Isn't this, by definition, an indie dev?
>>724773558No, you have to release games and being obnoxious on social media.
>>724773558No, it's just a successful private corporation.
>>724773558Their first and most important game was published by Sierra, so no.
>>724773682It was necessary in the physical days. It's like how Pulp Fiction is an independent film, but Miramax distributed it.
>>724773558No, brainlet.
No. Generally an indie game has a small team and budget. It's not a perfect definition but that's the general gist.
>>724773558What? No, you dipshit.
>>724773558Their game dev work is dependent on outside funding (every user and developer using Steam) so no they are not independent
>>724774826Profit from their own game business isn't outside funding
"indie" are games made buy small group of people without excessive fudningValve games, and stuff made buy people who already have lots of money, be that nu-Hitman or Silksong arent "indie", they are independent>b-but theyre the sam-kill yourself
Indie games come from the East Indies, specifically India. That means every game made with Unity or idTech is an indie game.
>>724774658That's not what it means at all.
>>724776661No, the size of the team doesn't matter, and it's about external funding.
>>724776661>>724777681So was Doom 1 an indie game? Small team, self-published, no external funding afaik
To be an indie developer you have to make a video game
>>724778058They had Apogee help with publishing.
Dota Underlords was definitely an indie game.
>>724774658>>724773936>>724773631>>724774702Retards, indie has nothing to do with size of the team, budget or value of the companyIndie means INDEPENDANT, no publisher involved.They publisher their own game.>>724776661>small group of people Wrong, that's not a requirement at all.>>724774826You are the biggest retard of all>HURRR MONEY CAME FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT MEANS IT NOT INDIESo there's no such thing as an indie game at all because indie devs earn money wage caging?Indie games funded by Patreon and Kickstarter don't exist? Hmm?>>724773682So were iD's before Doom.They still self published Doom, that made it an indie game.Pic related, the ONLY requirement for a game being indie.
>>724778742>They publisher their own game.The first game they truly published on their own was CSGO
>>724778742>Indie means INDEPENDENTTell that to the music industry.
>>724778797Or Alien Swarm.Everything before was published by Sierra or EA.Counter-Strike officially launched as "Half-Life: Counter-Strike", because Valve had a deal with Sierra to release 3 Half-Life games.
Technically speaking CDProjeckRed are also indie devs.Indie has just come to be the stand in for something that doesn't comfortably categorize in AA or AAA now, it's also used as a genre type which makes no fucking sense.It's a magic word now.
No, you're by definition a retard.
>>724778742tendo is my favourite indie company :)
>>724778742capcom is my favorite indie guys
>>724777569Yes it does. Games like Super Meat Boy are indie games.
>>724779035>no investments>self published>not even publicly traded, unlike CDPR, Nintendo or old BlizzardHalf-life: Alyx was as indie as Undertale
AMAZON = INDIE
>>724778881Half lifes were published physically by vivendi/sierra very famous lawsuit occurred from that where vivendi said they will put valve out of business
>>724779514thank you 4poogpt
>>724773558valve has infinite money to fund their games
>>724773558Gaben invests in yacht and ship makers instead of gaming, that should tell you the state of things
>>724782212It's a more sensible investment, all things considered.
>>724782212what is there to invest in? his platform is as good as it gets and miles ahead of the shitware consoles and timmy shat out
no, theyre a bunch of teams inside of a publisher
valve is a developer, not a publisher, but they moved even beyond a publisher. theyre a tech company.
>>724773558no
