What build should I go with in Cyberpunk?
monowire+sandy
>>724841506feet
Hacker buildUse Uninstall.exeProfit
LMG + Tank build.
>>724845020>Phat Ass Lime Girl
>>724841506Is she in the game at all?
>>724841506I want to rub her feet
>>724845080No because spoilers, you can find her shotgun though.
Rebeccass
>>724845189her shotgun and she is also a skill icon
>>724841506exclusive throwing knife user refusing all other modes of combat
>>724841506I went throwing only and I could kill anything in render distance
>>724841506katana mantis blades knives sandy
>>724841506The most vile sword build you have ever seen, mix it with a sandevistan and you will be slicing retards before they even know you cut them.
>>724841506why she swiming in pee?
>>724847365>>724847412I get why katanas are the defacto sword (or even just melee) option in scifi and cyberpunk settings, but I really wish there were more options. It wouldn't take much to design a cyber saber, cutlass or broadsword. Plus those are all swords historically used with guns in the off-hand, so that adds combat options.
>>724841506BUILT DIFFERENT
>>724848126I want to use some kind of electrified rapier
>>724845080No, and it's why I refuse to spend a penny on anything related to the franchise, because I'm STILL that mad about the anime ending lmao.Fuck Romania
>>724848235To be fair, that anime couldn't have ended any other way
>>724841506Youtube "Aggressive Netrunner" build
>>724848126They also have some machetes and 40k-styled chainswords in the game but iirc most of the actual melee tricks you can take in talents are just for katanas.
>>724848493That's neat I guess but still not really what I had in mind. I know why machetes are standard in post-apocalyptic and modern setting games but in a world where swords are somehow back in use I don't see the point of using them when cutlasses are the same concept but design-built for actual combat.
>>724848196The trouble with rapiers is one of the reasons katanas are actually pretty practical, they're an absolute bitch to wear and carry, due to their length and complex hilts. Katanas have a lot of tradeoffs but they're typically pretty short and outside of having slightly long grips, pretty easy to carry around and wear. Rapiers are fanatastic for duels but not great for closed-space brawls or open combat due to their focus on thrusting, it's a bit different if you have a dagger to go with it or something but there's a reason people either didn't use rapiers in warfare or used ones that were typically shorter, broader and more suited for cutting.
>>724841506The one you enjoy, retard.
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>>724841506Sledgehammer + Bonk build
>>724848979>"historical fencino" shoulder patch>fenciiiinoo! *italian gesturehahah what a silly sounding language
>>724841506any of them, the game doesn't require you to min max or for your build to actually be a buildyou can put points at random and still finish the game without issues, like 99% of all rpgs ever released
>>724850562I mean say what you like but they have their own historical reproduction training sword based on an actual antique from a famous knight and battle on Malta, that's pretty cool if you're into that sort of thing.
>>724841506>buildI think you've confused this game for an rpg.
>>724841506Use contagion with something that applies burning, I've found it rather fun.
>>724848126>>724848196I think an issue with European swords in a cyberpunk setting is that there's a certain regal or refined aura about them. Katanas can do that too, but they also have a "down and dirty" aspect to them that's lacking in sabers, longswords, rapiers, etc. Even if you think about pirates, there's still a certain swagger and panache to them which would feel out of place.If you made historical European weapons futuristic, you'd end up with sci-fi like Gundam or Warhammer, not with cyberpunk.Either that, or you'd have to go very comic-book and stylized like the artstyle used for Necromunda.
>>724853372I really don't know what you mean, katanas are famously elegant weapons whose incredible cutting power is offset by their surprising fragility. Cutlasses by contrast were historically incredibly crudely made, brutish swords, which by the 19th century were made mass produced and built to be sturdy enough to survive 50 years of service. They're absolutely incredibly grungy, katanas are likely more typical since their rise in popularity coincided with cyberpunk's rise in popularity in popular media.
>>724853372>>724855152Wrong pic, whoops.
>>724845080no because she is fucking dead
https://litter.catbox.moe/xzxfp864znsv4nlp.jpg
>>724841506Shortstack with a shotgun
>>724855424>Teal mingeCute.
>>724855152If you put a weeb paintjob on a katana it looks like it fits the setting.
>>724853372It's just a cultural thing.Modern ideas of weapons and Japanese ideas of weapons are very similar in that they're treated as something special that takes a lot of care.Then you go to European history and swords are just tools, tools that got melted down into a better tool when they came. Anybody who has a sword in the west either have one made by a modern smithor it's an ornamental piece from the 19th century. Whereas in Japan they still exist because it wasn't just a tool, it was a status symbol, it was something to keep through your family because it meant something more.Modern gun nuts are similar in that they treat their weapons as something special, something you have to adhere to their standards when using. It just blends well into using Katanas.If you use European weapons, you either have a weird case where your world is more carefree over just them but not guns or Katanas or you make people treat the weapons as Katanas have been treated which is also weird.
>>724848196Like some kind of laser rapier
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funny how all it takes to save a shitty mediocre game is a sassy little girl
>>724855907underestimate the power of msgk at your own risk
>>724855639>Then you go to European history and swords are just tools, tools that got melted down into a better tool when they came. Anybody who has a sword in the west either have one made by a modern smithor it's an ornamental piece from the 19th century.Not really, loads of swords were important status symbols and extremely expensive which is why so many rapiers and smallswords survive today. Even military swords had cultural significance, Scottish broadswords were kept for that reason too, probably the same applies to sabers in places like Poland and Hungary. And even beyond that, a huge number of 19th century swords were kept, officer's swords were also status symbols and private purchases owned and kept by the officer, but even regulation issued swords were made in such large supply that a huge number still exist to this day. These can be found in museums, at auctions and in private collections.
>>724841506why is she swimming in piss?
>>724846942It's crazy how she one hands that shotgun in the anime.In game the recoil is insane and each shot eats half of your stamina bar. Using it also slows your movement. And canonically V is borged to the max with all the implants (way more than Rebecca) his meme tupa BF means he's immune to cyberpsychosis.
I remember doing an unga bunga punching build. It was fun
>>724855989Not him but there were obviously ornamental and ceremonial swords in European history, it's a weapon you can carry with you which makes it an accessory for a nobleman. There were also plenty of purely functional weapons made for actual soldiers, there were probably far more rough and ready blades made for use than there were fancy swords made as ornaments, but there is an obvious bias in the weapons which are found and displayed in museums. The ornamental weapons are more likely to have been preserved and are more likely to be presented.His point probably makes sense if you remember that forging a sword was much cheaper, faster an easier in Europe than it was in Japan so purely functional weapons were more affordable for the rank and file
>>724844495becca would never get embarrassed in this pose
>>724855989>These can be found in museums, art auctions and in private collectionsWhich isn't the norm. They're in museums because they're not the norm. You'll find it very hard to find someone in Europe that has kept a sword in their family for more than a century. Private collectors are even able to collect them because they're not seen the same way a Katana is, people that have no need for the weapon and doesn't hold any sentiment value to the weapon is given an offer to collect it and they sell it, because it's just a tool they have no need for.In fact, so much so that I'll eventually inherit a Katana that my granddad most likely looted from Japan. I also know someone else who's family has a Katana from WW2. I don't know nor have ever known of someone to have any kind of weapon that has passed through their family other.
>>724855152>katanas are famously elegant weaponsNot really. Many stories that involve them have literal murder hobo protagonists that never bathed or maintained their katanas. You're thinking of modern fiction and not long-standing tropes.>Cutlasses by contrast were historically incredibly crudely made, brutish swordsThe fuck am I reading?
>>724856217>people care more about exotic loot than something they knowno duh, sherlock homo
>>724856167Yes, rapiers and smallswords were often fashion accessories for gentlemen, but to say they were ornamental instead of functional is simply not true. Duels and even murders with such weapons are historically documented. > but there is an obvious bias in the weapons which are found and displayed in museums.It depends on the era, really. Yes, rapiers and smallswords are more common in the 17th and 18th centuries but industrialization and swords falling out of civilians fashion in the 19th century means military swords of that era are far more common today.
I did not realize /v/ took their swords so seriously
>>724856217I mean you said "Anybody who has a sword in the west" inferred anyone having them in general, I just wanted to be clear that they do exist such as those held by private collectors.>I don't know nor have ever known of someone to have any kind of weapon that has passed through their family other.Granted, but you're inherited looted weapons, not an heirloom. Most people in Japan don't have inherited katanas either, the majority of those are also in musuems or collections.
>japanese sword>outdated tool formerly associated with land-owning samurai class reduced to tool of rapist looters>something with meaning that's been degraded>cyberpunk>european sword>outdated tool formerly associated with land-owning nobility relegated to hobby for land-owning nobility>something with meaning that's been maintained outside of its original use>not cyberpunkSimple as. Pro-tip. Swords and fencing were hobbies of the upper class up until World War 2.In Japan, "le noble samurai bussyshido" stuff was pushed by the administration despite people seeing the katana as nothing more than what a rapist looter would use. It had a revival in the 60-80s through film and anime, which is why it's popular today and has been rehabilitated.
>>724856230Katanas are associated with being historically elegant swords, gunto are rarely if ever in popular media. In fact outside of Raidou I can't think of any example in video games.>The fuck am I reading?The truth? The cutlass was a sailor's sword, officers and gentlemen rarely if ever used them. They were made cheaply and functionally because they had to be kept in racks on board ships for up to years or even decades at a time, constantly exposed to sea water and all kinds of rough wear and tear form sailors using them not only as weapons but also tools.
>>724856636>crudely-made and brutish = durable and designed with function in mindYeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.>Katanas are associated with being historically elegant swordsThis is a fairly modern invention similar to the idea that the "dark ages" were a period of regression or something. Haven't read a more redditarded thing today, thanks.
>>724856526>Swords and fencing were hobbies of the upper class up until World War 2.Cutlass exercises for common sailors were a core part of navy training at least as far back as the early 19th century, likely much earlier. They were kept even as late as the early 20th century until the cutlass fell from regulation issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIDHPO54BI
>>724856260Why are you replying? The anon is telling me I'm wrong lol.>>724856472>inferred anyone having them in generalIt infers the average person, nobody talks in using edge cases. I'm not going to write "anybody except collectors, museums, particular families" and so on because that's retarded.>Most people in JapanAnd virtually no person in the west. No Englishman is inheriting a weapon, no German is inheriting a weapon, the vast majority of westerners are not inheriting a weapon used by their ancestors. Despite the fact that our ancestors used weapons and that we're alive because the weapons allowed our ancestors to live.Inheriting a looted weapon is the point. I know more people here in the UK that are inheriting a weapon from WW2, in particular a Katana which only lasted until WW2 to be looted because their owners family kept it through generations after the Imperial Army switched to guns.If it was Japan defeating the UK, they wouldn't be looting bladed weapons from soldiers kept through generations, they'd be looting standard issue guns.
>>724841506the uninstall and refund build
>>724841506I ended up enjoying Body + Tech build with Gorilla Fists and Berserk a lot more than I thought I would.
>>724856732They were, sorry. They were cheaply made using the cheapest materials available using molds and regulation templates because they needed to be produced in vast quantities. The later ones had cast iron grips and the early ones literally only had sheet steel grips wrapped around a wooden core. You're allowed to not think of them as crude, but compared to basically every other kind of sword of the era, even including other military swords, they absolutely were.>This is a fairly modern inventionYou mean the perspective that's relevant today? Yes, that's the point.
>>724855424Boobs too big
>>724856778>because their owners family kept it through generations after the Imperial Army switched to gunsHistorically illiterate retard. The reason katanas were even available as loot in WW2 was because the Japanese government manufactured katana-like swords for officers to use as badges of office. It's literally all for face culture and an attempt to forge a stronger national identity by linking to their past. Nobody cared about katanas for centuries at that point.>he thinks shin guntÅ are hand-forged katanas>I'm inheriting le looted family heirloomWould be the same if a Japanese man was excited to inherit a discarded bigmac wrapper, desu.
>>724856919>molds and regulation templatesAnon just leave this thread. If you can't understand why I've highlighted those 4 words, you are too stupid for your own good. Posting pictures doesn't make your retardation right.
>>724857051Concession accepted, I guess.
>>724856919>using molds and regulation templates>sophisticated feats of engineering that allow you to copy and paste a tool that lasts and functions well for half a century>crude>You mean the perspective that's relevant today? Yes, that's the point.Absolutely not. It's also only a perspective shared by uneducated people. I like how you had to cherrypick a single sword pattern from an entire 1000+ year catalog of different designs for your point to even resemble something that makes sense.
>>724857180Anon, making swords from molds NEVER worked well. They're fucking fragile and break easily when you do that.
>>724857224I was trying to point out how his argument doesn't make sense internally. It's obviously wrong for other reasons, but yeah.
>>724841506Stealth archer.
>>724857180>sophisticated engineering = sophisticated weaponAn iron girder also involved similar engineering but I'd never consider one sophisticated.>I like how you had to cherrypick a single sword patternI don't know what you're talking about since I didn't actually mention a single sword pattern, especially as the one I posted was pre-pattern of a form found throughout European navies of the 18th century. >>724857224Anon, if you don't understand the context, don't get involved in the discussion.
>>724856996>The reason katanas were even available as loot in WW2 was because the Japanese government manufactured katana-like swords for officers to use as badges of officeThis is true.>Nobody cared about katanas for centuries at that point.This is not. While katanas had fallen out of style in favor of European-style sabers, that had been for a period of less than 50 years. Switching to sabers was a political move during the Meiji restoration aimed at reducing the political influence of the old land-owning class in favor of restoring the power of the emperor. During their westernization they ditched katanas to both cut off connections to the samurai-supported aristocracy in order to appear more "modern".Katanas came back during the Showa period (I think), which is also when a lot of the modern version of "Bu(ll)shido"comes from .
As the one who originally made a post about electrified rapiers, I deeply regret bringing it up.
>>72484150620 Int, 20 Tech, 20 Body netrunner with smart guns and mono-wire
>>724841506ugly bastard + rebecca mod for secs
>>724841506How do Cyberpunk fans feel about Wuthering Waves becoming canon to your game's universe? How do you feel about Mike Pondsmith selling out to gacha?
