Is it really hard for devs to understand that most men want to play as normal looking white dudes? We don't want 15 layers of tattoos, demon eyes, and tails.
>>724791874i'm surprised it's a dude given the larian playerbase, but i guess a lot of fujos are bringing up the average
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mow many times are you going to make this thread today?why don't you shut up and play a videogame.
>Having the option to choose is bad because I don't wanna chooseSpoken like true cattle
>>724792129>mow
>>724792086Almost certainly hamplanet femredittors made males to watch them fuck Halsin
>>724792194redditor
>MUH MALES>Meanwhile>People are just cool with companies spying on them
and they made the default human a she nigger that nobody wants to play as
>>724791874>the average is the averageholy fuck
I don't care for any of that, I just want disembowelment and dismemberment similar to and as beautiful as dead island 2 gore
Ops a fag
this is why you need to continue to pirate or outright not play these games until the retarded developers finally understand the kind of content a game should have
>>724792361kek
>>724791874>We don't want 15 layers of tattoos, demon eyes, and tails.I do. I wanted more races out of BG3, personally. I couldn't be a goblin, a kobold, a tabaxi, any of the genasi, never mind weirder stuff.
>>724791874>The average gamer is a white male.>They make characters that resemble themWhat a shocking turn of events
>>724791874Everyone wants their character to look how they would want to look like in real life, so of course brown people want to play as white men.
>>724791874i hate this faggot style of writing. absolutely fucking hate it>c’maaahn guuuiiisei wanna suplex you through a glass table. F A G G O T
>>724791874I thought the average gamer was a woman??? I've been lied to!
>i literally can not play this game unless i can self-insert as a stylized version of myselfOnly troons and females say this.
>>724793582il play as woever i want, you troons wont guilt me into playing as a nigger
>>724791874>you could play as a literal dragonman or starfaring gentically engineered frogwarrior>no i want to be Joe Average from Albuquerquei sleep
>>724791874It's weird seeing these people go on about how important it is for players to see themselves in the game, and then get mad when they make a character that's the same race and sex as them. Which is it you assholes? Or does "representation" only matter when it's nonwhite, non-male representation?
>>724793582and negroes, apparently
>>724791874women love character creation and that is why most games go into such detail with it
>>724791874>Just a guy with a big ass sword, facing off against degenerate abominations. Pretty based ngl
>>724791874See, the problem is that, when every character is a super special half-demon half-angel chosen one, the weirdest, most stand-out person in the party you can make is the normal dude with the sword. The players ARE making the most diverse choice possible. It's called contrast, and modern writers have forgotten it. With how many fucking tieflings are in the game, you'd swear they were the dominant race, and that humans are actually the reclusive, rare people from the far reaches of the map.
>>724791874>Male>Drow>UNCUT/non-Jew penisYep, it's DnD time.
/vpol/ can NEVER recover
>>724791874>pretending ignorancesure buddy
>>724791874they hate white men
>>724791874how old are you op? I just want to know for how long i will have to tolerate your subhuman kind in this shithole of a website.
The rationale for the devs freaking out over this seems flawed. If you make something normal, you're going to pick from the same handful of options. If you make something abnormal, you'll have a lot more options. So even if there is a 30-70 split in favor of the abnormal, averaging all the options in the game is going to give you something on the normal side. I don't know how this possibility never occurred to the retards doing their analytics
>>724791874I dont know if you are ready to hear this anon, since youre a /pol/ brained cum drinker. But they lied about this. It wasn't true. They did this to rage bait people into talking about the game in order to sell it.
>>724791874This extremely relatable character made TG shit and piss themselves.
>Noooo you have to make your character a freakish looking alien or else you're boring!!!This cope has always been extremely retarded, even more so now it has an anti-White tinge to it.The funny thing is that people who do make the most alien looking characters are usually the most shallow, one dimensional people you'll ever meet who are just trying to compensate for their lack of personality.
>>724798359>Hates noncesOy Vey!
>>724799073The only time I ever did it was with oblivion because there was no race clearly labelled as "human" and there were multiple human looking races so they were clearly all granular enough to be different than a baseline experienceSo I looked at both appearance and racial bonus and because argonians had theirs as always-on instead of daily crap I picked themLizard guys are also cool in general and I was right (in that setting at least)In pretty much every game none of them are brave enough to make their freakshit into unique or at least unused things like lizard people, bug people, tentacle things or otherwise monstrous shitIt's always lazy stand in for negro or tolkien-esque stereotype without what made those goodOnly game from memory that had cool races like that was fucking runescape and you're (rightfully) forced to play human
>>724793582This, Yt bois have low T and think like women.
>>724791874don't speak for me faggot. I wanna be a badass robot or maybe a pissed off skeleton. I'm not playing a game to keep being me you fucking retard. I'm me all the rest of the time. Not that I played BGIII because I also have taste and standards. Gay thread, shit website, horrible nation, fucked world, I hope you all die.
>>724798359Hm...that sounds like Henry...wait a second i thought the fine gents of vpol loved this why did they shit on KCD2? Huh..thats weird, its as if those fine gents are actually retards and they don't play games
>>724799572DATS RITE!!!!!! Dats y i only play as the black KANG I IZ!
>>724799946Wasn't Henry a fag in that game? So that's covered under nonce I think.
>>724792235>hamplanet femredittorsHoly shit. Kek.
>>724800324only if you actively choose to be gay. why are you gay?
>>724800527The programming is so deep that he won't even perceive the question
>>724791874Why did they get upset about this lol, why can't they just leave white skin out of the game unless you make your character homosexual or a tranny if that's unironically what they want people to do
>>724791874My character is a muscular elven fighter who walks around completely nude, all the time.His goal is to impregnate as many of the female characters as possible in his entire journey, except for the non-white ones.
>>724791874Triggered chuds whining about this still?Rent free.
>>724800527>only if you actively choose to be gay.So fags do have a choice in being gay? Then why do they say they're born that way?
>>724798359>implying a based knight would care about muh feminist age of consent laws
>>724800937This has to be the equivalent of "you too" in terms of comebacks. Holy shit.
>>724792086the devs said 95% of the players are male
>>724792131>WE PUT THE OPTION THERE SO YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE IT
>>724800778yeah rightby the description you goal is to be bred by bears
>>724800937>>724801273You both seem like fags why don't you go be gay together someplace else?
>>724791874Didn't elves and half-elves end up more popular options for the game anyway?
>>724801567I'm sorry fag, but you need to leave this place. The gamers are taking back the hobby, i think you can go to either discord or twitter to play with your tranny friends. They love playing soldiers and pretending they are winning their moral war as well.
>>724801178>muh feminist age of consent lawsKYS nonce
>>724801682Yep Half elf then human then elf
>>724791874Having those options is fine but I am not going to use them. I just want to play a normal looking holy warrior with a weapon and shield. Sometimes a two handed weapon.
>>724801875and yet no one cared when they married younger
>>724801885Paladin was the most popular class funny enough
I always pick cool stuff like being a dwarf warrior or argonian mage. I like the fun races it’s more interesting playing humans sucks. Even if it’s just elf ears or cat ears and tail it’s miles ahead playing a boring human.
>>724801953Probably because some viral build guide used it.
>>724801953the top 3 classes are all charisma basedpaladin is the charisma fighter
>>724802050Paladin has always been popular it’s the most popular wow class too
>>724802050half elf paladin fucking rapes
>>724791874Idk about you, but I'm a man, and I played a cute female forest-gnome sorcerer.
>>724802104Really? For sure it would've been hunter.
>>724791874just say you don't have any creativity or like fun
>>724791874I was just about top make a new based life cleric.
>>724791874you're an incel. nobody gives a shit about what you want.
>>724801885>>724801953I love data.
>>724801885probably because half-elves had better models
>>724792235>HalsinHalsin is pure gaybaitAstarion is consistently and by a rather large margin the most popular companion among women (actual women that is)Gale comes second and if you hung around with women occasionally this shouldn't be remotely a surprise
>>724801307they did not
>>724801430I fucked the bear's momJust like I fucked yours
>>724802738>Human FighterThat's pretty based don't get me wrong, but what does that have to do with BG3?
>>724792773This. That is why I always play as a skinny girl with a bob hair cut.
>>724803175Same ruleset. Same general normie appeal.
my claim to fame is the first person to notice this steam community and shit post this image to this boardyou're welcome bg3 hate bros
>>724802738>all these retarded nu-races invented that add nothing to the gameplay or world buildingThis is one of the biggest signs of franchise rotDevelopers get "bored" so they tack on shit that doesn't stylistically fit
>>724801946there's medieval texts where a noble consummating a marriage with a younger bride is treated as a scandalous thingit was considered highly improper even if you married someone younger to not wait until she was properly of age not just out of moral considerations but also practical considerations, childbirth was dangerous and people back then knew if you waited until you were at least 20 survival rates were far higher
>>724803241Yeah, didn't they add space dwarves to Warhammer?
>>724792298Don’t worry based schizoposter. It’s okay.It’s oooookay.
>>724801953people want to pass speech checks above anything else the top 3 classes are charisma based, paladin is the fighter charisma classit was to be expecteddnd is terrible and any system where you only worry about like 1/3rd of your stats is terrible
>>724802050no it's literally because it's a charisma class and people want to be good as social skills on their protagonist in a crpg to avoid losing out on content charisma classes or else classes that can get good at social skills through other means are always super popular in crpg's stealth and lockpicking/hacking/illegal entry of any kind tend to also be popular since people want to avoid losing out on content hidden behind locked doors
>>724803241warforged are the worst
>>724803414also bard is number 5. the only non charisma class ahead of it is rogue which is like a standard protagonist class especially pairs will with durge
>>724800324Dude. It’s an rpg. If your character is gay it’s because you’re a fag, end of story. > Guy has multiple female options and goes straight for the dick, before declaring the game woke for scenes none of us will ever see
>>724803414in 3.x based games INT is pretty popular since it increases your skill points and if a game is actually difficult, WIS and CON shoot up dramatically because nobody wants to fail a will save and you need HP
>>724791874Wrong, I like making interesting characters, but not in the gay modern media way. Let me fuck with body sliders more. Fuck off with your accessory toggles.Look at Dragon's Dogma 1 for a perfect example of people making drastically different looking characters, everything from BRICK MCHUGE to a tiny loli that would blow away with a strong gust of wind.
This sounds as if you could add horns and tails to every race, which isn't the case. You only really get horns with Dragonborn and Tieflings, and tails only with Tieflings.Both of those races being gay as hell
>>724803636They added robots as a playable race to D&D?
>>724803640do rogues have a use for CHA in 5e like they do in older editions?in any case the designated lockpicking/pickpocketing class being popular is also not a surprise, in games where speech checks aren't really a thing people default to that (aka, look at skyrim)
>>724801178the nonces were all nobles and richfags who ought rightfully to have been beheaded even without the noncedom
>>724803850they're an Eberron race and have been for decadesEberron explicitly is not a medieval fantasy setting, it has magitech trains and massive magitech wars and warforged were just part of that, magitech disposable soldiers, but now the big war is over and they gotta find a place in the worldthey don't fit most of D&D, they look ungodly out of place in say Forgotten Realms, but in Eberron they're perfectly suited
>>724803702yeah int just giving skill points you can allocate to anything would fix a lot of things. dumping int on 11/12 classes and just pretending thats fine design is really retarded
>>724793763Yeah. Mad?
>>724803925knights were just glorified racket enforcers
>>724803850it’s annoying because people play them like robots and are always like “ackshually that spell wouldn’t work on a robot” but they aren’t robots
>>724804130also wizards shouldn't have to prepare anything. you should be able to cast any spell in the game whenever but you don't get melee centric and op cantrip like warlock or op spells wiht sorc in exchange.there's no penalty to swapping out spells so i don't really get why its in the game its just a pain in the ass for no reason
>>724804050I remember that Dungeons and Dragons Online took place in Ebarron and Warforged were one of the races.
>>724793763all of the best fantasy stories are about relatable characters adventuring in a dangerous fantastic world, if you are a special snowflake magic beast yourself, than the world is less interesting by lack of contrast
>>724804376That's literally how they work.
>>724802738I'm kind of surprised Aasimar is so low. They're basically the Angelic equivalent to Tieflings right? So you get a halo and maybe some wings depending on the circumstances , so it would be being a human or elf, but instead your great grandfather was an angel so you get a commanding presence and an inclination towards good etc.
>>724804376they are robots
>>724804869They don't have the same draw since Aasimar are near universally accepted and sought after, meanwhile Tieflings are distrusted and hated by everyone who knows about Thieflings
>>724795841Could have been worse.
>>724804869Aasimar is a pretty terrible name, i wouldn't be shocked if people forgot they just exist off that alone, and its just a little donut steel im just a human but also a literal angel. like it would seem embarrassing for someone at a table to play that i think the only aasimar charater i even seen in dnd as a whole is the one lesbo bitch from 3
>>724791874>Most men.You mean chuds without creativity?
>>724804530The difference between reading a fantasy story and playing AD&D is that in the latter its YOUR character and you can live it how you wish with the DM reacting to what you choose to do. You don't need a perspective character to make things relatable.
>>724804530Wrong. It depends if the stakes are still high or relatable. See World of Darkness games. (Struggle with humanity and loss of it), cyberpunk games (the question of what it means to be part human-machine and trying to still function in human manner.) Sometimes even murderhobo villains are relatable heroes if everyone else is worse than them.
>>724791874I want to play as a fucking dragon
>>724805309WoD Vampires work precisely because those vampires are distinctly human-like and that's the main theme as you said, the other less popular splats are the ones where you play weird beings that less relatable.
>>724804381nah the tradeoff in tabletop is that wizards can actually choose to prepare all the situational spells when they want, while sorcerers have to stick to their choicesure if you're going hunting for goblins both you and the sorcerer might want fireballbut if you're just spending a few week investigating something you'll prepare a whole lot of different spells, while the sorcerer... still have fireball
>>724804882except anything that affects flesh and blood applies to them because they’re gay and poorly thought out
>>724805043Tiefling isn't exactly much better except for the Aa pronunciation issue which I admit may be offputting but its not hard to get around. Tieflings are pretty much the same concept except inverted so I can't see how one is a problem rather than the other. The former Escapist guys (I think its now called Second Wind. Yahtzee is part of it ) ran some campaign with D&D rules but a custom world and one of the characters was an Aasimar with some sort of custom archer class and also one of the prominent NPCs (the PC's noble sister was also Aasimar and also kinda sorta evil or at least very selfish and interested in court politics, their own gain even if it means fucking over others etc) which I thought was an interesting take. I think the other three main party members were a half elf rogue/bard (Yahtzee), a Tibaxi warrior (? Maybe some sort of custom class ), and an autist mushroom person artificer
>>724791874dats rite, keep giving money to people who hate you
It's funny that people try to be mad about this. For example, with Mass Effect: being the basic bitch playing Soldier with a default looking Shepard was something that people mocked for years, especially with how it tied into how party comp and how fantastical things could get was limited by people only wanting the absolute basic.Now /v/ is full of tourists that want to feel fr*kken based because they have a preference for cardboard, and cry when they get called out for it.
>>724804753Don't they also get a free +1 to AC? This race seems horribly overpowered out the gate to be immune to so many effects. I sure hope DMs rightfully have every town and normie look at the fucking magic robot with unease or fear.
>>724806119Keep freakshit to yourself faggot
>>724806119not to mention it was obviously a tongue in cheek postLarian isn't exactly mad at people playing human fighters, their CEO dresses up in armor for fucks sake
>>724805761Changeling still works, Geist doesn't, Wraith does sort of. Even stuff like Shadowrun is a good example of how you can have a fantastic cast because its juxtaposed by more normal things that one can relate to.
>>724806154Warforged are underpowered.
>>724806497Explain. Because they don't need pretty much everything another PC would need to live.
>>724806154in exchange for this >You can don only armor with which you have proficiency. To don armor, you must incorporate it into your body over the course of 1 hour, during which you must remain in contact with the armor. To doff armor, you must spend 1 hour removing it. You can rest while donning or doffing armor in this way.Also none of the things they get are as good as the free feat humans get and sleep immunity is something elves also have so it's not exactly unusual
>>724806569they still need to rest for 6 hours so their lack of sleep is academic at bestand food hasn't been an issue since 3.0 came out, everyone has access to goodberry or similar diseases almost never come up because they simply take too long to take effect and they're not even immune to poison, the one immunity that would actually matter
>>724806569Food is trivial to get in 99% of 5e campaigns. Nothing they have is powerful or meaningful.If you want an example of a real overpowered race, look no further than bugbears.
>>724806653>Takes a while to take off armor>Human male fighter with plate would have a similar issue
isn't the most overpowered 5e race just human with the free feat?
>>724806904As it should be.
>>724806802to be fair that was a buff they got, warforged used to have as major drawback that they couldn't use armor, only special warforged reinforcements
>>724806802It takes normal races 5 minutes to take off heavy armor.
>>724806653They ruined the balance reasons as to why you would pick a character other than human ever since 4e. Even PF1e had reasons to choose another race than Human, wanted to be optimal door kicker just play an orc.
if you ran warforged and your dm didn't like you would just make every encounter have someone cast heat metal ?
>>724807056>picking orc over human ever in PF1eI sure love getting -4 INT on a martial class so I have only 1 god damn skill point per leveleven half-orcs are inferior to humans at being fighters because getting a free feat is THAT STRONG
>>724806754>>724806769>immune to sleep, disease, suffocation>resistant to poison and it's damage>free +1 AC>underpoweredNeither of you fags have actually told me why they're underpowered just saying that these things aren't as good as they seem. What is an actual draw back they have? Do they have any negative stats? What is an underpowered race in your eyes and why?
>>724807087Mine is made out of wood/stone. :^)
>>724807185>Orc-Barbarian.Problem, solved. Let your other party members do the intelligent shit.
>>724791874>Play how you want, except that way you biggot. I hate everything about the modern world and only continue to live so I can watch the suffering born from its total collapse.
>>724807349having 1 skill point doesn't mean you're shit at intelligent stuffit means you're shit at everythingEven as a barbarian you want acrobatics and perception, and a couple points put in intimidate, climb, maybe swimNone of that stuff is intelligent shit, it just makes you function better and humans get an extra skill pointthe human barbarian is actually going to be perceptive enough to wake up in the middle of the night and cleave a thief in half, be good enough at climbing to climb that dragon and bash his brains out and have enough acrobatics to jump across a ravine and chuck the gnomes on the other side in itorcs can't do any of thatand as a barbarian that free feat is EVEN STRONG because it means you can actually get a fun feat at lv 1 because every barbarian takes power attackhell due to human traits funnily enough humans are better at wrestling than orcs in PF1e
>>724807185Genuinely one of the best thing 4th edition D&D was realizing "wait racial negatives are fucking retarded" and throwing that shit away.Like sure, an Orc Wizard isn't going to be the most viable of choices. But you're not shooting yourself in the dick by doing it.
>>724807262>What is an underpowered race in your eyes and why?Warforged, because the only relevant thing they get is a bonus to AC. Even their "no sleeping" shit is a watered down version of what elves can do (on top of a better resistance, darkvision, and bonus spells/skills).
>>724807262opportunity cost, it's not that the things they get are badit's that the things everyone else gets are far better if there was a feat that gave you everything you just posted, humans wouldn't take it because there's better feats instead they can take
>>724791874you should be ashamed of your stunted imagination, normalcattle
>>724807693I don't mind negative racials, makes sense some races are worse at things than othersI'd just have changed it so STR also gives skill points that can only be spent on physical skills in this particular case
>>724807693You should be shooting yourself in the dick by playing a fucking Orc wizard.
>>724807693yeah, it wasn't even interesting down sides its just now you are less accurate with your spellslike okay
>>724808319to be fair there's a good number of spells that don't require accuracy or even savesyou could play a functional orc wizard in older editions, if you picked your spells carefully,funnily enough because spell accuracy wasn't tied to INT, it was tied to DEX, spells that just did damage were a good option
