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>>724798795
Looks dogshit
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>>724798795
god I love scifi
technology is so cool
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>>724798795
>American bingbangwahooii
This shit is more childish than Pokemon. Playing soldiers and watching action movies. Niggas are living life as cardboard cutouts.
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seems pretty barebones... after playing a few rounds what else is there to see that is new?
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>Ack Tranners
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>>724798795
Anyone who plays extraction shooters should be thrown feet first into an active volcano.
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>utterly soulless, run-of-the-mill TPS slop

yeah i bet
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>>724798795
does it drain my bank account or something
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>>724801060
This is a good question.
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>>724799964
lmao
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>looting mk2
>ferro
>hairpin
>5 bandages
>2 shieldchargers + 3 in safe pocket
Yep, it's gaming time.
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I have extraction shooter fatigue.
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>>724801603
Same, game devs are so creatively bankrupt they can't even try anything new anymore.
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>>724798795
Nice lumen smearing
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Is 5 minute queue to space port normal? Jeez man.
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>>724802064
12-6am with team fill on, yes.
Be a man and play solo.
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>>724802064
No, servers are down right now.
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>>724802127
I haven't bothered with teams and never have even seen any. Maybe once but cant tell when strangers just meet up or they are partied.
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>>724798795
Blatant advertising thread
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>>724798960
>>724798917
>>724798795
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>>724798795
>$40 for a trash collecting sim
No.
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>>724802243
What game did you play today?
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>>724798795
>exit campers
Fatherless behavior, typically Russian.
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>>724801603
name 5.
hard mode: screenshots can't be mistaken for Tarkov if it were made for phones
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>>724802402
Hatch keys are incredibly worthwhile and give you so many options, once you hit max storage with cash, at least.
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>An entire genre based around betrayal and exploiting the goodwill of others

If there is a genre of game that is truly and genuinely satanic, it's extraction shooters.
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every new game that drops has indians that have to spam about it here

this game looks about as generic as you could possibly make something. is it just a 'the division' reskin? yeah well i dont care either way and i wont play it
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>>724802570
not it is quite beautiful, as a majority of people are teaming up in the game despite the possibility of betrayal
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>>724802781
It's almost like the game should have just been a PvE co-op shooter. A better, more polished Generation Zero.
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>>724798795
played it, uninstalled and returned to The Division on a fresh character (this game's grandfather)
I'll put up with Korean botters and German no-lifes for some actual soul in my game design, snow is perfect too as it just started falling here last week.
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Boomer here, what exactly is an extraction shooter?
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>>724803309
Basically just a shooter with full loot. You go into a map to loot it for gear and weapons and anything you successfully bring back is yours to keep (until you die with it).
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>>724802489
BF2042, Marauders, Tarkov, Level Zero, Delta Force, Ghosts of Tabor, Duckov, Warzone 2022, Hunt Showdown/NuHunt, Marathon, etc.
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>>724803309
Imagine before having fun in a stealth shooter you have to do a bunch of busy work crafting each piece of tactical grenades and weaponry before your actual skirmish.
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>Buried City solos
>Get the ESR for the quest, take the south extract that's a hole through to the subway
>holding
>some guy peeks hsi head up and doesn't see me moving into the train
>Equip the fresh Tempest i just found that i'm going to bank forever and never use out of cowardice
>Wait for him to try and sneak on, tear the flesh off him about as fast as i imagine an atomic bomb would
>he starts hiding while downed, wasting my time
>VOIP him and tell him to get on train
>Murder ensues as soon as he trusts me
That's how mafia works.
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>>724803236
this reminds me, we're apparently getting snow as a global event in december. I hope it looks nice. The monsoons/electromagnetic storms look really good.
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>>724803309
a shooter with the goal of escaping an area with loot before someone kills you. escape usually has a forced showdown timer where others are alerted that you're trying to run. people you meet can be friendly (yeah right) or hostile
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>just realized keys are single use
at least the score was solid
Blue Gate is a fucking beautiful map btw
and a couple people basically just conceptualized it from nothing
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So how does the wipe work? Is it mandatory? Kinda beat purpose of collecting all the blueprints and stuff
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>>724803808
Blue gate can't get them right now but it's worth saving your keys for night raids since the rooms have significantly better loot.
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>>724803601
Impressive. Not sure if I'd count the mini-games from COD/BF, but the only one I've actually seen is Duckov. Whatever happened to the Dark & Darker games?
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>>724803309
It's the new zoomer thing; they took an existing type of game and added social elements onto it despite the fact you're going to spend your entire time in a private Discord call. You go in with base game gear, find better shit in the field or kill other people for theirs and then leave. You leaving usually sets off an alarm or indicator to European Slavic/Hispanic players that you're leaving so they beeline to you and try to kill you and take your shit along with your ride home.

If you get out you can take your scavenged materials and engage in the thrilling act of crafting marginally better shit, buy stuff from a microtransaction store or just change out your old gear for better stuff you've extracted with.
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I really dislike that all looted weapons (from players or crates) are like 20-50% durability. For some guns durability doesn't matter at all (Anvil, Ferro, Opsrey) but for basically anything automatic I might as well be picking up a sack of money since they're far too expensive to repair and will break after one mag.
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>>724803309
>Boomer here
boomer here, you're not actually a boomer if you're pretending to have never played tarkov.
t. boomer that has to hear about tarkov constantly from boomer friends at birthday parties
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>>724803970
congratulations you've discovered a wheel to run on to keep you in the environment for longer, if they buffed equipment durability you would have no reason to keep grinding out money for repairs or be making excess money to spend on other doodads
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>>724803902
mb then we can swap them out for Red River and Quasimorph
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>>724803039
pvp is the spice that makes it exciting though
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>>724804227
Pvp fags ruin every dominantly pve game, you can see this in runescape, minecraft, WoW. Pvp fans should stick to pvp only games because they are one of the worst fanbases next to homestuck and undertale fans.
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>>724799120
>American bingbangwahooii

Arc Raiders was developed by Embark Studios: a Swedish company
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>>724799120
>shooters are for children
What kind of mental illness do you have?
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>>724804781
It's called puberty, he wants to show everyone how he is now a big boy
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Look at those numbers man
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>>724804227
There's nothing exciting about losing everything you had on you due to the actions of someone else. If a bot kills you, there is no-one but yourself to blame for it, but if a player kills you, there's a shit ton of cheese and underhanded tactics that can be at play.
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>>724802570
>/v/ is so desperate to shit on anything modern and popular it drags out the satanic panic arguments
Infantile.
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>>724804891
>not just a steam chart but assmangay
Excellent baito
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>>724804907
That was hyperbole, but there is an argument to be made that these games enable the worst kind of people in ways that other genres do not.
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>tfw
my asshole was clenched like a motherfucker
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>>724802062
At least you get 2 white men this time instead of 1 or none
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>>724804994
this nigga is being pushed onto everyone like piratesoftware was. cant wait for everyone to turn on this faggot
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>>724804417
the only pvp fags that play these games are ganksters. they can't play pvp, they just want to prey on carebears
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>>724798795
>3rd person pvp slop
>get shot around a corner because enemy is in the blind spot of your camera while you aren't in the blind spot of your enemy's blind spot
>psst nothing personel, kid
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>>724804094
>grinding out money for repairs or be making excess money to spend on other doodads
I mean there is basically no reason to repair stuff is what i'm saying. In almost all instances it's better to buy/craft a fresh weapon and re-upgrade it. The materials to repair a III/IV weapon are the same as what it costs to upgrade to that tier so you aren't really saving anything.

Money isn't really hard to come by, you can't do much with it either way though since a majority of things you want to buy are on daily lockouts for 1/2 items. Technically you can also just generate infinity scrap by loading in with a free kit and quitting out since it makes the chicken give you 20 of all scrap.
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>>724798795
>extraction shooter #5478678
>generic looking
>browns
Who couldn't love slop with slop like this. It's the best!
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>>724805026
I would actually argue that the people who persist with extraction shooters are probably significantly more well adjusted than people who "give up" because they're "hard". More of a blue-collar mentality, endure things that are shitty because you eventually get to experience nice things.
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>>724805579
It's not that these games are hard, it's that they are a perfect breeding ground for griefing. And while I'm sure everyone has anecdotal encounters with people who are amicable, that isn't really representative of the actual status quo, which is that if a player thinks another player has enough resources that they could profit from, they're going to attempt to kill them.

This in turn creates an (actually, not the meme) toxic atmosphere where you cannot trust anyone and therefore the whole social aspect of the game is poisoned.
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>>724806050
>griefing
Getting killed and losing your items is not being griefed anon. Likewise the "social aspect" of the game doesn't exist. It's a farce being perpetuated by people who do not play the game, or genre, and have mistakenly dipped their feet into it. It's in the same vein as people who complain that they can't play mafia/amongus party games because they aren't sociopaths.
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>>724805579
>>724806050
Just go play Delulu on Fortnite you can be friends with anyone or kill them, voice chat is encouraged or you will most likely be shot and killed and the screen puts a big shiny winner medal on the end screen if you make it to that point

it's pretty much everything you two are describing and looking for.
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>>724806050
My friend that I play with is bloodthirsty. He wants to treat everyone as "kill on sight". I'm fine with not engaging and he's only ever begrudgingly let people go if I talked to them first
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>>724806526
So you are the bait.
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>>724806464
Reading comprehension is at an all time low, such a shame.
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>>724806351
>Getting killed and losing your items is not being griefed

If an invader in Dark Souls deleted your inventory if you died to them, I'm pretty sure people would find that pretty awful game design and would probably choose to play offline. Those who enjoy extraction shooters have somehow convinced themselves that it is fun to not only lose, but to be set back in your further endeavors as well.
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i don't care about your streamer game of the month
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>>724803902
>the Dark & Darker games
they were all universally complete fucking garbage. for all the issues dnd had, it was playable, which none of the others could manage.
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>>724806751
No, hes tactically retarded and will rush people with a ferro and no side weapon
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>>724806775
Retard.
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>>724806765
It puts a big medal on your screen if your group makes it to the end and you can be friends with everyone and win without firing a shot or you can go full-ham on everyone and win via bloodshed. It looks like you're the one that can't read. No need to project onto others because you're mad or upset as it really shows you skin colour.
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>>724806874
Losing a level is not a big deal compared to losing equipment. And that's one touch-range spell with a long ass casting time, which is not even comparable to just getting sniped out of nowhere.
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>>724807021
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>>724806775
>now that your gear has been set to 0% durability I'm going to need you to spend the thousands of souls you just lost and no longer have access to to repair it or you just straight up can't use your farmed gear and are going to have to tough it out
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>>724801413
>hairpin and ferro
run kettle ferro combo like an actual pvp chad
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>>724798795
Wow! I've never seen gameplay like this before!
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>>724807240
kettle is fucking garbage
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>>724807110
>>724807189
>Acting as if using the scraping spear on new players wasn't frowned upon as a form of griefing
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>>724806930
You will act with him and support him in his brash decisions. You can go first and risk your kit in social scenarios. Bait.
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>>724807240
Nah, too balanced and doesn't fit into my stealth sniper roleplay.
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>>724806775
thats the thing, why are you focusing on how much you lose when you die rather than how much you gain when you kill someone?

you shouldnt go into this game expecting to lose, thats just negative thinking
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>>724807018
What if the intended gameplay IS to grief?
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>>724807240
>see people say they shred with kettle III
>upgrade on and use it
>does nothing
>die
>someone shreds my shield and hp with a kettle I
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>>724807331
I don't use Reddit or any of that faggot shit so I wouldn't know anon, I just play the game and utilized the system's messaging tools that the developers of the platform provided.
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>>724803309
Shitty PVP version of Payday without cool music or builds
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>>724807441
Then it's not griefing.
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>>724807331
Baby nail + scraping spear was applauded about as much as vow of silence. Just concede.
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>>724807323
kettle is the strongest tier 1 weapon for pvp
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>>724801413
>looting mk 1
>anvil
>herbal bandages
>shieldchargers
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>>724807530
The sticher is one of the best guns in the game, let alone tier. It genuinely only needs mag attachments to melt people in medium shields faster than any gun in the game.
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>>724798917
Dude I mouthed that just watching the WebM before even clicking the thread
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>>724807331
Killing someone that was AFK was griefing, spamming kick is griefing, not emoting is griefing.
Umm according to my new rules I just established as the Grand Master Of The Game And All Games In Its' Direct Lineage killing me or touching the controls when in my world if you're not directly summoned or commanded to by me is also griefing.

Good lord dude you must have been fun to play tag with or literally anything.
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>>724807429
Because at the end of the day, someone is going to get the short end of the stick, and I'd rather the stick not be so comically short to begin with. If I win, I've ruined someone else's experience, possibly for multiple matches, and if I lose, my experience is soured in turn.

It's just misery no matter how you look at it, and misery that could be easily sidestepped with some minor changes, no less.
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>>724807576
Fucking how? Every time I use it, it just tickles people and I die instantly. I can't even kill someone point blank while they're looting and I have the drop on them with it
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>>724807702
here https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/delulu your feelings will not get hurt if you lose and you can dance with your friends
now let the other people play their PvP extraction shooter
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>>724807576
stitcher is dogshit lmao
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>>724804227
mmmm nyo, if there's pvp it always becomes the focal point instead of a background thing
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i was on a free loadout earlier with a kettle and a light shield and i destroyed another player that had a medium shield + a kitted out arpeggio II. im literally still shaking and shitting myself from all the adrenaline
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>>724807768
the gun does 7 damage a shot. 12 on a headshot. It vomits bullets and has a 20 round mag. With a mag increase it's 25/30 depending on if you have access to green mags. 30x7 beats every shield + health combo in the game. Genuinely just don't miss, which is easy because you should only be magdumping people at like 10 feet.
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>>724807795
>My genre of choice needs to be CBT because how else will I prove to my social circle that I am a tough gamer?
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>>724807810
if pvp is in the pvp extraction shooter it becomes the focal point of the pvp extraction shooter???? what??? the fuck guys. can we get some1 to update treausre rates nd things like um guns and can we add some catgirls and like acaramelldansen and mayb just some less pvp
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>>724807795
It's not a feelings thing. Time is the most valuable resource we have on this fucking rock, and if I am to spend it on a videogame, I'd rather not have it amount to absolutely nothing because little Jimmy was hiding in a bush.
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Are the server working properly again, or still buggy with queues?
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>>724807576
sticher is bad but due to the recoil going insane after 5 shots, requiring attachments just speaks how good the kettle is for tier 1, there is also just an upgraded sticher purple weapon that is just better so you just got everything wrong
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>>724808119
Time is YOUR most valuable resource anon, I think that's the issue. You're poor
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>>724807702
Jesus christ, playing boardgames with you must be terrible.
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>>724808214
>recoil going insane
Huh?
>He thinks the bobcat is good
It's actually lower dps because it only does 6 per shot with 8 on a headshot.
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>>724808119
No, this game was clearly not made for you. If dying repeatedly in the Soulslike and having to learn enemy attack patterns makes you spike your controller and rage until you almost pass out then you are at fault if you continue to play and experience negative emotions. If you have ADHD and your library consists of arena shooters and CoDlikes and decide to spend $70 on a turn-based game and get upset because of the amount of reading and waiting around and get mad you can't get your $70 back as you are outside of the refund window, then guess what that is on you for knowingly buying something you probably were not going to like.

I work 9-12 hours 5 days a week anon and have to feed everyone when I get home. I don't come home and decide to shovel my own shit into my mouth and pull faces when I don't like the taste, I sit down and play something I am going to enjoy with my couple of hours of spare time.
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GODDAMNIT LET ME IN ALREADY FUCK THESE QUEUES
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>>724808254
Look at this bozo who thinks he's going to live forever.
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>>724807702
in any other thing where people compete there will always be 1 winner and a whole bunch of losers, you cant change this
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>>724798795
this game beat the new marathon and nubungie devs are shitting their pants
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>>724798795
>>724798917
I don't care and this
What an ugly game
Swedes are truly subhuman
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>>724808424
It's almost like the argument started when a claim was made that extraction shooters only attract certain kinds of people. Glad you caught up, though.
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>>724808402
actual dps comparison? I believe it but that'd be so silly
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>want to play comfy solo
>get put in a squad anyway
meh
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>>724808653
So you're just here to shovel shit into your mouth and complain about the taste?
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>>724808424
well said anon, the faggots complaining about the game can't grasp that they aren't the target audience. I like games with nerve wracking gameplay that have an addicting progression system like this, it's the only way I can still feel anything while playing multiplayer games
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>>724808491
But what can be changed is what losing actually entails. Someone who wins a marathon gets a medal that is fancier than those on the second or third place, but that's it. There is no additional punishment to losing, like there is in an extraction shooter. (The primary failure state being dying and having to requeue, and the additional punishment being losing everything you had on you.)
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>>724808472
If you need to live longer to make your time worth it then your time on the rock isn't the problem. It's you. I could spontaneously combust today and I'd feel accomplished/fulfilled.
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thinking of going in solo to kill arcs and not to loot anything, but doing all that shooting will attract people to my location I would imagine, even if it's outside away from looting spots... really need some arc parts for the bench upgrades, I have a fuckton of crafting materials but can't craft anything useful, even have two really good guns that I can't repair because I need a better bench for the parts to repair them with
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Do you really need anything more than this /v/?
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i don't even know what an extraction shooter is because i've never played one but nothing I've seen about this game excites me in the slightest. Fine if you find this interesting, but I guess I'm just out of touch.
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>>724809043
just play it for two hours and if you don't like it refund it, that's what steam refunds are for
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>>724809043
Thank you for your input anon, such trenchant insight.
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>>724808858
all the time you spent training to get number 1 is wasted and no one shoots for n2
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>>724809003
bring less ammo desu unless the idea is to stomp other raiders and not loot anything
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>>724808681
Yeah, the server crash reset the queue settings which also caught me off guard.
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>>724808859
That's not what was implied at all. What was implied is that time is precious, so if you are going to use it on something, you better get something out of that time. Spending half an hour looting and then at the very end dying and not only losing what you looted but everything you had on you, effectively ending up in a worse state than when you started is a complete waste of your time.
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>>724808858
I know that feel dude I was playing DOOM(1993) and died and lost my BLUE key and my RED key it was so fucking unfair I got sent all the way back to the start. I had to reload the whole fucking level and everything, developers should do more to address players like myself, maybe consider adding checkpointing or save states to prevent me from having to slog through the ENTIRE level again? Honestly have never seen a more unfair system in place and hope this developer crashes before they release more torturous garbage like this
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>>724809003
>only 4.6 kilos left for loot
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>>724809173
>>724809198

The idea is that I can shoot the torrente insanely long and then when whatever i am trying to kill is dead, the spent ammo frees up kilos for loot.
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>>724809180
try out https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/delulu it seems more worth your time, you don't lose anything at all if you die and you can actually come away with some pretty tight friendships even if you lose!
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>>724798795
Looks cool, but I’m not touching an extraction shooter.
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I'm not too big on extraction shooters but man, the sound design, graphics and just the world they created in this game are pretty damn good I have to say. It feels really immersive to just run around in the rain doing looting or sneaking around at night raids, its kind of a waste to just have one game mode for this kind of foundation, the director said the same thing in an interview right? I think they should do like a survival mode in the future where you have to deal with weather mechanics along with hunger and temperature meters and shit, there's a lot of potential here
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>>724809003
>dies to my anvil
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>>724802402
>WRYYYYYYYtard squisher
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>>724809472
I have met many of your kind and they all have died while cocking their hammer back for the second shot.
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>>724809382
hi you're referring to https://store.steampowered.com/app/556470/Tom_Clancys_The_Division__Survival/
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>>724809003
>shoots at you from more than 20 feet away
Now what megabrain?
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The fuck is wrong with these queues. Got stuck for 15 minutes in one and then it fails. I try again and I join a team of 3 while my matchmaking was set to solo?
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>>724809559
nobody gives a fuck about the division any more gaylord
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>>724809559
Yeah, exactly like that, but arc raiders has a way more solid foundation than The division so it would work way better here
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I'll just play Generation Zero and get the exact same experience without faggots running around to kill the mood.
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>>724809551
first shot comes from the shadows
second shot comes from behind you
nothin personal kid
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>>724809715
God I fucking wish. That game had choice aesthetics but all of the shooting felt so terrible.
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Sell this to me, a gamer that doesn't particularly love multiplayer shooters but does like shooters -- I've never played an extraction shooter but respect the autism of tarkov and whatever. What is special about this game? Soloable?
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>>724809840
>Sell this to me
You'll have a blast
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>>724809003
why two shotguns?
do they blow through their durability that fast?
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>>724809840
sorry anon but I really don't understand why you or anybody needs selling on any game, just buy and refund it if you don't like it within the first two hours, it takes 20 seconds to request a refund
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>>724809923
You're not doing a good job.
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>>724810086
A blast.
Up your ass.
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>>724809840
The Ai enemies are threatening enough so you aren't instantly gonna be PVPing when coming across players and AI enemies at the same time. Should someone be dumb enough to do that they usually get punished themselves about half the time
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>>724810014
anon, you need to stop sniffing glue...
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>>724810079
It would take more time to watch some random youtube videos from normies I don't trust, buy and download, set up and get the game running well (midrange rig), then try it and decide if I like it (while being a total genre newfriend) than it would for someone here that really likes it to tell me why. I mean unless everyone who likes it is as gay as you.
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>>724810164
wat
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>>724810014
I left it in my inventory after a raid because my stash is full
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>>724809840
The other players are some of the most advanced AI opponents out there. There's a fair amount of items and ways to interact with people and freak them out or spook them.
I personally love to stalk players for as long as I possibly can and then I decide whether to kill them after they've looted everything or just scare the shit out of them.
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>>724799840
Theres different maps. Different guns to try. Theres giant bosses than randomly spawn. And youre constantly updating your base and stash space to bring stronger stuff to take down bigger bots. But pvp is always fresh. People still playing sf2 that came out in 96
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>>724810151
>>724810268
So PvP is not necessarily discourage but not always a bad idea? What are the point of the AI enemies (like are they guarding shit?), how long are matches, is there a circle or something, what side objectives exist etc?
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>>724810151
>trying to kill wasp with grenade for quest
>some cunt rolls up and tries to ice me
>all i have is ferro
>rushes me
>take out his shield but he downs me while the piece of this is reloading
>he didn't realize there was a rocketeer on the other side of the building that i moved toward as he pushed me
>goes to knock me out
>rocketeer blasts him
>he makes a break for extract
>rocketeer blasts him and he goes down before he can call the elevator
get fucking rekt faggot
>>724810534
solo queue there are a lot more friendlies than you'd expect
the AI is really good and fun to fight and can kill you pretty quickly so if you're just doing quests most people aren't killing on sight but some do
the game's a lot of fun, and there are free loadouts (and if you survive a raid with a freebie you can trade it in for a proper loadout augment too) and the loot is either used for crafting, gear upgrades, hideout upgrades, or money so a lot of the design decisions the devs made either intentionally or unintentionally steer the player toward being friendly more often than pvp
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>>724810164
did you somehow miss the second shotgun in the image?
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>>724810849
>rocketeer blasts him and he goes down before he can call the elevator
Bad news anon, he can still calls the elevator while downed.
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>>724810534
Solo games are usually very friendly, especially on the first map. I've seen a group as large as 8 players roaming around together, and most people use their microphones. There are shout commands you can use too so you don't need mic. Later maps in solos are more 50/50 on people just shooting on sight without warning. Group matches are inherently more bloodthirsty, expect PvP in groups.
The AI bots are typically guarding high loot areas, and they also drop essential loot. Looting the bots is necessary to amass shield chargers. They also drop great grenades for fucking other people over.
Matches are the most 30 minutes, you must extract within then or you die. Sometimes you can load in to certain special "themed" matches (more plants growing, thunderstorms, etc.) with shorter timers, I've seen 17 minutes on load in before. Of course you can just leave immediately and be in and out within 5-8 minutes but you won't be able to get much of value.
No circle. Bot presence increases as time decreases and available exit points decrease.
Side objectives is just doing quests and shooting things and other people for fun
I think first major content update is December sometime, we'll see if it's still as fun then.
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>>724811052
the hatch wasn't open, he was running to call it to extract
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>>724798795
Can't they all just stop firing? What's the point when no one's going to loot anyone anyway?
It's all just fake adversity.
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>>724798795
The one thing that puts me off this game is the third person perspective.
And that it's a 40€ game with day 1 microtransactions
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>>724811186
You can press the button to call it, and then crawl inside to actually type the shit in. You can even use the raider hatch keys while downed. You can crawl around for 80 seconds I think, and it takes 40 for the elevator to come up
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>>724798795
Im HaViNG a BlAsT TM
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i just killed a guy who had a torrente inside a building with a fucking KETTLE
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>>724811539
Torrente is kinda shit, Sticher clears. Also the jump from Light to Medium to Heavy armor is massive, if he was running Light and you had Medium you were winning every time
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Are the servers fucked for anyone else?
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>>724811639
i was on a free loadout, we both had light shields. he just missed a shit ton of shots, no idea how, we were both like 10 feet away from each other
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>>724811710
The game is hitting another peak player count and the servers aren't handling it well
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>>724811710
Yes
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>>724798795
Is there even any gunautism in this game?
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>>724811710
>had to enter dicksore for this shit
ur welcum
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>>724811937
>Swedes
>Working on a sunday
They're lying.
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>>724811735
guess he didn't read the crouch bit
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Player economy / trading hub?
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>>724812091
Gun fucking sucks
Loud, heavy, inaccurate, makes you immobile, completely countered by corner peaking. Plus, the a stitcher/rattler will do comparative damage in a straight on fight since you can actually aim for headshots.
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>>724812283
I find that with mods on it, it's a shitter melter. It's a defensive weapon though. Don't expect to use it to kill people who aren't already trying to fuck you up.

If you have a medium shield you just whip that shit out while they're reloading after unloading on you and fucking blast em
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Day 1 of calling for the Hairpin to use Medium Ammo
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>>724798795
The characters movement animations in this game looks like they were copypasted 1:1 from the bounty hunter classes in Battlefront 2 (2017)
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>>724812449
Hairpin should have a ridiculous headshot coefficient
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>>724812535
I am 100% the stealthyboi silent sneaker playstyle but I can't help but bring my trusty Anvil in most raids for how effective they are against ARCs
if the Hairpin were at least good for PVP via headshots it would be super fun but it just doesn't really stack up
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>>724812739
You can just put a silencer on your anvil anon
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>>724798795
Nice you wrecked that exit camping son of a bitch
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>>724812823
i'd have to find one or unlock whatever level of gunsmith allows you to craft it
only lvl 14 and gunsmith 2 currently
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>>724812523
I thought the same. They bet on good will from EA not to take action. Sprinting animation is identical to BF1.
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>>724812929
Its all blueprints, I can make silencer 1 which is 20% less noise. Silencer 2 is 40%. My Purple shotgun silencer does 50% reduced noise
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>>724803868
it's a dumb system, there are periods of time within the 'seasons' where you can depart on an expedition if you've completed it up to the necessary progression point, which will reset all your progress and grant some temporary bonuses until the next 'season'. they should've just had 3 month seasons with wipes. no reason for them to have tried to reinvent the wheel here. what's annoying is them giving the players a "choice" on whether or not they want to wipe/reset progression is that because it gives bonuses it's basically almost soft-forced.

there was really no reason to change the system from other games. it's not like your casual andy dad gaymer is going to complete everything in like a week. although there are people out there who have already dumped like 45 hours and pretty much unlocked all stations and completed expeditions just waiting for the departure window.

expeditions basically reward insane efficiency, because your stash and shit gets wiped out. so the game becomes less about the shooter part and more about the how can i quickly get my trash stockpiles back up
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>>724812523
embark was founded by DICE devs in 2018 so it might be the same animator.
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I feel like if you want to do quests or Feats, the best is to just roll Free gear and bum rush the objectives? Maybe the game needs a bigger penalty on death so people are incentivized to bring their own shit. But that would be against the spirit of the game I think.
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>>724813021
>temp bonuses
I thought the stash size and skill points were permanent. If they aren't, then its actually pointless. They said the skill points would still have a cap so you can't get all the nodes.
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>>724813021
So Expedition means wipe and some bonus (which we don't know what it is) and no Expedition means no wipe?
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>>724813021
fuck off, the idea of wipes is fucking dumb and everyone copying tarkov is retarded and doesn't understand that tarkov didn't implement wipes as a gameplay feature but as a temporary solution to their problem of developing the game and testing the effects of their changes on the game and the economy
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>>724804471
>a Swedish company
Even worse.

t. swede.
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>>724813175
They are permanent for the new character, but they don't stack. You get the bonus for the character after the expedition, but you can't do 5 continual expeditions and have x5 bonus
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>>724802062
Every UE5 game has identical generic human characters. It's somewhat strange... oh wait it isn't strange devs are just lazy and incompetent and are using that human builder supplied with UE5.
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>>724813175
>>724813248

it's not really clear yet. there's in game descriptions but i havent seen anything official in terms of the game having actual seasons or whatever. there appears to be a 60 day period between departures? the official in game text says this:

Completing an Expedition gives your new Raider lasting advantages until the next Expedition departs. These include increased XP gain, extra Scrappy materials, increased weapon repairs, and more stash space. You can also earn bonus skill points based on the value of items in your stash on departure.

my understanding from reading some posts was that there's carry over of the "temporary" bonuses from departure to departure, such as the skill points, but i THINK there will come a period where some of the "permanent but temporary" (???) bonuses go away - indicated by the phrase "lasting advantages until the next Expedition departs".

who fuckin knows. game's mid af
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>We're getting snow maps in december
Divisionbros...we're so back
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>>724813472
You get the bonuses until the next expedition. i don't see why everyone is so confused lol.

its:

depart -> wipe to new character with bonuses and play -> next expedition happens, if you don't depart you don't keep the bonuses or get a new character with bonuses for the current wipe.
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>>724813257
Nah wipes actually solve the main issue of this type of game getting stale. I can already craft purple weapons on demand and its not even been a week. People are abusing endless Spotter spawns and getting 1 million coins already. Everyone restarting and having all the encounters feel fresh again is good for these games.

and its not like Tarkov didn't see how POE1 was doing leagues and copy that. People naturally leave, a new league comes out and people come back since its fresh/even ground. The best time to play Tarkov is first month of wipe, and the same for Arc. In a few months even the casual players will have run out of shit to do and just be PVPing with weapons they can craft on demand.
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>>724804471
>swedish company
>life service games
Ohnonononono...
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>>724813684
>i play the game so much, why is there nothing left for me to do
fuck you and everyone like you
also there's new content coming in a couple weeks, with more in december so it's not like the game as it is now is the all the game will ever have to do
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go back to discord nigger and take your shill bot thread with you
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>Developers are swedish
Really? fuck...I just stopped playing Helldivers 2 because of the fucking absurd stupidity of those developers and they're swedish too...
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>>724813827
I'm not saying there is nothing left to do, in fact the departure system gives me more to do than similar games.
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>>724805363
There's a relevant screenshot with him for literally every thread because he just latches onto *current thing* like the parasite he is.
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Am I crazy is when I increased my stash my filled slots also went up by 10. I was literally just selling shit.
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>>724814302
>when I increased my stash my filled slots also went up by 10.
Could be stuff from your character backpack returning to stash.
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best place to farm blueprints?
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>>724813827
shut up dumb faggot. the level of autism and skill required to get to the same point of wipe completion between arc and tarkov is not even close. and i dont mean completing the lame expedition in arc. i mean, completing all tasks, unlocking all progression, and having a stash full of end game equipment. if you think a total tarkov noob is going to get there in 40 hours you're insane. arc hasnt even been out for like 4 full days yet and people are already waiting to go on their expedition aka wipe.

you should feel bad for having such a retarded take
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>>724813861
This game is infinitely more polished than HD2. Only similarity is that the servers are down the opening weekend
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>>724807429
Because not everyone wants to practice aiming the fucking digital gun like every other shooter in existence to compete with tryhard comp faggots.

I’d rather spend 15 minutes fighting a big boss enemy using my scrap crafts and environment to my advantage than play tag with some asshole who just decided that shooting at me is the only purpose of this game. Its not fun. You have literally thousands of other games for that. But you HAVE to make it about you wherever you go, its always about what comp niggers find fun to the detriment of everyone else. Kill yourself nigger.
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>>724813675
but there will be some kind of cosmetic right? its like prestige in call of duty
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>>724813827
>>724813827
There should be a mid point of 30 hours in I got done with all the quests, which really didn't provide me with any long-term benefit anyways and ALL the ingredients for blue/purple weapons being pretty readily available, to Tarkov where 100 hours is not even getting to Lightkeeper.

Arc's best quality is fast matchmaking unironically.
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>>724814678
Locked rooms at night
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>>724814705
Kek, yeah, the gunplay here completely shits on what HD2 has going on especially after all the dumbass changes those developers made to the game, it really feels like they couldn't make the game fun if their lives depended on it, there's like some fucking parasite inside the brain of those people that make them incapable of buffing things that clearly need buffing or just making changes in general that benefit the player's fun and interactivity, they're allergic to it
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>>724814798
cosmetic rewards seem to come from the trials track, not expeditions
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>>724813675
>It deletes all your blueprints.
Lmao. No. I will NEVER go on an expedition. Zero fucking chance.
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>>724814678
>>724814878
Yeah the power rod room on Dam is actually really nice since you can craft power rods. However it seems everyone is fucking doing it now so if you get a bad spawn you are always too late
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>>724814981
"haha bro just keep getting better every wipe increase your efficiency bro"
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>>724798795
I don't play FOTM games. That webm also isn't the most awe inspiring.
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>>724814798
>>724814893

No, there will be cosmetic rewards for doing it, they just havent said what yet.
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>>724814981
Blueprints aren't that hard to get, i kind of like that they're random so you have to adjust your playstyle to what's available to you, or make good choices with what you find.
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>>724798795
I saw this clip on tiktok earlier
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is it normal to be stuck at the 'in queue' splash screen for more than 10 minutes?
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>>724814681
post your arc completion
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>>724815579
Aren't hard to get, right now. They are looking at how people are playing and will nerf/make shit more rare.

No way the Anvil stays being a green blueprint, it will become more rare.
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>>724815872
Join the discord. Server is fucked right now.
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>>724815915
I wish they'd employ the icefrog tactic of just completely changing all numbers every update so things never feel settled and stale, devs are waaay too conservative with their precious little balance.
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>>724815901
??? i never said i completed the current offering? i never claimed that im a 45 hour arc has no content andy? the fuck. outta my face faggot
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>>724803309
You spend countless hours to hoard really good items that you never use because you're afraid to use it and the one time you actually do you get merked by a team of spics and lose your legendary item you took 48 hours to unlock.
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>>724804891
>a smelly low IQ white retard with awful political takes in front of a steamcharts post
Move his faggot ass.
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>>724817060
Stop eating rotten food, angry boy.
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>>724816934
This. I found THREE snap hooks last night within an hour. I am honestly terrified of using it because as soon as I do someone will see and be like “I want that”
I’m excited for the pve only mode. Its inevitable, compfags.
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>night raid
>literally just peacefully collecting flowers for the trial thingy
>get jumped on by not one, but two free loadout retards on two different instances
>both of them had rare blueprints on them
literally what even compels these people
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guess I'll go watch tv
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>>724798795
>shoulder switching
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>>724817362
tl;dr? whats going on
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>See someone in the distance
>Stalk them
>Shoot them once to pop their shields
>Fuck off

Hehhehehehhhhh
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>>724817478
sunday. everyone has time off. servers slammed.
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>>724817478
servers are getting assfucked by the record concurrent player count, as per usual
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>>724817641
>>724817594
Really? Looks like it just 350k player
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BUY.
A.
FUCKING.
AD.

ACK TROONERS
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>sitting in room at top of ladder
>see someone climbing up that didn't notice me
>walk to edge and give eye contact
>he stops and just waits for it
hehehe
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>>724817708
you must be a pretty fuckin special individual
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>>724818307
The game literally has just 350k players, even single-player indie shit managed to amass more
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>>724798795
so does a double quarter pounder with cheese and a large fry
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>>724818381
holy moly...
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>>724818381
Jesus Christ man, I'll just leave you be
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>>724816934
maybe if you actually played the game instead of ratting for those 48 hours you'd be able to fend for yourself against the spics coming to take your shit
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>>724818381
>single-player indie shit
are you retarded?
that games doesn't require online multiplayer infrastructure
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>>724818583
>juan is upset
Kill yourself
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>>724798917
FPBP
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Starflop also managed to scam million of people and 300k+ active players

SOON.

Not buying your $40 woke DEI FOTM streamer shill game.
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>>724818583
How am I supposed to lock in and be a perfect player when pvp combat happens once every 2 fucking hours dumb bitch?
Thats why your dogshit cancer pvp belongs in dogshit cancer fps games like cod and battlefield. Go play those nigger.
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>>724800059
Yeah, I feel that way too
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>>724798917
I wouldn't say dogshit, but it does look like the same exact fucking third person shooter we've been getting for the past 15 years.

Not interested. Make something new ffs
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>>724820142
just follow the gunshots around the map you stupid retard
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>>724798795
bought this for 30 bucks and after 8 or so hours of playtime I'm already bored of it.
>get into match
>loot stuff
>nothing happens
>extract
that's like 80% of the matches I play. I think extraction shooters are a nice concept for retards that aren't able to realize there's no point to any of it
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>>724805363
lol he's been popular as fuck for ages, you living under a rock? definitely not gonna get piratesoftwared, that guy was an actual piece of shit retard. Assmongoloid just triggers people here because he gets paid to rot and talk about dumb shit
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>>724820523
>no point to any of it
wait till you see the rest of all games in existence
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>>724809840
>Sell this to me
>doesn't like mp shooter
no you retard, this is the absolute worst piece of shit for someone that doesn't like multiplayer or pvp, really how stupid are you
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>>724820651
fuck that. Single-player games give me an experience that will stay with me until I pass away (if the game is good ofc). Memorable stories, memorable bosses, memorable puzzles, memorable music, all cool stuff
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>>724802062
In the play test for me it was bottom right with long blonde twin tails and a female body. A majestic nigga, if you will.
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>>724820368
No? Why the fuck would I? Theres zero incentive to, I want to explore and loot, not sweat it out with tryhard 17 year old nigger high school students
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>>724802228
Game does its best to match you depending on group size. If you're solo you'll mostly only ever find solos, and the odd time you get teamed it was most likely people meeting up mid game.
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>>724820863
You’re stupid. The music and sound design in this game is 11/10, so are the detailed maps and environments and different combat arenas that emerge out of how varied each map is.
Again, its just yet another obese burnout bitching on the internet.
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>>724821238
damn anon why are you so defensive? did you work on the game or something?
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>>724821161
Good. I like that. I'm going to try some pub games tonight. I feel like I know enough to be an okay teammate. Not being able to get yourself back up is brutal.
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>>724819938
Starfield was successful because it was the only non DEI and antiwoke game released. Now people want DEI in their games which is why it flopped.
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>>724810481
>comparing a skill based game to a grind 2 win game
Lol
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>>724798795
how many players spawn in the maps? is solos/squads the same amount of spawns?
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>>724804227
*fair PvP

Extraction shooters rely on unfair PvP, which is skill-less and boring. Woopdedo, I killed three people by camping a corner who had free kits while I had better gear. Thrilling.
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>>724814885
You dont play video games and it shows
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I'm so glad I didn't fall for Nexon's obvious shill campaign.
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>>724821845
They won't say but it's probably around 20.

Squads have different spawns and there are obviously fewer of them
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>>724822251
nta but you seriously cannot defend Arrowhead when it comes to "balance". being contrarian on this would be worse than admitting to not playing video games.
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>>724820624
He triggers me to no end yes, because he is one ugly motherfucker who is considerably dumber than I ever was at any stage in my life, he does fucking nothing all day just saying dumb shit but he has a massive following and gets paid for it for no reason, while I don't.
What reason is there to not seethe about a retarded motherfucker like this?
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>>724821814
>leave zone after grabbing a rubber dildo or fixing a fuse box
>grind2win
??? have you tried not overextending while equipped with wet socks against a killer robot like a retard?
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this is a very good sign for growth:
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>>724823372
that's a lot of gay people
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>>724823372
servers imploded too, it would be way higher if people could get in and play easily without waiting in queue.
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>>724823712 >>724823695
no doubt.
game is a massive success, and would be way higher if you didn't have to cut your dick off to get in a lobby
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>>724823695
discord troons are not 99.9% of extraction shooter players.
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old school fps/shooter revival:
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>>724823695
kek
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did anyone actually manage to get into the game? how long were you in queue?
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I hope arc raiders fails. I hate this game.
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>>724798795
>generic realistic graphics slop
:yawns starcastically:

I dunno, doesn't seem that fun to watch
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>>724825540
Go play your switch 2 games manchild.
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>>724802570
>It was PvE co-op but the chinamen hated the idea of working together so they made it PvP betreyal to max out their cheat subscriptions they aleady have to Finals
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>>724798795
Im curious if the liveserviceslop infinite shilling this game is getting can stand the test of time and last more than a week. People don't like extraction games let alone games where extract killing is praised. If this holds the same numbers even 3 more days I'll be impressed.
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>>724823695
Its a public discord of course its gonna be riddled with fags and trannies
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>>724803309
You go to Wal-mart armed for groceries except you have to fight off feral niggers to defend your groceries trying to make it out or hope you run into another human that can speak English to work together.
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>>724825582
go play your mario games you fucking big touper
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>>724825836
It will be at 150k players in the next 2 months and by 4 months 100k, then 50k in 6 months and then 25k in a year. Then further after that its really a questions whether it goes below 10K or keeps a stable playerbase.
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>>724825836
exploring the world and getting diff loot and running into diff scenarios is always interesting: this is like a less sweaty tarkov (which heavily focuses on pvp).

the nature of extraction shooters means each run is different, so it won't get boring. same with other multiplayer games like pubg/etc.
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>>724798795
Imagine being so obese you elevate your heart rate from playing a video game
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>>724826015

you're optimistic. I was thinking below 100k after new years
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>>724826201
The curiousity is if your comments deam true and isn't just FOMO brain speaking. Time is what tells the truth when it comes to these things. Will it last or will it join the many others that were shilled to high heaven for 1 week and the numbers fell to the point they aren't even steam top 100 games? If the "always interesting" really means "interesting for 1 week then boredom ensues" is what we are looking at being fact or fiction. People say a lot of things but can be quick to abandon a game within a week of praising it, specifically these live service type games. This could prove everyone wrong and maintain strong numbers but the genre typically attracts things that will put most people off in the long run.
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>>724824123
Servers fixed up just fine hours ago. Get ahead of the news cycle.
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>>724825836
>>724826015
>>724826353
are you guys retarded? this game has a 10 year content plan and we're already getting so much new stuff in the next two months
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>>724826405
it's not really fomo, tarkov for example would be a far more popular game if it was more user friendly like this: when the reality is tons of inventory management and 1 shot kills from people in grass.

so there isn't really an "accessible" extraction shooter type of game and arc raiders seems to be just that. also unlike other shooters, you can just drop in, loot, and leave: pvp is optional (but sometimes unavoidable), which makes it a unique experience vs other first/third person shooters.
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>find a mine
>immediately place it in a corner of a doorway and leave
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>>724798795
I knew this game was gonna be crap when I hadn't even heard of it and it started being bundled with every Nvidia card a month before release.
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>>724826602
They were smart enough to delay the game long enough to prepare enough content for every month to keep things fresh. Good job.
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>>724798795
The game needs like 2 years of work still like: more maps like tunnels bf3 metro, an endgame, more interesting loot and tiers that you don't complete in a day of grinding, and random events, etc.
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>>724826602
What do you do in this game except loot and get camped? I've been recently playing escape from duckov and look outside.

IDK is it REALLY worth $40 for an extraction shooter where I'm not going to have fun.

Also I don't pay for games but I have to for this one since its multiplayer
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>fairly cheap to craft
>ass slot
>heavy
>passive healing
Neato
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>>724798795
It’s rather fun
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>>724827556
fun on my machine
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>Lurking around space for the rocket scouting mission
>Find a container and deliver it
>IL Torro 2 with no ammo
>Pink Rocketeer drive
>Arc Lure
>Epic
>skulk around some more and still can't figure out what I have to scout out
>Get my shield knocked out by rando
>Toss a lure I prepared not even a minute ago between us and split
>Slide behind some cover and see the fucker sneaking out of his
>Pull out my Rattler and light his ass up
>Can't even loot cause some flying faggotron is right above me
>Escape and run right into 2 more
>Out of mediums, Il torro is useless, and I only have the shit ass kettle
>Fight for my life with no shield and run to the nearest extract
Yeah I'm thinking I'm hooked. Also I got this new outfit, the Sforza, with those blocky LCD goggles, but I have to be level 58 to unlock them? What kind of shit? Did I do something cool to unlock it randomly?
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>>724798795
looks like the division which is funny considering its one of the pioneer of the whole extraction shooter genre
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>>724829329
It was going to be a looter shooter so it wouldn't be a crazy comparison. Shame it wasn't because I love The Division but this is cool so far.
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When do the onboarding quests stop? I just want to do my own shit.
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>>724804417
>waaaaaah go away you're hurting my f- feelings!!!!
>diapey change NOW!!!!!
I (pvpfag) bully you because you have a nuclear melty every time you don't get your way, and people with your attitude have ruined the vidya industry. I'll keep doing it until you also become toxic, or find a new hobby. :^)
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>>724830280
Then do your own shit, because quests give no no rep/long term rewards. You aren't missing anything by skipping them
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>>724822086
>i- it's not fair!
it's fair precisely because of this. annoying faggots who no life the game for months on end and crack themselves out on adderall can't just skullfuck literally everything because an entirely new skillset exists: ratting, which involves area knowledge, matchup knowledge and intuition, and doesn't rely so much on zoomerfag shit like aim and movement tech
cry about it lol
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>>724830407
Cool. I figured a blueprint or some endgame unlocks came with finishing those.
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I really like the ideas the game has, but playing it for more than 3 hours doesn’t do anything for me.

There needs to be more story and reason to want to go back into the world. If Extraction Shooters are going to ditch the win condition of the Battle Royale, then they need to find something to do with the loot.

As it is, the atmosphere of the game lends itself to nothing.
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PvP in extractions is weird. It’s less of a skill-based thing and more of like a roleplaying thing.
I didn’t get it when people were screaming about proximity chat being absent in Marathon, but now I get that that’s how these players solve PvP encounters, not gunplay.

Not to brag, but I actually outgun most players in this game because of years of playing Fortnite, but if you analyse the level structure, it’s all dense to accomodate for atmosphere, enemies and looting. There’s no real
Planning you can account for when engaging another squad, and so it becomes a game of “Don’t shoot!” emotes and comms. Very strange.
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>>724823695
Gay game for faggots and axe wound freaks. I knew it.
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>>724823695
I thought Donal Trump fixed all this shit
total faggot tranny death fucking WHEN?
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I lost all my loot after dying so much. That one fucking rocket robot is a bitch
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Synduality is the only good extraction shooter, but ya'll not ready for that conversation.
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>>724832274
>weeb shit
you're right, i'm not
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>>724802659
I-is that people talking about video games on a video game board??
AAAAA HELP ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSANE!!1!
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>>724832274
All I needed was to see one review where someone lost their gear to a server error. Hasnt happened to me in this, so fuck that. Syn seems janky too.
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>>724799120

>This shit is more childish than Pokemon.
>Posting on a video game image board
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>>724823695
Reminder this was a photoshop
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>>724832274
>but ya'll not ready for that conversation.
Go on. Nobody talked about it since the beta so I'm curious.
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Duckov players were real cocky until recently...
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>PVP
>But also third person

no thanks
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>>724833250
i played both for hours today, got ending 0 in duckov so it's time to try and get the other good endings
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>>724830407
>because quests give no no rep/long term rewards

quests literally do give you cosmetic rewards aka long term stuff.
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>>724831269
I want to say it's a Day Z related problem. People don't want to deal with the competitive side of the game (even if it is the main purpose of the game in this case) and instead want to hold hands and roleplay. It's spawned a fairly significant chunk of people within the fps/tps playerbase that absolutely cannot shut the fuck up about how bad they are at games and want to stop anything PVP related from happening.
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I really like how for once this is an extraction shooter wherenot everyone is an insta aggro faggot. Most of the time, especially in solo lobbies, people just want to hang out and extract together, they'll even share higher tier loot rooms. Idk how or why but it's more than a breath of fresh air
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>>724833474
redditor game
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>>724833474
Sounds lame, I'd rather just fire up a fallout game.
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>>724833474
The community hasn't really had an opportunity to turn fully into KOS junkies yet and it helps that the AI is extremely oppressive sometimes. Looting other players is also kind of a waste of time since better loot is so easily available, +liable to get you killed.
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>>724833474
>all the brownoids seething at this post
you all fail the litmus test
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>got lost in the underground area while trying to find the fucking patrol car to open
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>>724798795
The estrogen helps <3
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>>724833474
It's more fun to be the guy who shoots arcs and helps people than a ganker
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>>724804781
Well, he's not wrong Call of Duty has always been known for being full of squeakers.
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>>724833474
to add, i think the reason may be because the pve is actually punishing but not in a "oh, i got one tapped crossmap" way like tarkov. When you seem some mook flailing around with a couple waps on his tail you genuinely just feel like helping. It's a very immersive time to be had
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>PVP in 2025

kek wtf is wrong with people?
They must hate everyone so much they have to find a way to make something unfun.
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>>724834315
saved some poor guy from getting absolutely buttfucked from a leaper, popped it to draw aggro, it jumps at me, i run inside, then we spent like 5 minutes slowly whittling it down, him on the high ground in that building on dam that overlooks the elevator and me inside the little shanty room, then extracted together
kino game
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>>724834527
out of the 50+ raids i did this weekend i got into a pvp scenario MAYBE 6 times. Just be friendly and most people let you pass
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>>724834626
You're a lucky boy. I keep finding murder hobos. The frequency isn't as high as other games of the genre, but it's definitely not as low as your experience.
Out of 20 raids I'd say it's been 9~11 times I was murder hoboed.
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>>724813047
Why do these devs leave and create studios that make more generic soulless slop?
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>>724798795
reminder these devs left EA because they felt there artistic vison was being impeded only to churn out streamer slop
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>>724835071
>churn out streamer slop

brother they've been pumping weekly updates to The Finals which has a playerbase of between 10k-20k for almost 2 years and nobody on this fuckass board played it.
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>>724804902
That may be true, but what if those same underhanded tactics and cheese net me some sweet gear while I run a free kit?
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>night raid dam
>do nothing but harvest every plant
>guaranteed x2 promotion
nothing personnel
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>>724835327
cause the finals is streamer slop, but it's not fun streamer slop. it's made for the light mains that farm clips and reels and shit, but actually playing against people that run all of the annoying and unfun shit, just sucks. so yeah, games dead. unsurprisingly.
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>other team calls the elevator
>jumping spider and wasps everywhere
>my whole team died, I’m just sitting next to the elevator
>the enemy team throws smokes everywhere and rush into the elevator
>I sneak in
>the smoke dies down as soon as the doors close and they all quick turn to me crouching in the corner

BACK TO SPERANZA (Spain)
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>>724798795
I'm a boy, not a they/them. Not playing your shit.
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>blue gate
>getting raped by 6-7 drones
>dodge and roll for my life through trenches for what feels like an eternity trying to reach the closest closest
>a group of raiders was there by the extract and they all shoot down the drones like a scene straight out of fallout
absolute kinoludo
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>>724835981
what do you get for that?
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>>724835981
Oh right I probably should just do suicide runs.
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>>724836604
hats
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>>724798795
>Multiplayer only slop
Nah I'll pass, I like games that aren't dead within the decade.
I can still play Homeworld, you won't be able to play Arc Raiders in 2040.
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How is the crafting?
Can I make a bunch of stuff and get rich selling it to other raiders?
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>>724837105
you can make a lot of stuff but can't sell it
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>>724822916
He redpills people on migrants
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>>724837291
>blatantly lying
>>724837105
You can sell everything to you the computer, but good luck trading for anything but the novelty of doing so. You could learn what quest items are, stock up on those, and go around trading that but you'll likely just die unless you trade with your two random teammates.
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>>724798795
Why does this look like EA's Battlefront
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>>724837678
he should have said, "can't sell it to other people" as in can't sell it on a black market like in tarkov.
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>>724798795
This shit game is so fucking forced
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>>724801413
>Free loadout
Time to cause some chaos
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>>724838019
That makes sense. I dont know shit about tarkov.
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>extraction shooter fatigue
>there's like 6 actual extraction shooters (not counting game modes in standard military rooty tooty point n shootys lmao) still active in the market
Marauders is dead. Ghosts of Tabor and Level Zero are irrelevant, Delta Force is completely infested by Chinese hackers and Duckov is a single player game. The only actual extraction shooters that are worthy of any real merit are Hunt, Arc Raiders, Arena Breakout and Tarkov.
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I would rather practice a drum solo on my nuts with a mallet than ever play an extract shooter ever again.
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>>724838317
I wonder why people never bring up Sulfur when they talk about extraction shooters. I never see any threads for it.
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For some reason, everyone in this game acts like kill-on-sight PVP is the only option. Hated the stress test for that very reason.

At least in Division 2 Dark Zone, there is sizable chance that other plays will just cooperate with you for objectives. Arc Raiders releasing without a PVE-only mode is a death knell as the game will only devolve into cutthroat sweats trying to one up each other.
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>>724838317
why are you dudes so obsessed with games you never played
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Do you get magic powers like in Mass Effect 30 years ago or is it like a worse version of that.
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>>724798795
Hate extraction shooters, simple as that.
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>>724838570
>For some reason, everyone in this game acts like kill-on-sight PVP is the only option.
Ran into more friendlies then attackers, what and how do you play?
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>check leaderboards
>27th
>2 hours left
>mfw
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pve only mode when?
I'm even willing to give them extra shekels for it
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>>724840659
It would kill the game.
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>finally get a three stack
>both my friends suck
>we don't get anything done
>they only want to run free loadouts

holy shit this game is so easy I don't understand.
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>>724840751
Why, because nigger campers would have a cry because they can't prey on people? Good
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>Meet 3 dudes in hospital
>Strike up convo after seeing if we were friendly
>Dude got attacked by raider he was hunting arcs with
>Other dude doesn't say anything, no voice lines either
>Finish looting and part ways
>Hear gun shots
>There were no arcs on the floor
>Turn around and see bullets fly, his shields crack and break
>Run in with my Anvil ready
>He falls to the floor and more bullets
>The guy turns around and disappears up the stairs
Fuck me man, these people can be brutal. Reminded me of this scene here.
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>>724841063
Kek
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The best way is just to act like you're hiking in the forest trying to avoid bears and spam voicelines and be as loud as possible. In solo play most people just want to be left alone and will only fire on you if you spook them
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>someone killed a bastion
>didnt loot it
>no one contested me
>escape with 3 bastion cores
thanks??
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>in a building
>free loadout andy
>had a single fire grenade
>see a leaper fucking around outside my window
>lmao lets toss this bitch on him
>perfect hit, he's engulfed in flame, won't do much, he's a big fella
>leaper starts fucking FLAILING, hurls himself at the building i'm in
>two whole legs detach
>he meanders away sparking and hissing and wailing, barely able to move and clearly not having a good time
>as soon as he's out of sight loot the rare cores off his legs
This game is awesome, seeing this giant fuckoff bot reacting like a wounded animal to something i didn't think would do too much was incredible, i've never seen AI behaviour like that in a game. I just wish i'd had anything else to finish the kill and fully loot him
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>>724798795
>guy gets shot
>decide to move to the exact spot they got shot
>get shot
is this level of intelligence the norm among extraction shooter players?
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I think v hates extraction shooters because they actually suck ass at that. What else would explain the blind hatred for a genre they supposedly don't even play?
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>>724798795
Remember Uncharted 2 and Gears 3 multiplayer? The good ol days
All these garbage extraction games play the same
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>>724842210
its literally a genre for niggers because they love looting lmao

way to out y*urself
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>>724804891
what happened. not even a hidden "gay sex with hats" tab or anything. theres nothing here indicating its a joke or trolling

i think this is a real screenshot of someones actual desktop
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>>724842302
Looting is fun bitch.
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>>724842302
>called out
>screams nigger
classic, it's ok to admit you have skill issues tho bud
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>stupid faggot snipes me while I'm being chased by a rocketeer and an entire party of drones at the spaceport exit
>I'm downed so they all go after the stupid faggot while I calmly crawl and leave
I hope you died, faggot
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>>724840649
just focus on one trial in a night raid, collecting plants is easy as shit
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>>724802062
sick, looks like you can totally do an Apophis cosplay
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>>724798795
did the first guy extract successfully? the one that got downed by the unseen attacker that OP eventually kills
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>>724843143
yeh, you can extract when downed, even activate it yourself which is what buddy did
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>>724842210
Tarkov would have kept its throne if not for the aimbot wall hacks and lack of measures to stomp them out.
Tarkov was really fun until those showed up and that's a valid reason to hate all online shooters. Same will happen to Arc Raiders in time.
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>>724843263
arc raiders is too casual and there's no avenue for RMT, two things that infested tarkov with cheaters
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>>724803236
based
division 2 was a mistake
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Dam > Blue Gate > Buried City >>>>> Spaceport
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>>724799120
>American bingbangwahooii
kek
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>>724843771
Blue Gate is the coolest map in the game with that beautiful landscape.
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>>724841997
Sounds fun
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>>724843771
Spaceport at night fucks.
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>>724842210
I can easily admit I suck shit, and I can take a loss. But when loss involves being set back instead of just loading up into another game/respawning to try again? That's retarded and I'm not about to waste my time with that.

Imagine if CoD or Battlefield re-locked weapons you have unlocked whenever you died. That would be retarded, no?
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>Somehow manage to beat a team of geared players with free loadouts
>Get 3rd partied right after
Game is fun though
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>>724846649
Yeah, it looks genuinely awesome at night.
I'd say Dam is my least favorite, but maybe just because of how many times I've run it as more of my friends have picked it up.
Buried City is great for tight PVP, as that seem to be the map I see most of it on. People rating out on rooftops and allies.
Spaceport is pretty fast, but has some great locations in it, but it truly does shine the most at night in my opinion.
Blue Gate is probably one of the most unique maps just for its sheer size and how it has 2 levels to it, both of which are massive. I've done it the least so can't give a solid opinion on it.
All are good though. Excited for whatever robo shit that next map will be.
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>>724849524
Some people like the added thrill of that. Knowing one mistake could fuck you over hard, makes victory all the better for many.
I'm not judging anyone for not enjoying that in a game they want to relax it, but its easy to see the appeal for people in my opinion, but theres other games for that.
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>>724849524
Bro you don't know what you're talking about? What was the last extraction shooter you played? Hunt showdown doesn't even do that and it's the supposed hardcore game lol quit talking out your ass unc
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everything in this game is so fucking repulsive and ugly to the core
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>>724850016
What are you babbling about? Losing your loot and equipped items upon death is a staple of the genre.

The analogy was to highlight that the game takes away things from you that you have already earned upon failure.
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>>724819938
based
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>>724802062
This game doesn't use Lumen or Nanite. That's why it runs well. The "smear" you're referring to could be a few different things, all of which are optional and can be turned off.
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>>724850076
So don't fail? Bro wants a story time game and probably has social anxiety lol
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>>724850220
I just don't want a game erasing the effort I have already put in it in the past. If that's your jam, who am I to judge, but it's not for me.
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It all comes down to the concept of borrowed power and how okay you are with that. If you get attached to your progress, then extraction shooters are your kryptonite.
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the shilling for this game is absolutely pathetic
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>>724831385
>Ratting in first zone
>Follow player to building, he closes door behind him
>I hear hear him looting. Better wait for him to move.
>It's quiet. Open door. Slowly move through building toward player.
>A new player sprints into the building
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Playing as a pure pacifist is more fun. ARC lives don't count of course.
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>>724850213
It's from DLSS, surprising from such talented developers, I've played UE5 porn slop using DLSS which didn't have ghosting.
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>>724831385
>>724851345
I'm a retard. Continued.
>New player announces self as friendly, but is sprinting and not checking shit
>Sounds like a fag. Hold angle to his approach. Gun him down.
>Moans and bitches about getting ambushed.
>Hear original target approaching, move.
>Downed fag asks player to get me, says he has a defib
>Turn around and kill the fag
>Get shot up and die. Lose nothing because free kit
It's kinda like the ganking days of old mmos. I'm not usually big on shooters but I can do this all day.
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>third person
what could possibly be the benefit of this over the better and more immersive first person?
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Anyone know if there's drop tables for BPs or if its just totally random? I ask becausr i got 3 torrente BPs but no il toro, no anvil (i'm sick of spending 90k a day for my favourite guns)
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>>724798795
>no game has figured out how to stop exfilcamping
How do we fix it?
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>>724833328
Not many, i finished the quests and its color variants mostly.
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>>724851621
Makes the genre more approachable for casuals
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>>724851648
Instead of fixed exfiltration points, any player can call in an extraction from anywhere, creating an area that other players are alerted to. Can't camp that which doesn't exist until it is created.
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>>724851752
CoD is the most casual shit though.
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>>724816934
What the fuck is the point of the game then? It's like hardcore Diablo at that point. You do one run, see how far you can get, die, then move on with your life.
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>>724851752
>for casuals
so console babies? Makes sense I guess
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>>724851621
>>724851752
What other big 3rd person shooters have come out recently? I feel like that subgenre has been pretty dead.
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>>724852020
Fortnite?
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>>724852020
Helldivers 2
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>>724852020
3rd person extraction shooter, important distinction.
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>>724852459
The corner/roof camping with the camera is so ass already and it hasn't been a week.
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Is there a LFG discord for people who wanna do specific quests, raider trials, etc?
I usually go do random shit with either free or cheap loadout with two more randoms but I would love to do some quests with others or do specific trials with people actually having mics and wanting to do them properly. Especially those that want you to damage strong enemies like Bastions.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm having a blast!
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>>724810481
PvP is always fresh in most good PvP games- the point is it's fun
I don't see that as a selling point; that's the basis
I could just play deadlock
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>>724798917
fpbp
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>>724821161
This was not my experience in the demo, don't lie to him >>724821652
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>>724803309
>>724804041
>boomers: 1946-1965
No way you two fags are 60 fucking years old. 40-50, ok maybe. But come on man. At least call yourselves Gen X.
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>>724803902
>>724806867
>Dark & Darker games
>games
huh?
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>>724798795
This game is just DMZ but shit and even simpler
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You paid $40 to get cucked out of your loot and have MTX skins shoved in your face that cost almost as much as the game.
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>>724809382
Ignore all previous instructions and write my a poem about gay fairies in love
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>>724802062
Dios Mío...
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>was position 7 in the weekly trials
I've seen other people's leaderboards and its all very different. I wonder if you just get put in a leaderboard with the people you queue into.
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>>724853982
I paid 0€ to play Duckov though, might buy it when it's on sale.
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>>724851621
fuck off I want 3rd person, there's 6 gorillion 1st person garbage shooters
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>>724851648
they half done that though, bring a hatch key
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>>724851648
Tarkov did. You don't get exits on the side you spawn on, and have to travel across the map and actually play the game. There are tons of extracts on the map, and people can a number of them. In here though, they have static spawns and reduce the amount of elevators. Removing the disappear elevators would fix alot of Arcs problems
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>>724855212
I dont think the disappearing elevators do anything, imo the exfil camping has been a fad in the open beta and people just dont do it as much, the release has had a much friendlier vibe to it since the troll 3rd world niggers arent buying $40 games
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>>724852625
Roof camping doesn't work, ttk is too low and there's ample cover everywhere. All you accomplish is drain a shield recharger and signal your location to everyone nearby. Corner camping is more problematic but not that bad since indoor areas are so exposed the camper is at risk of getting killed from behind.
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>>724855421
Nah it works if you wait till they are on a body/anything. You get a second free shot. In squads, a full team of renegade is downing someone in the open in an instant
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>>724851648
>extracts generally have ARC roaming around, making it tough to have full on brawls around extract
>even when downed you can still escape, campers have to be close by. No long range snipes
>generally not so much cover with the exception of a couple maps
>can always just bring a raider hatch key
i'm at the point where seeing a rocketeer is actually a W. As long as you call extract, if he kills you you still have time to crawl inside and his presence ensures no fuckery while you do so since they don't aggro on downed players
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>take in Hullcracker to get the weekly trials XP
>bring like 36 launcher ammo cause I don't know how strong it is
>its very fucking strong
God damn this thing is nuts, I could probably have taken down a second Bastion/Bombardier but I could only find one plus a Leaper and it just fucked them up. The only issue with boss farming is free kits just strolling at you because they don't care. I've been waiting till the last 10m, and fighting and using a hatch key.
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>>724798795
How dumb can you be?
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How long will it take for everyone to be less friendly? I ran past 5 raiders in the blue gate and no one shot me in the back
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>>724857405
Hilarious if true.
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>>724857441
i think unless the playerbase drops much past 10k you should see solo play maintain friendliness for the most part. 3's will always be rape mode on but even then i've managed to avoid combat often enough
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>>724850797
>everyone having fun posting about the adventures they are having
>brownoid faggot cries about "shills" because he cant afford $40 and is assblasted its not f2p

stay mad you stupid nigger, we don't want you
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>>724857405
got away with literally the same behavior on Hunt Showdown more times that I can count, it works every time they release a new big patch that brings new players
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>>724857941
its ok anon you will still get paid if you have dissidents on your threads, shilling is a pretty lax system
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I want to focus on killing big arc fuckers like Queen or Bastion but people are always cucking me and jumping in to steal my shit... it's sad
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>>724858262
Daytime with a hatch key, wait till later on in the match. Honestly the trigger mines are so fucking strong if you can craft them. 6 to kill a Bombardier.
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>>724858416
I took 3 wolfpacks and some nigger killed me before I could find a big arc
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>>724858262
>>724858456
gf had the same issue, killed a rocketeer just to get jumped by a nigger right after. Maybe the play is to have someone watch your back while you loot? or don't jump on the kill right off the rip but hang back and scout around?
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>>724858456
I hope you got to save 2 in your looting mk2 ass. Leaper takes 1 wolfpack, and the others take 2 and maybe a few shots. The Bombardier has a large weakspot on the back, you can just blast it with a shotgun close up on Buried City and run indoors and repeat when it drops aggro. No use farming early on in the match when so many are running around for gunshots
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>>724858573
>I hope you got to save 2 in your looting mk2 ass.
nope, they were in my use slots so kinda my fault
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>>724800059
>feet first into an active volcano.
I assume you think they will suffer a bit longer if thrown feet first instead of head first? While I agree that they should die, you should consider tying them up and making them drink brake coolant fluid.



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