THIRD PARTY TRADING WEBSITES ARE GETTING FUCKED
>>724848882Kinda based.
Invest on COVID 2 from here on out. It' s sanctionless anyway.
>>724848882another dozen dead chinks coming up
>>724848882>is as good as scammingMaybe don't spend thousands on a gay CSGO knife you retard.
>>724848882SOMEONE PLEASE SUE VALVE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE THIS HAS TO BE ILLEGAL
>>724848882>sell knife to third party for cash>reverse tradelollmaoits so overglad i sold all my cs skins during that recent surge
>>724848882Holy fuck, Steam is winning bigly lately.Still not leaving 7 tho.
>>724848882Based Gaben putting these retards in theor place.
based only daddy gaben gets to have an unregulated marketplace
>>724848882>Trade knife for 20 gun skins or smth I don't know the economy>Both leave happy >If one of then reverse it, so what? You get your stuff back and didn't lose anything>If one of you got scammed, the victim gets their stuff back and only scammer losesThis only hurts liars and those who take advantage of others, right?
>>724849112The ones who will get absolutely arse raped by this are people who monetary transactions off Steam to back the trade on Steam. So third party gambling and trading websites.
>>724849001Unless there's absolutely no time limit on the whole thing (which is kinda retarded unless it's an extreme case like hacking) third parties will just act like escrow services
>>724849112i dont think theyre talking about trading in items only.
will this cause another wave of suicides?
>>724848882I got hacked like 10 years ago and had the stuff from my inventory taken from me. Even then Steam support reversed it for me and I got it back
TRADETARDS BTFO
>>724848882>>724849001whats stoping me from duing an chargeback with my bank
>>724849459
>>724848882Steam on a rampage lately, almost everyone's getting fucked in the ass in some form.
>>724848882>AS good as scammingesl alert l0l
>>724849578>I will not be putting money into skins againSteam is healing
>>724849578Didn't even think of that, haha get absolutely fucked
>>724848882Lets get this out of the way>Mfw im not the fucking retard that invested stocks into a fucking videogame skin market
>>724849578>it benefit ME! WHY DID I DRAW THE SHORT END OF THE STICK>I DEFS WOULDN'T HAVE CRIED AND ASKED FOR A REFUND IF IT WENT THE OTHER WAY!!!
>>724849578He's right, that IS infact retardedGaben should also quadruple their game refund windows if they think that trade reversal is a good thing
Good Fuck all "investors"Its a fucking game not a stock market
Valve is so based. YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
>>724849697
>>724849529The fact that you'll get your precious steamtroon account banned, your phone number and credit card blacklisted from the platform
fuck tradefagsget a job
>>724849868>panties
>>724849578>prices are upWas the crash overhyped? Was hoping for it to go to zero, please don't tell me everything went back to normal.
>>724849112People hand over money on external sites then make a trade on Steam for a symbolic price.
>>724849459>>724849578Tradetroon suffering just makes the game better.
>>724849112>If one of then reverse it, so what? You get your stuff back and didn't lose anythingYou lost your timeDo you also defend shitty games that demand you to compile shaders every single launch for some fucking reason?
>>724848882>>724848956And /v/ tells me Gaben is the bad guy. I don't get it.
>>724848882God Bless Zyklon Gabe
>>724848882this is old news, pretty sure it's been a few weeks now already.
>>724850420>I could've scammed some dumb kids for $8k why did you let them revert my scam aaaaahhhhhh fuck you gabe
>>724850420Kikes getting outkiked will never not be funny. The feature is a net positive for steam and basically puts an end to insider hoarding and trading
>>724849001>glad i sold all my cs skins during that recent surgesure you did, bud
>>724850490it doesn't chud, people just wait until the threshold for trade reversals has passed before handing you your money.
Maybe treating pixels in a video game as serious investments is not that smart after all.
>>724850420>The marketSo much condensed stupidity and faggotry in one post. I cant even
I don't get it, is the idea that it makes selling skins on 3rd party sites too unreliable because you can just trade back? So then if you want to sell your skins you have to do it on the steam market for steam funbux so valve isn't missing out on their transaction tax?
>>724850420remember when you used a forum to sell items in the market in a MMO and it all stayed in game? I remember
>>724850702it's because kids keep getting scammed and they're tired of dealing with it.third party sites just wait to give you your money now, the time for reversing trades is limited (iirc like 7 days).
>>724849112It's funny seeing obviously bad people try to paint it as a negative thing. It's like listening to a robber say home security systems are bad.
>MY FUCKING INVESTMENT>"""""I'M""""" THE ONE BEING SCAMMED HERE
>>724850160>get a jobAnon...
>>724848882More "investors" crying soon?
>>724848882>honest>merchantpick one
>>724849697CompleteVideogame .png marketSaturation
>>724848882based gaben killing offsite trading for money
>>724848882India genocide
>>724850227Skins are up and knives are way down
>>724848882What happens if one party doesn't have the items to reverse the trade?
>>724851176it's not tied to items, you just go through trade history or whatever on your steam account.>>724851142high end knives are doing fine chud.
>>724850065Why? isn't the payment on third party websites not steam?
>>724850065You don't understand how this works.
>>724849001>trading extended to freeze items for a week to wait out reversal windowyou ain't getting shit faggot
>>724849459>dream knife for yearsI can't imagine living a life where a video game cosmetic is that important
>>724848882Just don't strike deals outside of Steam, what's the issue Will it impact your online casino bullshit?
>>724851176I doubt you can further trade the items before the last trade hasn't fully completed
>>724850420This is like what Germany did before WW2NOT a good look for Valve AT ALL
>>724850160sure, get me one and i'll work for peanuts
>nowthis has been active for over a month now
Anyone now complaining about trade reversals is a vulture who bought during the dip and has no principles on the matter beyond their own ability to exploit market panic
>>724849206How is that Valves problem? You shouldn't be using some 3rd party website to try and gamble/sell shit on Steam anyway.
>>724851539It's reddit cope speechTranslation: I'm mad because I couldn't keep the item long enough to profit
>>724849206Yes, but that still wont stop retards from claiming Valve is cultivating those third parties and somehow profiting from them.They'll just keep saying Valve never tried to combat them at all.
>>724850251There's no symbolic price, you can trade as much as you want between accounts without fees.
>>724852039They have always been profiting from them.Off-site trades mean more liquid trade capital with lower fees, which means higher price hiking. Larger prices for items drive crate and key sales.
>>724850380gork, quantify the lost time
>>724851951Its a fucking market dumbass, imagine the same logic with stocks "Uhmm, sorry, now that the prices recovered I will buy back my 2 billions of stocks :)))" How braindead are you people? I dont give a shit, never sold anything, but this is clearly a fucking retarded thing to implement.
>>724852263>comparing skins market to stocksLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>724852039Valve always implicitly let this shit happen, because they wanted more money to go into their ecosystem. There are clearly ways to get around such behavior. For example by simply not allowing people to trade. Why would you need to trade in the first place? The only reason why they allow trading is to make people buy more keys and unlock more crates because the more engagement you have the more people will see value in it. If you banned trading altogether there would hardly be any incentive to even keep spending money.
>>724852337Its a market dumb fuck. A market is a market. You gonna decide what is more respectable? Options trading is way more degenerate and morally questionable than skin trading.
I love it, seems like retards have started to see how its in the real world, if you pay someone in a back halley with cash instead on getting a receipt.Or even worse, if you get a receipt with one dollar because the rest was hidden like a retard and now the guy says "yeahhh no I changed my mind, here back your dollar"
Is this only for knife trades or also for steam balance?
>>724852263>>724852395NOOOOOO MY FAKE MONERINONOT MY SCAMMERINOS
>>724852350>I want less freedoms because there's people who will exploit itClassic. Mabye if people don't want their children to gamble they shouldn't approve them $400 of wallet funds a month
No this is only for CS2 item related trades
>>724848882Oh, maybe it's my fault
>>724852350>Why would you need to trade in the first place?because it encourages crate collecting and the sale of keys, duh
>>724849697These faggots are having a hard time realizing that Gabe doesn't want people to use CS2 as a stock market?
tradermains should be put in ground
>>724852395Clearly Valve don't want this market to exist.
>Its a market dumb fuck. A market is a market
>>724852784This. Steam is a platform for buying and playing video games, not running some gay ass gambling business
>>724852603Literally what I said dumbfuck>>724852528If valve wanted to inhibit third party trading and "stockmarkets" they would not allow trading. But they want their cake and eat it too. Now they are fucking over the people who want to decide what to do with their money. Weird how freedumbs only apply to companies.
>>724852263>imagine if stocks
>>724852884A black market that they receive no profits from.
>Yeah, I just reversed all trades. So what?
>>724852263It's not a stock market lmao. What this change does is fuck over scammers and gambling sites which is a good thing.
>>724853096They do receive profits from it one way or another because it is extremely easy to tell that people would not be spending so much on their shitty crates and keys if they knew that there would be no way to cash out.
>>724853145>Nooo, you cant have unregulated markets, everything you do must be overseen by the US government or a billion dollar corporation!!!!!!!!!
>>724853262>tranimebob
>>724853262get fucked skincel LOL
>>724853262>steam market has prohibited selling skins for real cash since day 1>valve starts taking steps to enforce this>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT WHAT ABOUT THE FREE MARKET
I was concerned that this would allow people to revert trades whenever they get a slightly higher offer, but apparently whoever initiates the reversal can't trade the returned items again for another 30 days.
>2006: an heroing over ipods>2025: an heroing over fake knives
https://www.reddit.com/r/csgomarketforum/comments/1omhuxb/d_the_knife_tradeup_patch_spiked_steam_market/Friendly reminder Valve has made $50 million in community market fees since they added knife trade-ups. They know what they're doing.
>>724849459>without a doubt its copiumWhen someone uses words like "copium" its hard to ever consider they're being serious, but I think he is. And that's crazy since he's mixed up reason and delusion completely. The cope is that the pixels are worth something, not that they aren't. Poor man, hate to see it.
>>724853349ayo where my 15% at cuh
Out of curiosity I looked at twatch CS2 streams- most of them are retards not even playing the game but sitting in their inventory, gushing over what skins they have.
>>724848882>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CAN'T SCAM LITTLE KIDS OUT OF THEIR PARENTS' MONEY ANYMORE! STOP FUCKING WITH MY BUSINESS VALVE!!!!!
>>724853349Good.
>>724853262You're retarded
>be chinese or russian>put faith and money in something american>it fucks you over so much you kill yourself
>>724853467as if it wasn't valve scamming kids out of their money for offering skinnerboxes in the first placecorporate bootlickers like you sicken me
>>724850413Bad people hate whoever punishes or hinders them. Think of drug users, like weed addicts. Try and talk about how they're financing criminals and how weed is actually terrible for their brain, and they'll call you the bad guy
>>724852991>>724853262>It's a stock market! Why else would Valvr implement a system that let you exchange a skin you dont want for a skin you do?!?!not everything is or needs to eb about money. This is why people say you kikes are godless materialistic heathens
>>724853514You can smell a third worlder from this post
>>724853514Valve aren't the ones selling skins for 500 bucks.Besides, you're brown.
Good, skinfags ruined CSGO
>>724853349many knives already went back up and out of steam market again. they need to try harder.
>>724853557>>724853565>excusing lootboxesyou're not human
>>724853467This is the most braindead take. Every kid who unboxes this shit has access to the internet and will literally look at google first thing after unboxing. If they still sell it for a huge discount its on them desu. You think children should be coddled from every single fucking experience? They arent supposed to be outside anymore because of dogs, niggers and cars and now they also cant even learn about markets and buying and selling? Fuck off nigger.I never made a single cent off of any trade on steam, I am just fed up with you turd world bootlickers who gobble corpo cock.
>>724853590Stop being brown
>>724853631stop being a corporate stoogelootboxes have no place in video games
>>724853539>Valve doesnt care about money, they just do it so people can have their funsies! :DShut the fuck up you lobotomized niggerHow do you think they make billions each year? They sell hundreds of millions of items that literally do not exist and are tied to accounts that can be banned for saying "I dont like trannies". Shut THE FUCK UP Nigger
>>724853617you sound like the kind of guy who would trim armor in runescape
Are TF2 items affected by this?
>>724853617It's not about kids selling a skin for too cheap, it's about preventing scams and stopping third party websites from using steam as their marketplace for betting and shit. I don't really understand why people are so against a system that prevents people from jacking steam accounts to steal their inventories. Sure you shouldn't get scammed in the first place, but it's not like removing the ability to scam people is bad at all.
>>724853698Sorry unc I have never played your Y2K dicksucking simulator
>>724848994here https://www.sec.gov/enforcement-litigation/whistleblower-program
>>724853590I can agree that lootboxes are a shit anti-consumer practice while also thinking that those who sell skins for hundreds of dollars deserve the death penalty.You see, thanks to my superior white brain, I can have a multitude of beliefs which don't contradict each other.
>>724853730The fuck? How are you going to get back your items if you let scammers steal your account? Its over at that point. Maybe if you get access again (and dont bank on it, these valve niggers are not exactly helpful), yeah, but w/e I am done with the valve dicksucking
>>724853730get rid of lootboxes and keys. that will kill 3rd party websites
>>724848882Casino always wins, baby
This is going to vaporize the rest of the CS market lol
>any game has ability to trade anything in any capacity>traderfags immediately turn it into stock market liteGet fucked lmao, go play the stocks or shitcoins or whatever. Not vidya.
>>724853786Ah yes people who make money on stuff you dont condone deserve the death penalty, while the companies who create this virtual nothingness and peddle it to kids and easily manipulated people are heroes who deserve a shrine, you are totally a healthy individual and not a massive psychopath cumbucket.
>>724848882>something goodno...no!....
>>724853812The usual scam is them trading away your inventory, you don't lose access to your account. So I don't really get what you're so upset about that some third worlder can't steal shit from people anymore via steam
So I can sell something for steambux, but later cuck the guy by giving him his money back?
>>724853617>children learn about markets and buying and selling from the experience of being scammed by chinks in a videgamelivestream it when you take the final step
>>724853617>nooo stop protecting kids from criminalslmao this guy
>>724853889How would they trade away your inventory if you dont click links to shifty sites or hand over your password? There is literally a fucking 2FA with your phone if you want to trade nowadays. I have to fucking 2FA when I give someone a weapon in TF2 (worth 0,001 cents)
>>724853941Yeah, how do you think you learn about being scammed? By being scammed dumbfuck nigger.>>724853954Whats with the amerimutts and the kids all the time? Think about muh kids muh kids muh kids, stfu, as if you niggers give a fuck about anyone's kids. You hate everyone.
>>724853965That's what is happening and this change now gives the ability to rollback the whole thing. People fall for dumb shit because they are dumb. Now with the change third worlders can no longer get money out of this unless the user being scammed is extra retarded.
>>724853954You don't give a single fuck about children. You don't give a single fuck about adults either. Nobody is buying you lame ass attempts to get on some moral high horse.
>>724853692>How do you think they make billions each year?What do I care? In fact, Valve doing this is going to cost them those billions as more vermin that use this "market" to make money like you neck yourselves.
>>724854009>Yeah, how do you think you learn about being scammed? By being scammed dumbfuck nigger.You also learn to avoid getting hit by trains by getting hit by a train
>>724849459>iampangdoesn't that nigga make popular tekken videos? lol
>>724854009>Yeah, how do you think you learn about being scammed? By being scammed dumbfuck nigger.HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>724850420Based. I'm tired of grifters making money out of nothing
>>724854063Its the same "argument" that these unelected pedo-officials have who tell you that its in your best interest that you have 0 privacy and no freedom of speech and that google and apple SHOULD analyze every single text and photo on your phone because of terrorists and if people say "Well but they call Palestinians terrorists while Israel is genociding them" then you hit them with "think of the child pornography! We have to save the children!!!" >>724854063
>>724854009>Yeah, how do you think you learn about being scammed? By being scammed dumbfuck nigger.Right sure. You're not a subhuman seething that you're losing easy marks, no. You're worried that the poor innocent chikdren will miss out on the vital life lesson of losing money to your nonsense
>>724854183Unlike valve and other digital "content" niggers who make money selling endlessly available bits of code.Just admit that you love it when rich people scam others but you hate it when normal people get that chance too.
>>724850420>illegal black markets will now crash because of thisgaming is healing
>>724854009>suddenly americaI can't be american for I am not brown.>Yeah, how do you think you learn about being scammed? By being scammed dumbfuck nigger.Yeah, by getting scammed out of your first gold in WoW, not hundreds of IRL buckaroos.>>724854063You're right, I'm just happy to know third world scum are killing themselves over this.
valve is doing this for 2 reasonsunavoidable gambling and microtransaction laws in EU and also no longer being reliant on economies in their games since just being a digital storefront already brings them massive amounts of money every month way overreaching the upkeep costs and only reason these games are being kept up is because they have employees that specifically do work on themI also heard the argument of trying to keep the economy entirely in their own ecosystem, steam market to be precise but not quite sure about it since trading is still an option no matter how risky it is right now
>>724854217NIGGER HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT?!?!! I HAVE NOT EVER TRADED ANY ITEM, I HAVE NEVER USED ANY THIRD PARTY IVENTORY SHIT WEBSITE. I SIMPLY HATE YOUR PATHETIC ASS ARGUMENTS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT CHILDREN.
>>724849459>all my knives gone
>>724848882>reverting trades after striking a deal is as good as scammingUhhh why? You just get your money back, and they get their item back......
>>724854282Sure buddy, you are just raging over this change out of the kindness of your heart and not because it affects your bottom line
>>724854258Who the fuck has 100s of bucks invested in a game item if they arent part of that fucking ecosystem in the first place? And if this hypothetical kid unlocked a crate and somehow got an item worth 500 bucks then to the kid it is still only worth 2.5 and not 500 unless said kid is also a fucking trader you dumb FUCKING NIGGER APE! Your logic doesnt work out at all.
>>724854340Bro just shut the fuck up. I dont need you to believe, you unwashed faggot
Why is valve so sino- and russophobic?
>>724854080>we have unironic valve shills ittyou're as scummy as the knife sellers. kill yourself
>>724854434I wish niggerRussians keep mic spamming their pathetic third world slav propaganda about their monkey lord putin
>>724849578Honestly this sounds like an opportunity for someone to make good money. Someone could probably set up as a middleman broker, taking some kind of commission fee, where they hold onto the money after the trade until the reversal time limit is up and then disburses it when the trade is fully finalized by the end of the reversal period. Of course if people start setting that sort of service up there will be just as many shitty scammers waiting to rugpull it hard, but if someone built up a good enough reputation doing it honestly it could make them a good bit of money. Not that this would be a new idea or anything obviously, since it's a classic commerce thing already.
>>724854467I was playing on 2fort in TF2 yesterday and some russian kept micspamming radio songs from like 2 decades agoIt was comfy
>>724851984>How is that Valves problem?trades done on external sites won't make Valve any revenue.
>>724854457>If you dont care about Valve's finances or how the skins marketplace can be exploited to make money, you're an unironic valve shill and as scummy as the knife sellers that exploit the skins marketplace to make moneyCome on faggot, Im sure you've saved enough money to buy a length of rope
Dude if I bought a game and they sent me, like, a login link to a different steam account, I'd be hella mad
>>724854342Trading an item worth hundreds for pennies because the person you're buying it from doesn't know better is the definition of a scam, brown boy.
>>724853938Sort of. If you sell it for 5 steam funbux but then the next day it starts going for 6 funbux, you can reverse it, giving back the 5 funbux, so you can instead sell for 6 funbux. This part runs fairly smooth. However tards playing stonks with skins have been selling them off steam for government funbux instead of steam funbux, and because it's third party steam can't give the funbux back since steam never had the funbux, but can give the skin back when the reversal kicks in leaving the guy who paid 5 chinese funbux for a skin without his funbux or the skin.
>>724852263It's an unregulated grey market.
>>724849609>Steam on a rampage latelyVisa/MC made them angry. I bet that's all a revenge plan
>>724854643>>If you dont care about Valve's financesyou do care about valve's profits. otherwise you wouldn't be defending them you cocksucker
>>724854764that's not what scam means pablo
>>724848882This could be worked around by having the third party sites hold the skins and money for 7 days, no?
>>724854241>selling endlessly available bits of code.I love how you're putting something that required actual work behind at the same level as someone else just selling png for thousands of dollars with the click of a button.cope more bitch.
>>724854963>worked around by having the third party sites hold the skins and money for 7 days, no?yes, but that generates volatility, which is exactly what valve wants
>>724850065This isn't true at all.I chargebacked Helldivers 2 and I only got store purchase restrictions for a couple weeks.
>>724854764Ok so your logic is that everyone who trades is a scammer anyway? Because if this """kid""" is trading their item away for cheap then it means they were scammed but if they trade it for the appropriate price they were the skincel nigger scammer themselves? And what would you say an arbitrage deal is? For example buying some kind of product for cheap, knowing you can sell it to someone else for 20x the money? Also a scam? I think the fundamental problem we have at this point is that youre just a retard who doesnt know anything about finances let alone trading goods. Therefore everyone is a scammer and all the others are victims to your kid-like mind.
>>724848882Gaben is really out for third worlder blood, isn't he?
>>724849459Yeah but these are the opposite of tradetards, no? They bought knives with their own money for their own use, and tried to buy the dip.Scamming aside, with the reversal it's no longer possible to buy the dip. If the market goes down and then bounces back up tradetards can just instantly reverse everything and avoid any losses.Remember, the end goal of a tradetard is to sell a skin to a normie wanting to use the shiny expensive knife, for an inflated price that no other tradetard would pay because it won't make profit. They buy cheap, cycle around, and always try to exit high. Yes there's obviously trading between themselves going on speculating on prices but the ultimate cashout is always paid for by normies.So what this does is make sure that people who just want to buy a skin NEVER get a good deal, and the tradetards can always reap the highest price the market gets within a one-week period, with zero risk.
Protip: both CS and TF2 were better games when they had no loot and skins.
>>724854990Do you get access to this supposed png for 0 effort and 0 cost, you dumbfuck retard nigger brained incel turdlicking valve cocksucker?
>>724849697Maybe this is one step for the right direction to reverse the 2020 damage
>>724855076absolutely based gaben
cool down period exists irl too after which the deal become irrevocable
Can you now just loan the skins by buying one, playing with it and then reversing the trade?
>>724852784>>724852952Then shouldn't he just kill it altogether? Don't pretend that all this shit doesn't just give Gaben more money.I fucking hate valve apologizers man
>>724854871>If you're in favor of Valve killing their "market" that makes them billions and driving the chinks that abuse it to suicide then you care about their finances and defend them!fucking LMAO
>>724855215I would much rather give Gaben my money than some Russian gambling site
>>724848882It's only scamming if you include outside funds/itemsWhich is something valve does not endorse.Reversing a trade literally gives people the things they traded back within steam, nothing is lost or "scammed"If you're going through dodgy 3rd party sites to trade items for money then welcome to the real world, people have been "scamming" others on ebay since the 2000's with paypal
>>724855109Said effort is a fraction of labour required to create your "bits of code".Cost is a laughing matter since it's actually an investment with the hope of getting more money back from a pretend stock market.
>>724850413I don't care about Gabe, but the reason /v/ ever tells you anything is to raise your blood pressure.
>>724848882How does this affect me if I'm not brown?
I don't get it, my old ass inventory went from 50€ to 500€, this is great
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ALL MY PNGS
>>724849529SAAR YOU MUST NOT BE DUING THE CHARGEBACK
>>724855413Oh, sorry, they should have adressed the FCC prior to trading for the "totally useless and degenerate skins" I guess, because then this market would be totally valid and worthy of your esteem, right? I thought all traders deserve death, suddenly they should just invest in the real stock market? What about bitcoin? should satoshi have just created the bitcoin llc and applied for a public stock offering so that people could buy bitcoin through the totally valid and legit stock market? Why do you niggers always love to bootlick so much? Can people not create their own value based systems and beliefs?
>>724848882SAR I ALREADY REDEEM THE PURCHASE YOU CANNOT REDEEM IT BACK!!!! DO NOT REDEEM
>sell $500 worth of skins>if it doesn't go down refund the trade before max period>sell it for $500 againIsn't this just a guarentee my skins can't go down from their current price?
baggies still coping huh
>never give a fuck about skins or gambling skins or whatever the fuck>somehow have a skin I can sell on some 3rd party site for like 3k in my inventory>oh nice, just gotta wait 15 days for steam guard on my account? Well i hate two factor shit but its a free 3k i didnt know I had so its worth>see this nowI dont give a FUCK about skins I just want my money you faggots
>>724855667>sell knife>wait 7 days for escrow>money clearsno. it just adds volatility
>>724853349Ultimately they want every deal to be contained within the steam ecosystem. This reversal feature only punishes people that circumvent the system by paying someone directly through paypal etc.
>>724852263cope, brown
>>724855568>FCCI think you meant the FTC but alright.>BTCs out of nowherelmao ok>Why do you niggers always love to bootlick so much?I'm just glad scammers are getting fucked, that's all. I don't care that much about Gabe.>Can people not create their own value based systems and beliefs?Maybe before doing that they could've thought better than invest in a market that can tank their prices with no repercussion because someone at Valve can decide to change the market rules.
>>724855568>Can people not create their own value based systems and beliefs?Not in counter strike LOL
Skins went back upAverage person got little richer as value trickled down/v/ mad
>>724855764>I dont care about this scammer market for browns and subhumans>but give me "my money" (I unboxed a random item 10 years ago and I deserve it) >fuck the traders tho, but let me cash out first!!!!nigger brain gibsmedat mentalityyoure part of the market or youre notwithout this market your item wouldnt be worth shit>>724856028I already state before, dont give a fuck, risk reward, free markets, I just hate people who suck valve / corpo / government cock whenever people get fucked only for these institutions to profit off of it. I would not fucking park 5 k or even 500 usd in this shit market, but I also think its not an heroic deed by valve. valve doesnt do it for muh kids or muh consumers or shit like that, they do it for themselves, which is okay, but doesnt need anyone applauding it
>>724856201>Average person got little richerI know fat gabe accounts for like 10 people but just because he made billions it doesn't mean the average guy got richer
>>724856201yeah they got steam richer, third party is deadenjoy those games you wont play
>>724856204>I already state before, dont give a fuckI never get tired of seeing poos drop the act and spew their mangled english when they get agitated enough
>>724849578valve should put their foot downallowing such blatant rmt market to exist is crazy
>>724856204thirdies getting btfo is always worth applauding
>>724856028more like sec
Good
>>724856265Lol, I went from 50 bucks of random crap to 500 bucks worth>>724856372Stay mad, I'm gonna sell everything and buy 10 games I'm gonna play
Why do they keep destroying their own platform. With the trading distrust, censorship and now this who even uses steam or can trust them?
>>724848882Nothing will change, unless you can reverse trades from literally years ago.They'll just make it so whatever you sell is "on hold" until the reverse timer expires.They made similar changes when they introduced the 7 day trading timer.
>>724851825So you can only "reverse a trade" if the trade hasn't been completed? How long does that take?
>>724849578>he buyed boughted the dipOHNONONONO
>>724856515Literally everyone, Timmy. Now go away, no one wants to use stinky EGS
>scammingyou just go back to how it started though
>>724854497All 3rd party trade sites already do this and have done this for years when items get locked down for a week
so can the buyer undo the trade too if the value goes down?
This is so bullshit. They’re literally attacking third party websites to horde all the money.
>>724849112taking advantage of others is the norm and has been for about 50 yearsthe days of virtuous society ended with global socioeconomic mobility
>>724854770They want to kill the gray market and this just might do it.
>>724848882Isn't this old and 3rd party websites adjusted for it.
>>724856717Yes this shit was implemented months ago and OPs posting old screencaps and replying to himself.
>>724856471>sell worthless (now less worthless) shit into steam marketyes thats the point, anyone hoping to put money in their bank however, I am laughing at, those people dont play games
>>724848882Holy basedMass scammers suicide
>>724849112Yes, this is based. Indians like >>724856701 have to get jobs now
>>724849001>third party now holds your money for a week instead of cashing you the money immediatelyretard
>>724856832the prices will crater even harder because even reversing (on either end) at the slightest sign in loss on either side will create too much friction, volatility will kill trading until its worth way less outside of the few exceptional items
Prices literally recoveredMedian price of items drastically increasedFor 90% of players their inventory went up in value
>>724850380>You lost your timeYes and?Your time is worthless anyway since you spend it in this shithole.
I don't get it. Isn't the point of skins to sjhow them off in a video game?
Won't affect actual video games.
>>724856960>what is liquidity
>>724850413filling Counter Strike with glowing pink weapon skins makes him the bad guy.
>>724856903Are you retarded? I hate pseuds like youYou realize this feature is 3+ months old, right?
>>724856384Killing the blatant RMT is exactly the point of this.
>>724857113yeah its been there for months, the trade-up has been there for a week. Market will bleed to death, retard.
>>724857067Outstanding, there's more interest than ever before in blue and purple skins
>>724849578Knives are shorts? Not sure if based or cringe.
>>724853835this, valve gets $0 when you sell your skins on 3rd parties. they gain $0 when skins increase in value because once their value gets over $2000 they can no longer be sold on the steam market.however, when you sell on the market, they get an immediate 15%, then the rest of the money has to be spent on steam where they take an even greater cut: 10-30% for games, another 15% if you buy more skins etc..
>>724857226and its all on steam marketplace
>>724856960this, most players who put money into the game, put only a few hundreds at most. my friend's knife lost 60% in value, but the rest of his inventory increased in value in such a way that he gained value. it's also increased liquidity on the steam market by a lot. i think valve did a good job a killing speculation which was literally killing the market because speculators don't even play the game.
>>724850218she has panties in official art. i think it's in the anime that they removed them
>>724848882billions of chinks must rope
>>724854770Doesn't seem like you can reverse steam market sales, only direct ones.
>>724856204I dont care about your gay ass market you dumb fag. I wanna sell my skin, then never think about this gambling subhuman shit again
>>724857496I hope you get scammed you nigger
>>724857485then it's useless. to prevent trade reversal hackers were selling your skins at really low prices, then using a bot to scalp them.that's why you periodically see items going for $0.05 when their normal prices are well over $400
>>724850380>You lost your timeYeah, and we shouldn't have traffic light either.Gosh, that's such a waste of time.Who need laws & orders anyway.
>thirdies roping>gray market on its deathbed>skins market (on steam) more alive than evertruly Gabe is mighty
>>724848882You can only reverse it for CS2 you nigger.
>>724848882>valve getting rid of the rampant scamming but more importantly the retarded speculation trading that has made the fanbase cringe and distracted from the actual gameFucking good. God damn I cant believe they would actually do something like this. Now people trade will for shit they actually want and can stop wasting their time with babies first speculative trading and get a job
>>724848882Based valve
>>724849529nothing but it will bankrupt the 3rd world 3rd party money laundering website that handles knife trades
>>724850413>microTRANS ACK tions>ingame tradesyeah
>>724849459>>724849578And I'm supposed to feel bad for these people and take their side in this? Lol. Lmao even.
>>724849112>Your knife is worth 200$>The skins are worth 200$>Trade happens and both parties are happy >Knife price goes down>Gun skins go up>Person you traded with is now unhappy >Reverts the trade after a week>You now have a knife that's worth 100$ and no longer have the gun skins which are now valued at 250>If you want these same skins that you already traded for you now have to trade an additional 150$ worth of shit alongside your knifeThis is not a hypothetical scenario by the way this happened. Item for item trades are less common because they're harder to find people for just some people had those trades reverted too
>>724850160anon countries like india and egypt have like 30% unemployment rate, or maybe closer to 60% if you don't count all the people working for free at their parents small business. only rich countries can afford to hand out fake jobs like software engineer and social worker
>>724853262>"I want an unregulated market but that is like protected from being rugpulled!"Only a brown could contradict himself like this.
>>724858342for good reason, theyre all functionally retarded
Look, this is obvious a good idea, but this is valve. They won't have it set up properly, scammers will sell stuff for money then reverse it, then valve will gimp it to uselessness and forget about it.
>>724858332>Trade happens and both parties are happyIf they actually were then neither would ask for a reversal.
>>724849206>So third party gambling and trading websitesThat's fucking genius holy shit.In one fell swoop you kill these sites, meaning all the chinks and jeets can't fucking use these games as a way to sustain themselves and thus pollute the player base.Years of constantly fucking up yet Steam finally does one thing right, I am beyond amazed they interrupted their streak of idiocy.
>>724858342Brazil is like that as well, those alternative markets like skin trade, clickwork, etc give us unique opportunities to have a decent life in our own countries where life is 100x harder than life on first world countries, we don’t have the government holding down our hands and giving us welfare for being unemployed here, we're left to starve on the streets and no one, not even the government gives a fuck. Now Gabe wants to take this away from us for no fucking reason, how does the skin market hurt Valve exactly? It doesn't, he just wants to spit on poor people trying to make a living. Don't complain when third worlders immigrate to your country then, you're literally taking away our opportunities to have a decent life in our own countries.
>>724853776yeah if you wanna be a blood stain in the street
>>724849459>>724849578Isnt it a video game?Why not just dupe the skins or mod them in?
>>724859337shit lives for shit people in shit countries, know your place
>>724848882This is probably because Valve really does not wanna deal with being involved in what could be considered assets.
>>724848882kek trade sites are so fucked from this
>>724859637nooses for narcissist
>>724859337The issue is that you aren't providing a real work or service or selling an actual product; you were speculating over an already wortless luxury item.
>>724859751im white, i can afford to be a narcissist online. My life doesn't depend on leeching off of aryan economics, i make the economicsnext is the firewall so we can be done with thirdies
>>724849206Makes sense, Valve probably wants nothing to do with it. They essentially created a sort of stock market for skins, from which a. valve gets no cut and much more importantly b. brings in a huge amount of headaches regarding regulation. Valve isn't stupid, and to be fair to them, putting so much money into a digital game item and then using that as a financial asset, was always gonna be extremely risky. People got too comfortable and forgot that at the end of the day it was always meant to be a game skin, not a stock.
>>724859337fix your country instead of scamming people online, shitskin
>>724859882>leeching off of aryan economicsnope its having the CIA control and impoverish other nations for cheap resources and labor
>>724859337I feel you, but the issue is this was always gonna be an extremely risky investment. Not because of the speculation but rather because you have a market that can easily be demolished and regulated by one company, given that its status as an investment market was essentially just a by product. Given the regulatory headache that it could cause Valve probably just went "nope"
Notice how it's always poor people celebrating these decisions?
>>724858332Just as I thought, its just russians and indians seething about third world economics.
>"You see, I live in a shithole country and thus can't have a real job that may improve my country somewhat. I HAVE to scam people online!"I am beginning to see why these countries are shitholes in the first place.
>>724848994Fuck you do it yourself.
>>724859561The mind of a collector is a very complicated thing.The important thing is not to own the item, its to show everyone else you do.
>>724860256>scroll up>poor hue posts about how he HATES this decisions>its always da poor who like dis guiseyou are beyond retarded
>>724849001>don't pay for virtual knife like a fucking retardWWWWWOOOOOOOWWWWW
Kek reminds me of rocket league. They just fucking removed trading alltogether.
>>724860256If you have investments in cs:go pixels you're poor as shit.
Will people now actually use skins ingame?
>>724860592Wait, they didn't even use them?
>>724855215>Then shouldn't he just kill it altogether?>NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CHANGE THE WAY TRADE WORKS IN THE GAME YOU CREATED NOOOO YOU MUST RESPECT MY MADE UP STOCK MARKETSeetheCopeand read the ToS
>>724859337you know when you describe me the usual low-trust zero-sum game zero-accountability mess that is life in the third world, it makes me wonder why you single out gabe as the person most morally obligated to provide livelihoods there. is it because he's supposed to have a better moral character than you, because he's white or something? desu i am not happy with the stuff that's happening in my country, but i think the 2 most responsible parties involved are my government and our people. so in that regard i don't see why third worlders don't also direct their discontentment towards their governments and people
holy shit bros what if someone reverses the purchase of one of my $0.05 cards? I'd have to put it for sale again, even just thinking about it makes me shudder
>>724860416>some racist thought a biased historywhy should i care?
Each time I enter one of those thread, I maniacally fap about every one seething about Valve, I love it, I love how mad all those gambling addicts are, hnnnnnnnghPlease get scammed more, please, lose all your money/skins, hnnnnnnnngh
>skin resellers getting fucked twice in a monthBased GabeN
>tfw Gaben has killed more chinks than Trump has
I'm enjoying total trader death as well, but there's a niggling feeling that all of this shit is some external entity putting pressure on valve and I'm hoping they aren't going to fuck over steam in some other way to make up for lost revenue.
>secure trades on Steam by protecting both parties>increase the likehood of a scam outside of Steam by making it very easy for item owners to back out from a trade after receiving the moneyTWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE
this is insanei guess that dipped knife i ended up not buying wouldve been taken away from me anyways
>>724861214At worst some idiot will think he has legal ground to sue Steam for ''illegally altering a stockmarket'' and some judge will slap him away telling him >its not a real stockmarket, keys are mostly traded outside of Steam of wich Valve has no control over nor responsibility>Valve is absolutely free in patching values and drops in their own gamewich will result in more seething
>>724857474>>724857474In the novel Aqua wears panties /but/ she makes them invisible because she believes no one will ever see them.
>>724849868Something about this image seems... off
>>724854384Nobody buys it. Try again later.
>>724861637>because she believes no one will ever see them.*so that nobody can see them
>>724860632iirc they can get chipped and smudged
>>724861738oh oops, it's bene a while.
>>724861740They don't get wear from playing, the wear rating is applied when they are rolled
It's really funny that Valve keeps telling these fucks that cash for item trading isn't supported and they won't protect this kind of grey market and they just keep complaining like Valve is supposed to be a bank.
>>724853349>billion dollar company with free money printer is about to make more billions200 MORE YACHTS
>>724853349>orange man destroys the market so that he and his lackeys can profit from itNOOOOOOOOOOO>fat man destroys the market so that he, the 3~4 active valve employers and the janitor can profit from itBased!
>>724861214>lost revenuevalve has made millions over the weekend, since using external marketplaces for trades is likely to get you scammed and more people are using the steam marketthe seething is from people who don't even play videogames that want the money as a real world investment
>>724859337The guy that ruined God Hand speedrunning by taking over the leaderboard, deleting all the jp runners, and cheating like crazy is BR.When confronted by the actual wr holder(s) he justified it by saying playing god hand for YouTube and tricking his viewers into thinking he's the best is how he puts food on the table I still think he can eat shit
>>724853349>I NEED to buy a skin for multiple times the price of a full gameThey deserve every penny they extract from retards
>>724861214100% they dont want smoke from the sec, and they're already getting raped on the censorship from. Thirdies getting raped is the silver lining
>>724848882DO NOT REDEEM THE REFUND!!!
>>724862138hopefully he isnt making money from that anymore. if only i was a god hand speedrunner(???), id be putting all the content out to diminish his following
Have you claimed your knife gainz on your taxes, anons?
>>724858332>buy the skins for whatever price you're willing to pay>now you have skins>everyone is happyWhy was you boughtening skins in the first place if you don't need them you bloody benchod bastard?>but what if the skins get more expencivier and the tradener will unboughten them and I don't have skins anymore?Why would the skins get more expensive if you can't do these jewish scam tricks anymore because anything can get reverted?
people here are happy but whats the actual issue with being able to make money off video games?
>>724862951because they aren't playing for funas soon as your primary reason for playing the game is making money, it's a job
>>724862951that shit is fun when its beer moneydont need the whole game being fucked because some random decides his life depends on it
>>724862951Makes everything worse for the people that don't.
>>724862138I don't condone it, but I understand. You just don’t have any idea how hard life is for us in third world countries, you lived all your life in privilege, being pampered and sheltered from reality by your parents and your government, you don’t know the suffering that's happening around the world, you hear about it on the news, but you never experienced it yourself. For some people scamming and stealing are the only possible way to survive in this rotten world. Again, I don’t condone it at all, but I understand his reasons for doing so.
>>724862951>people here are happy but whats the actual issue with being able to make money off video games?Go check the absolute state of botting and gold selling in WoW, both on official and private servers.
>>724862712He makes money off youtube ads
>>724863193Nigger do you think the US is Sweden? Poverty in the US is as bad as any African nation.It's a few very left leaning territories that actually fund welfare programs
>>724863193this has to be pasta at this pointeither way, you are all trash. leave our superior pasttimes alone, the honour of competition is beyond your subhuman kind
>>724862951Because it causes a massive botting issue.
>>724863396C'mon now, every American posting here is at worst middle class, which is the equivalent of the elites on the third world.
>>724848956I hope Gabe doesnt stop until every last trader is dead.
Still don't know why they didn't at least convert some of that wealth into properties or gold.
>>724863721Yes, defend the billionaire who’s spending his money on yachts and luxury, g0y.
>>724849112>Do trade>Some game or some shit gets updated next die>What I got is worth 5 times more>Dude chargebacks itIt can be abused
>>724863775>Gabe is wealthy, therefore CS traders arent gay and retardedNice clown logic, dipshit
>>724863865Oh wow just had to scroll a little more >>724849578
>>724863775Gabe at least offers a service. Traderscum are just speculating parasites artificially inflating prices.
>>724849236trading for real money is literally against steam rules
>>724859551part and parcel of living in a big city.
Who are these faggots that obsess over skins? I run default in every game because cosmetics are the gayest thing to ever happen to video games. Fuck all these people.
>>724862951it's all about scamming retards with more money than brains, retards that think they're rich then breakdown when it starts to crumble, or retards that are desperate to get rich.
>>724852194>Off-site trades mean more liquid trade capital with lower fees, which means higher price hiking. Larger prices for items drive crate and key sales.my man, /v/ is a fight of different sub groups. You just wrote something that angers the Steamies extremist terrorist group, do you have something to say in your defense before they send ISIS to deal with you? And no, I am not a Tendie extremist either, its just retarded that fan boys will defend their sacret platform no matter what.
>>724864112Same. I hate seeing pre-order or deluxe edition items in the inventory stash when starting the game. fucks up the immersion and a clean playthrough
>trade skin >get irl money through a 3rd party platform>reverse trade>keep money and skinkinda fucking funnyalso I've seen some conspiracy theories that this is related to the American government wanting to prevent money laundering wtf is up with that?
>>724864112only like 30% of people that use skins in CS actually like the design of the skin, the other 70% only like them because of the price and they want to show off, like people that wear supreme clothing
>>724853514Maybe mom and dad should teach little Timmy not to gamble online. >NOOO I NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO BABYSIT FOR ME!I bet you support seat belt laws too.
>>724855215>I fucking hate valve apologizers maneither accept the valve cock or the nintendo cock. You have no other choice! and you are either brown or white, either firstworlder or thurdworlder! Accept the facts and praise gaben or else you are brown!
It's beautiful. The reason why is they are probably getting heat for their gambling market and probably trying to shake up money laundering schemes. Also for those of you pulling the "feel bad for me" out of the 3rdie playbook isn't going to work.
>>724858557>>724858342and in the span of only 10 years, the so called first world stopped giving software engineer and social worker jobs like cake, in many cases only way to get those jobs now are to know the people who offer them... which is a lot like knowing your parents and working at their shop, is it not? Strange how just in the span of 10 years, the great first worlders, have become a lot like the browns, is it not? and given illegal immigration and the birthrate of the great glorious firstworders, it will only take no more than 10 more years for London and Cairo to be the same. And given how first worlders behave, noone will mourn them.
>>724862951The same reason why a lot of people dont like seeing people get rich off crypto, stocks, pyramid scams, cult orgs, lobbying, bribes, streaming, whatever
TOTALCHINKDEATH
If every billionaire in the world distributed 99% of their fortune (which would still make them millionaires) to the poor around the world we wouldn’t have scammers and thieves anymore.
>Reverse trade>Get to keep their money and my hats
>>724865181You could pour the entire economy of earth in India a thousand times, and it'd still be a shithole.
>>724859337my man, in the span of just 5 years on /pol/ from around 2016 to around 2021 I went from 1488 to "white people voted for it" mentality. The so called white people who look down on you right now, will suffer. Do not wish them harm, but also do not care about their problems all that much and just let them ... vote their way out of their extinction :D :D :D !!! LOOOOL. I am sorry for laughing about it, but the first worlders do act like some mighty faggots so they do need some reality check. Just make sure that you are ok. Leave the westers world problems to be solved by their leavers who have -stein in the their name.
>>724865181You can give some poor retard 1 million bucks and he would lose it in a monthThere's a reason those people are poor
>>724849459the first dude ALMOST gets it, but he deluded himself into thinking that the reality is the cope instead of the reality
>>724865181>just give poors all the money bro>they'll use it better why do commies not use their brains just once
>>724865181>we wouldn’t have scammers and thieves anymoreHow very childish. Billionaires exist because they always want more money. Some scammers and thieves are the same, they don't do it just to survive. Hell, you hear sometimes about the cs skin sellers from eastern europe that have mansions and sports cars.
this is the final nuclear option after having no clue how to stop off site casinos.
>>724865386China does exactly that, you retard, they control every major company and distribute its wealth among the people who need it most and it's rapidly becoming the greatest economy on Earth.
>>724859337Your life sounds like that picture of the starving nigger baby sitting next to the vulture. I'm rooting for the vulture.
>>724850413>/v/you mean tim's paid shill farm
I wonder what changed behind the scenes, they always turned a blind eye to the sketchy stream trading because they were making bank off it regardless
>>724865492Ok >>724865462Chang
>>724865620>they always turned a blind eye to the sketchy stream tradingThey've been working against skin gambling sites for years.
>>724865492Had me for a sec
>>724863634Do you think it's still the 90'sAmerica is in the new great depression.There is no middle class anymore
>>724865620They took formal legal action against the casinos, didn't do shit as new ones instantly sprung up. This is the final option to really kill the whole thing until skin traders find a way around it.
>>724864516NTA but the government absolutely should regulate if not operate anything that even remotely resembles a financial system.
>>724859561I game like this.
>AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW ABOUT MY PROFIT it's not Valve's fault that you are using the market wrong and that you are "losing money" on it. people were supposed to drop chests and skins and use them or sell them on the market, and then use that money to buy new games or other skins or whatever, but people decided to abuse the system and sell items for real money on sites that are not affiliated with Valve and now people are crying that this shit is being finally fixed.they should be happy that Valve allowed them to abuse it and make money off of it for so long.good riddance, fuck gamblers and skinfaggots, real CS players don't give a fuck about that garbage anyway.
>>724860416people who believe in this shit do not realize that 50% of men on /pol/ who posts shit like this denounce any white superiority complex the moment they have to speak to a white woman. Its all so easy to say how whites are superiors while staying in your home with no women around, but the moment you speak to a white woman, your political leanings go from 100% right leaning, 100% authoritarian, to 50% right leaning, 20% authoritarian. The moment you have to speak to white women on a daily basis you may as well become liberal. And given that women are kinda needed for reproduction, no wonder white supremacy is kind of a dying ideology. You can still want closed borders and to somewhat preserve your kind, but the moment you have to interact with white people ( especially women ) on a daily basis, you will be a lot less idealistic about things. You can always be a Kazakhstan supremacist instead :D
>>724865620i think the real reason is to counter scammers. they probably were flooded with emails from people who had been scammed and there was nothing they could do to help you.now if you are quick you can get your account back and reverse the scam trades.it prolly puts extra pressure on their staff though?
>>724859337>instead of using the internet to develop marketable skills and getting a job or starting a legit business I will hinge my entire livelihood on… scamming and gambling on video game items!>it's the first worlders fault I'm poor!!
I traded my dream knife 2 days ago for $300, now I found out the scum reverted the trade because the price went up, this is fucking bullshit Valve.
>>724865181If everyone had a million dollars, a million dollars is now worth nothing.
>>724866082Why are you treating pixels like a stock market?
>>724865990>We must preserve (arbitrary gene marker phenotypes)!
>>724866103That's not how currency works.That's especially not how fiat currency works
>>724866103No one is saying everyone should have a million dollars, we're saying everyone should have a decent life and not live in poverty. Try to develop empathy for poor people before defending billionaires.
>>724849001>He soldHahahaha
>>724866171Because it fucking is, it's the stock market of CS, you fucking retard.
>>724866194if you are being idealistic - yes. if you are being practical , you will sale your race to the small hat tribe. I assume the people who claim to hate "thirdies" in this thread, can be happy to be from nations with practically thinking people.
>>724866103actual retard
How long until tf2 starts getting unusual renting services?
>>724866370>If you are being idealistic Nah, there's no valid rationalization for the vain attempt to freeze biology at some arbitrary gene expression. There is no such thing as race, it's a heuristic.
>>724866552while i think you are trans, or worse, i do not want to defend the great genes of the white race that spend the last few decades calling me names. I will leave it to the great minds of the white race to defend themselves.
>>724866249>>724866389Geuine certified retards.If everyone has million dollars then prices will adjust, thus inflation, then your million aint worth much in buying power.
>>724866249>>724866389yeah instead all expenses and stuff in stores gets 900000% more expensive this is literally how it works
I see that this basically kills private trades, but what about trades on third party websites like skin port? Wouldn't this benifit them as basically it forces traders to use these sites to insure that trades reach a third party that won't (in theory) rugpull them?
>>724866262You mean billionaires who have already donated hundreds of millions? What have you done? LolWait till you find out many choose poverty. All those homeless people have had attempt after attempt of being homed. Time to learn about the world a little more
>>724866630and noone will defend them, as none has still even replied to this post. Perhaps being so narcissistic to the point of driving away all your potential allies really was not that smart. Oh and starting wars using your allies as proxies to fight against nations that do not even wish you harm... that too does not help.
>>724865454>Vanilla >Impregnation>Evil Women>Monster GirlsWhy is this so fucking trueAnd to make matters worse, the slop you have to sift through to find half-way decent monster girl romance is fucking tiresome.Women's smut is full of delusional feminism, but men's harem is no better.I guess literature truly is fucking dead.
>>724849112yes, it's a two way reversal, so both parties end up with what they started with if one of them initiate a reversalonly people getting hurt are scammers and retards
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathes in* OHO OHOHAHAHA OHOHO *breathes in* AAAAHAAHAHAHHAAHA OHAHA OHOHO *cough* KJHAKAHAHA *cough* good one!
>>724867079>literature is dead because my smut isn't evolving
>>724848882>>724848956>>724849001>>724849459>>724849578More please. RMT is cancer and I'm glad "people" are dying over it as it's being curbstompedI hope more and more predditors and total abject losers just suffer because they decided trading CS:GO skins was what they're hinging their entire existence on>"An Excellent Meltdown"
>>724867403No, It's dead because the quality of books has nosedived and the only demographics that read shit anymore are degenerate scum.You even have AI-made books now, too. Have you noticed them lately? Fuck... It's becoming a real problem.
>>724854615he means "why is it Valve's problem if a bunch of russians and chinese scammers complain about this new system?" and the answer is: it's notthe ONLY people whining about this are trade scammers and faggots who think steam item trading is some kind of alternative to crypto/the stock market
>>724859018>all the chinks and jeets can't fucking use these games as a way to sustain themselves and thus pollute the player base.maybe I'll finally stop getting endless friend requests from chinese and russian bots who I've never encountered before and only have counter strike and DOTA as their played games both games I stopped playing years ago, but still have some items in, so I'm getting never-ending trade scammers trying to add me as a friend and it's annoying as hell to keep blocking them
>>724848994Aren't usage of those 3rd party websites against Steam's ToS anyway? You know, that thing everyone clicks "I agree" to?
>>724848882Damn they waited that I got scammed for an item that said "festivized" that was supposed to be "festive".
>>724848882Is this like round 2 of the knifecucks suicide watch?
>>724867014Nah we just know the wailing and screeching of subhumans means nothing. Life is good over here, despite what you think you know because of the internet.
>>724866870Why do you think those bypass any of this
>>724869454cope.
>>724865990Thirdie missed the point lmaoAnd also knows no white women
anyone have the link to the site that tracks the overall value of the CS2 market? did it dip after trading restrictions ended?
>>724865036>>724865251>>724866630>>724867014THIS is cope
>>724869860Those sites are garage dude. An Awp skin up for 300,000 that never sells is part of it.
>>724869978no, you are coping. this is reverse psychology post to counter the fact that you are coping.
>>724848882>Nuke the CS:GO economy>Then nuke it again a few days later specifically to fuck over "Buy le Dip" roachesI haven't seen a masterstroke like this since the /fur/ honeypot. Well played, Gay Ben.
>>724870083seethe
>>724870239Dilate.
>>724848882If you reverse a trade, which you can only do once a month, then your account is trade banned for a month. Seems pretty useless to me unless you're doing cash deals.
>>724870409its all about timing the market
>>724870409You only need 1 big scam a month.
>>724853262>i want a completely unregulated market based on absolutely nothing but promises and pinkie swears!>oh but it also has to be completely 100% stable and incredibly airtightjust kill yourself dude, that's all i got for you
>>724867787Set Ur inventory private, worked for me
>>724852263The difference is that neither party can actually lose out if the trade is reversed. If you revert the trade both things go back to normal. As long as you're not retarded enough to give someone real money outside steam that is.
>>724870683But you don't get their items and they don't get yours. It's just reversing the trade on both ends.
>>724862051>fat man destroys the market so that he, the 3~4 active valve employers and the janitor can profit from itthird worlders promising each other "no no no it's totally worth 5K trust me, it, uh.... was super duper rare!!!" is not a "market" you gigantic retard
>>724870824The complaints come mostly from third party trading I assume, where someone is giving the money through another means, and then trade reversing the items so they get both the money and their items back.
>>724859337Nigger we do have welfare, the problem is we have such retardedly high taxation on everything that upwards mobility is non existant and our purchasing power is pitifulIf we didnt have outrageous taxation we would be buying cars at better prices than americans (no im not joking or exaggerating)Secondly the only thing id blame amerigolems for would be to allow Israel to sabotage our nuclear program and Biden backing Lula, off the top of my headWere responsible for our own misery
>>724859882>i make the economicsSure you do little man, sure you do
>>724866049>starting a business>in BrasilDoesHeKnow.jpeg
>>724848882Reversing a trade has absolutely zero negative impact on either party UNLESS they are illegally exchanging for money on the side.
>>724848882Good, find a real job nerds
>>724849459>imagine paying for pixelsrolf
>>724858342white people are not responsible for babysitting billions of retarded brown people
>>724866842>>724866650No. That is not how inflation works. You are a fucking moron.
>>724848882Steam W once again
>>724872626Hey retard, if Valve gave every CSGO trader a million steam dollars right now, what do you think would happen to trade prices?Try and think really hard about this. Retard faggot.
>>724872626That's exactly how it works are you retarded
>>724873080Nothing would change. You act like people would raise their prices just because there's more money circulating. Typical that you don't understand the economy.
>>724874169lel thank you confirming you are a genuine retard.
>>724873363>>724873080Inflation in a system that is non-fiat, ie backed by something non-volatile, is direct and linear. More currency representing the same value means each unit is objectively worth less.In a fiat system the valuation of a currency is not tied to anything, supply inflation is nebulous and based primarily on confidence.Beyond that very simple distinction, supply inflation is also a consequence of increasing the supply of money not of redistributing. Forcing billionaires to give away their cash does not increase the money supply.Beyond THAT the actual math behind supply inflation estimations, which I -know- you don't know, is such that a country with the GDP of the United States would need to print quadrillions of dollars to appreciably impact prices through supply inflation.You are a fool repeating horseshit from other halfwits.
>>724874692Did you ask chat gpt to write this nonsense?
>>724874817It's endlessly funny to me that retards think any text that uses words they don't know is an LLMYou're telling on yourself
>>724874692A billionaire isn't spending money on food to the tune of 400 million peoples food bills.
>>724874919No. Any text that is nonsensical is LLM.
>>724874939Did anon think this meant something?
>>724874992>Basic economics are nonsensical Hilarious Stay in school, kids Otherwise you'll be learn misinformation about inflation from some dipshit on YouTube like this asshole.
>>724848882are you retarded?the tweet itself points out how while this can protect you from being scammed, it can also be used to scam others
>>724875106If you can't comprehend why chat gpt generated nonsense and blindly repost and defend it, you are beyond saving.
It would be REALLY funny if Valve added an item stealing mechanic to cs2
>>724865181it's just retards gonna reply to you saying youre wrong bro. they like their corporate overlords.
>>724875507The scammers and thieves would certainly exist, they'd just have more targets
>>724874692You are a genuine retard that doesn't even understand what he writes.Whether it's the billionaire example or steam example, once you give everyone the money, the goods raise in demand, prices rise, then you have inflation.It is so funny to me that you think prices don't change in an economy where everyone just receive a million dollars out of thin air. Go back to school.
>>724875727no it's just that your understanding of redistribution just assumes all the normal rules of capitalism would still apply after wealth has been redistributed lol...
>>724875994And yours seems to imagine the logistics of supply chain would've change. Stupid commie
>>724876149le stupid commie!!!
>>724848882Based Gaben
>>724876215Your understanding is as dead as your ideology.>>724876149Wouldn't*
>>724876678you sound 14
>>724848882Buying from cheap key resellers costs the publisher money on chargebacks. It's the only time when "piracy" actually hurts the studios.
>>724848882how is reversing a trade scamming? you both get your stuff back, nobody loses anything
>>724848882>BREAKING NEWS3 months ago isn't breaking, you also get refunded in most 3rd party markets so you aren't losing your money just your potential deals or 'earnings'.
>>724876740You sound incorrect
>>724874692>In a fiat system the valuation of a currency is not tied to anything, supply inflation is nebulous and based primarily on confidence.>Beyond that very simple distinction, supply inflation is also a consequence of increasing the supply of money not of redistributing. Forcing billionaires to give away their cash does not increase the money supply.It doesn't increase the money supply, but it increases money circulation which drives demand and raises prices.>Beyond THAT the actual math behind supply inflation estimations, which I -know- you don't know, is such that a country with the GDP of the United States would need to print quadrillions of dollars to appreciably impact prices through supply inflation.Just factual wrong and completely retarded on the face of it.Ironic that you call others halfwits when you copypaste chatgpt without understanding it.
>>724849112I'm sure there's going to be an x days limit so you can't reverse a trade from 3 months ago
>>724852263Do you have a brokerage account? One of the requirements to even open one is to report the industry you work in, your income, net worth, and other identifying information. The intent is for the market (through the SEC) to monitor for activity that is tied to something outside the market, whether that's insider trading, money laundering, and unregulated gray market activityValve's actions makes the skin market more legitimate, not less
>>724852476yeah lol, its extremely funny how you can tell that dumbass got wrecked by valve with the trading changes
>>724877214lol you think wealth redistribution would just cause a looting epidemic based on what? your own ill formed preconceptions about a subject u know nothing about? the neocon propaganda fed to you as a child? you literally know nothing but sit here and pretend to have the answer because you can parrot the le communism bad line merely because you have vague associations etched in your brain that plot communism and traditionalism against each other even though it's way more complicated and subjective than you realize.
>>724878660Hey retard.Imagine your average house is $200,000. And muh evil billionaires decide to be good for once and give everyone $200,000.What happens to the house prices?Think really hard about this.
>>724848882I'm honestly surprised they didn't have anything in place to add a delay to large purchases before since you would obviously see occasional oddities with shit 2cent items spiking to $200 from some poor sap getting their wallet liquidated.Even if you asked Steam support for help in the past they would tell you to eat shit and not get hacked which is honestly retarded for a company as big as they are.
>>724878660ironic
>>724878865except in 2025 houses cost 450k and billionaires didn't need to give anyone a penny to facilitate that, it just happened as a result of the great and generous free market you believe so much in.
>>724848882If only this had been around when I got scammed out of my knife.
>>724879110>didn't answer the questionI accept your concession
>>724879110
>>724878865your pea brain probably thinks that it doubles, yeah? the house is now worth $400,000 and you're just on a treadmill?people want to apply 3rd grade math to very complicated situations that require thoughtful formulas and analysis, but even this situation is pretty easy to figure out, right? just put yourself in the situation.
>>724863193>RealityYou mean the reality you made?
>>724879258it really doesnt matter because the point of distribution is that it doesn't happen in free market conditions in the first place. naturally inflation would become a problem. again since you dont know what ur talking about you just envision distribution as a glorified stimulus check that everyone can use to buy xboxes rather than a strategy for supporting labor and planned economic development at least during the transition away from free markets which is what it is.
>>724877301>Circulation drives demand A prolonged increase in circulation would increase demand for luxuries.Here's a protip: if you're talking about economic and you make a sweeping and unqualified statement you're wrong and retarded.
oh damn everyone got the free $1,000,000 gibs. Now I can be a house!>$1,000,001 per house
>>724879506>A prolonged increase in circulation would increase demand for luxuries.aka people spent their money on bullshit and are now back to square one.in other words, you are retarded, again.
>>724865181You know that more then half of all lottery winners declare bankruptcy?And that money does not tangibly produce anything?Do you have a concept of a person adding to the world or creating something?
>>724879650...no, the "prolonged" part implies it's not a result of a single event but a long-term change to income and the increased demand is only for luxuries because the demand for things like food and shelter are inelastic.You're incredibly fucking stupid.
>>724852263>Its a fucking market dumbassthe entire point of this change is to fuck over the people who treat it as a market and trade speculatively on item prices
>>724879364No, it doesn't double. But it raises considerably.And so does your groceries.And so does your entertainment.And so does everything else.And by the end, once you've accounted for inflation, what has your $200,000 gotten you? Absolutely nothing. Congratulations, you sure showed them billionaires!
>>724879509You will never be a house. You have no walls. You have no doors.
>>724879796>demand for things like food and shelter are inelastic
>>724849578And so he has finally learned his lesson.
>>724879796It's not a prolonged increase, you retard. It's a one off redistribution, which raises initial circulation and demand for everything on the lower end.
>>724879940if women can be the table i can be the house
>>724880009>Having more money makes you need more foodWhy did you post a self portrait
Unbelievably basedNo skin should ever have been more than $1 and third party site / RMT selling is degenerate.Should only have ever been using steam cash which you can only use on other skins or games
>>724879854before covid everyone thought that the moment you give anyone anything for free the entire economy would collapse because they would just impulsively spend it on goods, but in reality what happened is that the majority of people either used it for bills/rent, or invested it into the stock market. nobody wants to spend all their money dipshit they want to attempt to multiply it by investing or starting businesses, going to college etc.
>>724880061>It's not a prolonged increaseCorrect, which is why it wouldn't even result in an increased demand for luxuries.Please read a book.
>imagine investing in gambling
>>724880427That is not even close to accurate...>"majority of people">Source: my ass
>>724880427This is genuinely the most dented posts I've seen on /v/, congrats.COVID and all the policies around it are exactly why the economies of the world have been fucked for the last 5 years. Try looking at an inflation graph for the last 5 years you retard.
>>724880492You're the one arguing about luxuries you dumb faggot.Demand will raise for everything on the low end. Yeah, Yachts aren't going to be flying off shelves, but you can guarantee cars, houses, etc. will go up.
>>724880607wasn't nearly as bad as people thought. stock market boomed etc. compare that to the 2008 financial crisis that was literally caused by corporate greed, not government handouts lol.
this is 7 months oldliterally every trading site holds your cash until the trade goes through after this was implemented/v/ is retarded
>>724849578Third worlders are so fucking retarded
>>724880856>muh stock marketYeah, and every common item you buy is now double in price. Was really worth it for those extra few months in rent, wasn't it? Now you pay more long term because everything is fucking double.No wonder most people are in debt when there's people like you around.
>>724881032bro hes read all the books ofc nothing will be more expensive if everyone gets the billionaire money gibs
>>724853698armor trimming was based thoughbeit
>>724881032The money was used up in a month, why would the knock on effects last for five years?
>>724881331Holy retard. Because the government printed endless money for your retarded policies.
>>724881156>/v/ bootlicks billionaires now
>>724881482disagreeing with your retarded idewas and understanding =/= bootlicking billionaires
>>724881418The government printed endless money but that money wasn’t given to the masses.
>>724881482nigga if you want to defeat billionaires you should have a surface level understanding of economics. you're as intelligent as a 5 year old who thinks:>hurr durr why don't we just make more money, then everyone will be richYou. are. a. retard.
I'm starting to realize Internet is now a liability, it wasn't a mistake, but we should segregate it by having our own sub-internet shared among first worlders.
>>724849112Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>724881772Printing money is not the same as taking them from people who hoard money. Hell you don't even need to literally throw 200k to everyone from billionaires account, you can use that money to subsidize house acquisitions and whatever else that isn't liquid injections of cash.
>>724880849Anon you don't even understand the absolute basics of macro econIt's time to stop posting
>>724881998jews won though, chinks and ziggers lost their USD money laundering scheme
>>724882109>no argumentI accept your concession
>>724882061>you can use that money to subsidize house acquisitionsNow what happens to house prices?You haven't thought about this at all.
>>724881965cheers to that
>>724882252>what happens to house prices when you subsidize first-time buyer loansNothing. We've done this before.Home price speculation is the result of the repeal of glass-steagall.You know nothing.
>>724882629>glass-steagallutterly irrelevant
>>724882629>Nothing. We've done this before.You are either lying or really fucking stupid.It's been done before, yes, but all it does is raise prices.Your first time owners don't win in this scenario. The only people that win are the people selling.It's basic supply and demand. Houses aren't going up quick enough.You are a retard.
>>724862051the difference is i still need to buy groceries in that first market while the second one is only for retarded vidya "luxury goods"
>>724882934>it raises pricesit demonstrably does not>first time homeowners don't win by being able to own a homeyes they do>there isn't enough housing supplyThere are 28 vacant residences per every unhoused person in the United States.You're just wrong on every count. You live in a specious fiction.
