>game in its death throes >every "we can't do that, sorry" rule being broken to preserve players >playerbase only sees it as a positive and refuses to acknowledge the reason why it's happening now rather than when the game had 1.8 million active playersAnd now we have conformation that Mr. Ozma is not making the next ultimate, despite grifters saying they met him at a bar during JP Fanfest where he said he would make two ultimate fights. This expansion is certainly something.
>>724794428too much text for an OP. where's the inflammatory question and the lewd picture?
>>724794428Frankly, all I want is lvl 90 blue mage. It's yet to happen and I'm not subbing until I get to throw planets at people.
>>724794710Oh sorry uhhh"How do you xiv it?"
>>724794428>And now we have conformation that Mr. Ozma is not making the next ultimatethere's like 12 players who care about ultimate content, may learn some lessons from where WoW fucked up and focus your efforts on the areas of content the larger part of the player base cares about
>>724794428Don't mind me just stealing your best character. raiding in ff14 sucks ass and is not fun
https://youtu.be/hld7YK4gPvk?si=9Q9UOsCHwUkpXQyp&t=38andhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAtn2W9yFrwCoincidence?
>>724794428soon the raiders will be banished to their treadmills, and the Day of the Casual shall comemogs, mounts and cheevos for all
>>724794809heh, I remember when I posted this fag here. He was screeching like an autist through a CT raid.
>>724795125Anon, aside from the ascending three notes twice, nothing else is similar. You could pick two random rock songs and do the same shit.There ARE FF songs that have ripped almost directly from contemporary music, but this aint one of em.
>This is not exclusive to FFXIV. Anv long-term,investment-based game is filled with plavers whohave lona since lost their love for the game but thetime thev've sunk into it mentally prohibits themfrom moving on. Instead thev stick aroundinsisting that they are complaining because theylove the game and coping that if they devs wouldjust x y and z that it would magically bring thegame back to its glory days of [insert first twcexpansions that I played here]You see it in WoW, you see it in Destiny, Guild Wars,RuneScape, you name it. If there's a game based onany kind of live service/investment philosophy,there will be these kinds of players.
I have doomtranny fatigue.
>>724795337I'm not hating on Suck'em. I'm watching the movie right now and the Alexandria theme started on the background. I've watched this movies a handful of times but never noticed.
>>724795029Best character was Ilberd desu senpai. Emet was like top 5 before 5.3, but not even top 10 after EW shat on his character
>>724795226He was a menace in Eureka. My friends and I wpuld see him everywhere on Primal but always a weird nuisance.
>>724795337>>724795514And forgot to say, yeah, most FF music is derivative. People glazing Uematsu and shitting on Soken while ignoring that FF6 OST is a King Crimson album are delusional fags.
>>724794428>>every "we can't do that, sorry" rule being broken to preserve playersI like when good things happen.Also the wowfags leaving has been a godsend for the quality of my roulettes and unreals.
>>724795478Do people really care about what the OP says in XIV threads? All this dooming is performative since it's a way to avoid vauthy's wrath since he only cares about the catalogue.
>>724795016saying this about final fantasy 14 online will never not be funny to me. we get a savage every 7 months and an ultimate every year (maybe) the dev team has all the time in the world to make content inbetween that time frame and they don't. what makes you think cutting even more content will change that.
>>724795719It is a good thing, but it's important to realize why that shit is happening now. Pretending it's God Emperor of Benevolence Yoshida gracing us peasants with QoL like most XIV are isn't doing anyone any favors
>>724795859I think YOU'RE performative, mur-ray
>>724795478The writing in the wall is on 52 font all caps, underlined and bold, too. It's not dooming when it's literally happening before our very eyes. Why did Yoshida spend a decade saying they would never do the thing, then relent when the game lost 70% of its maintained peak?
>>724795586Stormblood post patch - Shadowbringers Emet Selch is the best character in FF14.
>>724795912actually it's going to be 9 months until the next savage. i'm convinced any faggot that complains about the existence of harder content eating up resources don't actually play the game. square and the 14 dev team are just fucking lazy and retarded.
>>724794428>playerbase only sees it as a positive and refuses to acknowledge the reason why it's happeningwhat's The Reason to you? wuk lamat? yoshida fucking off to make devil may cry 1.5?
>>724796051This may be a personal thing, but I don't really care why good things happen. I'm just glad they do.Like, variant dungeons' improvement could be because they're listening to feedback from the audience, creators, and forums, or it could be because they're all out of ideas and are desperate to maintain even a fraction of their peak.I have a better experience regardless.Same with them putting Wuk in the Lyse bin. Don't care if it is because of the controversial reception, desperate appeasement, or just fluidly moving on with the story. I get less Wuk, regardless.
It took the fucking game dying for them to let us glam crafter/gatherer gear over combat gear?Fuck them. I'm not coming back. They can go bankrupt for all I fucking care. Fuck Jeet Enix.
>>724796328>square and the FF dev team are just fucking lazy and retardedSame as it ever was
Talk about a monkey's paw.Holy shit.
Remember to qup Crystalline Conflict (Ranked Match) to start earning Commendation Crystals for your long-anticipated The Feast (Ranked Match) armor sets!!
>>724796297Population isn't even as low as it was in HW/SB, the golden era of FFXIV. Fuck off back to whatever you were playing before you decided to infect my game, shadowbab.
>7.4 release day>You do MSQ-Dungeon-Trial in 3 hours if you don't skip cutscenes>You do the Arcadion in 1 hour and half if you don't skip cutscenes>Extreme 3 hours>Unreal 30 minutes.>Max time: 6 hours>Nothing to do after that, just grinding the extreme.what is the sub for? a big patch should have at least 2 weeks of content
>>724797205Post fishing log
>>724797194
>>724796315True, 4.3-5.0 was peak Emet. Everything after is self-masturbatory fanservice for AO3 addicts.
>>724794428>thing is le good but its also le bad because yoshida said no before but now he said yes!Kill yourself
>>724797194You do know why a smaller population now isn't equivalent to ARR-SB, right? 200-300k average on 3 regions and 7 DCs =/= 300-400k players on 4 regions and 11 DCs with server visit funneling players to one DC per region.
I’m so happy about the glamour changes man
Nah the games fine that's just why everyone is quitting and bitching non stop, smooth sailing clearly.
>>724797421The switch could've been flipped at any time in the last decade. Why now? Use those precious braincells of yours, retard.
>>724796912Deserved.That is bronze strats for drk. Purify, guard, or use the southern gate next time.
>>724794428>death throesit takes a lot for the top MMOs to die, and yes despite this being shit (and WoW for a time being shit), they're still the top MMOs.It's still making money compared to what's being put in. And Square is still retarded enough to take that extra money, and put it towards other projects rather than back into the actual game that's making them money.Hell, FF11 is still fucking going. They're not going to close down any subscription-based guaranteed money games until they get to a point where they are NOT making money.
>>724797663Does it matter? Why do you have to go searching for things to DOOOOM over? Fuck off faggot.
>>724797663>The switch could've been flipped at any time in the last decadeWhy do you think that?
>>724796912Sometimes I think Zuhr and Prophecy Star are the same person.
>>724795586Yeah Endwalker ruined Emet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxn2O4g5HQIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqxHUpMyVg
>>724797829It does matter, especially when we are in the middle of an expansion where everyone thinks the issues came out of left field and weren't slowly building up since SHB.
>>724797621This is not exclusive to FFXIV. Any long-term,investment-based game is filled with players whohave long since lost their love for the game but thetime they've sunk into it mentally prohibits themfrom moving on. Instead they stick aroundinsisting that they are complaining because theylove the game and coping that if they devs wouldjust x y and z that it would magically bring thegame back to its glory days of [insert first twoexpansions that I played here]You see it in WoW, you see it in Destiny, Guild Wars,RuneScape, you name it. If there's a game based onany kind of live service/investment philosophy,there will be these kinds of players.
>>724797825The bar is so low right now.I don't think a lack of actually decent games should be ignored on account of the total lack of quality of shit we have currently.
>>724798019>SHBSo the expansion that you started playing in? Fuck off. Most of the "issues" that your kind bitches about are features, not bugs. If you want XIV to be a different game— play a different game. But oh wait you can't cos >>>>>>724798097
>>724798267I've been playing since HW, actually. Being a Yoshida white knight gets XIV nowhere.
>>724797583This means switch 2 is a flop because there’s a billion more Indians now, yeah?
>guuuuuys there aren't gonna be two ultimaaaaates they said the next ultimate is low priorityyyyyy>the game is literally dyiiiiiing>watch my AI generated youtube videooooooo>the only reason you're getting quality of life features is because the game is dyiiiiiiing>good things only happen to this game disingenuouslyyyyyyy
I stopped playing due to the ever increasing tranny fan base and EW expansion story being the perfect ending.hope that helps
>>724797621It’s really streamers, people that watch streamers, raidfags (lol), and few schizophrenic people. Anyone that played for more than 1 expansion know this is pretty normal patches but hell we got different stuff like chaotic, space crafting, and OC. Content wise DT is 10000% better than EW
>>724798350I don't have a weird parasocial attachment to the producer of the game I play sorry
>>724798483Yes... You're right. Go on, resub right now.You know you want to.You'll have so much fun! For about 30 minutes then realize you're only going to be doing your dailies and logging off for the next 29 days.
>>724798550Seems like that super secret stuff Ozma mentioned he's being put on is that "large scale, never before seen battle content" from Fanfest tooGonna have a hellaciously back-loaded expansion but they've said it's a problem they're doing that too so 8.X should ideally be better on having shit to do throughout (and it's not like it's not as you say, that these are all completely normal patches and DT is substantially better off in content variety and substance than its immediate predecessor)
>>724798634So the same as it was in ARR? and HW? and SB? and SHB? and EW? It's a feature not a bug, go play something else. >>>>>724798097
AAAAAAA
>>724798350>Yoshida white knightWould that you actually had this easy strawman to throw yourself against, but most people don't actually subscribe to FFXIV auteur theory
>>724794428>something is requested for 2000 years>it finally happens>"ah ah ah you didn't do it right so it's a bad thing, ackshuyally"go fuck a pig. you just want things to complain about
>>724798634>only doing dailiesYou got your 8 clears of PT yet? Let me guess you don’t want the cool ass mount because that doesn’t count as content? You people are legitimately npcs at this point and are boring to reply to.
>>724798950Inshallah FFXIV has grown large enough to hit MMO critical-mass and cultivate a dedicated group of forever-complainers obsessed with its "glory days"
>>724798496Same, I haven't played for over a year because of how obnoxious the fanbase got defending Dawntrail and FF14 when there were clearly problems with the game. It was fucking unreal the lengths they went to deflect and defend the game and try and use the fact the VA for the shitty character was a 'trans' as an excuse to stop any criticism from the game. That and I got fed up with people turning an MMO into a barbie shop simulator where achievements, collectables, grinds, mounts, weapons, armour it all meant nothing because the best stuff was put on the cash shop and I felt like 1 against 100,000 when I complained about it ruining that feeling of achievement in an MMO when you can simply enter your card details and get the 'reward'.
>>724798803>FFXIV auteur theorySurely if you keep saying the same things over and over for months nobody will realize you're the same poster making the same retarded dismissals to defend Dawntrail. Funniest part is that you actively despise the rest of the game, it's only Dawntrail that's sacred to you for some reason.
>>724798380Yeah, actually. The amount of Indians in a game should be 0.
>>724799081>Actually you're the Dawntrail Defender who lives in my headSpeaking of NPCs
>>724798483>good things only happen to this game disingenuouslyyyyyyyThis but unironically. The meta for GAAS is to make mistakes to be fixed later and farm easy sympathy for "doing the right thing". It's like how as a kid you only bothered cleaning when your parents could take notice and praise you.
>>724799081The way you frame Dawntrail as this great evil that warrants "defending" is hysterical and hyperbolic. It was literally no worse than Stormblood. You've been mindraped by discourse.
>>724799281He's probably the source of a lot of that discourse since he's alluding to himself also doing it for free for months by whining about defenders.
>>724798950Too little too late is the official term for that phenomenon.
>>724794428will the combat ever be fun
>>724799371If you didn't like it ten years ago you won't like it now and you won't like it ten years from now
>>724798986The chandelier is so ass, dude. I already got the other rewards from the gacha hoards and made like 200mil off reselling extras before hair tanked in price.
>>724798986Are you fucking retarded?Who actually wants to raid anymore? Only dumb retards. They've ruined BLM, too.If you're holding your breath that they're going to actually bring back job identity in 8.0 you're just another dumb asshole like the rest who suffer from Stockholm syndrome.
>>724799489>do you do stuff that's not dailies>ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED WHO WOULD RAID>AND JOB IDENTITY SUCKS ANDChanging the subject so fucking fast I got whiplash
>>724799560You're projecting so hard.
>>724799281Dawntrail is fucking trash. What it this delusion? It's a thousand times worse than Stormblood.>>724799337Another post completely lacking self awareness from our little buddy. >>724799131
>>724799596what's being projectedunsub and fuck off if you don't like the game. simple solution to all your problems>but i have to flail against the game and beat it and bite it and destroy it and bitch about it andno you don'tyour next line will be "i love it and want it to be better"
>>724799489>BLMFuck off. You people only liked BLM in SHB/EW because parsetrannies told you it was Da Hardest and Most Complex job as if all of the complexity wasn't just managing instant casts for extremely marginal dps gains that only matter in fflogs. The only time BLM was ever "hard" was in Heavensward, an expansion that you didn't play.
>>724795478Doomtrannies will never understand to doompost they at least need a thumb on it/familiarity with the game instead of becoming a skipping record. I was there for EverQuest when horizontal expansions stopped being added at behest of a vocal minority of poopsockers. I was there when Assassins fucked the PvP and PvE meta in Guildwars 1 singlehandedly and don't get me going on EotN's universal ccs for classes designed around having no cc. I was there for the episodic updates to Wrath and beginning of the end/incoming storymode just as I was there in XIV for countless similar situations unique to XIV from Stormblood forward.No doomposter can demoralize someone like me because we lived the endtimes over and over again. The very nature of their complaints seldom ever aligns with the cancer killing the vidya
>>724797941king's honor friend
>We finally get to glam DoH/DoL gear over other jobs.>It's only because they're panicking at the dwindling player numbers.>They need to give Shareholders a reason to keep investing>Fags are falling for it, and actually think Yoshi-P is doing it for them.
Aren't they adressing the fact that 8.0 comes out in 20-fucking-27
>>724795859>All this dooming is performative since it's a way to avoid vauthy's wrath since he only cares about the catalogue.I would buy that it was performative if it wasn't followed through on sometimes 50-75% of the remaining thread being OP talking to himself about the game's death. Sometimes the cocktail's followed with one or more chaser bans.
>>724799706Abel, you don't care about the game being fun because you don't actually play it.
>>724799803What's there to address?Yoshida openly told us to expect less content and a longer wait between major patches.He said that. I'm not bullshitting you.
>>724799719I liked BLM because the footsie game is all the mechanics have going for it and BLM did massive damage if you optimize your movement and learn the fight on a level where a rescue used on you is a real dick move from the healer. I came back to the game, hit 100 on BLM, RPR and DRG then from there forward feel no reason to play the game, make Gil, level an inferior DPS, or do any sort of daily maintenance when aside from current raid tier I'm gear capped, houseless and can always RMT another pile of Gil.
>>724799951You can't just say that, he already strawmanned you.
>>724799803Typical patch schedule timings means that's not happening, latest is something like November of 2026, probably sooner if they don't do media tours since almost all the shills are now untrustworthy and begged for the game to die earlier in DT's cycle
>>724799803Not until Fanfest, which is next year anyways. I do find it funny that XIV is such a well-oiled machine where players can map out a whole expansion and patch release with a week margin of error, yet the devs pretend this doesn't happen and they can surprise us.
>>724800012>e-celebs are untrustworthy because they didn't deepthroat the game when it was at its lowestSo true sister. These fucking worms are going to pay for having the wrong opinions. Hopefully Yoshida sues these pieces of shit into oblivion.
>>724800021>we can guess patch timings so also update contents will never surprise us
>>724799889>boogeyman namedrop
>>724800021>next year Now that I think about it 2026 is in 60 ish days
>>724800021Anon, the only thing we can predict at this point is longer periods of time between patches.They haven't gotten shorter, only longer.If you looked at the pace of content since ARR to DT, you'd see they've only gotten more and more lazy with time.Granted, the year-to-year projections have been pretty close to what we expect, but they're still a week or two in delay, if not a whole month.That's longer, not shorter.
>>724799889Hasn't played the game in two months but you bet your ass Kate's bravest little soldier is here working hard to protect Dawntrail.
>>724800168"There's more time between patches" means absolutely nothing to me, FFXIV has the steadiest update schedule of any MMO I've ever played, and would even if patch cycles were something "ridiculous" like 8 or 9 months apart from each other.
>>724798550The human capacity for self delusion is fascinating.
>>724799604Dawntrail=Stormblood>Heavenswardsorry, this is true even if you respond angrily with tears in your eyes. heavensward was boring, dawntrail is not that bad.
>>724800231It's so pathetic.I would at least want to get paid to be a mindless, shameless simp cuck.
>>724800231>"The Man, the Myth, the Legend"Achievement gained for becoming a schizophrenic's strawman on 4chan
>>724800286>The expansion that caused the mass player die-off is 'Not That Bad.'
>>724800261This. If anything the static and predictable schedule is so static and so predictable it made it easy for me to sub for a month, do the new shit and then check last expansion's cycle to know roughly when the next month will be.
>>724800398>coof and WoW rapefugee bubbles popping are the sin of the expansion, actuallyWay too eager to lay blame on the expansion. Graph whores and chart warriors should be deported.
>>724800398>mass player die-off>its just wowfugees and tourists going back
>>724800261I also have a lot of different games I play so I’m not hard pressed for updates asap. Still need to beat Silksong, ball x pit, megaman legends 1/2, metaphor, e33 and got like 4 games that get updated all the time
>>724800536>>724800510Is WoW in the room with us right now?
>>724800536That one doodle on the LuckyBancho graph showing that the end-point of the mass player drop-off is still a gentle incline upwards that's in line with the ARR-HW-SB growth must have broken people's brains
>>724800510>>724800536You are the WoW refugees though.
>>724800602New expansion is just that good.
>>724800668I fucking hate XIV, even after playing it since 1,0, but WoW is stale garbage, too.The new expansion has more LGBT faggotry than any before it, I've seen it.That automatically puts it in shit-tier.
>>724800651I've been playing since ARR, schizo-kun
>>724800456I did fall off just because I ran out of relic weapons I wanted to grind out, but I'll check back around 7.45 or 7.5, Pilgrim's Traverse sounds neat but not neat enough to drag me back in. Busy with Dark Souls 2.
>>724800763You haven't.
>>724800763You haven't because I said so, and for the purposes of this thread you are a lalafell avatarfag I hate, and also a highlander I've become fixated on. I am extremely intelligent.
>>724799719 Kill yourself my man
>>724800810Kys
>>724800928>dude abel isn't actually here>posts a picture of himself>same feminized catty posting styleAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>724800928It’s funny because you can post your 2.0 achievements and your 16000+ play time and they would still say you’re a shb player lol
>>724800758I wish to go back to the days of nigger not being wordfiltered with a flag attached.>>724800801Still waiting on a "I am objectively better than you" stick that I like for editing midis live by a market board and becoming the fucking bane of AFK kikes that left their audio on.
>>724800980For being correct? Sure.
>>724801078Yeah they give away really quickly that they don't even care about what they're saying, they just want to show you their asshole and scream. "Show me your cheevos" is already a dick-measuring contest.
>>724801124>He fished for a proc to extend enochian
>>724797205Frontline and hunts
>>724801217That's not even how Enochian worked.
>>724800928>proving the schizo right
>namefaggingBejitabro here, you guys need to learn what "Anonymous" means. You're obsessed with attacking identities instead of whats being said on site where every poster doesn't have one by design
>>724801084Censorship is literal oppression.If you hide the ugly, and you hide the punishment of actual, real crime, you're a fucking demonic piece of shit who should be put down.Forcing positivity and encouraging further censorship is the type of shit a control-freak does.Nobody who has an ounce of dignity would advocate for censorship. If more people realized how fucking terrible shit like forced inclusivity is or how bad diversity quotas are, they wouldn't behave like a bunch of faggots all the time and might do something about it.Can't have that, right? RAPEFUGEES WELCOME! Fuck off. Gatekeeping is an honorable duty.
>>724801271>fire proc to avoid dropping the timer>implying any class had that mechanic>ignoring that the simplification hammer hit BLM because the footsies- the hardest thing for BLM to deal with- will continue to grow into DDR
>>724801360Enochian was a separate timer from Astral Fire in the Before Times.
>>724801319That doesn't work with Abel because you can completely prove him wrong in every way and he'll just come back next thread and pretend it didn't happen. You have to call the jew a jew.
>>724801348You'll find most fencesitters are already on your side but are put off by the histrionics. If you think the blue collar normie doesn't believe in merit you lost the plot.
>>724801281the schizo has to say something to be right>guy i hate hasn't played in two months and white knights dawntrail and i don't have to prove these two points are connected at all AHAHAHAHAthis is nothing and it is why he's a schizoit is /vg/ drama llama stuff which is perhaps why he is eager to not show his own character in these kinds of makeup department slap-fight argumentsafter all the worst thing that can happen if your character is posted is some retard obsesses over you and posts your lodestone profile whether or not it accomplishes anything
We lost so much in such a short fucking time...>>724801579I s
>>724801502I don't think that works either since you're still shitting about Little Buddy the Abel after a couple months no matter how many times you le name le jew
>>724801579Candlejack ate my post.I saved the pic that got posted purely because it looks like if I post like a passive aggressive fag I can build it all up to posting a pic and feeding delusions that some dude I don't even know is in fact in the threa
>>724801805ANON???? ANON ARE YOU OK
>>724801750No, it does work. Look at how he's shitting himself right now.>>724801805>n-no i'm not really here i'm a random guy who had his picture saved it's totally not abel guys!Just autosage the thread, bitch.
>kate tranny army is defending the game againI enjoy this personally, these threads are even worse than the game (complete dogshit) when everyone piles on and agrees completely. It's good to see some trannies seethe about how good DT & the game is.
>>724801502Well yes, that's part of the consequences of being on an anonymous posting forum, there are no real consequences for anything unless you break the rules while a janny decides to be competant.The problem with this mentality is that other people can legitmately also hole similar viewpoints and you'd have no way of knowing even if the person said so themselves. It just leads to a state where in place of a valid argument people just namedrop whenever they see something they don't like. A good example being that I can call anybody who disagrees with me over the quality of any FF game Barry.
>>724797403Hey now, I liked seat of sacrifice as a big finale to the games actual story.
>>724802016Seat of Sacrifice sucks ass as an ending, it leaves off on an enormous cliffhanger.
>>724799951>houseless>only recently realized I was paying just to keep a house in a video gameI wish I'd let it go sooner
>>724801918>immediately insists I'm some vg fagWhat'd this Abel guy do in their cult of personality to get so popular?
>>724802075It doesn't. What destroyed Amaurot is not a cliffhanger. There was enough into to speculate, it never needed to be explored. You're the guy modern Star Wars is made for.
>>724802075There was fuck all cliffhanger to seat itself. Its; ascians are defeated, lets go home.
>>724802246>i killed the unsundered so all ascians are dead forever :3(sound of fandaniel rapidly climbing inside your asshole)
>>724799371tab targeting has only ever been fun in GW1, and only on Mesmer. It's simply not a fun combat system 90% of the time
Thread successfully derailed into schizo bogeyman shitflining.Booting thread deletion algorithm in 3... 2...
>>724798634I've never unsubbed :D
>>724802295>dude there are still bandits in thanalan!
why does this happen?
>>724801124It was never about difficulty.This dogshit game called Final Fantasy XIV simply no longer has a single fun class to play anymore.
>>724794428who the fuck cares dude nobody "plays" this game. it's just erping trannies using this game like a chat room and doing achievements like "mine 569135183571385 nuggets of shit from your ass. reward: title The Dumbass"
>>724802237a little bit of /vg/ sleuthing suggests the guy obsessed with abel is somebody that gets rejected or got rejected from an /xivg/ meetupthe only results for abel or "abel lowgust" on /vg/ are a couple posts where he accidentally put his character name in a screenshot not that it matters lol who cares if somebody sees your toon and somebody spamming a post related to abel that got deleted for spam three years laterdo note that the deleted spam is a post telling dumpy to fuck off that appears on /v/, apparently he was reposting it on /vg/ because he was angry and summoning up random old posts from the archives
>>724802385Sorry anon, waiting on 8.0/7.4 to actually use the threads. Last time I did they were all obsessed with some dark haired lala or le Barry. Opened this expecting the usual. What's the new obsession's schtick?
>>724802171Part of the reason I dropped the game for a year and a half after 3.1 came out was I saw that bullshit for what it was the instant SE rolled out demolition.
>>724802295That cutscene isn't at the end of SoS
any tips for zulrah?
>>724802636Thanks mate. Seems like new forced faggotry from some WoWfag.
>>724802658Honestly no idea. I just occasionally come to these threads to post barely-sfw lala images, sometimes some elezen or other stuff, then leave thread. It's only on major patch releases that anything of value is to be had here.
>>724802636Interesting that you can only post that rapidfire copypasta stolen from here, and not any of the actual posts from "dumpy" (and by that you mean me, the guy tracking you) that you're talking about. Probably because I don't post on /vg/.
Remember when FF14 had a core identity of fantasy to it? Yeah I remember.
>>724802826Post 'em, eternal wait for a month of 7.4 jewing anon here.
>>724794428>everyDo you mean the TWO single things that were basically stated in that Live Letter this weekend? Way to knee jerk reaction.And yet it wasn't that same sentiment back when they added flight to the ARR areas back in 5.3.What is the opposite of cherry picking, because you're essentially doing just that.
>>724802856I like how art deco is now "fantasy"
>>724802887The posts don't exist, just the aimless copypasta that got spammed on one single day.
>>724802856garlean robots are fantasy btw
What does an April 26 fanfest mean for the release date of the next expansion? I'm too lazy to look anymore into it.
I still haven't cleared Floor 70 because all the groups I've had were shit and I don't want to keep doing 50-60 again. But at least I can do 20-30 for my weekly tokens.
>>724803080it means january 2027 release
>>7248030802027
>>724803079Robots can be fantasy, yes. Dumb fucking hylic. Fantasy doesn't mean swords and waterwheels.
>>724799281There absolutely are tons of people who are defending Dawntrail purely because of outside political reasons such as Wuk's VA. Or their shift towards peacefully accepting all cultures no matter what.
>>724803026Pretty sure it's forced faggotry because new expansion of other game is just that good like past trends have set. Giving them a chance though. I'll probably be that anon at some point for the easy bait.
>>724800536If your game isnt good enough to keep ANY new players during a 4 year period, thats not exactly a good sign either anon.
Garlean robots and shit I can tolerate, but not that cyberpunk shit solution 9 is
>>724802983>Underwater fantasy city with weird spirals, curved buildings, a haunting glow"Yeah bro it's just your typical art deco innit" >>724803079Did the Garlean Empire have robots?
>>724802887Do realize he's deflecting.
>>724803307The chrystler buliding is never going to be a "fantasy" style building.
>>724803284The new players have the most incentive to keep riding the Rollercoaster through the story and to the long drought. Ironically enough if I had to guess what the main people paying subs are right now it's>statics>parsefags>paying rent on the pixel house>second lifer>ERPer>the purest of these, the JRPG enjoyer still doing MSQ
>>724803285garlean is less magic than this retarded capeshit-spawned "electrope" garbage>uuuh yeah this self-powering magic rock can shapeshift into anything and do whatever the thing it shapeshifted to is supposed to do>it can also manipulate its surroundings>just build an entire city with it? no problem>>724803307yes???????
>>724803226You fucking wish m8, get over it and argue with people that think it's good because they think it's good instead of pretending they're delusional or brainwashed. Easier to dismiss than it is to argue, I know, but don't bother if you won't even try.
>#2 maybe #3 mmo is 'in its death throes' because of one bad expansion
>>724803458>castles aren't fantasy we have castles in real life>giant crab buildings aren't fantasy we have crabs in real life
>>724803571You don't think Dawntrail is good. You don't even play it.
>>724803571Nobody who I have debated with regarding the DT MSQ have provided any good reasons as to why its good. Like sure, 7.3 was a step up from total trash but thats not exactly a compliment.
>>724803586Again, art deco is not fantasy. Strapping a couple spirals to it doesn't really change it. Stop trying to make retarded arguments.There isn't a single "crab building" in all of amaurot. Just random spirals on a modern building. It's really quite cheap. Castles are considered within the fantasy genre. What a disingenuous argument.
>>724803581you're witnessing a crash-out from WoW being culturally irrelevant and FFXIV being the game to get that times square advertisement once
>>724803307>missed all the robots in every ARR garlean camp>missed all the robots in castrum/praetorium>missed the literal robot factory dungeon in Stormblood>missed all the robots rampaging in Garlemald
hopefully they see how positive the response was to glamour changes and decide to fix and improve the gameplay too :)
>>724803571Yeah we just love Dawntrail! Like those 7.2 Yok Huy quests that were so cool!
>>724803517Ceruleum is literally liquid magic even if its practical use-case is as gasoline>>724803781It's even sillier to miss robots being everywhere in the empire with 6.3? 6.4? being where that Garlean noble had a tantrum and ran out into a machina infested field
Im doing NG+ now and will skip DT. I'll just pretend my WoL found this weird key on the side of the road, and thus all of DT is entirely irrelevant. Hell they probably wont even speak about it again after 8.0 aside from maybe we will call Wuk once per expansion to "check in" like we do with Lyse.
>>724803581XIV players have standards and won't sit around eating shit for 6+ bad expansions in a row unlike Blizzdrones.
Highly stylized steampunk robots=/=Player driving around in a Mazda drinking a Mt Dew
Garleans are fantastical despite being technology focused they aren't out of place in the high fantasy setting. Nu Alexandria straight up apes cyperpunk aesthetics and its people are dressed like real world people this is why there's a stronger dissonance.
>>724803892>Im doing NG+ nowwhy
>>724803892NG+ implies you already did NG. You already had your epic adventures with your best friend, Lamaty'i, who loves peace!!!
>>724803968They're dressed like fucking Xenoblade characters they aren't dressed like real people
>>724803894I mean sure, quit if 8.0 is bad too. But I get the feeling nearly everyone will come back unless they totally botch it.
>>724802385That's all XIV threads have been since EW desu.
>Lightweight was 3 challengers and Wicked Thunder who came down from the Heavyweight group>Cruiserweight was 3 challengers and a Brute Bomber revenge match>New art shows 4 new characters for the final tierIt feels like there's almost no plot to this. It's just going to be a boring bad guy loses at the end and everything is solved, no twists or surprises.
>>724803967I agree but they're turn of the century dieselpunk, not steampunk.
>>724802856Arriving in the zone just before here was so kino. Even if I didn't really care about helping the fish people after, the cutscene leading to the seabed and the music starting up was fucking awesome. Big part of me is glad I dropped the game after Sharlayan and arriving in Thavnair, as neat as some of the stuff I later had spoiled for Endwalker was I don't think it would've matched how concentratedly good Shadowbringers was.
>>724804008Flesh Sphene is wearing short jeans, my nigga
>>724804004>>724804005I used a fanta and I want to really wear it in by redoing the MSQ as my new character. I can just selectively pretend certain things didn't happen too.
>>724803517>electropethe whole substance should be radically changing eorzea. this is star trek level tech that can create anything like their replicators.
>>724803894The remaining XIV players will shovel the shit into their mouths for Yoshi himself no effort because they don't care about the quality, they want housing and glam updates more than anything else to turn the game into some new version of Second Life. The ones that had standards left already.
>>724804092That is Flesh Sphene and nobody else in Solution Nine
>>724804142People walk around in tracksuits and shit my dawg
>>724803517>>724803781I genuinely couldn't remember because it's been so long since I interacted with the game. I was getting it mixed with up FF14 where the 'mechs' and robots are in fact summoned demons or primals sucked into and repurposed to power the robots. Dawntrail still sucks ass and is now going to be a bigger MSQ filter than Stormblood and ARR combined.
>>724804131They decided it doesn't work outside the dome's high levels of lightning aether.How's it creating entire worldscapes in the XI raid? Don't worry about it chud.
>>724804131Electrope needs a 24/7 supply of incoming lightning energy AND extremely complex arcanima inscriptions to be useful. You're hamstrung by needing extremely specific recharge conditions and needing fantasy computer technicians. You may as well wonder why the Arcanist's Guild hasn't elevated Eorzea into its own cyberpunk utopia already, it's the same magic system, right? Not how it works
>>724803879>Ceruleum is literally liquid magic even if its practical use-case is as gasolineSo if you keep gasoline's original, realistic piss yellow color aesthetic, you have a sci-fi setting, but if you make it glow blue, you have a fantasy setting. Wow, it's so simple!
>>724803581>#2 maybe #3 mmo is 'in its death throes' because of one bad expansiontranny-kun it's more about the expansion being terrible AND the game being 12 years old. You're not going to bring in new players to replace the ones that leave anymore.
>>724804264>>724804337That's not true, because then how on earth does electrope in Living Memory work? There isn't constant storm clouds.
>>724804346Gasoline is highly refined from oil which is black.
>>724804337NTA but it doesn't need any of that to work for the Vana'diel questline and even has sentience. That guy is right that it's basically high tech fantasy with the ability to create and do things out of next to nothing.
>>724804397Living Memory runs on souls, not lightning.
>>724804397I told you not to worry about it chud.
>>724803581i would bet real money that the mare lamentorum lawsuit had a larger negative impact on the playercount than DT's MSQ
>>724804439The souls are used to project and maintain the endless not to power Living Memory
>>724804140The parasocial relationship FFXIV haters have with Yoshida should be lab studied.
>>724804439No, the souls are used for grafting memory aether onto so they can 'live' again. The infrastructure is electrope.
>>724794428>They still haven't made it full F2P/ESO-modelIt's not dead until that happens.
>>724802075>>724802016Seat of Sacrifice is shit because Elidibus was written like an OOC retard ever since Stormblood. People excuse this though because OHH MY HECKIN FEELERINOS and the music.
>>724804526>>724804552That doesn't seem like what's happening when Living Memory loses its golden light and all of its electronics that aren't autonomous drones stop working and all of its Endless vanish when the flow of souls stops
>>724804423What is even your point? We have Ceruleum extractors in whatever DT's wild west zone was called and they look just like real life oil pumps. Raw Ceruleum/Ceruleum is literally oil/gasoline in everything but name and aesthetic.
>>724804061Good. An honest wrestling story is ahat we need after tier after tier of le surprises that ruin the plot. It's basically Omega without the FF memberberries, which was absolutely kino.
>>724804652Elidibus didn't really have a character until 5.3
>>724804654No, the projected illusions shut down when you turn the terminals off. You haven't stopped Speen yet. Furthermore, even if you were correct, you're only saying that yes electrope can function on other types of aether in the absence of a flood of lightning.
>>724804363>vastly singleplayer experience>if you don't skip the whole 9+ year long story you probably enjoy it>implying WoW doesn't get new players to this day>implying what I described above isn't why WoW has a faggot casual on the rails story now>"b b buht you don't have to do it like Final Fan-">if you don't do it you're basically leveling without a massive portion of questing prog or the viable gear said quests now give
>>724804698he was pointing and laughing at the pissing and moaning over it being magic gasoline because it was blue, the substance itself is volatile liquid aether but practically it's just gasoline
>>724804061Well, that's how it's going to go. the president will threaten us, but we will beat the big bad boss, and then we shut down the arcadion or just make it a regular arena with no soul shit.
>its another crying over XIV not being medieval fantasy episodewhen will tourists learn that FINAL FANTASY, is about all kinds of fantasy meshed into one?
>>724804510that hydra already grew its replacement heads
>>724804654Living Memory still functions when you shutdown the terminals
>>724804727He was initially the wildcard figure, which funny enough, is exactly the role Fandaniel plays when he's introduced the patch after they kill Elidibus.
>>724804652>since SBSince forever, anon. Elidibus had no character or personality besides his mystery box balance act. 5.3 just inserted a bunch of Ancient bullshit into him last minute but he'll always be a nothing character, XIVs potential man.
>>724804654"standby" and "shut off" are not the same
>>724804840And combined, all three have a fraction of Mare's userbase
>>724804835Reverse Isekai is my favourite fantasy genre missing from FF, thank you Nomura sama!
>>724804835they've been fairly creative with what they've used, i'm just arguing semantics
So, can we all agreed that dawntrail was a bigger failure than shadowlands?
>>724804835When will you learn that every game is different and that there's a big difference between weird fantastical robots, and ipads and uniqlo shirts. It's about maintaining an aesthetic and not breaking immersion.
>>724805161Genuinely, yes.
>>724805161not even close. worlo has done everything short of deleting the expansion to pretend it doesn't exist
>>724805161Absolutely fucking not
>>724805193This game actually jokes about immersion a couple times. I imagine another gremlin would pop up to say "this place doesn't look like Eorzea! My immersion!" if they did the gag again.
>>724805193>maintaining aesthetic>in a literal final fantasy rememberry themeparklol
>>724805161LMAO you blizztroons are insecure and delusional. shadowlands was a disaster that followed a flop (BfA) which itself followed a very divisive expansion. only brainwashed addicts were playing at that pointDT is like cataclysm. the devs fucked up big time once but they still have the good will to turn the ship around without too much damage
>>724804601XI still isn't. If there's a dollar to wringed from the remaining battered MMO audience they'll take it.
>>724805161I may hate dawntrail, but at least it didn't shit on every story point the game previously had. Fuck shadowlands.
>>724805384Which game are the uniqlo shirts from?
>>724804601until you realize the game is essentially F2P if you have the patience for them to keep waiting as they add more xpacs to the free trial
>>724794428>>playerbase only sees it as a positive and refuses to acknowledge the reason why it's happening now rather than when the game had 1.8 million active playersHave you not seen the bajillion "they just broke the in case of emergency glass" memes floating around? Everyone knows exactly what they're doing.
>>724805161did DT cause a mass exodus like shadowlands? i rest my case
>>724805240Buddy you're about to get the biggest SHB/EW memberberries in existence next expansion, on top of FF7 references, to drown out the memory of DT.
>>724805161>Boreghast>Bluethur>Beginning of Sylvanas Mary Sue arc>SuperhellGarrosh was the best part of the whole expansion and one of the only memorable moments.
>>724805586anon, the game is already steeped in ff7, its not the emergency button you think it is
>>724805565If any WoW expansion were actually better than DT we'd be having lots of shitposts saying as such, instead the current pseudo-ironic Other Game shilling is those two Honor of Kings: World videos that don't even get pity replies
>>724805565It didn't THOUGH.
>>724794428>playerbase only sees it as a positive and refuses to acknowledge the reason why it's happening now rather than when the game had 1.8 million active playersor maybe it's just the devs moving at their usual glacial pacefriendly reminder we still don't have the increased object density they promised us in the pre-xpac teasers
>>724805587"fuck you"*super soul dies*Good ol' Garrosh.
>>724805525Not wrong but the emergency glass hasn't truly been shattered until they advertise a Sephiroth fight. That is the true final ace.
>>72480547613 or 15 of course
>>724805667"We need the FF7 expansion" is a giant I GET ALL MY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS GAME FROM /v/ AND FORUMS kick-me sign
>>724805730can we go to super shadowlands and get his souls soul back?
>>724805678>xiv player numbers spiked during shadowlands because uuuuuuuuh they just did ok?
>>724805905he means the other way around i think, dawntrail didn't inspire an "over to WoW" migrancy wave and accompanying hannibal buress commercial
>>724805730He died doing what he truly loved.>>724805798Sylvanas is already on it and going to bring all the supersouls she saved back from superhell in an Infinity War moment you the player the chosen one will personally lead in a one man instanced dungeon where almost everything except the health sponge bosses get onetapped, you beat the hot evil elf woman and save the world as she hints at there being an EVEN BIGGER EVIL.
FF7 isnt as popular as you guys think. This isnt the 2000s anymore. Most people dont actually want a FF7 expansion.
>>724805476>NOOOO IS THAT A HECKIN T-SHIRT IN MY FANTASY GAME????
>>724806098I want an FF9 expa.... oh
>>724806031maybe you shouldn't have ended your sentence with THOUGH then, retardstop using words you don't understand the meaning of, ESL
>>724806098>dude>most people don't want the most recognizable and IP>nobody would>just trust me OK?>it's not like a sephiroth fight will singlehandedly cause a new wave of WoWfugees>especially right now when the current content is just so good
>>724806165My only pain point is that Viper is bland and doesn't draw enough Zidane inspiration. Kirito sucks ass.
>>724806228You're a boomer anon. Most people playing XIV didnt even play 7.
>>724806228no, it wouldn't. you're operating on secondhand knowledge that is at least 10 years old. you fucking retard
>>724797421
>>724806302I didn't even play 7 either. Boomers know it's an inescapable and prolific IP.Shame WoW has no fight or recognizable faces to loot table anymore.
>>724806228>sephiroth fightI really dont want a sephiroth fight given xiv's combat mechanics. The stands there and stares while charging a shape on the ground isn't right for him.
>>724798380Correct.
>>724797870MMO hanger-ons operate on a whole different universe of conceit and assumptions about the development process
>>724806341Samefag some more, your tears are delicious.
>>724806369Who mentioned WoW? The #1 most popular mmo I mean.
>>724806431>I really wanna be contrarian because it's believable and shows I have strong ground to stand onConcession accepted.
>>724805586>SHB/EWIf they actually bring back back Ryne or Meteion as waifubait I will suck Yoshitpiss' dick.
>>724806228you're delusional if you think anyone under the age of 30 knows who sephiroth isyou're even more delusional if you think a single nostalgiabait bossfight is going to keep players in the game long-term
>>724806452WoWfags, they've been here with all the subtlety of an elephant since their game began to suck in Shadowlands and they never left or recovered since.They are so mindraped they can't comprehend a single character fight bringing a new refugee wave from WoW to XIV immediarely.
>>724806540It is kinda weird how Meteion just left. We know shes alive and well and traveling.
>>724806540>new party>ryne>sphene>meteion>gaia>some new hebe> +youthrow in a beach episode or bathhouse on top
>>724806639All this because I said FF7 isnt as popular as you think anymore.
>>724806617>7 remake>"ur a boomer if you think anyone knows who-"Hello mindraped anon
>>724806617The year is 2005 and I am posting on GameFAQsFinal Fantasy 7 will remain entrenched in the RPG zeitgeist forever because it is entrenched right now
>>724806715>nobody knows who sephiroth is>nobody cares>has steadily ranked as one of the most recognizable villains of all time across the last 30 yearsAll this because you need to build gay little narratives
Dont want the annoying birdloli back. I just want Ryne and Gaia to go on an adventure again.First trip with the key should be going to visit them or bring them to the source.
7 has a cool setting but I dont get the hype over Sephiroth himself.
>>724806721where are the zoomers obsessing over the remake? there aren't any. the remake is for boomers who grew up on the game and want to go back to their childhoodno point in arguing with the most delusional man alive
>>724806925because the guy claiming a sephiroth fight would draw people into the game doesn't know why sephiroth was such a good villaini know he's reading this right now. go on, explain why sephiroth was a great villain
>>724806838gaia will never be relevant againnew players have a mountain of content backlogged to catch up, the last thing the devs want to do is also force them to do an entire raid series that nobody queues up for anymore
>>724806925He's Kefka with a contemporary mall-ninja aesthetic on top of having a better character premise and motivation (government super-soldier ambiguously possessed by John Carpenter's The Thing, rather than a nihilistic clown the writers forgot to show becoming powerful)
>>724803307>Underwater fantasy city with weird spirals, curved buildings, a haunting glowOutside of it being underwater, you're just describing Manhattan in the early evening.And don't worry, the underwater thing is coming. Give it a few years.>>724803307>Did the Garlean Empire have robots?Do you play the game? Yes. They've got robots.
>>724807102>he's kefka but not kefka at all
>>724806925male teenagers see a brooding angry edgy dude and make him his entire personality
WoWbucks are so mindraped they can't accept the most popular IP Squenix could bring into the MMO will draw attention.Wew.
>>724794428>every "we can't do that, sorry" rule being broken to preserve playersYou can fuck Lalafells now?
>>724807095She teased my WoL though in that one cutscene in post-EW
>>724804432>it's basically high tech fantasy with the ability to create and do things out of next to nothingvery funny how two expansions back to back featured a resource that act like your description. don't think they ever mentioned dynamis at any point during DT though
>>724804252>I was getting it mixed with up FF14 where the 'mechs' and robots are in fact summoned demons or primals sucked into and repurposed to power the robots.14 doesn't do that
>>724807150>durrrrr they're 98% similar and not 100% so they're not similar at allHe fulfills the overall same character role as a high-ranking empire super-soldier turned traitor and a foil to the main protagonist, on top of having an identical goal of ascent to godhood
>>724807162>Sephiroth>brooding, angry, edgyFF7 Sephiroth is a nice guy who then turns completely batshit insane when he gets his ego shattered, and then he never speaks again for the rest of the game.Compilation Sephiroth is a smooth, smug bishounen who wants to fuck Cloud.Where's the brooding, Dobson?
>>724807195lalafells are free you know. you can just pick them up and no one will stop you
>>724807150He did it before. He'll fucking do it again. Not that anon btw but dude hit the nail on the head and both of these characters to a lesser effect have the Vader effect in the sense you don't need to be into FF or JRPGs to recognize them just as you do not need to be into sci-fi or star wars to know who Vader is.
>>724807204a single throwaway line so it is not an inconvenience for characters who didn't do the raid seriesyou're just proving the point
>>724803968>>724803285>cyberpunkNot everything scifi is cyberpunk. It's an extremely small sub genre that maybe had half a dozen source materials before it gained traction over the last few years. Hell before Cyberpunk was basically 1920's artdeco with computers and holograms. Modern Cyberpunk is just a less shitty LA.
>>724807225Dynamis can't do that in and of itself, bird loli was shifting around impossible amounts of it and was a creature purpose-built to shift it around. They aren't going to mention it willy-nilly because it's not relevant, it's still just Limit Break given an in universe name.
>>724807268deductive reasoning isn't a good look anon
>>724807051Sephiroth is to FF what the Lich King or Illidan was to WoW. If you're a gamer you know who all three of these faces are even if you've not played their games.
>>724807330they even voiced her :c
>>724807268Yeah they're both villains so they're practically the same character.
>>724807354>Not everything scifi is cyberpunkCorrect that's why we're calling it Cyberpunk and not some other shit.
>>724807414>>724807532You're booing me because I'm right, Kefka's similarities to Sephiroth on a writing level aren't even the only immediate comparisons between FF6 and FF7 you can make. FF7 is a second pass at making FF6 but without the awful Esper leveling system.
>>724807473>he's a great villain because he's recognizableso why is he recognizable?
>>724807604Why is Bowser recognizable?Congrats in deliberately playing retarded you answered your own question
>>724804252>bigger MSQ filter than Stormblood and ARR combined.People can talk about how EW did way more damage to the lore, which it did, but the sheer amount of pointless sterilized yapping in DT for how little actually happens or matters is going to be absolute suffering for anyone committed to reading all the cutscenes after going through 2.0 to 6.X.
>>724807584>dynamis can't create or manipulate anythingeh... it created that thing with the shitty cafe I didn't touch after the first day
>>724807584Calling it capeshit means basically any FF game with a limit break system is capeshit
>>724807684oh yeah, i completely forgotforget i posted anything, i'm a retard
>>724807662the original question was 'why is he considered one of the best'your answer was 'because he's one of the best'you sound like someone who stands in line for hours to get embarrassed by a dude like ben shapiro
>>724807584>dynamis can't create or manipulate anythingWe literally see dynamis do exactly that during the 2nd half of EW, the final stretch of EW is us walking through Endsinger's created space.
>>724807817>my framing is where I,want to keep itWhat Bowsers and Sephiroths does WoW have left?
>>724807584All magic functions through dynamis manipulating aether according to the caster's emotions. I will never understand how dynamis is this poorly understood.
>>724807854answer the question faggot >>724807051
>>724807884>All magic functions through dynamis manipulating aether according to the caster's emotions.No, lol. Where'd you get this from?
>>724807926Not only did I but several other anons did and you replied to them with continued retardation.I'm sorry your game sucks. Go post in its thread.
>>724807884no it doesn't, ancients use shit tons of aether they can't interact with dynamis
>>724807942From the game, the first and third lorebook, and the Nier collab written by Oda. I post the sources every time and none of you retards accept them anyway. It's pretty fucking tiresome.
>>724807854i don't think bringing up the game where the devs present the same same fucking dude from the RTS games as a raid boss 4+ times because the devs refuse to make compelling new characters is really an argument here
>>724807357the creation of elysion in the omicron tribe questline at the very least shows off a practical application of dynamis, by willing edible organic lifeforms and matter into existence via dynamis and dreams(?). the implications of what could be done with it from a writing stand point sounds headache inducing, so i wouldn't be surprised if they just ignored it outside of a throwaway line of dialogue now and again
>>724808048Anon if you're going to drop comment chains with me over and over do you really want to start up another loop?
>>724808043Post it. Now.
>>724808048Not my fault they exhausted all their greats and can't write a new one.
>>724807989Yes they can. They discovered dynamis in the first place because they were influencing the elpis flowers with their emotions. You see several cutscenes in the game of Hermes transmitting emotions through dynamis. What you're confusing yourself with here is that the Ancients' bodies are too dense to be penetrated by dynamis, an explanation for why Meteion had to attack their creations instead.
>>724808048Bro, we fought Hermes 3 times in one expansion...
>water can be manipulated by heat>wood can be manipulated by heattherefore, water is wood
>>724807854>WoWwho cares lmaoWoW's devs will bring back Kel'thuzad from the dead so you can kill him for the fourth time without a drop of shame on their face.
>>724795586>forever seething in purgatorydumb mhigger AHHAHAHAAHH
>>724808165
>>724808181why did you reply to my post to repeat the latter half of my post?
>>724807989They can influence it but not directly use it since they're so aetherically dense, I don't think the interpretation is supposed to be that dynamis is responsible for any emotional magic result whatsoever though since the whole point of the Ancients being that dense is they couldn't be directly influenced by dynamic effects in turn
>>724808332>KelthNot the same tier as Bowser or Sephiroth. Arguably not even a Birdo in the sense I don't think most people know Birdo's name unless they have directly played Mario.Garrosh even, not the same level. Illidan? Arthas? Cover art orc? The custom game DoTA? All of these are of a higher level of recognition by those who have never played the games.
>>724794428Its pretty obvious that SE is hitting desperation with the game, everyone knows it.The problem is cross glamours are cool, but they don't save the game or even really fix anything. Its just a nice to have.This boat will keep sinking, we have over a year of dawntrail left, and 2026 will only have one major patch lmao
>>724807557Which it is not. The key that makes something cyberpunk and not a different genre of scifi is, and stay with me here, that it's a dystopia.
>>724808109It does bear mentioning that dynamis does its craziest shit when it's at its probable highest concentration in the entire universe
>>724808505Nu Alexandria IS a dystopia
>>724808414Says something they can't write new ones anymore doesn't it? They've raidbossed every recognizable one before and nothing hits like the first time.
>>724807051>sephiroth was such a good villainif playing the 7 remakes have shined a light on anything about the games story for me, it's that he's really not that great or well written at all. I think I only liked him as a kid playing the original because he looked cool and killing Aerith was dramatic, there really wasn't much to him.
>>724795415I got booted from my static for finding the Funeral content to be ridiculous. Apparently me thinking it was disgusting and that their society should be facing repercussions for stealing and using souls was supporting genocide in Gaza or something. Hurt my feelings at the time, but the push it gave me to quit finally was a blessing in disguise.
I quit after SB, the post expac patches were shit. Was Endwalker any good? I know people disliked Dawntrail and i doubt till ever comr back to the game. But id at least like to watch a story summary if it actually went somewhere.Is raiding and classes still milk toast boring slop?
>>724808493Kel'thuzad was an example you autistic retard. WoW devs can and will pull shit from the deepest, brownest reaches of their ass to make you fight a character you already killed.
>>724808610>imfuckingplyingnext time just keep your comment to yourself, you'll look smarter
>>724808389>>724808165>magic is a skill that causes phenomena through emotion
6.0 was fantastic outside of the garlenigger zone and hermes slop. post endwalker was awful hiroi slop that foreshadowed the writing tier of 7.0
>>724808669The point is anon, they've blown their loads. All of them. They have rehashed their rehashes. My posts are more geared towards rubbing Wowfugees' noses in their own shit they they brought to the table.
>>724808635Then the Down With Cis bus parked across the street and its door opened
>>724808639>>724808735
I already had ancient fatigue from shadowbringers, endwalker kinda fell flat
>>724808679Sorry not sorry. He's just kind of shallow.
>>724808701
fire kate fire hiroir.
>>724808269>hermes (true, untainted form)>hermes (fucked up reincarnation)>don't remember the third onemeanwhile wow:>kel'thuzad, literally just a lich (level 60)>kel'thuzad, literally just a lich (level 80)>kel'thuzad, literally just a lich (level 60, post-squish)
>>724808869i didn't ask what the remake was. i asked what made him memorable in ff7
>>724804337Nah, it can't simultaneously be used to make a mega-city and be too hard to use effectively.
>>724808898
>>724808936>What made the villain that tried to convert you to his side, had sympathetic points before sympathetic villains were the majority, killed your waifu and manipulated himself into a position of world destruction so memorable?The fact he looks cool and has a 20 foot katana
>>724804131>>724804264>>724804397>electrope in msqhuh what? speeeeeen!>electrope in alliance raidsome shaman savage uses it perfectly after falling off the clifffunny
>>724808936I didn't even read your reply chain, I just saw in that specific post it was said he was good villain and disagreed. Original and Remake.
>the guy who always goes THE BREAK IN GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY FF 7 WANK is just some homosexual sephiroth fanboihaha weird revelation.
>>724809115But is he a popular, recognizable villain?
>Hermes (Forma de PETA)>Hermes (Forma de Rotador)>Hermes (Forma de Redditor)
>>724809057Sephiroth doesn't try to convert you or be sympathetic. The fuck? Sephiroth/Jenova spends most of the game just appearing as Sephiroth to bait Cloud to the reunion so Jenovaroth can eat him and become whole. Sephiroth as he was when he was alive is already dead by the time the game begins and he's functioning as the brain for a space parasite.
>>724808924>>don't remember the third oneZodiark, but it's fine. I'm half shitposting anyway. I just didn't like EW's handling of Hydaelyn and Zodiark at all and I'm still butthurt.
>>724809214The whole original he's trying to sow doubt in Shinra and doing so through sharing intensely personal information with Cloud, who if he ran off to his superiors, would never have had such an interaction with him again.
>>724808526the possibilities are obviously limited by the quantity of people who can access the ragnarok (high ranking sharlayan individuals and people closely associated with them), but theoretically you could just travel to ultima thule, will whatever piece of shit creation you want into existence then take it back to etheirys to use at your pleasure. the scions in the main story had to "sacrifice" themselves to alter its landscape, but bringing them back was such a trivial task that it would be worth considering using ultima thule for creating whatever the fuck if you lived in that world
>>724808389This contradicts the in game explanation of creation magicks which are thoughts in general given form. Summonings and the like are more degenrated verions of this which is why they rely on strong faith. >>724808701>>724808898These explain what beings that can interact with dynamis are called which the ancients who used aether based magics aren't. >>724808990This instantly invalidated by the existance of the ancients and ascians.
>>724804131>the whole substance should be radically changing eorzea. this is star trek level tech that can create anything like their replicators.After we are done with DT patches, we will never hear of this shit ever again, just like Dynamis.
>end the ancients story with EW>don't even make it 1 expansion before bringing back ascians
Dawntrail didn't create a single meme, make of that what you will.
>>724808639Is that a thing that basically happened, or...?
>>724809292No? He's trying to make Cloud doubt who he is to break down his personality so he'll bring the black materia. He never talks about Shinra at all.>who if he ran off to his superiorsHuh??? I don't think you've played FF7 at all and you're trying to guess at the story.
Is theyre an actual chance that in 1.5 years the next expansion releases it ill reviv the game?
>>724796475The worst thing I can say about Sphene is her motivations were too similar to Emet's
>>724809148Same as it ever was
>>724809343so we're pretending SPHEEEEEEEENE didn't happen now huh?
>>724809343I dunno, there was that SPEEEEEN stuffeven people waiting for hunts were shitting on DT openly shouting that
>>724809376It did not basically happen it did happen. I was subbed from 1.0 til .4 patch of SB and ive not come back except for one free weekend to find my FC dead.
>>724809343>SPEEEEEEEEN>rubber bullets>SMILE
>>724809295Cafe at the end of the universe questline in general is meant to foil the idea that you can just go to Ultima Thule and be a god or will whatever you want into existence, only does some stuff when some specific hopium is floating around and doesn't do everything for you
>>724809427>Huh??? I don't think you've played FF7 at all and you're trying to guess at the story.Correct. I am talking out my ass about bits and pieces of secondhand knowledge and spoilers.I'd like to point out I never said he was a good villain in what began a chain with another anon- but that he is recognizable to an iconic level. Show the majority of RPG adjacent players a fraction of his design and I truly believe the overwhelming majority would recognize who that is regardless of having touched a JRPG or not.
>>724809340He is LITERALLY unaccounted for.
>>724809343papa's peas...
it's only ever worth being subbed at the beginning and end of a new expac
>>724809343>>724809498>>724809564>>724809602>speak to wuk lamat cmon nigga. SPEEEEEEEEEEN
>>724809592Leader of the Winterwolves.
>>724809340if the alternative is whatever they fuck they did in base DT, i'm fine with going back to ascianslop
>>724809174If that's all it takes to be good, sure. I just find his writing lacking, and I can't imagine asking someone off the street why they like him ever answering it's because the depth of his character and not just that he kills your waifu.
>>724809613Dawntrail is super back-loaded this time around but it's looking an awful lot like the rush of shit coming in 7.5/55 will make me cum
>>724809613I mean i agree but it shouldnt be the case.
>>724809214Objectively best and most interesting interpretation of ff7, but I'm pretty sure they've buried Jenova under Sephiroth being the actual villain who literally got eaten by The Thing then took it over from the inside.Unless the new games have changed it?
>>724809613i've tightened my belt further than that. now i only sub at the start and blitz through the post-MSQ story using free login campaigns
>corvus is just a variantoof. i wonder if the scion b team guys trying to go to viking roe island will be a variant as well.
>>724798097>>724797621>>724798550ive been playing since ARR, i still like the game when i play it, but its been on a steady decline in quality since about 5.2 or so, casuals and shadowbabbys just didnt notice because they weren't invested enough into the game to recognize it until it became unignorable in dawntrail because the mediocre story wasn't enough to distract them this time from the terrible cycle and excuses for not just the drop in quality, but the drop in quantity of content, which for anyone who isnt a shadowbabby, has been an issue covid started, they never brought stormblood levels of content back.I will still resub, probably around 7.4, but thinking that the current lull is normal is delusional, in ARR the lull was in 2.5, in HW it was 3.3 and 3.5, in stormblood it was 4.4, in shadowbringers there wasn't really a lull i guess maybe 5.3 but it was still way more active than usual. in endwalker it was 6.3 and 6.5 with .5 being felt by most people. in dawntrail its been noticeable since about a month after 7.1. theres a small reup in activity each major patch, but then people get bored and quit again in 2-4 weeks.The game is in terrible shape, the fucking mobile game had more positive things to say about it than dawntrail which only really highlighted its failure. The cult around this game is obscene and the coddling of the worst players have irreversibly degraded the quality of every piece of content, at least i can still enjoy it in short bursts, but there is no longevity, and anyone in veteran circles can tell you the general attitude is reluctant acceptance because they will continue to appeal to the lowest common denominator and laud bare minimum investment like the glamour thing as proof they're listening (they aren't, they stopped around 4.4, and were only really listening to JP to begin with anyway)idk why people who barely put any effort into it and mainly just yap on discord while they afk in limsa like to pretend they like the game
>>724809770Corvus isn't a variant, we're doing a Kingdom Hearts Winnie the Pooh thing and going through a storybook
>>724809748Remakes have doubled down on the compilation version where Sephiroth is in control and Jenova is his pet.
>>724809680That's the thing: he's not a particularly compelling villain from what I can tell and brutalized is a mommy's boy crying about needing to be closer to the titty done wrong by the world againArthas is a retard too but despite that I'd call him the same level of iconic. A normie probably will recognize Frostmourne in itself if they're gaming adjacent while Masamune is much the same but I'd probably say "Washing pole?"
We still have no concrete evidence Beastmaster even exists in any capacity, we're 60 days shy of 2026. This was paraded around as an expansion feature and yet we are over a year into the expansion. I am convinced it got pushed back to be an 8.0 feature.
>>724796051Shut the fuck up you weird autist. Good things happen, people like good things. It's not complicated.
>>724809893We were told when it was introduced that it was gonna be at the end of the expansion because they'd only just decided what job it was going to be
>>724809991They never said it was end of expansion.
>>724809759Real shame, but he's the marketable villain people want to see kiss Cloud, I suppose.
>>724810035even if they didn't it was pretty fucking obvious from the lack of any assets including concept art, don't be silly
>>724809821The lull was in 3.0 (almost killed the game) and 3.1, falsefag.
>>724810093Shouldn't have teased it if they had nothing to show for it.
>>724809893halloween event had lyon and papaga.
>>724810158hurr durr
>>724809592I wonder how they can even reintegrate himHe's from a time in the game when the Ascians were just evil fucks who supposedly ate their own shadows for power, instead of body snatching ancient souls from the world before it was sundered.the lore on Ascians completely changed and he was forgotten about except for a throwaway appearance in the Alexander questline
>>724809821Dawntrail post patches have been worse than the 6 months after HW.Ivr literally been more bored with the small amounts of content compared to the no content of then.
>>724794428>playerbase only sees it as a positive and refuses to acknowledge the reason why it's happening nowmany such cases
lifting job/class glam restrictions but it's like... adding more blood to an already hemorrhaging system? my glam chest has been full for years and only holds enough for like 3-4 of my jobs despite me playing every job. not to mention only 20 glam plates and me personally having 4 retainers full of other glam. i really hope this shit gets reworked in 8.0 but i doubt it
>um excuse me chuddy are you HAPPY to be getting long requested quality of life updates?>didn't you know the game is DEAD! MR. STREAMERMAN SAID SO !!!! >STOP BEING HAPPY ABOUT CHANGES ARGGHHHHH IT'S DEAD IT'S FUCKING DEAD DEAD DEAD! STOP IT!!!I will never understand the mentality required to just hate a videogame with such fervor and for no real reason.
>>724809991does anyone have zero expectations for this job to be innovative or anything more than another checklist to fill out? i personally just expect it to be the red headed step child of BLU and SMN i.e. you collect "animals" just like BLU spells, and when you summon them in combat they do one (1) attack and promptly fuck off just like SMN's modern summonsthey clearly don't want us having a pet AI after the SMN pet got gutted. i genuinely don't know what else they're going to do with the job.
>>724810365not like you even have the blu mount or all the spells anyways so it doesnt concern you tranny
>>724810271Make him do something smart in secret until it's time to appear and simultaneously go full retard.Many such cases.
>>724810365The general laxing of how tight-assed they are about conventions (Phoenix Downs are now useful, job glamours are no longer locked, job reworks promised, raid designs are laxing back to stuff they haven't done since HW) makes me think BST is probably a test-bed for reintroducing pet mechanics somewhere else in the actual game
>>724808735uh whats wrong with the garlemald zone and my based boy Hermes...
>>724810340The game really needs a better glamour system. Even copying WoWs would be better. Unlock for glams any equipment model you've ever held and get you freely dye it.
>>724810354>hunger for MMO>low key/very obviously blame downfall of MMO 1 on MMO 2>refuse to sate hunger for new MMO on MMO 2>the serpent consumes itself
>>724810424Weird statement
>>724810491youre a faggot
>>724794428>>every "we can't do that, sorry" rule being broken to preserve players Like what?
>>724810474Using Beastmaster as a test-bed for reintroducing pet AI is too intelligent for CBU3.
>>724810340Why would your glamour chest still be full when removing job glamour restrictions means a metric fuckton of dupes can exit your chest, so many pieces are the same piece recolored for other roles
>>724810563why are you being mean
>>724810601He never said they couldn't lift restrictions, he said they wouldn't due to job identity. Obviously with all the glam available in the shop and the game that just goes against that it makes no more sense to hold onto that.
>>724810525What about DCUO's glam system where you instantly get free access to any gear apperance you've equiped previously and can change it at any time. You can also use earnable tokens to unlock glamours you've unlocked on other characters for the one you're currently playing
>>724810616This is kinda like believing Hildibrand isn't used as testing for cutscene choreography and facial animation
>>724810645because they often dye differently and most of the time those dupes can not be interchange
>>724809874Sephiroth isn't a mommy's boy, that's just a meme. He begins as a hero and genuinely nice guy even if he's a narcissist and thinks he's hot shit. Then he gets sent into psychic range of Jenova on purpose and she leads him to find out that he's a test tube baby made from a monster which shatters his ego. He copes with that by deciding that Jenova is actually an Ancient and he's the specialist boy ever to whom the entire planet rightfully belongs. So Jenova has him break her out of containment. Then he gets murked by Cloud, falls into the Lifestream and soaks up all the wisdom of the dead, and he and Jenova form a symbiosis and evolve into a more advanced parasite that's gonna eat the whole Lifestream.
>tactics trannies will run a 10 year old raid to get a poster for a decoration they wont even use. what a bunch of dumb cultists.
>>724810763those fucking retards, getting a new item
>>724810701I think they're moving in a direction of trying to make some add-ons irrelevant. I imagine they hope Glamourer will see less use if gear isn't job locked when the reason people use Glamourer to begin with is not wanting to go desync something for the drops. While this may sound absurd in an MMO FFXIV has cultivated an environment of laziness and nogrind for better and worse.
>>724795125Yes
>>724810752Ahhh, so that's why he looks like that and why Jenova wasn't the final boss despite sounding more worthy of it. Then again, I guess it is kinda the final monstrosity.
>>724810718A fair point but I think cutscene choreography and facial animations are markedly easier to develop than gameplay systems that have to interact with other gameplay systems.
.2 patches are so funny to me because when they put in the content casuals are clamoring for (they're using it as an excuse for as to why they treat the game as VRchat), absolutely NOBODY does it (cosmic, FT), but when they put in the raid tiers and ults, suddenly these casuals start bitching again as people come back to the game, be it subs or engagement; hell, people even came back for the PT+quantum race for a short period. even if it's only a extremely vocal minority that exists for its own reasons, the major one being XIV trying to appeal to both JRPG and MMO players, i will always applaud yoshi for not giving these retards the time of day
>>724810763im not sure what youre referring to
>>724810928The final boss is their combined evolution. The Jenova fights are named BIRTH, LIFE, and DEATH. Then the final boss begins with Sephiroth REBIRTH, which is the cocoon that Safer hatches from.
>>724810982Depends, really, making engaging cutscenes is legitimately hard for any developer since you need some cinematography chops on top of the actual software; it's why a huge part of the graphics revamp was a revamp of facial rigging and model attach-points on top of compatibility with the older rigging systems so they wouldn't have to go back and redo every single cutscene with the new rigging
>>724811018This is some Evangelion shit.
>>724810424>there is shit on my plate, therefore i must not only eat it, but lick the plate clean
>>724810474>job reworks promisedhttps://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fantasy-14/yoshida-interview-strength-of-the-hero"the players who already like the way things are can feel at ease that nothing is going to change for their experience. But we are trying to do something new on top of what we already have."when statements regarding job reworks are as vague as this, i don't take them seriously. people that are already content with how their job currently plays wouldn't be pushing for any major changes, and people who are pushing for said changes are dissatisfied with the current status quo for their job. until i actually see the changes, i won't expect 8.0 to radically alter the ShB and onwards job status quo
>>724811325It's not very vague, he's not doing a full rework of the actual underlying combat system"Every job gets a new sub-system to play with" is still a full and sweeping job rework, nevermind that capping off at level 100 means they have the first stable platform for a full job in the game's history
>>724810474>they're going to radically improve this game's shitty engine and 2.5GCD in the NEXT X.0 patch! trust the plan!lol comma lmao
>>724795016No offence but looking through these threads and the one on vg you would swear all you guys care about is modding your chars into weird erp sluts and just standing in limsa all day. The game would be dead if they listened to what the "community" would want.
>>724811418Nigga who mentioned either of those things
>>724795016MOUNTSMOGSPETSTITLESTOYSCHEEEEEEEVOS
>>724811086I guess it'd be better to say they're both difficult in their own ways but still there's so many factors to reintroducing a proper pet system. Making sure the game responds to your inputs properly and executing that command after being prompted to is the biggest hurdle obviously but also factoring in how much damage should a pet be contributing to your overall damage, making sure it's not super overpowered in older content due to wonky potency scaling, should the pet have HP and should you be able to heal the pet, how much damage should the pet take from boss attacks and so on.
>>724811641Mogs mounts cheevos we got emDrop crits on the boss we one shot emVizex with the Roe he's on bottom
>>724811660Yeah it's legitimately little wonder that the devs fucking hated pets and how they feel in XIV so much that they just scrapped them entirely outside of plopping down Eos as a mobile Regen for Scholar
I haven’t touched the game since 7.0’s MSQ ended. What have I missed and is it worth resubbing yet? Dawntrail was fucking awful in every conceivable way.
>>724811535>the post you're quoting is itself quoting a post that says "job reworks promised"How mindbroken are you that you can't even follow 2 posts?
>>724811498if you think /v/ and /vg/ is a representative sample of any community, regardless of the game, you are terminally retarded
>>724811812obviously referring to the seethe about 2.5gcd and bad engine, idiot
>>724811856If anything /v/ and /vg/ are the least representative samples on the whole of the internet for obsessing over The Community™ while pretending to also not be a part of the community
>>724811791You really haven't missed much.MSQ got marginally better in the patches, but it's a low bar. Occult Crescent turned out to be complete dogshit.New Deep Dungeon is alright at least. 7.4 is a month and a couple weeks away but who gives a fuck, it's just the raid finale.
>>724811791the """smart"""" younger brother almost kills himself to protect a cowa new bad guy shows up and has his master of plan of summoning a primal get ruined by a professional primal slayerwuk lmao strains herself trying to break down an energy barrier with her axe so badly she's bedridden for the foreseeable futurethat's about it
>>724811882Those are reasons why the job rework can't actually "rework" anything and is nothing more than changing your rotation slightly, you retarded ESL tranny.
Garrosh > any ziv loser
>>724812030>ESL trannymeme spouter detected
The 8.0 combat rework WILL save FFXIV's combat system and the population as a whole.
>>724812061nobody asked blizztroon
>>724812003don't forget the fantastic moment where sphene untempers individuals tempered by said primal by giving them a nice speech :)
>>724794428>every "we can't do that, sorry" rule being broken to preserve playersAre they making helmets work on Viera and Hrothgar?
>>724812102>gets completely BTFO and has no responseI accept your concession.
>>724812114Job reworks, not a combat rework
>>724812242They made a hell of a lot of hats (but not all of them) work pretty recently.
>>724812114>The 8.0 combat rework WILL save FFXIV's combat system and the population as a whole.By changing your rotation slightly, which happens every expansions and some major patches. Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>724801281>Abel LowgustA real chuckle left out my body
>>724812164You fear Garrosh because you know he would upgrade your axe wound from "unconvincing" to "lethal".But rest assured, killing such a pathetic whelp as yourself would bring the True Warchief no honor.
I'm in the mood to play Reaper again, how is it lately? Haven't touched it since Endwalker.
>>724812349>There are people who haven't realized his name is the inversion of Kain Highwind
>>724795719>Also the wowfags leavingWait numbers are so low it's just Legacyfags now?
>>724812114how anyone has hope in these devs making combat/jobs fun again after the superbolide change is sad
>>724812461If that's your character, i like you brother
>>724812452The same as it was then but with another finisher iirc
XIVtroons can't catch a break
>>724812430Your tranny devs hate him and hate how their players are obsessed with the supremacist racist bigot characters like Garrosh and Garithos. That's why Garrosh had to delete himself from the afterlife, so he could never be brought back to World of Modernaudiencecraft.Dilate harder and keep coping about it in the threads of superior games while you keep directly funding your devs' HRT blizztroon.
>>724812568...is it a cool finisher?
>>724812560Thanks m8
>>724812242yes, most of them work now. they are also removing glamour restrictions
Looking forward to the day I can glamour this on my Warrior while using a big hammer instead of an axe
>>724812658ye It's a cross-slash with your avatar, the first avatar attack you make after using the instant enshroud self-buff gets buffed and uses a different green effect, and you get access to that finisher
why wowtroons smearing their shit on the walls again? did their "game redefining" "xiv killing" housing system get nerfed again? how many rooms are you down to now, 3?
>>724812732Oh that sounds cool yeah
>>724812114>He doesn't know that YoshiP already said they are massively scaling back the supposed 8.0 'job rework'There's an interview and games journo article with the relevant information. No I won't look it up for you, yes you are shit out of luck and not going to get what you thought you were going to get.
>>724812732It's a mini version of the LB3. Perfection means 'the finish'. Or, The End.
>>724812716the pandemonium raid had a giant hammer weapon for warriors but i don't expect avatarfags to actually play the game
>>724811498You stand in Ul'Dah for ERP.
>>724812452biggest job flop of all.
>>724812987and you don't get /tells when you do the same
>>724812114>reworkyou'll take the DT DRG like "reworks" and you'll be happy
>>724813007I'd say PIC is the biggest yet.Pure caster with no heal, no res and lower damage than BLM
>>724813056I have a session per day on average.
>>724813121PCT was better than BLM for some time, didn't change until BLM revamp and PCT nerfs; still edges out in some scenarios but mostly in Ultimates because PCT is downtime king
>>724813121>lower damage than BLMDid they nerf it? I quit in 7.0 where PIC was OP
>>724812643Garrosh went out as a Hero, forever immortalized as the one silver lining of Shadowlands. Deadturd's silver lining will the last guttering spark that signals your next misadventure into lower subscription numbers and slower content cadence. No one will remember Woke Lamutt. They will never forget Garrosh. Y'shtola will only be known as a body pillow in some nerd's basement. Garrosh's Glory will live on forever.
>>724800398Heavensward was substantially worseShadowbingers wouldn't know that though
>>724813121PCT was popular but all the FotM fags who also mained SMN in EW moved to BLM because it's the new easy overpowered caster. PCT is kino.
>>724811498that's only true for the /vg/ general, absolute shithole
>>724813178Around 7.2 or so they gave up and finally nerfed PCT, they were trying to buff jobs up to meet PCT and it wasn't working out (this included some stuff like boosting tanks' aggro generation *again* because PCT could shit out so much aggro that even with the ShB tank changes making them untouchable aggro gods, they were getting aggro ripped from them by PCT being able to spam multiple enormous potency skills in rapid succession)
>>724812964I know, just haven't gotten around to getting it yet. The dwarf hammer is also good
>mfw people think 8.0 job changes will be good after what they did to BLM
>>724813223keep patting yourself about your "glorious past" as you do another BLM and trans rights humiliation ritual quest, wowtroonlast (You)
>>724813452
>>724813452They did barely anything to BLM in the grand scheme of things. Fucking up its AoE and making Fire 2/Blizzard 2 useless again when Endwalker made them useful was more detrimental.
>>724813452DRG as wellIt was a real nice "rework" removing jumps and later removing Nastrond uses, real fucking clever Job design, truly
BLM but especially VPR complaining is the biggest self report for being bad at the game, if you are competent at the job they change literally nothing. the only exception is if you were a spell line following parsetranny but using said lines were already a joke as soon as flare star got introduced
>>724808389>>724808701>>724808898>>724809326So basically, dynamis was a mistake
>>724812769you love wow because you think about it every waking moment
>>724813452Play the fucking piano and do less damage than the PCT drooling on his keyboard. Why the fuck would you think a job NOBODY FUCKING PLAYED was good design? Get over yourself you dumbass contrarian.
>>724813138is it actually good though?when i tried touring xiv, 98% of the community just did boring animations and noone wanted to actually write anything beyond cringe skype-tier 'sexting' commentary that deflated me like a shot tireidk if the post-mare exodus (if any happened) fixed the community or not, but it was fucking Dire a year or so ago
>>724813769This is virtually every ERP circle and even RP circles, good ones are one in a million.
Dawntrail was supposed to have>multiple variant/criterion>multiple ultimates>BLU and BSTAnd now, it's only one variant/criterion, potentially a second ult but not wholly confirmed to be in 7.5 just "aiming for", and NOT A SINGLE WORD about BLU.What the actual fuck happened behind the scenes?
>>724813726>WOW WOW WOW WOW>shut up about wow>WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT WOW HUH? YOU MUST SECRETLY WANT TO FUCK WARCRAFTStreat yourself to a nice glassful of bleach
>>724813551>Be dragoon, the job known for jumping>get some jumps taken away>replace with a charge attack>the charge attack doesn't even do damage
>>724813769The sort I get is good, I don't deal with people that suck at it.
>>724813452>people think there will be job changes at all and not another 120s AOE 1K potency nuke on the GCD attached to your 120s AOE 1K potency nuke from DT.
>>724813531what? blm aoe is more fun now then it's every been
>>724813879they decided they didn't give a flying fuck about multiple ultimates (streamer bait), BLU is probably for 7.5
>>724813893I like that English, Hernandez. Keep it up! Might keep that green card if you're lucky.
>>724813859no not really, quality is both common and expected in the secondlife/city of heroes circles that i frequentthat's why i'm asking you if XIV has unfucked itself, because it was genuinely just a gulf of lazy ESL's that wanted to bang low-effort animations for 5 minutes and move on (when i tried exploring it for a few months)i'm going to assume that's still the case then if you presume that to be the norm
WoW? 9 million players.Ziv? 9 million STDs shared among a few thousand players.
>>724813879We told you morons the game was in maintenance mode after Endwalker. But you actually believed the Emet Selch shill speech.
Should have fucking made XIV-2 instead of clinging onto a busted game made in 2007-2010 for PS3s.>but that's not true!Nigger 2.0 is an asset flip of 1.0, it's true period.
>>724813907>Leg Sweep lost its damage>Gap closers lost their damage except on (some) TanksArigato Yoshi-P-sama I hate it
>>7248140634chan is not your english paper and you will never recover from getting mogged by ESLs who grew up playing videogames and cartoons in english
>>724814095you think people dont know that? its cheaper to do the asset flip then to build a whole new games you midwit faggot. hell a lot of shit is right from 11
>>724795016The problem is that Ozma said hes working on another piece of content. Since Ozma-san is raidbrained hes going to make more normal content super hard and just piss off more people. Just fire him.
>>724814064The majority of people still suck at it, but if you recognize the telling signs such as an ultra low level character, talking to you in lowercase or doing nothing but dropping the code without a greeting or introduction of any kind and if conversed with further does nothing to specify what is wanted out of the encounter. A hyper-modded character that looks like shit (well your mileage may wary here) is also a red flag. People that are good at writing also tend to be good at character design because both require intelligence.
>>724812793He said if you're comfortable with the regular rotation you'll also be happy. Hes subtly implying we are getting something akin to limited talent trees like MoP. People who want the base rotation can keep it while others can alter theirs.
>>724814328you can avoid them*
>>724814370It's definitely some new system on top of things but I'm not sure if it'll be limited customization or if it'll be something on the par of job gauges
>>724814178not the flex you think it is
>>724814462effective enough for you to drop your tryhard punctuation
>>724812114you will keep your gauge building and spender and you will LIKE it
>>724814689>tryhard punctuationPunctuation is the absolute basis of any kind of writing you retarded subhuman.
>>724814095>SHITnant
