Is having a male character that isn’t (You) NTR?
>>724850994Same reason why dudebro games are niche.
why is china giving their gamers mass agp
Are gatchatroons this sensitive
>>724851071So their gamers cry for affordable healthcare instead of a vaccine against sanctionless COVID 2.
>>724851087Yes. It’s why writers need to be credited for every line of dialogue. So that they can be doxxed, harassed and held accountable
why are bugs so allergic to competition>i-is that a male character!????? AIEEEEEEEEEE I'M GETTING CÜCKED
>>724851163This is according to the obsessed gachatroons that demanded it. They also complained about “foot cucking”
>>724850994What game? This is fucking ridiculous.This is like thinking Edge cucks you because he and Rydia have a romance even though Cecil has Rosa. Can we not have stories where other characters have relationships?
it is the biological purpose of other males to compete with you for the right to mate with femalesit improves the gene quality somehow
>>724851254Girls frontline 2 I think. Gacha gamers are starting to turn on Yuri bait as well too
>>724851861That's fine. Yuritroons can fuck off.
>>724850994>western cucks complaining about cuck complainerscolor me surprisedyour (((movie))) and (((music))) industries have been brainwashing your ass since birth to be a retarded cuck so its only natural that you dont find this repulsive and even dare to criticize the people that dodont you have nigger mumble to listen to and the latest tranny movie to watch? let the people that dont have nigger dick on their mind 24/7 do their job and clean up shitty game devs
>>724852332Just because I don't get outraged that Sam married Rosie while Frodo stayed single doesn't mean I love nigger dicks.
>>724852417That’s exactly what it means tho
>>724851087It's a carryover from idol culture that they immigrated from, to gacha
>>724851087Absolutely. These guys are too poor to afford JRPGs and other games with male allies/companions/etc. It's a baffling mindset for anyone who grew up playing those.
>>724852332Fuck off, i want either proper realized characters in my games or full on character creator, not this retarded shit gacha and vns do of making the most offensively bland mc possible.
>>724850994maybe if you're low test faggot with zero self esteem who needs a game world meticulously crafted to not hurt his feefee>other male characters talks to one of collectable jpg females>OMG NTR>other male characters exists on the same continent as one of the collectable jpg females>OMG NTR>other male characters exists at all>OMG NTRgachashitters are seriously the most pathetic faggots in this regard
>>724852970you can seethe harder normalfag
>>724850994Yes, yes it is.>>724851173There is no competion, the other males will always cuck (you) as they dont have grind and donate for girl's affection, scenes and good boy points, they get everything right of the bat and by default>>724852332(((they))) are here
>>724852970you sound like you love jewlywood slop
>>724850994video games are not real life separate church and state
>>724850994Unironically based. Game devs actually catering towards their audience unlike Westroon who keeps adding celebrities, POCs, girlboss, gays, and trannies in their games.
>>724851163based desu
>>724853046Christ is Kingand Christ said no cheating
I mean basically every time they introduce a male character it's to take things away from the male players, wether through plots or by focusing gacha releases on faggots.So I see why they'd get angry about it. It's simple pattern recognition.
>>724853014kek, that crying paragraph. i'm glad SJW's can feel the same pain they they've been inflicting on those so-called "small pp incels" for years
>>724853006>bothered so much by truth nuke they start to sperg out immediately and make fictional stories about the posterI'm not the one who get aneurysm if I sees another male in my game you pathetic excuses for human beings.
okay, i need gachabros to explain to me the reason why male character is hated
>being mad that your bro has his own romantic interestDo gachapigs really?
>>724853030>>724853104
>>724851087Just look at this site starting most h threads with NTR bait or things like the "NTR smile" that is frequently used for some gacha girls as well. It's merely the consequence of NTR fags being loud even if it might be just for trolling.
there is no reason to have male characters in a gacha besides Gilgamesh and traps. If you want to make a cool male character you can just give the gundam armor to the PC. There is especially no reason to advertise a really attractive SSR character then have them gush about wanting to fuck Chad instead of me when I am the one who can delete them at will.
>>724853104Why are you pretending to be a different person?
>>724853124But Trails ended up going down the same path with Cold Steel... We could've had something like Tita/Agate with Millium/Jusis.
>>724851198There is literally nothing wrong with this, imagine if you could do this with the faggots who ruin big western releases, just ruin their lives because they mistreated your hobby, sounds like heaven
>>724850994For gacha games? Yes.For real full-fledged RPGs? No.
>>724851087>Posting this>On an imageboard where over half of the users use anonshit/faceless males to self-insert asRich
>>724853190Yeah but at least Randy got his girl
>>724850994In a genre where the profit model is literally selling % rolls at obtaining characters, it's completely reasonable for consumers to reject something that has a % of resulting in something they have absolutely no interest in whatsoever, rather than just not being their favorite.If I want the brown titty elf character I can accept getting a pale titty elf, a brown flat elf, or even a big titty human as consolation prizes, but I don't want a furry bara fag as one of my possible outcomes. Don't put bara furry fags into the game if you don't want anyone not interested in them to avoid spending money on it, the more "duds" you add into the pool the less appealing it is.
>>724850994Why not just make the protagonist cooler? make him actually mattered to the plot and not just being a cameraman? harem is cool and all but some bro bonding and male rival is what keep the game alive.
>>724853170I don't, sorry you're too ESL for normal reading comprehension Rajesh.
>>724853376then he would be a typical male character
>>724852332Nah dude all the stuff I "like" sucks but I pretend it doesn't suck even though I'm a blatant spite filled bitter loser faggot that finds a need to ruin everything.
I don't see any point in playing gachas besides Horizon Walker, it's got fun combat, gundam robot girls, you can literally fuck and suck the nipples of every woman you summon, and the devs let you turn the bara furry men into dog girls with female VAs if you buy a costume.
>>724853404No. A typical male character is like the protagonist of FGO and Epic Seven. Do nothing but being hailed as someone so great.
don't you fags have a containment thread on vmg to whine about your made up drama of the week
>>724851137wait what? anyone who needs free healthcare is not what I would consider "able-bodied".this wouldn't stop neets at all?
Small pistol havers in this thread
>>724853157How is this any different than any other RPG with a self insert. Plenty of those have males too
>>724853959And guess what, it led to Shadowheart wanting to swing with the bear.
>>724850994I don't understand what's wrong with this?
>>724853376Because that would involve spending less time shilling the latest character you're supposed to gamble on.
>>724854516That's nonsense.
>>724853376majority of gachacucks want their protagonist to be "invisible" and blending in the background, basically become a nobody. they hate it when the protagonist does too much things in the story and interact too much with the characters.
>>724854775counterpoint, BA is the most popular gacha
>>724854832This. Everyone loves sensei
>>724851087Reminder that a Chinese schizo attempted to murder MiHoYo executives, because MiHoYo released overseas exclusive sexy skins for Honkai Impact 3rd, and the schizo saw it as MiHoYo prostituting the Honkai waifus for foreign men.
>>724854832>most popular>not even close to top 10 in revenueI don't think so
>>724851087>get cucked by sex tourists IRL >use gachashit as an outlet for frustration fascinating behavior
>>724855295Revenuecucks come out of the woodworks to say how much money they need to put in the game to be competitive.Guess what, popularity is measured in fanworks.
>>724850994Just make any male characters traps that also want your dick. Easy
>>724855350So many people love the game but they don't want to support it to keep it profitable, and all they want to do is just jerk off to fanworks?yeah sounds like popularity to me
>>724855467F2P for a reason. Take your payPig ass back to your pay2win slop
>>724855467Merch is what makes it profitable. You poor soul have never played anything without a weapon gacha.People who spend 5 bucks per month are in the top 0.1% results
>>724855514Eh, if it's a little bit closer to top 10 I'd buy it. It's so low that I feel like the whole "it has bazillion of fanworks" is a major cope.
Am I getting this right, just the mere existence of male characters, whether or not the gachasluts are interested in them, is NTR to the gacha community?Fucking hell, that's somehow more brainrotted than anime waifuism.
>>724855582There is legit nothing to spend money on in the game. If you get free 1500 rolls per year, there are no fomo dupes, no weapons, no male banners, people won't spend.And guess what, people like not spending money. Let me give you an example, DDLC is the most popular western vn ever made. How much money does it cost? 0. Not very profitable now is it
>>724851087It isn't just gacha players. It's fucking everyone. If there is a game with any non-mc male x female romance, especially if said female is also a romance option for mc, people fucking lose it. Even if it's optional.I could only imagine something like Harvest Moon Tree of Tranquility and it having "rival" guys marrying a girl.
>Threatened by the pixelsThe peak of masculinity, eh?
>>724855721>we must be better men
>>724855727>Is that....a MALE GAZE? AAAAAAH COVER IT COVER IT ILL AIEEEEE
>>724851087I think it's a new thing correlating with third worlders being obsessed with nu-otaku culture involving vtubers and gacha. they are also obsessed with self insert and literally cannot fathom a hypothetical that doesn't involve them, nor enjoy such a thing as an art. there's a really funny mp4 I would post right now>WARNING THIS POSTER IS FROM THE PHILIPPINES
>>724855727hello there, reddit
>>724851087Outrage addiction and trannies infiltrating larping as le based coomer to make sure no man exist
>self insertyou do understand that games are immersive and interactive media, right, unc-taku?
>>724853124>your broKilling him immediately. Now what?
>just enjoy it>AS AN ARToh theres is reddit speak again, (((you))) people just cant help yourselves, can you?
>>724853142Come to think of it, I can't even fucking remember when the NTR baiting thing even started kicking into high gear here on 4chan
>>724851087Yes. Though it is fun to mock the gacha lunatics, if the companies complain about it they are being pretty rich. You can't make your business around appealing to lunatics and then get mad when they act like lunatics. It is sort of like when the idol or e-thot who cultivates a parasocial relationship with her followers gets caught with a boyfriend and then there's this outrage over her fans getting upset. You knew what you were cultivating in the first place, don't get angry at the consequences of it.
>>724855943>>724856025you are just as retarded as troons demanding representation. can you not just relate to a character's qualities instead of requiring them to be exactly like you? the former is what everyone did until you guys showed up
>Male character that gets with female character who has no interest in MCNot NTR>Male character gets with female character who is a potential love interest to MCIf player doesn't choose her and actively chooses another character, not NTR>Male character gets with female character who is the only love interest to MC if the player fucks upNTR>Male character existingNot NTR
>>724856120It's like when LADS femcels sent death threats to artists for drawing yaoiWomen are not any better, they just don't suffer the same because men are not as twisted as them (you won't see incels infiltrating their LADS game to force some hotter and younger girl constantly interacting with the guys in front of your femc
>>724856121No, you did exactly what /v/ are doing today, just with less of escapism and without dei plants explaining to you that what you did is actually bad
>>724856140Don't bother, you're talking to "men" who would break down under the pressure of any confrontation
>>724856242you really cant infiltrate lads either, need to prove gender or something like that
>>724851861>Gacha gamers are starting to turn on Yuri bait as well tooFINALLY. no more bait, we going CANON now
>>724856289Did your brain short there, Adit?
>>724856320>>724855759
>>724851173they have like 60 million male excess of course it triggers biological incentive to extreme even in fictional environments
>>724856424I'm sure most chink women would prefer fictional anime hunk over even the top third of chinamen
Games only need two types of characters, females, futas and shotas.
>>724856121Stupid fucking whitoid nigger. Immersion and interactivity. This is not your mangas and animes with own character doing their own separate things on the screens and pages. You are the one doing things, its fucking game and you do have role there, you brainfried type 5
>>724856414holy shit you fucking killed him, lol
>>724856512>Still no argumentLike talking to a wall
>>724855719>DDLCdoes it get extra content after release? updates? does it have to maintain server?not the same
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>>724856512a lot of these games have context and backstory for the player character, to meet the criteria that your character exists in a vacuum and YOUR actions have purpose. The only characters you're truly meant to pretend you are, are the likes of the Summoner from league of legends.
>>724856637Are you moving goalposts already? Your original argument was that popularity can only be shown by how much people have spent on it.
>>724856671they do, but these contexts and stories are fictional tho, and very often subjects for my interferrence, even those that already occured postfactumits okay to romance momfu, sisterfu and daughterfu because not only they arent actually my moms, sisters, and daughters, they dont even exist at all
Gachacucks are not so different from vtuber simps
>>724853376Nah, it's better to make him into a weak cuck getting belittled by every woman in the game while they slobber all over some random dudeAnd no, it's not a theoretical scenario
>>724850994No, but having NTR is NTR.
>>724854382Cucks angry because they lost their ammunition to shitpost
I refuse to believe there are people that actually enjoy/pay attention to gacha game stories.
>>724856015You forgot the "gahahaha" at the end of your post, Rance.
>>724854382All pandering and no shipping makes redditor a mad (she/her) girl
>>724857029I only cared about Girls Frontline. GF2 and NC proceeded to shit all over it, though.
>>724853124Thats really depends, if the girl was originally meant for me then il seek out the way to remove them both from the story and try to make their lives as terrible as possibleI'l play fucking bahamut lagoon if i i'l want to get cucked
>>724850994why are gacha players so obsessed about getting cucked are they actually into it or something because people are complaining about this in every other gacha game
>>724857491You know the "people" on /v/ who ape out when a story mistreats a character they like, as if the only reason anything happens is because the author felt nice/mean that day?
>>724857558the redditors >>724853014 ?
>>724857491It's more of an asian phenomena and it's because their woman do NTR their men on a regular basis as a matter of tradition. The men are supposed to do it too, but they can't get pussy anymore because of feminism, so they get big mad.
>>724857491>if ur no likey homos>DEN U R GAEare you okay there, little bro? anything you want to share with the thread?
>>724857491Mostly SEA browns, chinks etc who often have to deal with getting cucked IRL so seeing another male character ingame triggers them
>>724857095Rance has bros with romantic interests thoughever
>>724857662you're brown
>>724857491Because if there male characters that are not the MC exist, someone will make a scenario where he will fuck/rape the girls.And the playerbase of most gacha is full of mentally fragile people that will feel threatened even by the idea of this scenario.
I mean this is the same self-inserts who feel threatened by both heterosexual and yuri couples, because of the idea that female characters can romance that isn't the MC (which I heavily doubt said MC was meant to be a self-insert in the first place)
>>724850994Yes. I should be the only male in existence.Games for this feel?
>>724857902suicide
This isn't complicated. Imagine you roll for a girl, you save rolls for months, maybe even spend real money. You get her only to find out she hates you or is with someone else.That's going to get people to drop the game. It's simple business. You can't leave people waiting for months for a character they like and then do that.It's not that every character has to love the mc, it's that different players will like different characters.
>>724853014>cute femboy teasing you for having a small dick before making you suck hisTotally unrelated, that's just where my mind went when I saw that pic.
>>724858614kill yourself
Nothing more tranny coded than being a man and wanting a world of only women.
>>724859039You'd turn huniepop and nekopara into a sausagefest if you could
>>724858117That sounds like a problem exclusive to gacha ""games""Maybe gachanigs should play an actual game instead. A game that doesnt force you to swipe your credit card for a CHANCE to have cute_anime_girl.jpg say some cringe shit like "I wuv you MC-kun uwu~"
>>724859036No thanks.
https://youtu.be/b3LoNvd98Sg?si=ydhgKsY8FBwBpvMdOWEN CHADS
>>724851087most of these come from Koreayou know that place where making an ok sign can make you lose your job.
>>724851173Because the male characters all look like white men like anime
>>724859168buy an add
Self-insert bros, our status?
>>724859105Funny your examples are worlds where men actually exist unlike mobile troonslop
>>724859369do those men crush (you)r dates with the girls? no? then you shouldn't suck yourself off so hastly and smugly whiteboy
>>724859369its different when japan does it
>>724853014didn't that game come out only recently?
>>724859472oh please chinky, i've seen what you consider to be "mixed toilets". You're not fooling anyone.
>>724856113legoman
>>724859575yeah, that was the day 1 essentially and they shat theri pants right off the bat>>724859587please whitey, fgo must be hardcore ml haremge to (you)bet you seethed at xenosaga when the end shot dropped too
>>724850994maybe if you're a neurologically defective subhuman that can't envision things in your head or answer "what would you do if you were x?" questions.
>>724859773>shat their pants day 1how? Did they announce day one that they don't do more male characters. How can this game already have a 'revamp story'?
>>724857842You're getting the other way around. If there are other males, artists are more likely to draw NTR.
This is why I will never respect the asiatic races. They are a nation of imbeciles and cowards, and are, for lack of a better term, so lost in the plot, that the appearance of a male character in their masturbatory delusions literally makes them homicidal (they will never act on this anger, for they are too weak, of body, mind and soul)
>>724859973kicked out the main writer and messed the story up, ntr shit is just icing but its pretty bad too, you know it because gookgods dont want just femboy gone but also some of the girls
>>724856242>It's like when LADS femcels sent death threats to artists for drawing yaoiAnd yet progressive spaces like reddit will continue to champion love and deep space just because it's a gacha targeted at yumes only, and won't disparage the women that play it.Yet when men rightfully object bad actors in development teams hijacking gachas to force their personal baggage against male players, they get shit on endlessly.
>>724860409China loves Miside, you are missing the point whiteboy
>>724860409trvthnvke
>>724857491I swear devs do it on purpose now so they can look like the good guys when they promise to fix it moving forward. This happens way too often to chalk up to devs who are out of touch.
>>724860409I've never seen a people so proud of their ignorance as whites. You see the tip of the iceberg and thing you understand everything. Maybe this is why your countries are no longer your countries and instead belong to the brown masses you just let in by the millions. The bearded jihadist told you not to worry about him or his family of 30 other combat age men because he said islam is a religion of piece and you believed him because you didn't bother to look deeper. The tip of the iceberg was enough for you.sad!
>>724850994Why are self-inserters so mentally ill?
>>724860671Watch out there's a man in proximity of you!
>>724860640I really doubt gacha devs want to give themselves more work. It's easier to assume it's just part of asia's ongoing gender war, and project managers being too busy or stupid to check shit before it goes live.
This is why I enjoy Yuri games the most, characters are allowed to have actual personality and lives and are not just a mindless one-dimensional for (You) character that's not allowed to talk to anyone else.
>>724860671>I've never seen a people so proud of their ignorance as wh-AACK
>>724853306troon with most likely a Kraken account detected
>>724860671Sorry anon, but gooks and chinks are a race of dogs. It's just how it is.
>>724860409what are you even complain for?Nobody except fags care for male (playable) characters in gacha. All male character in those games are low test femboys made for the female gaze anyway.
>>724860409This
Why cant white, slurp-clapping and clap-slurping normiescum just leave us mental, ill and loser incels alone and just keep encroaching on, invading and subverting our mental, ill and loser incel places and hobbies, hmm? Curious.
>>724860939its a /pol/tard anon, xhe just hates china and will cut xeir/xer nose to spite it
>>724850994Only if their dick is bigger than mine
>>724860939I don't even play gacha, this just serves as reaffirming my beliefs of the genetic inferiority of the mongoloid breed.
>>724860967>OurSaid the failed normie that fakes mental illness. Ofc you can prove me wrong by posting actual papers which prove that you're, in fact, a mental defect
>white people hate thisOk. Leave it alone then.
>>724861110Netanyahu is the new Fuhrer
>>724851173I've always wondered why all these Impregnation games had a shit ton of orc/goblin/wolf impregnation and barely much human.I think I now understand.
>>724861204TRVKE but neo nazis aren't ready to accept it yet
>>724853014hehTurns out those "small pp incels" can fuck you up when enraged enough.
>>724861110A chink saying that is hilarious.
>>724861204>newnigga il tell you a secretjews invented nazism
>>724861287whitebros, we got too cocky...
>>724861204I WILL support the creation of a Greater IsraelI WILL support the extermination of the Bedouin Arab race by the hands of the Hebrew-AryansI WILL still not circumcise but I WILL stop mocking Jews for doing it
>>724860671yep yep, 50% ignorrant and 50% arrogant equals 100% white, thats the math, alright>>724861097>i dont even have single slightest idea what the fuck i am talking about>but i will still whiteknight for women, shippers, troons and redditorswhite hands typed this post
>>724856113India got smart phones
>>724860409I just assume anyone who posts defenses of men in gachaslop to be non-white women and you're living up to the stereotype.You low IQ fags even admit it's a power fantasy and then pretend at offense when people point out your faggotry is ruining it.
>>724853014Reminder this is the player's son.The MC is getting cucked by his own son.
>>724861679Not really, he was supposed to be but they never went there
>be chinese or korean>look at a mirror>see a male>die like a tranny
>>724861441>but i will still whiteknight for women, shippers, troons and redditorsI never did that thoughever. I just expressed my distaste for the chink race, as is my moral duty.Troons and fags can die too for all I care.
>mixed>loo
>>724861606Did you tell your parents that they shouldn't expect anything from you?
>>724861874>Is it really so hard to just stay in their lane?Nearly impossible for dumbasses, yes.
>>724861867You took a stand against and for, retard
>NOOO I HAVE TO LOOK AT A MAN'S ASS WHILE I PLAY OR PEOPLE WILL THINK I'M GAY!
>>724861842Even the main character? But that's who you play as?I don't get it.
>>724850994Drama explained.>Arcalive did a deep dive research into this game>story was a bait and switch; it was changed at the last minute>guy who wrote original story kicked out, works on BA now>he took his story with him>new story writers are a team of women>previous story concept completely scrapped, >hints of what it used to be like can be seen in Renoa's Trauma >(doing things multiple times to get it right, time loop, mental corruption, etc)>Owen is one of the female writer's OC, he did not exist until the rewrite
>>724851087ricels always been like this, same happened with the anime decades ago where males were removed completely from many series - most popular series had cute girls only
>>724862017>most popular series had cute girls onlyJaps are based?
>>724861874Anon, I'm sorry to tell you this but... Your Dad fucked your Mom.
>>724861937No, I didn't. I just said that the behavior of the mongoloid subhuman reaffirms my beliefs that it is, indeed, subhuman. The fact that the "other side" in this moronic culture war over mediocre phone games is comprised of people equally as despicable is irrelevant, because I don't actually care one way or another. I just wanted to share my disgust about your dog race.
>>724862079>(you)r mom>(your) dadHow would you feel if you didnt have breakfast today?
This is the price you pay for taking the lazy route of making your protagonist a blankslate selfinsert instead of a character.
>>724862192Sorry, you are Mom and you are Dad.
>does everything right >sees everyone else do everything wrong>wins
>>724862171>mediocre phone gamesYour mask slipped off trannoid. Kill yourself.
>>724862367I mean, they're certainly not good
>>724851087You'll notice it's overwhelmingly right wingers too
>>724850994Yes it is. Only the main male character should be all powerful and mighty
>>724851087Dude, Nikke is still reeeling from Dave The Diver stealing some of the self insert MC girls.
>western cucks>we must be better men and accept change>eastern incels>burn down company hqasians are pretty based ngl
>>724856882Both fanbases correlates from being brown/SEAnigger
>>724862752Reminds me of that one short film, the strange thing about the johnsons. It's about a son raping his elderly dad for an entire decade.
>>724857491>gacha playersare we going to pretend /v/ didn't have a meltdown over the bitch from bg3?
>>724862915Din-Dins!
>>724862918Or that other bitch from Fallout New Vegas
>>724862867they are spending real money for a chance to get jpegs of fake girls
>>724850994Can they try to write likeable males instead? Writing a female who appeals to foid is just as hard. Turning into a yuri bait (sexual appeal) is such a shallow solution and only shows writer's incompetency. A good male character shouldn't be making you feel like a cuckold, but rather have (you) hand your girl(s) to him yourself
>>724851087No just them, otaku and weebs in general. They have such a low sense of self-esteem that ANY man in the vicinity of a girl automatically means they're getting cheated on/losing, because there is no scenario for them where they have enough worth to be the more attractive option.
>>724861441>but i will still whiteknight for women, shippers, troons and redditorsYou're "playing" GACHA. Tons of women artists and voice actors take part of it. If you don't want to support women then stop participating in low quality gacha trash. All you're doing is making it so they don't put it into your "games", not change their mind on their positions nor the money they still get from being contracted by the gacha developers.
>>724862918You mean the one that literally, unironically cucks the player?
>>724862065the word you are looking for is "pussified"
>>724853014>the competition is... a childjfc how small are their peckers that they feel mogged by a little boy
>>724863427yes. you should free yourself from mortal suffering and ascend to nirvana
>>724850994There is no reason to have another male in a game. You cannot prove me wrong.
>>724861969The mental illness of Chinese/Korean/Japanese otaku, who are much worse than your average Western incel, reached the point that yes, if the protagonist of a game is male and romances one of the girls, he's cucking (YOU).The protagonist is no longer supposed to be a self-insert. It's supposed to be the otaku in question. No men can be allowed anywhere in the vicinity of the story, no matter the role, because they have such a low sense of self-worth that AUTOMATICALLY that means the girls are choosing those men.
>>724863709how did the girls get born then?
>>724850994I know how they could include male NPCs in these gachas. Just put a trigger warning before any scene involving other males. That way the player knows when to skip the story, and avoid the negative feelings they get whenever they see other males existing. It's a tried and tested tumblr tactic.
>>724850994I wouldve played it if it had unironic femboy bull NTR. Fuck koreans.
We're going to get to the point where the VA's have to be unmarried virgins.
>>724863885yeah, duh. how am i supposed to self immerse otherwise?
>>724858117>>724859132It's also not true, because people who play harem games absolutely lose their shift if a given girl, when NOT chosen by the protagonist, ends up in a relationship with a different guy.
>>724863958suck your own cock imaging you're the woman
>>724864009but then who will be the man?
>>724863994People also get sick of it when one girl is given way more attention than other girls aka See Nikke and the current state of Rapi.
>>724863291Some games do that, others don't.
>>724863994and god help them if the girl choose another girl
>>724863885>>724863958Voice actors. Virgins.Writers. Virgins.Artists. Virgins.Programmers. Virgins.Game Testers Virgins.Marketing. Virgins.Cosplayers. Virgins.This is non negotiable.
>>724859212Koreans should just amputate their thumbs at this point. It's hilarious and fucked up how a hand gesture (or any hand position resembling it) can destroy careers and turn you into a target for death threats and attacks.
>>724864127this. only then could they understand their customers and deliver a highly immersive experience
>>724863852Why, as a player, should I care about that? We we meet a girl in a gacha she is usually between 9-20. I don't care how she came into the world, the only thing the game should present to me is from the moment we meet this girl. Her existence doesn't matter outside her role in the game, which is to suck me off.This shit isn't high literature, I'm currently looking at 24 Tolkien books on my shelf right now and thats fine, but these are far asian gambling simulators for phones.
>>724864261family is one of the backbone of characterization man
>>724863958Chiwa Saiou's husband? Me.https://youtu.be/outCcPr9eIE
>>724850994Based. Foids and queers love shipfaggotry and have meltdowns over "pandering to incels", so I'm really digging how mad they're getting over CZS fucking them over. You should see all the seethe on other social networking sites, they don't even get this angry over shit like "racism" and "bigotry"; in fact the unprecedented level of butthurt this has caused is actually inspiring tons of racist and sexist posts from the fags mad at Korean men for buckbreaking their gacha.
>>724864186And it's just as bad from both sides. People like to point out how fucked up, cold, calculated and shallow the women are....But on the other you have men, who are equally insane, porn-addicted to the extreme, fucked up by the rat race that is life in SK, and treat women like shit - SK is one of the few countries in the world where women are a majority of victims of violent crimes.
>>724862445Asian right wingers make me reconsider my political alignments online. I'm still rw compared to my countrymen in the west, but I want nothing to do with jeets and gooks that have the mindset of a Taleban goatfucker.
>>724864310It really isn't, not for gacha games. Are you perhaps an american, who thinks the only characterization possible are daddy issues?
>>724850994no but since i lack context i don't know where on the spectrum whatever this is about actually is. having non-protagonist males is fine, them having stories is fine, even them having love interests is generally fine.it starts to get more questionable when their love interests are recruitable characters in a gacha game because part of the draw of those games is aiming for girls you like. if it's not immediately clear that the girl isn't for (You) then yes, even if the protagonist isn't being cucked, it could be said that the player themself is if they start getting attached to the girl and then later find out she's romantically unavailable to the player's avatar in the game world.however, there are tons of ways to avoid this without just removing men entirely. some of the best stories of all time are stories that are nearly exclusively about men bonding with each other, men working for the sake of honor or duty, men upholding ideals, etc. men aren't the problem, setting the player up for disappointment is the problem.
>>724861475>and put a PM in that's hard against itExcept Indians. She's already in talks to import more workforce from India.
>>724864550>men bonding with each other, men working for the sake of honor or duty, men upholding idealsgacha players aren't interested with that
>>724864374I wonder who is responsible for turning the men into radicals...
>>724864550Do you think people are going to spend money for jpegs of men doing all of that shit, or are they going to spend it on jpegs of little girls on microbikinis or cowtits.
I like having competition in my power fantasy games because you can't win if you're not competing against someone.
>>724864721do Asians not understand the concept of friendship and brother in arms?
And this is why ZZZ is still the best.Every character is for (You).(You) are the most important person in the story.There are no canon inter-character romantic relationships despite what desperate shippers insist.ZZZ keeps winning.
>>724864847>Every character is for (You)even the male?
>>724864374idk about the women except for that fringe feminist megalia thing. But it is common in Asia for parents to warn their daughters not to date Korean men. They are violent, entitled and have a terrible personality.
>>724864875Necessary evil.
>>724864875Even the males. Devs even made it so you can now freely swap between MaleMC and FeMC if you want for character events.
>>724864825That's mostly in Shonen or Yaoi these days.
>>724864642i currently play several and i love some of those stories but yeah you're right, they're not the main draw of that sort of game. i don't think most players would have a problem with those stories being present though, the problem is more what i said about unintentionally bait-and-switching the player with regards to recruitable girls.>>724864721setting aside fujos, the big ticket banners are always going to be what you said. but i do think that games having engaging and varied stories leads to better overall player retention and that leads to more people available to actually spend on character banners.
>>724853014Genshin still has male banners though
>>724864914South Korea was literally the only country in the world where, when studies were performed on the level of happiness of women among various age groups, literally every single age bracket declared, in their majority, they would want to leave the country.
>>724850994>Chinese consumers have companies bend over backwards to please them>The american literally struggles to comprehend this, calling them sensitive, troons or faggots reciting the mantra they have been tach since childhood "a real man takes it up his ass with a smile on his face"It's cool to see this develop in real time.
>>724864825Does that mater on a gacha game? Asians love that shit because they slurp shonenshit like no tomorrow, dokkan battle is still very popular.But that has nothing to do with gachas that sell tits and ass.
>>724850994Chinese males are even more fragile than American males, incredible
>>724865223South Korea should be an example why Feminism bad.
>>724864847>Every character is for (You).Not even you believe thathttps://youtu.be/9LffgQC0Y58
>>724863732It's insane how massively popular isekais have become in Japan.At first, I really didn't understand why they were making so many low budget Anime featuring (Textbook fucking ultraloser nobody likes), but UH OH! HE DIED IN A CAR CRASH AND IS NOW KING MAOUH THE ULTRA CHAD WHO EVERY ELFSLUT WANTS TO SUCK OFF!" With the most boring as fuck "Deviantart self insert tier fanfiction written by a 13 years olf weeb emo kid" narrativeUntilI realised that the demographic this genre panders to are Japanese hikkis who have not seen any sunlight in nearly 10 years. It's really sad what's going on in Asia right now. The whole region is suffering a spiritual death.
>>724865087You don't understand how the gacha market works. Do you think the women playing LaDS want more males to interact with their husbandos? Its not 2020 anymore, normalfags aren't playing gachas anymore. The current strategy is to fill niches, not to appeal to the widest range of people possible.
>>724865302tbf, the massive gender imbalance in china means there's a lot more competition for women. i can understand not wanting to live in that same reality in their escapism.
>>724865385Xi Jinping will conquer Taiwan, unite the Middle Kingdom, and bring Asia to the next stage of cultural enlightenment
>>724865547I'm sure they can't wait to work 80 hours a week for a pittance. What a glorious """culture""".
>>724865476Hoyo can pull off omnipandering but in general, omnipandering is dead for smaller games because they can't keep up with Hoyo's budgets so they have to rely on catering to a segment of the market instead and that market can't be normalfags because normalfags are impressed by big budget production values more than anything else. Anything lower budget needs to hyper focus on pandering to either lonely single women with disposable incomes or lonely single men with disposable incomes.
>>724865623Xi will take China to the final stage of Techno Communism, where every man work according to his ability, and the state provide according to his needs
>>724853376>bro bonding and male rival is what keep the game alive.No it fucking doesn't. Especially not,>male rivalryNot a single gacha is kept alive with that. We have seen more gacha fucked by this dumb shit. The fucking genre is 98% milking cash using waifus.
>>724865385Anime, Mangas and LNs are a shitshow anyway cause most of the younger writers grew up with them and video games like DQ and it clearly shows.
>>724850994why does this only happen in south korea?
>>724865482You know, that's a fair point. They must have it a thousand times worse there, and then they have CCP rule on top of that.
>>724865812it happens in China too
>>724865547
>>724865675Exactly. All the new mixed stuff has crashed and burn, and every month more and more games EoS. The only one that survive are the ones that stop releasing males and backpedal to introduce tons of harem pandering.
>>724854775Who the fuck wants to have an invisible protag when he's the one mattering the mostIf he ain't acting like Dirty Harry or Black Dynamite when it counts, he ain't cool.
>>724853376It's a form of gatekeeping: you start putting in completely sensible things, then normies start to invade the fanbase and want more focus on the relationships between the characters (that aren't the MC) until they push the "boring MC" away from the spotlight in favour of the waifu/husbando of the week.
>>724865476the ultimate goal is to serve what men want. the main focus might be romantic/sexual wish fulfillment, but there are other manifestations of what men want, and variety keeps your players interested and playing. your standard visual novel from like the 90s or 2000s would have a bunch of girls you could pursue but it was very common for them to have some guy who was your friend (and who was conveniently awful with women, had some weird hyper-specific fetish that none of the cast fulfilled, or was otherwise romantically unavailable).>>724865675that's a good point though, ultimately you're limited by budget to some extent.
>>724864090Doesn't help Rapi doesn't even doing anything for the latest bullshit that they are trying to staple to her. I seriously think they have no idea what they want to do with Rapi. Anis and even Neon seem to have more clear paths for what they are trying to do vs rapi.
>>724865223>why not change laws to make people's lives easier, since it's not like SK is poor>then you remember the clowns ruling the countryfirst the corrupt cultist female president, now a corrupt president that tried to self-coup and utterly embarrassed himself
>>724865987then don't make the boring MC. Make him Doom Guy, make her Lara Croft
Why do you all complain about harem pandering games. Do you all understand what the point of gacha is? No one is going to dump thousands of dollars on a chick just to get NTR'd. This already happens in real life dating scene
>>724865812South Korean incel activists will literally LITERALLY try to kill devs that don't make gachas that please them. Also they have these comical protests in front of the dev studios, and they bring props like rented trucks and blimps to voice their discontent. If you want to make a gacha that's not just harem/galge, then don't do it in South Korea. Other Asian countries have their schizos too but it's not as bad as in SK.
>>724866057Some do that, but others think this hurts the SI aspect.More importantly, there is a limited amount of badass feats to go around, and especially if you don't make the MC playable you want to reserve those for the characters people are going to actually spend money on.
>>724866231I forget which hentai gacha it was(I think it was Kamihime), but it had a gacha was about rolling for h scenes and a startling amount of them were NTR(and i think interspecies at time too?). I think it was actually going well for them but that was a porn game catering to people with a fetish so it's a bit different.
>>724866298Other gachas in sk get made that aren't those genres, they just aren't as big. Plus sk protesting or voicing discontent is better than doing literally nothing.
>>724859212Do ricels sincerely look at left and think it's a psyop to mock them?How mentally stunted and deranged do you have to be to think that?This is way beyond even /pol/ levels of schizodom
>>724866298China is just as bad.
>>724866497lmao what the fuck?explain please
>>724866497>o ricels sincerely look at left and think it's a psyop to mock them?How mentally stunted and deranged do you have to be to think that?Did you forget they literally had a feminist cult ruling them that drowned a buncha teens? The cult's ruling was for a long time too.
>>724851331i like the "somehow". it implies that researchers are still scratching their heads over this eternal mystery
>>724866298>they have these comical protests in front of the dev studios, and they bring props like rented trucks and blimps to voice their discontent.Based, honestly. Just imagine if 4chuds did this kind of thing to western studios when they did censorship or made the girls ugly
>>724866298Yes we know westoids don't have a spine. Thats why gaming went to shit such as Dragon Age Veilguard. If Chinese ran Canada, they would have burned down Bioware a decade ago
>>724866231because the fans are annoying seanigs and if you depict the MC as anything other than a faceless jacked bro that is literally them then they throw a tantrum
>>724865737I'm sure there is someone out there who genuinely believes that.
>>724866573They are paranoid that any time a female character is shown with her index and thumb at a small distance from each other she is mocking them for the small size of their penis.Yeah, I'm not making this up.
>>724866497>be k*rean>see a cartoon little finger>instantly start feeling distress over penis size
>>724866831oh oh shit i saw it now. lmao
>>724866573If you completely ignore the context, her right hand in the left pic looks like it's doing the pinching gesture. Like you have to completely ignore the other hand and just focus on the lines.
>>724866831(me)Sorry, small correction, any two fingers in that position is enough to trigger the Korean incels rage.Yeah.
>>724866573>>724866831It's literally clown world tier to the point the company behind the game had to do a press coverage issuing a public apology
>>724866619>they literally had a feminist cult ruling them that drowned a buncha teens?No they didn't.Their former president was part of some cult, and also completely fucked up the Sewol ferry rescue mission (though so did many other officials working on it). An all around shit president that was rightfully kicked out, but it's not like she actively tried to murder them.
>>724864091Neuvilette is an absolute bro. He deserves Navia.
>>724866989AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEMY PENIS SIZE
>>724855295>>724855467>>724855582Oh, you're going to bring that 'revenue chart,' aren't you?The revenue chart that was exposed to have: >only has Apple Store revenue data>doesn't count Android/Google Store revenue>doesn't count independent client store revenue>doesn't count merch sales revenue>and has a fake Chinese numbers bufferThey pretty much made that shit up.The only real indication from that dogshit revenue chart is that it revealed that women (who predominantly use iphones) are also fucking degenerates like everyone else, and probably even worse because they're not constantly ridiculed like their fellow male degens.
>>724866995>No they didn'tYes they did have a literal cult running their country for over a decade.
>>724850994>look at the moonrunes>they're NOT korean moonrunesweird>>724851087Oh, DEFINITELY.
>Homosexuals in v mad at the asiatic man keeping their companies in linethats is why they get things like blue archive and you get things like "pansexual ugly black woman game times 100"
>>724867076They didn't try to drown the kids though, it was just pure incompetence. Also SK has multiple cults, many of which are still active. Asia is general is weird with cults. Even Shinzo Abe was apparently part of some Japanese cult.
>>724866995the feminist cult running the country from the shadows is an actual fact even though it sounds like conspiracy theorist nonsense or a plot from a third rate game or anime. that's why she got removed from office, it's well documented.
>>724867189OR, and hear me out here, you don't pander to schizos on either side.Is it so difficult?
>>724867189I'm sorry I don't lose my mind whenever I see a male vidya character other than my self-insert. I'm just incapable of feeling such insecurity.
>>724855326Yeah it's like what happens to white dudes when they see blacked. It must suck to be a porn addict and be reminded you're interior stock
>>724867347>>724867276because that has worked so well for the western game industry?
>>724866497>>724866852Ah here comes the daily idpol insecure cucks making fun of other insecure cucks as if it changes the fact they are also clipped dick virginsDo you guys have any lives besides this homo gay gossip shit?
>>724867189This. Western chuds just cry online while their industry shits on them and feeds them woke slop while Asia chads actually organize real change
As an SPH enjoyer I feel jealous towards Koreans. Their girls are so eager to give men what I want, but none of them appreciate it. Worse yet I can't even fly over there to enjoy it myself because 15cm is big by Korean standards. I'm the fox that wants the grapes on the tree, while the tree sparrow looks down enviously at me...
I wasn't racist until the horde of unwashed thirdies forced me to be exposed to gachatrash.
>>724867465Last I checked western games still keep making billions. It's just not from gachaslop but from shooters and fifaslop.
>>724851068>Call of Duty and GTA are niche
>>724867347*Posts picture of your waifu with a black guy**You shit yourself and go bald*Many such cases for pale moids
>>724867375The guys getting off to that get off to it BECAUSE they're racist. The entire appeal for that genre of porn is they're seeing a woman fuck someone they believe is inferior to them. It's the same principle of homeless characters in hentai and it's essentially the same fetish as bestiality and insects in that it's meant to be degrading to the woman in question. Even the fat balding ojisans cover the same niche, it's all different flavors of the same concept.So you've misunderstood the point, it's thinking you're superior and then wanting to see another superior person get degraded by something inferior. Anyone into that sort of porn is most likely both racist and misogynist(or just a black bro self inserting), that's why it's so popular in Asia.
>>724867484What am I being fed? If a game looks like trash then I just don't buy it. I don't cry and make myself look like a loser by turning to activism. You fags are literally the karens of vidya communities.
>>724867730uh oh brown melty
>>724867465If anything women characters have ruined gaming.
>>724850994If a porn game - then yes. If a dating sim - then yes. If a narrative game with romance elements that play off the characters and the plot, like for example Coffin of Andy and Leyley - then no.
>>724866046Is he still president? That was so funny
>>724866670>Just imagine if 4chuds did this kind of thing to western studios when they did censorship or made the girls uglyit would be based but consider that south korea is about the size of michigan's lower peninsula. western studios are spread out all over the us, canada, and europe. it'd be difficult to effectively bring together enough people when most of them are going to have to take a flight to get there. with south koreans protesting south korean studios, it's only a couple hours drive at most.
>>724866750>>724866670If I had to choose between the West's ugly emasculating bulldykes or the East's AGP sameface yuribait, I would just say the world would be better if video-games didn't exist period. Both types have the same amount of value, which is 0, and the same amount of disgusting degeneracy that doesn't appeal to the average straight man
>>724866497>>724866831holy kek
>>724867189you say this but a significant amount of BA players got pissy because they didn't like the way anime sensei was designed despite him being as plain as possible
>>724864186the funny thing is that they are all aware of the gesture, so they can't just ignore it.It's basically the same as what they try with misgendering or manspreading or all that shit.Virtually the exact same if the Wp gesture thing would've been taken more seriously.
>>724867465I said schizo on either side.
>>724868525Yeah because Yostar pulled their usual bullshit of queering him up. They even tried to make him a woman/androgynous originally before Nexon intervened. Still didn't stop them from having him act like a gay retard.
>>724868525I wanted sensei to look old and balding. How the fuck am I supposed to relate to THAT?
>>724868525What ricel can't self-insert as this guy? Surely only fat fucks were seething
>>724868597Nobody's going to harass you irl for misgendering except maybe in California. Reddit doesn't represent the real world.
>>724868663how do you read this back and not understand why people find you annoying
>>724867189Asians are responsible for the NTR boom
>>724864374S. Korean is just a gaze into the future of how bad the gender war is going to get in the west within the next decade or so.
>>724868792I would literally murder you in cold blood if I could get away with it. I don't give a single fuck what you think, faggot.
>>724868752You can get fired though
>>724868597Most people you meet IRL aren't the kind of chronically online idiots that are going to give you shit from any of that.
>>724868863sure thing doomie
>>724864914Basically boomers and boomer father pedos boycotting the young men. If course boomer women don't want to see their daughters winning by having kids, they want them to feel old once they reach 30 without childrenAlso it's pretty fucking sad to go after people who have nothing in life, like, wtf do you even want? You said men suck and ok, now those men want to be left alone
>>724868867omg so scary try it fagboy
>>724865385I used to not understand it but now I do, even if I don't like isekais life could be a lot better let's be honest, kids want a new life where they actually get the info their parents never gave them and actually enjoy a garden and a family
>>724866298Wow. I wish our chuds were this effective. SBI would evaporate into thin air in Worst Korea
>>724868867Even ironic this was just said.
>>724866046People need to understand feminism is not women vs men: it's women vs younger women and the prize is men (even if attention only)Reality is technology advanced enough to make lives easier and that younger girls are starting to see how being a wage slave sucks. If girls were truly free they would be allowed to marry young, instead now they need to start studying even sooner.
>>724864847>for youand the other 3 trillion gachaslobberSomeone who is more wealthy than you probably already cums in your waifus custom made sexdoll.>>724866497pretty sure there are many who abuse the paranoia. Those folded hands are either poorly drawn or actually sus. With art it's not so simple to make a mistake like this
As a 5'8" white manlet, who is slightly overweight. What are my odds of pulling a plastic surgery Kpop looking girl in SK, if I put a little effort into learning the language?
>>724863267As oppose to western men spending money on their girlfriend's son or gay men tackling or hugging each other in every sport game they worship?
>people play games for escapism and fun>"incels" don't want NTR>normalfags are okay with it????
>>724869461What incels consider NTR isn't NTR. That and cuck have lost all meaning these days.
>>724864091Shin pls
>>724869404Nick Plott that you?
>>724853014The western reaction to a bratty femboy is so different from the Korean's. I am not blaming the Koreans though, I've read about the horrible things they've been through.
>>724863267What should they waste their money on
>>724869461they see ntr when it isn't there, it's neurotic projection
>>724869572I'm a lot skinnier than him. Just a man with specific tastes
>>724869404Lose the weight..Koreans are very shallow
>>724867189The thought of challenging or pushing back against gynocentric societies is completely foreign to the westoid brain.
wait a minute, I just realized. they're muslims
>>724869461Why is that confusing?Normies are usually confident about their sex life, so seeing a bit of NTR isn't something that is going to emotionally hurt them.Incels instead experience "NTR" every day and are sick of it, so if they play something for escapism and end up reminded of that in any way, they are going to get seriously triggered.
>>724867864Thank you for proving my pointI'm a drawfren. If you're really insecure tell me who your waifu is?
>>724854169Doesn't that only happen if you basically force her into it?
>>724867189Do Koreans even care outside of gacha games? Stellar Blade had Adam, were they mad about him?
>>724868752>>724868903>except onlinehow is this different to the korean situation? Do they show up at your door with a knife?What the fuck do you think cancel culture is
The Chinese and Koreans are only like this because porn is banned over there. Gacha sluts are all they have left to coom to.
>>724850994Who cares what you label it is? If the majority find an element of the game unpleasant, it's your job as the developer to remove it. If you don't, you're shitting on your player base (and potential profits). Anything other than doing what the majority of the players want is taking an ideological standpoint.
>>724870562Fans running games has never worked in the history of gaming
>>724870368It's crazy how much gacha hentai there is compared to hentai for anything else. Anime and video game characters rarely get porn now, it's just vtubers and gachas.
>>724870268>Do they show up at your door with a knife?Yes.Asian societal pressure tends to produce many more schizos than in the west.And cancel culture is no longer as powerful as it was 10 years or so ago, things have changed.
>>724870139No, she makes comments about wanting to "climb Mt. Halsin" unprompted, even if you're interested in her. But she won't do it unless you give her your blessing like a better man.
>>724869461Maybe because only schizo incels would see the mere existence of another male as NTR?
>>724870368>ban porn to help birthrates>birthrates plummet even harderWhat's the next step of their master plan?
>>724855868>a new thingIt's not new at all. When Idolmaster introduced a male rival group, people went fucking mental at the thought of their idols possibly interacting with a male person.
>>724871148Forced breeding programs.
>>724870368Sauce?
>>724871148CRISPR test tube babies that come with plastic surgery preinstalled.
>>724850994I'm not Korean, so no.
This is why North Korea is Best Korea
>>724869391Young girls and women are also not happy about the pedophilia/sextortion telegram groups where korean men will even share lewd photos of their own kids just to fit in. Or scandals like the Burning Sun one, where rich chaebol men get to drug and rape women without consequences. But sure, it's just the men who are victimized by grumpy feminists, they dindu nuffin.
>>724871257That's really weird cause who do they think cheers on their idols?
>>724851173You made gachafags mad: >>>/vmg/1878174
>>724869461>little boy: *exists*this is what they consider to be NTRimagine being that fragile, that a small child mogs you
>>724863885Today, I will remind them
>>724870368imagine having no porn and feminist women that are pretty ugly on average anyway.>>724870740gacha is porn.https://lightbrd.com/neromashin001/status/1971135283908444414#m
>>724869916koreans and indians no, but all other turboincel groups tend to be muslims.It's because they've been taught since childhood that they deserve the world without doing anything to get it. No need for self-improvement of any kind, women are just supposed to jump on their cock because their sandnigger books say so or something.
>>724861842>>724861969>>724863732>>724865385I'm guessing the image is lies. Look at every single successful gatcha games. Outside HSR and the ones aimed just at women, they all have male protagonists (GFL1, GFL2, Nikke, BA etc) or both genders (FEH, Genshin, ZZZ etc).Outside of explicitly yuri games, I can't think of a single gatcha aimed at men that didn't let you play as a guy. The example in question, Snowbreak, also has a male protagonist, so...
>>724870740Anime is just ads for manga and merch. Non-gacha video games are toys for normies and foreign markets. Both of those media lost their edge and sex appeal long ago anyway.
>>724871901Never forget the bassist.
>>724871257I still remember when GBF did a Love Live collab and the llfags had a gigamelty over their pure aidorus interacting with males.
>>724871901I'm no purityfag, but she deserved the backlash. You don't just ignore the bassist.
>>724860409Yep, this.
>>724871901The funny thing is that she apparently did it all for a "Image" change so she could escape what she was seen as, but it didn't work out.
>>724871901Qrd?
>pick up pitchforks, molotovs, firearms, trucks and blimps to protest about story in jpeg casino>do NOT pick up pitchforks, molotovs, firearms, trucks and blimps to protest against corporation raping your country and yourself specifically
>>724872720Somethings you can change and other things you cannot change. They have better luck with the JPEGs.
>>724870726There's a difference between bad mechanics and shit story/characters.
>>724871901seiyuu are basically idols, it's like how that one idol had to shave her head bald in repentance for having a boyfriend but her career was still over anyway.
>>724872720You're only just now realizing that people care more about their escapisms than the actual state of the world they're already committed to escaping from?
>>724872720Remember Occupied Wallstreet? Remember how that turns out?
>>724872825Indeed, players should complain if the game has bad mechanics, but if they want the whole story changed then why even play that game? If the devs can't follow through with their artistic vision then it's just yet another hollow png collector app.
>>724871901do japs sincerely believe any 20+ year old pretty idol is actually a virgin LMAO
>>724872782So in other words, based asian freedom fighters can only protest against those who won't be able to defend themselves if things go south.
>>724873456It's the same everywhere. I've seen karens attack fanfic writers and artists for depicting incest, age gap and other problematic topics, claiming that they "promote" those bad things. It's much easier to harass a random creator hobbyist online, than to fix your society that lets predators walk free.
>>724869804they are under the spell of the vagina cult
>>724865104Genshin doesn't have any males
It's sort of like a crack dealer complaining the crackheads he sells crack to like crack. Gacha games entire business model revolves around selling escapism to horny losers, no shit they're going to have a problem with you implying the cute girl they spent thousands on doesn't like them. And you'd be right in pointing out that the "crack" is bad for them, but you built an entire company around distributing it you moron. If you want to write a real story, don't make a gacha game. It just doesn't work, the business model doesn't allow it, you're selling the character not the story.
>>724876528pretty much you see this in entertainment industry all the time. main character syndromethey want the security of a salary and easy money from gacha slop model but also get praise as if they have actual artistic merit like a political writer boldly publishing works under a dictaroship under threat of execution. like fuck off you have to choose. if you want toby fox individuality fame then you do the toby fox thing and do it yourself. otherwise take your fucking paycheque and name in the credits like a normal employee.
>>724867189>>724869804>>724875308Pathetic.
>>724871257>When Idolmaster introduced a male rival group, people went fucking mental at the thought of their idols possibly interacting with a male person.And they did the right thing by NOT removing the male idols, and instead doubling-down and introducing more of them.iDOLM@STER has now had a mixed gender cast for 15+ years, and has outlasted every other virtual idol franchise.This is how you keep a healthy fanbase, by telling the crazy people to fuck off.
>>724867645All of your mentioned games have female protagonists.
>>724872301I think the most unhinged version of this I’ve seen is the melty some BAfags threw when it had a collab with Mahjong Soul.Because it was cheating on them to make those characters available in a tile clacking game.Nigger you’re not the only person to roll your waifu, you realize that?
>>724877981if i remember that situation right, they made it so (You) could romance mutsuki insie of mahjong soul, so since people didn't play that game they felt like they were getting cucked. i agree it was stupid because it was literally (You) who romanced her in the game.
>>724873401There's a difference between having a boyfriend, and fucking every single member of the band you play with (except the bassist). One if being a normal human bean, the other is being a whore. Regardless, its expected for a public figure to separate there personal life, if I follow a media creator for how cute they are, I don't want to know what their BF looks like, keep that shit private.
>another thread of people who spend their life caring about pixels making fun of others who care about pixelsWhere did all the self aware high IQ posters go?
>>724877981I love how you magically forgot how those characters give zero shits about the BA main character, but in mahjong soul they instantly fall in love with him, begging him to not let them return to BA. Very organic.
>>724878801Not in 4chan, and certainly not in /v/, in which people spend their life caring about pixels.
>>724878758>keep that shit privateThey do, then paparazzi take a picture of them holding hands with their bf and psychos like you lose their minds.
>>724850994the problem is how they approach this, for exampl:>the game start with letting you name the character>they made you feel that you are the main character of the story>they made the story around you>suddenly outtanowere they introduce another character than for some reason is better or it's made better than you of course some people are going to complain. Devs should stop following the main character story (ala genshin, wuwa, etc..) if they want to develop other ones, just make the game a 3pov and you can ship or not the characters all you want
>>724879087Nah I'm perfectly fine with Chiwa Saitou being married, because I self insert into her husband. But if word got out that she was fucking around with 20 black niggas I would personally nuke the whole of asia.
>>724878856It’s (You). There is no character. There’s no sprite. It’s all first person.
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>>724861981>owen is the female writers OC he did not exist until the rewriteThat conflicts with the stuff other anons are saying about him originally being the Captains son in the original script.Which is it?
>>724880352what is this? genuine question
>>724880631It's showing the edit from the other versions of the game to show how they avoid a gesture in the korean version to not anger people.You know how people sometimes gap their pointer finger and thumb to demonstrate the size of something small? that gesture is avoided in korea because it causes a lot of guys to get upset and feel they are being mocked and insulted by using the gesture to say they have a small penis.You might say that is crazy, and it is, but the situation is actively a massive shitshow in korea and the guys aren't fully to blame for their insanity.As far as I have learned from these threads.>there is an ongoing gender war in korea>Korea's previous president was being controlled by feminist cult that made all her decisions>there are radical feminists just as crazy in korea that started using this gesture to insult people and even supposedly infiltrated other gacha games in an attempt to sink it and ruin it by drastically altering the storyThis one takes a lot to explain, but it was some big gacha game, and it almost got banned in CN because of Tianamin square references they suddenly added and more.There's more but i forget them offhand, and this might not all be 100% correct.TL:DRthe gesture of using your finger and thumb to show something as small enrages koreans because they think they are subtly being insulted with the gesture as it means they have a small penis.
>>724880352What is kind of fucked up is that finger pinch really is a totally natural hand position, I could 100% see an artist forgetting until after they'd drawn it. Not defending feminist death cults, just a silly side effect of this stuff.
>finally got renoa>also managed to snag the cool skeleton magician guy and some generic looking rich anime dude>have to spend a bunch of aether stamina grinding them up.I'm going to focus on renoa and the skeleton guy. Is there any sort of card/epiphany, equipment, or really anything I should keep an eye out to build renoa's decks?The skeleton guy is cool, but at brief glance his deck seems to be about drawing cards, but with such limited action points is it really worth it if he doesn't seem to do as much damage or healing?
>>724881858There is no gameplay discussion to have here. Also, that cool skeleton dude is cucking you with renoa
>>724882536Can I at least fuck the skeleton in response?
>>724851087I would be too if I was retarded enough to play gachas and pay money for a hoe just for them to orbit some other guy.
>>724875779true
>>724851254>This is like thinking Edge cucks you because he and Rydia have a romance even though Cecil has Rosa. Can we not have stories where other characters have relationships?People usually play gacha for the character collection aspectCollecting every character takes a lot of expensive resources and/or money, and it's much harder to get someone to roll for a waifu if that waifu is already in a relationshipIn gacha it's also common for the MC to not be in a relationship so the devs can continue ship-teasing with future characters, while in FF4 Cecil/Rosa were already together iirc
>>724884047Why am I hard?
>>724882870No, the skeleton laughs at how pathetic you are, maybe they'll send you a video about how good he fucked renoa if you grovel.
>>724853014is this real, lol?
What the fuck is NTR
>>724884317anything that makes a straight make hard is a girl, you are looking at girls
>>724885412*male
>>724872641Voice actress that wanted to get into singing and alienated her fanbase by talking shit about otaku fans. She was later dropped by her record label after it was revealed that she fucked everyone from her back up band (except for the bassist)
>>724884047Bulges aren't that prominent under qipaos.
>>724864091chinks would've burned kuro to the ground over 2.7 if galbrena had been a male.
>>724886427As a bassist, this is very insulting. Fuckin bitch
>>724884317ur gey
>>724850994>gamers keeping companies in check and forcing them to pander to them or die>/v/ goys want me to believe this is bad for some reason???
>>724886684spoken like an expert
>>724887241Gachas are player-pleasers by nature, it's how they make their money. There's a limit to tolerating the playerbase's mental illness though, at some point they start deserving ridicule.
>>724886912Only a little
>>724887689And who crowned you as the arbiter of that? You neither play nor give money to these games, who are you to mandate when its ridiculous? You can go play nu god of war 2 or the last of us 2 if you want a game that appeals to you.
>>724850994NTRannies invade just about any community so not having male side characters is common sense gatekeeping
>>724869253The problem is that it is consoomslop in its purest form. Like another anon said previously, you have to make a choice. You can't have your cake and eat it too. It's either the path of artistic integrity or the path of selling diaper furry porn for the easy money and enabling NEET addictions for profit. You certainly can't have both and very often, Big name isekais tend to make an attempt at pretending it is something it is not by injecting artificial depth to something that is inherentlt clichéd and re-heated.If your business deals in crack distribution, you can't expect your customers to have higher intellectual needs and desires>>724869391Not even men understand that it's not a competition of the sexes and masculinists always make the mistake of taking a position of rivalry with women, but we're not even playing on the same field.Podcast bros make a fortune off of the "women do this, men do that" formula when it's not even relevant anymore. It's as good as crying about tylhe fact that women have periods and we don't. Ain't nothing ever gonna change about that.
>>724865385Imo you're looking at it in the wrong way. If you translate these slop-type anime into the real world, you would see the following:>Kicked out of super awesome adventuring party / fired from your company>Party slowly collapses / company goes to shit because you were actually importantSo on and so forth, the same thing for isekai, it would be a translation with the protagonist spiritually retiring, but instead of blasting his savings on a casino, it's a slow life with a thai femboy on a nice farm.
>>724872096all of those games are global oriented
>>724865270chinese companies releases product for male pacificationwestestn studios receive money from kikes that endlessly print it so they can create whatever bullshit they desire
>>724889583I honestly rather be peaceful than enraged all the time.
>>724853190Millium was removed from the romance options as early as CS2 once they realized the character flopped and needed Altina (who is ultimately just Better Tio) to get people investing the Black Workship plot. >>724853309Jusis did get Millium though.
>>724863573>>724869614Why are people acting like he didnt get all the attention while the commander player character gets talked down to and berated? The story was literally taken over for this reason along with the artwork.
>>724888831Just don't cry when your incel tantrum gets ridiculed.
>>724890013stop being obsessed with us whites ranjitworry about your own shithole
>>724890231>be gook>start talking about nigger penis out of nowhereWhy is it so common?
>>724877981The few problems with the mahjong collab that makes it shitter than your average collab>outfit is more revealing than their blue archive versions>they completely forgot about sensei, the voice lines use jyanshi>affection voice lines talking about how they wanna stay in the mahjong soul world
>>724891038I don't give a shit about who is ridiculing me nigga, I just want to have a waifu game I can play on my way to work without having to worry about random males appearing in the game.Like, imagine trying to jerk off to some porn but there is a 15 minute interlude in which they only show the dude dick, nigga I don't wanna see that.
>>724890231>I am not the center of the universe in the video game I play>actual suffering and oppression
>>724891573So did you just ignore the info of the co-opted story and deliberate usage of the hand symbol to make fun of the player?
>>724891705Yes, for your sake. It's a video game and a hand gesture. Get a grip.
>>724891390lmao imagine taking corporate shill voicelines that seriouslyit's not like they can shit on the mahjong game either
>>724891748I have a grip, I simply dont play it or give it money. I still feel like its fine to call it out. You do the same thing for Western games when they force their politics up your asshole.
>>724891748I hope by getting a grip you mean stop giving those devs your money.
>>724891863Sure, but I wouldn't call it suffering or oppression.>I simply dont play it or give it moneyGood for you.>>724891892That's one way to do it.
>>724886427oh hell didn't know that. She really tried to be a stage slut fuck I will never listen to God Knows the same way
>>724891748They can't get a grip because that would mean holding the fingers in an insulting position
>>724892161kek
>>724892014I mean if you flip shit around and go into every media curated for women and fill it with ways to demean them and mock their body it certainly would be viewed that way.Love and deepspace should add a female char with huge tits that all the guys praise and love. She also makes fun of the flatty self insert.
>>724892283Isn't that already the case which lead to the insane cultural obsession with plastic surgery? All Asians are on some status shit, but Koreans are next level autism all around.
By giving renoa massive amounts of schizophrenia, I have ensured my hand is 30-50% bullets at all times.
>>724892742Yeah, but the point is that they don't make fun of their ugly teeth and non existent tits and ass in videogames, and if they did they would flip out.Meanwhile while a game does make fun of asian men and they call it out you say they are autistic.
>>724895315It just feels melodramatic to frame woes in first world hobbies as suffering and oppression. If it helps I think chuds crying about western game woes are also autistic when they cry about muh Witcher 4 Ciri and whatnot.
>>724895950Not him, but the south korean situation seems a bit more unique considering the gender politics and supposed feminist cult and radical groups going around and doing unhinged shit.I guess the closest western equivalent would be the sweet baby games shit.When weird shit keeps happening, people are less likely to dismiss it as a accidental or a coincidence.
>>724853376The issue with Gachas is that they're usually made for self-inserting and waifufagging, focusing on a male MC takes away from self-inserters ability to self-insert (the less generic an MC is, the less your everyman can self-insert) and since you're not focusing on waifus, you're pissing off waifufags who want their waifus to have as much screen time as possible.Bugs are so sensitive that they see the mere presence as another male as getting cucked.That being said, shipbaiting a waifu with a male character is retarded. I would say just make your male characters have pre-established relationships, but then the chinks get upset they can't have the male character's wife and are getting cucked by him.
>>724892283It's hard to mock them when they all have a humiliation fetish and are constantly dishonest in public.
>>724851087It's way worse than you think
>>724867770Finally someone explaining it properly
i don't know what ntr means and i've used 4chan for almost 20 years
>>724851087The target audience (chink, gook, jap ricecels, and SEAdog incels) are this sensitive, yes.
>>724852492You're literally brown
>>724852675This kekGachashit is always bottom of the barrel
>>724853118>They are subhuman cucks There
>>724850994Well, translated the entire section. Not sure why the text on the right is only 1/3 or a 1/4 of what is written out.Definitely baited
>>724853376They can't self insert otherwise Gachashit faggots are subhuman Never forget that
>>724895315It's just the usual, men are mocked way more often in first world countries
>>724864376based /pol/xitter neonazi white supremacists being mainly Indonesian, Mexican and Filipino isn't a meme.
>>724863885>We're going to get to the point where the VA's have to be unmarried virgins.Gachashit faggots are subhuman More news at 11
>>724853014Redditors love to get cucked?
>>724863885>We're going to get to the point where the VA's have to be unmarried virgins.I wish.
>>724853014>redditors are racist towards AsiansSince when is this thing? What happened to Stop Asian Hate.
>>724900089Do you perceive life as a series of /pol/ non sequitur memes?
>>724862445Right wingers don’t play gacha games… They’re not manchildren, they have jobs and kids.
>>724900197Where do you think you are right now to lie this fucking blatantly?
>>724900197My spirit animal is a right-winger but that doesn't mean I want to legally bind myself to a roastie or pay taxes to the ZOG.
Bump limit!
>>724863876This but the MC is the one getting stolen.
>>724864186It's like the nigger word of Korea.
>500 post thread and nobody pointed out OP is about snowbreak and not CZN
>>724902546Those words mean nothing to me.
You guys have been paying and rolling to fap to the devs own female OCs. You gatchatards have always been Netrorared.
>>724903035Isn't that technically true for any sort of hentai?It's someone's OC
>>724903313Somebody is paying for Hentai? Uh-Oh, we need to go back.
>>724903440>payingno?
