4 hours till embargo lifts! Can't wait till I can play on tuseday! Which country will you main anon?
>*crickets*
Tutorialtugal, but has anyone that made a video done any trade or economy? Everyone seems to automate and then go to war.
>>724780086>Which country will you main anon?The best country in the world with the most innovative and accomplished people, of course.
>>724780595Brandenburg or Teutons?
Definitely Rome. Restoring Roman lands is always fun in paradox games, and they should be getting a dlc early next year
behead streamers
>Release on a tuesdayWhy?
>>724780595Italians?
>>724780676The Teutonic Order is more prestigious.
>>724780086What about America Universalis?
>>724780779Nah.
what's the current consensus among people who have played?
>>724780595Game ends before this cancer was created.
>>724780894AtE is getting a port
>>724780595Based. Obliterating Poland as Prussia and then converting all of their provinces to Prussian culture is peak gaming.
>>724780595Sorry but if boobs are hard as a rock, then it will not feel good.
>>724780939impressive system simulation but totally broken AI that does nothing, pirate it and come back in a year
>>724780939It's literally the same game as EU4. And EU3. And EU2. And EU1
>>724780939Expansion seems easier than advertised but the AI won't do it. Rebellions are serious business.
>>724780086Can't wait to fight endless civil wars for 500 years and to do nothing else!
>>724780595Based. I have a seething about Germany fatigue desu
>>724781508dont worry. I've seen 4 reviews now and you wont even be able to get 50 years into the game without game breaking bugs
Why haven't they been able to make a good historical game since EU4? What went so right there, and why did they fuck up everything after?
>>724780595Of course bro. For me, it's Berg
>>724782647Paradox lost all the talent/programmers and are using engines they not fully understand.Eu5 will be imperator 2.0, all nations being the same, AI being very static.
>>724780939Everything about it is great but the AI is braindead and often fails to do even basic things like prevent the player from over-blobbing. AI improvements are basically a must.
>>724782845Sounds great. I don't want to have to think so much.
>>724780086Is there not gonna be a CPU benchmark? i'm never going to reach the end of the game anyway so it would be nice to at least know how many years I could keep going before I died>Which country will you main anonSomething in Japan, with the timeline pushed back a couple years most of my usuals aren't gonna be that fun anymore because you are waiting longer for colonisationmaybe i'll fuck with australia for a bit too but without some utter bullshit that's probably gonna be even worse than it is in EU4
>>724781207>>724782845This is most of what I've seen yeah. It has basically everything in place to be a fantastic game, surprisingly so for a launch from modern Paradox, but the AI is so completely retarded it subtracts from the overall experience immensely. I think it's going to take a LOT of updates to actually get things fixed on that front, it seems like they've spent so much time trying to flesh out the core mechanics and accuracy of the world that they forgot to actually tune the AI properly.
>>724780086So why tf didn't they dropped it before the weekend?? I can't wait anymore
>>724782845Which could be worse desuEu4 ai still doesn't understand Forts perfectly, forget boats
h-hello?
>>724784931I'm Swedish and even I couldn't tell you why they decided to drop it on a random tuesday. I'll be at work, along with everyone else.
>>724787116the studio it's Spanish lil pup
>>724780086I haven't played any EU game before, but a few paradox games.It will be shit at launch and all the DLC's will be a buggy mess, right?
*crickets*
>>724787116Games usually drop on tuesday or thursday. This is completely normal.
>>724792526Okay and why is that?
>>724792993Because I'm not working, suck it
>>724793470Nah, you are working
Hmm I'll "watch" arumba play it got no time to play it
I kinda ignore whenever people say a game is going to be super buggy, because I played Stellaris on day one for 16 hours straight and didn't encounter a single bug or glitch. And that was apparently one of the worst launches in Paradox history
>>724795162I watched alzabo, feedback, and red hawk and they all automated trade and whatever one next to trade.
Apparently you can't change the name of your country. Disappointing.
*dies from wait*
>>724782845>over-blobbingI've seen a jap play as Timur and reform the mongol empire in a few decades with his army piloted by the AI
>>724782845Why should it be a good thing if the AI prevents me from doing that? Do you hate fun?
>>724798580It's more fun if you have to overcome obstacles to achieve what you want. I've noticed one thing about my EU4 playthroughs. The more difficult the start was and the more things went wrong, the more fun they were.
>>724798580>>724798758Oh yeah and it's absolutely possible to do a WC before 1500 in EU4. It's just difficult.
>*ryukyu sounds*
Are we getting the deluxe edition or what?
BohemiaGonna go full Hussite
Its gonna be interesting to play in a few days. I'm looking forward to it being fun to play in 5 years when the actual release comes out. Teutonic Order or Poland. Prob Teutons.
buy the game chuddie, it's Johan's magnum opusanyway, whatever happened to that fantasy GSG Paradox was teasing some years back?
Where can I find up-to-date information on how to play this game? It changed so much from the dev diaries and beta.>>724800890There's no Ryukyu in this game. My first game should be to form that. How the hell is such a tiny little island a formable?
>>724780086its shit
this game will probably be unplayable on my 5700x3d
>>724801902Oh they canceled it when they realized their only profitable games were historical map painters. Hopefully they never get a Warhammer license because that ruined CA.
>>724780086>Paradox>HypeLoL. Rather lets about them remastering Surviving Mars, the game that came out basically yesterday.
>>724803096Anbennar works, can't see why a fantasy GSG would be a bad idea
I will wait for the byzantine DLC next year than I will make my decision.
Fine cloth has both wool and cloth as input optionsso, if I make wool, make the wool into cloth, then make the cloth into fine cloth, is that going to make me more or less money than going direct from wool to fine cloth?
paradox's biggest shill is shitting on the game rn it's over
>>724804283Who?
>>724804385the danish rat
>>724781207>broken AI that does nothingTime to do that stupid Ryukyu challenge
>>724780086I'll wait until 2030 and then pirate it.
>>724804637I don't think it's broken necessarily, it's just calculating potential profits over the money spent to obtain them.There's no reason to conquer anything if your control will be dogshit and only let you get 10% of the potential income.
>>724780086I can't be bothered to even pirate it.
>>724780086I'll wait until Tuesday and then buy it.
UI looks like dogshit, 3d models look like dogshit. maybe ill try it if theres a mod that fixes it
seems like aggressive expansion is fucking insane, probably why nothing ever happens
>>724805782Instead of punishing me for conquering territory, make not-conquering territory a valid game plan.
>>724780086>Nothing Ever Happens: The GameI'll just stick to EU4 and Anbennar, thanks
>>724805963Yeah enjoy your cookie clicker gameplay, because that's what you get here.
>trees are 2D sprites that rotate with the camerakek
>>724781207>>724784703i think you fucks forget how awful release eu4 ai was.
>>724806248reminder that we don't get terrain changes in the game due to how it'd be too hard for the 3D graphics system to handle3D graphics niggers make everything worse. We don't fucking need 3D shit, just have good 2D art
>>724806879Nah I want 3D and refuse to play it if it's 2D
>combat sucks>economy sucks >insane AE gain>nothing ever happens it's over
>>724806879>>724807224Why not just do it like Civ 5 and give us the choice based on our rig?
>>724807390what I'm saying is we literally lost a game mechanic so that crayon eaters could have their shiny graphics or whateverit's not just a menu setting, man
>>724806879>>724807224>>724807390>>724807582???There is a 2D flat map mode in the otpions.
>>724780086>All the streamers play it early except for meAm I really the only Anon that is against this digital cuckoldry?
>>724807815holy fuck are you ever stupid
>>724808175
>>724808175are you a streamer? Then you're either not big enough or fucked up
>>724808568> are you a streamer?No I have an actual job. Don’t like why streamers get it for the weekend and I have to somehow wait for a Tuesday.
>>724808839Then your sentence made no sense
>>724780086For a second I thought that was supposed to be a niggress with an afro
>>724809056I think you might be literally developing a mental illness from being on this site. Take a break for your own health.
it has been confirmed that it's over, sorry
>>724808983I know what your problem is but come on anon, I understood it just fine. He just meant streamers get to play it early and even show it to us and we have to watch and take the left overs once they're done
>>724809056Bro you said the same thing yesterday and it's still retarded
>>724809257Not really, between shit like Humankind and Civ six with the nigrgres mongolian warlord there was plenty of rational associations to form.
>>724808983I thought it made sense. The problem is you.
>>724809408>and we have to watchIf at least he said that but even then he's narcissistic enough to say "except for me" so he didn't even think about the rest of us.
>>724803096CA ruined itself, they never needed Warhams for that, thank you very much.
>>724809603it makes 0 sense as it implies all streamers except for him get to play it so he's a streamer. If he's not a streamer than the last part also makes no sense because it implies everyone in the world gets to play it but him.
>>724809626Okay fair point kek
it's over EU5bros
>>724810152I only watch my nigga florry don't care about 3rd worlder shitters
>>724809765You’re likely an ESL, I’ll give you a free English lesson.>Anon doesn’t like how streamers get first dibs to play>Anon feels like he’s the only Anon that is outraged by thisYour logic is obviously not Western, but you’re really showing your room temperature IQ. Why would he post “All the streamers” if it didn’t include him? You would be correct if he said “All the ‘other’ streamers” but he didn’t.The last part is him lamenting that everyone else seems to be accepting these terms and letting the streamers play first. Hyperbolic sure, but you’re dead wrong and can’t understand even Basic English.Honestly, your logic is just infuriating the more I reread it.
Does it need a better PC than victoria 3?
>>724810152Isn't this guy some retarded leftie who kicked one of their friends from their group they did because he was a pro Trump guy?
>>724810747seems like it which is fucking stupid but that's paradox for you
>>724810595bro did you just mix 2 different sentences into 1 and then dared to claim my logic is wrong?
>>724810870I don’t recall that drama, but I do remember him suing a guy over Polandballs.
>>724810870No he kicked him because he said nigger on stream.
>>724810924Bro, you’re just retarded.I can’t help you with that.I scrolled the thread multiple times and there’s nothing technically wrong with his posts.Again, the problem is you.
>>724810870no he didnt want to play with grisha whos well know zigger who constantly was looking for a fight and talked shit, making everyone uncomfortable in mp hoi4 games
>>724811085I never said his sentence is incorrect. I just said it implies he's a streamer and he's mad he didn't get to play early.
PolandOr some tribal nation (are these good now?)
>arumba is crashing all the time because of nvidia drivers thank you based team green
>>724811208So far you’re the only implying that he was also a streamer.
>>724811192I assumed he was talking about dressel, but yeah grisha was a total zigger who unironically joined wanger, streamed hoi4 from their headquarters and then cried when chief zigger got shot down.Actual mental illness.
>>724782845>Paradox made the game so complex even the AI doesn't know how to play itFunny
>>724811675Since you're clearly too low iq let me put that sentence into perspective. It's so sad that low iq people cannot understand basic logic and hypotheticals>All the streamers play it early except for me>All the germans get to leave work early except for meIs the poster a german?>all the niggers get to chimp out early except for meIs the poster a nigger?>all the jews get to eat foreskin early except for meIs the poster a jew?
>>724811781When expanding gives you no benefits then there's no reason to do it, so the AI does nothing the entire game. It's not that complex.
>>724810152this is the same guy who shilled and genuinely liked release vic3 btw
>>724810152>>724812037The only guy that I've seen in these streamer groups that didn't like it was Isorrowproductions and even he was just "nah this is too easy I don't like it." Which I put no weight into considering he intentionally plays every game with his hands tied behind is back for fun.
tommy likes ithttps://www.twitch.tv/tommykaylive
The Spitting Brit also made a video about it but am I the only one who hates him with a passion? His editing style with the constant cuts every two seconds drives me insane
>>724812246Don't watch the shill videos that came out yesterday, watch streams. Bokoen has been shit talking the game for 3 hours and Arumba was constantly crashing.
>>724804480Florry? What's his problem with itI thought he made a video sucking its cock
>>724812367Perfectly balanced editing. You probably drink coffee.
>>724812390florry is dutch, and that anon is refering to the snake of denmark Bokoen1
>>724812435denmark and dutchland might as well be the same country
Don't give Paradox any money, just pirate if you want to play their games.
heard you like civil wars
>>724812435Oh yeah he's Dutch my badLegitimately never heard about this Bokoen guy>>724812526t. pedophile
>>724812246I am watching Bo now and I cant really disagree from the gameplay he is showing. It is meh.
>>724812367I don't like him on the basis that he is extremely unfunny to me but thats subjective
Something tells me this game should have been delayed for at least like three more months
>>724812557Bokoen is the hoi4 friendslop player where they use crazy strategies like no army germany and then make funny noises to the mic when the meme strat fails
>>724812526buy the base game if it's good, pirate dlcssimple as
>>724812350>watching Tommy play a paradox gameMeh. His banner lord and other stuff is more entertaining
>>724811980How can expansion be meaningless?
>>724812350>1345>Constantinople already conquered
>>724812390Florry's life depends on this game. Then again, he is going to be working at the restaurant whether it succeeds or fails.
>>724812705That as well but I physically can't watch him
>>724789318It might be in a playable state in a few years with $100+ of DLC
>>724812705Why does it take twenty Germans to change a light bulb? Because many Hans make light work!
>>724812773What's the point of expanding when you get dogshit control over anything that's 3 provinces away from your capital? Land is genuinely worthless.
>For a second I thought that was supposed to be a niggress with an afro
>>724810152>Steam titleReally looking forward to the meltdown on Reddit and on Paradox plaza of all these virtue signaling cocksuckers when ukraine loses.
>>724813101any day now zister
>>724812942And how long until you can regain control of those provinces? Will they become happy if you build a sewer system so they don't need to hit in the streets?
>>724813154after the crimea beach party.
>>724813101>when ukraine loses.Its gonna be even funnier when its the Ukrainians themselves when they coup the kike and immediately surrender, since that is pretty much the only way this war is ending.
>>724813213Why spend money to increase control when you can spend money to increase money?
>>724813328So you either build tall or not at all.
>>724812918Good one anon
>EU5 defense league comes in to derail the thread with /pol/shit and get it deleted good work zisters
>>724813064Timmychads won
>>724812831>he is going to be working at the restaurantwait hes not a sailor?
>>724780086Paradox niggas will unironically look at this and go "yoo this gameplay is fire"
>>724813270I don't really know much about the conflict, I'm just tired of these faggots pushing their shit everywhere.
>>724813625Ah yes my favorite genre of games, million niggas in a spreadsheet
>>724812740sounds gay as fuck>countryball autismyep, gay as fuck
>>724813663well then maybe you should get yourself educated instead of getting irrationally angry over things you have no idea about
>>724812831I don't understand how anyone can unironically enjoy working at a restaurant
>>724813829No just fuck off mate.
>burgonet in the 1300sDropped.
>>724813595He is a bike riding waiter.
>>724813663Genuinely the only opinion people should have. Literally a conflict on the other side of the world being fought by people on both sides who should be rebelling against their corrupt as fuck governments instead of fighting each other. Yet instead, due to some weird as fuck Slavic mindset they would rather throw themselves into the meatgrinder. While for some even stranger reason. Retards completely unrelated to the war in any way make it their whole personality and try to pick a side.
>>724811980>>724812773Coastal tiles give more control, towns/cities give control, roads give control, all these things are good to expand to. Even if you don't want them you can easily spit out subjects who will dev it for you and send money because they have way higher control.
>>724813914Okay, just keep being a retard then. Can't help everybody.
>>724813663>>724814246Agreed nobody should be caring about the war at all, it's just complete nonsense love from ohio oblast
>>724814246Funny how you assume everybody lives in America.
>>724814495only people that matter
>>724814495>Dumb nigger gets told to stop having his life revolve around the Ukraine/Russia war and his first thought is too think of AmericaStop having your life revolve around Americans while you're at it also.
>>724815337Yeah hard to fucking do that when it's happening next door over you dumb nigger.
>>724781216Wrong. EU4 was all "mana" and "development" retardation. EU3 and predecessors were just railroaded piles of shit. EU5 actually attempts some simulation.
>>724815731>railroaded piles of shitEU3 is definitely not that lolThat game was all just random blobbing
>>724815731Some simulation as in 90% of the map produces food which is useless because pops will always be able to get it.
>>724815731>eu3 >railroadedlmaosomeone never saw a late game eu3 map ever
>>724815731EU4 didn't even have development outside of events for years.
Potatoshill loves it so its guaranteed to be another civ7 situationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDmnl6C3JI
>>724816454Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Spud-ACK!I remember when civ 7 drove him to suicide and he had some weird leftist rant how property and house ownership should be dictated by an all powerful central government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IpjlUznbhQParadox is shilling so fucking hard that this Japanese channel has a sponsored video tooThey make a kino video back in the dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26_zFtxiEog
>>724816582he sounds based
>>724816686Yeah he should've killed himself.
>>724816627they are shilling a bunch of b2 literal who chinks aswell
>>724816019should have made peasants do subsistence agriculture where they don't produce anything tradable and they don't consume almost anything
>>724816627It's fucking insane how they probably spend more on pr than on developing the game and then they charge people hundreds of bucks worth of dlc for basic features
>>724780939needs more time but already better than base version of the previous game…but then again that's what people said about ck3 when it first came out
>>724780939>Vic 2, EU3 and EU4 players love the game>CK3 players are positive but confused at the complexity>SoY4 players hate it
>>724813625Yes, I love spreadsheet similators.Except Aurora4x, fuck that shit.
>>724780086I'm so hyped!
>Paradox niggas when they finally launch EU V and it's just a unholy mix of Imperator: Rome and Victoria 3
>>724822449It's literally Vicky 3 but instead of magical communism saving the world you have magical peasants that will never starve.
>>724823360That sounds more appealing than Victoria 3 but not worth $300+.
>>724780595Based.But it's South German minor -> Bavaria/Swabia -> GermanyBrainlet faggot way is Brandenburg/Teutons -> Prussia -> Germany
>>724823445The asking price for the game is insane considering how unpolished it is. The way you play the game is idle for hours and just do nothing but micro the market stuff, if you put it on auto then there's no content. You can't even blob properly because you gain AE so fast.Meanwhile in vicky 3 you play an actual great power, and even if you don't have direct control over the military there are still things you can do. In EU5 you have like 3 cities and everything not within 1 province of them has dogshit control and might as well not exist. You sit on your ass and click a couple buttons but on a smaller scale.
>>724780086>>724780416>playing paradox mapslop yet again.
>>724812435>Bokoen1why are you talking about the yogscast.
>>724823968>But it's South German minor -> Bavaria/Swabia -> GermanyI have to try this. So far I have only created Germany with Teuton/Brandenburg and Dithmarschen routes.
>>724780916next time without italian?
>>724780086Cyprusalways play as cyprus, simple as
>>724824130It's pretty normal tho
I'll pirate it first and then buy it once it's dirt cheap.
>>724825512Vicky3 was out for months and was the same pile of shit at release as it was in the leak.
>>724824639"Next time without Italy." >>724780916
>>724825427It's not considering you're just paying for a "might fix it later if we have the resources" platform
>>724824518>Teuton/Brandenburg That's the boring normalfaggot way, everyone and their mother has done thisYou should try it, consolidating your lands in the south then clawing your way up north and beating Austria into a bloody pulp in the mean timeIt was frustrating in the early game, but forming Germany as Aachen was also great
>>724780086Between the timelapses where literally nothing happens in the world, the boring ass playthroughs I watched with the streamers desperately feigning excitement and the massive shilling campaign Paradox is doing I actually cancelled my preorder. Maybe it will be good in two years or so.
>>724823360>you have magical peasants that will never starve.peasants breed more than they die except during famine
