Making a VTMB2 thread cause I haven't seen what copes the shill has come up in the last few daysHaving a blast!
>>724826216I enjoyed the game. Haven't been in a single thread on it. But I thought it was pretty fun and had an enjoyable story. How other people felt about it isn't really my problem.Phyre was cool.
>>724826440REEEEEEEEEEE SHILL SHILL SHILL
>>724827047I literally don't even know any of this shitposting on the game because it took me 10 days to finish and I avoided this board because I didn't want spoilers.I completely get why various people hate it. It ain't the first game. But I found it very fun to play and interesting.I am a simple man. Game fun to play? Then it is a good game to me.
>>724826440You probably have AIDS, you should go to the doctor for your gay
>>724827227How the fuck did it take you 10 days!?The full playthrough was released the same day it was cracked and it was a 13 hour vid.
What "builds" did you guys end the game playing with? I was a Brujah with Entrancing Kiss, Split Second, Taunt, and Mass Manipulation.
Wouldn't it be crazy if some of the scrapped character models showed up in the DLC.
>>724827643Is that a *gulps* pussy?
>>724826216It's a shit game not worth of thinking of. Worse than earthblood worst than Swanson. Plain shit. I hope the devs mothers die in their sleep tonight.
>>724827812I liked Earthblood.
>>724826440How long did it take to beat?
There are icons in the file for Christmas update and Valentine's day update. I hope that the valentine's update has improved character relationship stuff. Maybe the ability to go walk in the park with your vampire waifu.
>>724827643fully modeled?
so how strong is Nomad actually?
>>724827643Hardsuit's models were actually all significantly improved by The Chinese Room. But I would have liked to see some of these make an appearance.
>>724828734He kills most mortals in one punch, so STR 6 natty.
>>724827553>buildsJust stop
>>724828734Inconsistently strong. The plot really can't make up its mind whether the mark is sapping her powers or not.>>724828903The devs admitted that the opening scene with punching the mortal across the room was added because playtesters kept saying "No" when asked if they felt like a powerful vampire yet.
>>724827358Come on mate, some people have lives.
>>724827358It's very easy to get sidetracked just playing around in the open world fighting hunters on the rooftops and stuff.
>>724829127Have you not tried punching pedestrians? Most ragdoll after one hit.
>>724828998There's a reason it was in quotes. I was just interested in what other people were doing.
I dropped the game halfway, can someone tell me what the hell the mark was?
>Get stalked and staked by a vampire approximately 1/10th your age.Wow! I'm just such a powerful and dangerous Elder! Look out world!
>>724826440I pirated this game I like it solid 7/10. what I dont like but it is pretty fun is that you can unlock all the powers from all clans. the only difference between clans is the irrelevant passive perk also the dialogue options is watered down to retarded levels but on the first games aside of lore the dialogs were pretty useless to.
>>724829670It was so another soul would inhabit and then take over your body after diablerie. It was meant for a dead Sabbat, but you ate Fabien instead. Also the motivation for the big bad was love and heartbreak. Lame as fuck reveal.
>>724829370>and stuffWhat exactly? Having same three sidemissions every night? Also, calling that "open world" is an absolute exaggeration
>>724829956>empty>boring>lifelessYep, that's open-world.
>>724829757I like how Tolly straight up rejects you if you try to flirt with him, basically calling you a geriatric.>>724829670The purpose of the mark was to furrow the soil, to prepare Phyre's body to be taken over by Gideon/The Gardener's soul. Gideon's body could not be fixed, and Safia was desperate to both save him, and get her revenge on Lou.What is interesting is that on ArtStation we get a glimpse at what the original warehouse looked like (the one with the box). It was originally called Ritual Warehouse. I think the original vision was that Fabien was a random thinblood who was sacrified for some purpose. This got rewritten and Safia got changed from a fake Tremere into a real Tremere and stuff like that.
>>724829879> irrelevant passive perk>Flesh of Marble
>>724829757He wasn't a flamboyant gay stereotype until Paradox got his hands on him
>game runs buttery smooth in prologue level>get to the open world>stutters everywhere and barely holding 60>it never went away even after entering an interior space
>>724829956There's collectables to find, there's random NPCs to chat up while you gather resonant blood, and there's just the VTMB experience of walking around the urban environments soaking up the vibes.
yikes
>>724830013And how would you'd compare bl2 "open world" to games like skyrim, gta 4/5, cyberpunk, etc. ?
>>724829670>>724830027I see, thanks.
>>7248300984,396 24h peak is pretty decent. I wonder how long it'll hold. They really need to move quickly and patch the game and have a massive update ready by Christmas. Preferably have a big update addressing some core issues by the end of this month. They really need to have one major update each month dealing with core criticisms. If they can do that, it'll sell. People want to buy it.
>>724830137I'd say it's much better. BL2 is a perfect game, unlike all the other woke garbage you mentioned. Not a single tranny flag in the whole game. Not even Skyrim can claim that.
>>724830090>collectiblesYeah, three kinds, two of em your crosshair tells you when one is nearby. 30 marks, 20 daggers and 30 cameras. Wow.>random NPCs to chat up while you gather resonant bloodThree things you can say to them, all of which lead to a same thing (i can hear your heart, give all you have to me and some third option that I cant remember) and I'm emphasizing that you have ONE thing to say before the "conversation" ends. "Chatting up", how dishonest you are>walking around the urvan environments soaking up the vibesSo you are an actual shill, what the fuck man.
>>724830027Fabien was probably a thin-blood who diablerized YOU, which is a bad idea if you're low generation. Would've explained why you started with no disciplines and the remnants of a personality in your head.
>>724830249Patience is "non-binary" it would seem.
>>724830230>one major update each mo th dealing with core criticismsYou'd need to change the whole game, not gonna happen
>>724830451You made that up you woke faggot. Patience is a woman, or else my dick wouldn't react the way it does to her.
>>724830249You went too far in your bait here, you need to be more subtle.
>>724830230>People want to buy it.For like $20 maybe. That's the only way anyone is going to care enough to buy this UE5 slop who hasn't already bought it.
https://youtu.be/3UfkGZtmwes
>>724827553Ventrue clan passive+cauldron of blood is the most busted thing you can do, I think. Feeding on someone affected by your Cauldron of Blood makes you take damage over time but also refills a blood pip to all of your skills each time the damage ticks, and Ventrue's defense buff after feeding reduces the damage from about 50% of your total health to like 2%.
>>724829757>Try to write a catty smartass Nosferatu >Just ends up being a sassy faggotThe worst are the Toreador, though. Worst fucking way to write them, literally nothing but "art art art" to the point of being beyond retarded. Every conversation, every single line of dialogue, has to work in the "UH DID YOU KNOW TOREADORS LIKE ART" shit. Worse than Fishmalk shit.
>>724830501No, you can make targeted changes. Improve the controls so kick isn't dodge+attack for some baffling reason. Improve parrying. Streamline the Fabien sequences and make them skippable on replays. Improve performance. Then once that's done, you begin working on sidequests feeling like chores instead of interesting jobs, and stuff like that. They are going to keep working on it, and they also have story DLC coming, but they have to move quickly on the big pain points.
I finished it once and it felt like playing a rushed mess. Instead of replaying it I just reinstalled Redemption. Finishing Vienna rn.
>>724831094>they have to move quickly on the big pain points.Dude, "the big pain points" aren't things like "improving parrying" or changing how kick works. It's not even the fabien gameplay (which they already said will make optional after a playthrough). How can you even say that "when that's done, THEN you start working on sidequests"? It's not a "month" that they can create sidequests in the spirit as they did in the first one you know, they would basically need to scrap all of the RPG-elements (which are weak), they would have to fix the whole story (your decisions have no effect, if someone is pleased/irritated to hear something, it doesn't change anything. Like fuck man, you better be trolling me
>>724831074The Torries were trite (to be expected) but I did like the fight with the club hostess. Never thought the clan could be exciting villains, but Presence is scary it turns out.
>>724831308I've always wanted to finish Redemption but I suck at cRPGs.
>>724831094Did you play the original? You think combat had a single thing to do with the fact that it's a beloved game?
>>724831526It was a cool idea but locking you out of all your powers for the entire boss fight was really lame considering how shallow the combat already is.
>>724831657I forgot about that honestly. It felt sad playing through the game and having the constant thought, "none of this is memorable". All those places in the open world and none were used for anything. No side character has a personality that's fun or interesting. It's fun enough for what it is, but it won't be something I return back to.
>>724831521>It's not a "month" that they can create sidequests in the spirit as they did in the first oneOh, no they're never going to do that. What I mean is taking the existing sidequests and making them actually narratively interesting. So instead of "go here, kill this guy, come back" you make it a multi-stage thing, and give the player more flexibility on whether they kill the target.Same with package delivery. You get asked to pick up something. And you actually have to pick it up from an NPC. Who maybe wants something from you. Or maybe they get attacked, and someone steals the package and it's a chase sequence. Stuff like that.> if someone is pleased/irritated to hear something, it doesn't change anything.It actually changes how they talk to you in later sequences, and whether they will talk to you about their personal lives. That's why Fabien has different dialogue if you've been a complete shitter to him. But nobody is mean to him, so they all get the same dialogue.
>>724831631nta but the combat is okay in the first game i t hink..
>>724831939Yeah the only character that didn't make me roll my eyes was Ryong and look how that turned out.
>>724831657>It was a cool idea but locking you out of all your powers for the entire boss fight was really lame considering how shallow the combat already is.You only get locked out if you refuse to tell her that art is violence and agree to play the role she wants you to play.Also, something the Ysabella fight reveals is that most people playing have no idea how to parry. The game has a parry mechanic. Her fight is built around it. Nobody knows how to parry because that's only mentioned in the codex, not in the tutorial. Batshit decision, just like how kicking isn't mentioned in the tutorial either.
>>724831627I have been replaying it every few years since 2001 and I it never gets old for me. There is a plenty of old walkthroughs around and you can use the moddb patch to optimize it.
>>724832080I'm pretty sure they have you parry a guy in the tutorial right after they teach you how to dodge. Anyway I talked shit to her in the pre-boss conversation but I guess you have to only pick the most aggressive options to not get locked out of your disciplines.
>>724831939>No side character has a personality that's fun or interesting.I can't think of a single character who isn't fun or interesting. Maybe you just don't like v5? There's a certain... tone to v5 VTM that is present in this game and Swansong. It's a kind of huge swerve away from the colourful punk/goth vibe of the first Bloodlines towards a kind of clinical, dry "vampires represent the mega wealthy" thing.
I want to make a video talking about Bloodlines 2. What should I focus on?
>>724827849Earthblood was a bad Werewolf game. Even the two choose your own adventure text pc games were better
>>724832161This is godtier trolling
>>724832161Alright, what's so fun and/or interesting about the walking talking cringefest that is Safia?
here's your toreador https://youtu.be/VrPh20ZdRPg
>>724832231Safia is awesome, what's your issue with her. How is she a "cringefest"?
Yeah ok just kill yourself already.
>>724832330Answer the question instead of deflecting and countering with a question, shill
>>724832390What I love about Safia aside from her voice, mannerisms, the fact she's a girl, the fact she's a Tremere, the fact she likes science, is the fact she's not a very good actress and her real emotions keep poking through, and she keeps hiding her anger and despair behind flustered responses. She is practically falling apart when she hears about The Gardener but she tries to hide it.I think it's a testament to how rich and layered every character in Bloodlines 2 is.
>>724832161I don't think the characters were dry or clinical, just boring. They tried to make them quirky, but the writing wasn't there. And vampires have always represented the wealthy. They're bloodsucking parasites.
>>724832201Yes, it was a bad werewolf game. I still liked it, I'll probably play it again some day. It's the closest to an actual WtA game we'll ever get, sadly.
>>724830050Yeah, it runs like absolute ass. It's the curse of open world games, they all have terrible memory access patterns or just too much data (I can't believe that's the case for BL2 though since it's so small). 70% load on primary CPU thread (R5 5600X), GPU running at 50% TDP (RTX 3070). Just terrible performance. Would probably do better on an X3D CPU, but this is still inexcusable.>>724830137Much worse. The story is actually pretty good, particularly how everything fits together. But it's not much of an open world game and even less of an RPG. At least Cyberpunk had a true open world, even if it was as shallow as GTA, and it had a real RPG system. Oh yeah, I didn't notice this that long because I used Cheat Engine, but you can only use each power once before they need to be recharged by drinking blood. Absolute trash system. They really wanted to lean into the telekinesis mechanic (which can be used without limit). Pretty much any enemy goes down quickly if you have the right gun, but you can't really take them with you because using telekinesis violates the masquerade. And you can't reload them either. And you can't single/burst fire, they just shoot repeatedly until empty. Also, there are arbitrary doors (level transitions) that prevent you from taking guns through. For all its faults and arbitrariness though, combat is actually fun. But this isn't the game Bloodlines fans wanted.And this is the good half of the game. The bad half is Fabian Walking Simulator. God damn. I was thinking about playing it again with mods because gliding around and swooping down on and beating up mooks was kinda fun. And now I'm not.
>>724832582The writing is great, though. The average conversation is a lot better written than Bloodlines 1, where every goddamn character has the same smarmy 2003-era proto-Reddit tone.
>>724832185Safia's feet.
>>724832669>And this is the good half of the game. The bad half is Fabian Walking Simulator. God damn. I was thinking about playing it again with mods because gliding around and swooping down on and beating up mooks was kinda fun. And now I'm not.This is the identity crisis the game has. They got worried that the game was too action oriented, so relatively late in development they bolted on these walking sim sections. Was it a mistake? Maaaaybe? A lot of people love Fabien. But it's like how the Lord of the Rings extended cuts absolutely fuck the pacing and ruin the films. They probably should have cut Fabien or SEVERELY speed up the pacing of his sequences so they're like 5 minutes long each. They smack of being DLC shoved into the main story because they absolutely are. It's Missing Link but a million times worse.
>>724832692Reddit is my favorite site so that's probably why I like the first Bloodlines over this shit heap of a game.
>>724832669When I learned that the Chinese Room are the devs it was a relief because I knew we are going to get a laidback walking simulator. Too bad it still sucked ass.
>>724828820Is that the Baron guy
>>724832669I thought the combat was fun until they started dumping in the fucking white freaks all over the place. Those weren't fun to fight when the whole system is built around sucking blood mid fight to top off. All your options become null, and their combat patterns are bullshit. Of course, I didn't know about the party system but idk if that would've made a difference.
>>724832962Nah, there's no known model for the Baron. Fabien wears his hat, though.
>>724826216The problem is that this game is like a 5/10 at best and it has zero RPG elements and its a sequel to an RPG that has some of the best writing and visual design in the entire medium
Was this dude on the right the initial Fletcher concept?
>>724833003The problem with the monsters is that there is no proper way to resupply on potions. What the fuck were they thinking? Truth is, they probably weren't. Aspects of this game are so blatantly stitched together with clashing visions.
>>724832845>the Lord of the Rings extended cuts absolutely fuck the pacing and ruin the filmsThis is the worst take on something I've ever read, and I browse 4chan daily.
>>724833062No that's Lou's husband that would be in the room for all of your romance scenes with her.
>>724833062I think Fletcher is based on this model called DB Cooper. Weirdly there are mentions of DB Cooper in the final game.
>>724833075The LOTR extended cuts are dogshit. All those scenes were cut for a reason. They absolutely destroy the flow and pacing. Two Towers is a clusterfuck in its extended version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7RSc-EzuVMits crazy how you can pick out any random conversation from VTMB, a rushed jankfest with practically no budget, and it has better writing, voice acting, and animation than 98% of games released today
>>724833249>average movie watcher>cannot comprehend kino appreciaterIt's about vision, not what's palatable to the plebs like you.
>>724833373The animation in VTMB1 is actually really bad. It's way over-emotive, characters constantly snap between poses. There's a reason everyone abandoned this in favor of what Crysis was doing.
>>724833543they're way more expressive and emotive than anything released today. its a comic book game. i don't want it to look like real life
>>724833543>cant refute<well um the animations are bad in that game which was released 21 years ago
>>724833543okay tcr shill
>>724832845>Was it a mistakeNo it was definitely a mistake. And I like Fabian. But he's better as a "Johnny Silverhand"-type head-narrator than a main character (now that I think about it, I fucking hated Johnny Silverhand's sequences too, anything that takes away player agency is a bad thing unless it builds suspense, and flashbacks can't do that by definition). His sequences were SO BORING, even when his story was interesting, because there was so much pointless walking and he can't even JUMP, let alone beat up mooks.Should've put the Nomad in the dreams, let us beat up mooks, let Fabian get flustered like, "Hey, I didn't do that! You're gonna violate the masquerade!"
>>724834262the problem is that the combat isn't interesting enough to carry the game on its own, and the gameplay outside of fabian is pretty much just combat, and without the fabian segments the game is pitifully short and repetitive. although originally DLC and marketed as "responding to fans" its clear they added the fabian segments because they were scrambling to find ways to expand the game. playtesting obviously was going south
>>724832845>>724834262Fabians sections would have been fine if they weren't padded with so much filler.>oh you want to use the elevator? Well first you have to complete these three chores for meHis sections do have plot relevance, but they could easily be cut down by half if they removed all the filler fetchquests.Imagine if every Johnny flashback had you complete three fetchquests before getting to the actual meat.
>>724834262They should've made his segments contained to a small area. Why am I walking from every corner of the map for this bullshit? Do I really need to ask Silky about his faggot weekend getaways? What the fuck is Tolly doing in the middle of the park that's crawling with police and pedestrians?
>Go to NPC trainer to unlock a discipline from another clan>Have to drink their blood firstDid V5 change how this shit works or are these motherfucker's trying to blood bond me?
>>724835382No that's how it works for learning out of clan disciplines. Or at the least it aids the process. You must drink 1 pint of vitae for 1 point if blood bonding. Drinking a little bit of their blood does nothing but give you a bit of affinity for it.
https://youtu.be/6xRCZePzzqM?si=lnhH6ZuQTH4k_-SXI still want it
>>724832692>The writing is great, though. The average conversation is a lot better written than Bloodlines 1You shills have gone completely shameless.Careful you don't catch AIDS while you soak in those dialogueshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVo_KKW_a5Y
>>724834748Then they should have made a better game instead of shoehorning a bunch of garbage sequences in to make it longer. They could have spent their time making a more complex game system with full RPG rules. Instead they added a walking simulator that nobody wanted or asked for. The fact there is even a standardized term of ridicule for this type of gameplay indicates how unwanted it is.Or just accept that your game is only 6 hours long and price it accordingly. Short and sweet is perfectly acceptable. I had way more fun gliding around swooping down on mooks than I did in any of Fabian's sequences. He's entertaining and likeable but that doesn't make it fun. I mean, I laughed the first time I realized Fabian was doing the voices for the objects he "interrogates" but that's only gonna happen the first time. You can't stretch that joke for 6 hours.Actually, I think they just didn't know how to tell Fabian's part of the story without the flashback sequences, which is quite simply a failure of story telling. Being dead, his story was already written, after all, so logically it wouldn't be interactive. I still think they should have put the Nomad in Fabian's place, let them both wonder wtf is going on, let you beat up mooks and have Fabian complain and worry about the timeline or some shit, let you talk to Lou and whatnot as if you're the Nomad and not Fabian, let them write it off as just Malk things. Who cares if it makes sense. The combat was already fun, don't take that away. You can do whatever you want in a dream, so it's fine.
>>724835249>contained to a small area>>724835224>padded with so much filler.Well this just goes back to what this anon>>724834748 is saying doesn't it?If they made the filler shorter, it wouldn't be much of a filler. They should have made the filler BETTER, like actually fun. Running around as the Nomad is perfectly fine, because if I get bored I can just climb a roof and see if there are any mooks to beat up. They could have made Fabian's running around more fun. But they probably didn't because they thought it would be illogical for a guy who already died to do something that could get him killed sooner.
>>724836461for some reason they thought that no one liked the first game for being an rpg, i still have no idea why they would think this
how can i unlock clan chocula in the first game?
>>724829370>It's very easy to get sidetracked just playing around in the open world fighting hunters on the rooftops and stuff.>actually enjoying the garbage combat>actually enjoying the extremely limited enemy typeswhat the fuck is wrong with you?
>>724830090>There's collectables to findubisoft style "collectibles". oh wow>there's random NPCs to chat up while you gather resonant bloodall of which say the same things>just the VTMB experience of walking around the urban environments soaking up the vibes.what the hell is the matter with you
>>724832569the real safia is long dead you're talking to cemene or whatever the hell her name is supposed to be.
>>724837940What the fuck is wrong with you for replying to obvious bait and/or retardation?
Kill yourself shill, it flopped
>>724826216>You have to embrace the strong black woman vampire hunter or the Inquisition will kill every Kindred in SeattleYeah okay
What happened to this fella
>>724839090He was cut and was Vandal
When you hear about how TCR had to censor the sex noises to get the age rating they wanted globally, it makes you realize how off the table strippers were.
>>724834748The Fabien sequences were a response to players wanting to walk and talk instead of fight.
>>724839891>>724839668You respond like an employee trying to do stealth marketing.
>>724840608it is, the shill has a weird obsession with Fabien
>>724839668It all boils down to publishers not wanting to deal with the baggage of multiple SKUs.
>>724826216This game had absolutely no impact; nobody cared.
Every game has to sell millions of copies, which means they have to cater to the lowest common denominator. If only video games could have a budget with the intent of making a profit off of only a couple dozen of thousands of sales, then maybe video games could be good again...
>>724841196
>>724841115History repeats itself.
>>724831074this
>>724832569> - Why do you think this character is interesting?> -- Uh, uhhh, she has a voice and habits and, uh... a vagina...Compelling stuff there Mr marketer.
>>724839312>>724839090lame
>>724840946Its very obvious that he is the poochie of the game and definitely one of the writer's pets/OCs/self insert. I mean they delayed the game a year just to add more dialogue for him and have you play as him for sections of the game. I am a bit curious to look up the writers for this shit and see if some retard that looks like Gaybien is on the team, or if there was character that was cut from another walking sim they made that is just him.
>>724841241wonder how many times you've posted something similar throughout these threads
>>724829757>die to 2 guys with shotguns in 3 secondsYOU ARE THE NOMAD
>>724841241People liked VtMB, the issues with it were technical not that it was made by a bunch of retards that can only make retarded walking sims. Kill yourself shill.
>>724841640I wonder when he will fuck off? Like is it just going to be this daily until the quarter ends? Like the game is already and obvious flop. The critics made it clear the game was ass but were paid not to go below a five, user scores tear it apart and the ones that are positive are inorganic as hell, and player counts are lower that trannyguard.
>>724841634>writer's pets/OCs/self insert.this and >was character that was cut from another walking sim they made that is just him.this.People theorized that Paradox forced TCR to add the action shit over the walking sim they clearly wanted to make.
Clan Passive rankings>SVentrue>ABrujah, Banu>BLasombra>CToreador>DTremerethe clan perks are a little trickier but the Lasombra one is the best by far, with the rest varying depending on a few factors. the stealth sprint is the worst and does close to nothing, and in particular is not particularly useful to the Banu from whom the perk comes.
>>724841241lol most comments I see about this game are people disappointed in it.
>>724826216It's because Paradox could only afford one shill and he's terrible at it
>>724841949No, the OG director wanted VTMB2 to be an action game. The walking sim stuff came later.
>>724841949well the funny thing is that TCR was apparently the one who asked Paradox to make VTMB2, so their plan was probably to smuggle in a walking simulator the whole time
>>724841857Never. Daily/weekly threads for the indefinite future. Hope you're lookong forward to the patches, DLC, and mods.
>>724841693No, the issues with VTMB range from a rubbish plot to sucking as an RPG.
>>724842371People don't even want to mod Starfield. What makes you think this will have a modding scene thats even slightly alive?
>>724842248>shill is posting shit from the vtmb subreddit againKill yourself
>>724842303You all whined about the warehouse demo being action, action, action, so they listened.
>>724842404im sure that was the mantra at TCR, but reality hits hard and the universal criticism of the sequel is that its not a good sequel to the RPG first game
>>724842371No, shills only go as long as they get paid to. This retard isn't from a firm and most likely works for TCR or Paradox directly. Once the game is announced as a definitive flop they will start laying people off and the com managementfags are always the first to get the axe.
>>724842404>rubbishhello tcr employee, remember your game will never be a cult classic
>>724842404Its not, you have to lie and bring up shit people say about shitlines to cope.
>>724842248is this supposed to make vtmb2 seem lame
>>724842543He works for TCR. He uses random British terms time from time and he HATES vtmb.
just did the Damsel scene and it was so bad and out of place i was aghast. but in fairness they accurately captured the fact that Damsel is a fucking poser
>I'm eating shit and loving it!Yeah uh, aight. Go off queen.
>>724842112Regardless of utility, the banu alien crawl is one of the best things in the game
>>724842626Okay then its even more likely lay offs will hit him. Do they have a public email? a Linkdin? You can probably find out who this moron is by seeing who works under that polish bitch.
your next line is:>it was a bad deus ex clone!
>>724842764Or Dishonored, he loves saying this trash is like Dishonored
>>724842406Because there are already a bunch of mods on Nexus. Costume mods already in works.
>>724842707No clue but I saw reviews on Glassdoor being passed around
>>724843074>Costumesfor what? for the ugly character with an annoying voice whose ugly face can't be changed?
>>724842406Having an immensely fuckable cast helps.
>>724842371Hopefully a janny starts nuking your threads>>724843132what
>>724843132?ive seen the characters in this game and they're like, 6/10 sexyi dont really care about that but cmon, objectively speaking they're just whatever
>>724843114If you don't think think Phyre is hot you're in a very small minority.
>>724843231Im sure your Discord safe space thinks that
>>724843132Spit in my mouth you viciously beautiful bitch.
whats with all the bait itt?
>>724843132I like the Lasombra girl due to my rampant stage four jungle fever and Lou is good looking but that's about it, maybe Safia if you like nerds. But the thing is a lot of them except for Lou are kinda ruined by their personality. The Toreador girl was probably the most egregiously disappointing one for me
>>724843132lol
>>724843316hes been doing it for years!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3hgRlu7MF8youtubers are starting to make hour long critical videos! its over shill
I wish Phyre were even more hornily disinterested than she already is.
>>724843480Is that the video that complains about vampires smoking despite vampires smoking in every single VTM game including both Bloodlines and Swansong?
>>724843487this literally looks like my 60 year old mom who had to dress as a witch for her corporate halloween party KEK
>>724843530I don't know I just want general audiences to tear apart the game
>>724843532Your mom looks fucking amazing for 60
>>72484361656% on Steam means split reception. Love and hate. Patches will shift that a bit, but it really is an unapologetic game. People love it for that.
>>724843664eh, not really. she mostly just cakes herself in makeup.
>>724843729>Love and hatehave you actually read any of the positive reviews? the ones that aren't blatant bots are just>yeah, the gameplay sucks and the story is stupid and its really short and its not an RPG...but there's vampires and stuff and I want to support the devs yay :)not to mention the innately positive bias of any review site, negative scores are reserved for blatantly buggy or scam projects
>>7248437295 cents deposited to your bank account. Actually I don't know British money, can you explain it for me?
>>724826216A return to porn
>>724843835WE ARE THE NEW PORN
>>724829482Ghouls and Thinbloods have infinite poise when they are supposed to be just very slightly above regular people
>>724830050Brought to you by a developer who only made walking simulators prior to this.
>>72482873410th Gen pleb with 3-4 points in physical attributes
>>724829127>The devs admitted that the opening scene with punching the mortal across the room was added because playtesters kept saying "No" when asked if they felt like a powerful vampire yet.thats actually really hilarious>well, we made you do something really strong in the opening cut scene. that should be enough to trick our players!
>>724830445At least play the game before posting your stupid bullshit
>>724832569>I think it's a testament to how rich and layered every character in Bloodlines 2 is.LOL
>>724843913The dev that INVENTED walking sims, get it right.
>>724835382No, it works the same as always, canonically the Nomad gets blood bound to all the useless clowns in Seattle
Stop saying Nomad, xer name is Phyre
>>724843996He's referring to the OG Fabien. The thinblood one. The plot of BL2 changed quite a bit. All those flashbacks were added later. The warehouse with the boc is called "ritual warehouse". It wasn't originally like it is now. Someone did a human sacrifice or maybe thinblood sacrifice in the warehouse. That all got removed.
>>724844158No, they give you blood in containers. Doesn't count unless drunk directly because v5 reasons.
I think Fabien was in love with Gideon and his deliciously plump ass.
>>724826216Ryong can't be saved!? Wasted my time.
>>724827643why is she all bloody?
I cried so hard when Fabien died bros, anyone else?
>>724844354Ryong dying pisses me off. We shoudl have been able to make decisions earlier that would save her. She deserved better.
>>724841241This game will not be beloved in 10 years. It isn't now. Bloodlines had fans as soon as it came out, it was just panned for the technical issues, and mostly importantly, being overshadowed by coming out at the same time as the biggest PC game to ever release until that point.
>>724844381She bathes in the blood of virgins.
>>724832962a mage?
>>724844381Interesting question. Maybe she was a naked final boss fight just like Safia.
>>724844416Tell yourself that, anon. Tell yourself that.
>>724844404She was the only one I actually liked.
>>724844354>>724844404Yeah this game is beyond stupid, the only real decision you take is embracing the black inquisition hag
>>724838427
>>724844416>Bloodlines had fans as soon as it came outYea, so does the sequel.
>>724843279spit is gross
>>724844502>>724844556what does the sequel do that other games don't do better? the first game still has some of the best character writing in the medium. the second game? even its biggest defenders can only go "yeah, it was alright" at the story and characters
>>724844502so emotional sobbing fr fr
>>724844556at like a tenth of the scale. most people said vtmb was good on release, just buggy. people are saying 2 is annoying to play and they want options to skip large sections of the game and that playing it is unpleasant lol.
>>724844353Hairy Tremere Girl deserved better, they should have kept the imposter angle
>>724844354Stereotype about killing an asian woman. I'm glad this shit failed.
>>724844721How do you know if she's hairy or not.
>>724844775She's a Tremere
>>724844416I can't wait for the shills to be fired and this game to be buried aha
>>724844687He's just coping and spamming shit because its his job. Its all he does whenever he loses control of the narrative in these threads. He also loves talking to himself.
>>724844715>they want options to skip large sections of the gamelike the warrens or chinatown or the entire ending?
>>724844859>He also loves talking to himself.i don't think he was doing that at the start. talking to himself so much seems like a consequence of nobody believing the bullshit so he has nobody to actually engage with.
>>724844452I wonder how much of the original story survived or if Hardsuit was going to try the same twist
You guys wish it was a paid shill and not one of the hambeasts who wrote for this gameIt's not like anyone's gonna hire her again, so she'll be here for awhile
>>724845008She can still be saved.Start a diet and a work out routine, she becomes thin again, finds a husband and lives a happy life.
>>724844920you keep trying to push people disliking the ending. why?
>>724844536Kino moments
>>724845097>you keepI don't, you just have this paranoid delusion that everyone is the same person. But yes, people have disliked the ending of VTMB for twenty years, I don't know why anyone would try to pretend now.
>>724845109It was cool at the time. It's gay that it forces the 'bad' ending even though I don't think it's that bad, it seems like I could have just ghouled her or something.
>>724844920nah, those still have cool things going on. the game balance is just thrown off and can be fixed. the way the unofficial patch "fixes" those areas isn't great, and it gets a lot of criticism for making the game worse, so it's not a great comparison.
>>724844556It has people shilling it and people defending it with the concession that it is mediocre. It could have been a lot worse, but it isn't going to be a cult classic. It has zero replayability or soul.
>>724845228>people are saying they want to skip large sections of game!>people are saying they want to skip large sections of game!>these two aren't the same, it's not a great comparisonOkay
>>724845148in my experience i found that 90% of the people I talk to who dislike the ending weren't even paying attention to the story in the first place. and most people I talk to are fine with the ending because they were actually paying attention.
I want Phyre to step on me.
>>724845281I'm glad that an imaginary statistic of people supposedly liked fighting infinite kuei jin waves because they paid attention to smiling jack's lines or something, but the prevailing opinion for decades has been that VTMB falls apart at the end.
>>724844721Vampires don't grow hair, they awaken every day the same as when they were embraced. So if she was hairy when she was embraced, yeah she'd have to shave every night.
>>724844687>even its biggest defenders can only go "yeah, it was alright" at the story and charactersIt's the best written vampire game by a pretty large margin, and literally nobody except die-hards thinks the first game has better writing and acting.
>>724826216God, the writing in this game is so fucking bad.
>>724845342the consensus is that the last half is not as good as the first half, not that it "falls apart at the end". most people are fine with the ending itself as its a pretty clever and thematic twist>>724845367even people who like the sequel are conceding that its not as good as the first game. what do you gain by peddling this bullshit
>>724845367I think there is a separation between narrative and presentation, and the second actually does have a better narrative, but it's on rails which is a mark against it. But the second has vastly better presentation. Voices, faces, music.
>>724845427>not that it "falls apart at the end"This is revisionist history.
>>724829879100% troon.
>>724845280i didn't say that? a lot of people don't want to skip anything in vtmb. the unofficial patch is frequently criticized for what it does, and i would criticize it for adding in major content skips.a significant number of people are saying playing the fabien sections is painful and there's no way to salvage that because it's broken to the core.
>>724845353>So if she was hairy when she was embraced>flapper nerdZero question.>she'd have to shave every night>busy autistic Tremere girlZero chance.
>>724829231>some people have lives>so they waste many times more time playing a fag game instead of skimming through a jewtube vid to absorb the faggotry and disgustOkay, make that make sense, becky
>>724826216>what copes the shill has come up in the last few daysShill campaign is over.
>>724845491>i didn't say that>>724844715>people are saying 2 is annoying to play and they want options to skip large sections of the game>>724845228>it's not a great comparison
>>724845435the voice acting is extremely mediocre, with some performances sounding like it was recorded in a bedroom. first game easily clears.faces are static and boring. first game has very distinctive stylized faces which are very emotive, perfect for the first person perspective. first game wins againmusic. do I even have to explain?so yeah. 3 for 3, you lost.
>>724845578you're not making any sense and you seem very dumb
>>724845592>the first game has better voice acting>uh actually the first game has better voice acting easily clears you lose!You are spiritually African.
I wish you could hang out at Atrium before the massacre.
>>724827643So I assume this means Elif did in fact evolve into Safia?
>>724845328Of course you do, you're a faggot that has to shill trash for money.
>>724845628I'm not making any sense by repeating your words back to you, and I seem very dumb to the sort of person that can't keep track of their statements or their meaning? Okay.
>>724845639>But the second has vastly better presentation. Voices, faces, music.
>>724845713I'll give you a distracted typo. I'm sure you still understand on some level that you're a retard, but technicality is all you have so it would be cruel to take it away.
>>724845684you're not making any sense because you think one modder inserting skips into the game means a large number of people wanted it, which may not be the case. a large number of people are clamoring for the option to skip fabien's sections. "i didn't say" a large number of people wanted to skip anything in vtmb. the unofficial patch for vtmb frequently does things that a lot of vtmb players respond with saying they don't like it.
>>724845771im a retard because you can't type?
>>724845427No the consensus is that Bloodlines 2's story improves in the third act and culminates in an emotionally satisfying farewell.Bloodlines 1, on the other hand, rapidky falls apart after Santa Monica.
>>724829370my fucking sides
>>724845812>No the consensuswhere?bro even game journalists think the story is just fine and its not as good as the first game. just give up. your discord private chat is not a consensus
>>724845812>and culminates in an emotionally satisfying farewell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTpgqqLyAs8
>>724845785>because you think [thing you don't think]This pattern is prominent among retards here. No, I think a large number of people wanted to skip both the warrens and the combat heavy ending of VTMB because I've been playing the game since release, and that has been the popular consensus for twenty years. >>724845795You're a retard for being unable to detect intended meaning from context clue, instead relying solely on technicality as you mindlessly stumble from one retardation to the next, yes.
>>724845859>unable to make argument>here is unrelated clip from dated show to vaguely insinuate disagreement insteadThat's not a good way to find nuts, Chirpy, get a real job, your parents are worried! Heckin based!
>>724845871>No, I think a large number of people wantedmore and more people are saying to stop using the plus patch. the basic patch has no skips. so the skips can't really be as important as you're making them out to be. while people are saying they won't even replay 2 if they have to go through the fabien sections again.
>>724845871so i'm a retard because you can't type. fucking idiot.
>>724826216I like Fabien's parts and Fabien's parts only. Where were all the fun side quests like killing zombies at a graveyard? I can understand having just one main map, I didn't mind that at all, but why the fuck didn't they have any setpiece missions outside the main map like griffith observatory or heck the fucking spooky hospital thing leaked from the HSL build, even though the mission didn't even look good? I thought they would have that mission since why not, it's not part of the main map, just go there with a loading screen?Why are all the side missions just Skyrim radiant quests -> go here beat up ghouls. >>724827358The game isn't fun at all so I played it for 10 hours in the first two days and haven't opened it since, yet. Like it's not even "bad" in the literal meaning. It's just mid and I don't feel urgency to finish it.
>>724845935u mad
>>724845947It has nothing to do with the patch. People hated the ending of VTMB and the warrens before anyone knew who wesp was. You aren't aware of this because you're young and dumb, but I was there. I don't know what else to tell you, you can either accept it or you can be wrong.>>724845973Yes, you're a retard for being unable to grasp intended meaning from context clues. I believe we already covered this. I guess you could say that you needed this repeated to you is further evidence that "your" a retard. There, it's another typo to help you form an argument around.
>>724845986>can't communicate like a person>begins communicating like a middle school street blackVery common. Soon he'll repeat it a dozen times.
>>724846032so i'm a retard because i could not magically guess that you make a typo that completely changed the meaning of your sentence? why don't you be a man for once and admit to your mistakes? fucking idiot.
>>724846032i played vtmb soon after release and liked the sewers and didn't understand why people hated them so much later. during my first playthrough the only thing i really had an issue with was ming having so much health lol. nothing made me say "i will not replay this game because a large portion of it is awful" like people are saying with fabien.
>>724846072mad
>>724846090>oh so i'm a retard because [unchanged circumstance that makes you a retard]How many times do you need to read it? >>724846103>"most people didn't like x">"well actually I liked x!"Hmm, what's that a sign of again?
>>724844404Me too. I liked how she was cool with it when I embraced the hag niggress. Practical. Not heavy-handed or imperious like Lou. A businesswoman who understands both how to make a deal, and the value of making them. She didn't even do anything specific to deserve it (besides being the 1%), and we don't get to watch Lou burn either.>>724844517>only real decision you takeSomehow I ended up as sheriff to Katsumi and I don't understand why. Because I didn't tell Lou to her face I wanted to be Prince? Because I didn't want to kill Katsumi because the only wrong she did me was to kind of be a cunt? Because I waffled on not leaving the city?Just because I was willing to be Ryong's sheriff and not rock the boat doesn't mean I'm willing to be sheriff for an upstart bitch who's been nothing but rude to me even though I gave her Benny, especially after basically everyone in the court died except that zesty nossy faggot. Like surely I outrank that scarred bitch after the endgame.Wait, should I have let the hag niggress die of AIDS? She'd (or her hunters if you have to kill her) probably have killed all those Anarch scum on her way out. Damn, here I was playing Art of War trying to make enemies into allies and I fucking played myself, is that what happened?
>>724846190yes, you are an idiot. maybe next time you should read what you write before you post it, and don't whine like a bitch when people respond to the words you typed.
>>724846262>and don't whine like a bitchKinda like you're doing?
>>724846283>no ulol
>>724846283no, more like this >>724845639
>>724846235>Somehow I ended up as sheriff to Katsumi and I don't understand whyThe decisions that feed into the ending aren't handled very well at all. Not killing Katsumi because I literally just watched Lou dominate the Prince into ordering the hit doesn't mean I'm an anarch now. Very gay.
>>724846305>>724846326Spiritually African you remain I see.
>>724846190>Hmm, what's that a sign of again?selective bias? told you i liked it, people don't seem that interested in the skips, more and more people are wanting to play the game without them. but i guess it helps your argument against that large portions of vtmb2 are irredeemably crap for a large number of people to the point where days after release they're already saying they'll give you an option to skip large portions of the game if you ignore that.
Wish it was a requiem game. Mostly because I'm curious about Requiem.
everyone ITT is employed by paradox
>>724846412I think refusing to take responsibility for mistakes and blaming others for your own incompetence is much more spiritually African, personally.
>>724846419Their version of Hunter was much, much better, and that's why they've tried to erase the imbued and bring that over, the SI is basically just VCU and Valkyrie merged together. Everything else was worse, there's a reason they went back.
>>724846412>say "no u">point out you said "no u">wow you're africanyou are very smart
>>724846462Yes, I'm sure you think all sorts of retarded stuff like that.
>>724846469Demon: The descent was pretty sick but it also feels like it was never really intended to be part of WoD.
>>724846498Compared to the average /v/groe, yes. Even with infinite time to think and compose you can't help but communicate like a hood nog. You're less than.
>>724846563>Even with infinite time to think and composei don't think anything you post is worth that
>>724846563I don't think someone who can't even type correctly should be criticizing others for the contents of their posts
>>724846613>misunderstands completelyLord you gave them brains and yet they are retarded.>>724846638"contents" could arguably be swapped for the uncountable "content" (as in "the content of their posts") for a more modern, idiomatic feel when referring to the substance of posts. But don't be discouraged, keep going, you can almost communicate like a real person.
>>724846749now keep in mind you are doing this cute nitpicking thing when the "typo" in question completely changed the meaning of your post. fucking idiot indeed.
>>724846749>everyone is dumb and misunderstands me>pedantic rambling
>>724846469For me it's Hunters Hunted>Vigil>Reckoning.
>>724846852All this anger because you don't know what context clues are. I didn't give you that single dot in intelligence, complain to God if you have a problem with it, I'm just a bystander.>>724846876>everyone is dumb>/v/Yes, that's right.
>>724846894Reckoning always seemed so stupid to me, the whole fantasy is human vs supernatural so they immediately make you supernatural too. Stupid.
>>724846910the context clues of somehow discerning you meant the complete opposite of what you typed? you act like a child. unwilling to admit to mistakes, starts bitching when people don't automatically bend to your will. and now with the passive aggressiveness and pathetic attempts to try and "own" me. what an unlikable faggot you are
>>724847035>a basic statement contrasting one game with another>same game in both slots>"how, how could I have known!?"Don't forget your lip plate, Akajimbo.
>>724847086again, it goes back to blaming me because you cannot type. and instead of owning your mistakes and apologizing like a man, you immediately entered into snarky bitch mode. you act like a 16 year old and honestly, considering the rest of you replies, you probably are one.
>>724847183>the rest of you replies>you repliesWhat strange foreign language is this? Some kind of African gibberish near as I can tell.
>>724847241this anonymous is seething
>>724847241ah, so you are paying attention. now, does that typo completely change the meaning of my sentence like your typo did? please take a deep breath and try not to resort to instant snarky bitchiness for once.
>>724847296>does that typo completely change the meaning of my sentenceIndeed it strips it from meaning, I can't possibly use context clues to identify the intended meaning of your statement and engage honestly with the idea, I can only surmise that as your thoughts and IQ are African so too is your language.
>>724847417so do you legitimately not recognize your mistake or are you simply doubling down for the sake of "winning" the argument? I see you haven't abandoned the underage snark either.
it's gaming time
>>724847516Kill yourself, shill
>>724847468I've won the argument long ago, no scare quotes required. Now I'm just watching you flail around. Like I said, you're less than. I'm the elder, you're the fledgling. Wake up vampire we've got a city to burn...with Phyre.
>>724847546and now we advance to the ironic detachment phase. what else is there to say? I hope you don't act like this in college at least.
vam
>>724847606>what else is there to say?You could apologize for a start.
>>724847749for what? if anyone should apologize, it's you. you made a blatant mistake, refused to take responsibility for it, and then proceeded to act like a passive aggressive prick when your claims were challenged. why do you deserve anything from me?
>>724847812>why do you deserve anything from me?he loves you... he just can't say it
>>724847812>why do you deserve anything from me?Because I'm better than you, and yet I've given you my time to try and educate you about context clues, and all you've done is whine and complain about your own functional illiteracy.
So Fabien is the quirky chungus template Malkavian now right?
>>724847887He's a Brujah
>>724847516They haven't promised beards, but are looking at adding them.
>>724847887no, too many people hate fabien because his gameplay sections are ass. people are going to skip his sections and he'll be forgotten.
>>724847850I mean, by this point its obvious he's underage, this is how middle schoolers with a crush talk. but i'm a thirty year old man so now its actually quite disturbing.
>>724847516>hands and shoulders of a teenage girllel
>>724826216>Having a blast!The only blast you'll get is blasting your head off with a shotgun out of regret for buying such a shitty fucking game.I'd rather grate my balls than to play this game.
>replying to his own cellphonelol
>>724833003Party system?
>>724844556The sequel has fans???
>>724845592>the voice acting is extremely mediocre, with some performances sounding like it was recorded in a bedroomI also haven't seen anyone else point out how fucking awful the accents are. Half the damn cast are clearly English people pretending to be American, with awful pronunciation, and the rest are just straight-up European accents. In one of the whitest major cities in America.
>>724848361I wonder if every vampire in Seattle might not have been embraced in Seattle within the last ten years
>>724848361they made the protagonist a turk or whatever solely so they could give her an annoying accent, and its not even a good or accurate accent. its the same stock vaguely ethnic accent used by every bad video game these days
I can't believe the shill is still doing it, he has to be working for free at this point.
>>724847990It's so fucking obvious they started with the female model and barely made changes to fit the male one. Clothes have indentations for the breasts that don't exist on the male Phyre, and his proportions are completely fucked. It's like a FtM tranny, a female skeleton pretending to be a man.
>>724848508All the real ones are playing a lesbian Phyre anyways
>>724848401Yeah, sorry, but I'm not convinced this was a deliberate choice. It sounds stupid. It's plain botched voice directing:https://files.catbox.moe/6v7xjm.webm
>>724848937>carn't
>>724848401yeah and bet of night sounded flat because it's cool and detached or something and not just because the VA wasn't good
>>724848937ah the consequences of getting a bong that can't do any american accent.
>>724849921>>724849048If it wasn't for the subtitles, I don't think I would have understood what the fuck she slurred at the end there.>becuz their sires carnt-she-thur-teeth
>>724848937Yeah they took the first take of everyone
>>724844502I don't understand why he had to die at this specific moment, could he just peace out and kill himself whenever he wanted but just wanted to wait untill he found out the source of the curse and who the rebar killer was?
What were they THINKING?
>>724851128The second TCR decided to put two consciousnesses in the MC's body, they also decided that they don't need to worry about the lore at all. So he saves Phyre from the sun "because it would make for a good moment" and then dies "because it would make for a good moment"
>>724851186Isn't this a masquerade violation.
>>724848361For me, the absolute worst performance is actually Safia. The voice actress feels as if she had to choose between giving an emotional performance the role requires of maintaining her stupid Transilvanian accent, because she can't do both at once. So, we are getting this weird, stilted performance by a very confused VO instead.
>>724851286Why did you play this shit?
>>724844973One of the hardsuit devs said nothing remained of the original story
>>724851349I actually watched it on youtube
>>724851286For Safia specifically, I can easily imagine that the VA wasn't skilled enough to act how they wanted. She pretends to do a code switch at the end where she reveals herself to be eeeeviiiilllllll but can't pull it off
>>724851128>I don't understand why he had to die at this specific momentBecause he'd been gradually fading for a while, but he gave everything he had left to help Phyre survive the sun. The candle that burns at both ends and all that stuff.
>>724851286>The voice actress feels as if she had to choose between giving an emotional performance the role requires of maintaining her stupid Transilvanian accentIs Safia actually putting on an accent, though?
>>724851364>One of the hardsuit devs said nothing remained of the original storyBoth Mitsoda and Pinchbeck have said that the OG story was scrapped, but I suspect traces remain.
>>724851682>Is Safia actually putting on an accent, though?Yes. Just because her VA has a vaguely foreign name doesn't mean shit if they moved to England when she was a kidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HXWU0409s
>>724851682yes.www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HXWU0409sThis is her actresses speaking voice.
>>724851821>>724851783Beat you by over a minute, get owned :^)Also she's a qtπ
>>724851892
>>724851783>>724851821Eh, I find a lot of these actors actually have two main speaking voices. Their "ethnic" one and the British accent one they put on when trying to come across as less ethnic.
>>724851424Her going 180 in personality really irked me, because it's such a fucking lazy cliche.The story they were going for would be much more efficient if she genuinely was this nice and sweet dork she was presenting herself as, she just happened to have a goal that fundamentally opposes yours and was led to commit some serious atrocities for what in her mind is a greater good. Because the game really really wants you to feel some sympathy for her, but I really can't be bothered to give a fuck, because she's just a moustache-twirling villain in the end.
>>724852228Sabbat, by human standards, are mustache twirling villains.
>>724852326But it was the writer's choice to make her Sabbat. For no goddamn reason.
>>724852228Oh yeah I'm not saying the writing wasn't dogshit on top of that, but she specifically does an impression of herself, something like ironically saying "ooooh phyre my love" and she just sounds like she always does. Thus, the VA not being skilled enough to pull off the code switch
>>724852383>>724852326I thought the whole point was that she wasn't really Sabbat, she just used them cause she wanted to destroy SeattleActually, I dunno what her plan was with the Sabbat if the whole Gideon thing had worked, I guess give him the new body and then flee while the city burns?
>>724852228>Her going 180 in personality really irked me, because it's such a fucking lazy cliche.It's not a 180. Safia is "off" pretty much from the start, and she gives off huge red flags at major plot beats. She pretty much falls apart when you kill The Gardener.>The story they were going for would be much more efficient if she genuinely was this nice and sweet dork she was presenting herself as, she just happened to have a goal that fundamentally opposes yours and was led to commit some serious atrocities for what in her mind is a greater good. Because the game really really wants you to feel some sympathy for her, but I really can't be bothered to give a fuck, because she's just a moustache-twirling villain in the end.Something to understand about Bloodlines 2 is that Safia and Fabien are not really that different. They both did what they thought was necessary. The difference is that Fabien gets to hide behind his aww-shucks manufactured personality while he goes around town ripping people's heads off, but Safia has to retreat into her own delusions. Where Fabien is a monster that pretends to be an angel, Safia is a sad angel pretending to be a monster because she doesn't know what else to do. She's mad. Fabien is mad. Lou, in her own way, is mad.The tragedy of Safia is that when she's taking to you at the end she's lying to herself and to you.
>>724852465>Safia is "off" pretty much from the start, and she gives off huge red flags at major plot beatsThat's literally what he just complained about, you retarded fucking shillnigger. The cliche of the villain pretending to be sweet and dorky (and obviously pretending, because these devs can't into subtlety), rather than GENUINELY being sweet and dorky while having the same goals
>>724852440She initially defected to the sabbat out of self interest to burn out the Seattle camerila and not out of shared ideology or a change of heart but ended up drinking the kool-aid while she was there.
>>724828734All you fight are a bunch of Ghouls, Hunter and a few "elite" Thinblood. You only fight like a handful of vampires, the strongest of them are basically an amped up barely ancilla.So really, you don't feel like an Elder at all.
>>724848173If you hit enough combos without being hit, a hidden meter is filled that once full, every NPC on the screen starts to dance. It's a really integral system that most people don't seem to know about.
>>724852537>500 yearsPhyre is 400 so not an elder by this definition. I think they're using 300 years as a cutoff here
>>724826216>sequel in name only>why are the fans of the first one complaining, because I'm having such a blast playing itI guess the current baiting mate game is to play it completely straight
>>724852440She says she used Sabbat to achieve her goal in one sentence only to reveal herself as a Sabbat fangirl in the other and she just keeps contraducting herself. Her plan makes no sense, and I can only assume she's been actually driven howling mad by her Malkavisn boyfriend, but that's just me using headcanon to patch up plotholes.But it would in fact be a good plot twist if it were to turn out that Safia in the end was just a convenient tool for Gideon so he can have his revenge. And if that was an RPG it could've been a good argument to make Safia stand down.
>>724852515No, you've got it backwards. Safia really is a sweet kind girl that is relentlessly larping as this evil mastermind so much she bought it into being.Fabien, on the other hand, is a sociopathic monster using everyone around him while projecting this image of being a good guy. He is not a good guy. The court doesn't keep him around because he's a good guy. They keep him around because he has no conscience and is completely delusional. He has no issues carrying out the modern day rebar killings because that is who he really is. It's all framed as a necessary evil, but no, that is who Fabien is.
>>724852680Gideon deserves everything that happened to him and taking revenge would be retarded>oh shit the Prince has killed all her rivals (something every Prince does)? I WILL GO TALK TO HER IN PRIVATE
>>724845367Best written? Even in context of V5 it doesn't make sense. Lou has been a Prince since she was like a few year old Fledgeling. Camarilla didn't even do shit even though it is suppose to be one of the frontiers against Sabbat and Sabbat secretly controlled the city for decades. You are telling me no Elder actually came and took control of this weak ass place? Be it from Camarilla or Sabbat?
>>724852713>Safia really is a sweet kind girlShe isn't, she's pretending. Didn't read the rest of your shill post, shut the fuck up.
>>724828087Not him but I did all side quests and it took me 20 hours
>>724852786How? Do you skip through dialogue? Took me 25.8 hours and I did about 3 sidequests before realizing they're all dogshit and never touching them again
>>724831074Honestly it's based for the faggot who almost died of aids to be an ugly monstrosity
>>724832080>oh dude le just parryNo. Because the parry input is dodging into the attack so if you miss it you end up past the enemy and have to reacquire him with 70 FOV. Fuck that shitLast fight I tried to parry was Benny and it doesn't even work on half his attacks
>>724852913Seriously, the parry system is fucked. The game will randomly slow down to give you a chance to parry, other times it won't.
>>724852985I'm a parryslop enjoyer, it takes some effort to make a parry system so broken (especially in a game without stamina) that I don't use it
>>724839668in both playthroughs i smashed this granny
>>724852771Yeah. If anything, the arrival of Phyre should've had the whole Seattle court scrambling, because HOLY SHIT A 400 YEAR OF VAMPIRE IS HERE.And Lou just keeps treating him like he's her personal errand boy, while completely missing the fact that Prince or no, this fucker can just rip your head off clean if he feels as if you are annoying him. Any potential archon sent to investigate would understand, because not respecting your elders is just rude.
I pirated it. It gave me something to do for a few days. Very mediocre to bad. Every character of import was a woman or fag. Zero replayabilty.
>>724829757>walks around in public view>everyone just thinks he’s a disgusting faggot instead of a vampire
>>724853389That's something I never understood even in 1 tbd (to be desu)If you see a nossie on the street you'd just think he is wearing makeup for a monster movie or something, I never got why it would violaete the masqueradeI guess they probably cause unnatural revulsion on top of just being ugly
>>724852713Fabien doesn't have the Potence to pull off those killings. They just didn't happen, no other NPC mentions they happen, they aren't referred to in the world outside of his sections. It was all a dream.
>>724853536Damn I just realized that the flashbacks caused exactly what I thought would happen: I can't remember for shit which victims even got killed in the modern dayOne of them was the chick who thought she was a vampire, one of them was Danny. Who would kill those two? Did we ever find out who sent the chick to "lord fabien"?I'm honestly glad I'm already forgetting major story details, another month and I won't have this garbage taking up any brainspace anymore
>>724853650>Did we ever find out who sent the chick to "lord fabien"?The only person likely to have done it was Fabien himself. Malks have access to Dominate. Probably it was to kick off the next round of discovering Campbell was Santiago.
>>724833543And it had SOVL and is still loved over 20 years laterThis slop is already forgotten
>>724853710>The only person likely to have done it was Fabien himselfWhy the fuck are you so in love with Fabien, shill? He didn't do shit
>>724852817It took me precisely 20.5h according to Steam. Not skip so much as just read the dialogue without waiting for the whole cutscene
>>724853869Crazy how much time that saves
>>724853439>I never got why it would violaete the masqueradeBecause the game's Masquerade system isn't that nuanced and they just thought it would be s cool gimmick. But on tabletop it's literally up to your ST if a Nosferatu breaks the Masquerade or not, because IIRC VtM: Revised states that modern day people are so "rational" that Tzimisce can show up before them in his Chiropteran Marauder form and they would think someone's shooting a movie.In the Dark Ages, though... ho, boy. Dark Ages in general is a great reversal of VtM's sentiments.
>>724852817>>724853869Also ye most of the sidequests are dogshit but I enjoyed the Banu Haqim ones. I mostly did them cause they give you a lot of XP so I could unlock abilities faster
>>724853795Fabien saved my dog.
>>724852772>She isn't, she's pretending.She's lying. The monster is the mask, so to speak.
>>724844502Like yourself try to tell us that it's not a total waste of time, money and storage?Bloodlines 2 does objectively everything worse than the 1st. Only a shill or someone who didn't played the first said otherwise. The only better thing are the graphics, yet the artstyle is so bad, it takes the point away from BL2.Shit game won't be remembered in 2 months but keep on coping that some patches will fix this steaming pile of lefty propaganda and Homo fantasies.
Very prelim Benny DLC stuff from the files.
>>724854107Reminder, you are only so mad because you are a sheep. You follow online trends. Your opinions and beliefs are informed. Baaa baaa
>>724854107>graphicsYet somehow they managed to have worse facial animations than 1, kek
>>724854173>contustion site>consturction site
>>724854173The DLCs are such bad ideas. No one after playing this game is thinking, man I really wonder what the first and second boss fights got up to. I'd really like to play as then for 1.5 hours and $15.
>>724854103I would actually like to see Safia's statsheet. Or has V5 removed that Demeanor/Nature thing? That shit was fun.
>>724853439Depends on the nossie to be fair.Some you could pass just thinking they're some fucked up burn victim or have a degerative disease.Then there's dudes like this example who cannot really be considered anything but a monster.Of course masquerade breach just means humans catching on to vampires being real. If this dude was to wander around on Halloween or somewhere "spooky" themed he'd probably be fine except for people already in the know but that's a different problem.
>>724854212My favorite thing is that they promised LE NEW WAYS TO APPROACH COMBAT which just makes me think "why wasn't this in the game so you could have different builds?"
>>724854265>NEW WAYS TO APPROACH COMBATAnd you know all this means is a single new ability tree that cannot be back ported into the main game.
The code comment on the final line. "FINSR_800_CemilePostBoss.Intro.23#": { "Text": { "Namespace": "Ink_FINSR_800_CemilePostBoss", "Key": "2acc3a23b93c66d9d0662ad2b4c2dee9", "SourceString": "My... love...", "LocalizedString": "My... love..." }, "Comment": "VO: Sad, longing, so weak it's almost a whisper on the breeze - NO LIPSYNC, HEARD IN PHYRE'S HEAD, LIKE FABIEN. ^Cine: Eventually she crumbles into dust. Phyre is left alone on the rooftop with only dust in her open palm. Despite everything, she can't bring herself to feel any sense of triumph. She examines her arms and hands - the mark has gone.", "CharacterTag": { "TagName": "Narrative.Character.Main.Cemile" },
>>724854327Okay, so that's very interesting. Safia (Cemile, technically) was meant to turn to dust. I wonder why they changed that?
Stop samefagging your shitty cut content lore, no one cares
>>724854365fucking kill yourself already, nobody gives a shit about your "characters"
So what clans can you play in game?
>>724854482Lasombra, Brujah, Assamite/Banu Haquim, Toreador, Ventrue, Tremre.
>>724854482Ventrue, Toreador, Lasombra, Banu Haqim, Gangrel, TremereThe only difference between clans is their passive, which barely matters. You can buy any clan's disciplines and mix & match them freely. There are no story consequences in any way to any of the clans.Do not play this game. It is not worth your time
>>724854365Because Phyre bridal carrying her body makes for a more striking image. That's all there is to it.
>>724854482twink type 1, troon type 2
>>724854550>>724854536Thanks, and I wasn't gonna buy the game yet. Got other games I wanna play.
>No guns allowed melee only>no playable gangrelwhat the fuck were they smoking.
>>724854603>yetDo not buy this shit. As I said it's not worth your time, but if you value your time so little that you still wanna experience it, just pirate it. Or watch a playthrough on youtube
>>724851186>Bet of Night>Old taglineEverything in this feels like a souless skinsuit
>>724854638Time is mine to waste. I'll probably get it on sale.
>>724854658I wish that was the case, barely any part of the game even pretends to be like 1
I just want to play as a Tzimisce.
>>724854708have a blast
>>724854742Tzimisce KSP style game but instead of building rockets to go to other planets it's making flesh abominations that don't immediately shit the bed.
>>724854860
>>724854742Too based to actually be made
>>724854860>Day 243>I turned the subject's spine upside down>it serves no tactical purpose, but it looks cool>the subject keeps screaming>why does the subject keep screaming?>it makes the design useless at stealth
>>724854742i think an underutilized aspect of the setting is how old lots of vampires really are. like most serious vamps are from the 1500s at least.imagine how cool it would be running into a dude with a super archaic way of speaking, with an ancient phenotype. but he dresses normally to blend in. i think that would be a really interesting moment that shows what makes this world unique
>>724854365Also, Safia is too young to turn to dust. It would make sense for Cemile, though.
>>724828161>walk in the park with your vampire waifu.There are no waifus though. The main one is a bait and switch retarded plot twist. Well, if you count mrs. Thorn...>>724827553Banu Haqim + all clan passives unlockedStart with Possession (which recharges with Toreador passive) on the big guysThen after Cauldron of Blood to group the remaining enemies upDash to them and use Bladed HandPunch the restI usually end the fights with full HP and all abilities up, just as i started them. OR just use Unseen Aura and chain feed/kill on every enemy starting with the weak ones, that works too. You can usually end the encounter before it runs out.
>>724855209>which recharges with Toreador passiveOnce I got that I just stayed in cover letting it recharge and making dudes fight each other with posssessionShit game btw
>>724855063It's because most of the time, all your adventures happen in USA, because as you know, USA is a center of the universe. And obviously, you won't have that many elder vampires living in the US. To the point Beckett or Aisling are considered "old". All the really old vampires live in Europe and beyond.I recently led the V20 campaign that took place in 90's Poland. Specifically because it's a giant white spot on the VtM map, so I was allowed to do whatever. And it was fun to see the players interacting with a vampiric court that remembers the good old Middle Ages days.
>>724855181I am pretty sure after 100 years your body turns to dust. Because apparently it is supposed to revert to the form your body would have after that time. I say apparently, because I assume this is V5 retcon, because I don't think it was a rule in previous editions.
>>724855437Wait I thought it was always a "time catches up with your body" thingt. doesn't know anything about the lore
>>724855451Maybe, I genuinely don't remember that being a rule in Revised and V20, but it might just be my memory failing me.Also, leaving behind a body is just asking for a Masquerade breach.
>>724855341Yeah, watching enemies fight each other from the shadows was kinda cool.>Shit game btwOnly if you're a retard that can't see things objectively. It's serviceable 6/10 game, not great, but not that bad either. The name Bloodlines 2 drags it down and makes people retarded, which is not surprising, because it is retarded to stick to that name.
>>724855676No, it's shit even without any association with 1Shouldn't have sold it as an RPG. It would be a 6/10 if they cut out every single Fabien segment. As it stands, it's a 3 at bestHaving "it has potential but is insanely boring" combat is not enough to guarantee a 6/10
>>724854742>>724855063The shapeshifting would be too complex to put into a game like VTMB2. The only way it would work for something like that is a CRPG game like Disco Elysium
>>724855732>CRPG game
>>724855772RIP in Peace at my idiocy
>>724855732I was thinking that Viccisitude might work similar to how Cyberware works in Cyberpunk 2.0. You get a bunch of fun upgrades and abilities depending on your Discipline level and bloodpoints and told to go to town with builds. And then you get to customize your Tzim visually, like with Daniel in Warhammer 3.
>>724855643Everyone bursting into hot ash was only a Bloodlines thing bc it looked cool.
>>724855915Also probably a good way to make it so enemies don't have to react to bodies
>>724855730>As it stands, it's a 3 at bestNah, that's not honest. There are no game breaking bugs, at least i didn't encounter one in my playthrough. The visuals are good, the music is okay, the combat is okay, the story is okay. It is an OKAY game, no more, no less. Rating it below 5/10 is dishonest. It is decently made in all regards. Not great, but mediocre at least. Or you're just too young and inexperienced in video games to know really BAD games that could be rated below 5.
>>724855732Clearly you'd only get one Protean skill, and that's a clawed hand that kills one enemy. Maybe your 4th skill is also Protean with an area of effect attack and there's a big fog/darkness effect with the hint of bat wings (too lazy to make a new model) to imply you shape-shifted in your attack.
>>724856010How incredibly disingenuous. You complain about the overinflated score scale but then say no game can be rated lower than a 5 without gamebreaking bugsIt is a bad game by all metrics
>>724856023>fun clans if they were made by VTMB2 devsNow this is a direction of shitposting I can get behind, based
>>724855915I guess it had more to do with being easier to program. Because instead of having millions of lines of code that track the individual vampires (because how else the game should know if this vampire is old enough to turn into dust, but this other one isn't?), they went zero-sum and every vampire turns into dust, end of story.Still, Safia should've had turned to dust anyway, because she's at least a 100+ old vampire.
>>724856235>Because instead of having millions of lines of code that track the individual vampires (because how else the game should know if this vampire is old enough to turn into dust, but this other one isn't?),Please never speak authoritatively about any aspect of programming again. You are clearly not qualified
>>724856085>It is a bad game by all metricsNo, it isn't. You're dishonest.
>>724856313Cool. Keep being angry about review scales and then rating shit games as 5/10 anyway "because I liked the music"
1-10 rating is a meme anyway>how fun was the combat?I had fun exactly once out of 25 hours of game>should you buy this?No>should you play this at all?Fuck no>will I ever replay itNope
>>724856359Keep being dishonest and rating mediocre but okay games as "0/10 lmaoo shieet" because you don't know any better, like an asinine ape who can only have fun by shitting on things.
>>724856023Come to think of it, imagine how fun the Gangrel gameplay could've been if someone actually cared.>use Animalism to summon animals as a distraction/as meatshields against enemies>use Animalist to mindfuck other vampires into Frenzy>use Animalism to finally possess the animal and use it for stealth, like in Dishonored>use Protean Mist Form to pass through to various vents or grates or Earth Meld as a free get out of jail free card hiding spot.VtM systems are designed for immersive sim shenanigans.
>>724856492>1-10 rating is a meme anywayThat's a weak cope. If you can't objectively and honestly rate something you spend your time on on multiple metrics, that means you're a low IQ NPC ape.
>>724856501>0/10I rated it as 3/10. You accidentally admitted that you see any rating below 5/10 as equivalent to 0/10. You therefore conceded the argument by proving that it is in fact you who strictly adheres to the inflated review scale.Have a good day
>>724856584>I rated it as 3/10Now go and look up games that universally rated as 3/10 and tell yourself honestly that the quality that they're made on is on the level of BL2. I know you won't ever admit it and will continue to cope and lie to yourself to keep up your facade.
>complains about how reviews rate all games too highly>"if you look at all the games that review lowly, they're usually much worse, meaning VTMB2 should be rated highly!"Oh he was just baiting all along, I see
Has Bloodlines 2 tanked the future for any other VtM games? Something other than visual novels would be appreciated.
>>724857049Were there real games other than VTMB and VTMR in the past?
>>724857049Nah, we're good. Unless Paradox stops using V5 as a crutch.>>724857093No.
>>724857049The time of OWoD is over.It's time for CoD games now.
>>724857282RAMIREZ, UPHOLD THE MASQUERADE
>>724857282explain to a newb the difference between world of darkness and chronicles of darkness. Is it the same universe just with a different rule set?
>>724857282Naw the entire WoD is tainted and can never be recoveredThe time for FATAL games is now
>>724857358It's a seperate, rebooted setting. Imagine Age of Sigmar to Warhammer Fantasy.
been enjoying it so far, Can wait to show off the new stuffhttps://youtu.be/lPsQ6gZH-6s
>>724857358A reboot/different interpretations.The broad strokes are mostly the same, vampires and vampires, werewolves are werewolves but the actual details,groups, politics and lore are drastically different.Vampire for instance, in OWoDs The masqurade it is a fact that they are descended from Caine. In The Requiem no one really knows the origin of the vampires since sleeping through the ages has all the elders essentially getting temporary dementia so the origins and dealings of their species is lost to time and they find themselves in this limbo state of never really being able to progress since between the need to hide and everyone forgetting they can't actually build strong relatively long lasting foundations.
>>724836425>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVo_KKW_a5Ylol, wtf
I wonder how many recycled things there are.https://youtu.be/6xRCZePzzqM?si=sNlD8Bo2KZDlgdhW&t=387Tolly used to be Samuel
>>724826216Dogshit "sequel".Dogshit "rpg".Dogshit "threrad".Who are you even trying to trick into buying this when it's not even worth pirating?
>>724830230>pretty decentNothing about those numbers are "pretty decent".
>>724857995I wonder what the overall budget was, including the dev hell cancelled version
>>724857979thanks for the bump>>724857049tfw no real julia game
>>724857979What's a "threrad"?
>>724857049Of games with a budget, I would say so.
>>724858140Given that HSL is located in Seattle themselves... Holy moly, the whole budget is a touch on the extreme side.
>>724858140Tens of millions. Paradox had written it off. Should be in their quarterly report at that time.
>>724858763Public companies aren't required to declare their budget for every project or anything, they just have to declare their overall EBIT and shit
>>724851215This. Absurd handwave for the sake of the narrative.
So, if Phyre has been made a Sheriff, but the Prince still orders Tolly to stake Phyre if he breaches the Masquerade, why haven't the Prince made Tolly Sheriff in the first place, if he does Sheriff's job anyway?
>>724854212It's an horrific decision and I bet it's Paradox being cunts again and trying to nickel & dime cusomters.Not worth it. Benny disappears and has no nuance outside of implied weird homoerotic bullshit with Max, another nothing character that deserves death. Ysabella is a loon. Who cares if these two get DLC? The game sucks; don't bother.
>>724860335because tolly likes to punch himself in the dick and the prince enjoys watching
