globohomo
>>724803461It succeeded. The LGBTQIA+ crowd they targeted all bought it.
what you mean? it's most played singleplayer game on xbox currently
>>724805117all ten of them
>>724805220pretty easy to accomplish when there are no other recently released single player games on xbox
>>724803461It has flopsidians name on it.
>>724803461As fun as the systems are and as much of a "rpg" it is all that is lost due to the boring setting, characters, and lack of anything that would actually come close to the main character feeling cool. I don't know what happened at this studio but it's like the word "power fantasy" became a no no word.
>"um actually we dont want to make huge successes" >2 flops in a rowloving every laugh
>>724806604I can't imagine how Avalone must feel about getting cancelled, having the person who pushed him getting cancelled taking his job, and proceeding to destroy the company with no survivors.
>>724806565>don't know what happened at this studiohalf of the people walked out
>>724806604bruh i think its far more worse than that. when was the last time a microsoft game actually succeeded. even that gears of war demaster from like a month ago came and went
>>724807007Depends. Do you count them buying Call of Duty as Microsoft succeeding?If not, then I have no idea. 10 years ago? I can't think of a single successful game they have made since the 360.
>>724803461I pirated it and I'm enjoying it. Lots of call backs between quests, and the gunplay is miles better from the first game.Exploring is also less "Here's a bowl world", type of deal. It's not $70 good, but it's yar harr good. If I had to be fair I'd say at least $30-$40 if I could put a price on it.
>>724806717he probably doesn't care because he won his lawsuits and started getting work again
>>724807376this will pique the gamer's interest
>gay space adventure>gay fantasy adventure>gay space adventure 2
>>724807376Who even makes these games? Like, are the devs putting themselves into the game?
>>724807376Why does western media keep niggerworshipping? It's becomong really bothersome lately it feels so forced in everything lately.
You didn't need to make another thread.
>>724807596>Why does western media keep niggerworshipping?How do you know Niggers didn't make these games? You might think>haha they can't codebut they could be in the less intelligent departments and decide how the characters look. That's the only way I can explain that cast.
>>724807596>latelyobama was 2008, trayvon martin was 2012. let that sink in
>>724803461definitely not worth the price. on the other hand, it's not the worst thing ever and I liked it more than the first one and saarfield. not a high bar but still
>>724803461it's not outer wilds 2
>>724807535One of the lead developers is a self-hating white man that says he prefers hiring minorities over whites.
>>724807596The dominate political faction of America has been that for 175 years. Not going away any time soon.
>>724803461why wouldn't it flop? what's good about it?
>>724807376oh no, are those video game characters that don't share my gender and ethncity!?!?! this woke shit has gone too far
>>724807827>One of the lead developers is a self-hating white man that says he prefers hiring minorities over whites.If he's so self-hating, then why is he giving his opinion? Stupid people aren't self-hating, because that requires self-awareness. It would be like saying 4channers are self-hating (they aren't). To be self-hating, you have to understand how you're perceived by others. That means the low IQ fuck you're talking about just says stuff to appear noble, and he doesn't hate himself. It's called virtue signalling.
>>724807596It's been happening for over a decade.
>>724803461Why did it flop? Well, let's see now..>women are all ugly dykes with husky voices>religion bad>Whites bad>men bad>capitalism badConfirmed for woke trash. Part two has the same ol' marxist propaganda as the first one.
I wonder who is paying for the pajeets/bots to spam these threads?
>>724805220BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>724808335>Mad at "religion bad"You people get mad at the pope for being woke when he says to feed the hungry and treat poor people like humans. Religion to you is just set dressing so you can justify your various ideological views
>>724808457Why are you mad at him being mad? Are you religious?
>>724808562His views are bullshit and I want him to know it.
It was a sequel nobody asked for, to a bang average game nobody played.
>>724808335Why do they hate femininity so much?
>>724808607You didn't answer my question. I'm filtering this thread and wordfiltering the game. You'll never see me in any of these threads ever again. 90% of the board is automatically filtered at all times. Enjoy each other's company, shitskins.
They made the assassin girl gay. it all so tiring the need to push the 0000000.01 percent the population into these games to score brownie points and pat themselves on the back.
>>724803461I didn't even know it was out.
>>724803461/v/ said it was good
>>724808335>In forty years there's going to be entire nursing homes of childless old men full of guys like this anon ranting about ess jay dubyas and Anita Sarkeesian and obsessing about the jaw size of the Jamaican servant that thanklessly changes his diaperFuture looks bright
>>724808687>want to make gay game>no one wants to finance it as they can tell it won't sell>go to the bank and ask for dei esg funding>sure thing, pal>make your gay game and release it>no one buys iti don't get it
>obsidian
>>724807931if you want white men to play your game you should appeal to their likes yeah. i can take the bus if i want to be surrounded by shitskins and ugly lesbians.
>>724803461It's boring, space fucking sucks.
>>724805117Glad to hear they've retained the F:NV fanbase
>>724809113at the end of the first game there were huge implications that earth has been dead for decades(?), maybe a real alien invasion?But in part 2 its suddenly "rifts" you investigate and a boring civil war
>>724803461globohomo and mid storylinehalf of early game are locked behind perks and skills that you're never gonna get that earlyits just a bad gamelike new vegas is
>>724809396they are probably saving that for a third game, as ridiculous as it sounds, or it's just their "humour" because ending of two says something like "and the Earth remained inexplicably dark"
>>724807931this but unironically
>>724807672but now I get to laugh at your shitty game twice as much
>>724808626>lower players than the first game that came out a year late on steamwhat level of failure is this?
>>724803461>make a game>people are like meh, because its full with socialist ideologies, and non romancable characters but they like it overall>sequels comes out>HERE IS OUR NEW GAME YOU CAPITALIST PIGS, ALSO YOU CANT ROMANCE ANYONE HAHAHAHHA NOW BUY IT
>>724809926many things aligning.the 70/80$ debacleoverall UE5 fatiguemehh reviews
>>724803461Still a bigger success than nigger gaiden 4
>>724803461>Why did it flop?Can't speak for others but I find that nuObsidian's RPGs put me to sleep. They feel so dry and boring and generic it's like they're deliberately aiming for it. Outer Worlds 1 was likely the most generic game I've ver played.
surely its the chuds who are wrong
>>724808794>Completely shut this entire line of discussion down in one postlol
>>724803461>CORPORATIONS AND CAPITALISM BAD!>That'll be $70-100, but like in an ironic, fourth wall breaking kind of a way. :)
>>724811372The basis of communism/socialism is literally that workers should be the ones that profit from things being made, not companies. Why do conservatives always say shit like this like they think it is some big own? They want to own their work, not work for free.
>>724803461Bad writing, ugly models and mediocre gameplay
Something surprising to me is that I had more fun with the half baked, supremely flawed game that is bloodlines 2 than this. OW2 on the surface seems like the better game but I'm constantly bored. I've tried two characters so far and ended up frustrated with both of them. A large part of it is that the combat is just kinda shit and the game is really poorly balanced, plus tons of bugs. This is not an endorsement for bloodlines 2, I'm just saying that a blatantly shit game like that was still more entertaining than this.
>>724807960>be antiwhite>people who aren't antiwhite call your antiwhiteism virtueYou're dumb.
>game has 1800s inspired venture capitalist faction, nazi ordnung faction, and super logic math faith faction>none of them have nuclear families or patriarchy in their societies
>>724812392Nuclear families are an invention of the twentieth century, specifically the forty or so years between WWI and the end of WWII. For most of history people lived with extended family
>>724803461>>724808335>>724807376Why do these companies actively, consciously choose not to appeal to their base at all? obsidian originally built their reputation on appealing to crpg fans. people who enjoy games that are over 20 years old by now. these people arent exactly "progress-minded", and are overwhelmingly white. obsidian surely must know this. appealing to these huys by invliding attractive, white and heteronormative characters would create a ton of goodwill, but obsidian simply says "fuck these people" and fills their games with ugly lgbtqi browns. i just dont understand what they expect. by now they should know perfectly well that brown alphabet soup doesnt buy their games.
>>724803461The brand is not big enough. Especially when the 1rst game was mediocre
It's actually pretty good. It's a lot better than OW1 and Avowed and after Bloodlines 2 it feels pretty good to be playing a real RPG.Might even be GOTY, but it has been an extremely shit year. Again.
>>724812649studios have been taken over by sjws. they don't care what the audience wants. they make games for themselves, not gamers.
>>724812649Ever boardroom thinks there's this blue ocean of young brown, female, LGBTQ+ consumers who are dying for a new hobby to get into. There are apparently millions of 20 year old obese women with blue hair and nose rings who can buy a new video game every month.
I'm playing it right now, and I must admit, it's quite hard to feel interested in the setting. The comedic undertones it tries so hard to achieve just make the stakes feel completely irrelevent, and the factions are so on the nose and uninteresting you simply don't care to learn more about them. I'm pretty puzzled as to why they think this world they've built is so interesting it deserves two games. At least Avowed had a genuinely interesting and competently written setting. Also the characters are often writtne as so sincere and overexplain everything you just don't take any of them seriously at all.
>>724807596Cool it with the anti-semitism.
>>724806717I think he's focused on actually landing work. The bigs still won't hire him, and it's not clear if he can write like his rep demands.>>724807535Carrie Patel is in the game, but for the most part no. The women would have been better if they had literally facescanned the hambeast women on the dev team. And that INCLUDES the hons.Do you remember Avowed requiring gay pride fungus on your face that everyone reacts to like it's the plague? We've had enough games with the character designers that we can easily see the pattern. They actively hate the idea of sexy women on par with a saudi arabian TV station. They've made public statements about being weird, racist ideologes who hate the chuds so much that they promised to work extra hard fucking up the game to make something the chuds would hate.
>>724807596They believe it will fix society, and in this specific case, from direct statements from the designers, they have a massive BBC fetish to the point where it's probably a labor law violation.>>724807672Nothing else is getting ANY posts, and it's hard making a living in mumbai.
>>724807827Not just minorities. Asians, even brown as fuck malaysian SE asians and indians actually don't count for him as well as white hispanics. He's got a BBC fetish.
>>724807931LOL. Don't be such a racist fuckhead.
>>724810124I've seen a lot of 9/10 positive reviews, but that immediately made me nope the fuck away from it. No way this game is deserving of those, I pirated the first one and still felt ripped off.
>>724807960This is the dumbest defense of his position I think I've ever heard. Even theGamer didn't try anything this idiotic. I'm not even sure what the fuck you're trying to say.
>>724806378Please, the correct nomenclature is obshitian.
>>724808401Microsoft. They have like one dedicated spammer, and he's very obvious because they pay him so little that he can't afford hardware to run the game. This was most obvious when the last Indy game came out, because that required an RT card and he couldn't even get screenshots
>>724814006The only interesting plot point from the first game was that no ones heard from Earth for decades its been covered up and that's why all the colonies are struggling. But it's a line in a message at the end of the game and isn't explored at all. Maybe it is in 2, I won't find out because I won't play it after the snooze fest that 1 was.
The first game was the absolute definition of 5/10Considering that it's now getting 9/10s from normies I'm expecting a 7/10
>>724808607Your views of his views are fanfiction. There is some doubt in my mind on whether you're a real person or just flinging shit to keep the thread active. In any case, take it to pol. >>724808626outer worlds 1 wasn't average. It sold on NV's rep, and dissapointed.
>>724803461Obsidian's games keep flopping and they keep making them without a care in the world. Is it all Microsoft gibs?
>>724808794I hope you kill yourself on livestream,deadname domain
>>724814673>outer worlds 1 wasn't averageNo, it really was. It wasn't a bad game at all, but it wasn't a good one either. It was completely forgettable.
>>724814673It was average in that it wasn't awful, it was a playable game that had working systems. It was just dull, boring and uninteresting, average at everything.
>>724814693I think they even said that being a gamepass game gets them enough funding that lackluster sales don't matter so much. Its pretty much game development welfare.
>>724814427>>724814664All you need to get a 9/10 is to look decent, run decent, have a lot of content, be finished at launch, and push a progressive message. Just don't be Mind's Eye or whatever that treionwreck that released a few months ago was called.
>ugly brown companions in a post-BG3 worldI genuinely don't understand what happened to the industry, do they not have marketing departments anymore?They always copy the shittiest trends nobody wants then refuse to touch qualities that overtly drive mainstream appeal away. It's fucking WEIRD.Not an issue if the companions aren't a major part of the formula but then why advertise them as such. LOOK at what you're up against, just LOOK.
>>724808648Because sexually attractive females is attractive to chuds, and they explicitly want to repel chuds. Also some of the lead art people are flamingly gay men, but not with good aesthetics. Pic related. Their previous game REQUIRED your character to have gay pride fungus on their face.
>>724808917Access to capital is more important than profitability in some situations anon.
>>724813817picture of said boardroom
>>724803461>Outer Worlds is mediocre slop that only stands out in how forgettable it in>Avowed is genuinely dogshit with nasty ass fungal growths on people pretending it's cute, absolutely VILE>Outer Worlds 2 never had a fanbase to abandon it in the first place, Obsidian still tells consumers to go fuck themselves by saying they're gross for wanting to date characters in a story focused game, the people, need i remind you, that filled a game with disgusting fungus-faced freaksI genuinely have no sympathy left for Obsidian whatsoever, they've completely eroded all the good will i had toward them. Unreal.
>>724803461because the first one was no great success eithermaking a sequel was nothing more than cope
>>724807376a zoo
>>724814858>to look decent, run decent, have a lot of content, be finished at launch, and push a progressive messageOuter Worlds 1 had all of these things and it was still completely forgettable
>>724814693gamepass bux
>>724814858Outer worlds 1 was front loaded with content and that's all the reviewers played. The second half of the game was empty as fuck.
>>724814693I think they're very close to getting axed, or at least a large part of it. There's no way they're turning profit from Avowed and OW2, and Microsoft has been very busy closing studios and projects the past year.
>>724810124>>724809926>what level of failure is this?>many things aligning.I agree. I'd add these two:I would say, ongoing brand corrosion. First game sold on NV's rep, sold well, but was a BIG disappointment. Then Avowed, which promised to be skyrim lite and brighter, but couldn't even get the POE fans to buy in. Also the tone and expectations set by the companion character designs. That was a concord level rejection.>>724811198>>724811651You aren't owed a response anon.
I recently lied my way into a well-paid job at a large company in my area. I'm going to be working as the content lead with a fair amount of autonomy. The head of marketing is also new, a straight white man, and seems grounded and comes from a rough upbringing. I get the impression he's not woke.However, they're also revising their outreach plan completely. I wonder how much gay/woke shit I'm going to be expected to push. Ideally I'd like to cede zero ground but if they ask why none of my material has gay nigs in it, it's going to be difficult to explain. How do you balance that shit in the current year? I wonder if I should talk it through with the new manager so we know where we stand. Unfortunately, we both ultimately report to a middle-aged woman, which will be the obstacle no doubt. It's sad how gay, black and asian most modern advertising is and I'm already a lesser man for having fallen into this career path, let alone perpetuating its worst learned habits.
>>724814949>Their previous game REQUIRED your character to have gay pride fungus on their faceWhy even post if you haven't played the game? What does a person gain from just lying on the internet.
>>724812649We know directly from some of their employees. They quite directly say that they hate the base, are unhappy if the base likes their work, and wants their work to appeal to people other than the base and will put extra effort in to make that happen.>>724811862The theory being unhinghed, desperate, cursed by Cain lets throw anything together to get it out the door passion beats the video game equivalent of corporate memphis?
>>724815470He's right though, you could hide it in the menu, but canonically everyone saw you as a mushroom faced freak.
>>724803461The first game was mediocre.The game between this and that was very mediocre.A proven downward trend that STARTED from mediocre doesn't inspire consumers.And then there's more personal reasons why some consumers would be even less inspired to purchase the game such as pricing, aesthetics, and politics.
>>724814427Reputation matters. ANY reviewer that gives a corporate shlockfest like 1 a 910 review is effectively an anti review now. >>724814664>Considering that it's now getting 9/10s from normiesNo it's not. MC has it at 6.6>>724814006>At least Avowed had a genuinely interesting and competently written setting.I remember it being Deadfire class writing. Interesting that you like that better.
>>724815802Was Deadfire considered shit writing-wise? I never played it.
>>724807376I like how they're standing there like they couldn't give less of a fuck.If the characters of the game don't care to be there, neither do I.
>>724815537Video games have a much higher entry barrier than any other form of entertainment. They're a heavy time and money commitment. The kind of people who would be into this sort of gay race communism are not going to pay that kind of entry fee. Especially when every other form of media has the same kind of writing.
>>724805117there's no tag for that on Steam, which is why I can see the game at all listed. tumblr socialists lost again.
>>724815770Sure, but nobody forced you to pick the gay colored mushrooms.
>>724814763>>724814769Eh, I understand your grading. I'm just a harder grader than you guys, especially at full price AAA.I think the shit parts threw the game into shit territory, even if there was nothing broken about it. Particularly the latter half. >Avoided being a complete trashfire wasn't enough for me.>>724814693>>724814842>>724815230Effectively. Think of MS's recently closed game studios that had NO games in a decade of high AAA funding. These guys launch shit regularly without blowing budget or schedule to feed the gamepass mill, even if the gamepass money doesn't make up for their budget.
>>724808626>mogged by indie flavour of the week
>>724815301They might get cutbacks or at the very least a new goddam character designer, but they're delivering games. I don't see them dying. I think they at the very least get grounded 2.
It was a huge hit actually
>>724816129Those gross regardless of the colors, bro.
>>724816464Dude had a picture of a homosexual man with colorful mushrooms all over his face when you could just pick some twigs in your hair and be done. Also nobody said anything about it being gross.
The game is pretty great all the best things about Fallout: New Vegas are here: the massive amount of choices, the freedom to do what you want, it’s all there.I think the companion trailer doesn’t do the companions justice. They don’t look too weird within the context of the world, and they’re mostly solid.Granted, I think what holds Obsidian games back are a few things:Lack of simulationist elements in their open worlds no mini-games, no sitting at bars, no real world interaction. Just small details that could make these worlds feel memorable instead of something you just glaze over.No emergent gameplay whatsoever. I think they fail at the one thing Bethesda does decently creating systems that keep players exploring meaningfully instead of just checking off quests. The combat system feels too controlled. There are lots of build options, but not much that encourages creative or emergent play.Lack of romance and deep friendships. In Avowed and The Outer Worlds, companions never really felt like friends more like coworkers you happen to like. They need to go deeper with character relationships and emotional connections.Better animations. The animations just suck.Better melee combat. Both Avowed and Outer Worlds 2 had pretty bad or mid melee systems they really need to improve that.Granted you can lunch the same complainants to BG3 and you would be right, I think BG3 does have better NPCS, and the gameplay system has a little more emergent properties than outerworlds does.
>>724806604Which was the first? Because OW1 was giga-success
>>724803461The vast majority of Obsidian's writing team can't actually write anymore, that's why. Most of the old guard scattered to the winds years ago, and I'm pretty sure none of the old guard remaining are responsible for writing anything in their games anymore (outside of Pentiment, maybe, but I liked that for what it was).
>>724807596>Why does western media keep niggerworshipping?Shortly after Americans "won" WW2, their masters literally forced them to integrate with niggers at bayonette point. White casualties inflicted by niggers rapidly passed White losses in the war.
>>724817552avowed>OW1>giga successlmao
>>724803461one word: obsidian.
It was somehow a step back from Avowed
>>724803461>Why did it flop?
>>724817994Ive read one anon here call it "as if every character ate a thesaurus" and I think it's on fucking point. I have finished the game but after like first five hours I zoned out during dialogues and flat out skipped written texts because everything is so padded out by smart sounding words that it instead loses meaning
>>724815770>everyone saw you as a mushroom faced freakthat's not what he said thoughso he isn't right
>>724821139Do you mean Pentiment? I really don't think it's that bad, maybe it tries a bit too hard to sound of-the-period, but it never really tried my patience. Now Pillars, those are games with too much purple prose.
>>724805220Even avowed beat this.
>>724807376I'm getting really tired of the low effort diversity slop.
fuck kleptomania. someone needs to make a mod to remove this flaw
>>724803461Too woke.
>>724822065no I meant Otter Worlds 2
>>724812578This is literally not true unless the family was living in desperate poverty. A core family consisting of the father and mother living with their children is not only normal in the west but normal everywhere else in majority of the world unless the family is poverty stricken.
>game starts with powerful dyke woman captain slapping her sissy white male subordinateThat's all you need to know
I like the revolver. ADS you need to pull the hammer back on every shot but hipfire you just fan the hammer. the shotgun revolver you get in the first town has yet to be beat for raw damage output so far either
>>724803461How does it compare to the first game?
>Tyranny flopped>Pillars 2 flopped>Outer worlds flopped>Pentiment flopped>Avowed flopped>Outer Worlds 2 floppedHow many flops will it take for Obisidian to get shut down?
>>724815853There was certainly some geneva convention contravening-grade cringe in it thanks to the romance content.
Is Tim Cain still at obsidian? I watch his videos from time to time and he seems like a pretty chill dude that knows how to make a fun game.So how the fuck are all their recent games such joyless trashfires?
>>724823165nah if they made another generic RPG it'll be a billion dollar hit this time around
>>724823325I would say that mechanically OW2 is not bad. It's the writing and the art direction that is just absolutely horrid.
>>724803461The dialogue is even more retarded than starfield. I wouldn't be surprised if the same people wrote both games.
>>724807827>he prefers hiring minorities over whites.nothing wrong with preferring slave labor
The game is fun enough, but there's a weird lack of appeal that I can't quite put into words. On paper, it's exactly the kind of game I'd put 1000 hours into, but it just isn't all there. I feel like they should slow down with the smarmy dialogue and the weird tranny/queer character aesthetics and focus on some really memorable designs with striking appeal.I mean fuck, look at Dispatch. Nobody gives a fuck about the actual game but it's selling like absolute fucking hotcakes because they have an interesting art style and SEXOOOOOOOO-tier characters. I'd much rather play a game with that inherent draw than something that's... rather forgettable. Like I can't name one fucking character in OW2 aside from my companions.
>>724826291They aren't slaves though. They aren't necessarily paid less than a white person would because that would be illegal and if you get on their bad side they'll call you racist and get you cancelled.
>>724815415You don't need to concede anything, the higher-ups will tell you what they want. Another anon recently posted about working on a animated show for Netflix were the feedback was just make characters non-white and then the show was accepted.If you give anything they can always take more so there's no reason to concede anything until prompted.
>>724808335those are not from Outer Worlds 2
>>724810065>I AM SILLY
>>724826676Absolutely this.I don't know how they did it. Mechanically, it's fine, and the game actually has a ton of reactivity for your decisions and for your background. However, the setting, characters, and quests are so god damn boring that I think I'd unironically prefer if the game was a looter shooter or some shit instead.It should be a good, if not great game on paper, but I just can't seem to enjoy playing it.
>>724807376I thought it didn't matter what a character looked like as long as they were well-written. Tell me what you didn't like about each companion's writing.
TWO HANDS ARE BETTER THAN ONEONE IS BETTER THAN NONE
>>724821062/v/ermin... what about our agenda?
>>724827469They hyped up having factions like New Vegas, but you can't even side with the Protectorate.
>>724827321>see this shitty pic spammed all day>reverse search >its /pol/ virgins ofc
>>724826951This industry is like any other these days, mostly built on contract work. Sure, there are a few familiar faces for appearances sake, but the majority is just a revolving door of people willing to work for far less, then easily disposed of once a project is finished before sale. A white employee will have some understanding of standards because he was brought up on them, an ethnic individual does not have the same origin point so it makes them the ideal choice if you're making a product first, game second. AAA being complete shit isn't by coincidence, contract work isn't passionate work.
How does it compare to the fps fallout games?
>>724803461They shouldve stuck with the original 80 bucks pricing so this shit flopped even harder
>>724827293I'm not even touching it if the characters look like shit.
>>724803461Haven't played OW2 yet but since both came out on game pass I played through OW1. If it's anything like the 1st game it's obvious.>There's literally like only 8 enemy types despite this being a big open world rpg and they all feel similar: gun human, melee human, bipedal gun robot, drone robot, tanky robot, dog alien, insect alien, dinosaur beast type alien. enemy AI is also dogshit>combat is brainless>all the NPCs look the same, especially ALL the female characters who all have the exact same haircut>leveling/perks are shallow and low-impact>map design, though the biomes are visually distinct, is actually kind of ugly. there's only one area I thought actually looked kinda cool and it's a cave you walk through once for 10 mins in the main quest (though its optional)>weapons are bland and samey except for the science weapons which are gimmicky and get outmatched an hour after you obtain them>no incentive to explore>towns are lifeless>entire game is PLAGUED by millenial writing cliches. nothing is sincere, every item description and npc dialogue has a stupid quip, and the entire setting is completely absurd. the corporations are straight up cartoonishly evil - there is no real satire of capitalism except for "CORPORATION BAD". they literally torture their employees and treat them as less than human, it is not believable at all. Surely they got better with OW2 right?
>>724823165i feel like they are the only company microsoft bought which is making any games so i doubt they will close them lmao
>>724826676>>724827270I'll extend a little bit as a thought experiment. For a game to be good and memorable, it really needs some standout aspects that draw the player in. For an FPSARPG, let's come up with some things that the devs should nail:>CharactersThis is crucial for the genre, and aside from maybe one or two characters beyond my companions, most of them are forgettable at best or annoying at worst. Fail.>GameplayI actually liked the improvement from the original. Choices matter, gunplay is mildly upgraded, and you can goof around with builds. It's just not anything exceptional. Barely passes.>Soundtrack or musicMusic at 0% volume improved the game in some places. Fail.>WorldbuildingI love the general concept of an art deco sci-fi fallout, but man I don't really give a shit about much of anything. I remember the hook of the first level of the original with Rick Sanchez far more than almost any moment in this game. Fail.>StoryIt's at least got more difficult choices than the first game, but it's all different shades of black rather than the shades of grey you'd want from the genre. Fail, but not a total disaster.>DialogueFucking hell I just wish these characters would shut the fuck up sometimes, they try to be funny with the irony but it's just so exhausting after a decade of Marvel movie sloppification. When a serviceable conversation is among the best in the game, that's a low bar to clear. Fail.Where is the fucking draw? What's the thing that everyone should be talking about? IMO it's worth a playthrough or two for cheap because the game is cheesy and non-committal, but why would I recommend this over something that's immediately more fun? Obsidian should hire better artists, stop with the fucking bullshit quips, and dedicate themselves almost purely to aesthetics before doing anything else. Riding on FNV's (overrrated) reputation is no longer an excuse, they need to do better.6/10, basically Avowed again. Play once or twice, move on.
>>724823325He quit after The Outer Worlds and was just a "creative consultant" on this one.
>>724814490Upgrade it to Slopsidian
>>724807376>>724807527>>724808335>pic related>>724827109having pirated 2 I can tell you it's basically the same bullshit
>>724821062>$80 game
>>724803461looking at the reviews of this game on youtube is greatliterally everyone is praising it, 9/10, better than expected, far better than the first gamebut all the viewcounts are abysmalthe game has zero momentum
>>724830753the game could be gods gift to mankind but if its that ugly and gay im still not playing it
>>724807931Are you on your period?
>install the first game despite the hideous millennial character designs>diablo lootI didn't pay and I want my money back.
>>724831034trannies dont get periods
>>724831109>he buyded
>>724808648Because they themselves will never be real women. Also racist nazis like beauty and placating racist evil white nazis is the same as being one. If you're wondering why they are like this, you have to become antisemitic
>>724828167How do they look like shit? I think Tristan's armor is pretty cool.
>>724803461I know nothing about the game but I can safely guess that Women are at fault for it flopping, if Obsidian had no women in the workplace the game would've been better.
>>724803461cause sometimes you walk on water and other times it kills you
why was every line of dialogue written with a thesaurus, who the fuck uses "perambulation" in a sentence?
>>724803461>no real ayys >boring setting >boring writing >boring characters>everything is a bland and boring as possible, no passion, no stand out moments, no anything What a fucking mess.
>>724803461Another half-assed Obsidian game, now with compiling shaders every time you launch it and mind boggling 15fps
>>724829654>Where is the fucking draw?The draw is that you are an anti-capitalist brownoid prole muttoid that should enjoy the goyslop from the fecaloids that the intelligentsia far above your station have so generously provided you before you must stand in the breadlines or be sent to a basement beneath the local police station to be shot in the neck by the nkvd or sent to labor for the people's glory in the gulags.
>Obsidian makes Grounded>has arachnophobia filter to hide giant spiders>/v/ complains it's woke>Obsidian makes Outer Worlds 2>giant spiders, no filter>/v/ complains it's wokeExplain this shit.
>>724833065surely that was the only issue
does the game fix the nonexistent character building and RPG elements, useless item clutter, lack of good quests, boring writing, sauceless nonsensical worldbuilding, mid combat and literal copy-paste itemization (gun mk1, gun mk2 etc.) from the first game?
>>724807376Why can't there be just one character with a skintone and hairstyle like this one?
>>724833418guns are a lot better but youll still be picking up loads of clones
>>724806565Crazy how this is the same studio that once made Chad Simulator Alpha Protocol.
Like nigga why did it even happen lmao
>>724834585>this will sell our game>it fucking doesnt
The Outer Worlds was a middling to bad game that got glazed by the gaming media because it WUZN'T FALLOUT 4!!!!It was either dreadfully short or thankfully short depending on your point of view, and it's DLC wasn't very good. None of the writing in the game was very original or introduced any new ideas, nor did it use any of those older ideas in a way that was entertaining. It was like when Ryan Davis said Borderlands 2 was written by Reddit, The Outer Worlds was written by tvtropes
>>724803461I had no idea they were even making a sequel to The Outer Worlds until I saw it on the Steam storefront the day it released.
>>724837454You didn't see us laughing about >>724834585?
>>724807596>literally one nigger amongst the companions>REEEE NIGGERWORSHIPPINGYou are not a person, you are a golem programmed to act like a strawman from 2014 anti-Gamergate webcomics
>>724803461GET WOKE GO BROKE OUTER WORLDS 1 and 2 OBSIDIAN TRANNY SHILLS LOST BIGLY AND NOW THEYRE GETTING LAID OFFHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAA
>>724834585lmao at the guy who said theres only 1 nigger when theres 4 of them and the white punk is a dyke
Can they put down obsidian now or are they going to remaster New Vegas for the troons before they ack, both of them
>>724807007>when was the last time a microsoft game actually succeeded.straight from there launch? no ideaBut sea of thieves is making bank these days from infinite battlepasses and cosmetics.Edit: actually SoT has taken a bit of a nose dive after recent patch, curious what could have happened https://steamdb.info/app/1172620/charts/#maxAlso they own a little known game called Minecraft (you probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure) that while not really generating continuous revenue does bring people into their ecosystem, and they managed to scam about half of the player population into buying it second time with the whole account thing.
I thought the first game was ok, but nothing noteworthy. But the more I play this one, the more I hate it. It reeks of some jackass making last minute changes to multiple things in the combat system and nobody tested them.
>>724814673>outer worlds 1 wasn't average. It sold on NV's rep, and dissapointed.It was absolute dogshit when compared to on whoms reputation it was sold.
I don't like playing early access games.Also never managed to bring myself to finish the first one, was just too boring after a while.
>>724839121>and they managed to scam about half of the player population into buying it second timedon't remind me
>>724807376the irony is that the black guy is the only one that makes any sense in this gamestill, its so weird that his arm and leg is never mentioned despite loosing both when both of you get betrayed by another member of your groupoverall his side quest feels like filler, instead of covering how much he lost in the missions its just about some random person he met years agoThe granny? Why is she even in the game?Same goes for that muslim guy, hes like a space nazi+commie+judge dreed+insane, makes 0 sense hes part of our group when most game we spend killing his peoplethe chick with weird arm is just an annoying twatrobot has 0 personality or even side dialogue, absolutely pointlessand finally, an insane cultist mass murderer? again, how the fuck shes part of our team when her people are one of the main villain factionsoverall what a fucking terrible companion lineup that makes no sense gameplay or story wise
>sequel to a not a good game mostly known as a disappointment>rick and morty tier humor 5 years after it stopped being relevant>dated mechanically, all preview looked very mid>no good companions to show in marketing>story is just a mess, nothing to even show in trailers>no sex to sell the game>retarded ironic setting, nothing is serious, so feels like aself parody>runs like shit>woke, when people already getting tired of woke games>obisidian getting bad rep>avowed flopping, and this is avowed in space, which is ironic since last game was fallout 4 in space>starfield being shit, so people have enough of bethesda style games>xbox doing bad, geting really bad rep for releasing shit games >gamepass drama>expensive pricingpick your poisonstill, if i had to point my finger specifically its .... just the last game sucking ass and marketing being shityou get to make a good impression only once, and OW1 failed to do it
>>724840645>The granny? Why is she even in the game?diversity
>>724807931They don’t have to share my gender and ethnicity, I still buy games full of sexy Japanese women
>>724820658>waste your 2 milion$ cgi intro on a meme short not related to the ploteverything about this game is bafflingcould have used that intro to introduce you to the world, but nopeim 75% into the game and im still not sure how the fuck eart directorate even works, how it claims legal authority, or what governing body it responds to
>>724841228they also spent money on hiring jean ralphio pretending to be an obsidian rep in several commercialsand now that I think about it wasnt that at summer game fest, that must have cost a fortune just to air that obsidian what the fuck are you doing on microsofts dime
>>724841079yeah i know its diversity, but like we just meet her and she goes "we should join up"its so fucking random, this literally retired granny that was last in action 30 fucking years ago decides to come out of retirement to join us to do some shit or othercouldnt they come up with a single reasonable reason for her to be around? like a bitchy cunt from our organiuzation who refuses to retire, trying to stick to her glory days or somethingbut nope, out of nowhere "here, have this granny as a companion, and no, she isnt and wont relevant to the plot"
>>724841387ah yeah, seen part of thatthe weird part is ... this game isnt a comedy, like at allits a looter shooter mixed with fallout 4, and i would say it has even less comedic elemnts than fallout 4they just copied the ironic Retrofuturism 60ties inspired style, mascot and "corporations bad" shit, but its like they didnt get whats the pointthe marketing is so disconnected from the game, its like they were advertising high on life 2, when they should have been advertising Fallout 4(2):In Space
>>724813523Yeah, the real damage that shit did over the last decade were the hiring practices. This is mirrored by not just the visuals and themes in games, but also by their lower quality overall, because people weren't hired for their experience and skill. Even without the incentives for doing this stuff, they were quite literally hired for this, it's who they are as people, and they will keep adding this shit to every game they are involved in. And if it flops and their studio closes? They get hired onto the project in another studio by their own rot that is now in HR departments everywhere.
>>724803461What even is the story of this game?
>>724842031>And if it flops and their studio closes? They get hired onto the project in another studio by their own rot that is now in HR departments everywhere.The people that worked on Veilguard and Concord got new jobs immediately. The protect each other.
>>724826676They can't do that. What you want starts out with the simple premise of using the advantage of the concept of fiction to make a cool/attractive/appealing character. But for them creating a character is to reflect reality in a way that highlights and represents a entire list of specific issues and traits in the vain attempt to make things that are generally seen as unappealing popular. Which of course never works because it's fighting against entire concepts by doing the opposite and then just pretending they accomplished what they set out to do. I will put the weird lack of appeal into words for you>These are no one's favorite characters.When you design a character that matters in a story and you cannot imagine anyone a year down the line going>Remember [Character] from [Thing]? What a cool character, like that time when...you failed. These characters don't have that, there is so little there no one will bother to remember their name, much less what their deal was a few days after they played the game. They look like npcs you walk by without a second glance. And that is true for all these games and all these kinda characters. Even the people who made them and those they were made for don't give a shit about their existence. You will find no one who has a fucking Avowed character as their profile picture.
>>724815470>>724816129>>724816659You wanna get pedantic in shitposting? Lets fucking go. They ALSO have proper representation fungus for every single other alternative sexuality flag like the asexuals and non binaries. My build was double pistol, but I experimented with wand and tome. I released the gardener, negotiated a compromise for the ending. That geffen thing. You are such a pathetic shitwad that you make up fanfiction because you can't deal with the fact that this company you're simping for has been going downhill for decades by being dumb, boring flaming racists. They worked their ass off spending loads of budget on the widest variety of LGBTQA+2 funguses for your face than all other games combined, instead of a few fucking more enemy types, and THAT is where the mindset of the dev team is.I downloaded and played the game to shitpost about it more effectively. Played POE1 which was OK, Deadfire and hated it. I would cheer this game if it were good. I finished Outer Worlds 1 and 2, and it's ALSO fucking garbage. 2 I went violent shotgun retard, little care for people's life, loads of flaws, near genocide run. Because after kleptomania, I'm not save scumming, I'm shooting a lot of fuckers.
>>724803461Nobody but Microshart asked for it.
>>724803461AAA sameslop.Industry needs an 80's style gamming crash. Scare all the "investors" off.
>>724816912I think you didn't play it. The game isn't even open world. >>724815415Remember that if shit goes sideways NOBODY is going to cover for what you did. Identify exactly WHO, as in stakeholder and name is pushing this, and their specific pain points and motivation. Be precise on when you push back, and use one DEI population to push back against another. Eg. gay as fuck doesn't fly in most of the black community. Pandering is appropriation. Getting away from authenticity is a killer error. >>724822442LOL. NO REFUNDS.
>>724823149Minor improvements. Same irreverent attitude. Still terrible writing. If you hated 1, you'll hate 2. >>724823165Obsidian isn't flopping hard enough compared to other MS studios some of which aren't putting out games at all, and they're hitting deadlines. If MS changes it's live service strategy, they are uberfucked.
>>724807254Where are you right now.I reached the third planet and it annoys me how much of combat there is.Everything is hostile.There is no role playing present or event quests, just kill everything that moves.Not that I mind but it's not what I envision when I talk about rpgs.
>>724809113>space fucking sucksBut it shouldn't though. Literally limitless potential for story telling, and this is the best that Obsidian can do.
>>724806604>"um actually we dont want to make huge successes"Congratulations, you've succeeded
>>724823605Not with their character designers. And not with their complete inability to harness coomer power. Imagine Dispatch's character designs and coomer level on this game's engine, and bring back some of the Avelone level writers. >>724815853Compared to 1? Yes. Imagine a writing team impressed by the borderlands sequels writing.>>724823208I suspect that deadfire being SO goddam bad at romance is why they decided to ditch romance alltogether for TOW2 and Avowed. Minus the gay fish.In fact the only character in all of deadfire I didn't hate the fuck out of was the sword.
>>724843987It really does need a complete reset. All the big studios and publishers would need to go and then be replaced in a manner where hiring someone for any other reason than skill, experience and the desire to make the good game is to endanger your company, because shit like egs, gamepass and government grant money doesn't exist to fund your 20th attempt at making a game for worthless social media audiences while burning millions in budgets. As it is now, the industry just keeps rotting away for at least another decade.
>>724807376Wow! Very diverse. Very brave, downright stunning. Amazingly, spectacularly confronts the stereotypes and toxic white masculinity.Won't be buying.
>>724824594I agree. But that shit is SO goddam bad that it takes it near AC shadows territory. Maybe not quite there, but close.>>724827026Netflix's pitch guide demands non white characters.>>724827293They aren't written well either.
>>724828006Not open world so not the same weight class. Ripped off the ending to 3. I'd put it two grades worse.
>>724827293Who said that?
I heard the performance was bad.
>>724807376Concord 2?
>>724844563The performance is really good if you use upscaling.
>>724830753Any youtber who gives it a 9/10 is getting free review copies, and is an opinion I don't give a fuck about. >>724832221I do, but i'm a hypernerd with a Brobdingnagian vocabulary. That's the land of giants from Gulliver's travels. The Question uses it in a DC cartoon. They use the vocabulary to flex, but on characters that it doesn't make sense. And they don't have the cultural mooring to understand the subtleties to use the language correctly. They're pulling out an electronic thesaurus and picking out the coolest sounding words. Counterexample: When the Von Karma family uses wordplay and wide vocabulary, it's to give them gravitas, indicate that they have deep, formal educations, and breeding. It distinguishes them from other characters, some of who can be identified just from diction alone. Words have cultural roots, as well, and the characters are mostly culturally unmoored. A continental european shouldn't be the same as a mid atlantic america, or a kanjuku raised Todai hero.
It's so boring. The characters are the most copy place, safe stale creatures.Atleast in the first game you could get one of the dyke companions to fall in love with this npc, get them talking. Before the big date you can attack said npc with the dyke in your party. The dyke will kill the npc because she is hostile but then immediately start crying after you talk to her. Her VA nails the emotion of the scene 100% and then in classic fashion you can speech check her to forget about it and stay in the group lol.
>>724833418>does the game fix the nonexistent character building No. >and RPG elements, No.>useless item clutter, No.>lack of good questsMore effort, but no.>, boring writingNo. Slightly different kind of boring.>, sauceless nonsensical worldbuilding,No.> mid combat Guns are better. >and literal copy-paste itemization (gun mk1, gun mk2 etc.)They added meme weapons, like edible ammo, and DDR sword. >>724833194be paitent with the brainlet. He's doing an "all flaws" run. >>724833808Because that's problematic. Don't you want the color to be face fungus instead?>>724836391Employees have literally said they will gladly make the game worse if it makes chuds hate it more.
>>724838127Are you saying the employees who celebrated their POC representation in this game are lying? Actually don't bother answering that.
>>724815415Don't forget that if you lied your way in and you start making yourself troublesome, there's more motivation (or at least opportunity) for your lies to be uncovered at which point you are sunk no matter how right you may be otherwise. However, now that you're there, it seems you're in advertising/marketing somehow. I wouldn't be too concerned with "wokeness" unless you have specific, well supported points of objection for how its negatively affecting a campaign. If you think you're going to come out atop surreptitiously trying to just take down the amount of black/gay/asian etc...you see in any given campaign, you're liable to make things worse by being exactly the racist white guy that the worst people want you to be basically "proving" why there needs to be more diversity in everything because The Man (tm) is constantly trying to keep them down; don't be the stereotype. This doesn't mean that you can't push back against stupid shit or censorship or offer better alternatives, but get over the fact that companies want to sell shit to blacks, asians, and gays so those demographics will be in the campaign sometimes. Instead focus on the how and why - if you're target demographic is males in X city 18-45 of all races, then make sure there's a white guy in the group alongside everyone else instead of just a "diverse" group omitting a white guy, especially if you can prove that the latest metrics show that a significant percentage of your existing customers are white males. Always be able to back up your requests or plans with viable data from good sources. You can be a counter to the worst "wokeness" behavior in your industry, but you lose that ability if you fall into a stereotype on the other side of the coin.
>>724839047I bet their next project is Grounded 2. Also who the FUCK knows what xbox is doing?
>>724803461It's shit simple as..
Do any of the women have long hair in this one? The one thing I remembered about the original (I ended up with Spacer's Choice Edition from a bundle of some sort but haven't played it yet) was seeing that apparently nobody has long hair or at least none of the women. Strange.
>>724842137Aunties choice megacorp. Math nerd religion, Asshole protectorate, and cultists who worship a nuke fight. You are from space un? Whatever. Ending is fallout 3, where unless you speech check your way past, you or one of your companions sacrifices themselves to stop the nuke. Or you all die . That's good too. You actually have significant freedom, as in you can shoot everybody and still get an ending. >>724844563UE5. Yes.
>>724845627I don't know, I like the setting.It's much more horror like than the previous game.With the void and all the rifts that are opening.
>>724812392Can you join any of these faction?
>>724844572Marathon is concord 2. Fairgames is Concord 3. And Concord at LEAST had Bazz. Just think about it this way. Concord characters for the companions would have been unquestionably superior.. >>724845579NOPE.
>>724806717avalone is too busy thinking about bears and bulls and i don't mean the animals
>>724845710Eh, sort of. Not like NV where you can back fucking Caesar. Choice is something they do actually give you in this.
>>724803461>OW1 fool me once shame on you>AvowedFool me twice shame on me
>>724808457fuck off back to /pol/ you fucking faggot.
>>724845942Avowed and Outer Worlds 2 are so similar, it's like they made one game with different skins on top.
>>724808794>ess jay dubyas and Anita SarkeesianHoly shit, did you just blow in from like 2014? How fucking much has this shit lived rent free inside your head?
>>724845579I think they added a couple of hair types that get around neck length but nothing past the shoulders. Too hard for small microsoft studio to model please understand.
>>724806717Avellone left Obsidian long before that even happened, it was the new studio he was with
>>724845893>>724846154I guess there's SOME improvement that there's even neck length if it was done right, but shit even going back to Elder Scrolls / Fallout titles you had some characters with long hair. Even if wasn't this amazing strand by strand modeled shit or if it clipped through something occasionally it was at lease present. These days, it should be trivial to add reasonably realistic longer hair styles so it seems kind of strange the original didn't have it. Not even more feminine shorter chin or neck length options so I guess adding them is an improvement in 2, but shit seems a waste. This reminds me, one big thing about the original Outer Worlds was that it did NOT have the usual moddability one expected from Obsidian's titles. Does OW2 do better on this front? It would't be nearly as a bad if it had a more New Vegas-like level of modding capability which would allow users to add, tweak, and fix as they wished.
>>724845941What do you mean exactly?
>>724846048I mean they were in development at the same time so yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happened.
>>724846603Its UR5.
>>724803461>Why did it flop?the choices matter design boils down to "look at all this cool stuff you can't do" and it makes the game annoying to play.
>>724848037gimi
>>724847927Even the companion limit and the abilities of some companions are copy pasted.What is their deal hear, is microsoft funding them to produce this slop?From a business standpoint this makes no sense unless these games are extremely cheap to produce.
>>724803461Because Obsidian made it and they have a stink on them. They'd have to make an amazing game in order for it to be a hit with players and this ain't it.
>>724849010>is microsoft funding them to produce this slop?probably. they need to bloat the gamepass catalogue somehow to make it more enticing.
>put points in sneak>heavy pistol >perk that gives sneak and pistol damage bouns>put on silencer and and armor to muff the sound of your stealth kills. there, everything dies before they even see you.
>>724849809Where is the fun in that, I like the carnage.
why the fuck is every shotgun in this game a triple barrel one? wheres the standard semi auto or pump action?
>>724849946I found a pump action but no mods for it. shotguns in this game are trash anyway.
>>724850075I use the electricity gun, nobody seems to have immunity to it.I kill robots, humans and animals all the same.
>>724814693Obsidian has dodged the reaper multiple times now due to random shit like Kickstarter being created or Microsoft deciding to buy the independent parts of the industry and I think the dumb bastards think they're invulnerable or something. They'll be gone soon.
>>724850119The mixer (or whatever that assault rifle that eats all ammo) is the best gun i found so far. Just craft bio-gel ammo and you never run out.
>>724808335>religion badonly thing thats based on that list but its not enough to save the game
>>724847996What was the previous original OW1? I thought it was UE4? UE5 should be moddable one would think. I was under the impression that Outer Worlds 1 didn't have fuckloads of mods and if it was really UE4 then the engine alone shouldn't be why it was being held back compared to New Vegas; it had to be some other aspect restricting access easily. UE4 and UE5 dont' have the problem that UE3 did of being a massive kludge that was hard to port from and use. They have their own problems of course, but there's zero reason engine wise that they shouldnt be capable of deep gameplay mods to say nothing for piss easy changes to graphics and the like
>>724807376I find it kind of impressive that there isn't a single interesting looking companion. Usually even these woke games have 1 or 2 tolerable companions but this one didn't even manage to have one.
>>724850075They're op. I melted everything on very hard with a shotgun and plasma pistol. I abandoned every other weapon once I got the silenced shotgun (which is fairly late). I also abandoned stealth outside of the times it's free because there was no point. A good build should be one shotting all fodder and the stronger enemies shouldn't have a chance to move either.
>>724850730the left 2 look nice, maybe the one with heart knee-pads if she isnt too annoying
>>724845942you didnt like avowed? it would be my GOTY if not for expedition 33
>>724828951>Surely they got better with OW2 right?OW2 is exactly the same, just shinier.
>>724849809I maxed explosives, observation and engineering and an smg with explosive rounds kills everything in 3 bullets except the elite enemies, which go down with 1 rocket from rocket pistol. I dont even throw grenades anymore because the smg is faster
>>724834585>THIS COULD BE YOU SAAR!
>>724803461Same reason why the first game flopped
>>724803461question is why they made a sequel to this
>>724845579>Do any of the women have long hair in this one?No.Also:>All the women are completely covered up to the neck. No cleavage at all.>All the cloths avoid being feminine like the plague. No skirts, no nothing. Lots of male cloths on women though.>Women all share the same body type and that body isn't very feminine.>With painstaking detail women have been made ugly, unattractive or old. Lots of "problem glasses".>Rarely is a woman nice to you. They're usually condescending, cold or outright rude.The game hates you, the player.
AHHH MY EYES
>>724851074OW1 has more player on Steam than OW2. OW1 was Epic exclusive for one whole year. So OW2 gets beaten by some old game.
>>724803461>Why did it flop?Feargus Urquhart peaked in 2010 with New Vegas and has been trying to replicate it ever since.
>>724803461a made for gamepass game can't flop, same as a netflix movie, it's just cheap trash to keep people subscribed.
>>724803461Combination of poor reception to Avowed and also because the Xbox brand is at stage 4 cancer. Also because this year has been stacked with RPGs and people are starting to be fatigued of them. The truth is that the game probably would have sold much better if it came out in 2024.
>>724851074Seems to me that they don't care about profit when they have an agenda to push.Because any corporation would stop them from releasing a sequel.
>>724803461Y'all owe Todd an apology. Apologize.
>>724851234Those platforms measure their products by how many new subscribers they attracted.
>>724851201>game literally tells you the NCR is undermanned and spread thin
>>724803461>Why did it flop?It's a small game trying to pretend to be a big game just by throwing money at graphics.If you played the game you noticed how barebone many game elements were.
>>724851373The NCR in the Mojave sure
>>724851074to cut expenses. no need to brainstorm the setting when you have a pre established game universe to just riff on. another proof the game is tailor made gamepass slop
>>724851338Gamepass is clearly failing so I'm not sure how could this help.
>>724851306starfield is even worse, fuck todd
both this and avowed feel like obsidian trying to destroy microsoft from the inside
>>724851521It feels like them trying to emulate Bethesda without knowing how or why
>>724851486Starfield is very similar to OW2. Barebone gameplay, obnoxiously woke characters, empty maps, wasted potential.>>724851448I'm not sure why Gamepass does this over and over again. OW2 is not the only woke trash game. It's like Microsoft doesn't really give a shit.
>>724851486this>>724851306saarfield lasted 2 days on my ssd, i flushed the fecalsoft off when I got to my second planet to explore and it was filled with strong independent pajeetas telling me to solve their problems
>>724851563The whole game feels like stuff stolen from other media products, because they weren't creative enough to come up with their own ideas.
>>724850730The bearded dude on the left with the fringed militarist-look epaulet looks like there could be an interesting story there. The Asian girl on the right with heart kneepads and...a fucking monster arm? Severe burns? Some sort of biological manipulation given the vials on her belt? >>724851112Are the men more varied? I could be more forgiving for stuff like armor and clothing if everyone pretty much wore the same thing and kept covered up, but if the men are wearing space thongs but the women are wearing turtlenecks and burkas fuck that shit. How about the same body type thing? Are all the guys built similarly (with maybe a few rare exceptions like Fallout supermutants or whatever) or do the guy vary and its only the women who are close to being the same? The last bit, if accurate, really is the biggest issue however. There was criticism of the original game that women were both hyper competent girlbosses and condescending to you, whereas most of the men were either outright evil, stupid, wrong, easily manipulated by their 'betters' etc. I'd hope they'd not make the same mistake. Honestly still not sure if its /vpol/ thinking like the people who see cuckoldry everywere or if its legit, but I'd think in the sequel they should go out of their way to avoid that kind of personality being commonplace
>>724803461Literally no one wanted this. Just like no one wanted Avowed.Just like no one wanted Grounded.Meanwhile your favourite game gets no sequels.First OW only got any attention because it was marketed as "from the makes of NV" and coincided with Bethesda shitting the bed with F76.Obsidian for Microsoft is like those chink state-funded construction companies that shit out residential districts that no one lives in or is interested in living in, so it looks good in the papers. I don't get how they're still in the business.
>>724815415>It's sad how gay, black and asian most modern advertising isHaha South East Asians are shat on all the time. If they can't humiliate a White man they'll use a Asian male as a stand in.
>>724851694>Are the men more varied?Yes. Especially the male villains feel the most like real people.>>724851694>The bearded dude on the left with the fringed militarist-look epaulet looks like there could be an interesting story there.He's the most interesting companion and the only one who doesn't outright hate you.>>724851720>I don't get how they're still in the business.They never failed hard enough and either Microsoft is desperate for Gamepass content or Obsidian bullied them into not canceling woke content.
>>724851694>The bearded dude on the left with the fringed militarist-look epaulet looks like there could be an interesting story there.he's a lawtist but you end up killing his nazi faction with him in tow anyway because there's a schism and he's a loyalist to the old hitler instead of the new hitler.
>>724850771Why put a silencer on a shotgun when it decreases your base damage?
>>724827293most of them act insufferable almost as if they're self aware that they're unkillable NPCs that at best you can piss off enough to leave your crew. I think the guy on the left is the only one you can kill if you piss him off which just makes it worse because it's the annoying girlbosses I wanna murder.
>>724851486They're both shit but at least Starfield can be fixed with mods.
It ran like dogshit>hurr you're poor just get a 5090pic related
>>724844467>Ripped off the ending to 3Of all the fucking things...
>>724852179but the base game is so boring that there are no mods because people just don't care
>>724852232dont turn on raytracing lmao
>>724807254I pirate everything I play but I still have standards such as no shovelware, ubislop and nuObsidian
>>724852297All the top mods for Starfield on Nexus are two years old. No one mods the game seriously anymore.
>saarfield vs outer soys
>>724843885You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just admitting you were wrong or lying.
>>724805220>Singleplayer First of all that's wrong. Nobody plays RDR2 for the multiplayer and GTAV is seperate from GTA online and they're both above TOW2. Minecraft also has easily more offline players than TOW2.Even without those games it would still be pathetic to only reach top 22. Starfield was in the top 3 on Xbox during launch week and stayed in the top 10 for over a month.
>>724820658holy shit, big mommy energy
>>724852232False, I run with ray tracing on and easily over 60-120 fps.fsr 4 set to quality.Most settings on high except antialiasing and shadows which I dislike and always lower or disable.
>>724841387>obsidian what the fuck are you doing on microsofts dimemoney laundering and corporate plundering with absurdly profitable nepotism jobs for friends and lackeys
>>724803461the real question is how could it not
>>724827293>I thought it didn't matter what a character looked like as long as they were well-written. What fucking moron told you character design doesn't matter?
>>724833418>does the game fix the nonexistent character building and RPG elementsYes there's a clear focus on multiple playthroughs this time. Most quests have multiple ways to solve them and you will inevitably come across many things you simply can not interact with with your skillset.>useless item clutterNah, it's not Bethesda bad, but still suffers from this like most RPGs like this. >lack of good questsThe quests are a lot better and like I said there are a lot more ways to complete them. >boring writingIt's not as slapstick as the first one, but the ghost of dumb comedy still lingers and sucks a lot of the gravitas out of the story.>sauceless nonsensical worldbuildingThe world is darker and feels a bit more interesting as a result, but it's not something that makes you want to learn more. >mid combat Combat is a lot better and guns feel as lethal as they should. This is on normal, though. >literal copy-paste itemizationThere are fun unique items for all kinds of skillsets.
>>724808335>capitalism badShow us your billions.
because everyone half-asses everything anymore.
Clearly everyone's playing the game on gamepass and in reality the game was a huge success!
>>724855481i pirated it :)
>>724855481Is this why they raised the price of gamepass and are about to cancel the existence of pc gamepass and merge it with console gamepass?
>>724803461im having gay sex in it right now. love it!
Will clockwork revolution suffer the same fate as outer worlds 2, avowed , and starfield or will inxile somehow manage to make kino while being owned by xbox?
>>724851720>I don't get how they're still in the business.well it must be some sort of jewish plot ain't it?I mean it's not like it's even plausible that maybe be you are just a retard only who has surface-level superficial understanding of how the world works
>>724855789Bard's tale was extremely boring so I don't have any hopes for clockwork revolution.
>>724856004They also did Wasteland 2&3 and that Kickstarter scam Torment: Tides of Numenera.
>>724808794Anon there's not going to be a future don't you get it. In 50 years the world wont exist, not like it is today.From 2000-2025 was a major leap. The world will either be destroyed or radically different with new tech
>>724803461first game was boring, only made it to the breaker before shutting off the game one evening to never boot it up again.Avowed was awful, didn't even get to the refund window.Not even willing to give this a chance.
>>724809153They haven't.-t nv troon.London is the new NV.
>>724856272I couldn't stomach Wasteland either.Those games are good in theory but the implementation was very lacking.Only crpgs cultists liked it because it was isometric and had parties, but as games they are extremely boring.Seeing as clockwork revolution will be first person might make it good but I don't trust them.So many time has passed since the announcement and they still haven't said anything about a release date.
>>724803461OW1, avowed, and OW2 are all boring badly written railroaded RPGs pretending to be bethesda gamesBut all their systemic issues are hidden by the retards screaming woke as if it was those games' main problem
>>724803461>Art director straight up says that he wants to replace white people with blacks>rest of obsidian clearly has the same sentiment Obsidian wants me dead so obviously I'll never ever buy any of their slop.
>>724807376>black bull front and center>other man is half obscured and also shorter than the women Powerful
>>724831754Who's Tristan? The Better man?
>>724857738A zealot fascist. People here would probably like the character if they actually knew the game instead of shitposting about something they only saw one picture of.
>>724857825Yeah I bet.
Bro the game looks like dogshit and plays even worse. UI is also trash.
>>724851663They never have been good at that. Ideally they should have continued building a niche for themselves as the guys you hand an existing IP to while you're doing other shit while also learning how to properly estimate development time or at least stick to the plans they pitched and they would have been fine.
>>724803461"More of the same" is not a good thing when the first was complete and utter dogshit.
>>724830624The Free Market Fairy couldn't convince me to shell out $80 for this shit even if I was overdosing on datura.
>>724845579>long hairHave you seen hair rendered in Unreal 5?That's why they didn't.
>>724851720Fuck you I wanted Grounded.
>>724855789It was really funny how Outer Worlds 2's trailer was literally 100% just shooting things, while this game's trailer was actually a good mix of dialogue, RPG mechanics and combat.
>>724857825Lmao not buying it (literally)
>>724807376starfield and this game have really nailed the feeling of going to get groceries and having nondescript pygmies clutter the aisles and stare at you as you pass by
dropped frames interview with the devs and they were bragging about how great their open world is like its not 100 yards of literally nothingness void between poisover 80% of the map of first area has no content , monsters, items, anything
>>724851720>no one wanted GroundedI know you aren't going to believe me. But it turns out that you aren't actually the player character in a game and everyone else isn't just NPCs.
>>724803461>start new game>pick body type 1>pick ALL THE PROSTHETICS>oh yeah, vitiligo!>finish tutorial, talk to an NPC>we live in a meritocracy! this means only people with skills and intelligence can achieve something!>i hate it! communism is better, because its tolerant and everyone is equal!OH YEAH ITSMODERNGAMINGTIME
>>724855789What they've shown of ClockRevo so far has left me intrigued. Call me hopeful, I guess.
It didnt Im having a blast with it
>>724854984>cuckmunism goodshow us the banana you shoved up your marxo-gaytheist faggot ass
>>724851430The Mojave is the NCR's main military campaign, the focus of most of their military efforts. It's also worth mentioning that they're suffering from casualties and desertions to such an extent that they've had to implement conscription, so a lot of the NCR troopers you see in New Vegas are regular guys who were conscripted, given a few weeks of basic training and sent straight to the Mojave to replace professional/career soldiers who were dead, maimed or routed. The Mojave is chewing through the NCR much faster than it's chewing through the Legion.
>>724854984ive been playing for like an hour and ive already heard CAPITALISM BAD COMMUNISM GOOD like thousand times. who the fuck wrote this shit?
>>724806565Yeah this post nails it. It's a good rpg actually, I like the gameplay. That being said it all feels for naught because the art design, story, and characters are so terrible. The main story is just heart of darkness in space Africa but with none of the biting critique. Everything is pretty straightforward and while the writing is less obnoxious it's also very stale. The worlds don't feel believable either, it's better than starfield but they still just feel like plastic theme park queues and the natural environments look fucking AWFUL. I'm still getting enjoyment out of it and it's a better game than the first but it's still so disappointing that nobody can pull off a bethesda clone yet.
>>724808457>You people get mad at the pope for being woke when he says to feed the hungry and treat poor people like humans.No my guy and I am not even catholic. The newest pope said that all religions are paths to God, which is not true according to Jesus Christ.A weird thing for a pope, who you would think serves God, but apparently does not. Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.
>>724859462>its a good RPG but the dialogues, setting, writing, locations, story, NPC's, weapons, skills are shit
>>724803461>gay writing>gay characters>gay world>gay graphics>gay creatures>gay "humour">gay VO's>gay gameplay>gay weapons>gay design>gay musicBecause it's gay.
>>724859517I just mean it has actual rpg mechanics and you can see how the systems all play into each other well. The bar is so low when games like cyberpunk get called rpgs now.
>>724859596>I just mean it has actual rpg mechanics and you can see how the systems all play into each other well.no it doesnt and no they dont. its barely a 1/10 piece of shit game it should be illegal and banned by law to release trash like this.
>>724859680You didn't play it I'm guessing
>>724803461First game was riding the anti Bethesda wave after Fallout 76 sucked. It was “technically better” but no one actually liked it or wanted more of it.
How could it possibly flop? It was made by the same company that made New Vegas!!!!!!
>>724859454Femcels and trannies.
>>724859781The New Vegas audience died of AIDS when Trump cut off their USAIDS supplied Truvada prescriptions
>>724859680Why did being a screaming retard become popular?
>>724859704im guessing you're a faggot. im like 2 hours in, im walking around some tiny ass ugly "wild west" village on some disgusting brown/vomit green planet. i just talked to a janitor in a hospital - he was bitching that meritocratic capitalism is bad, because dumb people with no skills are worthless to society, and communism is much better.did you play it?did you also talk to that janitor in the shitty wild west town?
>>724859156Yeah the new trailer from this year and this pic of the ppl in charge of inxile give me hope for clockwork
>>724859883>>>724859883
>>724859907Yeah their boss wearing an LGBT shit gives me huge hope lmao
>>724859781The dev turned full gay/woke. Dude even has a video on youtube talking about how gay he is and how videogames allowed him to embrace his gayness.Fucking amerimutts with their retarded identity politics ruined fucking everything now that they feel they have to shove their faggotry into everything.Just like how Cory Ballsack nerfed Kratos and turned him into a gay and the game into a narrastive over the shoulder muh feels shit instead of an angry god who just smashes shit.
>>724859907You can tell half of those dudes suck dick.
>>724859890>>724860027this whole fucking "game" feels like a dev social commentary.they wrote a whole bunch of commie gobbledy-gook but forgot its also supposed to be a videogame.
>>724807376>brown townI'm no longer interested in purchasing your videogame.
>>724859890I said the writing was bad, nothing in your post even addressed my criticism of your post. You ironically spaz like a woman
>>724860373>i said its a good rpg even though everything about it is dogshit level bad, stop laughing at my dumbass postsapparently the spazing out woman is right.
>>724860027/threadThis game is a textbook example of how and why woke DEI entertainment always fails. Nobody cares about identity politics.People care about a good story.
>Why did it flop?The first one was a mediocre RPG, worse than indie game passion projects.They hooked people in with "BY THE CREATORS OF FALLOUT NEW VEGAS" and got the short term rewards.But in the long term, Obsidian have suffered by using up their goodwill.This is not an 80 dollar game. It's not worth that much money.It's not worth 60 either. 20-30 maybe.
>>724860551If you don't care about identity politics, why do you keep screaming about how much of a faggot you are?
>>724803461No romance in a AAA game, that's all it takes to at least maintain interest in a normal female audience and some dudes. Even Starfield allowed you to get laid and marry a few people, even though the sex is implied rather than a full blown cutscene
>>724860604I don't. You're imagining things again.Take your meds, faggot.
>>724805220Saar your ESL showing bigly.
>>724817552OW was a modest success, it was the “best anime of the season” success.
>>724803461>Watered down RPG mechanics so it's barely an RPG anymore>No subtlety. CAPITALISM BAD, COMMUNISM GOOD (NO, IGNORE THE STATISTICS! IT'LL WORK WHEN WE DO IT! PROMISE!)>All the protagonist characters are DEI LQBTWTFBBQA better question would be why the fuck are they still trying this shit when the know it's unpopular now?
>>724860453I simply disagree, you are free to elaborate on what part of the rpg mechanics you think are bad but until then disingenuously paraphrasing my post as some type of argument is not doing anything
>>724860604>YES MODERN GAMES ARE INFESTED TO THE CORE WITH IDENTITY POLITICS! PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!>YOU CANT TALK ABOUT IT! PLEASE STOP!>YOU CANT CRITICIZE OR LAUGH AT THIS! STOP!>I WILL CALL YOU A FAGGOT IF YOU WILL CRITICISE IT!WHOA OK BRO THEN I GUESSIAFAGGOTstill a shit game though kill yourself.
>>724861007>amerimutts>knowing anythingAmericans are the least (self)aware creatures on the planet my dear anon. They all live in a bubble.
>>724861053go ahead and elaborate what part of the rpg mechanics ARENT bad.>lets look at the awesome RPG elements of OUTER DEI WORLDS 2>a +10% to attack damage!WHOA>+1 to lockpickHOLYJESUSthis is great, NOBODY EVER BEFORE HAS CAME UP WITH THE RPG MECHANIC OF+ 1 TO LOCKPICK
Are there any semi-decent sci-fi space RPGs that came out in the past 5 years? I want to walk around in my spaceship, talk to people, solve problems, space combat a plus. Been playing Space Haven and Ostranauts so I'm not picky.
>>724861731Rogue Trader?
>>724803461Obsidian has reputation of producing dogshit.
>>724861153Yeah... that's how the systems in the genre have worked for years. At least you can't even lockpick without speccing into it. The character building actually has tradeoffs here. It's a better rpg than anything bethesda has made since skyrim and so it's just about the best fps rpg we have. Thats dismal to think about but its just where we are.
>>724861731>I want to walk around in my spaceship, talk to people, solve problems, space combat a plus.Starfield
>>724862335You trying to make him miserable?
>>724861917Yeah got it. Waiting for it to get all it's DLC before I play it again, though I'm not a fan of the Warhammer 40k universe. Too fantasy. My dream game would be a modern version of Megatraveller.
>>724862384it's the only game that offers all of that
>>724803461anything more expensive than $20 is fighting an uphill battle and will probably flop also>>724804663
None of these games flopped, they don't have to make any money as they were funded by USAID to push the agenda.As long as the message is there, you don't even have to buy it because you're in these threads getting upset.Just like Disney buying out theater tickets to empty theaters to feign success for Captain Marvel, these games are already noted to be successes.
>>724862563Except for being good by any metric.
>>724862976I thought orange man shut down USAIDS
>>724844030>LOL. NO REFUNDS.Why would you think I bought this?
Schizo is replying to himself
>>724863340It's a bot. no idea why anyone would have a bot spam threads about this game. But here we are.
>>724844887They're using those kinds of words because it was more common in use during the 1910s which is the game's aesthetic.
>>724803461It was basically just reuse of assets of OW1, a lazy game with meh story. The mechanics and exploration were fun for a while, but game itself doesnt work well, basically same as Awoved. Looks awful, plays meh, gets boring soon.Fucking Bloodlines 2 is more of original and captivating game than this. I DID spend like 40 hours playing OW2 and i hate that i did.
>>724863210And orange man's been ignoring random fed judges left and right.
>>724807596the nigger unironically is the only interesting char in the game
The game is crap but i like few things. In particualr: in Protectorate cities there is no stealing - you can take all their items from their homes freely, since they are litterally Communist and private ownership doesnt exist
>>724807535You're assuming browns and women can code.
>>724809481>half of early game are locked behind perks and skills that you're never gonna get that earlydisagreeBecause none of those skillchecks matter. I tried multiple playthroughs including "stupid" build with all skills locked out - it really doesnt fucking matter. You can ignore speech, lockpicking, enginerring, science, medicine etc. - since you still can do the quest and rewards for those options are poor and meaningless.There are some thing where theres MINOR impact, like some chars surviving etc. - but it really doesnt fucking matter long term. Truly, just going around killing everyone is the right way to play since pretence of "variativity" is a lie.
>>724863869I came across some aunties troops lecturing a protectorate guy on how he could get a wagie job and then buy stuff. He played along until they left. I tried talking to him and spit out a voice line about how he still loves his commie stuff and then I walked in his house and took all his stuff lol. There are little bits like that where it feels more alive than the old game but barely. It still feels very wooden in most cases but is still way ahead of starfield somehow.
>>724863869what kind of retard thinks that personal property doesn't exist in communist societies?
I'm only on the second planet so far but its good, I actually prefer the first one because holy fuck is everything outside of the main towns hostile. I sort of fucked up by taking the ADHD flaw so I cant even level up my skills how I want and I really cant be bothered to start again since im 9 hours in. With everything being hostile there doesn't seem to be many diverse ways to tackle a situation apart from stealth of guns blazing, but then again my build is completely jack of all trades
>>724864213It doesnt in post scarcity communism because there is no point holding for an item in your possession, if someone else needs it. In ideal, you can just go and request another item if you need it.So person coming to your home and emptying your freezer while you watch is just a weird situation because there is no point of taking items commonly available for all.Its like trying to steal someone`s youghurt in Star Trek, when the person can just request it beign generated by nanomachines from thin air.
>>724864323dont bother, there is no balance and no fun in playing on hard difficulties and no point in trying any approach except for gun blazing - in fact, you just rob yourself of fun.Pick normal or even easy difficulty and kill everyone. Harder will just make you spend more ammo on enemies.
>>724864323The general formula for this type of game seems to be you still have to fight or sneak your way through a bunch of fodder so that you can speech check at the end when you get to the person you came to talk to/kill. It's a problem with a lot of rpgs where if you want to have a charisma build it's really only fun in the town areas because most other quests just have you walking somewhere to fight enemies.
>>724803461Gaypass curse.
im playing a crit plasma gunslinger build on hard and im enjoying it. professor background, going for an archaeological smuggler vibe.
why all the crpgs fucking suck now a days?
>>724864880because crpg devs suck
>>724864438I might switch to easy, Vox was unfun and im getting fed up of these accurate and tanky cultists. Infect I take back saying the game was good, im convincing myself it is, the towns are good but the missions and combat suck dick. Ill come back to it after Ninja Gaiden 4.>>724864492Seems like my gripe with other similar games post NV. If there's 20 different skills to chose from but 4 of them are always a must have then its bullshit. I should be able to be a scientist who sits back and let's his robots do the fighting and pass boss fights with my speech alone.
>>724864880Because BG3 was too good and the rest pale in comparison.
>>724865541>BG3 goodayylmao
>>724865876seethe more, /v/ermin
Imagine paying 80 bux to prance around as a nigger. At least make the main character a loli or something like Pragmata did.
>>724805220That’s like winning the special Olympics against people with no legsAnd you walked
>>724864323>>724864492>>724865106>theres literally a perk in the speech tree that scales your damage. >engineering gives you free damage for having a single mod on your weapon>speech itself increases damage to humans>you dont need more than like 3-4 points in guns for all relevant crit skills besides the 20 guns one which is a waste>your non combat skills scale your damage to a point any extra points in guns is wasted anywaysits not like your speech build is gimped. youre strong as fuck regardless.
>>724865936kys tranny
>>724867119>waaaaah i cant talk down literally every member of this faction that literally brainwashes people for questioning their ideology in harmless ways>nevermind the fact that the first planet has 2-3 settlements from that same faction that you can talk your way into!
>>724867119I don't feel underpowered in combat or anything I just also don't feel like the speech skill is a consistent play style. It just feels like it unlocks more dialouge options and not different approaches to how I play. Not a unique flaw of this game by any means though
>>724859781Dev is most definitely a "Ship of Thesus" where all the old staff are replaced by blue haired queers so only the name remains.
>>724807596If I told you, it would sound too anti-semitic for our local and brave janitors :)
>>724807596Google "Kalergi's plan"
>>724867119And all that literally only helps the guns blazing solutions. There is no option for diplomacy or ways to talk your way out of hostilities
>>724851074filler games for game pass
>>724869135Just go Stealth if you don't wanna fight.
>no respecs>choices actually matter>radio>exploring and scavenging decimated towns>weird creatures >build actually mattersclose enough to NV for me
>>724803461It's literally idiotic to make a game critiqueing capitalism when people are currently getting rich from side hustles or the stock market due to the extreme bull run.
>>724872813It's amazing how much the radios laying around make it feel like fallout
>>724872963>capitalism is when Jewish scams are artificially protected from any sort of fraud chargesno.
>>724865541bg3 wasnt even average. same category of woke trash as veilguard, but somehow with even more boring combat.
>>724860373>I said the writing was bad>You didn't play it I'm guessing
Will this one be popular enough to get a mod to fix the ugly characters? The first wasn't.
>>724803461The first one was a dull, banal, mediocre shitshow that was simultaneously too long and too short. The moon guy is a terrible choice of mascot and literally a rip-off of Futurama. Having played the first game, I would never want to play a sequel. MORE of that shit? MORE? Fucking no fucking thanks. One galaxy full of danger hair sidecut women was enough.
>>724873319>same category of woke trash as veilguardThey're not even remotely similar. The only way you could think that is if you are operating purely off of second-hand information. BG3 lets you rob, kill, steal, and otherwise remove any character you don't like and offers a general high amount of freedom. Veilguard should be studied for how little agency it allows the player. People weren't joking in the slightest when they said it was a game made by an HR team rather than a development one. The most hostile thing you can do is agree to disagree with someone and conversations play out like TV-Y7 show.
>>724864880owlcat games are OK
>>724805117LOL
>>724874870Owlcat games are fucking garbage and are a litmus test for thirdies
>>724874703Take your retard medication before posting
I just want to cuddle with mommy Augustine
>>724803461Gay.Unreal 5.Bad writing.Expensive.Boring world.Generic Bethesda slop clone.Bugs/performance.Visuals.Sneed I say more?
>>724874703>Be larian >Take a single play style from the sandbox of the original baldur's gate games>Make it the subject of the entire incoherent lore breaking main story made by pajeets and homosexuals >Some faggot on /v/ has not stopped licking their asshole for how amazing it is that larian could pull this off What's it like having non existent standards
im playing it now and its decent. i bet everyones just playing it on gamepass. theres nothing exciting about it though and the girls are ugly.
>>724805117Kek spbp
>>724803461No one asked for a sequel of this dogshit tranny game.
>>724877415>and the girls are ugly.Everything about it is ugly. The environments, the colors, the outfits, the people. It's just 100% ugly. Literally nothing in this game looks good.
>>724859156>>724859907It's not even "only le white developers make good games" (despite the fact that there were a shitton of game devs full of white dudes that made a lot of shite like Rare post Nintendo or any dev studio involved with Peter Molyneux) that makes me confident that the game will be decent. It's just the fact that the dev team is so small (70 people according to Wikipedia) and the shit they've shown so far looks cool. It may end up being disappointing, but I don't think it could be as bad as Starfield or OW2, where they clearly had no idea what they wanted to do with the game and just slapped some shit together to get something out the door. I think it'll be a good game or at least decent.Also the chubby Asian chicks on the left side are mine
>>724803461It's a game that didn't deserve a sequel to begin with. The first game was not good. What the fuck are you contrarians sniffing these days?
>>724880210>Nooooooo you can't just make another game that improves on what you did wrong with the first one
>>724803461its free (piracy)
>>724803461I didn’t know this even released. It was an obvious failure when they announced it. A game made for the millennial redditor crowd that doesn’t even play videogames anymore.
>>724880530What are these improvements that you're speaking of obsiditroon?
>>724803461Too mid, too safe. No depth where it matters for a game of this genre.I just desecrated the Tomb of the Matriarch, the founder of the Protectorate. Stole her remains, while my zealous Protectorate companion just stood there and watched, did nothing other than saying some naive remark.
>>724807376Westoids just can't make good looking characters anymore, seriously like what the fuck is this shit?They look straight from Concord, that same unimaginative sci-fi design.
>>724873827Lmao no. It can't even pass the peak player count of the first game on Steam.
>>724873827its not about popularity, its about the engine being a pain to mod.
>>724804663FPBP
>>724807931Representation matters, chud.
game is too goofie
>>724807376I bought the first outer worlds, this screenshot killed all my interest in it's sequel.
>>724803461I don't have time to skip through all that crappy reddit dialogue
This game came out?
>Buy the full game >Text box pops up: LMAOOO YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT RETARD YOU BOUGHT THE WHOLE THING!!! FUCKING CONSOOMER RAT!>Penalizes me with a flaw: GOOD GOY CONSOOMER RAT!!>>>Shoot giant butch boss nigger in technicolor low rent Spartan armor because I'm just sick and tired of "big badass no nonsense butch nigga boss bitch" bullshit >Text box pops up "YOU DONE GOOFED NOW YOU LIL' MANLET! HOO BOY, GONNA GET YO CISHET BOYHOLE BEAT UP NOW!"I'm beyond fatigued.
>>724879720I think some of the environments and creatures look cool but otherwise I agree. Fucking wild to me getting introduced to the first major faction and they're wearing garish lime green and orange armor that just looks absolutely retarded. With a few exceptions, the guns are ugly too. There's nothing that really stands out as something cool that I want to use or wear visually. It's like they got lost huffing their own farts on their lame ass setting and forgot about actually making it appealing to spend time in.
>>724885970>Buy the full game >Text box pops up: LMAOOO YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT RETARD YOU BOUGHT THE WHOLE THING!!! FUCKING CONSOOMER RAT!>Penalizes me with a flaw: GOOD GOY CONSOOMER RAT!!No way, I don't believe (You)
>>724864880Because the RPGs got hijacked, and all the big companies metooed almost all their talent out.
>>724887134you also get it in-game by buying from vendors a bunch, all the flaws are making fun at your playstyle and offering a monkeys paw
>>724887567I got this because I kept stealing everything>increased sell price for stolen goods>your character will automatically steal everything in the vicinity
How do I time skip 3 days so the town will stop being aggro at me? You cant sleep or wait in this game.
>>724887567Jesus it's real... How can game devs have such utter vitriolic disdain for the people that support them? Are they insane?
>>724887716Meta commentary is a cancer and every socialist college dropout has it. They find this shit legitimately hilarious.
>>724803461It did worse than the shitty non-sequel Bloodlines 2, I can't believe it.
Why do modern video game makers hate the people who buy their games?
>>724803461Neither the setting nor the artistic decisions made the game very appealing.
>>724887567fucking yikes dude
>>724803461Because simply, who gives a fuck about the outer worlds? Is there a single person out there who has any sort of actual fondness for the original? It always looked like the most middling game of all time. Say what you will about New Vegas but it at least has a distinctive look, people know it when they see it
>>724887567Some neo-communist intern thought this was just the funniest shit ever.
>keep reloading even when 99% full
>stealth playstyle
>>724892703I'm... I'm okay with this one actually.
>>724892779This one is also... fine.
>skipping through dialogue
>maps are so fucking dark I leave the flashlight constantly on
>companions keep dying because theyre useless
>crouch a shit ton
>>724807376They look almost good, there's some traces of coolness in their outfits, but there's something that makes them look impressively boring.>Cripple in the middle Kek, they really couldn't resist.
>stare at the sun
do you actually get to play as a man with a giant moon head?
