I hope they double down on the story shit, I want Wilds to realize its true shitkino potential.

I hope they add a map that doesn't suck ass. The first two regions are okay and the rest are trash. Not a single good one.

>>724834352
if focus mode isnt removed i dont care

>>724834785
Why does focus mode trigger people so hard?

>>724834883
becuase its a shit mechanic that robs the player of satisfaction

>>724834352
next gimmick will be even worse performance, visuals and a more unfinished game overall.

>>724834352
Next gimmick will be Clucth Claw, again. They've already teased that with the underwater section for Laggy.

>>724834352
i "play" wilds to alma and that's it

>>724834352
bitch looks like she's going to talk about her Che Guevera thesis.

>>724834883
I don't mind it, but I understand why others don't. It, somewhat ironically, makes the game too streamlined. It eliminates any need to pay attention to how you're positioned when you attack because you can just snap to the proper direction. It also forces the devs back into the trap of having to account for increased player capability, making the monsters faster, a bit more spastic, and stronger, even if it undermines the original conceit of MH as a game, which was slower, methodical, high-committal attacks.

So I get it. It's not leaving, though.

>>724835001
>>724835203
All I see it do is make you able to turn faster, people say it magically teleports you to the monsters' largest wound without question and fail but it never does it for me. The only weapon I use it for is HBG because it's needed to aim properly and that doesn't bother me at all.

>>724835423
Focus mode for bowguns is literally just manual aim which was already in the previous games.

>>724835423
It just allows you to ignore taking the Hunter's orientation into account. Before, you had to properly orient yourself with your weapon to direct its attack, while at the same time respecting all other considerations of positioning.
Now? You just hold Focus and your Hunter will change direction without any real stress. Some Focus attacks will extend the animation and make it easier to hit the monster, lessening the effecting of proper positioning even further. This is very evident on a lot of GS and some GL attacks, but it's present on everything to some extent.
It won't teleport you to wounds though, that's nonsense.

>>724835601
>It won't teleport you to wounds though, that's nonsense.
/mhg/ has bee screaming this since the game came out.
>Before, you had to properly orient yourself with your weapon to direct its attack, while at the same time respecting all other considerations of positioning.
Now? You just hold Focus and your Hunter will change direction without any real stress
So instead of taking ten seconds to run in a circle to turn you twist in place like any sane person would.

>>724835740
That's an absurd argument. It's a video game, with video game limitations. We're fighting giant, fire-breathing dragons and utilizing weapons far larger than any normal human could wield.
Also, have you ever tried twisting with something huge and heavy as fuck? It's a good way to destroy your back. There's a reason most safety considerations tell you to never twist while lifting. Now try it while fighting a dragon.

>>724834352
>That pic
Unless we're getting G-Rank armor, I doubt it. My set up is currently unkillable, so why would I change anything?

>>724835860
It's a video game, there's no weight to break someone's back. And I prefer faster turning to my Hunter doing a Super Mario 64 and running in a semicircle to change the direction he's looking, especially because the monsters snap turn and instantly change direction all the time.

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>>724834465
D
o a little Iceborne timeskip so Nata becomes the NPC duel blade hunter you can summon for quests. Wouldn't redeem his stupid jeet ass but it soften things a little.

>>724836064
>doing a Super Mario 64 and running in a semicircle
?
This was never a thing in Monster Hunter.

>>724834883
>>724835001
It's virtually non-existent on AT monsters which are the monsters people should be grinding, all the time, so I really don't see the problem.

>>724836238
The fact it even exists pisses me the fuck off and makes me wish Capcom would die.

>>724836304
You remind me of the spergs who hated Red Focus in Street Fighter 4.

https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/28052552/post/124210579

Handler chan~ I have a treat

>>724836505
The fact you have no taste and that you endlessly eat whatever cum and shit crapcum shoves down your throat makes your yapping meaningless. Get some standards and stop letting these practices slide. Who am I kidding tho, you ARE the lowest of the lowest common denominator they are targeting with their easy mode changes to the series

>>724836726
Don't know how to break this to you but the only time Monster Hunter was ever "hard" was vanilla Tri early game Barroth and Silverwind Nargacuga from Mh2.

are people still crying about 9* gore?

>>724837657
Sort of, now it's mostly Savage Omega. Gore having so much health though is pretty stupid. Capcom lazily giving monsters a billion health is total ass game design.

>>724834352
Unless it's bringing actual underwater combat I don't care, I didn't even buy the base game but that's the one thing that could get me to ignore the flaws.
Portable 6th when, i want to believe that can dodge a lot of wilds mistakes

>>724838102
Actual underwater combat coming back would unironically sell me. How can Capcom design an octopus monster but not bring back underwater combat? Shit is backwards.

>>724834785
Just make it useless on g-rank monsters

>>724838357
It should already have been removed on AT monsters since the entire premise for tempered fights is the fact that a monster got injured and came back stronger.

>>724834785
boooohooo

Have they fixed performance?

>>724839462
Fucking no, kek

>>724838596
And somehow Arch tempered mons didn't?

>>724839575
That's what I'm saying, wounds on low rank is fine, but they should be rare on tempered and gone on AT

>>724838038
How else are they supposed to make the monsters harder? 2x movement and attack speed and completely randomized attacks?

>>724838301
People unironically like the underwater combat?

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>>724834352
Thought they were going to abandon this game like Dragon's Dogma 2. Guess the 10 people that still care will be excited for DLC.

>>724840707
>abandoning their biggest IP
lol
lmao

>>724841191
I meant to say I want and hope they'll abandon the game and the franchise if they're going to trannify it this badly.

>>724840389
>2x movement and attack speed and completely randomized attacks
So Mh2? Yes, return to tradition

I just want Brachy and Shagaru so they can ruin their themes too

>>724840425
I always thought it was really easy. Being able to dodge in six directions as opposed to four made fights way more slippery.

>>724835423
have they fixed spread ammo having the retarded recoil?

>>724834352
did anything change?

>>724835203
>slower, methodical, high-committal attacks.
They were already moving away from this by Tri and 3rd

>>724841476
A little.

>>724841389
Being in only one game =/= tradition.

why does this game look like a smudgy piece of shit in motion? I have all maxed and while I stay still it is picture perfect, the second you move it looks aberrant

>>724841631
>a little
how so?
i'm guessing they didn't add recoil down; but some late game gun that is less retarded with the recoil and its still ass to use for 99% of the game?
I beat the game and just didn't want to do any post game stuff with how awful hbg felt to play and spread was like the worst feeling and the one I most like. pierce is just so awkward in so many fights that if spread isn't viable and you just need to play like normal or pierce it really sucks.

>>724841762
do you have DLSS or any other frame gen active?
either way RE engine looks like fucking shit

>>724842005
I use normal and it feels really good. Seregios' HBG with max Ballistics and Special Ammo Boost with max Opening Shot on a talisman is really powerful and a well-timed evade gives you three extra super-powerful shots.

>>724839462
It's unfixable unless they change the engine.

>>724836165
>duel blade hunter you can summon for quests
how the fuck would that work? aren't the monster hunters supposed to be genetically modified super soldiers? why the fuck is retarded brown kid supposed to be able to hunt them?

>>724841267
>tranny tranny tranny
How does it feel knowing that you're using the equivalent of 1984 newspeak? Are you even capable of actually articulating your thoughts any more? Or has using nothing but buzzwords rotted your brain that you're no longer capable?

>>724842267
>aren't the monster hunters supposed to be genetically modified super soldiers?
Nope, always been fanon wank.

>>724842267
>aren't the monster hunters supposed to be genetically modified super soldiers
No, they're just really well trained

>>724842920
Not even that, they're just...them

They just fit a roll and niche needed, and some of them can become fucking gods.

>>724838357
By making them even faster and impossible to hit
Also they kill you in one hit regardless of attack
Also they chain attack animations into one another
Also they have so much health you can't solo the hunt
That's good design

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>>724842267
>aren't the monster hunters supposed to be genetically modified super soldiers?
This has always been fanbase cope born from Capcom never bothering to explain the setting at all. How come there's no fall damage? How come our Hunters can eat a dumptruck of food? How come our hunters can tank being smashed by monsters the size of a house or pick up and use weapons that are enormous? What the ever living fuck is Dragon Element? The real answer is stop asking retarded questions about stupid shit that only matters to autists. Capcom doesn't care, neither should you.

Would Monhun fans really want Capcom to start explaining things? That's the direction Resident Evil when and now look at it. Fuck that. Even in Wilds, the Guardian monsters now exist and they suck ass. You fucks should want Capcom to explain way less because they clearly cannot do it without things being quickly retarded.

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These are who protects civilization from the savage beasts.

>>724834785
Focus is the least of the game's problems.

>>724836304
>"The mere existence of something infuriates me!!"

No amount of MH fixes will help that. Then you need professional help.

>>724834352
"we will be releasing a teaser for the announcement of the date of the trailer for the free title update" bro I fucking hate the japanese so much, they literally do this, I FUCKING hate these soulless bugman niggers we need to send at least 2 more nukes

>>724842378
chill out suzi

>>724844060
It isn't the least of the games problems.

Its a plethora of problems, which all snowball into a shitshow

I WANTED wilds to be a great game, I wanted that with all my heart, but it's just not

>>724842267
No, moron. Also, the player character is an extreme outlier in terms of strength, and the majority of hunters in each game are shitters by comparison. Which you'd know if you actually played the games and weren't a retarded /pol/ tourist.

>everyone bitches about focus attacks being op
>meanwhile, switch axe has got to have one of the jankiest focus attacks in the game that constantly fails to hit even though it visually looks like it should land

>>724845816
Any retard bitching about focus attacks only played on LR

>>724845562
>Which you'd know if you actually played the games and weren't a retarded /pol/ tourist
I've never paid attention to a single story in any of these games, fuck off with your bullshit you little bitch.

mh need to embrace the survival crafting base building genre

>>724846328
>I've never paid attention to a single story in any of these games,
>proceeds to make bullshit claims
lol
lmao

>>724841191
But enough about Resident Evil

Alma is the most beautiful character ever, don't care what the haters say. I am in love and want to chew on her lower lip like on undercooked bacon.

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I'll just wait until Ichinose's next game

>>724835203
> to account by making the monster more spastic
No, it's entirely the opposite. Focus mode allows devs to NOT nerf the monster by making it unable to turn. They've been letting monsters turn free since gen4, so now they are letting hunters do that too for the sake of balance.

>>724842267
>>724842920
Honestly MH Stories 2 really helps to show the gap when you have Reverto shitting out thousands of damage without trying while you're barely able to make up half of that with your monsters.

>>724834352
I have zero interest in Monster Hunter. I'm still really tempted to buy Wilds because Alma is my type. I kind of hate this about myself.

>>724850578
same but for nata

>>724834352
>remove focus mode
>remove chicken taxi, make manual controls actually good
>bring back classic grid based inventory system, remove whatever the fuck is the new inventory system
>remove seasons, literally and I mean literally everyone hates them
>remove nata and the tranny
and maaaaybe I'll consider buying it on a sale

>>724834785
this and wounds and open world and story focus and and and
oh wait nevermind we can just see if the bald cunt can make a video game instead of this games journalist slop

>>724852160
I'm currently playing through MHS2 and Reverto is indeed a powerhouse. I wish rider companions were half as useful as Reverto.

>>724840707
Monhun is one of the franchises keeping Capcom from declaring bankruptcy

>>724836238
>which are the monsters people should be grinding, all the time,
nigger real MH was never about autistic endgame grind
It was about the experience, the progression
But 4Ufags and worldsperms will never understand this

>>724852712
It's funny that this is true, while Capcom also rushes these out the door, taking their golden goose for granted

>>724834352
>getting new female id in next two months
I'M SO EXCITED TOO :3

>>724843082
Nice strawman, casual fag

>>724845816
LS has the worst focus strike in the game
SA's is not very good but usable

>>724838357
How do you make it useless on specific monsters though? it's a player-bound ability.
They just need to remove it, but it won't ever happen because it'll cause loss aversion on players.

>>724844002
Yeah, the genetically enhanced shit the community spouts is just garbage
It's an anime game with anime logic, don't need to think too hard about it

>>724835601
>Before, you had to properly orient yourself with your weapon to direct its attack
This has never ever been an issue lol

>>724845816
The worst was HH before they fixed it, good fucking god. Also SA is really frustrating to play now, even GIANT monster attacks don’t give you time to FRS without being hit in return. AT Nu Udra can burrow across the field, do his fire move, and even if you use it right next to him he still has time to smack you before you recover from the animation.

>>724839462
They have repeatedly alleged that the December patch will fix everything. I don't believe them.

>>724856543
Among other upgrades, give G-rank mons higher res against wound, that's it.

>>724857063
The problem with focus mode isn't wounds though

I got the game day 1 and was done with it by mid-march. Is there at least another 2 months worth of content added at the pace I was going (I put like 40 hours into it in that time, so I'm guessing probably not)

>>724856543
>>724857063
>>724857115
Add a no-brainer damage increase skill that disables focus mode
Increase HP and various thresholds enough that not taking it is an extremely bad idea
This way you CAN use focus mode but you'll be doubling your hunt times

>>724857115
Focus mode is fine, just minimize the wounds so there will be less damage and the monster can be less of a stationary sandbag.

>>724857414
They already nerfed wounds and made new monsters' HP so high they don't matter anymore. Focus mode is an issue because you're never missing your attacks and that isn't supposed to happen in MH

>>724857601
The monsters obviously have Hp pools built around focus and weapons have movesets with lots of micro steps that have to be corrected they’re not removing it

>>724857218
>I put 40 hours in and was done
What did you like kill every monster 1 time with 1 weapon ignore every sidequest and go “aaaah yep beat the game”

>>724834785
This

>>724844060
Quite literally all the games problems but performance stem from either focus mode directly or the game dev ideology that led to focus mode in the first place

>>724857414
Focus mode is literally not fine. They took away some manual aiming capabilities of LS that have been in since generation /2 and force you to use focus mode. And that’s without even getting to add the slip n slide slop that also exists due to focus like nu spirit slash

>>724858662
Just play a different fucking weapon if you don’t like how it handles
>baaaaw I don’t like any weapons focus le bad bad bad

>>724858906
Barely matters when all the weapons are getting more and more streamlined. And yes, focus mode, offsets, clashes and perfect guards do play a big part in killing weapons identities.

>>724858662
Fine, but it's unlikely they can just remove focus mode. It needs to be offset by something else instead.

>>724834883
Imagine having a mechanic that funadamentally alters the entire gameplay of the series...then imagine they made it even more broken then that. Focus mode is that.

>>724858508
I did every sidequest available and looked up if I was missing any and did those too and was bored by the time I was done. I even did all the fishing shit. I wasn't going to fuck around with mini crowns and all that shit

>>724859134
>more and more streamlined
Bitch please there are literally fucking flowchart memes for old gen weapons because they are so simplistic, weapons have only gotten more complex. Longsword doesn’t even have a counter in its debut gen

>>724844002
>You fucks should want Capcom to explain way less because they clearly cannot do it without things being quickly retarded.
This, fucking this. Shit was way more interesting when little was explained, was mostly implied and players just speculated about shit from the games and the books.

>>724858508
i played the game for a bit over 20 hours and killed gore magala then dropped the game because it was shit
this was in early march

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>>724859390
>crowns
that would be another 5-10hour of intense gameplay

>>724857414
>removing any and all positioning requirements is actually fine
found the target audience for this game

>>724834785
Seikret is a bigger detriment to the game than Focus mode.
I am not required to use focus mode, I am required to use the fucking bird.

Portable > mainline
It has been this way for like a decade now.

>>724862597
>decade
try nearly 20 fucking years
as soon as freedom landed the mainlines become obsolete
Tri was good and the last mainline game worth a darn but portable 3rd was better

>>724862268
Yeah go and stand directly in front of AT Nudra tell me how your positioning works out

>>724858906
The LS example is an explicit example but it’s found on a lot of weapons, the world spiral slash on SnS to redirect your character is a lot more fluid and responsive than the new gay strafe chop shit they added

>>724834883
Focus mode turned the game from third person action to a hero shooter

>>724855820
it's fine, I still believe the portable team will deliver

>>724834352
>Dei woke trash
No thanks

>>724863292
would not know i dont play shit games long enough to see some end game drip feed content

>>724862347
The Seikret is so forced it's even a detriment to Focus Mode, ironically. The Seikret commands completely superceded the option to use the d-pad for camera controls. Not only is this the first Monster Hunter game to not have that option, Focus Mode specifically would benefit from having a way to move the camera with your left hand so the right can use the face buttons.

>>724862347
Seikret literally exists because of the same rationale as focus. They are intertwined not separate

>>724863620
>hey guys i posted the words again

>>724863724
>Focus Mode specifically would benefit from having a way to move the camera with your left hand so the right can use the face buttons.

Did you ever think maybe this is intentionally awkward and they didn’t design the game around M+KB spergs?

>worst quest variety in the entire series
>small ass roster when they had 20 billion assets ready to reuse
>removed almost all side content
>investigation system is a gigantic downgrade and clashes with the "open world" design

Unless the expansion double the roster and gives you actual side content and a good investigation system, I have zero interest

>>724864513
You think they didn't design Focus Mode around moving the camera and attacking at the same time?

>>724863812
>manually adjusting your aim in between attacks and a mount? Yeah it’s the same thing
lol…

>>724865021
If that's how you understood the post you quoted, you are either esl or very fucking stupid.

>>724865173
Brother it’s wilds they made the game for retards like that

>>724840425
Yes. people who didn't are just filtered by extra dimensions of movement

>>724865173
I understand the post, it’s an absurd simplification that boils any change in how the character controls to “making it easier and therefore the same logic basis”
I’m sorry there’s more to the game now than CHARGE HAMMER and wait for monster to do double turn

>>724865338
Or played the majority of weapons, which got assfucked movesets underwater.

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Dragon's Dogma 2 died for this piece of shit...

>>724865605
They both died and were both shit.

>>724864824
>investigation system is a gigantic downgrade and clashes with the "open world" design
You can run out into the world and pick a fight with whatever monsters you run across without needing to do an investigation.

>>724834883
The game is balanced around it, it's not optional. If you are not using focus mode in Wilds, you are not playing optimally.

>>724834352
>change how you play
I don't play at all.

>>724865894
>You can run out into the world and pick a fight with whatever monsters you run across
You could do that in World and Rise as well, I dunno why people treat it as something new in Wilds

>without needing to do an investigation.
Except those are still investigations you're doing. And unlike SB, you are incredibly limited in what those quests can be, both in terms of monsters and conditions.

>>724865894
>>724866364
>without needing to do an investigation
Those ARE the investigations. They're just called Field Surveys until you log them.

>>724835601
>Before, you had to properly orient yourself with your weapon to direct its attack, while at the same time respecting all other considerations of positioning.
This was only a problem on like 3 whole weapons, a problem that was mitigated like 6 games ago by letting you adjust during an attack and progressively increasing the game's speed with every new release.

>>724839910
They are, 9* and AT monsters are very resistant to wounds.

>>724865920
Good thing I'm not a min-maxing autist and play games to have fun.

>>724866364
>>724866470
So, wait, you're free to just run out and attack whatever monster you want to which starts a hunt after doing some damage, and this is a very bad tranny faggot pedo thing?

>>724866593
wounds aren't the problem with focus mode. focus mode even without wounds would still be bad.

Camera lock-on onto the monster is also a retarded baby mode option and the game is worse for having it.

>>724866715
True, but the post I replied to was specifically about wounds

>>724844015
My game looks like this too. I'm sure it increases player retention because I keep the game installed solely to fap to characters in the lobbies and maybe do a hunt since I have the game open already.

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>most people buying Wilds have at least some experience with MH
>even new players most probably bought Wilds/Rise during the #ReturnToWorld campaign
>instead of taking this into consideration and having harder content from the get go, game is absolutely piss easy at launch, even tempereds get stunlocked easily and die in 3 minutes
>after 7-8 months, add monsters that don't die in 3 minutes
>90% of players will never see them because they already left and uninstalled months ago

Dunno how they couldn't see this coming
World was the new MH for many, Wilds is clearly not

>>724866907
If your game allows rolling in directions besides the one you’re facing it’s overly casualized

Can anyone explain what's so bad in Wilds with their own words besides the absolutely abysmal dogshit performance?

>>724834352
Everybody ready for the "bugwire claw"?

you'll still buy the expansion on release like a good little bitch

>>724867121
People have been doing that all thread, my dude. Just scroll up and read.

I'm not buying anymore of this shit unless they get rid of infinite camp restocking fake hunts.

>>724866907
Focus camera has been in since 4U IIRC it just never has mattered pre wilds because you couldn’t strafe until focus mode was added

>>724867263
this is such a gay complaint because you can just completely ignore the camps if you want. you can't ignore focus mode.

>>724865429
>charge hammer and wait for monster to turn
This is more involved and requires more execution and positioning than anything in wilds

>>724867338
You can just not press L2

>>724835740
>>724866592
>other games slightly softened this core gameplay, which was bad, so it's okay this new game completely guts it
fuck you retards

>>724867373
except the combat is balanced around focus mode. nothing is balanced around restocking at camps.

>>724866609
If that was true you’d definitely not be playing milds

>>724845816
SA is completely cucked in Milds. Still no viable playstyle outside of FRS spam.

>>724867421
>nothing is balanced around restocking at camps
Ironically, the changes they made to Gunner ammo was done with the intention that the player DIDN'T return to camp to restock their ammo, which is why basic ammo is infinite.

>>724867505
gunners aren't human

I don't think it's talked enough how much this game fucked up the "feel" even compared to World. You don't get to explore, and even if you do it's pointless, it never makes you feel badass, capturing endemic life is pointless, the whole mmo-like hub, there are tons of little things (and some big ones) that together make you feel like just an outsider instead of THE hunter of the settlement.

>>724867503
GL is ruined, too. it's just WSFB spam

>>724867067
Muh difficultly was always a cope phrase used by literal shills who wanted to say something negative about wilds (because the game fucking sucks) but didn’t want to ruin their relationship with capcom. The problem with wilds was never difficulty. 4 year olds can beat mario 64. No one but contrarian jaded autists find mario 64 unfun. The problem is wilds is boring as shit.

These are digital toys designed to have the player victorious. This actually does for any game that’s “too easy”. The game is just boring

>>724865605
DD2 died because Pragmata wasn't ready to ship in 2024 like it was supposed to.

>>724867503
>>724867664
Even more glad I didn't buy wilds then since those are my two main weapons.

>>724867653
Maps are legit the worst in the entire series somehow surpassing the absolute slop that is 4U.

I can’t tell if they fucked up the map design because they figured out everyone would auto run with the seikret or if they added auto run as a band-aid fix after they realized their maps were an un-playable invisible wall mess

>>724865894
You could always choose to kill monsters outside of your target, it's just pointless.

>>724867797
Worse: the maps were designed for auto run from the beginning. That's why it's the default movement option for the Seikret. That's why so many of the maps have Seikret-only paths. You're supposed to be on the Seikret until you reach "your destination."

>>724867421
>Nothing is balanced around restocking at camps.
Bullshit, it's one of the reasons why the only way they have to make you risk carting is cranking up the damage monsters do so much.

>>724867421
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED THE CRUTCH MECHANIC BECAUSE... I JUST DO OK??? IT'S NOT MY FAULT IT'S THE DEVS FAULT
git gud, ls player

>>724868007
>>724868049
schizos

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>>724866665
>SB
>investigations can have up to 5 monsters and multiple factors like limited carts, limited players, time, etc
>quests are randomly generated, so as long as those individual monsters could appear in that map, then it's good to go
>strength is universally scalable so all monsters can appear at max level
>this allows for hundreds and hundreds of different and challenging max level investigations involving all sort of monsters

>WIlds
>investigations can only have 2 monsters max, only factor that can vary is time
>quests are not randomly generated but require the monsters to be present at the same in the map, and for the game to pick those 2 monsters
>among all the negatives, this makes quests with 2 max tier monsters in arena almost impossible to get, something that would happen all the time in SB
>strength is NOT universally scalable, only a few monsters can appear at max level, the rest are worthless
>all these limitations mean there's barely like 20 different max level investigations that you can realistically get, always involving the same few monsters

It's not particularly hard to understand.
The funniest thing is that 9* scaling for all monsters is in the code already and the game can generate 5 monsters quest (like we've seen for packs), so they could easily fix this.
But they are so desperate for player retention they would rather drip feed a single 9* in events once every 3-4 weeks for the next 6 months.

Wounds stuns are the only thing dumb in wilds. Atleast you dont see it as much with higher level tempered monsters

>ANOTHER thread malding about milds

>>724867797
Probably the former, Rise already had the auto-run to target feature so they decided to by lazy fucks and design the maps around it.

>>724868082
"game is balanced around x mechanic" is just an excuse for absolute scrubs to justify them not using the mechanic

>>724868374
>Rise already had the auto-run to target feature
Did you play Rise? Because it did not have that feature. World had that feature when you progressed through each area's Grimalkyne questline, but Rise didn't.

>>724840707
DD2 was left to die be ause they couldnt let Wilds share thar fate, they still fucked it up.

It's funny how Wilds has so many things that are in the older games and for some reason those things are completely fine in the old games but horrible demonic attacks on gamers in Wilds.

>>724867668
you dumbass, Wilds was boring as shit because it was too easy
if it wasn't for 9 star hunts I would have stopped playing forever ago

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>Wilds Gog will be worse than 4U Gog thanks to the forced mmo phase fuckery
Crazy how they will ruin one the siege fight with the least amount of bullshit by adding more bullshit.
Nobody asked them to make fight more "engaging" or demanding than they already were

>>724868374
Holy kek. I wonder how long it's gonna take for fags to start attributing all the woes of the franchise to Rise and going on full mandela.

>>724868350
do monsters even get stunned when you pop wounds in 9 star hunts? I've seen them flinch a bit but that's it, the only thing that will actually stun/topple them is when it's one of those rare blue wounds

>>724868768
Each new release wipe the fan base collective memory

>>724868895
Only blue wound stuns will
Red wound hits on legs dont seem to stun anymore

>>724868357
It's just the fanbase that can't move on from a disappointing game, like DD2
The general public forgot about Wilds 3 weeks after release

>>724868741
If he was completely the exact same as he was before people would complain about how lazy Capcom is because they didn't add or change anything.

>>724868374
Rise only had the monster being visible on the map from the start of the game, you still had to run by yourself
>>724869073
yea dude, 2 more weeks and wilds is done for, right?

>>724869073
The general public doesn't care about video games to begin with.

>>724869220
You should really look up which entertainment industry brings in the most money.

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>This thread isn't even about an announcement
>it is a thread about an announcement being announced in possibly two months

Already sold this trash game

>>724869046
Red wounds never stunned they are just so frequent and monsters have such low health before 8* that you’d frequently hit the KD threshold off a focus strike

>>724869517
Awesome. Have a trophy.

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>>724834352
POST ROOMS

>>724834352
why change how I play? shouldn't the base game be good?

>>724867067
98% of the playerbase never see them myself included

>>724869216
>yea dude, 2 more weeks and wilds is done for, right?
Sales completely flatlined after release and there's barely any discussion around of the game outside of the week when a TU drops
I do think the expansion can still massively improve the game but you can't tell me the base game didn't lose the momentum it had super quickly

>>724870162
of course you're one of those sales fag

>>724868726
I modded in 2.5x HP and increased damage by the 2nd week of the game and that made it somewhat challenging, but it barely improved my enjoyment of the game.

>>724870461
>game sells well at launch due to pre-launch hype and the goodwill from previous games
>immediately stop selling once people actually get their hands on the game
No matter what, that's not a good signal at all, especially when the opposite happened with World and Rise
Capcom straight up said they are disappointed by the game performance after launch, so it's not even a secret

But also, like I said, there is zero discussion around the game. On youtube you stopped seeing regular MH videos after TU1 dropped
Most MH content creators even started covering other game in the meanwhile, moving away from MH
Capcom hosted a MH tournament the other day that they advertised fro months and there were barely 7-800 people watching it on Twitch

>>724867121
>game is so easy even the most retarded mouthbreather gets bored because you cannot possibly miss attacks thanks to focus mode
>monsters flop of the floor for most of the sub 5 minute hunts thanks to wound breaking knocking them down constantly
>the story is maybe 10 hours long and 8 hours of it is unskippable slow walking on your mount and 2 hours of it is hunting monsters that cannot match the bullshit moves the player character has
>everyone quit the game before they added some (apparently?) overpowered bullshit endgame stuff but none of that matters because the players are gone already

>>724871079
I only have one question, how did Capcom manage to lose all the goodwill they had built up with all the previous games? They literally crashed the plane with no survivors.

was being able to carry 2 weapons the most useless addition?

>>724871502
multiple games in a row with failed promises and worst of all, ignoring optimization

>>724870508
Yeah no, the problem wasn’t HP it was wounds making monsters explode while stun locking them to death. That’s why 8 and especially 9 star hunts have a bunch of nerfs to wounds built into them.

>>724844002
>That's the direction Resident Evil when and now look at it.
I can tell you're a secondary because they've explained how the viruses worked ever since the first game. It's the new RE games that don't explain anything and feel borderline magic.

>>724871079
>dude, twitch streams of literal who gameplay lmao
Holy shit man, that’s just desperate

>>724868613
rise has it after you engage the monster and it changes areas

>>724871502
Wilds is rushed, designed to appeal to the masses instead of the fans and misses the point of its own series

>>724869550
Regular Wounds on legs had a pretty high chance to topple them, and if you blew up enough wounds with a single focus strike it would also stun them, but neither of these matter in 9 star hunts.

>>724871079
>muh content creators
lol

>>724834352
So this is the announcement of the announcement?

>>724873000
Please be excited.

>>724873000
>this
"This" is just some clickbait youtube video thumbnail.

>>724872189
>Regular Wounds on legs had a pretty high chance to topple them,
Because their health was so low you were likely to hit the KD threshold, not because of any innate characteristic of wounds causing knockdowns.

If none of you are going to POST ROOMS right now I'm going to play HoMM.

>>724872072
No it doesn't? You still manually chase monsters between areas. There isn't an auto run in Rise.

>>724874627
No one has Milds installed

>>724834352
Don't care until they fix the performance issues

>>724834352
Why is there a hipster in the game?

>>724868726
Again, “too easy” doesn’t exist. This is a digital toy. What actually exists is “too boring”.

>>724875809
Hippie, not hipster.

>>724834352
>change how you play
How?

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>>724842267
>aren't the monster hunters supposed to be genetically modified super soldiers?
Nope, that's artbook stuff that's also vague on whether humans in general are the descendants of those dragon hunters. Humans and Wyverians in Monster Hunter are just cracked. The most recent confirmations that hunting is just a career-path for Guild agents are Rise talking about hunting being just a job you can dip in or out of in Elgado, and now in Wilds with Nata being a hunter in training.

>>724872143
Hunting monsters isn't the point of the series?

>>724875894
Kek

>>724869153
That's why they have completely overboard? No, giving new moves, gimmicks, effects or maybe a new sub or variant to returning monsters was perfectly fine back then, see Crimson Fatty and his variant in 4U, nobody ever complained about it because it literally got better while still being a challenging fight.

>>724869153
This is why new games flop, they change the formula. There's no need for stupid new gimmicks, give us new monsters, gear and maps, that's all we need.

Time to guess Milds sales next Quarter. I'm thinking...75k and 2 million more lifetime.

>>724834883
Because they think you're doing 180 degree turn TCS' at all times for some reason.
>>724867503
I miss Rise SA so fucking much.

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>>724835203
Idk focus mode genuinely owns. It's a really smart way to add a lock on that isn't gay and I even wish the souls games had it. I think people use it too much and make the game boring but you can't move as fast in focus mode for a reason. It also saved weapons like swaxe GS and hammer from getting out performed by anime weapons

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>>724877784
Yeh, just kill yourself, retard.

>>724877784
>saved switch axe
Lol
Lmao
Switch Axe is awful in Wilds. Give it a gay counter is stupid on top of making rapid morph worse and removing things it got in rise like axe phials, the good morph combo, etc.
Rise nailed it perfectly for how the weapon was designed to be, an actual SWITCH weapon.
Right now you basically only go into Axe to do one simple attack (spinning axe) to quickly refill 80% of the gauge snd then sit in Sword mode like a worse version of 3u SA.

I like Focus Mode, but don't spout literal shit.

>>724877362
How have they gone overboard? Did they release something detailing Gog's moveset in Wilds?

>>724877784
>saved hammer
Kek

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>>724875809
People say she looks like a jewish liberal arts student but she looks like Mia Khalifa but with glasses to me which is a few levels more disgusting IMO

>>724878709
Congalala is the father

>>724878712
She looks ugly as a sin, nothing like a character from Monster Hunter.

>>724877231
Exactly, not walking and talking and story.
And that hunting monsters should be fun and entertaining, not be either trivially easy or annoying spastic bullshit with no in-between

>>724877784
Focus mode and wounds are the core problems of wilds, not counting crippling performance issues.

>>724878862
Weird, when I played Wilds earlier I was hunting monsters, one hunt of doing so taking much longer than anything related to the story does.

>>724878712
They really went all out to cater to american players.

>>724834883
It has no downside. This shit should eat your stamina like an american eats fries at a McDonald, given how strong it is

>>724879117
>how strong it is
Why do you retards persist on pretending you've played the game and spout the dumbest shit on the planet like you think no one else has either?

>>724879464

Don't care. When I ever feel like playing MonHun I'm replaying World.

>>724879537
>Could've had this nice artsyle with detailed hubs and locales with gorgeous women
>Instead we got RE slop and DEI shitskins

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>>724835865
>My set up is currently unkillable
Better hold on to your butts then

>>724834352
Normies abandoned this game to such an absurd degree I wouldn't be surprised if the expansion failed to bring them back. I mean even MHW, easily the most successful MH game to date with the largest amount of normie appeal, was only able to capture a small fraction of the base game's sales with the Iceborne expansion.

>>724879464
Why are you downplaying how unbelievably broken focus is. It’s like going from WASD aiming to mouse aiming.

>>724879537
Finally a visually appealing character.

>>724880283
Well yeah, that's just how generally expac works since way back then. Anyone hoping it would double that massive initial sales is delusional

>>724880420
Yeah but what I'm saying is Wild's expansion is going to be even worse than normal because everyone already stopped playing and sales immediately fucking plummeted to rock bottom after the first month. If only a small fraction of players were buying into expansions before for the biggest most successful MH game ever then Wilds G-Rank is going to be a fucking ghost town.

>>724880324
It is not. The skill doesn't allow you to ignore how the weapon hitboxes work, it just allows you to turn your character in a direction and keep it there if needed. You'd understand this if you actually played the game.

>>724880537
Pretty much. So much for that 100 players hub, lmaooo

>>724880563
>it just completely transforms how you position your character and aim your attacks do much so it’s a full genre shift

Milds tards in full damage control

>>724879464
>>724880563
you can do a 180 degree turn mid true charge slash retard

>>724880697
It doesn't matter because in response they made finicky bullshit like Omega who constantly moves and has such a tiny attack area in its legs that even with the quick sns/dual blade and focus mode you will miss.

>>724880906
Thea my beloved.

The worst part about focus is it utterly fails as a newfag gamer dad mechanic. If you actually watch casuals play they rarely use focus, whereas you watch TAs and it’s generally on 24/7. The exact opposite of how it should be.

This makes sense though, because as a stand-alone control scheme it is extremely unique not appearing in any other video game which is kind of proof it sucks by the way considering dual stick controls are decades old now, so if it actually worked it wouldn’t be created by capcom in 2025 but I digress so casuals have no muscle memory from some other game to rely on. They are busy with learning monster hunter are a baseline before engaging with focus mode. Whereas for veterans who already are familiar with the series it’s just an added button that gives an insane amount of control.

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>>724880697
>completely transforms
Oh fucking please. You can't even aim your attacks upwards or downwards doing it and in 90% of cases it doesn't do much but small macro adjustments. Please shut the fuck up and stop embarassing yourself.
>>724880920
>muh 180 tcs
If you're doing this regularly, you're either having a giggle on purpose or are a complete shitter. Sorry.

>>724880990
No, it does matter. It infects every aspect of game design because it’s the fucking control scheme for the game. Including omega, who is 1 (one) singular monster that I will add no one with a brain has actually fought because only the most subhuman retards are still playing milds.

>>724881057
I want nasty balls of cat fur on my meals, not watching girls prance around in the kitchen

>>724881207
>small macro adjustments
>small
>macro
ESL jeet defending durgesh mode, what’s new

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>>724865605
Dragon's Dogma Online is the real Dragon's Dogma 2

>>724881207
Every single TA GS player is in focus 100% of the time to offset and spin to land charges on weakspots. You suck at video games.

>>724881207
>you can’t aim up or downwards
Are you retarded or a bot

>>724881057
Mogs Milds brutally.

>>724881057
A princess cantcook, hell, the ugly and retarded World's handler could cook! why the Wilds' bitch can't?

>>724881226
You should get your autism checked.

>>724881304
>doesn't understand the difference between micro and macro
The real esl is you, fucking dumbass.
>>724881345
What fucking TAs are you even watching?
>>724881403
Being able to shift up or down like 5 degrees is not going to matter in 99 cases out of 100. You're not going to be able to hit a standing Anjanath's tail with attacks that normally wouldn't by looking up.

>>724881441
>t. Brain rotted cuck

>>724881673
>you can’t aim up or down
>yea you can retard
>ok so you can aim up or down
Imagine being this much of a disingenuous, ESL pajeet

>>724881673
Every single GS TA and TA WR is in focus to land offsets and charges to weakspots.

>>724881689
You don't even play the game, you are just the same as other armchair faggots on /v/.

If 2 hunts are enough to craft the full set and weapon plus you get tipped a few extra monster drops, then it's not a real mh game

>>724880906
She warms my heart and soothes my soul.

>>724881867
No shit I don’t play the game. Nobody does. The game LITERALLY lost 99.9% of its players in a month. It couldn’t sell 1 mil after launch despite opening with 10 mil in less than a week. The game fucking sucks ass.

And you know how I knew? Because I played the FREE BETA. Saw what the fuck they did to LS and SnS and knew this game was shit.

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>>724881763
>you can change slightly, giving no real benefit at all in almost any case that matters
Man, sucks that you can't read. How about you show me how focus mode can allow anything that isn't a ranged weapon to hit places they normally can't.
Oh wait, you're can't, because it isn't a thing.
>>724881765
>went from spinning to just landing strikes
Right, so they rarely do big turns to land hits. As I said.
>>724882150
>I played a couple hours of the beta, I'm basically an expert

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>>724881057
I like the food in Wilds, but I miss the *cooking* animation.

>>724881867
>nobody played this game with 10 mil sales
Newsflash, a lot of people did in fact play the game. Unfortunately for capcom shills like you the game is rancid dogshit. Say the line.

>>724881912
>2 hunts are enough
It's not because of those gayass Hunter Tickets

>>724882150
LS and SNS are better than ever though, retard. They are literally the best and most fun weapons in the game.

>>724882302
Every single GS TA and WR use and stay in focus for offsets and landing charges to weakspots; both spinning and using magnetism.

>>724878113
>Rise nailed it perfectly for how the weapon was designed to be, an actual SWITCH weapon.
SA has always been “get meter in Axe mode to use sword mode”, the Rise incarnation where you can fight with the axe extensively is an abberation

>>724882302
You said here
>>724881207
You cannot aim up or down
Then said here
>>724881673
Ok you can aim up or down

It’s GG. You’re fucking retarded

>>724882402
Both LS and SnS were given new dogshit directional sliding attacks, they are trash.

To the non wilds players who have played sunbreak they basically by default gave LS and SnS that shitty DB switch skill that slides your character that no one used

>>724882402
Charged slop is hilariously unsatisfying and shitty feeling

>>724882428
Your implication was that aiming up and down meant shit like SNS could stand underneath a monster and attack upwards to hit things they normally can't.
This isn't a thing, so your small gib of "oh but you can angle" is not a win like you think it is.

>>724882302
>I played a couple hours of the beta, I'm basically an expert
It was a couple. I extensively played the beta because I was charitable at first. I wanted to like wilds because this is my favorite series in vidya. The conclusion I reached is basically the same everyone else reached: it sucks asshole.

>>724882754
Take all my money!

>>724882421
Weapons evolve and it's clear the direction it was supposed to go is how Rise handled it. Wilds SA is utter trash and actually feels worse than it's original iteration in 3rd gen because at least in 3u and 4u axe mode had some benefits to it.

>>724882708
What are you talking about? You lied, and got BTFO.

Not a win? You got caught red handed lying like a scammy faggot pajeet.

>>724882302
Look, tranny, everything we say is right, everything you say is wrong, you fail as a Capcom shill and a woman, 41% yourself before you embarrass yourself further.

>>724882910
>Weapons evolve and it's clear the direction it was supposed to go is how Rise handled
It does not work like that in ANY game besides Rise, most Rise weapon identities are confined entirely to that game and the Switch skill system. Also Axe mode is needed to offset anyway so it has a benefit in Wilds

>>724834352
Expansion trailer is probably getting shown during Game Awards and prior to that they're dropping TU4 to farm positive reception for those sweet sweet pre orders
Because who the fuck will be preordering the expansion if the game still runs like shit

>>724882604
That's a crazy thing to say, the sns one at least has minor invuln frames and serves as a free dodge/reposition that moves you the distance of about 1.5 regular rolls but is slightly slower.

>>724882832
>favorite series
Aka you started with World like 95% of people complaining about Wilds.
>>724882913
>I can't argue against the actual point, so I'll hyper fixate on one thing he got incorrect
This is hilariously sad.
>>724883113
>minor
The iframes on the sliding slash are frankly ridiculous.

>>724883023
>it was always le shit

>>724883187
Argue? This ESL pajeet doesn’t know what an argument is. You lied, got called out and BTFO. There was no argument being made. You made a false statement and got called out.

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>>724834465
Has monster hunter ever disappointed in that regard?

>>724883187
KWAB this faggot is going to kill himself

>>724883023
It's almost like Rise got it right and that's the point?
>switch skill system
Has no bearing on anything I stated did right for the weapon.
>axe is needed for offset
People rarely even use the offset because you have to already be in axe to even have a chance to get it off due to how slow it is.
Axe doesn't even really have the part damage attribute it used to have.

>>724883023
Iceborne buffed axe mode with that power up finisher that ironically you don’t really use in rise

>>724834465
Ryozo said it's because of the story why the game succeeded, so I fully expect for those delusional japs to double down on it

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I'm gonna buy a new computer on black friday so I can finally experience this game the way it was meant to be played.

>>724883686
That's mostly because it took too long to get off with the three swing requirement, plus generally better options to build amp mode via silkbinds.
Even in Wilds it's not especially good or needed, but at least you can get it going via focus strikes or sneak attacks.

>>724834352
please let there be a new weapon type

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>those Arkveld biceps

achievable natty?

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>>724883964
>tfw they added a new category of monster that's giant octopuses and didn't add a Whip weapon made of their tentacles

>>724883964
They're not adding a new weapon in an expansion.

>>724883901
720p 30 fps?

>>724878113
i feel like you can save SA just by giving it a meter on both modes and let the both mode build the opposite meter. have they ever done that in one of the games?

>>724884091
MH needs a kernel level anti cheat to combat this

>>724882754
Where is the guy with the legiana?

>>724868741
Gog was never good however. Because monsters of that size are never good. They are just fights where the monster turns slightly and suddenly the only part of the monster you can reach is on the other side of the arena and you spend all fight chasing that part while avoiding large full body hitboxes. And lets not pretend that using the on-site equipment makes for an engaging or interesting experience either.
And Gog being a big slow tar Magala means he does the Magala charge all the time, which he uses to just clear the arena and move his wing arms completely away from you while becoming a big slow hitbox.

Wilds can literally only make it better even with the unasked for, time wasting, forced cinematic garbage they'll do to it. No, onions facing because he can fly and laser spin or because of the funny quest name does not make the 4u version good.

>>724883964
Like what?

>>724884374
It's not harming anything
Let him have that

>>724884482
It's harming Capcom's bottom line because people are less likely to buy DLC if people can just mod in something they like more.

>>724884401
I just want to point out the entire reason wilds is bad is because it’s a 4U spiritual successor

>>724884589
The dlc isn't good anyway
They wouldn't have to do this if they made shit people would actually buy and they know what the people want

>>724884139
No, what Rise did was give it a good morphing combo and that when you were amped, phials applied to axe hits too.
Combine it with rapid morph having substancial effect on ALL morphing (not just fucking fade morph in wilds) and you had a weapon that flowed really well.

>>724834785
/thread

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>>724884139
Doesn't it already have exactly that, though?

>>724884987
Not really, it's just all building shit to go into sword mode. There's no real reason top use axe mode because it does no damage.

>>724884482
Harms my eyes and harms Capcom

>>724834883
More than half the anons defending it aren't even aware it does more than just "snap" to the monster, it fucking extends some of the weapons hitboxes. It's ass.

>>724884374
They need to install spyware into your computer over cosmetic mods that affect nothing and other people can't see?

>>724884401
So which Elder Dragon should they have used instead? A small one like Kirin?

>>724885295
It does? I've misses wounds so many times when focus striking, and the farthest it turns you is maybe 60 degrees. And if that wound is on a tail or wing being held off the ground it's not getting hit unless you're using a reach/ranged weapon.

>>724834708
I hope it's another white cave that's completely indistinguishable from the last two white caves