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Now that the dust has settled, why did Dragon Quest lose all of its relevancy to Final Fantasy?
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>>724864002
Release timing and skipping the entire SNES generation.
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>>724864087
I doubt people would've been clamoring for Dragon Quest V when it was competing with Final Fantasy IV and Chrono Trigger, all while looking like this.
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>>724864002
They never capitalize on its momentum. Release a DQ, followed by like 7 years of nothing, release another DQ.
It took like 7 versions, but XI did well in the West. Then the Hero got into Smash, and a lot more eyes were on Dragon Quest, and what exactly did they do with all of that momentum? Nothing.
Release Gacha, only to EoS it after its 1st anniversary.
One low-budget spin-off after another. All look and run like shit.
Release these 3 games with the same HD2D Engine, which look lazy as fuck, especially since the Player Characters aren't animated.
Social Media channels? Dead silent as always. No motion.
Merch? JP only for the most part.
Any special Events or whatever? Nope.

Final Fantasy, hate it or love it, always has something that keeps it in people's minds. There's always a game, XIV or spin-off/gacha, that keeps people in the loop. Social Media is usually active, and merch actually makes it to the West.

It's not the 1990s anymore; the excuse that Square didn't promote DQ as much as FF in the 90s doesn't work when you fumble one release after another and you're too retarded for social media in 2020 onwards. Today's failures are their current choices.
Unless DQ can get its shit together and actually commit to something in the west, it will always end like this: Millions sold in JP, maybe 100k sold in the West, "the west just has no interest in DQ" said in interviews later.
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>>724864002
>60 bucks for two 30 year old games altered to appease "modern" gamers
Sure thing. I'll buy it for 15 bucks a couple of months for now, maybe.
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>>724866354
DQ1 is actually 40 years old, anon.
Also yes, I boughted
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I've been playing the hell out of these games since release. I really like this HD-2D gimmick they're using.
Also DQ1 on Draconian mode is no joke, they seem to have taken the criticisms of DQ3's weak Draconian difficulty to heart.
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>>724864002
DQ never had relevancy outside Japan where it still has it
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>>724864002
>Check out negative reviews
>One guy doesn't know how to detect "hidden" treasures
>Most people bitch about the localization because people can't fucking read anymore and strange words scare them
>Some people crying about the difficulty but too prideful to just play on Dracky Quest where they fucking belong
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>>724866125
Good post anon.
I agree, Squeenix mismanages the DQ IP in the west to an irresponsible degree. if I was a shareholder I'd be pissed considering:
1) DQ VIII and XI were UNPRECEDENTED hits in the west. 8 when turn based jrpgs were oversaturated, and 11 when turn based was considered outdated.
2) Not localizing popular games (DQX) and localizing incredibly niche ones
3) Doing jack shit to advance series after having Hero in fucking Smash ultimate.
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>>724866354
You have to be mentally challenged to believe putting a girl more clothes affects the sales of this giga stale effortless remasters..This piece of crap has Zero respect for your time and looks Bad and nothing interesting happens in the battles or comes from npc chichat
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>>724864158
VI was drop dead gorgeous though, and one of the best looking games on the system. III was also very good looking.
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>>724866514
That's because you're only one nigga by yourself. If you had three other niggas in a row with you like in III, you'd smash DQ1's draconian mode easily.
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>>724864002
>remake dogshit games for which there's no obvious way in which a remake could fix them
>no one plays them
big surprise
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>>724864002
I played the 3 remake and that was enough for me with oldschool DQ, the game was good but also a grindfest and loaded with some bullshit total RNG bullshit towards the end. Also the story was very barebones which is expected, knowing how DQ is I’m sure 1 and 2 are very similar to 3.
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>>724866931
Not true as I'm now playing DQ2 in the same mode and these bosses are pretty rough. I do suspect it will change once I actually get good spells and abilities but right now it feels just right.
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Final Fantasy is also irrelevant these days.
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>>724866125
The issue is that Dragon Quest became big on NINTENDO when they put all of their weight behing it succeeding on PLAYSTATION.

Third party games on Nintendo are supposed to be low effort, lazy releases meant to promote the high profile brand new Playstation games. But because Nintendo spent years promoting the IP, most western DQ fans are hardcore Nintendo fans.
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>>724864002
>FF
>Relevant
FF is so irrelevant that the names "FFXIV" and "FFVII" have more power than "FF"
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>>724866125
>Release a DQ, followed by like 7 years of nothing, release another DQ.
That's what all AAA developers do these days in case you haven't noticed. Production value creep has been so large that it even affects the flagship series. Why do you think there's been no FFXVII announcement?
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>>724867001
Oh. Alright, then.
I'm curious about DQ1's remake. I played the SNES version years ago and the one guy against the world gimmick is cool.
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Are the names and translation normal, or is the Hero named "Erdrick" still?
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>>724866684
Yes, pretty much all the bad reviews are skill issues.
>Reading Shakespearean English is too hard
>Combat is too hard (Meanwhile they don't make use of the multiple utility skills and expect just mashing attacks to be the only strategy)
>Uses an ultrawide meme monitor
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>>724867219
About halfway through a lot of bosses feel like "gotcha" moments where you're expected to die at least once when you run into them. They have gimmicks that require you to use skills you may not normally use.
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>it flopped
Good
I have HD2D3HD2G2HDD fatigue
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>>724867331
>Shakespearean English
More like highschoolers attempts to ape it.
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>>724864002
awful 2DHD artstyle, and STILL doing terrible translations
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>>724867392
Kek same
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>>724867331
>Reading Shakespearean English is too hard
you've never read shakespear in your life, retard.
this shit is downright obnoxious in-game, and not present in the original. Its just some interns fan fiction to "spice up" the dialogue
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>>724867601
Shut the fuck up midwit.
It has flavor and sovl. Sorry they didn't cram it full of your liberal bullshit terms and have the characters talk about gender norms.
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>>724867209
because 16 was a bomba
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Is it tinfoil hatty to suspect that all these remakes are coming to distract from the fact that DQ12 is in development hell?
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>>724867601
>not present in the original.
Based retard
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>>724867812
Yeah a bit.
They first announced the DQ3 remake back in mid 2021.
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>DQ1 has an achievement called A Night to Remember which requires you staying at the Inn with the Princess

Uh what are they implying
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>>724869528
It's not with the princess.
In Tantagel, there's a woman you can talk to near the inn who is attracted to you and wants to follow you around. You can then take her inside the inn, rent a room, and get the achievement for spending the night with her.
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>>724869528
>THE JOKE IS SEX
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>>724869607
You can do it with the Princess as well when you're carrying her around. There's also quite a few cutscenes she gets involved with along the way if you don't just zoom to Tantegel.
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>>724869695
Ah ok, didn't know it popped the achievement with the princess as well.
But yea I know about carrying her around for the rest of the game if you never bring her back to the castle.
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>>724864002
Censorship
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The game is doing really well on Nintendo platforms.

There's just no audience for good games on PC.
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>>724870758
Not even from this game, shitposter-kun
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>mixed
Didnt realize that. Anyway im on draconian and it feels like the game barely works on this difficulty. Im on that boss where the faries get ambushed and its a 6v1, i get raped by 4 skeletons and a armored knight and die instantly. I leveled up a bit and it still happens, genuinely feels like theres no way to win. Also DQ has always had localization issues but this games text feels unfucking readable at times holy fuck.
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>>724866795
>VI was drop dead gorgeous though, and one of the best looking games on the system
With the caveat of sucking shit.
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>check jap reviews
>most negativity is that the game is too hard
>they cant find secret items
jesus christ the settings allow you to customize everything do they genuinely not know
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>>724870920
Cop Out makes you deflect enemy attacks back at them.
Draconian difficulty is pretty brutal. I had to retry the green dragon boss like 10 times before I figured out a strategy and got good RNG.
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>>724870872
Same franchise and DQ 3 remake is also censored
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>>724866125
>It took like 7 versions, but XI did well in the West. Then the Hero got into Smash, and a lot more eyes were on Dragon Quest, and what exactly did they do with all of that momentum? Nothing.
There was a 100 episode Dragon Quest TV anime, two manga released in English, a new mobile game, DQB2 and a port of DQB1 to Switch, and then later in 2022 was DQ Treasures, and then Monsters 3 + Infinity Strash in 2023, and then DQ3 in 2024, now DQ1&2 in 2025, and DQ7 releases in three months.
You can say these all suck, but people didn't give a shit about them before that was even known. Nobody watched the TV anime despite it being one of Toei's best productions in decades and telling a complete story, all while being heavily pushed by Crunchyroll and having the main character appear in Jump Force.
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>>724866745
>2) Not localizing popular games (DQX) and localizing incredibly niche ones
DQX would not be popular outside Japan. Anyone who believes this is delusional beyond all belief.
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>>724867001
Hell, even the random encounters in 2 on Draconian are pretty rough. I know a lot of that is due to me not knowing the "zone" demarcations that mark where stronger enemies are like I do the ones in 1, but there are several areas where I've encountered at least one enemy type or grouping that's almost always been cancerous. The ice boulders out to sea by I think it's Burrowfell immediately come to mind.

For anyone else who is playing, how have you allocated seeds? Midenhall has gotten like 95% of my Strength Seeds, with Cannock getting the others, while I have given pretty much every other seed to Moonbrooke because she's so squishy. I tossed a few pity seeds at Cannock as well to bring his defensive stats up when I saw that his had fallen behind Moonbrooke's. Now that she is out speeding Cannock, I can adjust who I give my Agility Seeds to.
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>>724867157
Your post is fanfiction.
Dragon Quest was never "big" on Nintendo. At best, Dragon Warrior was known as the game that everyone got for free (and then never bought the sequels to it).
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>>724864002
I think the combined nicheness of JRPGs here and it's on the surface pretty basic in presentation didn't help western appeal
You gotta remember the context behind Dragon Quest, it was literally made as an accessible Famicom game meant to simulate turn-based role playing games Yuji Horii was already a fan of which were already derived off of tabletop RPGs
What was the appeal of Dragon Quest in the West for people already familiar with those sorts of games?
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>>724864002
Watching DQ launches is pretty funny given how Japan dominated the playerbase is.
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>>724864002
There's no reason to buy this game until mods fix all its problems. DQ3 2HD3D2HD demake aswell needed a fuckton of mods to correct its problems and censorship and even then the game is just 'okay'
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>>724871932
>There's no reason to buy this game until mods fix all its problems.
This is the reason about two people total have bought a DQ game.
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>>724870872
All the DQ games are censored now.
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Is this just a contrarian /v/ thread, i thought dq3hd was really good aside from bad grinding methods for end game. I dont think dq1 and 2 are worth a replay though, especially 1. The excitement isn’t there
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>>724864002
I still haven't finished my DQ3 playthrough, I got to the funny tower
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>>724873094
Its been that way since 2013
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>>724873430
How so?
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>>724874135
Dragon Quest is a series with a ton of remakes/ports to various systems over the decades.
What anon's referring to is when they started fucking with the artwork on mobile phone ports.
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>>724874135
>>724874298
The censorship has been around for awhile, i remember it happening in thar card gacha game thats now EOS. I think its weird for DQ as its a fanbase with a mostly adult audience.
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>>724864002
censored baby game with invincibility mode
i'm glad it's doing bad. dq deserves it this point kek
also glad japs hate the fanfic rewrite of the story by the ntr obsessed fujoshi they hired for this shitfest kek
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>>724870758
yikes
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>>724873121
The easiest way to "grind" in 3HD-2D's endgame is to walk around in Zoma's Citadel or put the game on Dracky Mode and spam King Hydras in the volcano section of the postgame dungeon.
Metal Slimes arent worth it.
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>>724875356
I see, yeah the metal slime spots in dq3hd are horrific
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>>724864002
Wtf happened?
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>>724876074
Japan is asleep right now.
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>>724876074
the old games were never that big in the west.
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>>724864002
Kneel to the king loser
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>>724864002
Got it
Been playing 1 over the weekend
Pretty good
Glad they still kept carrying the princess back to Tantegel, and its a nice touch during the trip back she reacts to your fights
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>>724876074
Dq3 is much more anticipated than a remake for 1 and 2.
>>724876301
How is this game selling? Pretty sure dq3hd has this game outsold by a fuck ton
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>>724874417
Because it's for the west where games for adults are censored as if they're made for kindergartners because shitlibs are basically adult children.
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>>724864002
Because people loves SPH FEMDOM CFNM scenes with Cloud.
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you don't have to carry the princess back. If you get the sunstone from the castle before rescuing the princess you never have to return to tantagel and can take her to the end of the game.

Every single cutscene after rescuing her has a variation with the princess talking
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>>724864158
V is hideous but it's content rich
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>>724870984
The worst part about 6 is the characters fucking suck. The muscle man is the only redeemable one. You'd think the nerd might be kinda funny but nah he's dull as dishwater.
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>>724879497
Based
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Here's how Dragon Quest could've "won the west".
>don't release any Dragon Quest games on the NES at all
>rework Dragon Quest 1&2 SFC, have 2 be a title that "unlocks" after completing 1 to give the idea of a 'generational story', just title it "Dragon Quest"
>release Dragon Quest 3 SFC as "Dragon Quest 2: The Legacy Begins" or some such nonsense
>Dragon Quest 6 next, just as "Dragon Quest 3: Realms of Revelation"
>release Dragon Quest VII as "Dragon Quest 4: Fragments of the Forgotten Past"
>release Dragon Quest IV (PSX) as "Dragon Quest 5: Chapters of the Chosen"
>then Dragon Quest V (PS2) as "Dragon Quest 6"
>Dragon Quest VIII as "Dragon Quest 7"
>Dragon Quest IX as "Dragon Quest 8"
This would probably have saved the franchise outside of Japan.
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>>724882512
>make the titles even more confusing than Final Fantasy's
>that's how you save it in the west!
I dunno maybe you're on to something.
It worked for Squaresoft.
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>>724882990
>make the titles more confusing
Nobody gave a shit when Final Fantasy or Mario did it, and the idea would be to keep it that way in the west.
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>>724883114
>Mario did it
You mean the GBA games? Those rightfully get mocked all the time.
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>>724883431
By retards on forums.
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>>724883548
>hurr durr it's on the internet so it doesn't count
Gorilla-tier IQ.
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>>724864002
I don't have any interest in DQ as long as they keep that godawful turn-based combat system full of auto battle filler fights. The FF devs had the right idea by making real-time / RTwP combat systems, they make every game feel fresh with new systems to learn. DQ has kept the same system since the 90s, it's outdated and tired.
Here's to hoping DQ12 tries something new for a change.
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>>724883638
It's such an absurdly small minority that it's irrelevant.
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>>724883739
They're also the only people talking about the Mario GBA games in current year, so I don't know what your point is. You're probably a bot.
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>>724883827
I'm talking about success on release you dumb faggot retard.
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>>724883864
People bought them because it's Mario, you triple nigger. Their absolute pants-on-head retarded naming scheme didn't matter, because it's fucking Mario. You dipshit.
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>>724884074
And nobody would know the naming scheme of Dragon Quest in the west except shut in retards who don't matter, which is why it got away with being called Dragon Warrior in the first place and why Final Fantasy was successful despite skipping three whole games.
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>>724884150
>this level of circular logic
I go back to my original bot accusation and am not responding anymore.
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>>724884212
Yeah, run away because you're a fucking retard who said NOTHING OF VALUE
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beep boop
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>>724882098
Just play the PS2 remake.
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>>724864002
Final Fantasy didn't really surge in the west until they released entries that moved away from classic fantasy. It also helped that FF was on the cutting edge of graphics for a while.
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>>724884290
wee woop
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>>724864002
I've been enjoying it a lot
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>>724884862
It's easier, but I'm only playing on medium since there are difficulty settings now, but all the new story stuff's been enjoyable and so are the mechanical changes
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I find dragon quest kind of incredibly boring for how charming and low effort it usually is. But I also can't stop playing it. Are other people enjoying it in a similar fashion?
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>>724864002
>Final Fantasy
I can't remember the last FF game that people cared about, probably goes back to when they were turn-based.
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>>724885184
I like DQ1 for its simplicity
No party to manage
Just you, the lone hero, beating the shit out of everything
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>>724864002
DQ 1&2 HD-2D Remake is the Dark Souls of DQ.
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>>724885518
I get being tired of 2DHD, but i dont see how you hate it that much. The game is really colorful
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>>724885245
They care more about them than DQ
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>>724864002
Never had it in the West.
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>>724864002
I'm honestly excited for the 7 remake. It's gonna be good, right?
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>>724886756
>I'm honestly excited for the 7 remake. It's gonna be good, right?
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>>724886756
i heard if you buy enough copies of it you'll get dq12 by 2039
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>>724864002
I should be the kind of person who likes DQ and I do like some of the really old ones but I heavily dislike the
>KaZAP
>KerBLAMMER
>KEKheal
naming conventions and the stupid accents and the silly bombastic music.
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>>724886996
Where did it all go so wrong for you in life?
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>>724886996
So you hate all the things that are charming about DQ.
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>>724868549
He meant in the japanese version, retard.
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>>724886996
Brown fingers typed this post.
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>>724864002
I gave them a chance with XI and while the game was a lot of fun their kikery with cut content editions killed any interest in giving them money again, hope the entire company goes under.
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>>724871009
There's also two spells that detect items on a map. One tells you how many and one literally makes them sparkle.
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>>724888631
Yeah you can find Nose for Treasure pretty early too. Snoop (the one that makes them sparkle) is later on in Damdara.
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>>724875043
>baby game
You haven't played it.
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>>724886996
Silly spell names are one of the few aspects of the English translations which are not an invention of localizers.
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I hope they do a HD-2D remake of IV. I really enjoy these games and the style looks beautiful in-game.
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What is even the point of the Prince of Cannock when his sister is in the party now and is just a better version of him in every conceivable way?
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Only weebs care about DQ because it was popular in Japan 20 years ago lol
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>>724869607
>>724869695
DQ1 Hero is pretty cannonically a handsome alpha Chad. There's even a bit of flavor text where he can look at himself in a mirror and it talks about how he has ruggedly handsome features and muscles and shit.

He's fuckin' and he's fightin'.
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>>724889256
I played the first game on the NES a ton when I was a little boy long before I was aware of the concept of "Japan."
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>>724871009
>do they genuinely not know
And dq is a game notorious for grinding, theres no excuse not to know. Who are these people reviewing games? Its like they grew out of pods.
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>>724871932
>censorship
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>>724889594
I got some grade-a puff puff from a chick in the bathhouse for only 20 gold coins
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>>724889405
>he can look at himself in a mirror and it talks about how he has ruggedly handsome features and muscles and shit.
sounds like almost every guy online
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>>724886996
The Dragon Warrior nomenclature and whatever the japs use fucking suck. The names of spells and abilities of the official localization is great and adds charm to the series. Something like Blazmore is retarded.
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>>724873121
>Is this just a contrarian /v/ thread
It's typical modern /v/ shit of bitching about every new game or remake no matter what because this is an overwhelmingly negative place where most of the posters have spent 15 years trying to make every new game into a TORtanic because that was the peak of /v/'s relevance to the wider gaming world. The rest are dumbasses obsessed with "censorship" which means throwing tantrums if a female character doesn't have giant tits or isn't showing her ass.

Most of the people doing either of these are also LatAms so they're also really fucking stupid in general and get filtered by anything that isn't brainless caveman gameplay and having to actually read.
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>>724889978
>which means throwing tantrums if a female character doesn't have giant tits or isn't showing her ass
You can just say you're a faggot.
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>>724884862
>>724885023
>Robbin' 'Ood is actually your bro in this one after you beat him up
It was nice and yeah, I think the added story stuff is fine and I don't really hate any of it. I actually liked the faeries a lot and seeing half the village get killed actually did a nice job of lending some gravity towards beating the Dragonlord.
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>>724889839
The heroic part is he doesn't also pull his pants down and then start swinging his hips so his flaccid dick thwaps his thighs. He's got that much restraint
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>>724889839
He's like one of the few heroes in the series who actually gets a real, legitimate Puff-Puff and not a bait and switch.
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What's a good DQ game to start with?
I played all FF games in release order and regretted it, earlier entries are not even that cool
Is 8 a good starting point?
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DRAGON QUEST IS JUST GARBAGE MAN

WHY DO YOU ALL KEEP OVERRATING THIS GARBAGE SO MUCH
DQ11 IS EXTREMELY NORMAL COOKIECUTTER SHIT
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>>724890536
>and not a bait and switch.
They did change that, thoughmsteverially. The puff puff is a fluffy egg rather than the text just straight up talking about how she's schloppin' your knob
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>I played all FF games in release order and regretted it, earlier entries are not even that cool
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>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TOPLAY THIS BORING ASS NES GAME
Uh no
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>people hype up DQ
>try playing 1 as its hailed as a simple classic that still holds up
>it doesnt hold up
>fall for it again and try 3
>it doesnt hold up
>people say 8 is best, I like level 5 let's give it a try
>it doesnt hold up
>11
>finally give up and accept DQ is a waste of time when there's a million RPGs that iterated on its ideas and did it better
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>>724890967
Dragon quest drives me insane.
Its all the same shit over and over, go to town, go to dungeon, clear dungeon, town issue is fixed, go to next town, that last town is now irrelevant, repeat like 8 more times
Also i swear they reuse the same 20 songs every game
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>>724891128
Yep.
Feels good man.
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>>724891128
>i play game
>do thing
>thing happens
>thing is resolved
wow, s tier analysis. You should make a youtube essay
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>>724890967
because dqfags are just as retarded and delusional as pokefags. simply disregard them as worthless subhumans and move on
they will swear until they're blue in the face that their shit ass games are actually the best ever when in reality it's worthless garbage for sub 50 iq subhuman retards with little to no redeeming qualities whatsoever
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>>724891164
Honestly i can handle repetitive story telling just there to give context to grinding but dq music makes me puke.
Its the most generic bullshit possible and i have no proof, i never bothered to look into the tracjs but i swear to god its literally the same 20 songs every game but that would be crazy
To just reuse the samw songs over and over.
It didn't even sound good back then either
I seen people hail the composer as a genius , is that a joke?
Does anyone like this shit, i feel crazy being so alone on openly hating dq music
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>>724891558
https://youtu.be/xfdFU3O3nf8
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>>724891412
>predictable is good
The Japanese are masters of doing the same thing over and over again.
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>>724891558
You are indeed crazy.
Would you like a noose to hang yourself?
Only 5 GP. Very good quality.
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Any other really simple jrpgs out there? There's pokemon, golden sun, mario rpgs, early FF games, what else?
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>>724891723
Masterful Japanese videogame, released over 5000 time to reach perfection, baka gaijin cannot compete
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>>724890967
I'll be real with you anon: 4, 5 and 9 are the only good DQ games
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>>724892357
9 is rancid dog shit, Yamada.
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>>724892273
SaGa.
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>>724892581
Yes, but it's still the best DQ game
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>>724890967
of course it’s a sam hydeberg nigger with shit taste
>>724891521
and of corse this schizotranny is here lmao
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>>724886756
>censored
>horrifically ugly artstyle
No...
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>>724892889
What's been censored?
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>>724864002
Because Enix, before they merged with Square Soft, couldn't use the Dragon Quest name in America thanks to the tabletop game with the same name.
By the time that they were able to get the license and be able to keep the Dragon Quest name, Final Fantasy already dominated the JRPG market so it was difficult for DQ to be as successful
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>>724890645
None of them.
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My personal hobby is going into DQ threads and concern trolling.
It's pretty fun to do since most people in these threads don't play the games.
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>>724864158
There's people that still regard Lufia 1 as a cult classic, they could've made DQV one too. You can't say there was no audience if they were never given the chance to make one.
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>>724893116
>You can't say there was no audience if they were never given the chance to make one.
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>>724890645
Pic related was made back in 2019, but its still an alright reference
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>>724892948
I don't think the name change is the reason they couldn't get a foothold in America.
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>>724893094
How were the ports of anything that wasn't a numbered entry? I remember hearing the Heroes games play like ass.
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>>724871057
The Dragon felt like an amazing fight on Draconion, but the Knight Aberrant in Damdara took me quite a few tries to get a good rhythm going. I had to get better gear and grind like two levels on metal slimes so I could survive a critical hit, since that would just one shot me before even with Buff active.
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>>724893174
I hate images like this because they don't actually help you decide anything. Half the entries in this list are the best entries in the series. Awesome.
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>>724893306
>Dragon Quest Builders
>Monsters: The Dark Princes
>Treasures
Pretty sure they're all 1:1 with mobile versions (don't know if Treasures had one, just guessing on that). Some basic improvements, Builders gains the most from that as it makes getting a lot of materials way easier (can carve out 3x3x3 cubes in one swing with the hammer now, unlike PS4, and your big chest inventory is accessible from anywhere). Dark Prince changes are more minimal if I recall.
>Infinity Strash
>Builders 2
The same as the console versions. If you like Dai's anime or manga, Infinity Strash is honestly a fun fanservice game, but it gets REALLY annoying if you play for more than an hour at a time because the characters constantly shout and scream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eClP2UyBFg
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>>724893174
When this gets updated, we'll need to talk about the "Horii Order"
>Dragon Quest XI S
>Dragon Quest III 2D-HD
>Dragon Quest I&II 2D-HD
>Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined
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>>724893435
>I cannot make decisions
start with the first game retardbro you sound like you're living your entire life in jrpg mode
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>>724864158
>Final Fantasy IV
You mean the game that looked like a half-step between NES and SNES? Sure the characters animated in battle, and enemies were large and detailed, but a lot of folks forget how basic IV was in its original outing due to all the other ports. Even the sprite tweaks in Wonderswan, and the GBA's color enhancements, basically made the sprites actually look SNES quality and finished.
I'd say Dragon Quest missed out on the western anime boom of the mid-to-late 90's plus all the attention on Toriyama's art style that could've seriously distinguished it among the competition.
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>>724893786
Well the intention was to release FF4 on the famimom but they changed to the super one mid-development
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>>724892357
Not falling for it again. I actually did play some 9 back in the day but the story and writing were so boring
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>>724893435
Depends on what you want out of a jrpg.

If you want something light on story where you make your own party of generic characters then play 3 and/or 9.
If you want something heavy on story play 4 then 5 then 6 then 7.
If you're a zoomer who just has to have voice acting and 3D graphics then play 8 and/or 11

1 and 2 are skippable, maybe the new remake fixes that but I haven't played it and never will since Square Enix is so shit now that I don't buy products from them anymore. 10 is a jap only mmo
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>>724889084
Prince doesn't occasionally waste his turns doing shit you didn't command him to do. I'm well past the point where she officially joins and she still likes to do dumb shit every other battle. I just got done with the first fight in Faerie Palace and she decided to try and chuck a boulder instead of attacking and she ended up hitting the Prince and killing him before he could toss out a heal to keep Midenhall from potentially dying that turn.

Yes, she's on the setting where I give commands. I have checked that every time she disobeys on the off chance that I've somehow adjusted a setting in a menu I never touch outside of the moments immediately after a new party member joins.
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>>724890645
Easy answer is DQ11 as it's the most modern, easiest to get into and is also somethig of a celebration of the rest of the series and specifically the Erdrick games. DQ8 is great but play the PS2 version, not the shitty 3DS version.
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>>724894249
>she decided to try and chuck a boulder instead of attacking and she ended up hitting the Prince and killing him
This is based though, who doesn't want to chuck boulders at the Prince and kill him?
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Does Peronel's sprite change if I win her the dancer outfit from the raffle? I keep getting the claws and boomerang, but not the outfit.
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>>724894635
Is the 3DS version not good even with patched music?
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>>724895186
It's a severe graphical downgrade and Red and Morrie are both severely broken and unbalanced characters.
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>>724895186
I wouldn't recommend it for a first playthrough
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>>724864002
It's been 8.5 years since the last mainline DQ, stop with the fucking re-releases and remakes and make something new.

Now we're getting remakes of remakes instead of new games, what a fucking waste of a IP. XII is in eternal development hell, It's just depressing that devs now can't even make a new Dragon Quest game without it being a decade long vaporware project. So instead we just get the same games for the millionth time for full price, hoping to bank on dedicated fans for a quick buck. None of these pull any meaningful amount of new players. That's why the series is dying.
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ban steam charts threads
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>>724895306
>>724895360
k cool, PS2 it is
Thanks anons
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>>724864002
Dragon Quest is boring dogshit, DQXI may look nice but gameplay-wise it literally plays like a NES JRPG.
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>>724895573
I love NES JRPG's
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>>724895561
Only non Bot post itt
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>>724895367
>That's why the series is dying.
i'm pretty sure that's because two thirds of the dream team are literally fucking dead and the last one's gonna have one foot in the grave at the end of all this if he hasn't already
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It's kind of annoying that the characters put their old equipment in their pocket instead of in their backpack.
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>>724864002
>"people" paid 60 bucks for the most bare bones of the bare bones JRPG series of all time

Original DQ was innovative, not fun. Its not like Super Mario Bros. on NES where you can occasionally go back to and still enjoy. DQ 1 and 2 are primitive and bottom of barrel.
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>>724895573
Yes we know you have zero taste. Go play Tales or some dogshit.
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>>724895573
It has a better battle system than 90% of jrpgs because of that.
People are out here thinking shit like Xenogears is a great game when the battles are strategically easier than Dragon Quest and you're just watching martial arts animations.



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