Would you still like Dragon's Dogma if BBI didn't exist?
Most of my playtime in DD1 was before the expansion existed. I didn't even play the dlc until the pc version came out.
yeah, I really enjoyed exploring the map. the first time I went out at night and saw different monsters was pretty darn cool. eventually I did start using port crystals to do things super efficiently, but I don't think there was ever a point where I was disappointed while exploring the map
>>724839392yes
>>724839392I would probably like it more because there wouldn't be a better game in the series to compare it to.
>>724839392bbi is gay so yeah
>>724839519I think Gransys gets really easy once you're level 40+ which isn't hard to reach and it's a shame because I like Gransys content... but eventually it's like "aight I gotta graduate to BBI now"
Shit franchise, failed every time.
>>724839392Yeah, my first few go arounds I would often get hard-blocked by one level of BBI or another, so I got far more familiar with Gransys and the Everfall.Later on I got far more comfortable with it and on my solo sorcerer run I found that using Exequy there was great for powerleveling
I have 200hrs in it and only did few hrs of dlc Base world feels like a lord of the ring map and encountering new monster first time is such a great feeling, i just wish their more enemy variety and faction in this game
>>724839392BBI is super late endgame anyway
>>724839392sure
>>724839760BOTW lost.
I'd like it a lot still, but probably not consider it a top 10 because I have an autistic obsession with dungeons and I hate how few ARPGs feature proper large dungeons
>>724839392Yea, but I wouldnt have put as much time into it. Like with DD2, I liked the base game, but I have no desire to replay it, theres no BBI segment.I can load up DD1 right now and just ask for peoples pawns and do some runs of BBI, in DD2 theres no even any point of asking for peoples pawns because it doesnt matter, and theres no area to just go and play the game with them.
>>724839392Yes I would, but I would like it less.
>>724839392I mean it made it better. And god does DD2 need similar treatment.The issue with DD is it might have some of the most fun gameplay I’ve ever found, but Capcom doesn’t know what to do with it. It’s like a less-anime monster hunter for adults. DD2 has incredible bones, but man the story is hot garbage, there’s no hardmode to be seen, and Capcom appears to have forgotten about it after declaring it a key franchise.
>>724839392Yeah, I bought it vanilla.
>>724839760It could be amazing though, it just needs some fucking love from the developer.
How do you guys feel about hard mode?Last time I did a playthrough on normal it felt super easy... was thinking about replaying it from level 1 on hard.
>>724839392Rift Crystal grinding is kind of annoying and my main driving factor in DD was getting new shit along the adventure. That being said, I do really like the story and difficulty in BBI.
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>>724840758To be fair, DD is probably really expensive and I don't know why Itsuno chose to basically retread so much old ground with DD2, even if we ignore how overambitious and shallow most of the overworld is due to trying to do a million fucking things.
it'd be a weird but enjoyable jank action kino
>>724840885Looks like HRT Samwise Gamgee.
>>724840794DDDA was a bit much on hardmode, 400% damage is a ton and the extra gold and exp makes it frustrating as hell early on, and piss easy later on.If Capcom ever remembers DD2 and actually gives us some content hardmode should just be three sliders - enemy damage upto 300%, enemy stagger required upto 300%, and enemy health upto 300%. No extra gold, no extra exp. Also a fucking slider to set maximum world pawn level so level 80 pawns with all endgame gear don’t solo everything in the world on their own.
>>724839392yeah i liked the base game of DD1 no matter how much 2fags cope and say the original DD1 sucked until dark arisen and 2 will totally be saved by some future magic dlc.
>>724840794Whatever difficulty is introduced is quickly offset by how much experience and gold they give you.
>>724839392I don't like BBI so yes.
>>724841037>DDDA was a bit much on hardmodeThrowblast spam. I know it's cheesy but dying in two hits in a game like DD is simply not fun.
>>724839392i liked it before BBI existed.
>>724841090To be fair you could overlevel on normal mode by having vacant pawn slots for the +50% bonus. One time I did this, just a playthrough with me and my main pawn, and ended up overleveling.
Yes I beat DD twice before getting into BBI
>>724839392>Would you still like Dragon's Dogma if BBI didn't exist?Yeah? Dragon's Dogma was already my favorite game of all time even before Dark Arisen came out. I have no idea where this meme came from that Dragon's Dogma was mediocre or even bad before Dark Arisen came out.
>>724840975Samwise Gamgee? Man, you saw a different flick than I did.
>>724841152Yeah I would have been into like 200% or 300%. Cheese was sort of the only option.
>>724839392>the wind isn't pushing himhomosex
>>724842105No, I don't think so.
>>724839392Yeah, I really enjoyed the game before Dark Arisen was released. It was a solid addition to the game, though.>>724840794It isn't balanced all that well. Early on, you can be one-shot by literally everything, but you gain experience so quickly that you can quickly overpower everything like usual. I think it's still a better experience than normal mode, but the game really needed some adjustments to the damage formulas and how attribute growth worked.
>>724839392Probably yea. I played it with Dark Arisen, but there's a lot to do in Gransys + the endgame and everfallAll of the core appeals are there in the base game.BBI is really good though.
>>724839392I never even played it much because it was lame.It's always been annoying seeing DD2 shit eaters say it's BBI that I liked, those people are grasping retards.
>>724839392Yes. DD1 became my favorite game of all time when it first released, Dark Arisen was a cherry on top for me.
>>724846102this anon gets it
>>724839392BBI felt like "what if DD was more like Dark Souls" to me down to the environment, difficulty and final boss. Its also fun to play the base game with overpowered BBI weapons.
>>724840794I did hardmode as a warrior only from level 1 (started as fighter), yes early stuff can one-shot you, even the bats, but once you get the defensive augments, about 2-3 levels, or some perhaps some early game armor in the starting town most stuff will 2 or 3 shot you with one shots being reserved for big attacks that you can dodge if you pay attention and use the environment to your advantage and your pawns as a distraction. I thought it was quite fun to have to step into my swings to dodge attacks while fighting and that positioning was really key, instead of mindlessly swinging into everything...It is true that hardmode exp will make you start to outs-cale gransys super hard by mid game so you'll purposely want to skimp on gear or get a mod to reduce your exp gain.Once you get addicted to the game actually being deadly you'll learn probably bored of regular enemies because they swing too slow and are predictable, and BBI will be last avenue for deadly encounters with very aggressive opponents. People whining about getting 2 shot or 3 shot being too difficult don't even want to play a video game, they just wanna mash buttons to pass the time. Gransys enemies generally aren't aggressive enough to kill you unless you're playing sloppy as shit - but you WILL get punished if you eat big attacks, especially from bandits.
>>724839392I'd like it more actually. Gacha island was a mistake.
>>724839392Yeah, but it the game would've felt unfinished. BBI feels like a proper late-game area while the everfall only feels like a midgame area.
>>724839392I've never actually gotten that far in BBI and now I've played the base game too many times to sit through it again so I'll probably never finish it.
>>724839392yap. with mods i can strip and rape other people's pawns. no other game offers that
>>724839392Yes. Bitterblack Isle is just a super endgame area to me.
>>724841037>>724841090>>724842850>>724849016Anon here, I started a new game on hard mode and I'm having fun. I'm experienced enough with the game to have it not be frustrating with the extra damage taken. The increased enemy stagger/knockdown resistance helps a lot with preventing me from stomping everything, and extending fights a bit.
>>724839392AUGHT AUGHT AUGHT AUGHT AUGHT
>>724839392yeah I actually never did BBI until a month before DD2 dropped and I owned DD1 and DDA on PS3 forever.Rushed through most of it pretty quick
>>724839392>Dark Arisen version came out 11 months after initial release.>DD2 has nothing over a year out. >They added easy mode instead of hard mode.
>>724839392Yes. I honestly don't care too much for BBI.
>>724839392Adulthood is realizing the base game is better than BBI>>724840794Hardmode is the only way to play the game
Haven’t even played bbi, base game is already great.DD’s only flaw is that there isn’t enough of it. It’s a 1/4 scale model of the best game ever made.
>OP begs the question>gets btfolove to see it
>>724839392BBI is fun but it misses the point of DD entirely. DD isn’t just its combat, it’s its immersive elements and quest structure too, which BBI largely lacks. You can really tell Itsuno had nothing to do with it, then again DD2 sucked so maybe he was a hack all along and DD was amazing in spite of him.
>>724839392yesthe base game was already solid, its gameplay near pristine then 2 made it "weightier" and insufferable to playdark arisen didn't change the game as much as blastbros (who gave up on the hope of a dlc engoodening DD2) pretend
>>724839760 You were fooled by /v/ the game is shit and I will explain why: >No indication of where roads lead >No hint to what enemies are weak to >No hint of when enemies are alone or in groups >No warning to avoid status effects >No clue to which items are masterworks I don't know how people defend this game.
yes i would, but i wish they did more with my wife Mercedes and Selene
>>724840139Holy shit.I just realized BotW is just a shitty DD ripoff.
>>724859863They are nothing alike, what are you smoking
>>724859327Cloudwine is not made of a thick viscious liquid.
>>724859989>open world with mythical creatures where you level up your abilities through exploration but with worst combat, climbing and even less of a story than DD hadThey are. BotW is just even more empty and lackluster in content.
>>724839392Having read all the DD2 discussions: Fuck no. People would hate it.
>>724857007>there isn’t enough of it>no I haven't played the exp packdude why
THE WIND!!!!!
>>724860053it's made with harspud milk and nuts so i think it makes sense it looks foamy, a bit like chunky cream
>>724860223>open world with mythical creatures where you level up your abilitiesYou've described 95% of open world RPGs. Again, what the hell do BotW and DD have in common when the former has no focus on in-depth combat, no classes, no extensive bestiary, no pawn system, no NG+ system and nothing in-between?
>>724860331because it’s not the samejust fighting more stuff isn’t the same as having more world and more questsif i just wanted to fight more stuff i’d just do ever fall forever
>>724839392I'd like it as a somewhat cool 8/10 game that gets old somewhat fast but BBI elevated it into a 11/10 alltime favourite.
>>724861939but having more world and more quests is a means to fighting more stuffplus BBI has some very neat level and encounter design, comparing it to the Everfall is dumb
>>724839392Yes. Only retards think BBI is all that makes DD good.
>>724839392Game's so boring and I played shit souls 3.
I think the franchise as a whole is just not very good. Feels like some cult took over the minds of anons and instead of critiquing the game in an honest way they instead critique it based on ideas of how the game would be if it were made by more competent developers. The games as they are are both sort of mediocre.
>>724862920the first game is good to begin with, but it has to click with youthe second game is just kind of mid
>>724839392you still got the story and the looping hole thing but thats not nearly enough i would say 60% of the value is in BBI
>>724862765DS3 is even worse so I guess your taste is waste disposal tier.
>>724862920It was always a cult classic for janky rpg enjoyers who somehow tricked everyone into thinking it was a hidden gem and the sequel was gonna be the next big thingAs a janky rpg enjoyer my main criticism is the stupid idol quest and literally needing to babysit an npc, following a list of unreasonable demands which require items you don't get told you need to get a perfect score so you can accquire the gold idol and unlock the ability to buy some actually good gearWhich is why BBI is great, you can get even better gear there or dragonforge your weaker stuff so you don't need the gold idol
>>724839392No BBI means no DLC and no advanced classes just so we're clear
>>724839392i loved the vanilla game so much, i played it like crazy back then.i subsequently bought this game two more times after that, DDDA PS4 and the PC version of it later
>>724839392Yes. BBi is cool but not necessary to make DD playable. The biggest problems with DD are the same as DD2, that once you reach a certain level shit around you stop being a threat. DD and DD2 would be better if characters didin't level up, only their classes.
>>724839392Yes, I was a fan before the expansion dropped.
>>724840885Very kino shot.
>>724866773The medusa fight was really neat. I wish there was more of that.
>>724839392I only tried it once. Never saw the point of it, really.
>>724839392Yes. BBI "finishes" the game, but the original Dragon's Dogma is incredibly charming.
>>724867160truth
>>724862920DD (even with DA) is blatantly and painfully unfinished. It's still the most fun game I've ever played and does what I want to see in an action RPG. Very few other games come close in terms of being a big 3D adventure game.
