players have already looted the high value spots.

>>724781886
Not him but you can replace your loadouts with crafting, but its based on you actually getting blueprints. If you got an anvil blueprint in the first day or two you could be basically set since Anvil/Ferro+Sticher to follow up is what half the lobby is using.

Replacing really good shit in Tarkov, with all the flea restrictions, is a bit harder for the average person. Losing an Osprey should feel like losing a Vudu scope on a DVL or something.

>>724781886
Maybe the "end game" is different, but I played AR for the entire weekend and I made steady progress without ever feeling the need to use a kit that anybody looting my body would want to extract with.

A level 1 Ferro and a handful of shield regenerators is literally all you need to bring.

>>724761250
>AI is actually pretty smart and poses a challenge

How so? Examples?

>>724782143
Challenge nah
I think the pathfinding is incredibly good, especially for the flying units. Getting a bunch aggro'd on you at once feels pretty oppressive as you try to not die. They fly around building to find angles, smaller ones like Wasp will straight up fly inside buildings if the windows/roofs allow it. Rolling enemies go up stairs, the jumping leaper enemy all move really well especially considering the whole point is to take limbs/thrusters off and the AI move the best they can.

>Play earlier
>Find some guy stuck in a tree and his teammates can't get him out
>Whack him with the axe until he gets recoiled up and out of it
>Everyone has a good laugh and we say our goodbyes
>Nothing bad comes of it
Maybe your opponents have lying faggot sense

>>724775617
This. Its why PvP in MMOs are played by a handful of autist.

>>724763103
It's just a battle royale without a shrinking circle.

>>724784413
Yeah I think the point it can be fast/PVP heavy or slow and chill, and as a result of no actual WINNER at the end you get your own victory whether you died but got an item you needed in the safe container or just looted tons of quest items.

>Don't wanna fight arcs because it's loud, attracts more arcs and more players
>don't wanna fight players because it's loud and there is a chance they're running a dud loadout anyways
who's this game for

>>724778467
streaming and youtuber personalities are a lot more popular today, everybody wants to be a comedian and do roleplay for the chance to be clipped into a viral video or similar.

This game has the best use proximity chat I've ever seen. You can hear what floor people are on in a building, whether they're outside and their voice echoes.

>>724763103
played the closed betas and thought it was ass and boring. But since it was gonna be f2p, I didn't mind. Then they announced it would be 40 bucks LOL, hell no

>>724780403
What exactly can you buy to win in Arc? Nothing. Get good faggot or continue being my loot pinata.

This game has a huge Bladerunner aesthetic, no?

>>724787556
not really, see >>724775920
It's 70 sci fi closer to Star wars

I watched a video of this and was so turned off. My first impression is it's a misery simulator you spawn into some bombed out shithole and move around robots and people looking for scraps of shit which is all on a timed mission. It's like all the worst parts of other games made into its own. I just dont see the draw

>>724775348
Because you fucking moron, you burn through all his heals, shields and ammo by fighting, and if he fights back you burn through all yours too. Fuck you nigger, I bought a mic just to tell genetic dogshit like yourself you’re fucking inferior and god hates you.

>>724782046
a looting pack will give you an anus slot and it's basically free to craft, no real reason to run free loadouts unless you're a hobo with an empty stash

>>724789024
Losing anything I craft makes me extremely fucking angry. Last time some stupid cocksucking nigger killed me and I lost my two tier 3/4 guns and my mk2 combat augment among other things I just unistalled the fucking game. I HATE having to deal with pvp in a game where no one pvps you for 6 hours and then all of a sudden everyone's hostile and fucks you over for hours instead. It’s fucking stupid. Just let me hunt bots and loot and explore. These guns are dogshit and not fun to use or shoot, if I wanted pvp I’d just play battlefield. Remove it.

>>724789460
okay I'm sorry for triggering bad memories

>>724787201
This is why everybody "cooperates" and the game is ultimately just really boring and low-stakes. There's zero incentive to take any risks

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>>724758647
Don't you find it a little embarrassing that you got eternally obliterated by average person playing the game for 2 days?

Most people in solo are cool when it comes to extractions. It's engaging others at loot spots that causes confrontation

>>724770857
Tell me you're literally medically autistic without telling you're autistic

>>724788695
Nah I've had devolve the moment someone goes from hands away to pulling out a gun.

>>724788961
If you let him heal at all it just means you're a little baby shitter. Git gud.

>>724789460
I don't particularly mind losing stuff since my stash is constantly maxed out and organizing it every time I being back a ton of shit became kind of a drag

>Tactical 3 can use medium shields and has 3 ass slots, 16 real slots, +3 med only slots, +4 quick use slots
>Looting 3 can still only use light, has 2 ass slots, 24 real slots, 5 quick use slots
Trading a bunch of slots for an extra ass slot+medium armor seems worth it

>>724789957
Which basically situates it uniquely as an extremely casual friendly extraction shooter
Why does everyone extraction shooter need to be Sweatballs from Unemploymentov?

Dust 541 and SOCOM were better than this.

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I like this game because I love xploring big old abandoned brutalist buildings
I loved the Stalker game, and when I was a kid I literally dreamed of shit like this: going on the surface like in 12 Monkeys, take shit from a past world, and go back inside

I hate the PVP and I wish this was more a common effort, because lore wise different raiders fighting each other doesnt make fucking sense

>>724793396
It's ok, they're only knocking each other out.

>>724793396
>lore wise different raiders fighting each other doesnt make fucking sense
how the fuck does starving bandits killing each other for scarce materials not make sense

>>724794556
isnt the premise they all live together in speranza like a big underground family?

Idk man, the lore in these game sucks and the AI dialogues make it even more difficult to get immersed

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>help dude kill Leaper while in an elevator
>central part of corpse falls into the elevator right next to me
>loot the purple part and extract before he can even get in the elevator
He had a Ben Shapiro steam profile pic. Get owned chud

>>724794662
During Esperanzas introduction they did mention it was getting crowded/room was sparse

>>724794975
feels lame
I like the helldivers 2 "we're all on the same boat" approach

>missing 1 rusted gear for full level 3 work benches
Its crazy how I can have so much other resources but I've never gotten THREE of these in total

>>724795084
>>724794975
To me its more of a Metro 2033 situation where the city/metro is so big you can still have different factions sectioned off

I understand QoL creep can ruin a game but I wish I could just right click an empty quick use slot to automatically craft x5 bandages and shield chargers.

>>724795242
The game needs to just be where Tarkov is
>loadouts that when you select it, it auto crafts/buys the stuff
>right click interface on items need to be show in workshop, show in store, or even right click craft more
Plus other shit, it feels console-first

I definitely love the soundtrack

>>724794662
They say all the time raiders are feisty and not trustworthy and settle their differences outside the security of Speranza, dunno where people are getting this idea that it's one big reddit chungus family. I also think it's inevitable they'll introduce rival settlements as a plot device.

Things that are objectively good i feel are important. It feels good to play, looks good, runs good, and it has a strong presentation and sound design

>>724795426
ngl, I skipped most of the intro
that makes more sense

>>724795556
its a well crafted game, thats for sure
sound design is peak, I can hear other players, decide my route based on other people engaging with ARCs, and shit

level design is solid and very atmospheric,
I noticed I can see other people's footprints in the sand for example
also, playing solo is very, VERY immersive

>>724760428
There are PvE extraction shooters on the market but they're flops. The whole 'appeal' of this genre is psychos wanting to grief people to waste as much time as possible.

>>724760303
The smart tactic is to just watch and then clean up the bot/player that survives but is injured

>>724796810
>>724760428
evetually we'll get some meta strategy to tell people if you dont want PVP, like
>wearing green skins
or some shit like that, players come up with bullshit like that all the time

>>724780360
That game has a lot of flaws that have nothing to do with it being PvE

>>724760118
you can quantify everything like this anon

so what? play the fucking game and have fun

>>724796970
That doesnt work. PvPers will just take that as a sign of you not fighting back and target farm you. Or they will wear it and then shoot you in the back. Rules aren't followed unless enforced.

>the finals devs
>swedish cucks
>easy anti-cheat
lol, game is gonna be dead in a month

>>724758647
>fun for two days, lame after
Imamugen muha shock

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>all this shit upgraded but still haven't gotten my mushrooms for the bird

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>>724797230
You get your stuff back if you die to a cheater :)

>>724797323
Mushrooms are brainlet tier easy mode
Check the pipes at water treatment control in the dam
How do you kill bastions and rocketeers?

>>724797382
Honestly that is insanely based

>>724797990
Rocketeers move around too much for other throwables, it really was just using 2 wolf packs and loot it.

The rest, which includes Bastion, I just use Anvil with 80 ammo, and 2 stacks of non-basic nades. Heavy fuze, blaze, and the sticky one are all good. Bastions only have one attack which is the gatling so you just come out when it stops shooting. Find some good building to start the fight from and peek shoot take cover when its about to shoot.

Mushrooms aren't hard but it feels way more scattered, I usually just wait for the lush bloom event and run around buried city for baskets.

I'm already bored

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hoarders ww@
i spend almost all of my money on stash upgrades, send help

>>724758758
>skill issue
when you say this, your life shortens by one week

>>724797230
The Finals are not even dead though?

What future potential does the game have if they keep supporting it? Free content updates? They got the console market as well

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time to go for an adventure

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>>724799558
roadmap looking pretty good, new AI and evolving gameplay is super sick. just hoping they keep ramping up with more complex gameplay. there's a lot of puzzles in the game that havent really been explored i feel (blue gate facility)

>>724800362
are keys one time use?

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>night raid
>take my free kit
>beeline to the nearest locked room and wait

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>>724800362
what a score
also my key disappeared from my butt pocket so apparently keys are one time use?

>>724797382
If it goes anything like Delta Force they'll only do this for maybe 6 months to a year then they'll pretty much stop.

>>724774228
i just noticed this too, had like 5 toasters on my shelf

>>724758647
pvp games are dead, anti cheats dont do shit

Can you play this game on shitty hardware?

>>724763595
good question. honestly it seems like it depends on the map. on dam everyone is super friendly, but on some of the other maps i shoot on site. a friend who i've been playing arc with and i have been shot in the back a couple times after another group faked being friendly. i'm still salty about it

>>724801540
of course they are

>>724802015
that's a pitiful haul
I hope you didn't waste that key on a daytime run when night runs give way better loot

>>724775001
how is it "concord coded", what does that mean

>>724804014
you should just stop being a fag and start shooting people on sight

>>724803358
One of the only well optimized UE5 games

>>724803358
not shitty but mid runs it well. it recommends a 2070 i think. it's fairly well optimized

>>724804339
The Chinese are getting scarily good at optimizing UE5 games. This game, The Finals, and Arena Breakout: Infinite all run great on mid-range hardware.

>>724803358
I'm running this on a 10 year old PC with a GTX 1070 with 100 FPS, it's unbelievable

This game is overshilled and will be dead in like 1-3 months max. I bought it and played about 30 minutes before refunding it, I could immediately see where it was all about to go.

Also all the people talking about how cool the lame as fuck retarded looking outfits look is a big tell for paid shillers
>helmets all too big and look like a fucking costume
>all the outfits are just generic raincoats with some leather/straps
>niggers EVERYWHERE
>brown filter
>body type a b
>first racial selection is a brown ugly

>>724804613
*and I could put everything on Epic settings and would still get over 80 FPS, no fucking idea how they did this but embark are one of the most talented mfs in this industry

>>724758647
I alwas try to sneak up on niggas and go "Hey raider". I end up with a party of four constantly.

>>724804784
Itll be dead because people will run out of shit, I am already out of quests but its not like they felt super worth it

>>724804207
Some retards saw the Atari style rainbow and lost their shit. What no pussy does to a mf

>>724805081
That too and also I almost immediately quit out and refunded it when I started seeing chatgpt written dialogue. I don't even remember the line but I saw an em-dash and then it was "It's not just x, it's y with z" and I fucking lost it. What a piece of shit, not even worth $40.

>>724797382
Why do niggas cheat on games. It beats the point doesnt it?

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>>724804241
>stop being a fag and start shooting people on sight
i do, i even said i do in that post

There is almost no reward to engaging in PvP in this game. If you're not braindead and know how to loot, chances are most of the time PvP is just a needless risk you should ignore.

>matchmaking down
yikers

>>724806387
as it should be

>>724763008
>grenade armor off
>shoot off one of it's legs
>die to some guy because you were laughing so hard at the spider flailing like a retard without a leg
would die again

>>724798507
Thank you for the tips blessed anon good luck on your raids

>>724806701
I agree but most retards don't seem to realize that. Especially in duos, the default perception is shoot on sight and ask questions later. Storage space is so limited anyways that chances are if you're nearing an exit there isn't much more you can take, and in this game almost all loot seems to have some sort of value.

>>724780403
"Skill" in a videogame. Lmao. Go hang yourself already.

>>724807187
i mean that the game design should be such that it isn't advantageous to pvp
one of the many problems with tarkov was how advantageous it is to pvp, arc seems to have done a decent job designing a game where that's not a huge problem
also solo queue in arc is a lot friendlier because of this

>>724807439
Yeah solo games are better in that sense but there are limited abilities to squad up with another player so other players become sort of secondary in solo runs.

>>724789957
Everyone is cooperating because the game is new. Once the playerbase gets shit down it'll be a sweatfest (kino)

>>724807565
they need an emote to shake hands and actually join together as a squad which would remove friendly fire

>>724807572
there are enemies you just can't kill solo
you'll need a squad or to team up in raid to take down the big bois

Would mechanics to encourage peace benefit extraction shooters?
>walking up to another player and shaking their hand grants them comrade status for the round
>you now see them on the mini-map and if they're getting shot at you get alerts
>as more comrade pacts are made on the map PvE ramps up as does loot
>killing a comrade gives you some mark of shame that persists between games for a bit
>some kind of ramping up reward for killing players to give PvPers a reason for conflict besides the better drops off people's corpses as loot ramps up

>>724766791
people really like it when games swing between hot action and ample downtime. this is really apparent in mobas that swing between boring shit and teamfight brawls.

>>724773192
A lot of people like the idea of pvp in a open space/world but not the actual thing.

>>724758772
I drop solo with no fill to do my quests. Sometimes I'll do some rp in a funny voice and see if something happens, sometimes I'll just shoot em. Switch it up often.

>>724806687
Server is fucked but you can still somehow end up in games if you wait long enough. Would not recommend since everything seems screwy.
I ended up in a 3-man squad even though I had squad fill off.

>>724758647
So like every other Extraction Shooter?

>>724807774
The only thing I haven't killed solo is a Queen. Outside of Rocketeer you don't even need wolfpacks, and maybe someone has a spot to kill a rocketeer without wolfpacks but he moves around way too much and his rockets have insane splash.

Bastion, bombardier, leaper etc all easy shit.

>>724777256
Turn your monitor on.

Too many dipshits ruining this shooting you in the back while you're looting or extracting. It's more frustrating than fun to play.

>>724807860
Sounds really fun and innovative, thats why the obese tryhards are avoiding this post like crazy, because it would completely invalidate their gay fucking online posturing about how ebin they are for being niggers on the internet.

>>724807860
i think the ramped up rewards for PVPers you mention should be tied to killing those with the mark of shame
Like a multiplier on XP for however many marks of shame they have (3 marks of shame, 3x XP for killing them)

this would genuinely be more fun with a sperate PvE mode

>>724811098
>>i think the ramped up rewards for PVPers you mention should be tied to killing those with the mark of shame
lore friendly, game says raiders work best for a bounty

>>724810779
thanks. i've played hunt showdown, a bit of arc and cycle and every time i play a new extraction shooter i'm surprised they don't try to do anything mechanically to reward co-operation. maybe they're just trying to copy tarkov too closely?
>>724811098
this is actually really funny. honest bandits can be sheriffs on the side

>>724782632
I think the AI is neat and I do like how ARCs are an actual obstacle, instead of a stealth hazard like in hunt showdown. I know they're adding in this month, but I really wish they added those humanoid arcs we can see lying around in spaceport for example, something to patrol some interiors or such.

>>724807860
no fuck off, any mechanics policing what players do always inevitably and completely obliterates a community

>>724812154
They teased the new map in a youtube vid and a dead humanoid bot is the focus, they'll probably be zombielike threats for indoor sections, I'm not sure they're even technically arc, they look more like pre-collapse androids.

>>724758647
SBMM WHEN?

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>>724758789
>stop liking what i don't like
You're cringe and gay.

>>724808467
finding people to take it out with, or to protect you from griefers who will try to kill you during or after, is the hard part.

>>724813674
you'd still be able to betray people, you'd just be marked for it
plus being able to hunt betrayers like a bounty hunter adds another reason to go into a raid beyond loot and quests

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What does this mean and why doesn’t the game tell you? I have proximity chat set to open mic.

Right away this game feels hanky and unfinished.

>>724813990
a reputation system to incite PvP and teaming up would be too innovative, just copy Tarkov and don't ask questions

>>724814040
your mic probably isn't working or something
yellow is def prox chat status, and i think white might be party chat status
i have it toggle to talk and the yellow mic shows up when i'm toggled on, shows little audio semi circles coming from the mic to indicate when you're talking

>>724814159
there's nothing innovative about retarded peace enforcement mechanics in pvp games, they always ruined every MMO I've played

>>724797382
>shiet they be giving back the stuff I stole
you are dark, you are blacker than a sick dogs shit

they should make a pve mode. otherwise just play battlefield.

>>724802227
the finals just had an anticheat overhaul with both denuvo and anybrain, dunno how effective it is but they're clearly bothering to do something about it
arc has the benefit of a price tag so hopefully they won't need to go too hard on the kernel and cpu-hogging shit
why can't you niggers just stop cheating? it's a videogame

>>724814547
sometimes the game bugs out (like a few hours ago/right now when the matchmaking servers are literally under seige) and disables your mics.

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>>724814040
voice chat is fucked atm

>>724814040
ironically the game ran better during launch, they need to scale up the servers for a month or so. Im surprised at the growth im seeing on the playerbase.

steamdb.info/app/1808500/charts

all new highs.

>>724815359
Yeah, I thought it would start falling off but the number suddenly rose up even more and now the servers can't handle it, I can't even boot up the game anymore, there's like an infinite queue to get in

>>724796810
Like what? I've never heard of this fucking genre until this game came out. It seems vaguely interesting.

>press ESC to see a list of everyone in close proximity to you so you know when to rat

lol? why is this even a thing

>>724815041
It's the price we have to pay for letting thirdies on the internet because corpos wanted as large of an audience as possible.

>>724815526
dunno but in any case this ain't pve this is pvpve
tarkov also has a.i enemies and bosses so maybe he meantthat eastern european hellscape slop

>>724815474
>I thought it would start falling off but the number suddenly rose up
I don't get this type of prediction market autism, are you the ceo of this company? why do you give a shit? the game is clearly fun it makes no difference if it has 50k or 300k players to you as a player

>>724815719
>lol? why is this even a thing
so you can add randos you teamed up with to your friends and do a trio run after. of course weaponized autism will abuse this to tryhard pvp

>>724813235
Nah go in with a hatch key, then wait till the last 10-15m. There is only one escape left, and most people aren't going to poke their head out at you especially because they will prioritize escaping over stopping you. Meanwhile even if someone does fuck you over, you can still escape via hatch.

The most "boss" arcs I've killed in one run was a night trying to get the surveyor vaults. Killed 2 surveyors, a bombardier, and on the way out a leaper. Could definitely have saved nades from those surveyors and killed another leaper or maybe Bastion if my heavy ammo was fine. This is all before even getting a Hullbreaker which briefly using it does really fucking well against Arcs which is its whole thing

>>724815906
>It's the price we have to pay for letting thirdies on the internet because corpos wanted as large of an audience as possible.
you have no idea the absolute state of this game in EU servers with ahmeds and pajeets playing with female voice changers to hide their accent that gets them killed on sight is insane, they're two standard deviation iq below us to realize that if their name is AHMED233862 they're getting killed regardless

>>724758647
blue gear is only 1 percent better bro this is a skill issue.

>>724814695
What are you even saying retard?

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>>724758647
>Server issues and still breaking records
How are they doing it?

>>724816560
"in queue" is technically in-game since the process is open

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THIS GAME IS MY CRACK COCAINE I HAVE BEEN PLAYING NON STOP SINCE LAUNCH I CAN NOT GO BACK TO BATTLEFEET 6 I NEED TO PLAY THIS IS EMBARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>724816679
does not matter, the fact that so many people still try to play the game, even when servers have issues is mighty impressive

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ENOUGH WITH THE ROCKETEERS

>>724816873
It always puts a smile on my face hearing giant explosions in the distance, a rocketeer floating around a building, and a flare popping up

>>724816806
not really, since most normies will play a round or two and quit, but now they're doing something else with it stuck on queue and the numbers are growing

also, if you played this game you wouldn't be surprised, it's exceptional, shows the superiority of european culture over russian slop like tarkov

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>>724816873
boo!

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>>724775780
anon theres like 300k people playing

>>724816943
>also, if you played this game you wouldn't be surprised, it's exceptional, shows the superiority of european culture over russian slop like tarkov
Agreed, with this game embark cemented themselves as one of the very best studios in this industry.

>>724775780
disgusting rotting graveyard teeth, subhuman russian use your earnings to fix your shit

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egh

>>724762682
This. Solos is the better experience. Trios is for pure action. Which is fun too. But solo is super comfy.

>>724804613
Well thats about the same I got so damn guess I got a chance

UWEEEEEEE UWEEEEEEEEE

>>724775780
Tarkov will probably stay unmatched via sheer amount of content but man is it nice to have like 5 second queues, <15 seconds later I am in a match. The fastest queues Tarkov ever has is still like 2-3 minutes and that is a match of full SSDs, the moment you have a hard drive player that shit is taking 5 minutes if not longer

>>724763872
Do you understand how fucking retarded you sound?

>>724817298
yes embarg, this is exactly what we wanna see, a femoid giving us chatgpt slop answer and no concrete timelines or explanations! wow! thanks for all the gay flag emote btw

>>724817298
I love their communication, you wouldn't hear a beep from Activision

The giant spiders need to roam the map more, they're way too easy to avoid

>>724817565
that's because activision is a publisher and not a developer, but you wouldn't know, you're retarded and gay

>>724817298
is this a gay game? there's homosexual flag colors on the boxart.

>>724816403
It's pretty much over

>>724816873
Their little beeps are strangely cute

>>724817618
same goes for all their arrogant COD developers like Raven Software, Treyarch and Infinity Ward so fuck you, COD cock sucker.

>>724817565
I like how they didn't post anything on the Steam Discussion board.
It's filled by "zomg is gaem broek?" single post threads now.

>>724816873
>full bags of loot
>friend runs ahead and wakes up rocketeer getting us wiped
>blames me

>next run other friend does it
>close to extract so shoot it to get it off him so he can make it in
>he closes the door and leaves us out to die
>lol guys rocketeers aren't a big deal you just gotta dodge the rockets

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>hear some gunfire
>suddenly "BBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT"
>like 5 flares shoot out at once from that direction

>>724817779
>friend
>close the door

Either way, you can still hit the button while downed so there is no threat of dying to PVE at the elevators.

>>724817657
I'm actually torn about the story. it seems like DEI slop at first, since there are several niggers giving your quests. however, when you keep playing it actually seems extremely based, there are no gays, and it's a post-apocalyptic world where A.I took over, and there are no mixed race people - only niggers and whites. which seems to suggest people came to realize they need to breed high IQ individuals to survive, and kept the races segregated to keep producing high iq individuals. it also make sense you get quests from niggers, as they are basically warehouse workers asking you to fetch parts for them.

also, celeste is most low key attractive lead femoid since alyx

but most importantly gameplay is absolute kino

>>724817740
I don't like COD but it is undeniabley based since it gets little kids to think about enlisting instead of trooning out and dying in slow motion like you

>>724758647
The fuck are you on about? If anything Solos is a little too friendly

>>724758647
Karma is real.

https://xcancel.com/cizzorz/status/1984342862851686552#m

>>724817778
it's okay the terminally online gay trannies on discord are aware of the situation, they will disseminate the information in due time, first comes dialtion

>>724818049
dying for israel in a zogbot army isn't any better than trooning out, same tier of goy npc retardation

>>724818260
I'd rather do neither but still think fighting for jerusalem and raising a family > nuking your cock and balls and ending your lineage, but I guess I'm the weird one

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>>724817298
>troon flags
disgusting.

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>>724782632
I quite like the pathing too especially when they try to find you. They swerve around and look in bushes. Had a missile scout follow me close range as I was vaulting while the other drones hovered above which felt pretty realistic.

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>>724817298
can someone tell me what the trans flags have to do with the server outage?

is it worth playing if you do solos, squads basically guarantees you match with premade squads

>>724818706
Solo is pretty comfy honestly

>>724818702
Faggots are trolling

>>724818706
>>724818795
Its a nice mixed bag of friendly people, assholes, and people who might betray you if you flinch at them.

Solos has so many fucking people though, if you do get in a PVP fight the swarm will come

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it's over

>Concord breaks records as a catastrophic failure
>nexon panic mode since they are developing something similar
>bribe all the advertisers, max out content creation bounties for the game
>crises averted, money made, game can die now
People actually think this game is any better than Fallout 76 because they roped in naive chatters trying to stream snipe and roleplay.

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UPDATE: seems like only 41% of players are gonna be able to play tonight

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>>724818706
I play solos more like an action horror. I hide in bushes and shit and stick to the shadows. I kill usually when it's opportunistic as they fight drones or don't know I'm next to them. I usually talk and be friendly when we're near extract cause it's a hassle to lose everything as you're about to leave. Don't trust any shitter that spams the "Don't shoot" emote though, they always KoS when they get the chance so it's better to just take them down outright.

>>724818706
solo is funny and unpredictable, squads is just fortnite

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>>724818971
I'm already getting withdrawals, LET ME IN!!!

>>724819029
LMAO, some of you retarded niggers can be pretty funny from time to time

There is daily challenges to attack raiders so expect pvp to always be a thing to some degree

so squads tends to be mostly pvp and solos tends to be more pve? even though you decide if it's pvp.

>>724819126
I was IN but voice chat wasn't working so I restarted the game. now I'm stuck in queue reading they enabled queue to fix voice chat not working on their side.

>>724758647
Welcome to the extraction shooter experience, it's going to get much much worse.

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>>724819290
I have yet to complete a single one of those. They are like the only ones I don't complete because I play solo and everyone I bump into doesn't deserve it.

>>724819048
no mic, "don't shoot" baked in voiceline + female negro character + afro/braids = backstabber phenotype

reminder if you want to use a mic but have no mic you can use a phone.

https://wolicheng.com/womic/download.html

free btw

>>724819467
literally everyone i bump into shoots me on sight

I'm just going to keep running solos as a friendly until I get mad enough to start my villain arc

>>724819447
No it won't, unlike other faggot devs embark cares about their games and they already said they will keep a close eye on things

>>724819467
I played 50 hours and killed 10 raiders, it will happen naturally when you get backstabbed by a low iq noob then turn around and roll them. don't worry about it

>>724819559
DO NOT download any chinese ass "open source" mic apps, just connect your phone to your pc via usb and ask chatgpt how to set it up. thank me for not getting voice cloned and bank depleted later

>finally get through the login queue
>get downed in my first solo game
>go to quit back to lobby because the other player is taking his time trash talking instead of doing the finisher
>hit the quit to desktop button instead of the quit to menu
>have to wait in the login queue again
Fuck this shit. I'm refunding.

>>724819572
that's cause you play without a mic, hold your gun out and spam WASD to appear like a schizo avoiding headshots

>>724819718
100% refund if you played less than 2 hours and buy it again tomorrow when it's fixed. let them feel the pain for drinking champange and having gay sex instead of paying for more servers with the TENS OF MILLIONS they generated

>>724819029
welp, time to pack it up for tonight boys, it's Sunday and of course the faggots at embark don't work today. it's their special time to have gay sex and dilate while normal people go to church

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>>724819524
pretty much

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>>724820220
based fellow friendly raider of good taste