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>Raymond killed GFL 2
>Owen killed Chaos Zero Nightmare
What's gonna kill Endfield, Ananta, NTE, Azur Promilia and Silver Palace?
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>>724769171
I'm convinced those are bots from the competition
Also Arknights always had males
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>go snowbreak route
>alienate your global playerbase
>they stop playing
>bend over backwards to chinkcels
>rewrite everything to suit their narrative
>they still refuse to play the game
>EoS
a tale as old as time itself
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>>724769261
Wait, Snowbreak really hit EoS?
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>>724769261
you forgot the part where the game was going to go EoS BEFORE they switched direction in your copypasta, redditman
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>>724769261
Devs listening too much is bad unironically. The problem with snow break and wuwa is that they go full low quality manwha and characters don't interact between them and barely just exist for the mc. It's why Shin constantly drops a waifu whenever a new one comes while you can see in nikke, ba, horses or even genshin people still talking about a waifu 2 years later.
Nikke and BA got the right idea, those are still harem games but the girls actually get a lot of plot alone and have enough personality to hate other girls even
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>>724769171
They want to rewrite the story not only because of Owen but because it's a mess. It's supposed to be a depressed world but it has too many happy anime substories
>A planet just died
>Teehee waifus favorite candy gag
See?
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>>724769171
>Azur Promilia
yurishit and genshinified chinkslop designs
should have just made the same game but with the botes that everyone loves instead
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>>724769261
So true. They need to chase the cuckold audience. I mean, it worked for no one ever, but this time for sure.
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>>724769490
They should have just remade AL, AL girls still look great, just update the gameplay and make the story actually make sense, AL just keep throwing boats at you without telling you who they are while nikke and blue archive introduce you to girls little by little
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>>724769518
They could just make a good game and enjoy success for years instead of trying to appease haremfags who get triggered if one of the girls even speaks for a male NPC
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>Insane korean's think girls are real
>think that if a girl in a video game talks to a boy "THEY are getting cucked somehow
>by a made up video game girl
>in a video game world, that they are not part of
>this makes them insanely mad

Meanwhile, the English translation needs a lot of work, bug fixing needs work, and the game needs to be less grinding. Otherwise its a great deck builder....

yet it seems like there going to work on this korean owen mad nonsense first? ... the FUCK is wrong with gooks?
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>>724769171
>Gachashit
I hope they all die if they are gachashit
Ananta is not for self insert cucks
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>>724769261
I unironically stopped playing because of that
The premise looked cool and then it just became a coomer game
If I want a coomer game I specifically look for coomer games but they did the bait n switch
Quite disappointing
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>>724769261
>>724769312
snowbreak is doing better than ever
they added english and korean VA
more voice acted content in general
more fully animated cutscenes for the stories
and they literally doubled their workload by making 2 characters per patch instead of one AND THE 2ND ONE IS FREE. ALWAYS.
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How come /v/ only gives a shit when drama happens? Do you guys like videogames or are you a bunch of gossiping high school girls?
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uma GODS would never
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>>724769447
kys faggot
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>>724776252
what gave it away sis
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>>724769171
At least their audiences complain when shit goes wrong and don't bend over and take it.
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>>724769171
ananta has males already and isn't afraid of them iirc
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>>724776252
Gachashit is only entertaining when dumb drama surrounding them happens, or it's time to shit post over the latest monthly revenue charts
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>>724778003
>They happily accept the dystopian nightmare they live in where wrongthink gets you sent to a reeducation camp
>But they'll complain if their video game waifu doesn't worship the self-insert MC hard enough
What strange priorities
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>>724769171
Every game you listed except Azur Promilia is catered towards people who don't mind male characters existing.
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Imagine being intimidated by a fucking twink. Extreme small penis energy. No wonder everyone thinks your country is a fucking joke.
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If your "Owens" and "Raymonds" are so fucking great, important and amaizing, how come they arent main characters and (you) dont play as them? Better yet, how come they dont have their own games?
There is no such thing as """"""""self""""""""-inserting, its a fucking dei-made up buzzword to justify their subversive plants and persecute anyone who disagrees. Games are immersive and interactive fucking mediums, player cannot "self-insert" in there as he is handed the role and thrust into the place.
TLDR: whitto cuckku piggu, gow houm
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/t/witter
>>>/l/gbt
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We must be better gacha players...
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Chaos Zero Nightmare controversy explained
In summary:
>New gacha
>Hype themselves up saying they spent 40 mil USD, multiple endings for each char etc
>Some of art looks AI generated
>Tiny pecker handsymbol controversy
>Launch
>Players are admiral of a spaceship, but despite high rank MC is incompetent, contributes nothing, and constantly gets berated by rude female cast who are subordinates!(Reminder, Koreans are very sensitive about military hierarchy due to mandatory conscription)
>To add to the fuel, a femboy character-everyone's frens with him, girls flirt with him, until last chapter they do 360 and suddenly approach MC for no reason
>Users feel as if they're an observer extra and femboy is the main character-playing game is like sitting on a cuck stool
>Google Play Reviews flooded with obvious shills
>There's even more! Turns out JP and EN versions have different, normal dialogue where MC isn't tossed around like a beta
>Users dig deeper, find out story was OG planned to be Lovecraftian timetravel postapocalyptic horror, with in-depth game mechanics(the femboy was the MC's SON!)
>But devs found the story too complex, and bullied the writer(webnovel author) out of the company
>Director and female writers fight to take control of the storyboard(leak shows snippets of director's script, MC jokes about SexEd to a girl)-each side wants to link the main heroine with THEIR self insert(Slitty eyed villain vs the femboy)
>Result: half-baked plot made in 2 months
>After backlash, director announces they will rewrite game's story-JPN and NA users bewildered
>Claim the girls will romance MC only from now on, but in the official manga most romance femboy, and only girl who was nice to MC ingame gets BLACKED
sources:
https://m.dcinside.com/board/chaoszero/74228
https://m.dcinside.com/board/chaoszero/104446
https://m.dcinside.com/board/chaoszero/158812
https://m.dcinside.com/board/chaoszero/162576
Whiteys lies, as always...
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>>724782856
kind of funny how absolutely nothing affects storyskipchads
you'd have to be mentally ill to bother caring about the story in a GaaS
then again, koreans are indeed mentally ill
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>>724774374
>it just became a coomer game
the coom in question
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>>724782856
Honest question. If the devs do all of that, why not just quit the game a let it die. Why would you want the game to change so you can give them money?
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>>724782856
>women and their simps ruin everything
Why does it keep happening?
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>>724783349
>not even spoiling it
MODS
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>>724782856
why is every gook gatcha so fucking mismanaged holy shit
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>>724769447
>Nikke and BA got the right idea, those are still harem games
Some nikke girls are used goods/fuck other men and BA is entirely platonic. Gachashit where the game actually acknowledges the harem element isn't that common. Like, wuthering waves has the gathering wives meme but any romantic undertones are completely one sided, the MC does not reciprocate.
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>>724783206
The game has a skip feature for story only its disable until after first playthrough
The producer who dogeza’d on YouTube was definitely sucking himself off with that
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>>724783885
>forced reading
holy KEK now this is NTR
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>>724783885
well yeah, it sucks, but at least you can fast forward it
if you couldn't I certainly would have dropped it by now
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>>724783206
Gameplaywise, I hear the translation is fucking AI shit tier, like imagine trying to play Slay the Spire but none of the fucking key words are even standardized.

Strength? Power. Darkness? Night. Mist? Fog.
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>>724783762
east asia has been in a gender war for years. if you think western feminists are bad, you ain't seen nothing.
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>>724783206
If you're not interested in the story or characters, I'm not sure why you would play a gacha of all things.
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>>724784115
works in my machine
>>724784190
that's the neat part, I don't
I'm playing this despite being gacha, not because it's gacha
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>>724769261
>>go snowbreak route
>>alienate your global playerbase
why is this the case? is global gay?
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>>724781528
no wonder hoyoslop keeps losing popularity
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>>724781528
>traveler barely does anything
fucking kek
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nothing is wrong with the story. I have read CZNs story. Elaine clearly wants MC, Renoa is definetly in love with him. Mika and Rei treat Owen like a little brother (they want to rape)
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>>724784383
Even snowbreak had a few coping dingle berries months after the game had cemented its new direction.
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today I will remind them
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>>724769171
>Owen killed Chaos Zero Nightmare
What happened?
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>>724785330
schizos cant stop but think of being cucked
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>>724785276
leg day skipping ass
chicken leg having nigga
stickman looking motherfucker
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>>724785330
basically, women
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>>724785330
basically, men (with very small penises)
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>>724785276
Qrd
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Between Kratos in the new God of War games, the girl from Silksong, and now Owen in this gacha I've never heard of, is there any ACTUAL NTR in video-games or was NTR literally just invented by schizophrenic mentally ill incels like a collective hallucination? I don't think there's a single actual instance of a character getting cucked in a video-game
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>>724785641
play Bahamut Lagoon
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>>724785620
Snowbreak had a male playable character in the earlier betas. Had at least 1 flirty exchange with one of the girls. This was also back during the original story where the MC was just a hapless civilian that was just sort of dragged along and talked down to. Chinks didn't like this so it was changed.
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>>724785641
none of these fictional characters are going to fuck you, bro.
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why even make male characters can someone explain ?
is it worth the risk of a single slip killing your game
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>>724786101
Thanks, I guess? I didn't really want to get fucked by Kratos anyways
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>>724786205
It worked for Genshin Impact
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>>724769261
What EoS?
The games still alive
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>>724786348
The male characters in Genshin are cute sluts for MC this one steals your girls
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>>724786348
that's basically it. the chinaman sees all the money hoyoshit makes and thinks, I can do that too! Not understanding genshin was lightning in a bottle. Even hoyo hasn't been able to repeat the same success.
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>>724786205
devs would probably do it to appeal to women, gays, and maybe normies, but with the state of the market, I don't know why the would risk it.
Most normies really aren't threatened by having other males or think that having an entire cast of women sucking your dick 24/7 is dumb, insulting, or childish, which is understandable.
After hearing some of the shit that goes on in Korea, it's hard to blame them for getting upset at shit like this, however.
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>>724786205
Because not everyone is a misandrist tranny
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>>724769171
This game is so good, play it guys, I love how everything can be upgradable and change your builds of the cards, I just want 1 card game like this to survive. Maybe I'm still too early, but farming epiphanies for your cards and messing around with builds for multiple cards is so satisfying, any single player like this?
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>>724786205
>>724786958
I mean, I would never play a game with an all-female cast. That's just fucking cringe. But if you're in a market like gachashit, you clearly have no shame, so you may as well pander to the mentally ill coomers. It's like trying to tell a sincere story in a porno
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This guy slaps your waifu and smiles at you, what would you do?
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>>724787113
play Chrono Ark
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>>724786958
>>724787171
females(actual females, not troons) in asia make up a huge share of the gacha market, they paypiggie for their fav boys that's why genshin had a reputation for pandering to women only because women spend more
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>>724787225
Thanks, I had my eye on it a while ago but forgot about it.
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>>724786348
>It worked for Genshin Impact

They tried that with Sumeru. There's a reason why Fontaine only added 4 new male character.
If it really work, we would've seen more of the same for Fontaine, but we did not.

>Sumeru patch skewed the gender ratio from 30% male to 39% male
>Fontaine reduce the male % down to 36%
>Natlan reduce this % further down to 33%
>Flins is the first new male character in over a year
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>>724787209
a-a-a-aaaaaaieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee nooooooo ow-owen sama, please! my waifu, let me carry renoa, no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>724787209
rape him.
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>>724787580
There's still a big difference between 33% and 0%
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>>724787283
>females(actual females, not troons) in asia make up a huge share of the gacha market
Is this like that bullshit study that said females make up almost 50% of gamers?
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>>724787913
The "females are 50% of gamers" statistic isn't bullshit. It's because it's including mobile games. When you remember that gacha is pretty much the same shit as mobile games, it actually makes perfect sense
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>3 threads about this are up
Asking again in here because I didn't realize there were 3 threads.

>renoa is basically a main character so far and her deck from the trauma code is fun
>have to pull for her, because of course you do.
Does this 300 summons thing ever go away, or am I going to have to hope she just shows up randomly down the line?
I wasted 50 pulls thinking one of the banners thinking it was like the other gacha I play and it would guarantee that i get her after pulling 50 times.
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>>724787913
you're thinking normal women, femcels play these games. the korean genshin userbase in particular has a, gender problem, in male communities females are treated the same way trannies are in /v/ and vice versa
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*hits pipe*
The problem with male characters in gachashit isn't the mere fact they are male. If you think that alone is the issue then you're just a retarded normalfag tourist that's proud of his ignorance.
The problem with male character in gachashit is most of the time they are either fujobait or vehicles for a writer to shit on the male players. If male characters looked cool and stayed in their lane as characters, no one would care, and there are indeed gacha males that fit this bill. However, what kind of gacha male do we typically see? Twink niggas wearing eye make up in flamboyant outfits with hairstyles that look like they were done by a limp wristed hair dresser with the most pronounced lisp you've ever heard. That shit's not for male players.
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>>724788243
>in male communities females are treated the same way trannies are
As they should be.
Women are like muslims, they don't want to coexist, they want to conquer male spaces.
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>>724788706
>Twink niggas wearing eye make up in flamboyant outfits with hairstyles that look like they were done by a limp wristed hair dresser with the most pronounced lisp you've ever heard. That shit's not for male players.
are you sure about that?
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>>724788874
genshin is the posterboi for the twink faggot male epidemic.
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>>724788145
Renoa is busy man, don't worry about it, she's probably getting "teached" by Owen, perhaps when he tires of her you will pull her
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>>724787913
No. Anon is referring to Leftover Women with all the money in the world, but no children to spend it on.
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>>724788706
found the bara faggot
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>>724788967
could you give me a non-shitpost answer?
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>>724788706
What's wrong with fujobait? It's not for you. Just ignore it, retard, how is it actively detracting from your experience?
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Are there any actual ntr, misery porn game?
None of that schizo head canon shit
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>>724785641
The famous example that comes into mind is FFX, where seymour nabbed yuna, forced her to marry and got yuna's first kiss before tidus could save her.
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>>724789435
probably. and I'm sure it's japanese
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>>724789435
yes, go browse any h-game thread
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>>724789435
Thug Hero Party, it even comes with an extremely satisfying revenge arc.
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>>724789138
why yes, I am an avid zzz player. how could you tell?
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>>724789548
>>724789560
>>724789640
ntr gacha* sorry
thug hero is kino tho yes
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>>724783873
Nikke players understand that we must be better men and NOT interrupt their yuri time
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>>724789791
where's option 3?
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>>724789640
wasn't the ending of the revenge kinda shit?
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>>724789772
all of them
everytime you don't pull the character you want you are getting cucked by every other player who pulled her
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>>724789791
bisluts are hot, but the fact they don't give you the option to join is cucked
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>>724789942
Has your retarded woman logic actually worked on anyone?
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>>724789845
There isn't one, the first option is the one that gives you the most affection points btw
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>>724790134
uh oh triggered lil cucky
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>Owen
>Raymond
>Ling Yi
Why is it ALWAYS the Koreans that make thinly veiled NTR?
A Japanese gacha can have a straight up widow in it and it still wouldn't be as overt and strange with its NTRness.
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>>724789772
I feel there must be something for you in the annals of Fanza's adult games section, but that is an even darker road than mainstream modern gacha.
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>>724790234
>lil
someone is unaware of the absolute GIRTH of my bodily state.
stay ignorant.
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>>724790387
least insecure korean poster ITT btw
don't worry we don't want (or can) see your 1 inch peepee
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>>724790358
Afaik, There's a lot of fucked up gender war type shit going on in south Korea that is radicalizing a lot of people on both sides.
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>>724790358
japs love vile shit like nta and cuckoldry.
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>>724783873
BA is not just platonic for a lot of the girls. Fucking several of them say they want to marry you outright.
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>>724789772
check out Orisries, that was a fun meme for a while
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>>724788145
The 300 pulls thing is permanent.
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>>724790780
>several of them say they want to marry you outright
Does the MC reciprocate? Because that's the part that actually matters.
To use wuwa as an example again, one of the girls confesses her feelings to the MC in so many words but says she can't act on those feelings because your lives pull you away from each other. Does the MC have anything to say to her about this? No. They just stand there smiling while the girl talk at them.
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>>724791254
No harem has reciprocation though.
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>>724790721
Most nips live a fucking miserable lifestyle that leaves them so horribly numb to everything that NTR is actually the only thing left that makes them feel ANYTHING AT ALL, even if it's shitty feelings. Then again this is just speculation from a guy from Freedom land
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>>724791473
Your post confuses me.
If the MC returns the girl's romantic feelings, that's reciprocation.
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>>724791971
Harem stories whether they be in anime or vidya never have the MC lock in on a specific girl, or heck sometimes even reciprocate at all, until the very end. That's just how the genre goes.
Sensei never shows romantic interest in any of the girls even the ones that outright want to bone and marry him like Wakamo or Karin. Doesn't mean there isn't romantic elements.
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>>724776409
They already did with worst horse
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>>724779621
They can't change reality so they need their escapism to be good.
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>>724769261
They won't because they game already has male units. Anyone looking to play snowbreak like games (harem games) isn't even going to bother with this shit.
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>>724769171
Lmao
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>>724779621
It's not that different in the west tbf, at least koreans still fight over their hobbies
It's so sad how asian and white boomers are basically ruining the young people lives
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Pretty hilarious watching the western fanbase shit on the Koreans and Chinese every time they call this sort of stupid shit out.
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>>724787580
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>>724798534
Westerners want their games to be emasculating garbage. A waifu collector game where the self insert character is in the cuck chair is EXACTLY what they want, they're just pissed asians have the audacity to complain instead of just eating the gay slop.
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>>724791473
Are we ignoring that snowbreak exists?
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>>724799141
I love how they call them losers and all that shit but still are unable to leave those losers alone
Like, how empty your life is your only goal is to ruin lives of people that have nothing?
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>>724799761
It shows how spiteful the world truly is. The group of people that they call losers really just want to be left in peace to play a game that isn't reminding them of reality, but those assholes constantly have to intrude on their safe space and then wonder why people attack them in their own safe space.
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>>724799141
I think it's more that westerners go into those games expecting solid narratives. As if a self insert waifu gacha is where you should go for that shit.
It's what ruined Genshin and other games. Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole basically.
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>>724769261
>>724772341
>lies about game EOS when anyone can check the game still alive and well like anon mentioned >>724776038
Keep seething
>>724769447
>Devs listening too much is bad unironically
stopped reading here, what a faggot take. No wonder games in the west is full of woke crap
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>>724769171
>Raymond killed GFL 2
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>>724769171
>What's gonna kill Endfield
their devs, if they don't stop pandering to the hoyo crowd
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>>724786348
>It worked for Genshin Impact
It didn't, the reason why Genshin was successful was because it was a new thing that copied Breath of the wild and was released on the covid era. Now that normies moved on from that shit i don't even hear about genshin anymore
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>>724785276
>gets deleted before the game even releases
Ling-ACK
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>>724769171
All I want is a good game with waifu paint on it. Give me an actually engaging game-play loop, some plot progression every month, and cute girls I can waifu and dump all my attention into. Why is that too much to ask for?
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>>724800767
What did this raymond character do that caused people to get upset over NTR?
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>>724785641
Golden Light has a cuck ending
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>>724769171
>CZN has the best gameplay of any gacha i've ever played, genuinely a top five deckbuilder
>all anyone talks about is the devs bending the knee to korean schizos with relevance to the dogshit plot
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>>724779621
>Complain to your government
>Get snuffed for treason
>Complain to a gacha company that they did not cater to your demands
>The worst thing you would get is just leered by the opposite sex that would not touch you in the first place.
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>>724783349
>men only want one thing and it's disgusting
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>>724801626
is there a list of cards I can look up to figure out what to go for when building characters decks?
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>>724779621
As a westerner, you have no right to complain about such things.
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>>724783374
but they did quit
why else would the devs be doing damage control this hard?

if the koreans were spineless faggots like westoids then the devs would never have apologized and bent the knee
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>>724786205
It works in specific circumstances. The males can not be perceived as s threat to the MC and most if not all of them need to be sluts for the MC as well. Its roping in the gays and bi's nothing more. The moment they start feeling like a threat to the MC it blows up and that is very easy to do as many will literally count dialog lines and if they share too many with a specific girl it blows up.
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>>724769171
funny how nothing has killed genshin. it's invincible.
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>>724789791
This is the shit that gets them in trouble yet they keep doing it? It would be better to just not have that at all then to intentionally point it out and deprive the player of the option.
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>>724790358
Gender war. That's literally it. Its to the point that some of the shenanigans sounds like spy movie shit. Snowbreak literally had a feminist sneak into the company play the game until she was in a position of power and slowly removed other employees and hired her feminist collaborators. Then once they were in place in multiple different departments they tried to sabotage the game but completely rewriting and changing a planned update. With so many secret feminist all over they got it pushed out to release causing a massive shit storm. The devs pulled the release event and spent months trying to recover
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>>724798534
>western fanbase
it's mostly femcels, faggots and trannies
the usual suspects
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>>724800191
>playing skinnerboxes to escape reality
holy kek you fags really are losers
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>>724769225
This. But I'm also just as annoyed at gacha players. They only want one kind of a game (and I understand why). But holy fuck does it stifle creativity. If a game happens to have gacha mechanics then there is no room for character development outside of the vacuum of interacting with the MC. Gacha stories are shit.
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>>724790358
Don't know about Owen but Raymond was a nothingburger entirely made up by the chink leakers and Ling Yi didn't even make it out of beta so he's another non issue.
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>>724803505
you're a femcel "owning the chuds" on a mongolian basket weaving board
I don't think you're really in a position to call anyone else a loser lmao
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>>724803708
ANY gacha with rollable males will eventually have this cuck stuff
there are too many different fanbases pulling in different directions.

azur promelia will be the next successful gacha
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>>724804030
>doesn't even deny it
lol
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>>724804483
>doesn't even deny it
lol
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>>724801626
im not even mad about the story slop or having men in the gacha
its got a LITERAL bara furry in the pool among other things made for literal degenerates, they want the mentally ill fanbases so of course the fanbase is insane and ruins it
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>>724802971
Right, they are doing so well... >>724799064
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Westerners wonner
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What is with Koreans and cucking?
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>>724803346
You know those hags lives must be really miserable if your only goal is to ruin shut ins KEK
If they were happy and married they wouldn't do this shit
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>>724800191
That's because even those losers have souls still. You see money is pointless the moment you lose your soul. The older I get the most I realise how fucked up soulless people are. They are unable to DREAM or fantasize. Literally everything must be miserable for them
I can't fucking imagine being rich and my only goal be to spend millions to censor fucking pixels or to make sure the depressed 38 years old virgin stop looking at 2d.
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>>724769171
If the game is too shit to survive without being self insert slop for ricels then it wasn't worth being alive in the first place.
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>>724790358
FGO had an entire event revolving around all the women fucking their husbands instead of you yet nobody complains about it
It definitely feels like some kind of JP based psyop to hurt KR gachas at this point
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>>724809170
I think its just outrage addiction plus trannies infiltrating because they want everything to be yuri. Before weebs knew used to know where to find their own genre
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>>724809170
FGO is so old that it is detached from gacha norms that it doesn't really count in any kind of drama stuff.
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>>724769171
If you think about it, it makes sense that chinkcels and gookcels sperg out hard about getting cucked. It can cost upwards of $300 USD to pull for a single copy of a gacha character, if you're unlucky. ONE character (basically a DLC) costs as much as 3-4 AAA games. If you are "low spender" who wants a few duplicates of the character because it makes them stronger, that's $300 * 3 = $900.
Gacha gamers are LITERALLY spending $300-$900 when they are considered not spending much. It's no wonder they feel on edge at the slightest sign of cuckoldry. It's like if you went to a high-end fine dining restaurant, and you are not provided with cutlery before the food arrives. If you're spending that much money, you have certain expectations.
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>>724810060
If only they had brains and bought one time purchase complete games. It's a self inflicted despair for them.
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>>724809170
Fatefags are cucks, what else is new
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>>724809170
No it isn't Kim, Koreans are just mentally ill
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>>724810793
The problem is a game like this with characters like those don't exist. Or is in a mobile which those asian are playing 99% while they take the train to work.

>>724810060
>It's like if you went to a high-end fine dining restaurant, and you are not provided with cutlery before the food arrives.
You play for an expensive dinner, but you cannot eat it. Someone else eats it in front of you.
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>>724810934
Gacha gamers think that a male and female character silently standing next to each other is already cuckoldry, which is why I brought up a more minor inconvenience.
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>>724810934
>t-t-they don't exist!
uh huh
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>>724769447
any who disagree with this are mentally retarded
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>>724783349
>people will pay $20 in a free game just to "play" this 40 second cutscene with qtes
i should make gacha
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>>724784383
global wants actually good shootan gameplay. when they abandoned the thought of improving the third person shooter parts and went all in on selling to coomers the global audience went back to whaling on marvel skins in fortnite
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>>724781528
>how come they arent main characters and (you) dont play as them?
this would be a massive improvement to the games honestly. they need to get rid of the bland whitebread selfinsert mcs entirely and make an actual character the mc instead. like honkai kiana
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL6e8uF1pBs
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>>724808780
They legit want to install a matriarchy that takes away citizenship for men turning them into second class citizens that have to obey or risk death.
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>>724801626
You played one gacha?
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>>724803683
I pray for the death of gacha
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>>724811118
I already play chrono ark to hell and back I demand a NEW deck bulder and decapitation engine is so far out
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>>724769171
>Ananta
Sorry bro, Ananta protag isn't a silent cameraman like those cuckshits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLKQCylA30
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>>724819462
so its even more cucked
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>>724819529
?
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>>724819151
>decapitation engine
I would play that, it sounds metal as fuck but it's deception engine
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>>724788145
You could just reroll
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>>724819940
Ah... you see that makes a lot more sense but also makes me sad
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>>724769171
The Ananta devs already said every character live their own lives
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>>724821152
KEKED
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>>724769447
>while you can see in nikke, ba, horses or even genshin people still talking about a waifu 2 years later.
I'm dusting my Mona folder, she's getting buffed next month
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>>724772973
I like this dudes design
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>>724821152
I want to marry her mother and her father.
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>>724821152
Like mother, like daughter...
The worst part is that the super hyped "dating" system is just a bunch of generic dialogue, no actual romance. Well, it makes sense, considering the characters "live their own life", and that the game has a female MC.
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>>724769171
But GFL2 still alive right? that means CZN will live.
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>>724769261
Genchink femcel fujo cope
Meanwhile in reality love and deepspace foids are throwing another melty over black femcs not getting representation
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This is the first time I've heard of Ananta. What is the gameplay even going to be?
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>>724827195
GTA/Spider-man hybrid.
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>>724769171
>Owen killed Chaos Zero Nightmare
Qrd? Did it reach GFL2 levels of seething? Snowbreak?
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>>724817465
The fuck, isn't Korea literally on its way to being wiped out with the ridiculously low birthrates? What's the endgame of women there? They hate the men so badly they'll even kill their country and its future?
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>>724827431
AFAIK
>writer hired later and director bully original writer into leaving so they can have more power over the script.
>game's plot is rewritten close to release and is missing a lot of what was teased
>Game's script is supposedly somehow different in korea compared to the global release so the girls are potentially disrespectful to the PC in korea but not in global
>there is one teenage anime boy character in the plot that is a playable character, and the boy has decent focus in some chapters
>he gets to hold a girls hand and carry another girl to safety
>game has a scene where you basically enter a dream sequence and the girls ask your character to stay out of the way in a fight because they "doubt your small pistol can really do any damage anyways". The boy isn't even in this scene or this plotline.
>koreans get mad and say they're being forcibly cucked
This isn't 100% accurate, and part of it is likely just insane korean gacha players being insane korean gacha players, but they aren't wrong about a few things when the devs come out and admit the writing team was bullying the original writer.

TL:DR
Korean script different from global, and there is fuckery behind the scenes in the writing team so koreans are screaming that they are being targeted and cucked. take this with some salt.
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>>724827431
The short of it is that the MC either disappears from the story, or whenever he is around is so thoroughly incompetent all of his subordinates (he is the captain) outright ignore all of his orders and make fun of him (and not in the fun way Irresponsible Captain Tylor does it). In the end the MC gets turned into a cameraman without any agency or importance, because in the story setting there are a million other people who have the same power you do. In fact, characters without this power end up doing a better job, completely invalidating your position in the story.
To add insult to injury, most of the characters attention is turned to a little boy (Owen), who didn't really do anything bad but has a character arc in which every other character suffers a -20IQ debuff, so it comes out looking like he is the MC and you are just sitting in the chair.
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>>724785641
not sure if NTR or not but this nigga stole your sister whos in love with the (you)
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>>724790358
Chaebol interference. They are basically korean blackrock and most of them are women and those who arent - simps
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>>724827790
The people are literally too tired for children over there. Women don't want to work jobs, take care of children, the husband, and the household at the same time.
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Reminder that if someone somewhere says that women somehow in someway for some reason are draining light, life and joy out of something that some men find worth of their time and/or money, the chances are 99.9% that it is true.
Do NOT belive (((their))) >>724769447 lies.
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>>724827431
This was the launch day and they already let out such wet fart and even dripped a bit. As they say - one mistake and you have mistaken, no apology or revamp will change that and now will forever walk on the thin ice, having lost the trust of their home playerbase and favor of global
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>>724769447
>devs listening to users is bad!
this is westoid cuck thinking
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>>724827790
From what I can tell its a massive case of burn out. The economy is controlled by a few massive corporations that instilled an even worse work culture than Japan has. On top of that their government is controlled by literal cults. North Korea is always there being a cunt and their cultural values were destroyed by multiple occupations and then America moving in. Everyone just wants a fucking break and the only way they can see it happening is if they seize control at everyone else's expense.
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>>724800371
>I think it's more that westerners go into those games expecting solid narratives.
westoids don't know what a solid narrative looks like.
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we must be better men...
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>>724830678
Solid narrative does imply good narrative, but that's not what I'm trying to get at.
To use two examples from the same company even, it's the difference between a Stellar Blade and a Nikke. SB's MC and overall cast are characters unto themselves with interpersonal relationships and what not, while Nikke is a gacha so a lot of character interaction tends to fall back to and focus on the MC/you. I feel westerners tend to prefer the former. Quality isn't relevant.
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>>724809170
Everybody complained about them, dude. I was there when they released the original 5* Lancer Brynhild, and people were worried about the whole thing with her still seeing Siegfried in a somewhat romantic way. Then her interlude came out, and it somewhat (but temporarily) fixed this issue with her 1st interlude’s extra bio:
>"Brynhild sees Siegfried, a dragonslayer who shares the same origin as Sigurd, as a 'separate entity.' But Brynhild still feels close to Siegfried, often gazing at him passionately and trying to find every opportunity to be with him (and kill him).
From time to time, her love will turn to her Master..."
So people brushed it off because it was mostly platonic, and she was ultimately for the Master.

However, then came the (horror) summer event where they straight up paired her with Siegfried, and it was a shitshow with people shitflinging everywhere and calling each other cucks, sidehoes, or even third wheels to their relationship. Her popularity took a nosedive after that, and barely anyone cares about her nowadays.

>"What about Consort Yu?"
She’s always been for Xiang Yu from the get-go, so nobody expected much of a romantic aspect from her.

After this shitshow, FGO barely ever featured shipping between servants, and even if they did, it was mostly platonic and usually just a reference or callback to the games those servants originally came from.
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>>724828721
I think the game with cannibals, pedophiles, and giant naked flying babies has bigger issues than NTR
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>>724799141
Yeah, whitebois would turn nekopara and huniepop on sausagefest if you'd let them
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>>724830976
FGO is pretty much check the writer and if it's Sakurai then you just check the hell out.
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>>724785641
Library of Ruina, (you)r girl from the first game keels over for new, nicer, kinder, stronger and better guy in the sequel. The opening "open the curtain" meme song literally got lines about wanting to lie and sleep in one bed with him and in picrel end she wants to "write" a "book" with him. Game begins with turning people in the books and ends with turning books into people btw
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>>724830908
Westerners had no problem loving bioware's old rpgs where the MC was a person of special status that was treated with something nearing reverence. Hell, the MC of mass effect was so special, he was brought back from the dead to fight a war only he could win.
Westerners used to enjoy stories where the "self insert" was special and treated as such. Now they seem to want stories where the MC just just another NPC on the stage, or even go so far as to want the MC to be humiliated just because they know it makes the "chuds" seethe.
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>>724831610
top tier baitpost
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>>724831635
They used to enjoy it because "self-insert" wasnt made up yet
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>>724831674
Truth is the very best bait after all
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>he is here
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>>724831610
Your previous protagonist had no attachment to Angela whatsoever though. In fact he explicitly abandons her
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>>724831635
Used to is the right word
Maybe the issue is more about normalfags vs actual gamers than it is westerners vs easterners.
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>girl giving someone other than (you) attention
AHHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSAAAAAAAAANEE
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>>724831635
>Westerners used to enjoy stories where the "self insert" was special and treated as such
They still do, it just has to be hidden behind 100 layers of irony because playing something straight is cringe
Just look at wow, everyone who adores vanilla says it's because they feel like an average joe adventuring in the world.
An average joe who kills an elemental lord, ended the black dragonflight, killed an old god, and beat the lich king's right hand man. Just like any old adventurer would
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>>724831728
It was. So was was mary sue, but no one cared because people didn't play those kinds of games to be on the outside looking in, they played them to be part of the adventure via the MC.
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Endfield is going to die because half the characters are just Arknights characters but worse. Why would I play a game to get shittier Hellagur or Eyjafjalla when I can have the actual Hellagur or Eyjafjalla?
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>>724832052
>They still do, it just has to be hidden behind 100 layers of irony because playing something straight is cringe
I like reading amatuer fiction online and pretty much every WN I come across suffers from this. Its legitimate writing brainrot where the author is hyper aware of tropes but thinks pointing it out and being ironic means they can indulge in that trope. In one chapter the mc will be hyper aware that he is a knock off shounen harem protag and in the next he is getting cock gobbled on by the same girl he was mocking previously, its bizarre.
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>>724801482
He was implying to be a romantic interest to the national chinese gun, like the fucker could have picked any other girl and chinks wouldn't complaint but no, they went for the national chinese army gun that every soldier gets
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>>724831635
>Now they seem to want stories where the MC just just another NPC on the stage
No, they just say they do because it's the 'right' thing to say. Stated preference vs revealed preference is a bitch.

Look at BG3 - the normiest of normie games. 93% chose custom character for their MC. The most picked class? Paladin - the MC of classes. The most popular race? Elf and Half-Elves, the best looking races in the game.

People fucking love self-insert when they think they aren't judged for it.
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>>724831610
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You have to admit it's very funny that Korean devs have to go frame-by-frame through every animation to make sure no screenshot can ever show a girl's hand making a very common gesture when moving fingers around. But anyway the Korean women making fun of their men for having tiny dicks are crazy, too. Do they think their sons won't inherit their genes?
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>>724832797
>Do they think their sons won't inherit their genes?
iirc there was cases where kindergarten teachers bragged about putting chemical castration drugs into boys' food.

things are genuinely fucked over there
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>>724832605
>Look at BG3
I'd rather not. The only things I see talked about regarding that game is all the degenerate european "humour" and disgusting sex.
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>>724832797
Why you think they're intending to have children with the people they're mocking? It's Korea, who even has time to have children at all?
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>>724832797
>Do they think their sons won't inherit their genes?
lol korean women abort their male babies and proudly post about it on their socials. You really don't know how fucked gender relations are in worst korea.
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>>724833008
I mean that's exactly what happens here on America. Richfags like Musk abort their female babies over and over until they get a male heir and then brag about it.
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>>724833106
>eccentric billionaire entrepreneurs is the same as some random man hater
No, you fucking retard, that's not exactly what happens here on america. A feminist posting her aborted baby boy on x would be largely reviled, not met with YAS QUEEN.
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>>724833360
And what these men do is applauded with BASED AND REDPILLED in the internet here. No difference, really.
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>>724833497
what?
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>>724832924
It's literally a game westerners love to self insert in, and is recent. You can cry all you want about westerners, but they still do like to self insert with RPGs. You are trying to generalize too much.
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>>724833669
I'll have to take your word for it because, again, the only thing I ever see talked about are the girls and the degen shit. I've never seen the player character or story talked about.
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>>724833858
point isn't whether or not BG3 is good. point is that the very people who publicly say how cringe 'self-insert' is will absolutely self-insert the shit out of their game when they think no one's looking.

same shit with Sims, same shit with FF14.

anyone who tells you they love being a nobody MC is 90% chance lying thru their teeth.
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>>724833858
If you take out the degen shit, the story is you're some dude who got kidnapped by squid faces, escape, gather party members and save the city of Baldur's Gate.
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>>724834071
>>724833858
The biggest difference is, in BG you can still RP as a nobody never romancing anyone, never taking a strong position outside of the key story moments like dealing with the chosen three antagonists, and just listening to others. In the eastern games, you don't really get choices at all.
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>>724828721
Per the official canon manga she was fucked by some elf so used goods, so fuck her lol
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Are expeditions into chaos the best way to farm captain xp?
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>>724785641
Live a Live. One of the player character gets cucked so hard he becomes the final boss.

First Fire Emblem.

And of course, Crusader Kings
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>>724834683
>One of the player character gets cucked so hard he becomes the final boss.
He wasn't in love iirc but got BETRAYED by everyone because he was too good at doing his job
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>>724834683
>First Fire Emblem.
who?
I can think of a few in the series (like Deirdre in FE4) but not in the first game
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>>724834854
Fuck, I meant Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
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>>724785641
Strangely enough, the Sword Art Online game series. But in a very meta sense.
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>>724831837
Source? Or what character is this so I can look it up myself, I only stumbled across this thread at random.
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>>724835102
Sayo Ishmael from Limbus Company
Pretty popular request in /trash/ mines
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>>724834683
Fire emblem 3 has a major plot point of unrequited love, if that counts. IIRC Hardin politically marries Ninya, but she loved camus who fucked off to another continent and found a wife.
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>>724834942
>>724834854
>>724834683
"First Fire Emblem" is still right.
Anri, the legendary hero and brother to Marth's ancestor, is denied the right to marry the woman he loved because he was a commoner...despite the fact he near singlehandedly saved the world from the evil dragons all on his lonesome.
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Reminder that Azur Lane went cuckshit too with some commie commander that was loved by the Northern Parlament and that the Akagi plot shitted all over the (already lame) story
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>>724835030
>make story a harem
>but also make the main girl official in the first arc
what a weird series.
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>>724769171
>What's gonna kill Endfield, Ananta, NTE, Azur Promilia and Silver Palace?
factories(like zzz tvs), no males, gpu requirements
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>>724835264
If he breathes hes a thot.
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>>724769171
I don't understand these incel losers who are obsessed with fictional women interacting with fictional men instead of just teasing For (You) relationships in perpetuity because developers cant make any of them canon and upset every other girls fan, meaning none of them go anywhere.
Stories where the cast actually develop with each other are way better.
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>>724836687
It was a different time, look at Zero no Tsukaima, Hidan no Aria and most battleharem LNs
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>>724839302
>Game promotes itself as a harem game that lets you collect girls
>Makes your girls betray you

Hmmm. Like Arknights gets a pass if they do shit because they never marketed themselves in that way. But games that let you outright marry girls? They are asking for a shitstorm. Don't make a game for people seeking a parasocial relationship and then drop NTR into it.
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>>724769171
CZN fans do not open
https://litter.catbox.moe/lq8de5e10hqcwy5n.png
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>>724839884
Hahahahahaha hahahahahaha
So, are they getting rid of him like GFL2 and Snowbreak did with the guys that cucked you?
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>>724839974
I heard dev promised there will be rewrite, which I think will piss off remaining fanbase further since
>the mad cucks won't be playing again anyway
>those who did not mind are now having the story they liked rewritten
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>>724839974
>like GFL2 and Snowbreak
nta but czn is a way worse case than either of those two. In gf2's case, it was just datamined content during the beta. In snowbreak's case, the male and cucked story were killed after early betas. with czn, both the male and cucked story made it to release.
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>>724840057
>>724840181
But Brown Dust and GBF are still alive despite all the cuckshit
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>cast is 95% sexy girls right down to barely legal schoolgirls
>also throw in like dudes and a furry for the WIDER AUDIENCE
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>>724769171
>What's gonna kill Endfield
Devs listening to the Genshinfags into removing every element that sets it apart from Genshin like how MMO devs tried their hardest to remove any element which wasn't like WoW from their games to cater to the WoW crowd.
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>>724839587
>they never marketed themselves in that way.
Not only that, they've been making it clear that Doc is a character in his own right and not really (You), for years now(since Vigilo at least) He's hasn't been a blank slate for a long time and self-inserting as him that hard is retarded(unless you fantasize about fucking your daughters and grandaughter, I guess. Ditto Priestess fags).
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>>724821152
>Captain, all 500 bot accounts has been matched with Taffy
>The rest is up to you
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>>724836687
the game series is weird.

>introduces several heroines that kirito could sleep with
>in fatal bullet, you play as a new MC who could sleep with your own harem of OCs, but the previous games' heroines will now only sleep with your MC and not kirito
>in the follow up games, Fatal Bullet heroines return along with the previous games' heroines, all of whom now sleep with kirito

I really don't get the thought process.
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>>724776252
>How come /v/ only gives a shit when drama happens?
Because any time there's threads talking about gameplay fagmods come in and kill it saying "go to /vg/" and im not talking about gachashit.
so yes /v/ is curated to be this way
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>>724842250
They are (You) sexuals. They know the mask is only a mask and know when you are the one wearing it.
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>>724842575
Tendie jannies are cancer. Always saying a lot of popular games belongs to /vg/, when not have one of their schizos doomposting games they hate
No shit this board is fucking dead, even fucking niche games offend them
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>>724828721
the main character no way fagd the sister though, not NTR
>>724831230
>FGO is pretty much check the writer and if it's Sakurai then you just check the hell out.
female writer, we meet again.
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>>724769261
Going the snowbreak route is the most detrimental thing to do

I played snowbreak since 2.5 and noticed the RAPID decline in the gameplay. Even permeant modes and base minigames are barely updated.

The shooting is almost non-existent and just abilty spam and NO, fenny alt having a shooting ability dosent count.Snipers are disregarded and pistols, smg, and rifles are the meta

They literally abondoned the breakpoint and cover mechanic in their soft reboot.

The story is fine and servicable, just dont expect anything high or grand. Infact there is way too much buildup
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>>724802971
Is genshin good again? Im here lots of good things from the new place espicially if its !notrussia

I left playing after dragonspine



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