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https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/11/linux-gamers-on-steam-finally-cross-over-the-3-mark/
you better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone
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>linuxtards are being carried by normies using steam deck while unaware it is not windows
>meanwhile Windows is becoming more powerful than ever
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>>724783506
Surely increased visibility and marketshare wont be a monkey's paw for us...

>>724783596
The literal opposite is happening if you bothered to click the link and read.
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6.61% in the first world. This is huge.
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I got a pc and I spend as much time looking for fixed online as gaming. Would Linux make things better, since win10 is so shit? Or is pc doomed to be garbage for eternity, unless maybe ai will fix it?
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>>724783596
hello aqua jeet newnigger zoomer
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i switched to linux about a year and a half ago
things worked shockingly well for a while but starting about ~2 months ago nothing seems to work reliably
sometimes games launch, sometimes they don't. sometimes changing the proton version works, sometimes it doesn't. sometimes i get weird graphical glitches, other times i get inexplicable frame drops
i'm never ever going back to windows but anyone who'd tell you it JUST WERKS is a liar. for all of M$'s faults, at least this sort of persistent unreliability has never been an issue (at least until win11 lol)
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>>724783948
>looking for fixed online as gaming
you're looking for what?
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I just keep playing my favorite vidya on Arch while reading how shit Windows became.
>Bitlocker turned on by default
>Copilot
>usb doesn't work in recovery menu
>recall screenshots
>automatic OneDrive sync
>no local accounts unless you add the entries in regedit
>mandatory updates
It's crazy how huge Windows has fallen since 7.
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>>724783901
if it keeps climbing 1% per year, linux might have major influence on gaming by 2030
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>>724784086
If you gave some actual details about distro, proton versions, which game, and what you're using to run it maybe someone could help instead of being vague. Chances are you changed some setting somewhere we'll never be able to diagnose and just tell you to reinstall. You DO keep your media on a separate drive like a sane individual right?
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>>724784392
i'm not here to solicit tech support lol, just sharing my experiences with linuxgayming
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>>724784209
>>Bitlocker turned on by default
>>Copilot
>>usb doesn't work in recovery menu
>>recall screenshots
>>automatic OneDrive sync
>>no local accounts unless you add the entries in regedit
>>mandatory updates
All those things can be fixed with simple reg edits or opting out of specific functions/apps. I can guarantee you that you spent much more time preparing bootloaded and bootscripts and installing Arch that it would take you to disable all shitty applications and options in Windows.
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>>724784439
He wants the details so he can attempt to prove it's a skill issue. And this thread only exists to argue about Linux so that's kind of fair.
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>>724783506
Not so fast.
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>>724783506
the plan is to use windows 10 until no longer possible then we switch to linux
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>>724784476
>I can guarantee you that you spent much more time preparing bootloaded and bootscripts and installing Arch that it would take you to disable all shitty applications and options in Windows
I doubt that, considering I used archinstall which is like old Windows install but TUI instead of GUI. Just searching for solutions to those problems takes longer.
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>>724783506
>devs will start taking linux seriously just you wait!!
they don't even take windows seriously anymore
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>>724784562
I mean theres literally zero reason for software to degrade over time. Nonmoving hardware degrades at an extremely slow pace and smartphones magically lose half their performance after 2 years.

It can only be one of two things: user error, or game updates bricking something. If its an offline single player game then that narrows the results down. This isn't even a Linux specific thing, how often to jeet tech support lines just tell you to full ass reinstall windows at the slightest inconvenience with zero concern for what the problem actually is?
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i do have to say i'm always shocked by just how good Battle for Wesnoth is

before valve graciously decided to stick their dick up microsoft's eye it was always given as a pathetic counterpoint to "linux has no gaems", but it is legit one of the best turn-based strategy games ever made
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>>724784476
I'd say it's a deeper psychological issue. Windows has been on a steady decline since Windows 8 was released. There's always some shitty new anti feature you need to disable or updates enabling stuff you had disabled, it's a whack-a-mole game. This is a hole Windows has no chance of climbing out of. The days of looking forward to new Windows versions is over. Meanwhile Linux has become useful for gaming now, and every new software release on Linux is something you can look forwards to, just like old WIndows.
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>>724783596
The share of steam-os (steam deck) has been steadily going down actually.
It's down to a bit over a quarter (27%) from a high of 45% on April last year.
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>>724784209
I been using windows for years and never had one of these happened.
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i'm sure yet another layer of new bullshit will finally fix windows
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>>724785002
The graph clearly shows SteamOS is main reason Linux is at 3 %
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>>724784884
>open source
so what version are you supposed to play?
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>>724784564
>literally poor man's clone of Windows
I respect the autism of the project but it'll probably never be relevant aside from super niche use cases.
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>>724784564
Sadly this won't be good for gaming as it's targeting Windows 2000
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>>724784564
Did it finally reach Windows XP status? I love the idea of ReactOS but the progress is so slow I don't think I'll ever see it catching up
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>>724783596
>windows is becoming more powerful than ever
remember to say good morning to copilot everytime you turn on your computer sir
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>>724784476
One major (and valid) criticism of Linux is that it requires a person to read the fucking manual and fuck around with the command line until they get a working system. Now the roles have been reversed. Linux has been getting better and better for all use cases and it's easier to install and Windows requires people to read random blog posts and fuck around with registry hacks to make it usable.
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>>724785232
It was at the start, but not anymore.
Doing some napkin math, the total percentage back when steam-os was at 45% was 1.95%, it being at 3.05% now, meaning there has been an increase of ~56%.
From there we conclude that out of 156% (using april 2024 numbers as a base) steam-os currently makes out 27*1.56=42%, meaning that the relative number of steam deck users has slightly decreased, and the growth of this last year and a half(over a third of all current steam linux users) has been due to desktop/laptop users.
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>>724785193
>Hot it feels to open some Gnome shit on any decent DE
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My favorite part about my recent switch to linux is getting jumpscared by single player games making hundreds of random outbound connections for some mysterious reason. Maybe i'd have switched years ago if I had any suspicions about it back on windows.
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>>724786280
That's normal for Unity Engine games, it comes with spyware so they can tax the game developers properly.
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>>724783506
l m a o
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>>724785945
I like how people keep adding to this pic kek
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I no longer think this is s good thing. It'll just mske the proverbial Eye of Sauron shifts its attentions to an ecosystem that by its own principles is easy to taint and only survived on people's collective good will towards one another.
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>>724783506
I've been using Ganoo/Loonix for the past 10 years or so, and holy shit, there's nothing that's better than linux's DEs UX, I've got an mb pro m4 and why yes it is powerful, macos UX is just terrible, they want so much to be baby's first OS that they forget there's people who want something that allows you to be more advanced.
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>>724786280
You can block the Unity analytics domains and catch half of them. Of course an Israeli software company would have that.
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>>724786453
still needs to add the task manager memory leak
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>>724786543
It's already happened in the last ten to fifteen years, fren. Glowies are inside. You literally can't keep them out, and their divide and conquer tactics are (so far) totally unbeatable.
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>>724786981
why do you think they're rewriting everything in rust and changing the license?
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>>724783596
>Windows is becoming more powerful than ever
Explain how in your own words
I have serval tech certifications feel free to not dumb it down :^)
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>>724784209
Watching my friend demonstraight the CPU spikes from opening thr windows11 menu in real time was one of the funniest thinga ive witnessed. Im never touching windows as much as i can going forward.
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>>724787616
Ban evader's here, thread's over.
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>>724783596
Ah yes, how will I ever get by without copilot uploading screenshots of my desktop every 5 minutes while playing a game.
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>>724786080
>>724787314
He is technically right, Windows is becoming bigger and more powerful than ever. I know you think hearing people switch to Linux on gaming boards means they're losing, but it's not. MS has windows dabbing in everything now. Ever Tech company I've been at for the last 10 years using nothing but Windows.

It's scary
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>>724785965
The command line has always been easy. If you had some basic trust in your source, then you could just copy and paste, substituting where appropriate, because it localizes everything to just the command line, which cuts down on a lot of the cruft present in instructions by never forcing you to open new programs and menus with their own nested submenus.
>>724786543
As long as Linux continues to use and further strengthen viral GPL licenses, it's all good.
All progress can be acquired, all regressions can be ignored.
The eye of Sauron is already looking over here, there's nothing you can do about it other than add another +NIGGER clause to your license.
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>>724787798
You clearly never worked for anyone that deals with servers in a very large capacity.
Windows contracts expand as the market expands because Windows fits its niche; an OS for general-use workstations with a suite of office software.
But once you need something specialized that actually has to run well with no bloat or pointless features, no one is going to use Windows.
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>>724784476
>just fix it yourself!!!!
because surely normies are going to do that right?
why not install linux at this point?
you at least get to learn how computers work instead of coping and trying to minimise the amount of dick microsoft shoves up your arse
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>>724783506
I've noticed most linux fags on /v/ and youtube are just straight up schizo or blatant liars so I would rather not be lumped with you retards. My art pc still has manjaro gnome on it. But ive tried pop, got convinced to game on arch, manjaro cinnamon, and even mint. Arch is fucking awful. Its a buggy piece of shit 50% of the time and the answer to everything is bro its your fault, not the fact some retard uploaded broken packages. Manjaro gnome was great, cinnamon was ass. Mint dropped my iq. Pop broke in a month through no fault of my own (broke during update)
So I do my linux gaming on kubuntu now. Haven't had one single error, everything quite literally just works. So I just wont be engaging with retards over distros anymore
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>>724783506
I'm tired of people not understanding how steam hardwdare statistics work.
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>>724788313
Browns and other assorted low IQ individuals don't understand how statistics work in general
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>>724788283
arch is supposed to be a beta testing distro where things are supposed to break, that's actually considered normal and expected. One of the worst things to happen to troonix was the "i use arch" meme and people thinking this is the distro they need to be using since it's cool.
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>>724787890
GPL licenses are being overtaken in core parts of the distros every day.
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>>724788526
This.
I use Arch (CachyOS to be precise) because I think the AUR makes my life easier as soon as I want to do anything that's slightly niche. But I am fully aware that my OS is one update away from breaking. Maybe I'll be able to fix it, maybe I won't?
My install is now 5 months old and nothing has happened so far, but it's about the attitude.
Go with Ubuntu or derivatives if you're looking for stability. But expect some software not being up to date.
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>>724788118
The biggest cash register company in the country uses exclusively Windows-based POS systems.
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>>724783596
>a literal winjeet
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>>724788526
>>724789037
Why do you retards talk about Linux?

I've had the same Arch install since 2018 and have literally never even once experienced something that's the fault of Arch

Of course I've seen various upstream issues or changes from software but that has nothing to do with distro. Like it's not Arch's fault if Firefox changed something you don't like.

Arch is ironically the easiest distro to use and maintain, with the simplest package build system and no major releases to move between.
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For me, it's GNU/Mint.
>>724788230
Telling people to switch to Linux when they're happy with what they have is pointless and thinking otherwise is delusional, but yeah, to your point...
>>724784476
>reg edits
That registry editing shit is nastier than using a command line. The fact that people who are afraid of using the terminal are okay with registry edits is hilarious.
>>724787776
>post deleted
Based jannies??
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>>724789284
>i'm happy with what i have which is why i need to wrestle with microsoft shipping their shitware with insidious and evil defaults
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>>724789251
please shut up faggot.
Ubuntu exists and is the most popular one for a reason.
Of course it's not the "fault of arch" when something goes wrong because it's a fucking beta testing distro where you're expected to take care of things/prevent problems from happening yourself.
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>>724789121
Makes sense, Windows really is a POS.
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wayland drove me back to windows
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>>724789348
Well yeah, he is happy on Windows, which is why he's on Windows. I mean frankly there's no point in even discussing the concept of switching operating systems unless someone is saying "I hate what I have, please recommend an alternative". You're really desperate if you're trying to shill Linux to people who don't want it. Arguing for the sake of arguing is fine; this is /v/, after all. But he simply isn't going to stop using Windows. In fact, probably nobody's mind will be changed about anything in this thread. I doubt I can even convince you that advertising Linux to the Windows fan club is pointless.
The effort needed to switch off the Windows bloat and spyware (to whatever extent is possible) also isn't an issue for that guy, because he's already done the tinkering. It's done. In fact, not only is it already how he likes it, but now there's a sunk cost.
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>>724783596
>aquajeet
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>>724789414
You can't even install third-party packages on Ubuntu without installing binaries from a third-party repo

Ubuntu is also famous for retarded choices that goes against every other mainstream Linux

Mir instead of Xorg/Wayland
Snap instead of Flatpak/AppImage
Literal Amazon adware

I don't usually come into these threads because as someone who has been using Linux for 14 years I really don't like to hear all these misconceptions from retards

Arch is actually the EASIEST distro to use and maintain, no one else has a package build system so simple (try building a .deb or .rpm package), up to date and thus compatible packages especially regarding kernel and mesa, vanilla upstream configs, and no major releases to move between
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>>724789251
>I've had the same Arch install since 2018 and have literally never even once experienced something that's the fault of Arch
Damn I guess all those youtube videos, forum posts, and reddit posts since you're reddit spacing about shit breaking over updates or because of regular use cases over the last 7 years are just liars. In fact you must be some sort of arch god. Arch is so good steam had to recommend the most hated version of it manjaro
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>>724784819
so your game updates to a new build and you don't update anything else on your system? And you refuse to troubleshoot?
It really sounds like you should have disabled automatic steam updates.
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>>724790091
>steam had to recommend the most hated version of it manjaro

What are you talking about? SteamOS uses a modified version of regular Arch Linux, with a custom kernel and mesa.

The Valve devs mostly just use Arch.
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>>724789883
i don't think navigating GUIs counts as sunk cost fallacy
you learn how to navigate a desktop environment in like 2 days and that's literally what everyone that's buttmad about linux cries about
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>>724784112
I'm looking for fixes online, sorry.
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>>724790091
Nta but everything I've broken has been fixable.
Granted this requires Chrooting off a liveusb but it's better than the "Click repair and pray it fixes fucking anything" method of windows
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>>724790089
>I don't usually come into these threads because as someone who has been using Linux for 14 years I really don't like to hear all these misconceptions from retards
you're a virgin neckbeard that needs to shut the fuck up. No one cares what you like on linux. A new user's needs are not the same as yours, you retarded neckbeards never get this.
>>724790241
>SteamOS uses a modified version of regular Arch Linu
yeah they use a immutable version of it so the steam deck doesn't shit its pants.
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>>724788283
Manjaro is literally just Arch, but they hold onto packages for a week before pushing them, I don't see how it can be magically better than Arch.
>>724788526
Things on Arch aren't "supposed to break", and it's not "Beta testing". It's just not a stable release model, which can also be a benefit, since there's no fucking with migrating between major versions.
Arch is generally quite easy to use and most breakage can be anticipated by just reading news before an update, usually because you need to do something with GRUB.
>>724789037
>>724789414
Ubuntu is the runty middle child that no one likes.
It's a bunch of changes and bullshit grafted onto Debian, but without the necessary bullshit removal performed by whichever Ubuntu derivative is currently functional.
Debian is at least reliably shit and you can add additional package management solutions to it as needed.
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>>724790430
Right but that's not Manjaro which is Arch but all retarded and fucked up.
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>>724790241
Using arch & recommending something stable isnt the same thing you dumb illiterate tranny
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>>724790482
>Things on Arch aren't "supposed to break", and it's not "Beta testing". It's just not a stable release model
>it's not x, it's just x
>Ubuntu is the runty middle child that no one likes.
yeah that's why it's the most used one by far and it's not even close, no one likes it.
Please stop living in lala land.
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>>724790482
>Manjaro is literally just arch
Its funny how Manjaro users think this.
>go into arch forums
>someone having an issue literally no-one else is having
>walk through a lengthy process
>no reason to believe the user should even be having this issue
>"yeah it's weird I just updated Manjaro the other day and it's been happening ever since, but same same!"
>thread locked
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>>724790430
there's nothing wrong with immutability
it's basically a silver bullet to arch's problems
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>>724790635
I didn't say there was anything wrong, my point is even valve understands stock arch is a horrible idea for their system and people new to linux.
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starting to think people install linux for the sole reason of having something to argue about on the internet
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could microsoft just buy Linux?
like buy the Linux foundation and make it proprietary?
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Love how retards complain about Ubuntu not allowing third party stuff but you still have to enable flatpack repos in shit on steam ick on the deck that has the same if not worse telemetry than Ubuntu lmao
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>>724790696
Agree and disagree
Arch works fine on the steam deck, but if you have to account for the average midwit retard who knows enough to break shit but not enough to fix it, that immutability is key
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>>724783596
when you die, people will cheer
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>>724790614
Hence, why I did not recommend it. It just creates potential issues when running it with AUR packages.
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>>724790751
No. The Linux kernel is free and open source. There is no one TO buy it from.
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>>724786280
What should I do specifically to stop this without affecting performance?
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>>724790731
arguing is a consequence of having choices
nothing wrong with that
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>>724790948
Endeavor is babby arch
Manjaro and its Cunty devs are out of the running, nobody deserves "Arch but a completely incompetent midwit userbase and weirdly adversarial fag devs"
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>>724790250
>i don't think navigating GUIs counts as sunk cost fallacy
>you learn how to navigate a desktop environment in like 2 days
...?
The sunk cost in question is all the tinkering he already did on Windows, not the time spent learning the basics of the user interface. Even if he could learn Linux in 4 seconds, that isn't the point at all. The point (thought it's only speculation because I'm not him) is that he would be reluctant to give up on something into which he's already invested a lot of time and effort. Abandoning that investment feels bad even if it's easy.
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>>724784476
>all these new Microsaar innovations can be fixed by doing shit that people said were the reasons they would never use Linux
The absolute state.
>>724785965
I've been using Ubuntu and Mint for two years and haven't even opened the terminal except to fuck around with it. I even bricked my Ubuntu laptop and just fixed it the way I would a Windows box (rebooted in safe mode to fix what I fucked up, or whatever the fuck safe mode is called in Linux).
Admittedly I'm 40 and just don't have the ambition to perfect a daily driver the way I used to. But as far as I can see Linux fags are finally telling the truth about the just working.
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>>724791108
i felt relief after dropping windows despite nearly two decades of experience in xp, 7 and 10
if anything it fucking humbled me and made me realise how much of a dunning kruger windows gives you and i'm gladly accepting the babby method of installing shit through bazaar
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>>724790751
Only by Linux already being proprietary would the Linux Foundation have the ability to make it proprietary. Even if they can make some proprietary fork of it and say "here's the real Linux and it sucks", they can't revoke the licensing that makes every other version free and open-source.
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>>724791298
it's gotten so bad even jeets don't want to use windows to scam anymore.
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>>724791298
Wow, that happened 58 minutes ago??? Shocking
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>>724791298
Not defending India but it should strike people as odd that all of the world governments use a megacorporations proprietary Operating system with proudly admitted backdoor spyware. I get that it gives an illusion of control but it doesn't feel good knowing that there is a non-zero volume of computers in our intelligence agencies right now that have some kind of microjew spyware in them
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>>724791518
SAAAAR
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>>724791518
china, north korea, and iran use linux. I think russia uses linux on gov operating systems too iirc.
The other places like europe are just american/israeli vassal states so it doesn't matter to them.
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>>724784884
>some random game some autists have been working on for 20 years
Oh yeah, it's gaming time.
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>>724791518
it doesn't really matter because your spy department should be using a lan
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>>724791668
this something someone made up on /g/, hence why it doesn't have any sources. They didn't even properly color all of india properly.
Link me what site collected these numbers.
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>>724791656
I love obscure FOSS dorkshit.
Raising my kids on GCompris
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>>724791753
someone posted it on 4chan it must be real
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>>724791205
Ubuntu/debian should be outside in the hills because theres not a single Debian based distro i haven't tried where I wasnt able to play games within 45 minutes of installing
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according to this graph, linux is on a huge global rise, in more spaces than just gaming
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>>724791668
>painted usa in deep green to look smart
lmao at burgers
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>>724791668
how can something that's free have a market share?
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>>724783506
So the Steam Deck didn't really do anything to move the needle, huh?
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>linux exclusive
how does the world react?
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What I hate are the companies in charge of internet standards and also google.
There's no reason a hundred pages of static webpages open in my browser should eat up 80% of my RAM.

It's gotten so bad that when I play dota I get dropped keypresses because the system eats so much unnecessary RAM.
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>>724792010
I tell ya what, the steam deck has done wonders for troubleshooting getting weird shit to work. Having solutions on YouTube vs the blinding white and blue arch forums is quite nice
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>>724792134
first game to sell negative copies
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>>724792010
steam deck isn't a public facing device, don't you remember tendies harping on about its sales
the vast majority of windows users use whatever came with their prebuilt or a laptop, that increase is entirely people with top 20% tech literacy
you won't see big gains until valve pushes out linux devices that will be successful enough to convince those laptop and prebuilt makers and that involves them either ditching nvidia or nvidia actually giving a shit
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>>724792134
virtual machines see unprecedented use
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>>724792010
dotted line is a linear regression, not a differential
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so what's the best distro?
if Gabe made SteamOS for desktop he'd get mossad
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>>724792382
ublue
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>>724792010
>damn smdh my damn head steam deck really dindu nuffin off the top cuh
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>>724792382
bazzite for the training wheels, cachyos for steamos but you actually want to learn how to use your computer
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>>724792158
Regardless of how bloated web sites and web browsers are, having a hundred browser tabs open at all times screams computer illiteracy. Your PC is not a mobile device on which you need to jump through hoops just to close something instead of minimizing it. Bookmark the pages you need and fucking close the tabs.
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>>724792382
Best for GENIUS HACKING SUPERSTARS WHO ARE HANDSOME AND HAVE BIG THROBBING WEINERS EXCLUSIVELY FOR HOT CHICKS?
Arch
Best all rounder for retards and your mom who will somehow find a way to break everything despite only using the compooper for Walmart and amazon shopping?
Probably Mint, but I'd still urge you to at least try endeavor
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>>724792158
Seldom do you need more than 2 tabs
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>>724792492
>actually want to learn how to use your computer
>yeah bro just add a bunch of distractions and shit that impede your work flow
>you definitely wont distro hop in the next 2 months :)
Do retards really?
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linux is becoming too popular for my taste
how's freeBSD nowadays?
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>>724792910
Distrohopping is fun for a minute, once you realize your mostly sister hopping from downstream arch and downstream Debian it loses all meaning, most distros have very negligable differences, and the ones with major differences that remain downstream from the same source are usually full of baffling bad decisions(Manjaro)
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>>724790731
This, but not installing Linux for the sole reason of having something to argue about on the Internet.
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>>724792512
Nonsense. If computers have one job it's to keep multiple pages of information open to be immediately accessible without the constant need to be loaded and reloaded (which is what would happen if you merely kept online bookmarks).

This is almost its primary function before anything else. And it's not like the information is anything that should need so much RAM consumption. That's all web 2.0 garbage.
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>>724792910
what are you talking about exactly?
cachyos is meatier arch with better safeguards
you can tinker as little or as much as you want and there's basically no upgrading from it
base arch doesn't really provide anything unique for you and few people give a shit about the ocd and headache that leads one to install linux from scratch or gentoo
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>>724792220
We already had that with Epic paying thousands for EGS exclusives that don't sell.
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>>724793347
For arch fags the tinker just a little or a whole lot if you want meme is a blatant lie. There will always be some arch fag or youtuber screaming you didnt do it right no matter what flavor you use. Theres a reason arch fags never get anything done.
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>>724793347
Linux from scratch is a meme and not something people should ever use
Gentoo is just linux from scratch, but not a headache and a half to administrate
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Still not using linux lmao
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>>724793613
Cool, the less faggots like you using it and willingly subjecting themselves to windows, the better
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>>724786740
Vibe coded or not, how does closing a program NOT close a program in Windowsland?
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>>724793676
But linux is the faggot and tranny platform, you're already surrounded by faggots.
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>>724793758
My platform of choice doesn't put a fag flag in the taskbar for a whole month that I can't remove soooo
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>>724793813
>age old fag flag in taskbar cope
I can remove that, meanwhile loonix is deep in the fag mentality shit. you can't easily get rid of that.
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>>724794058
>mentality
Does this translate to a flag on my taskbar? I don't see one.
>b-but, the things that other people are thinking
That's fine. I don't hear their thoughts all the time because I'm neither a psychic nor a schizo.
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>>724794058
You can remove that until microsoft decides you can't
Meanwhile, if anybody does stupid shit on Linux, I just replace it with something else or dump another patch in /etc/portage/patches and call it a day
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>>724793758
it's a freedom platform that attracts autists that care about the things they use and that includes trannies and faggots
windows meanwhile is for the unfeeling unthinking cattle that just eats slop out of the trough
you tell a windows user to burn an iso to a flash drive and install it and they look at you like a deer in the headlights
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>>724793758
>>724793813
>>724794058
The only fag and tranny-free gaming platform is the PS5. If you're gaming on PC, you have to deal with fag shit.
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>>724794336
>PS5
Holy fucking lmao.
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>>724794336
KEEEEEEEEEEEKKKK, you know what? I take it back, linuxfags aren't so bad.
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>>724794336
I refuse to believe an actual human being made this post without a single hint of irony.
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>>724783506
I'll swap once it becomes practical
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>>724784476
As someone who debloated Windows 10 back in the day without scripts from random websites online and also set up Arch Linux manually without using Arch Install - it took me WAY longer to get Windows 10 debloated. It also took me more effort to make sure it actually still works after I'm done, because fucking hell did they inject UWP deep in that shit. Even the fucking calculator is UWP.
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>>724794336
https://instinctmagazine.com/survey-are-gaymers-more-into-playstation-or-xbox/
The data didn’t stop there. The Nielson gaming survey also found that LGBTQ gamers were more likely to be console owners than PC owners. 77 percent of LGBTQ gamers owned a console while 29 percent were PC-based. The majority, however, can agree that mobile games are not worth it. While 51 percent supported consoles, only 13 percent said they preferred mobile games. And which consoles were LGBTQ gamers’ choice? PlayStation led the pack with a 38% support from LGBTQ gamers. Meanwhile, XBOX had 22 percent of respondents’ support and Nintendo garnered 19 percent.
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>>724794358
>>724794387
>>724794427
>>724794565
Fucking prove me wrong retards. M$ consistently panders to fags and every distro's core team is filled with fags and trannies. Arguing otherwise is pure cope.
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>>724784476
BitLocker wouldn't be my first encryption choice, but on by default is good. Normalfags just need to learn to back up the recovery key.
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>>724794876
>p-prove me wrong!
Reality proves you wrong, nobody has to do anything to stop on your delusions. Shouldn't you be making a switch 2 seethe thread, little snoyger?
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>>724783506
If it gets over 10 percent with a dedicated steam box that sells well it's actually over for windows. It'll be a steady takeover from there, windows will try to reign back its anti consumer practices but it'll be too late. I give it 5 years. You can save this post
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>>724794927
Not an argument. Every company does pride shit, but no company does it more than Micro$oft

>>724794954
Kys nintenfag
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>>724794876
already did >>724794824
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>>724795079
kek, uh oh, the snoyboy is having a meltdown! I'd rather buy that overpriced fisher pice tablet than a gaystation!
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>>724795079
Where's the archlinux pride float
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nah im ok
been there
done that
no thanks

Linux sucks.
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>>724795079
Not to come to tendie defense but I don't think they participate in fag parades
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>>724783596
Deck is only 1/4 of the total numbers and it even went down this month.
>>724784476
Pic related
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>>724783506
>this is the year of the linux desktop

Name a longer running meme, I've heard this shit since 2003, these neckbeard niggers can't even make drivers work, at that point you are worse than jeets and should consider using AI or killing yourself
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>>724784086
Dude SAME
no one helped me in other threads. I don't expect any. Ac6 ran perfectly and I btfo iguazu. Now it's a fucking coin toss and I have to try every version of proton with vulkan, dx11 and 12 and maybe something will work but not satisfactory or peak. Satisfactory did for a bit then just fucking quit.
However I just hate windows 10 and 11 so much
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>>724795157
Typical nincuck cope

>>724795207
>Where's the archlinux pride float
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>>724795547
That's a user, not the organization.
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>>724794293
>we wuz nigger
>armchair Reddit university intellectual
>assumptions

Why are loonie troonies all retarded?
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>>724794636
It crossed that point a while back provided:
You build/upgrade your own system with an AMD GPU or buy a Steam Deck.
You don't play games that forcibly install rootkit malware designed to take over your system.
For productivity software you aren't stuck with a user-hostile workflow.
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>>724793676
Erm it all just werks on my windows machine doe
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>>724795547
Sorry snoy sister, you're not convincing any PC user, whether they be windows or linux, to buy a PS5. Not happening! Cope!
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>>724795587
>only I am allowed to make assumptions about you but you can't make assumptions about me
are you going to dispute that windows has cultivated a culture of unhealthily attached pseud retards who think they're pc experts for navigating a gui?
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>>724795612
>You don't play games that forcibly install rootkit malware designed to take over your system.
Damn...
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>>724795747
windows 11 doesnt run 100% of games either
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>>724787314
Not him, but it finally had a display manager that doesn't completely suck. Doesn't fix the fack that its stuck using NTFS though.
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>>724784245
You jest, but this is huge. There is not a single ad for Linux. Look up how much Apple and Windows spend on ads.
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>>724795885
>There is not a single ad for Linux
What is the Steam deck?
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>>724795747
We saw you the first time
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>>724795747
Yeah, nah. I couldn't run several games on my Windows 10 system without implementing workarounds. There's also one game I never figured out how to run, because it used to work years ago but stopped for some unexplained reason. Maybe if I dedicated a few hours/days to it I could have figured it out, but I wasn't gonna do that.
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>>724795885
Yeah I probably wouldn't pay money to advertise free software either.

>>724795950
Hardware
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>>724795718
>another assumption like a retard
>0 reading capability

Yeah shut the fuck up, get to work on a driver or some shit before you do a hero
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>>724795772
Windows:
>Googles fix
>Downloads some autistic's .exe
>Game works
Linux:
>Googles fix
>You gotta use this command line "sudo kernelstub -a amdgpu.dc=0
reboot"
>Then go to usr/lib/firmware/edid/ and edit the .conf file
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>>724783596
>>meanwhile Windows is becoming more powerful than ever
>*Bricks your harddrive*
Ah, yes, the power of PooJet QA in production.
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>>724795998
Whose sole selling point is being able to play any PC game on the go. With Linux.
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Linux has this massive problem right now where everyone has tried it at least once, and nobody liked it.
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>>724796013
maybe if you don't want to be judged as retarded cattle that needs shiny easy guis you should consider not calling everyone a tranny?
you can dish it but you can't take it
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>>724796068
that's not the command line it's the launch options you get in steam by right clicking a game
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>>724795269
Yep, Linux is the worst... except for all the other options.
NT has been going downhill for a long time with piss-poor performance and only maintains its position around 20% of the market because of Microsoft's anti-competitive contracts that they know they won't get called on.
Darwin meanwhile is stuck under the control of Apple who have it completely locked into their own hardware ecosystem.
Nothing else has been able to gain any traction.
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>>724796068
>"Running random .exes by other people it's the smarter move, actually"
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>>724796068
would you really rather run a weird exe from some forum than add a launch option to steam?
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>>724795513
I have weird issues no one helps with all the time. Retroarch psp runs like ass, ppsspp doesnt recognize my d-pad. These are all wut moments to me. When shit like my 20 year old network card, & old as fuck tv tuner work fine
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>>724796116
Nobody likes Windows either yet people keep using it.
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>>724795950
There are ads for the Steam Deck? Where?
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>>724796207
on steam
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>>724796116
90% of windows users can't burn a fucking iso and they think bios is black magic
this is a retarded take
the opinion about linux comes from a game of telephone caused by bitter winjeets whose expertise of windows starts and ends at the desktop environment level
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I genuinely don't know anymore if the concentrated effort to shit on Linux is just people having a laff or an actual shill campaign.
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>>724796115
Linux is not the selling point of the steam deck. If gaben could get away with an immutable windows version like iots and also didn't have to pay millions in licensing fees he would.

>>724796068
Yeah copypasting 1 line into steam (specifically has support for this feature for a reason) enables unsafe third party .dll loading
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>>724796068
It's funny how scary this apparently looks when all it's doing is allowing wine to load a hacked dinput.dll that contains the mod injector
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maintaining windows isn't economical for microsoft and they'd have already dropped the NT kernel in favor of a linux kernel with an emulation layer in front if the company structure wasn't totally deficient at producing a coherent strategy that actually benefits the company and not just the individual careers of specific people in management.
(there was actually a significant movement towards this within MS during the W10 days but then as things happen within MS, management changed after 3 years and someone decided that to build their career within the company, they'll need another version of windows)

literally everyone involved suffers for this.
cross-platform developers suffer because windows is much slower than linux (especially when I/O is involved) and because the entire windows API is stuck in the 80s.
developers at microsoft suffer because they have to maintain this steaming pile of shit.
users suffer because the software they use has flaws that are induced by the terrible API (which they obviously don't recognize as such).
the only people who gain anything from this is are handful of faggots at MS that can keep justifying their existence.
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>>724796451
I don't think gaben would, actually. Did you forget he's ex-Microsoft and left due to ideological differences?
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>>724792382
opensuse
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>>724796116
Only a absolutely tiny minority of users have ever tried installing an OS on a computer. Most users who make the switch for more than a few weeks don't go back.

Steam Deck, and anyone who has ever built a PC with an AMD GPU and tried installing NT on it prove the point.
You only get a good user experience with NT systems because they were built to run NT, and most of its users stay within the very limited set of things NT is good at. Ironically running win32 games is not one of them anymore, but most users don't question that.
Do the same with Linux, build the system for it, and stay within the much larger circle of things Linux is good at, and you'll have a better user experience than you can get with NT.
The only problem Linux has now for gaming is that NT rootkit malware has been normalized under the guise of "anticheat", even though the malware does nothing to prevent cheating.
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>>724796451
Yeah... I don't think Gaben would want to risk getting vendor locked into a Microsoft ecosystem. There's a reason nobody except Xbox uses Windows as an OS on their gaming devices unless they only sell the hardware.
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>>724784476
these are the people who call you a tinkertranny for using linux
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>>724796457
Enough people do not realize dlls are literally just exes.
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>>724797023
You'd think people would learn with all the times game mods have served as trojans. It's just a mod, it can't do anything my user account can do!
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>>724796370
>>724796731
Setting up Linux has never been easier.
>Setting up Linux has never been easier.

You are absolutely off the mark on this one. Everyone has tried Linux to some degree. Every gamer on earth who has ever wanted 5 extra FPS in a game has tried Linux at some point. The vast majority didn't like what they seen.

>Only a absolutely tiny minority of users have ever tried installing an OS on a computer.
Categorically FALSE, and potentially unprovable. This is a self-serving point you've made, built with made up speculations that suit your own view points.
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Reminder that despite having just 5.8% sales, over 38% of bug reports come from the Linux community
Linux is so fucking shit
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>>724797189
normies are struggling with the concept of FUCKING FOLDERS and you're arguing they installed an OS?
you don't live in the real world
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>>724797221
this is outdated. These days the bug reports would be going to valve/proton unless the game is going out of it's way to offer native linux support, but that's something you sign up for willingly.
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>>724797221
I'm trans btw if that matters, Install Windows
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>>724797221
Free playtesting? Sounds like a good deal for the dev.
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>>724796805
It isn't about Gaben becoming vendor locked, it's about Valve becoming self-hosted. I fully believe Proton is bait and Valve will eventually switch to their own proprietary BSD flavor. Don't forget, Valve bankrolls the entirety of linux gaming and the most important utilities use a non-free license.
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>>724797347
said no one ever.
now linux on the other hand...
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>>724791668
>>724791753
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-202312-202402
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>>724797221
deboonked
devs have stated that the linux bug reports are more valuable because they provide more info than just "doesn't work ;("
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>>724786280
What's a good network monitoring gui for idiots like me?
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>>724797221
>Linux community simultaneously has a bigger percentage of tech savvy users, more compatibility issues due to most video games being made primarily for windows, as well as a bigger degree in variation in distros due to the modular nature of GNU/Linux
Why is this surprising? Of course this will be the case.
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>>724797454
call me when you find the windows user that posted themselves with tranny socks.
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>>724797426
those aren't the same numbers, the graph he posted shows india having like 20% linux marketshare and the majority of linux users on earth, not 5% like what you linked.
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>>724797454
>right click
>hide search bar
>don't show internet suggestions
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>>724797313
I watched the birth of the home computer as you know it. Linux users want to live in a reality where everyone is too fucking stupid to install their OS but they also want to live in a world where they have an actual user base. How many minds are you really changing. I reckon very few if any at all. People are smarter than you think.
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>>724796159
It just werks on my machine doe, I don't act like a l33t h4x0rz redditard.
>GUI
Your CLI scripts don't even work to begin with, let alone the DE or the drivers or...
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>>724797531
>>724797426
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/germany#monthly-202312-202402
for reference germany has nearly the same linux users as india but that's not what his graph shows, because it's literally made up lol.
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>>724797531
That anon posted a downscaled image. The number on the legend is 15.18% which matches january 2024 perfectly
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>>724797569
>Anon has to hide his trans identity in his OS like he does in real life
Poetry...
It comes with your system of choice for a reason :^)
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>Half the thread is made up lies about Linux
People act like if you don't need 2-3 wrappers for old games anyway since we left old tech like dsound. You just need to do the literal same on Linux for those games. Win11 ltsc setup is literally harder than linux because you need vp9 and other codecs for current games from Winstore while on Linux ProtonGE covers 99.99% games. I grew up with XP, skipped Vista and it peaked with 7 but ever since 8 Windows is dogshit and anyone who unironically defends it is a retard.
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>>724797608
if they were then those ltsc editions wouldn't be so niche
laptops and prebuilts and windows home edition would have their market share quartered if your delusions were true
no, they're not capable of formatting a drive without a guide let alone installing an os
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>>724797662
>>724797713
Another one. Greece matches 9.91 perfectly
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/greece#monthly-202312-202402
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>>724795320
>can't even make drivers work
Works on my machine (with zero effort; I literally did nothing).
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>>724797189
>Setting up Linux has never been easier.
While this is true, if you have compatible hardware, most users simply will never do it.

>Every gamer on earth who has ever wanted 5 extra FPS in a game has tried Linux at some point.
Anon, that is a tiny minority of users. If you think that the majority of users have installed their own OS you're in a bubble of technically skilled users. Most users run whatever came pre-installed on the system they bought.
Even users who build their own systems, or are open to installing an OS, right now are typically buying hardware that has sub-par support for Linux outside of UNIX AI workstation tasks.

There is a reason why the Linux user base started to increase substantially in the Survey after the Steam Deck started to get counted. Because it was the first system sold with Linux preinstalled, and using the excellent Linux-exclusive AMD drivers to get traction for PC gaming.

Nvidia probably want to dump NT as well, but they have a harder problem because they can't make AMD64 compatible hardware, and most games are compiled for that architecture. Their deal with Intel to bundle their GPU with a Intel knock-off AMD64 die might help them, but their driver needs to catch up.
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>>724795320
nvidia is the sole party responsible for having shit drivers because they're selfish niggers
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>>724796370
>Grrrrr these wintards can't burn an ISO, use AI to code and don't know what a BIOS is

Will you teach me?

>no fuck off no spoon feeding skill issue cope git gud VVE MUST SAVE GATEKEEP CS -rm -rf

This is literrally the entire achilles heel of loonie troonies, when they learn to be humble and accepting, when they start to share, instead of shutting themselves in, they will truly flourish and blossom, there is literally no excuse and why IT niggers keep getting buckbroken.
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>>724797454
The mass of bullshit getting in the way and competing for your attention is the #1 reason I switched away, even with all the spyware crap. I use 11 at work and it's a pain in the ass to actually get shit done.
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>>724797474
Wireshark is windows
Opensnitch for linux (might be something better I just haven't looked)
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I like how linuxfags can't refute how fucking gay linux and linux users are so they have to obsess over that dumb flag in the windows taskbar nobody asked for lol
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>>724798106
every single newbie friendly distro will have instructions on how to do that on their page
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>>724798150
Buddy, wireshark is multiplatform and Linux is the primary target. Where do you think the whole pcap format came from?
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>>724798163
>flag in the windows taskbar nobody asked for lol
at least you admit microsoft owns you
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>>724798106
Use Rufus to burn it. What's there to teach? I'm sure there are instructions on the website for Rufus.
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>>724798163
if i was to choose the stereotype i'm branded with i'd rather be a faggot than a sub 70iq retard
of course, if you were smart and didn't live in some brown collectivist shithole you'd realise people are allowed to be individuals
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>>724798248
>Richard was my slave name, but now that I use linux, my true name is Rachel
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>>724796116
Most people haven't tried it, and I liked it.
Every single part of your post is wrong.
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>>724798150
>>724798227
Isn't wireshark for capturing? I just want to see which processes connect to where in real time.
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>>724798163
>He can't refuse his OS comes bundled with gay shit
>"wahh you can disable it"
keeek
It's on your system, it may come back later, and maybe someday you will not able to take it off
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>>724798106
>Will you teach me?
Yeah, step one: download rufus
Step two: run rufus
Step three: plug it into your PC then reboot and you can install linux now
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>>724797608
Because loonix tards don't see themselves as an average user or understand one. The level of elitism and reddit circlejerk bandwagonry is unreal with very neat excuses. They'll blame jeets, ai, normies, when in truth, they are the problem for themselves. Healing comes from within ourselves.
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>>724798106
>can't burn an ISO
>Will you teach me?
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/burn.html
Or if you prefer,
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install#create-a-bootable-usb-drive-to-install-bare-metal-linux
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>>724798374
Anon, you might be retarded. I'm sorry.
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>>724797384
Doing that, and trying to go it alone would put Valve at the same disadvantage Microsoft and Apple have right now. With a much smaller budget.

Gaben's funding is nice, but the people responsible for RadV, Proton, Linux performance, etc that have put Valve in the position they are, aren't stuck with Valve like Microsoft or Apple developers are.
All that work is open source. They can pull up stakes and move to wherever else there is a source of funding on their own terms.
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>>724797917
yeah that seems to be it, though I wonder why the marketshare in india went from like 15% to about 5% in just one year.
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>>724797940
Are u also trans btw
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>>724798331
Good one Anon. Did Copilot come up with that?
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>>724798552
No, and you should just go find a dating site that caters to you instead of asking on 4chan.
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>>724798463
windows users are so delusional that they think years of using a gui gives them an excuse to not read manuals and they throw shit fits over having to relearn a desktop environment
if you don't want to be mocked consider being fucking humble and patient for once
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>>724783506
>mutahar shilling linux to normies
>valve making steamos arch based
>dhh at 37signals making his own arch rice, deploying it company wide
>pewdiepie switching to linux
>windows 10 support ending, leaving dozens of perfectly good computers artificially antiquated
meanwhile...
>malware is appearing in the aur
>arch infra was taken down by a ddos attack, most likely someone trying to bruteforce accounts
>main xubuntu page hacked to serve malware
>bigger target for EEE

marketshare is nothing but a fucking poz vector and retards like you are only making it worse.

linux sucks and you all should stay on windows.
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>>724784476
The point is you SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FIX THEM. On a good OS none of this shit would be forced on you. I've been using win10 since a year or two before win7 support ended but the fact that I had to debloat the fucking install image to get a satisfactory result is not a good thing.

For now I'm holding on to win10 until I can be bothered to install linux.
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>>724798687
>Malware appearing in the AUR
is the equivalent of saying
>Malware appearing on the Internet
That's profoundly retarded. Yeah no shit that there is malware on the Internet. I wouldn't have known without you telling me.
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>>724798225
>>724798301
>>724798397
>>724798471
>RTFM
These are the most low effort replies, straight out of Reddit university. That's not how you teach.
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>>724798478
wireshark doesnt do what he wants THO
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Outdated
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No.
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>>724798482
>but the people responsible for RadV, Proton, Linux performance, etc that have put Valve in the position they are, aren't stuck with Valve like Microsoft or Apple developers are
That's true, but you're severely underestimating how deem Valve's pocket's are. Valve is the biggest name in PC gaming and a decade+ of being the only viable storefront have left them very rich. Sure, the devs *could* move, but I doubt any of them would say no to a six-figure salary.
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>>724798839
are manuals with pictures really not enough?
do you expect to have a mentor personally babysitting you?
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>>724798663
>let me give u some shit ai genned docs just figure it out alone normie

Maybe try being a better person, a better teacher?
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>>724793347
CachyOS has a bunch of tweaks that might give you trouble when not using the OS to only use a browser and WINE/Proton. The installation guide already warns against installing it on a VM among other things.
CachyOS is something you install after you get used to Arch, either as a new distro or by adding the packages to your Arch installation.
>>724793538
No one should give a shit about people who care about doing things the proper way according to everyone.
>>724797426
>>724797713
These numbers vary so wildly that they're basically useless. The numbers are also collected from hits and user agent reporting, both of which make Indian traffic analysis even more useless due to useragent spoofing being so prevalent to get around blacklists on random phoneslop.
>>724797384
Valve will not take an option that requires more work and maintenance. They want to piggyback and pay people whose time is less valuable than their own, because they're being partially compensated by the promise of 2B feet or something.
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>>724798839
You absolute fucking retard. If you can't run Rufus and know how to use it from the sight of it you're actually disabled. At that point RTFM (over and over) is the only option for you. You have severe learning disability.
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>>724798839
Really? This is too long for you to read?
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>>724795885
Nothing's a better ad for Linux than running Windows 11.
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>>724784392
it's because he's lying
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>>724797713
This is really just because the Linux based OSes that get counted as "Linux" by stat counter are over represented in India for whatever reason. Maybe because they tend to use older english-language distributions, or maybe it is because they hit english-language web resources that participate in the stat tracking.
Meanwhile distros used in countries like Japan tend to get counted as "Unknown", or one of the other categories Linux based OSes are split up into, or there just aren't many Japanese language sites that Linux users would frequent that participate in the stat tracking.

Meanwhile every OS that uses the NT kernel gets lumped into "Windows", even if it doesn't run on an architecture that lets it handle most win32 software.
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>>724798971
i have completely switched from 10 ltsc to cachyos within two fucking days and i have everything back as it was on windows, better even
if i was a retard i'd stick to bazzite and i'd be done faster
be humble and try to learn and you won't have issues
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>>724798793
>false equivalence
so guess the xubuntu hack isn't significant either because it's on the internet and technically there's been malware on the internet for ages, right?
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>>724798989
>Valve will not take an option that requires more work and maintenance
They would if it means becoming the Microsoft of gaming. Imagine the 1st gen steamboxes, but with OEMs paying license fees to Valve. It's a dream come true for Gaben.
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>>724798839
>nooo you have to write me an essay in your own words
Download some USB stick formatter e.g. Rufus, load the Linux distribution's ISO file into it, and click the buttons that make it go.
I hope this helps.
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>>724783901
Kek windows is already dead, once the open source option takes off it's too late to stop it
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>>724798951
For starters, (You) don't assume things when you teach someone something. You guide them by putting yourself in their shoes, pointing out anything that might be confusing or important. You don't have to be a step-by-step robot, you just have to be a guide, give them the 'nudge' they need, and they'll flourish more than ever, thats what education has always been about.

If that is too much for you to handle, you might be suffering from autism or any damage on the neurological pathways for empathy and understanding.
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>>724799259
I don't think anybody wants to be the Microsoft of gaming right now.
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>>724799180
I don't give a shit about Xubuntu. Maybe it's significant, maybe it isn't, but you deserve everything bad that happens to you if you use Ubuntu of any kind. I said nothing about Xubuntu because what I said applies specifically to AUR.

The AUR is literally a user repository where any fucker that has access to the Internet can upload shit. So yes, you're literally saying that there is malware on the Internet. Because every single site where users can post content has malware posted sometimes.
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>>724799297
You know exactly what I mean.
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>>724799128
What are some Japanese Linux distros?
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>>724798926
A lot of those developers have previously worked for IBM/Redhat, Apple, or other major companies involved in Gaming or High Performance computing.
I don't want to downplay how important Valve is for PC Gaming, but even the worst case "Valve gone bad" scenario isn't nearly as damaging to PC gaming as Microsoft or Apple's path currently is.

Valve has deep pockets, but even Apple and Microsoft as trillion-dollar value companies have been suffering from not having enough resources to go up against Linux where performance is concerned.
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>>724799006
>>724799165
>>724799267

Now try to do something similar with a more niche and abstract subject
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>>724799286
https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/Installation_Guide/Installing_Bazzite_for_Desktop_or_Laptop_Hardware/
go on, tell me the exact problems this guide has
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>>724799509
>Architecture: x86_64
wtf is this shit I ain't no mathematician
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>>724799286
You don't need a personalized education from a dedicated tutor to flourish at making a bootable USB stick. The correct education is a link to the existing guide for the distribution one wants to use, and if there's still some confusion not anticipated by the person who wrote the guide used by thousands of people already, then you can ask a question and the person who posted the link will probably answer it.
Asking people to read to you what is already written down is not education. It's actually rots your brain. Just read, mother fucker. Education is also about teaching the person to be independent, and a good first step is trying to read >>724799006 without crying.
>>724799498
>heh, you linked a guide, but what about something that doesn't have a guide?
That's not an argument for not linking the guide when there is one.
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>>724792158
>>724793286
Even worse the web just keeps getting worse. Every time a website gets reworked it's much worse than the previous version and you rarely get the option to use the old version. For example my bank just updated their web banking and now it has a disgusting mobile layout and is hard to read with important information displayed in a weird fashion that lacks logical consistency. They already have a mobile app so I don't get why the fuck they needed to ruin the website. I've been using it exactly because I hate the mobile app.
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>>724793286
Okay but if you leave 100 tabs open at all times then you are grandma-tier computer-illiterate.
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>>724799621
It's a type of CPU. If you have a normal modern computer, you'll have x86_64 (sometimes also called amd64). The only other type you might have is ARM which is found on Macs and phones and certain other meme laptops. You almost certainly have x86_64
/spoonfeed
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>>724799641
Your autism has completely overtaken your reply. You've completely brushed off the last point because you have no arguments. Why the fuck should a begginner care about the Qt framework? Or what a desktop environment is? It's not explained everywhere in the guide and is full of assumptions, not everyone on planet Earth has a CS degree and John Carmack in their living room for tech support. Step up, it takes humility to be a good teacher, to set your ego aside.
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>>724799498
>now change the subject
no
your problem stems entirely from the retarded assertion that staying on an operating system that came with your pc and going through a guide to install another are comparable
they're not
if linux was the default and you had to install windows off an iso it'd be the exact same fucking process
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>>724798839
Did you need a guide on how to post on 4chan too, you gigantic fucking toddler? It's literally the windows standard of "download program and run it" it's literally BUILT for retards like you.
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>>724784476
>just spend a literal hour (if you know what you’re doing) to unfuck a huge corporation’s product, you likely paid for
yeah nah may as well just use a basic bitch linux or steamOS then
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>>724800145
But it IS far easier to install Windows though, I don't have to bother with 3 million distributions and bullshit I'm never going to care about, it's streamlined and fool proof.
I accept you concession because you have no counter argument. Try to explain something more niche and abstract instead of rtm-ing like a retarded ape.
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>>724799313
either you're missing the overall point i'm trying to make or you're trivializing in bad faith.
malware in the aur wasn't really an issue before arch started getting popular. sorta/kinda how gang violence wasn't a topic in scandinavia before brown people started showing up there.
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>>724800471
>But it IS far easier to install Windows though
prove it
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>>724783506
Everyone that uses Linux on /v/ dual boot windows or have more than one pc
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>>724800471
>le choice paralysis help me niggerman!!!!
you ask people to guide you or you watch some videos about it because you are a person
imagine being so brown you want to be cordoned off into a monobuild
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>>724800243
>didnt read the guide
>immediatelly sperging like an autistic retard
You need to be patient and understanding, remember? ChatGPT never told me no or refused to elaborate in it's own words.
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>>724800471
Anon, you have to spend more time debloating Windows than installing Linux.
>b-but muh 10 LTSC
You know it's not going to last forever, right?
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>>724800584
You are right, I do have a dual boot and a laptop.
But I haven't booted into Window in many months and I don't want to update it.
And the laptop is running Mint.
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>>724800584
my win10ltsc partition has seen less than 20 minutes of use last month
and it's not dual booting, i have it installed on an old ssd i bought in 2018
having a second os tucked away is a great practice in general
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>>724800584
Yeah, you got me. I have more than one PC.
They all run exclusively Linux.
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>>724800471
I just installed Mint recently on my parents PC and its literally 4 clicks and putting in a username for the PC (eg: "Home" or "Work" w/e)
>It asks you to select a language
>Asks if you want to format and install on the current drive
>Optional "advanced" setting for partitions and whatnot like windows does
>Asks if you want to use your internet connection if it detects one to download the latest packages that didn't come with your boot usb/disk
And then you just sit there for 10 minutes looking at this screen while it installs then its done
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>>724799259
>Gets saddled with ongoing maintenance costs for something that would almost certainly be a complete one-off, when the alternative that has mostly the same outcome would be just doing nothing.
>Also get in trouble with the darling of America's three letter agencies, embroiling them in yet more sabotage and IP disputes in court
Unlikely.
Valve isn't publicly traded, they don't have to fall on a stupid sword that won't get them anything and they've frequently backed out of anything that would leave them holding a bag in the past.
>>724800584
>Has more than one PC
Yes
>Dual boots
Nah, the pci passthrough VM cuckbox is a better spot for Windows.
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>>724800696
10 LTSC is also niche in the sea of 3 million Windows distributions.
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>>724800637
>erm just spend 30 million years tinkering with every OS until you choose some shit
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Fuck you Linux troons are obsessed with pushing a narrative that any day now Linux will take over the desktop.
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>>724800869
>30 million years
hey guys i'm a gamer and i have no idea how linux works
>get bazzite or mint
ok thanks guys!!!!
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>>724784476
That's all fine, but the Linux Terminal is scawy?
Bawwwwwww
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>>724799419
Last I knew they tended to be running distributions like Gentoo, Slackware, or Arch that Stat Counter tends to identify as "ChromeOS" or "Unknown".
But that's a self-selected group of PC Enthusiasts. As with most of the rest of the world a lot of Linux distributions get counted as "not desktop" and tossed into the "Android" bin, even if the system they're used on has a keyboard and mouse.
Only a very small number of the most mainstream desktop distributions like Ubuntu, or Redhat are identified as "Linux". Statcounter may not even identify Ubuntu or Redhat re-spins like Mint or Bazzite as "Linux".

Meanwhile ARM tablets running NT get counted as desktop systems. Statcounter really isn't very good with their category distinctions.
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>>724800508
Ok, do you even know what the AUR is? AUR is not part of Arch, it's an user repository for pkgbuilds. You don't use AUR for Arch, it isn't a component. In fact, it is a total pain in the ass to use (without a helper tool) and it isn't necessary. You CAN use it if you want to, but by the same token you can DL any random shit on the Internet and run it. Nobody forces you to but you can. You don't need to, but you can.

The fuck are you imagining that the AUR is?
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>>724800679
What's your problem? I don't mean your attitude. I mean what is the actual problem that you can't solve? ChatGPT can tell you how to make a bootable USB, so why don't you go ask it? It will give you the same steps as the guides already posted (because it was trained on such text), and if you ask it to elaborate then it will say the same steps again but with more overly verbose LLM slop, but you'll think it's easier because the AI gave it to you. Everyone wins.
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>>724800807
>Home/Pro and Enterprise are too much

Ngmi.
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>>724801101
Don't forget education, pro editions, and 32 vs 64 bit.
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>>724801015
>get cucked because some retard told you to get a system that doesn't do X,Y,Z
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>>724800471
Brother, if you can't even figure out how to burn a bootable USB stick in a program with like 2-5 buttons to click at most you are never going to be able to install Windows. You are severely underestimating how difficult the process is.
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>>724801225
yes there is a pro education. and while we're at it throw that S mode bullshit on the pile.
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>>724801225
>I can't read

Nigga they literally have everything you need in their name.
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>>724801056
i cant control my fans in os without nct6687d-dkms-git
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>>724801056
>suddenly the aur isn't that important anymore
nice try moving the goalpost.
the aur is one of arch main selling points. you'd be hard-pressed so find some ardent arch shill who doesn't mention how great the aur is in the same breath.

>In fact, it is a total pain in the ass to use (without a helper tool)
okay you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>724801358
I guess I am pro Home... I'll take 20.
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>>724801279
then get more than one opinion?
reminder that you started replying to a post chain that claimed windows users aren't as stupid as we think but now you're larping as a fucking downie
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>>724800584
I don't. I play everything on my main PC on Linux.
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>>724801098
But ChatGPT is willing to take the time to point out everything that's important in a nice format too. It's not perfect and I dislike LLM slop, but it's the best thing anyone can hope for in this day and age, not everyone is going to waste their time re-inventing the wheel or pay for a complete education, even then, schools only shit out people that are no better than jeets. If you are skilled in something, why not share it for free and make the entire world a better place? Write a guide or some shitthat anyone can read trough.
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>>724801495
>larping
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>>724796116
I would have stuck with Linux in the early 2000s if gaming on it weren't so bad back then.
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>>724801748
the "pacman fucked up my config" meme was real too
KDE 3.5 was comfy as FUCK though
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>>724791205
>skill issue
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>>724799419
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>>724784654
>using arch install instead of doing manually as god intended
You didn't install arch.
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>>724801309
It's a dumb example I agree but my point applies, imagine if it was something far more difficult or intricate. Every reply is some copy-pasted 0 effort bullshit that doesn't outline what is important and serves just to shut you up.
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>>724801453
Are you functionally illiterate? I said nothing about whether the AUR is important or not, I said it's not part of Arch. It's the Internet. You're putting such retarded statements in my mouth that I'm struggling to comprehend how you're even coming up with these fantasies.
Downloading software from the Internet has always been dangerous. Saying that there is malware on the Internet is completely fucking obvious, that was the original point. Yes there is malware, there's also malware on AUR this is not special. Any place which any fucktard can upload to is prone to having malware uploaded. Just because it's convenient for you to use AUR doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful and avoid installing malware-bin. Do you literally go to random websites while using Windows and download shit that looks suspicious? No?
Why are you so retarded, please stop.

>okay you don't know what you're talking about.
Compared to using pacman to install from the repos? It's fucking painful, yes. If you don't think it is, then I can only conclude your disingenuous.
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>>724801495
My point is you keep assuming shit like a retard, like I could just phone Bill Gates or Linus to walk me trough everything I need to know, your autism is crazy, can you even read what I write?
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>Windows sucks
>presents issues
>Agreed, those are annoying. Here's some fixes...

>Linux sucks
>presents issues
>you're lying!
>skill issue! brown!
>werks on my machine!
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>>724802074
I don't understand. What is important for writing an USB image? Just having a program that can do it...? Seems adequate to me.
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>>724802348
Windows has sucked since Win8
Linux Mint just werks
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>>724801971
>naming the gnome
Based. Kill feet. Dedigit feet. Slam dunk toes into the concrete. Shove feet into a woodchipper. Crush feet with a hydraulic press. Sever filthy achilles' tendons. Run feet over with a tracked military vehicle. Submerge feet in hydrofluoric acid. Blow feet off with an elephant rifle.
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>>724802109
HOLD! how do you install stuff manually from aur? i do it in three commands and one of those is just cd
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>>724802179
so are windows users completely retarded or not?
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>>724801098
>Just use ChatGPT then...?
>>724801723
>But ChatGPT is good.
Still not seeing the problem.
>If you are skilled in something, why not share it for free and make the entire world a better place?
No one is "skilled" at making a bootable USB. There are like 3 steps. The instructions already posted are wildly above and beyond sufficient.
>Write a guide or some shitthat anyone can read trough.
Already done as noted.
>but I meant a guide for some OTHER unspecified thing
Fuck off unless you're going to name something specific and prove that there's no guide for it.
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>>724802348
>Windows sucks
>presents issues
>Here's some fixes
>99+ terminal commands and regedit edit and windhawk hacks to make it usable

>Linux sucks
>presents """issues"""
>The only ""issue"" that was presented here was dll loading for mods everything else is made up bs
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>>724802109
the aur is an important facet of the arch ecosystem, not some random rinkydink website for warez.
>I said nothing about whether the AUR is important or not
you don't need to. the fact that you're framing it as "not a part of arch" tells me all i need to know.
but again you're deflecting from my original point. as desktop marketshare goes up, naturally the amount of malware targeting linux will too, and it's already happening.

>git and pkgbuild is "fucking painful"
lol what
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>>724802759
It's on the wiki, dullard.
git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/package_name.git
cd package_name
sudo makepkg -si
I think. I never did it with 3 commands. That's how you get malware.

>>724803072
It's literally not part of Arch. It's a USER REPOSITORY. Read that word "USER" until you figure out what it means. Use a dictionary if you need to.
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>>724803164
thats painful for you?
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>>724802416
I'm saying that this example assumes that you are already 'in-the-know' when it comes to OS's. I think you severely underestimate how much people know, the knowledge people possess on computers, hardware, software, tech in general is very spotty, most people dont even know what an OS is, that Windows is the whole computer. Not everyone has someone who can walk them trough everything, the whole field is unintentionally gatekept because noone writes 101 guides from the bottom-up, like how they assume you were alive when compilers and the concept of booting came to be. It's like people have a small lens and glimpse of what it's like, maybe they got taught by someone or whatever. I hope you understand, it's difficult to explain.
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>>724783596
kek, linuxfags do be like that
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>>724803269
The compariosn is: pacman -Syu package_name
Which of these processes looks less painful to you? You're also expecting me to not read the pkgbuild and inspect the files, which is retarded.
You do understand that takes time and effort I hope.
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>>724803143
Ardour?
Granted, I know nothing about music
https://alternativeto.net/software/fl-studio/
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>>724803415
both of those are solved with an AUR helper like paru that you install once manually and then it does the work for you and lets you easily view the pkgbuilds on each update
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>>724803164
>the arch user repo isn't a part of arch
>like the microsoft store isn't a part of windows
holy kek
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>>724803513
You might also notice I said "It's painful without a helper tool" not "It's painful".
If I just yay -Syud every single fucking package on the AUR with noconfirm or some shit it would be super convenient and not painful at all. Until I get too much malware and it encrypts my home directory.
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>>724803619
Microsoft store is curated by Microsoft you colossal retard. Unless they have changed it and now any retard can upload there, which might be true considering the quality of Windows but I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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>>724803453
Oh no wait. I remember James Lee shilling Reaper in his video
https://youtu.be/lm51xZHZI6g?t=2m52s
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>>724803415
i dont think the concept of painful even applies to compare. i figured you were just doing something weird.
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>>724803643
sounds like pebkac to me
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>>724791635
Germany uses Linux as well
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>>724803736
ah yeah all those curated fake FOSS apps resold for a dollar each by jeets all the time...
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Wintoddlers are just scared to be left behind with their shit tier OS that actively works against them.
That's all this seething is about.

They are lonely and they are scared. They don't want (YOU) to leave them.
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>>724803885
trans by the way
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>>724803882
What are you unironically telling me that malware gets uploaded to Windows store now?
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>>724803979
>now
its been bad for a while, if not always
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>>724803979
you all install mas anyway so.....
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>>724803415
>>724803736
i hope you're inspecting official packages too, given malicious packages can proliferate upstream. remember the xz hack? that was and still is a signed package you can install through pacman.
>Unless they have changed it and now any retard can upload there
basically yeah.
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>>724804019
News to me, but I did remove Windows store on my Windows PC along with all the UWP shit so I'm not experienced with that.
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>>724783596
GOOD MORNING SAAAR
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And here my friend pushing Linux would have had me believe that it's the future of gaming and it's only a matter of time before the gaming industry bows to it...
...4 years ago
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>boomer dad got new windows 11 PC
>needs scanner for work, no longer supported because company got bought out and then released new models and removed the old software from the website
>get random pop up that anti virus trial is expiring
>microsoft scan app doesn't work
>check microsoft store, it's like browsing garbage on the google play store
>every scanning software has in app purchases, need to pay $15 to scan as a pdf or scan multiple pages
>get random pop up asking me if I want to pin the youtube app to the taskbar (hadn't even been on youtube or used the app)
>find old scanning software from before the company got bought out off archive.org
>takes like 15 minutes to run the install wizard
>get pop up from news app that the "train stabbing attack was done by a british national and definitely wasn't a terrorist attack"
>have to restart entire PC after installing
>installed linux mint on old pc, scanner worked ootb
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>>724804537
Like 95% of all games run with the stable proton version without any tinkering.
The other 4% need minor adjustments or run flawlessly on beta proton versions.
The last 1% is kernel-level malware infested and you shouldn't even run them on Windows.
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>>724803885
You have to remember a gigantic number of people are invested in Microsoft and they think shitposting on forums can change reality
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>>724804723
Guess he got real unlucky then that most of the games our friend group was into were impossible to play on linux
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>>724804537
I've been hearing this for 12 fucking years from Linux gamers since I was in college. It's barely moved.

Remember having Linux class where my teacher said Steambox was the future and everyone would be switching to it.

That was in
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>>724804802
Was it all FPS games? Those are usually the ones that have kernel level anti-cheat. Would be pretty fucking bizarre if it was non-FPS games.
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>>724805049
the new Skate has kernel anticheat lmao
gotta prevent people from cheating MTX skins I guess
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>>724804723
>The last 1% is kernel-level malware infested and you shouldn't even run them on Windows.
SO fucking true
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I honestly think if wallmart comes with a laptop that has preinstalled chrome, and like blender, krita, open office, steam, and most normie core friendly software by default, It will maybe do fine with normies.
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>>724783506
which version of linux do I get
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>>724784086
Might be related to ongoing work on how Proton handles Media Foundation crap. Older Proton would just output a dummy video or an empty audio stream without a cached copy of a transcoded MF file but now it seems it really hard requires the transcoded files as part of the shader cache being present at launch. But this really sucks because you might have this setting switched off because you don't really need the shader cache on a decent PC and don't want the fucking shader processing hogging CPU all the time when you have a ton of games installed. And if you turn it on the client might not start downloading the cache right away or at least not for the game you want to play right now.
They really need to decouple the setting and make sure that for games requiring transcoded media they actually have the cache for them present at launch and not just lazily have it start downloading after your try to launch a game and have it crash.
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>>724805325
Ubuntu, Fedora or Arch.
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>>724805512
Okay that's three options, what's the difference between each
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>Gaming on Linux Mint fine.
>All of a sudden, one day, all my games stopped working.
>No fix for unless I remember reinstalled the OS.
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>>724805512
that's pretty much 90% of the linux distributions right there, everything is a derivate of arch fedora and debian on linux.
honestly the distro doesn't even matter that much, the desktop environment (GNOME, KDE...) for example is much more important to your day to day use of linux.
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>>724787798
The entirety of the EU are dropping Windows for Linux thoughbeit
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>>724805656
>ESL
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>>724805325
this is /v/
so bazzite, it has all the gamer shit preinstalled
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>>724805556
linux has dozens of distros, unless you want to spend dozens of hours researching on topics you know nothing about, just install bazzite (gaming) or mint (regular desktop)
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>>724805681
No that was not that case and Linux users were lying about it.
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Thoughts on Fedora KDE?
I made a USB to install it when I finally get tired of windows but tbqh I have no idea what I'm getting in to. Bazzite was recommended but it seems too restrictive.
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>>724805656
do you did the needful?
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>>724805656
mint is old and you'll run into problems literally no one else has because they're in their own little bubble running cinnamon and 5 year old software.
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>>724805773
You're the one lying here, Windows lost, simple as
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>>724805556
>Okay that's three options, what's the difference between each
Doesn't matter for a retard like you. Just pick one. Pick randomly even.
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>>724805857
it's fine. remember to enable non free repositories.
if you want a more plug and play experience gnome is better.
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>>724805857
bazzite is literally fedora with gaming shit on top and some restrictions that make it impossible to fuck the system up
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>>724805882
Bro, I just looked it up. That is a flat-out lie about the EU dropping Windows. Lol.
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>>724805325
CachyOS (Arch but easier to use)
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>>724805556
Well, if you are asking that question then Arch is probably not for you. It's a power user distro. I went into it years ago as a complete noob and it was fun, but it really doesn't hold your hand at all.

The other 2 are just normal distros which boot into a live environment that anyone can try.
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>>724805556
usually comes down to default package selection and update ideology
which is also a thing on windows for previewcucks
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>>724805865
It's why I don't use it anymore
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>>724805656
I'm kinda confused by this, why would that happen? All the gaming stuff is mostly distro agnostic.
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>>724805975
>enable non free repositories
What does this mean?
>>724805991
I am aware, I saw it in action with some youtube video. I just dont like the look of it compared to KDE
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>>724784476
And just like with Arch, you have to redo the options every time an update shits on your setup
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>>724806203
I think was related to Nvidia driver..
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I don't understand how you're supposed to mod games on Linux. I've been subjected to this absurd, esoteric operating system because I bought a Steam Deck and it's fucking awful.

Why in the ever-loving FUCK would you EVER need more than ONE exe. file?
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>>724806225
but kde is a desktop environment, the skin you interact with
bazzite is the underlying files and they ship that with kde too
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I recently switched, honestly it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, though I can't seem to connect to servers in SCP: Secret Lab.
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>>724806225
>What does this mean?
the problem about fedora is that it only installs FREE software by default, which means anything with a restrictive licence like ffpmeg, something that you really fucking want, won't be installed by default.
enabling non free repositories is an option during the installation, you can also run a couple of commands after the install to do it.
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>>724805857
Fedora kde is honestly the perfect mix of stable, up to date, beginner friendly, and supported, while not using the absolute cancer that is gnome, so idk why you'd use anything else
There's some minor setup you have to do with codecs and enabling rpm fusion but after that it's literally the best distro
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>>724806272
the same way you'd mod games normally
just tell proton to load whatever skiddie dll you need as an extra if it comes with the mod (ie: dinput8.dll)
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>>724805307
I remember Walmart selling laptops with Ubuntu, so there's that
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>>724806269
Ok that makes sense, you wouldn't catch me ever using Mint with nvidia hardware unless the hardware was so old that nouveau is the only viable option.
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>>724783506
ill be joining if i can get my pcs repaired
dc area is fully cia controlled and they refuse to fix my pcslol
the microcenter triedto steal my pcs power cord lol
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>>724791108
>Nosferatu
I remember shitting bricks playing this when I was a kid, lmao.
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>>724806000
Stay mad, windie
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>>724806831
I don't care about windows. If Windows dies, I will just switch to Linux. I only use Windows because it benefits me better right now.
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>>724806272
it depends on the game. some games are just drag and drop into the game folder on steamapps like you would on windows. each game has something called a wineprefix which is like a mini-windows installation, on steam they're located in your steamapps/steamcompat/<game id> folder. if you install protontricks it asks you to pick a game and you run the installer for the mod and protontricks will install in the right prefix for you. there's also steamtinkerlaunch which can do different stuff like setup various different mod managers for you.
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>>724806272
Do you mean Skyoutlivion modding via MO2? That works but might be a bit of a pain in the dick if you're not autistic enough.
1. Find the Proton prefix for your game (somewhere/steamapps/compdata/AppId number), extract MO2 folder into drive_c folder
2. add MO2 exe as non Steam game
3. in the shortcut properties under compatibility set force compatibility tool to Proton 10.0-2 as newest, newer Proton broke GVFS, also your game needs to have the same Proton version set
4. in properties under shortcut set launch options to "STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=/path/to/steamapps/compdata/AppId %command%" without quotes

If you want to launch a MO2 shortcut for your game without the MO2 window opening you make another shortcut just the same and also add something like "moshortcut://Fallout 4:Fallout 4 Script Extender" but this time with quotes. Replace Fallout 4:Fallout 4 Script Extender with whatever MO2 shortcut name you have.
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>>724791205
Kek at this point is exactly the opposite. You have to tinker, hack, command script and customize Windows just to make it usable. While most Linux distros come with an GUI package manager with the single button "update" and it updates all your apps, kernel and DE. It even does it automatically without you ever realizing it.
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>>724784476
>I can guarantee you that you spent much more time preparing bootloaded and bootscripts and installing Arch
I swapped to Arch after October 14th and it took me 20 minutes to get a system that just werks.
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>>724807712
If you're offline too long and don't update, Arch will literally fuck itself.
Have fun! :D
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>>724808008
Windows fucks itself when I'm online and do update.
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>>>/g/o back
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>>724806272
If your mod uses DLL injection, you have to tell WINE/Proton that it's safe to load the modified DLL, it won't do it automatically like on Windows. You just have to add a launch argument: https://cookieplmonster.github.io/setup-instructions/#proton-wine
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>>724783506
I am part of this. I've been gaming on steam deck for basically 3 years now and finally got a new desktop after 5 years. For my new desktop I chose a Linux optimised build (read AMD) and bazzite as my distro.

So far everything I wanted to work, works and it probably took a similar amount of time to get running as it would on Windows. Especially given how locked down windows is becoming.

That said I get a fuck ton more crashes on bazzite than I would have gotten on Windows or on steam deck. Currently I am playing dragons dogma 2 via moonlight on my 4k Samsung OLED and it's great, but it took some tweaks to get HDR working
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>>724783901
English only + German is likely to be even higher than that
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>>724805325
>Mint
If you want a jack-of-all-trades OS that's very beginner-friendly and hands-off.
>Bazzite
For a hands-off console-like experience and low-fuss gaming focus.
>CachyOS
For bleeding-edge Linux gaming performance and deeper customization/control, but you need a willingness to do some tinkering.

If you go off the beaten path:
>Avoid debian
Outdated software for the sake of stability. For gaming it's not good to have old graphics drivers
>Avoid Gnome
Shit desktop weighted down by the spergs developing it
>Avoid manjaro
Adds a layer on top of Arch which can make it break more easily. Arch forks are already done better by CachyOS, EndeavourOS and Omarchy
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>>724808008
who is "offline" for more than few days in 2025?
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>>724808874
hows mint for gaming? i used to have it on a laptop for school work
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>>724795950
>What is the Steam deck?
#1 seller on steam by revenue last I checked
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>>724805325
Arch
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>>724783506
3% of users that bothered to give their information about using linux are most likely chinese or indian. Not impressive, rest of the unknown 50% people are from the west not China or India. This might be hard for you to understand. West cares more about not telling you what they got on their computers.
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>>724808984
As I said, Jack of all trades. Works fine.
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>>724784209
>automatic OneDrive sync
That was actually the final mail that made me switch. I don't want all my data automatically uploaded to the Web
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>>724809124
That's where you're wrong. I'd totally give Steam all my data. They don't want it though, they seem content with the data from my shitty Windows 11 laptop.
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>>724809124
see >>724783901
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>final mail
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>>724808874
>>Mint
no...go Ubuntu if you want Ubuntu shit, mint bring nothing good and brings everything bad ffrom Ubtunu
>Bazzite
no, go Fedora if you want Fedora
>CachyOS
no, go Arch if you want arch
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>>724809305
look at me mum, I'm PHONE POSTING
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>>724808874
What about Kubuntu, someone had recommended that to me? Just the distant cousin of Mint?
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>>724809458
purity spiraling is retarded
bazzite is a better and more functional starter distro and pure arch doesn't offer anything over cachy
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>>724809653
everything from canonical which includes the different flavors of ubuntu is currenly being ravaged by trannies rewriting perfectly functional code into rust tranny shit that fails 20% of the time
kubuntu is just ubuntu but with kde
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>>724809458
Never post again
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>>724809206
i have a 4070, hows nvidia drivers on it? any difference from if i used arch?
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>>724808874
>Bazzite
>For a hands-off console-like experience and low-fuss gaming focus.
Bazzite fag from earlier here. I actually have some trouble getting some niche shit running. I heavily rely on sunshine/moonlight for my gaming and some things just work differently or do not work at all. For example virtual displays aren't officially supported in bazzite afaik, forcing me to use a dummy plug to get 4k HDR 120hz running while my screen is turned off. Trying to create an auto start for virtual here USB was impossible and I had to hack a workaround because the AI would write code for a different distro for me.

5/10 would only recommend if you are something of an Xbox brogamer
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>>724809653
It's alright. Ubuntu with KDE Plasma so it's at least usable.
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>>724809301
>Forgets how many indians and chinese have mgirated over the years to the first world.
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>>724809702
>bazzite is a better and more functional starter distro
false
>pure arch doesn't offer anything over cachy
it is other way around moron
>>724809839
i bet you are liberal cuck
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>>724783742
>Mint
I don't get it. Every youtuber and eceleb shilling for linux usually shills for Cachy or Nobara or Bazzite but never for Mint. What caused this? was it India?
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>>724809901
Nvidia drivers on Arch are more up to date and easier to install. Apart from that, basically the same
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How do I switch to a different distro without having to reinstall / config everything from scratch?
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>>724809964
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>>724794636
It's already there, mate. If anything Linux is more straight forward than Windows at this point.
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cachyos good for gayming?
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>>724800584
I don't. Haven't had a windows install since around the time valve tried the steam machines disaster.
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>>724810003
>bazzite is a better and more functional starter distro
fedora is made for ancient shitware and requires some work to get normie shit while bazzite has all that stuff preinstalled
cachy is made for modern hardware and the only reason you'd get arch over it is if you got your panties in a twist over saving precious few megabytes of storage
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>>724810143
Partition /home as its own partition and don't format it during reinstall. Might be volatile but it works.
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>>724800584
I'm even putting my normie core wife on Linux now
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>>724810143
>>724810298
unless you operate entirely off stuff installed to your home folder, you can give up on the "never reinstall" bit.
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>>724810298
That sounds super fucking retarded, but I can see why that would work
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>>724810143
save configs to a private git repo or just use another hdd to hold files for a bit then move them back over
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All I know is that emulators, old games, most single player games and the few modern multiplayer games work for me, and that's all I need.
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>>724810186
yes, it's as close as you can get to valve's work without entering the baby zone and without needing the ocd required to give a shit about arch and saving a pointless amount of storage and ram use
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>>724810186
Yes, and so is Bazzite if you're a complete beginner.
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>>724810529
No. You have to care about Fortnite and anticheat-infected Chinese gacha slop.
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>>724796198
I've literally never been led astray by downloading random executables from forums.
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>>724810447
Separate /home partitions are very common for those who know.
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>>724810227
>requires some work
takes less than 5-10 min. Stop bullshiting.
>cachy is made for modern hardware
oh yes, and arch is for ancient 100 year old hardware and has no support for modern one.

You're so full of shit at every point.
At least be honest and say using real distros is beyond your abilities not to fuck them up and not spend 10h troubleshooting your mistakes and you need Linux distro with learning wheels on. Mint, cachy, bazzite and other similar distros are just that:
>training wheels and hand holding for incapable dumb fucks
And when those training wheels and hand holding fails you (and it will) you will be left with your own dumb self uncappable of solving anything and then going back to windows and talking shit about Linux when you never really experienced it.

Because that is THE truth, other is just random justifications and bullshit.
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>>724789251
Hallo sarr please do the needful and install the windows tank u
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At this point we all have just two options:
1. Start using Linux massively.
2. Buy a fucking PS5.
Whichever you choose is going to be miles better than using software made by and for jeets. Let's just step back and try to regain our freedom and our hobby from all this nonsense.
>inb4 hurrr just keep using windows durr
That would literally be cuck behavior. Stop liking taking dicks in your ass.
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>>724810713
what's the point of running arch over cachyos then?
what do you gain?
explain without buzzwords
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>>724810447
It's the standard practice for persistent storage between installs. Not really different from having games installed in D:\ and not formatting it.
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>>724783596
I haven't used Windows in over 12 years. What does it offer me, that Linux doesn't?
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>>724810884
Can I jury-rig this if I didn't do this before I started with Linux?
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>>724810956
More conventient piracy.
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>>724810298
can't you just copy it somewhere else and paste it in later?
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>>724789251
I had mine since 2015, same exact install, not reinstall- ever.
I will never understand morons who fuck their own system when they fiddle with things beyond them.
Ubuntu exist for such morons who had Arch "fail" on them. I am involved in Arch documentation since 2012. I had opportunities to "help" "users" who had Arch "failing" them in some way they imagined. It was always their own fault for messing some shit up.
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>>724786102
That shit singlehandedly made me want to learn Qt to provide Qt alternatives to some of the shit they snuck into Bazzite. Embarrassing.
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>>724786453
Thats crazy! Human used to write bugfree code, I guess every bleeding edge bug is Ais fault now.
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>mfw
>windows 11
>xbox game pass ultimate
>subscription to fallout 1st
>4k monitor
>5090
ITS GAME TIME! All you fags need not reply.
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>>724810976
Probably. I never tried to. You can resize the current main drive or just have a second drive that mounts into /home.
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>>724810784
India is mostly PS5 country thoughbeit and Linux is being incorporated into India by law soon. What the fuck are you going to do then?
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>>724811041
It takes time and is less convenient
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>nobody talks about my distro
>its the best distro
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>>724811354
>COMPUTER
It's PC now. Don't deadname.
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>>724784209
don't forget
>TPM and secure boot (aka unbreakable DRM that turns PCs into consoles, like android's play integrity)
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>>724811438
I have TPM and secure boot enabled on linux though because it doesn't do what you think it does.
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>>724811354
>we went from "My Computer" to "This PC" on windows
Really says something how the computer at home isn't yours anymore
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>>724811406
UWUntu?
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>>724810840
>buzzwords
tells me a lot about yourself...
I will simplify it for you:
>Anything CachyOS can do Arch can do but faster with more control over system and packages
>CachyOS cannot do all the things Arch can do and things it can do- cannot be optimized as much as on Arch itself.
Requirements is that you are not moron who needs training wheels and hand holding.
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>>724811537
Biebian
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>>724811523
Because "My Computer" doesn't make sense in all contexts you retard.
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>>724811024
Naah tha's the neat part. You pirate windows and run it in a VM, then pirate the games so you can pirate while you pirate. Throw in some pirated anime or movies on the side too.
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>>724811191
Question to other Linux anons in the thread: If I have a working /home directory and mount another partition on top of it, does it just shadow the original files leaving them intact
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>>724811176
>windows 11 ltsc
>4070
>steam and gog for goodgoy purchases
>pirate everything else
>steam deck for emu roms and everything above
>ps5 for couch gaymin with psplus
mmmmmm
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>>724811251
We shall see. But those are our best options right now. Any real damage dindia can do is still a few years away.
Either that or get a new hobby, like woodworking or welding.
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>>724810840
I'd again change that and ask you what is the point of using CachyOS over Arch when Arch can do all CachyOS can but better?
no brainlet answers like:
>it is simpler
>it werks
>it is "optimized"
>it is stable
>...
and other that make no sense to anyone who actually understands Linux.
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>>724811537
>>724811578
no
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>>724811731
It only took them 3 years since adopting internet through smart phones anon.
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>>724811406
I tried Growl Linux already. Nothing new.
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>>724796068
>command line
No.
>sudo
No.
It's an environment variable telling Wine to load the mod DLL.
It probably looks scary if your eyes glaze over whenever you see text containing non-letter characters like = or %, but you shouldn't be PC gaming if you're that dumb.
>WINEDLLOVERRIDES
The name of the environment variable.
>"dinput8=n,b"
The value assigned to that environment variable if you want to tell Wine to try the "native" dinput8.dll before using Wine's "builtin" dinput.dll, and yes this part is cryptic but that's why you either RTFM or just learn the fact that WINEDLLOVERRIDES="someshit=n,b" is the correct command for making Wine use a mod's someshit.dll 99% of the time. Some modders even give you these instructions:
https://cookieplmonster.github.io/setup-instructions/#proton-wine
>%command%
The placeholder for the command Steam normally runs when there are no launch options, placed at the end because the environment variable has to go before it.
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>>724811406
Every time with you BSD niggas
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>>724811676
That is just an alias, not a name.
Name is still "This PC" you're just hiding it.
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>>724811896
where is it being hidden? is This PC reflected somewhere else?
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>>724811896
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST RENAME IT NOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>724811896
face it, you've been owned lmao
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>>724811934
Now you need to boot up XP and rename it to "This PC"
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>>724811751
>>724811541
so yes, buzzwords
there's no advantage to arch besides some cringe ego boost
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>>724811806
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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It's "My Computer" by default in Linux Mint, thoughever.
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>>724809653
I'm using kubuntu and everything just works except EAC shit that hasn't been checked by the retards that made it. Sometimes you'll have to give discovery packages permission but you barely need the console. Plus the mascot is a plappable lizard
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>>724812150
And people say Mint is supposed to be familiar for Windows refugees?
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>>724812124
They speed ran the shittification of internet.
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>>724811513
>it doesn't do what you think it does.
how about you read up fucking retard?
they both let microjew enable (((virtualization-based security))), which is used for DRM (hypervisor stops you from snooping into program memory and tampering with programs, i.e. no cracks or mods, everything has to be stock). also, virtualization lowers your FPS
secure boot
>stops you from loading (((unapproved drivers)))
>if you set up your own keys, chances are your computer will get bricked (there are reports of hardware like graphics cards refusing to boot with custom keys)
TPMs
>have an (((endorsement key))), aka a unique keypair that uniquely identifies your device, burned into them
>you can't replace the key of course
>EKs are used for (((remote attestation))) checks. basically, if a game's checks fail, they refuse to boot up, just like when (((play integrity))) checks fail and your banking apps force close
>if you're a bad goy, the the relevant OEM can just revoke your key's signature and all checks will fail forevermore. I hope you have extra money lying around for new hardware
>if TPMs truly were about protecting people, they'd let you replace the keys whenever you feel like it
just because they haven't flipped the switch yet doesn't mean they won't, retard
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>>724812194
Only if they are 40+ yo
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>>724812194
Windows 7 refugees.
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>>724783948
>I spend as much time looking for fixes online as gaming
sounds like (You) should stick to plebsoles. I spend hours gaming for every minute it takes me to set up a minor fix on PC for gaming. Linux or Windows.
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>>724812103
Being faster is a buzzword? lol. lmao even
Are you retarded? tell me exactly what is buzzword.
The only buzzwords I've used is CachyOS as it is meaningless and just made popular by fly-brains.
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>>724812263
You are right it does look like Windows 7. Windows peaked in W7 in comfort and use. Windows 10 was only necessary evil for gaming but not a good OS, W11 sucks balls and tries too hard to be AppleOS.
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>>724784086
>about ~2 months ago nothing seems to work reliably
might be WOW64 from wine getting forced in a number of places around v10.6
if your distro doesn't support or can't supplement 32-bit libraries, you're probably going to have a bad time here on out with your current setup
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>>724812253
you can have both microsoft's secure boot key (for booting windows or corporate linux) and your own key (for self-signing your UKI on a non-corporate distro) at the same time
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>>724812532
>Computer
7bros...?
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>>724812413
>it's faster when you install all the optimisations cachyos made
so i could get that shit straight from the source or balloon my ego by installing them like you?
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>>724812595
It was just a random pic I found for comparison, but yes, computer was the way you accessed a lot of the settings options.
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>>724812652
No, it is faster (a hole GPU/CPU tier) than CachyOS when you optimize it yourself (which takes less than 30 minutes), you illiterate brown skinned fuck
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>>724791298
The worst thing that could happen to Linux is be adopted by *ndians.
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>>724813172
that's a bold claim
surely you have a benchmark to prove it?
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My biggest issue right now is fractional scaling.
I have a 1440p monitor. On Windows I set it to 125%.
On Linux it's a mess. I manage in different desktops by increasing font scaling. Essentially I'm globally pushing the size of the fonts up while leaving most UI elements the same. GNOME does change a few of those elements to match. This produces smooth but clear fonts, not blurry ones.
Fractional scaling doesn't. Fractional scaling on Plasma is a weird process where everything is somewhat blurry and not quite right. Not being integer is quite a deal. It makes cleartype look fucking fantastic in comparison.
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>>724783901
>English only
>Mutts, bongoloids, leafs
>first world
KEK aussies are the only english first world country left



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