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ok I admit it, I was wrong. It's pretty Kino
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gift me the game then, shill
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>game about survival against robots
>everyone just shoots you on sight and camps the extraction
Shit game. It should be strictly multiplayer pve. The community will ruin the game.
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It's pretty alright for an arcadey babies first extractor but thats about it. Refunded
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>>724847309
This game is dead soon and that's a good thing.
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Why is everyone pretending like this one extraction game did something so crazy woaoooooww wacky over all the others, literally what makes it different? Nobody can tell me that, it just looks like another looting walking simulator
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extraction shooters are as gay as battle royales
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they really need to give you more incentives to kill other players.
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I don't understand why they don't make a PVE game. Every fucking PVE game is 4 player slop. A 50 player PVE lobby would be actually something new.
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>ACK Raiders
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/v/ is so out of touch these days it's insane
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>>724847309
>only way to avoid cheaters is to play on PS5 with crossplay off
lol at not just extraction slop but the entire genre of shooters, including co-op ones where PC players "mod" the game to "make the crosshair better"

>>724848215
Dark and Darker tried a PvE mode and apparently players would rush to the spots that had the best loot while blocking other players, running monsters into others and just being annoying fags
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>>724848215
Casual friendslop players want games where they get to loot in peace as friends for 15 minutes then go gank "timmies" when they're ready
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>>724848304
>Slack-jawed nigger is the only one who doesn't get it
who's really out of touch faggot
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>>724848480
sounds like they just slapped a pve mode onto an existing game instead of designing for one from the ground up? modern warfare zombies had a pve mode that was actually pretty epic. it had the full lobby take on giant world bosses and loot was client side.
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>>724847309
i thought the same thing
once you get around level 20 the quests go to absolute dogshit
>do all this shit in one round
>none of it counts to your teammates
>if your teammate grabs one of the quest items neither of you can complete it
i was literally praising them to my friends saying its great how most quests are team objectives
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>>724848215
because there is no tension in a pve game, and collaboration is meaningless if the rules of the game force you to collaborate

its much more meaningful when a bunch of people who CAN murder each other chose not to, in order to work together against the actual threat
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>>724848215
pve games are for uncs that can't handle pvp
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>>724848683
>because there is no tension in a pve game
every mmo ever would like a word
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>>724847685
moment to moment gameplay feels good, sound design is top shelf, enemy AI is uniquely hostile and scary + NPCs are always safisfying to take out due to cool drone physics, narrative matches the extraction gameplay loop and encourages roleplaying, proximity chat yields cool little cozy social interactions
i'm not entirely sold on the loot aspect but there's a lot to like, and i'm far more likely to boot it up for a few runs than i am a battle royale or hades-like
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>>724848673
>do all these things in 1 round
adds actual tension and sense of accomplishment IMO, a whole trek and an adventure you have to finish in one go has a lot more way to fuck up than showing up somewhere with a free kit and flicking a switch
accomplishing the quests is also much easier with a full real kit since you can handle some adversity

it's good design, just not for people who think they should be able to naked run all the content in the game
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>>724848730
everyone has done that already
imagine WoW but anyone can pvp each other, but they still come together to do a raid, and at the end of the raid when the loot is on the ground, you have to decide if you're going to have honor and spread the loot out, or fight over it

its just way more intense and meaningful having that layer of realistic interaction available, and not gated by some arbitrary game setting that says you're not allowed to shoot some other guy because you're supposedly on the same side

and yes, cowards hate the sandbox with no rules, because they want authority to shield them from harm rather than using their wits and skill and own charisma to talk to people and work together, or at least co-exist
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>>724848683
>there is no tension in a pve game
Once in a blue moon I'll play Diablo on hardcore, there's plenty of tension. All of these extraction shit games are just a lighter version of that, where you lose your gear instead of your whole character.

Then there's the whole Duckov argument, if nobody wants PvE extraction shit then why did that game sell so many copies?

https://kotaku.com/theres-a-damned-good-reason-escape-from-duckov-has-sold-a-million-copies-in-a-week-2000638588
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>>724848870
>imagine WoW but anyone can pvp
thats already been done and everyone hates it so no one plays on those servers
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>>724847619
The number is still going up. Eventually it will go down, but since it is pay to play it will still have been a huge success for the dev. Are you assmad because your shitbox can't play it or because you can't keep up with what might be the slowest PvP game in existence?
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>>724848929
so go play your boring pve trash and slay your dragons then lil cucky, nobody is stopping you
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I'm too old to aim properly so I'd rathe just watch highlights that get posted here
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>>724848870
>at the end of the raid when the loot is on the ground, you have to decide if you're going to have honor and spread the loot out, or fight over it
Sounds like shit for unemployed people who don't respect their own time.
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>>724847309
marathon is more fun
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>>724848929
>thats already been done
No, nobody has made a WoW server with open PvP inside of the raids. In this game all the battling vs the largest robots takes place in the game world and people can choose to interfere and try and murder you, or participate and try to bring down the robot.

You have open proximity voice chat and emotes you can use to talk to people you meet and try to convince them to work together.

It's an authentic, emergent experience that your scripted MMO encounters cannot hope to reproduce.
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>>724847685
I think it's the third person perspective and quick gameplay loop that's a lot more palatable for normies, especially console players. I'm having a lot of fun with the game myself but generally prefer FPS.
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>>724848978
kek you're a fucking shill and arc raiders looks like dogshit. 30k reviews on steam. game flopped so hard you have to shill it on 4chan in the hopes it doesn't end up like other nexxon dead dogshit
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>>724848993
no it sounds like what a multiplayer video game should be, not an authoritarian prison system that restricts what players can do and how they can act

getting shit done in this game feels like you actually earned it because you risked your time and equipment in an actually threatening situation

>>724849084
If marathon is fun then why does everybody seem to hate it?
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>>724849147
you hating fun isn't my problem lil cucky
I've had an unexpectedly amazing time with this game
you go enjoy tarkov """"1.0"""" though, everyone can tell you're just a salty vodkapidor angry that AR is slurping up all the noobs you were hoping to farm with your fake release of your ancient decaying dogshit
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>>724849257
Not him, I played the most recent test and I genuinely don't understand the hate. It plays like a souped up The Cycle, which I can understand is less than most people expect from Bungie but if you listen to autists on here talk about it you'd think Bungie raped their mother in front of them. It's not close to being as polished as Arc Raiders though, definitely not ready for release. That said the lore and setting is cool as hell and I hope they don't drop it like Bazz's game.
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topkek at the WoW argument
the only thing keeping WoW on life support in social media are hardcore streamers, who only play hardcore because its ....you guessed it...the only game mode with actual consequences and meaning, and lets you form actual attachments with people since the world carries risk

having shit on the line makes games more interesting, once you get over your initial stress and apprehension towards that idea, you will find yourself having a much more satisfying and emotional experience with the game that isn't just pure skinner box dopamine grinding
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>>724849147
Why are you just picking arbitrary numbers to support your incorrect foregone conclusion?
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>>724848215
nigga those kind of games suck. Remember Defiance? I dont understand how autists can call extraction shooters slop when they keep making it clear the just want pseudo mmo number slop with no real challenge
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The sound design is great. Keeps you paranoid
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>>724847432
90% of players are friendly from my experience.

>>724847685
it's just a more casual tarkov with pve. ergo a lot more people can enjoy it.
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>>724850747
Where are you playing? In euros I've met two players in maybe 6 hours of playing that didn't shoot me as soon as they spotted me (usually long after I spotted them).
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>>724850983
america. i guess europeans are just niggers. literally everyone is friendly. to the point where it gets kind of boring. if anything i'm becoming the nigger now just to do something besides filling my pockets with junk and extracting 10 minutes after i join.
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>Retarded nigger teammate opens fire on a group of hornets and wasps
>I join in
>Leaper jumps in front of ME out of nowhere and fucks me up
>Other nigger teammate revives him first instead of me

I hate niggers
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>join match
>someone marks a dome
>grab electric cables, a battery and moss
>someone pings an elevator
>19:34 minutes remainging
>wait for the elevator
>RETURNED TO SPERANZA

I dont get this genre. This happens about 7/10 matches.
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>>724848870
>charisma
has no place in video games, never did and never will.
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How long before Fortnite attempts an extraction mode
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You faggots shilled The Finals too. Fuck y'all.
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>>724854641
Tencent has brutal online marketing. Look at BG3.
Chinese don't have concepts like "business honor to foreigners".
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>>724851862
>>724854121
Are you two retarded? Just play solo instead of filling your squad up with randoms.
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>>724854761
Solo is boring because the shooting and movement mechanics are intentionally heavy.
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>>724854836
The fuck is it even supposed to mean?
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>>724847309
Looks gay as hell
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>>724854962
It means sonny jim that the movement is intentionally heavy so that the player can't overwhelm the enemy AI, like in survival horror games.

So, billy boy. that's what that means. Any other questions captain jack?
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>>724855042
You're not supposed to overwhelm the enemy AI.
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>>724847309
The game is mid, only fun in a 3 man
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TICK TOCK SWEDETARDS
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>>724855160
lets 3 man and you help me jerk off between rounds then
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Its friendslop or "streamer-core" tarkov. Practically designed to farm voip moments. Only way im playing this is if my friend group decides to buy it.
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>want to play duo with bro
>duos share lobbies with trios
gay
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>>724855224
>1.0 wasn't released years ago
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>>724848683
>there is no tension in a pve game
L4D, Helldivers, Mech Warrior, every horde shooter, co-op wave defense modes in numerous FPS games...



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