>>724858494
western crpgs they are essentially single player mmos.

>>724858494
Play Xenoblade Chronicles, I started doing sidequests and it felt like I was playing a fucking MMO by myself.

Besides a wow single player server with bots?
Dragon's Dogma I'd say.
But no single player game offers the infinite skinner box experience as far as I know.
>>724858564
You've never played one.

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>>724858494
Grim dawn, deep char building, customization and hundreds of hours of content to go through

Kingdoms of Amalur really feels like exploring a MMO world as a single player campaign. Too bad the balance of progression is fucked both in original and remaster, the game gets way too easy way too quickly.

>>724858643
but peeps call it grim yawn?

>>724858697
>listening to poe-tards running smear campaign
just ignore them

>>724858772
will you gift me some starter gear if i buy it?

why dont you want to interact with people anymore?

>>724858643
>>724858697
Grim Dawn is great, but it is an arpg. The Grim Yawn meme is there, because it starts pretty slow, but once you play it enough to appreciate the depth you can get many hours of fun out of it
>>724858631
Xenoblade chronicles is probably the best option for this if you can stomach the anime stuff. The combat is really reactive and fun and the character progression is very solid.
>>724858687
Amalur can get real easy if you let it, but it is probably the closest thing to WoW you can play alone in terms of visuals. The first zone you start in is basically ashenvale.

>>724858494
Skyrim.

>>724858821
its a singleplayer ARPG, the entire point is to find your own gear and make your char stronger for progressively harder late game.

FF12 and Xenoblade Chronicles are the earliest examples that didn't even pretend to be anything else but single player MMOs. I'm sure there are tons of others since.

>>724858973
>stomach the anime stuff
Who the fuck even comes to this place that doesn't even like anime stuff?

>>724858494
Just play wow with bots (azeroth core/wow spp), similar games (erenshor) or sim games.
I wouldn't recommend xenoblade 1 (which I like personally), only the 1st game has the heavy grind of a mmo for no reason (and it's absolutely terrible), and people who usually like playing wow hates anime games. Though, Xenoblade X is way better on this aspect.

>>724859125
I didn't think Xenoblade had too much of a grind I thought it was well balanced

>>724858494
FF12
Xenoblade Chronicles (Particularly 1 and X)
The Last Story
Dragon's Dogma
Kingdoms of Amalur
ARPGs (personally can recommend Grim Dawn, Diablo 2, Van Helsing, Titan Quest)
Divinity Original Sin 2(Also BG3 but the gear progression there is more traditional RPG than MMO-like)

>>724859048
These, and Phantasy Star singleplayer games post PSO

>>724858494
wow is essentially a single player game for 90% of content

>>724858494
swtor

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>>724858494
Singleplayer WoW

>>724858494
Guild Wars 1 can be played solo

Xeno X pretty much feels like it was supposed to be an MMO, same for Kingdoms of Amalur (because it was lol)

>>724859250
how's the scripting?

>>724859161
I don't think it's well balanced. I mean, the farming may be kind of okay, but the game doesn't really do a good job of giving you the quests themselves.
I don't want to have to use a google doc to track what quests I did/which NPC gives quest/Their location and a what time they appear. The Nopon tree city was especially one of the worst hub of the game...
That, and you outlevel everything and anything quickly the moment you start doing quests. It doesn't feel great at all. Meanwhile X (at least the remastered version, never played the original) at the very least display what's available on the map.

>>724859250
I read here that SPP is a repack of old scripts and AzerothCore is the one updated.

>>724859420
I played the definitive edition so I remember it showing all the quest locations, it was pretty easy. Also in your first post you said the game had a heavy grind but then you said the you outlevel everything if you start doing quests?

>>724859365
Haven't noticed many issues but at the same time it doesn't matter because you can just use GM commands to fix or skip stuff. Granted, I've only played Vanilla and TBC so far so WOTLK might be a bit buggy

>>724859465
I dunno, SPP had a patch few months ago and it works much better now, good enough for what I need from it

>>724859465
they both have codes of conduct dont use them

>>724859487
Sorry, I guess I meant more annoying than heavy. Though I do remember some quests having abyssal droprate. For me, these quests were mostly fillers and they didn't hold any kind of quality.

Dragon Quest X has an english patch. It's not the whole thing but it's somewhere over 150 hours to where you will likely lose interest anyway. You have 1 character with jobs to grind. Other party members cannot have their job changed.
Kingdoms of Amalur is maligned as mmo adjacent. Similarly it has more content than the gameplay really warrants. There really isn't much in the way of character progression.

Sacred 2

>open world, like most MMOs
>build variety, deep character building
>separate armor pieces for head, torso, shoulders, arms, hands, belt, legs, and feet and they all appear on the character, and there are tons of visual variations for each

>>724858687
Amalur set level areas based on your level first entering them which is at least better than always scaling them.

>>724859161
Grind is insane if you want to kill the out of the way enemies with levels well above 100 but I don't think just playing it while exploring everywhere would require much or any. If you read a guide and go directly to the objectives you will probably get fucked into grinding constantly.

>>724859465
It's fine but you should really go with Azerothcore. Also compile it yourself instead of using a repack

>>724858494
Xenoblade series are offline MMOs.

Xenoblade X goes even further by cutting away most of the story that the other Xenoblades have, and lets you create and fully customize a character.

>>724858494
Adding CrossCode to the list, which I never finished because the world seemed very big with a real grind, but I think it's the kind of thing you're looking for.

>>724859250
Why do they insist on being stuck in that time period?
The ideal WoW would have all of the content but allow the player to pick their expansion tier of class mechanics they want to use.

>>724860173
... why don't you just go work on that then? Maybe you'll understand the astronomical work required to do that (which even Blizzard never did beyond SoP).
Little bro probably thinks he can snap his finger and the AI will do everything lmao.

>>724858494
Sandbox games
Warband has trillion overhaul mods with different settings, you can get at the very least 500 hours out of it without touching vanilla
Bannerlord is on similar vein, you have a nice and solid progression and empire building
Kenshi (provided you don't mod on 200 squad armies ot should be stable and load within reasonable time)
ARPGs like Diablo, Sacred, Grim Dawn, PoE all provide same core experience
if all fails you can now host local private server for wow with bots up to 3.3.5 without bugs

ill play with you anon..

>>724860110
The story and setting of Xenoblade were the only things it had going for it. The other one I played may as well have had randomly generated terrain it was so boring.

>>724859827
They changed that in the remaster and made enemies always scale to the player's level, but the scaling is constrained. Enemies can only scale to a fixed minimum and maximum level, defined per area.

probably Kingdoms of Amalur if you want a true single-player MMO experience.

Erenshor is another upcoming SP MMO game, even has a bunch of computer-controlled PCs running around you can group and do content with

Aarklash - Legacy is a good game with MMO mechanics, feels similar to the old WC3 custom map games

If you want something more of a boss rush with distilled down MMO mechanics and some customization/progression, Savage: Ultimate Boss Fight is a recent one that's really impressed me

I'm sure there are a few others, but this was just off the top of my head

>>724860269
There have been servers for MoP for a long time. Wrath ones have to be like 15 years old by now. I've never played any past that but I have to assume most of the work has already been done, probably repeatedly. Sure scripting animations of quest npcs would be annoying but who gives a fuck as long as they are standing in place to hand out the quest and accept it being turned in.

what about Torchlight? that game is kawaii desu

>>724859238
same with FFXIV honestly. Especially with the Trust/Duty Support system, you can do basically 98% of the main story without even having to group with other people. You can play the entire game without having to speak to anyone though

>>724859183
>The Last Story
underrated gem from the Wii days. Definitely worth a playthrough if you can swing it

>>724858494

Isn’t FF14 meant to be designed so that you could solo the game if you want?

>>724858494
If you want to grind without human interaction, Warframe will give you thousands of hours.
Everything in game is through mission nodes. If someone is already there you will join their group, if not you start one automatically. You can set solo if you want. Everything in game is easy enough to do solo, but other players can't really hinder you outside of spy missions where they screw up unlocking a vault. Noone will expect you to interact with them.

just play monster hunter solo

There is ye olde open source online RPG Crossfire that does provide fun just playing it solo.

https://crossfire.real-time.com/

There is also another large project Deliantra that started out as a Crossfire fork.

http://www.deliantra.net/

>>724860591
their code is closely guarded
only 1-2 servers had nigh flawless experience, others were complete hackjobs
wotlk/nilla is the preferred choice for open source community

>>724860687
Suffers from forcing motion controls. It's ok if you can get past that.

>>724860714
No, there are dozens of mandatory trials, and even a mandatory raid quest line.

>>724860864
fair enough on the trials, although 99% of the MSQ trials are complete face rolls. Same with the raid series as well. And in each instance you don't have to speak or even communicate with other players

>>724860913
but they might try to speak to you which leaves you with the dilemma of ignoring them or not

>>724858494
i have this in my backlog, it's another failed MMORPG converted singleplayer (w/ 3 player co-op)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1171690/Wayfinder/
And a bit of tangent but a lot of Chinese singleplayer RPGs are built like korean MMOs.

what is the obsession with making singleplayer games feel like MMOs?
MMOs' gameplay and how the work are usually just bastardized version of SP RPGs because they had to remold them to multiplayer requirements AND they are often based on archaic as fuck "kill x number of y monsters there" depth quests
like>>724860572
>Erenshor is another upcoming SP MMO game, even has a bunch of computer-controlled PCs running around you can group and do content with
why the fuck not just make a singleplayer game with clever npc party(like Dragon's Dogma) in a more detailed non-MMO environment instead?

>>724858494
Souls games

Erenshor is designed to be a single player MMO, the other 'players' are all simulated and a few are programmed to act pretty goofy, they argue in chat too. You have to excuse the Synty? assets though.

>>724860972
standard practice is to just ignore them, 99% of players understand that

>>724861037
>why the fuck not just make a singleplayer game with clever npc party(like Dragon's Dogma) in a more detailed non-MMO environment instead?
...because that's the niche of players they're catering to? Do you really need this spelled out for you anon?

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>>724859048
>sure there are tons of others since.
WHEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
the only ones with the tab combat I got are
>FF 11 & FF 13 (& 14)
>Xenoblade Chronicles 1-3
>White Knight Chronicles 1 & 2
>Sword Art Online early PSP games
>Earth Seeker
>.hack//fragment
>Sword & Fairy 6
>Xuan Yuan Sword: The Gate of Firmament
and half of those lack the normal mmo trappings

genuinely surprised how many people seem to want a SP MMO experience nowadays. Guess they just gave up on the hope that the next "golden age" MMO would ever come out

>>724860665
I don't think OP is looking for a visual novel. There is no gameplay in XIV in the MSQ.

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>>724858494
Just play literally any mainstream MMO. They've ruined the genre specifically to appeal to subhumans like you.

>>724858494
Erensgore’s gimmick is that it’s a mmo but all the other chars are scripted

>>724861338
not in ARR at least, that's for sure. It picks up in the later expansions though, but you're asking for a hundreds of hours long commitment to get there

>>724861389
just play FFXI with the other 60 year old fossils if you want the old school MMO experience

>>724860851
That's only if you play it with wiimote/nunchuck, the game is fully playable with just a controller.

>>724861471
I mean, the MSQ is basically cutscenes upon cutscenes. There are almost 0 combat inbetween quests (and the combat in the field? 2-3 enemies, wow so original). The dungeons are mostly meh (not even accounting playing with trust, which is more boring).
OP looks for something of a grind, I don't think XIV will satisfy him, it's not like you can tell him "there is more grind to but it's after 300h of MSQ". Might as well tell op to go play WoW retail, which has gameplay (and no story).

>>724860913
I only played it a decade ago but the multiplayer shit you are forced into is really antisocial because there will be a video you're watching and the rest of the group will be going on without you.

>>724861037
FFXII solved the party member control problem but it was too complicated for the NPC audience they wanted.

The Black Grimoire: Cursebreaker is an osrs-style singleplayer game, with all the autistic levelling you could hope for!

>>724861389
>he thinks mmos are dying only because they were appealing to new players, and not because internet has evolved in 2 decades, communicating is beyond easy with discord, different generations playing (good luck trying to make zoomers play your shit)
Are you a wildstar dev? Because that's the kind of ABSOLUTELY RETARDED (brain tumor style) shit they'd say. And, look what they quickly became.

>>724861218
>I want the dogshit version of the normal thing
okay

would pokeman count as this sort of game?

>>724861670
>>724861471
I gave FFXIV an honest chance, I spent 20 hours just doing fetch quests and oneshotting enemies because of the XP boost just to watch a mediocre story unfold. I gave up. The zones look pretty, though. But I was so fucking bored. I shouldn't have to play a game and only be able to get through it with a movie on my second monitor.

I've seen a few anons mention single player wow recently. I've been playing Anniversary and haven't played any other iteration of WoW since vanilla.
Can I create a max level character to practice raids? Or are the bots not good enough for raids? Or is the latter possible but I have to get to max level manually.

Nioh 2 completely satisfied my gear grind itch. If you like action rpgs but also a gear treadmill and character progression you can chase for a month, I recommend it. You have to farm up rare drop skills from bosses and shit, even though it doesn't actually play like a MMORPG it hit the same buttons for me.

>>724862197
if you want more of that progression grind then the crafting/gathering side might've been more your speed. Especially the fishing, that shit is surprisingly deep

>>724861779
I know exactly what MSQ quests you're talking about, they patched it so that you're forced to watch the cutscenes as a group. I had the same thing happen to me when I played it a decade ago too

OSRS is great if you want to play an MMO and never interact with anyone.

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>>724858697
Yes, that's me. I call it grim yawn.

>>724861943
I don't disagree with you, but a lot of people actually do want the dogshit version of the normal thing (partially because unlike us they never got that "gold standard" mmo experience from back in the day)

>>724862371
NTA but I disagree with crafting/gathering. It's the same, forever, for all jobs. People heavily bot it with plugins too nowadays. It's worthless and frankly "high level" crafting is basically making macros.
You can't tell someone to keep playing XIV (while he was bored from the MSQ's pace and non combat) for the crafting and gathering...
Fishing, on the other point, is cool.

>>724862468
then why did you play it for 750 hours dummy?

>>724858494
Dragon Quest 9 but aesthetics might put you off. Great customization and grind potential thoughbeit!

>>724862550
Because it's a great game. Will probably play 200 hours more when Fangs of Asterkarn releases.

>>724862532
fair point, I was mainly thinking about fishing when talking about the non-combat stuff. If you do want the combat with a bit more variety, blue mage is pretty entertaining

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>>724858494
Try No Rest for the Wicked

>>724858494
genshin has a stupidly huge world to explore, and covers all the different vibes you want from an MMO really well, from epic bosses and long term storytelling, to little slice of life stuff, decorating a personal space, casual little events and minigames, finding secrets and puzzles in the world, grinding for materials or just generally grinding progression.
through it is pretty hamstrung as a gacha you don't really have chargen or builds. very limited access to characters (bcause gacha), and you just put the "correct" gear on them and slowly grind for slightly better passive secondary stats over time.

GW1 is also a good shout, it is an MMO but you can just play through the various campaigns with NPC party. it's still quite a beautiful game with good fundamental mechanics, though the UI and controls are a bit dated.

not to mention even as an MMORPG, OSRS is 90% singleplayer, or 100% if you want. most of the player interaction is passive anyway like minigame worlds, the GE, and some bosses (there are other people in the same instance but it doesn't effect you)

>I don't want to play an MMORPG
>"here's this MMORPG you could play"
you guys need to work on your reading comprehension honestly

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>>724859683
zased, so fvncking zased.......

sacred also had mounts in their games before diablo 4, that goes for 1 and 2

final fantasy 16 is structured like an mmo with the fetch quests and the combat is about cycling cooldowns in a rotation to do damage.

>>724862692
>early access
fuck off

>>724862747
>I don't want to interact with people
modern MMOs don't even make you actively engage with people unless it's the higher tiers of content. nothing matchmade in FF14 or WoW has any active interaction, people may as well be bots in roulette / LFR.

>>724862769
I liked the first one but building your character with the random rune drops that sometimes weren't even for your class was ass

>>724862702
I got a solid 60 hours of free enjoyment out of Genshin on release, mostly because I got a lucky pull and got Venti early on. His traversal ability makes exploring the world actually enjoyable. Without that I would've quit much earlier

>>724862879
Funny how you didn't seem to object to any of the other functionally EA ARPGs in this thread

>>724862968
ok sorry for not clarifying.

*ahem* ALL early access games in this thread are shit and you should not even consider paying or playing them until they actually release.

>>724862702
>through it is pretty hamstrung as a gacha you don't really have chargen or builds. very limited access to characters (bcause gacha), and you just put the "correct" gear on them and slowly grind for slightly better passive secondary stats over time.
yeah genshin is pretty much trash because of the gacha element, it strangles the whole game
also the combat is dogshit because they had to make something that fits mobiles
would be great otherwise

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>>724862947
>venti traversal

>>724858494
Dragon's dogma maybe? I didn't finish it or get very far but it felt like that sorta game.

>>724862912
counterpoint: op clearly stated "single player games"

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There sure is a lot of talk in a thread of people who don't want to interact with other people

>>724863063
I only played the game on release and quit the moment I felt any gacha pressure, which was around 60 hours in. Immediately uninstalled and haven't gone back since

>>724863098
>I didn't finish it or get very far
rectify that mistake immediately

>>724863121
speaking with other like-minded faggots on a mongolian basket-weaving forum is quite different than depending on like-minded faggots to resolve mechanics properly or know their rotations

The Black Grimoire, which is runescape inspired
Also theres this game called 9th dawn, i bought the third one but the combat wasn't for me

>>724862923
its been some years since i played it but i remember you being able to trade in runes for ones you actually want, i remember it was with the wizard guy i think

>>724860285
Speaking of warband, The Last Days is a pretty solid LotR experience that's somewhat close to traditional RPG

>>724858494
I guess mowowind? It sort of feels almost like an MMO somewhat

>>724860714
there's literally no customization whatsoever i ff14

>>724858494
Litterally Genshin Impact.

World bigger than WoW and basically is single player MMO

>>724858697
It is boring, slow and repetitive, and for all the builds I tried, the skills felt like shit. But I kept coming back to it, until I finally beat it. I thought the final bosses were kinda shitty and disappointing, though. But now I'm excitedly waiting for the third expansion! I recommend it, but I'd still call it grim yawn. That being said, I don't recommend it as a substitute for an MMO... although mmos tend to be boring like that.

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>>724858494
oblivion remastered is excellent. and if, like me, you're under 30-35, oblivion remastered is definitely a good deal. even if you are grandpa

>>724863760
>be an old man
>back in the day i fell for todd's lies and got the oblivion collector's edition in the promise that it was a forever game and way better than rmmos like ff11 and wow
>play it
>it sucks
>want to go back playing a mmo instead
fool me once...

F12 is peak offline mmo

>>724863760
Nah it's not a good deal. I'm a big oblivion fan and I feel cheated. Better to pirate it if you ever want to try it out.

>>724863760
what >>724864567 said, it's criminally (heh) easy to pirate it anyway. No reason to spend your hard-earned wagie bux

>>724861943
There are people that like the 'setting' of a MMO but not actually relying on other players.

>>724859250
WOW private server? But you cant do raids

>>724858494
Dragon Age Origins (has a lot of mods)
Eldars Scroll Oblivion and Skyrim (has a lot of mods)
The Witcher 1 -3
Dragons Dogma 1 and 2
Xenoblade Chronicles
Kenshi
Mount & Blade series
Monster Hunter series
Kingdoms of Amalur

>>724864979
Yes you can

hear me out, god of war 2018 had a good experience that simulated "people" accompanying you, because there's actually so much banter dialogue that it never repeats until you've finished all of the end-game including valkyries

>>724866938
I regret hearing you out.......

>>724866938
>what is a party
are you 10? did you ask mommy to use internet?

>>724858494
Play ESO or Fallout 76 just doing the main story. It becomes like online Skyrim/fallout 4.

>>724858494
Dragon Age Origins. Some even mock it for it's mmo gameplay. That and FF XII had a really cool way of making sure your teammates behave the way you want them to in battle (tactics system and gambit system respectively). It is a shame that such a system never returns in a more refined way with more option and possibly even on a larger scale, like raid-group sized. Would love tinkering with my characters scripting until I get them to the point where they can take on raidbosses and effectively play their part while I can focus on playing my own char at the same time except for a bit of micro-managing here and there.

>>724867332
>online Skyrim/fallout 4.
that sounds horrible though?

>>724867332
No it doesn't. Stop lying to people. It's a very different experience, even if they try to copy it.

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Xenoblade chronicles X and only X. Customizable PC, branching dialog, and a map that's bigger than most video games combined.
The REAL answer though is the game that one single player MMO from all those talent blizzard employees Guild Wars 1

>>724858494
Runescape

>>724858687
I remember a rumor that Amalur was a canceled MMO that got repurposed into an action adventure game to avoid it being a total loss.
Never found out if it was true, but it sure fuckin' felt like it.

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>>724862769
>remaster comes out in 7 days
Interesting timing to find out about this game that looks like shit.
And it's the kind of shit I probably want.

>>724869680
theres a fucking remaster?

>>724869789
Soon. https://store.steampowered.com/app/3906660/Sacred_2_Remaster/
>As a special bonus, every purchase also includes the original Sacred 2 Gold — the complete classic edition for those who want to experience the game as it was first released.
Okay it might actually be worth considering.

>>724858697
retards dont know about changing the game speed via CE or some other shit

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>>724858494
I've been trying to find stuff like that since forever. I've downloaded random private local server shit in ragezone but every one of them is just trash. I've played TrinityS but singleplayer is basically just a demo with the harder difficulty being multiplayer only.

There is a game called Elegy of Fate which got taken down and renamed to Chaos Entropy that does have MMO combat but I've only spent a couple hours into it because it was so janky and the 'exploration' segments didn't need to be there at all.
Only FF12 scratched that itch.
I now just try to find games that provide that sense of adventure and in the end I just came back to playing JRPGs.

>>724870034
I tried out your pic related game and it's total dogshit

>>724862692
No. Never try this unholy dogshit. It's just an amalgamation of the worst mechanics in video game history and tries to pass it off as revolutionary game design.
Plus it flopped and is still in early access.

>>724858636
Dragon's Dogma is pretty good but I hate how the console design holds it back. The abilities are so fucking limited because they had to accommodate the controller. It kinda works when you're using a shield since you get 3 shield skills and 3 weapon skills but for everyone else shit sucks.

>>724858494
Kingdoms of Amalur is basically this

>>724858494
there's some WoW server that is single player with AI bots running around
you can invite them to groups and run dungeons and raids with them, but pretty sure you yourself have to control them and I think it's only as far as Cataclysm right now

>>724861030
I really like that they converted it into offline/coop. Great to see when 99% of games in a similar situation would've got shut down. What I hate though is that it has a bunch of premade named characters. I don't want to play a premade character in my RPG:

>>724862481
I think a lot of Erenshor support came from EQ oldbeards who wanted to return to that sort of classic experience but they don't have time to play online anymore.

>>724870034
those visuals are disgusting

>>724858643
Too bad the devs have something against sexy women and make all the armor look shit on them.

>>724861030
They made it a singleplayer game? KEK

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>>724858494
Play single player MMOs like Erenshor.