Magena fora.
EIRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!!!
NAO
Garama!
>>724881730It's mejina foora, ESLbro.
>>724881730Two of them
>my gina floralwhat does she mean by this
>>724882158Multiply them by 2
>>724881730So I'm currently in my 2nd game running loops around Pharloom and reexamining everything with new context and what I'm starting to see is that while the Weavers were not good people, the Conductors were far, FAR worse.
>>724881730Tranny thread.
that's fine
*ting ting ting ting*
>>724882432It all comes back to the weavers. They knew how fragile normal bug minds are, yet forced this mantle upon them.
>>724881730EDIRA!
>>724881730kadestre
>>724882518this is a right winger franchise
>>724882026it's vagina dentata, UOLboi
benny frank
am I the only one whos epic for hearing KARAMA instead of GARAMA
>>724882518Hornet canonically hates the gays
Which bug has the best voice ?
Just beat lost lacei am finally free
>>724882845>>724882932This is a tumblr franchise you stupid trannies.
>>724882986Oh~~
>>724882250Kek. It's impossible to imagine Hornet's bugvina, spinaret, or asshole however. Or imagine her in any kind of sexual situation. She's like a little black piece of plastic to me. Perhaps I'm not fucked up enough yet.
>>724883109You must take HRT to see it desu
Miabel~!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtqbHimldIc
>>724882986loyal MERGWIN or perhaps Scrounge
>>724882768Well now hold on, Ballador says they claimed Pharloom "greedily." Meaning they wanted the position. It wasn't forced on them.
>>724882986tie between Shakra, Last Judge, and Nuu
>>724883057Then why does Hornet murder a homo for literally no reason?
You tell em Silksister!!! Filtered CHUD bigot nazis are just haters. SHAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>724882432the conductors are the worst type of people possible: bureaucrats perpetuating a system they were born into for no reason other than it is all they know
>>724883515It wasn't for no reason, she did it for fun
>>724883515the gay bug wanted to die, kingdom destroyed, gay lover murdered, he had nothing
>>724882986Garmond and it's not even close.
>>724883531There's also the absolutely putrid way the Conductors see people. There's a lore tablet that tells the Weavers that the mortal bugs are no longer their food. They need to curb their appetites now that they're Pharloom's rulers. But the Conductors? >Refuses to reviveWhat the fuck is that even supposed to mean? Their surgeons killed this bug in their experiments and because he wouldn't wake from the fucking dead, his corpse has been stripped of all rights?
>>724883772He could have rebuilt Verdania after Hornet saved Pharloom. Sure his lover is dead but he doesn't have to be such a broody faggot about it. It was ages ago and it was his lover's choice anyways.
>>724883496You're biased because you want to fuck that little crafty she-Jew.
>>724884049>What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?Dying is literally a sin. That's just the way it is.Yes, the Conductors were fucked in the head moreso than any other antagonist in the story, including the original Hollow Knight.
>>724884221What was fucked up about The Hollow Knight?
>>724884120>it was his lover's choice anywayskek>do this or we genocide your country>gay bug does it>gets murdered and country gets destroyed anywaysim surprised he was such a faggot instead of going against gms
>>724883407I meant forced the burden of keeping the fake religion going on them
>>724884335PK killing hundreds of his offspring trying to save the world I guess it worked
>>724884435But that's PK, not the Hollow knightYou said that the original Hollow Knight was fucked up. What did he do?
>>724884524im not him but im pretty sure he meant the first game
>>724884524I think he's said the story OF the Hollow Knight is fucked up, not that the Hollow Knight itself is fucked up
>>7248821582 HORNS!LMAO
>you did use the superior way to climb walls, right?
>>724885452>If you dash while clinging to a surface Hornet will run on it>if Hornet runs to the top of the surface, she'll immediately jump off it for more heightIts mindblowing that some people dont know that Hornet can do this
>>724885452I didn't find out about this until I was deep into Act 3.
>>724885452>sitting down right next to himslut
>>724884049The conductors also had no qualms experimenting on their own, see the unravelled
>>724882158i'm seeing double4 hornets!
>the knight is fucking deadhold me bros...
>>724883496>those nippleswhat a slut
>>724885947There's so many fucking bodies in the Whiteward. And these guys didn't even make it to the fucking furnace
>>724886191I still don't know where you find this dialogueHuntress?
>>724886473And there were so many bodies that did make it to the furnace that their souls gathered together and made the Mist and its Wraiths. Plus all the Sinners Road/Bilewater/Putrified Ducts maggots that ended up evolving specifically to eat silk soul.>>724886591Raging Conchfly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5xvB3zGgs>put the knight in silksong>he mogs practically every bossJust goes to show that Hornet is weak compared to the knight.
>>724882432Yes, but the conductors look cool and make the citadel look beautiful so WE forgive them
>>724886591The Conchflies. After killing both of them, Hornet muses about their relationship and how she attempted similar. But because she's a Pale Being, she doesn't have anyone who could ever be a partner to her the way the Conchflies were partners for each other. Even though she has tried.
>>724886725>double jump>shade dash>full charm>void spells>by Moss Mothergeez, I wonder
>>724884221Soul Master is still worse. A Rykard tier megalomaniac mass murderer.
>>724887019Why didn't hornet search for another pale being? Is she retarded?
>>724886835You know they wanted to turn everyone into robots that would serve Pharloom forever right?
>>724886725he's fighting early game bosses with double jump and full upgrades that's not fair, even tho he does attack way faster and has better range and better skills
>>724887073>implying he wouldn't have an easier time with the appropriate itemsJust skip to the act 3 bosses if you care about integrity
>>724887172She gave up after learning about the bead rosaries
>>724881730Esvayi
>>724882026Bsl bug second language, illiterate kun
>>724887172>Why didn't hornet search for another pale being?a higher being should be enough
>>724887172In both games she's the only demigod to have even been implied to exist. It's probable she looked into the possibility and likely that she failed.
>>724885452i discovered it immediately but my mmx/zero hands refused to commit it to memory.gotta triangle jump.
>>724887172>just find another pale being niggai dont think hornet is into the white lady
>>724881730Vagena for u
>>724888246Are you me? Even after learning about using the dash, I can't break my muscle memory to triangle jump
>>724882986They make me laugh every time.
>>724885452I found it annoying that you need to repeatedly tap it, should've been able to hold the button to run up walls Juan-style
holy shit I just beat GMS with the curse after 5 hours of tryingand dopamine got released
>>724881730Rape silksong.
>>724888621
>>724889105So true AGPsis!
>>724888956I'm upset because I need to complete the Parasite ending but the Witch Crest is the only other Crest I like to use. I tried using Beast Crest but I just went back to Hunter's
>>724889105the bad end erotic game thread is that way anon
any theories as to what they might add to the game (aside from something similar to godhome)
>>724889319Lifeblood is being set up to be to be a plague on par with The Infection
>>724889197pure parasite is different because you cant heal and cant use any toolsit kinda sucks but mastering a boss is fun
>>724889581
>>724889319this guymaybe something steel kingdom related
>>724889319The Hollow Knight will show up at the end of this game's version of Godhome, having tracked the path of those who kidnapped his sister.Only to lament that he arrived too late to have been useful.
>>724889643>vulgar>worm enemies become dickssilksong is a porn game
DSP said Silksong is the best metroidvania ever made. Do you agree with him?
>nyoooo the forbidden blood!fake news
If lifeblood is bad why does it make you stronger and sturdier?
Somebody somewhere fapped to this scene.
>>724889790He literally cried about every single thing in the game being too hard.
>>724889962Ghost could handle it because he's made of Void. Hornet can handle it (to a point) because she's a demigod. Anyone else who fucks with the stuff is a retard.
>>724887580>Implying she wouldn't have an easier timeheh
>>724890268So did /v/ for like two weeks after release. I remember all the bitching about the Savage Beastfly.
>>724887580Im sure having 20 masks of health helps
What the fuck was the plan with GMS after the weavers peaced out? Were the conductors just too stupid to cut and run like the weavers did after having the responsibility to keep her contained dumped on them?
>>724890348Yeah, most of /v/ are dsp level.
>>724889581i had a theory that the radiance hijacked properties of life blood to spread the infection
>>724889962
>>724890497They thought they could save it
>>724890497The Conductors' greed blinded them to how absolutely fucked they were. They wanted the power and riches. That's why they ran things.
>>724889319there's a blocked gate in bilewater that should lead to pharloom bay, the barnacles zone they showed in the first trailer
>>724889790no I liked the game, but it's not a good metroidvania at all, the rate at which you get new abilities is abysmal and said abilities are pretty pedestrian in the first place
The Seth score challenge broke me. Fuck this game
>>724883057>silksong proves BPD foids should not, under any circumstances have a lick of power to their name >silksong proves that the union between man and woman grants society stability, and without it, entire lands will wither and die >silksong proves that nobility that comes into power naturally by no means should relinquish that power, or ruin follows Every single problem in Pharloom can be reduced down to the lack of patriarchal authority causing a cascade of problems. GMS being a mother that uses unnatural, arcane magicks to conjure up children results in total debasement of the societal body from the top down. Infertility = bad Homosexuality = degenerate and irresponsible Is it a coincidence that the most healthy and virile cultures in Pharloom have prominent male authority figures? (Fleas, Ants, Bilewater denizens). Silksong is a RW game. A total denunciation of matriarchy as a system.
holiDAY!
>>724890497No. The plan was to play the song literally forever. That's why so many of the parts of the Citadel is based around music. The bugs of the Citadel was supposed to sing for an eternity or until a new Weaver could return to end things once and for all
>>724890751>how silksong breaks people>300k views
>>724889319social links
>>724890832Why is that child smoking?
>>724889790Well yes, he first tried high hall gauntlet after all. Also, the genre is called Hollow-like (inspired by Zelda 2), not Metroidvania
>>724891040she's 18 and 1 month in silk being years
>>724890903Why did conductors stop singing?
>>724891040why is child smoking opium
>>724890586This too. The Conductors didn't realize they were truly fucked until The Haunting began and the song was silenced
>>724890903man im confused, why were the weavers dying?
>>724891254Are there any cute skin mods for Hornet yet?
i really hoped you could get cloaks in different colors for hornet>but what about the eff-shut up ari i want you to recolor every single cloak sprite NOW
>>724886725just goes to show what i said weeks ago, having access to descending dark + shade soul would trivialize so many ss bosses. lost lace is 50% easier just because of descending dark
>>724891404how could there not be yet?
>>724891404This one's pretty ight I guess
>>724889319I want baby hornet mode when she does 1 damage and has trouble binding sometimes.
>>724889319I want a memory fight against Vespa
>>724891116The short answer? The HauntingThe long answer? Greed built Pharloom's coffin and The Haunting buried it. When the Weavers handed over Pharloom's keys to the Conductors, they were given the mandate to continue singing so that Grand Mother Silk would remain asleep. And the bugs of the past recorded the Threefold Melody so that any bug could immediately learn the song and it could continue to be passed down. However the Vaultkeepers, the faction of the Citadel responsible for recording Pharloom's history, decided to hoard their knowledge. A common bug isn't even allowed to look at any of their records. And the Pontiff of the Vaultkeepers decided to hoard his part of the Threefold Melody.So now Grand Mother Silk is beginning to stir and no one knows the Song to put her back to sleep. And since the bugs of Whiteward had been implant GMS's Silk into every bug that could find, and cremating the failures, causing Haunted Silk to travel along the smoke billowing from The Citadel, now most of the bugs of Pharloom are Haunted. And the Song was completely silenced.
>>724889581Setting up The Flood for the Halo tie-in. I see what they're doing.
>>724891358Eva remarks that Weaver reproduction is a difficult, nigh impossible process because of the pain involved. Now Hollownest has Weaver descendants, but those guys can't make the same magic Silk that the Weavers can, so I'm going to take that to mean it's near impossible to make a true Weaver descendant.During the planning stages of the Weaver's rebellion against Grand Mother Silk, we see anxieties about not only their freedom but also their Silk beginning to fade. This note is found in Weavenest Murglin in Bilewater where they were working on the Silkshot. No matter the result of their rebellion, the Weavers knew their time would be limited and so they also drew a map of places outside of Pharloom's sphere of influence. All that to say the disappearance of the Weavers didn't happen all at once. They were fading away and the transfer of Pharloom's power was a gradual one.
>>724888815>I need to repeatedly tap it, should've been able to hold the button to run up walls Juan-stylewho said you couldn't
>>724891429
>>724892048>>724892048Makes very little sense that they'd stop singing a song if that thing kept them alive. For what reason were these things "hoarded"? And in any case, if that charge was ubiquitous and so important, and so very central to the conductors, that melody would've been common knowledge. Everyone would sing in their giant choirs. Everyone would learn. It would be the core tenet of their religion. It would be the main thing they did. So why did it fall out of use? One bug stopped sharing a universal piece of music? Makes no sense.
>>724891404I need clown ones desperately
>>724881730Why is she so sexy?
>>724892571>During the planning stages of the Weaver's rebellion against Grand Mother SilkRebellion implies they overthrew her, while she still retained her position. It was the weavers who fled in self imposed exile, and GMS hunted them down and genocided them.
>>724892048So where do the Godseekers fit into this?
>>724892806Peak sex design
>>724892806vagina shaped head
I love her
>>724892806handlebars
>>724892747Well it wasn't just one bug. It was all of them or rather all of the leadership. Ballador says it. >>724891149 the pretended like they were the real shotcallers of Pharloom but it was always Grand Mother Silk. Their own greed made them forget their purpose. And the Pilgrims don't know any better so they just followed their lead. Needolin dialogue and lore tablets show several Pilgrims asking why things are the way they are. They genuinely don't know and it's because the Conductors and the Vaultkeepers let everything get out of control
the problem I had with HK1 is that I was sent away after 3 days of starting the game (international truck driver), so when I came back home I got super lost and didn't remember shit, so started over and tried to play every day, beat it 112%I started silksong in mid october, had shit to do for 3 weeks and now I'm already forgotten what I was doing so I'm considering starting overLast thing I did was, I went to the citadel after spending 2h in the mist, defeated phantom etc, but I don't think I got there the "right" way since there's an icon on the other side of the mapwhat do you think, start over or maybe go back to the old areas and explore them again
>>724892950Snails are innately untrustworthy deceitful creatures.
>>724892838I mean she was put to sleep for who knows how long. And there was at least a period of time where the Weavers, and later the Conductors, held Pharloom's reigns. And we know from Hornet, the Mask Maker, and Mister Mushroom that Pale Beings do not share power or tolerate dissent. Except for the Pale King but he's an anomaly
>>724893128>I went to the citadel after spending 2h in the mist, defeated phantom etc, but I don't think I got there the "right" way since there's an icon on the other side of the mapNah you're fine. I did that too. You can head to the icon from the other side for a shorter runback. citadel's super confusing if you're going through it the first time.
>>724893024Unironically pretty terrible characterization on part of the conductors et al, if true. Also one that has barely meat to its bones, ie they didn't set it up well. Feels like TC worked backwards from "GMS being trapped but is coming free" like a repeat of Radiance. "Ok but how?" "Idk like conductors are fuckinn retards or something lmao stop thinking so hard "That's Silksong writing at its worst.
>>724892859Dunno. I can't even say the Godseekers even knew about Pharloom.
>>724893135Get off of /v/ Groal>>724893128You have a quest marker to point the way and tell you your goal.
>>724893169GMS is her own person. She chose vengeance over building something positive. Over very flimsy reasons.She still had agency, she still made several new daughters and ordered the Conductors to hunt weavers. Its obvious she still had considerable power, even while "asleep".
>>724892806a perfect mix of sticc and form
>>724893128Just play while driving bro
>>724893342Well maybe those spiders should have kept their hubris under control instead of crying out for a smiting
>>724893505I agree. First order of business should've been to bind GMS into dust. Utterly ludicrous they didn't attempt this, and just proves the whole "deep" "sleep" thing is bogus.
>>724893342This is something that's been a thorn in my head, how powerful is Grand Mother Silk really? Even asleep she can still enthrall damn near every bug in Pharloom. The Void couldn't kill her immediately and her holding out against The Void damn near shattered all of Pharloom. And they would rarely even speak of the Snare Setter because Grand Mother Silk is always watching and she might find out even from atop Pharloom. It seems like Grand Mother Silk has way more power than we ever get to see because we kill her as soon as she finally wakes up
>>724893598>lets take the sentient silk into ourselveskek
>>724893135it's a slug
>>724893698It's all indirect power but most of it only makes sense if GMS isn't just controlling the silk but is the silk and her body is just a convenience for her.
>>724893702Binding GMS works. Especially if it's a group effort, those primogenitor Weavers would manage it. That they didn't, proves GMS is never truly asleep. She's just not. >>724893698The lore breaks because she does all these things while supposedly weakened or in a slumber. She "does it in her sleep" meaning what? She thought all these things about daughters and made them in her image in her dreams, reacting to being betrayed while she slept. Its a dumb, misused allegory for a general stupor of the mind. Like she isn't herself. TC simply aren't being specific enough while writing.
>>724893771It's a snail pretending to be a slug
>>724893795Something like this never gets set up by the story. Hornet can incorporate a cut off arm no problem. There's no indication she is being influenced or made to do something she wouldn't. That GMS *is the silk* is not supported by what we see. Weavers could've bound and destroyed GMS, and kept their power and lives, but didn't.
Someone explain this game's lore to me.GMS uplifts the weaversThe weavers turn against GMS and use the citadel to control herThe conductors try to use silk to gain immortality, which causes the haunting and fucks up the citadelAlright, so:1. Why is the citadel imprisoning First Sinner? GMS would do that, but I thought the whole citadel religion was supposed to be invented by the weavers to control her. 2. Who's to blame for ruining the rest of Pharloom. Is that all on the conductors or was it GMS?3. How the hell does Lace fit into all of this. Has she been around since the beginning? What was she doing the whole time the conductors were in control imprisoning her mom, like whose side was she on?4. What's the actual state of things at the start of the game. GMS is awake (?) and controlling basically everything, right? Why is the citadel still like this fallen zombie kingdom instead of GMS just ruling openly?
>>724893914>Binding GMS works.Zero evidence of this. When Whornet binds her GMS snatches Whorenet's body.
>>724894058That's not what happens in that ending
>>724894120Yes it is. Whornet's body becomes the same material as GM's spool.
>>724893291>>724893203well I explore the same map over and over since I'm a completionist and I try to make sure I don't miss shit. In HK1 I beat it with like over 90% completion rate and only started looking shit up after I already beat radiance and some dream bosses>>724893386well for international trips you have 2 drivers but the way it works is that both of you are supposed to be working at the same time, you can't just go to sleep while your partner drives, you can't play games,etc. If they say you gotta go from germany to spain and back in 3 days, you do it, you're sleep deprived, you're starving because you can't stop to eat since time is tight, etc. Last thing you want to do when you're feeling like shit is play games. It's illegal to drive for a long time but the company gives you shit to cheat the system, it's a shit job but the money is really good
>>724894195Hornet can bind the arm of GMS without ill effect. >>724894032GMS is still in control by the time of the conductors. They thought they'd be in charge, but she's the one calling the shots. She's enacted a pogrom against Weavers, costing numerous lives and necessitating long treks to find and bring back Weavers to torture and kill (or break into servitude). The "greedy" conductors would never do expensive and wasteful operations like this unless forced. Ergo, GMS is still in control, even while "asleep" (a bullshit concept never proven, never seen, only talked about by people that have secondary information at best). GMS never slept. Is never sleeping.
>>724882986
>>724894449Killing Weavers is an ontological good though
>>724882986map lady and it's not even a competition
>>724894032>1.First Sinner Needolin dialogue explains>I did not wane!>I did not forget!>Sustained by fury!>Cursed by Silk!>Cursed with Silk!>Cursed to know...>The sin... the truth...The First Sinner was the first to recognize what they really were. They weren't children of a goddess. They were uplifted Pharlids. But how do you explain to an entire society that their god is a liar? So she was locked away in The Slab, requiring the Key of the Apostate to enter. An Apostate being someone who abandoned their religion. >2.The Conductors. Pharloom was never good but the Conductors made things way worse>3.No one can say when Lace and Phantom were made. Only that GMS made them. Grand Mother Silk says>...Better a child spun mad... than none...>...Better a child spun frail... than none...>...Better a child spun pure... than them...>...One to wish our waking...>...From our Silk... A child born loyal...The fact GMS says the purpose of Lace is to "wish our waking" tells us she was made AFTER she was put to sleep and her purpose was to wake her up. And the fact GMS mentions purity and loyalty means Lace was intended to be a loyal servant rather than the traitorous Weavers>4.GMS is not awake. Her first dialogue challenging Hornet says>...Child... Weaver...>...Child... Spider...>...Arrived... At last...>...Our Silk...>...Our strength...>...Our nature...>...We feel it...>...Rise... Rise...>...Come, child... Witness our waking...GMS is still asleep. But she can speak through her Silk.
>>724892695what even was the point of adding this shit to the game
>>724894449>GMS never slept. Is never sleeping.This directly contradicts dialogue from the game though
>>724894449Hornet straight up tells you GMS is asleep
>>724894860Lower hit box and increased movement speed
>Someone disassembled Second Sentinel's heart to pieces and locked them away across the CitadelWas it simply the haunted or there was a spy among them? I sense a conspiracy.
>>724894449You're putting the cart ahead of the horse. GMS is waking up because the Conductors grew decadent and complacent. They turned from dutiful worship to self-aggrandizement, gilding the Citadel and commanding the construction of a glorified music box to take the place of the choir whose soul essence was integral to keeping GMS subdued.This isn't conjecture, it's explicitly presented with the loss of the threefold melody - the last Architect has completely forgotten her part, while the Vaultkeepers and Conductors have so jealously guarded theirs that they're never sung.So no one is singing, the Citadel has passed from decadence into decline, and GMS begins to stir. Her silk - which suffuses the Citadel to such an extent that it can be plucked out of the air in Greymoor - gives her an in to start manipulating the Choir and turn them to her bidding. The Conductors begin to issue choral commandments to gather the fled Weavers or their descendants while GMS is still asleep
>>724894964>sleeping>can possess corpses and people>ordered hornet's capture
>>724894864We never see that sleep. Try to read the post again. Its an attempt at making the same narrative of impending doom as HK1 but falls short as the actual method of "trapping" the good is never shown. Its not visually striking the way the image of the chained, bound vessel in the egg is. Its actually not visual at all. In a game where visuals make up 80% of all artistic output. Actually refute the argument and you'll get somewhere. >>724894964I'm being told something that is obviously not true. Why should I listen to this? It's simply not true that she is sleeping. At no point in the game do we see her sleep. She does things constantly. She has done things, active things, for hundreds or thousands of years. The pogroms against the weavers, the creation of new daughters. The rejection of one daughter, sentenced to certain death. The slow, methodical destruction wrought on the citadel. All these things, she did while "asleep"? It just renders the word meaningless. And this has been going on for hundreds of years. The citadel is long dead when we gain access to it. No one has been "singing" for a very long time.
>>724894449This seems kind of 200IQ. Doesn't explain why the whole choir thing is still going on at all, or why haunted bugs would attack pilgrims who are loyal to the citadel. If it's all GMS everyone should be on the same side>>724894797This helps a bit, thanks
>>724888621If you told me he was voiced by Zach Hadel I’d believe you
>>724895187The act of singing that one song was akin to a religious duty. So why did the people stop being pious, if continuing meant continued power, and stopping meant certain death. If anything, any crisis would cause the people to sing HARDER, not less. I'll say it again, putting the entire ruin of their culture on a few people "lacking moral fibre" is asinine. Oh yeah they were greedy, that's why Rome fell. Oh yeah they were being pig headed and too big for their britches, that's why the Qing dynasty fell. It's too simple. Naive. It makes too many excuses. It hurries me along.
>>724895335>>724895328Yes GMS is a godly bug. This is also something the game straight out tells you. The Radiance can infect the dreams of both living and dead from the 5th dimension and the Pale King can shape the Void into living beings bug your upset that GMS can possess others through her Silk? Are you being contrarian on purpose or is your argument "I don't like it so it's bad?" Because the game itself says you're wrong
>>724895457GMS is a psychopath. She doesn't care about regular bugs in the slightest. The choir thing is long dead. We only see a remnant of it.
>>724895627Sleep is never visually shown to matter, while in Hollow Knight, the act of "breaking out of bondage" is the first thing ever shown. TC understood visual storytelling in 1, lost it in 2. GMS sleep is poorly explained at best, and nonsensical at worst.
>>724895568Gee, I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the environmental storytelling which explicitly shows that the Citadel, under the rule of the Conductors, has grown decadent and complacent, and tore down the symbols of selfless duty and personal sacrifice in order to live a life of ease off the labor of an ignorantly devout underclass.Or did your media literacy class not cover that?
>have power to eat gods power>lose mind in progressWait so from which side of hornets lineage does the 'binding people's crest' come from, wyrm or weaver side? Combination of both? Normal weavers can't bind like this, right?
>>724895816Oh it's you. The guy who can't comprehend the Haunting unless you see it at least once each zone. Can you put on a name so I can not listen to you cry about things the game blatantly told you? Or at least fuck off to another thread?
>>724895817Yes, but why did they become "greedy" and complacent. There's always a reason for these things. There's no answer to find in the texts, because TC simply do not care about Conductors or why they did what they did. Even though they are, unironically, the apparent key to Pharloom's downfall. Since they are the reason the world went to shit, their motivations and what led them wrong must be contained within the story, or else it just looks like forced writing. "We need this outcome, so this is what happens". It breaks immersion.They are not even deigned a representative with a face. TC do not care.
>>724895968Make a better argument. Actually respond to the posts. Otherwise you're firmly in midwit tier
>>724895867Hornet is a Pale Being through her father. So technically speaking, Hornet is on the same power level as Grand Mother Silk. And Mister Mushroom implies that Hornet isn't done growing and that she'll gain the ability to see the future just as her father does. So yeah binding Grand Mother Silk is something only she can do.
>>724895867All of the imagery associated with binding is clearly employing Hornet's silk, and the memories of the Weavers whose power you bind command you to bind their power to you. It's definitely from the Weaver side.Honestly, I don't even think there's that much daylight between Hornet's Weaver and Wyrm heritage. The Weavers were uplifted pharlids, yes, but they were given the power to produce silk by a pale being and the innate desire for domination or destruction that all pale beings seem to share clearly exacerbated the worst aspects of the pharlids' nature.I think Hornet's Wyrn heritage is probably more chiefly responsible for her ability to resist the compulsion of GMS' silk or the Lifeblood when she ODs on plasmium. There are undoubtedly other perks, but this is where it's most obvious.
>>724896050>why did they become "greedy" and complacentJumping Jesus fuck WHAT? Have you ever met another person? Why would anyone who gained power want more power?
>>724896147You don't listen to arguments. You don't listen to text. You don't listen to SCREENSHOTS. Team Cherry could walk up to you and hand you the original manuscripts of the game and you'd be like>nuh uh you're wrongYou're a troll at best, a mitwit at worst. You don't actually give a fuck about the answers to any of your questions so just fuck off already
>>724896207You reminded me we never see anything outright allude to her wyrm side. Just her weaver and pale being sides. Wonder if we'll ever get anything on that in the future. The bench foresight theory is a cool theory though
>>724896532Her wyrm side is her pale being side, anon.
>>724896532Mister Mushroom directly calls out Hornet's Wyrm side here >>724896148
>>724895627The difference between radiance and GMS is that radiance is very much awake while being trapped in the hollow knight.
You will be voting for her in queen of /v/, right anons?
>>724896665The Radiance and GMS don't work the same way. The point is both bugs are cited as godly beings who's powers act outside the normal rules of nature.
>>724896050This is the same goalpost moving you engaged in when presented with specific examples of the dockworkers and Skarr hunters being bound by the Haunting. You've been given a specific example of precisely the kind of explanation you claim isn't present in the text of the material, and now it's not good enough because it doesn't have a corresponding lore entry that says, "on the thirty-third day of Lepidober, Conductor Jingaling realized that he could just extract wealth from the faithful instead of actually doing his job."The Citadel is full of examples of its decline into decadence with the most overt being the removal of Pious Isamor from the Grand Gate (the plinth he once stood on is still present there), the gluttony of the Great Gourmand, the pittance paid to Loam for keeping the Underworks going on his treadmill or the rosary-operated confessional.That you insist on coming into these threads for the sole purpose of demonstrating your ignorance is legitimately mindblowing, and I can only imagine that you have some sort of humiliation kink. You one hundred percent reads as someone who watched someone else play the game on YouTube and didn't pick up on any of the background details, environmental storytelling or lore collectibles which explain every single one of your uninformed arguments.Also, nobody's impressed that you samefag as your own defense force whenever someone calls you out.
>>724896207Sure, but I don't think other weavers can bind like horney does. Eva said she's never seen anything like Hornet. I was just wondering if the whole sucking up people essence or whatever was because of pale king's genetics. Since the hollow knights used 'Focus' to suck up the radiance
>>724895131The vaultkeepers, hornet's comments in the bestiary implied that they were afraid of losing their position, probably because the Conductors and Architects wanted to replace everyone with robots, so they started hoarding and hiding away important artifacts.
>>724896632No, just like roots and Hornet in the end (Weaver queen) there seems to be only few of a species that are pale, like albinos.
any tips for beating this
>>724897029Who's Hornet's father, anon?What is Hornet's father?
>>724896912Eva's experience is also somewhat limited by the fact that she's been buried in an iron coffin her entire life. She might have some limited clairvoyance to perceive beyond Weavenest Atla, but her only experience of Weavers would be the OGs that fled.It's also likely that Hornet is unusual in that not many other Weavers scored with a pale being, so any of the other halflings out there are more likely to be half-Weaver, half mortal bug, but they'd probably also be novel to someone who's spent her whole life confined to a Weavenest.
>>724881730why does everyone pretend she says "SHAW" but she never says that once in the whole game. am i being collectively gaslit?
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>>724897161The pale king. Who is referred to as 'the white wyrm' in a choral commandment. If every wyrm was a pale being, that wouldn't narrow things down, would it?
>>724896848>and now it's not good enough because it doesn't have a corresponding lore entry that says, "on the thirty-third day of Lepidober, Conductor Jingaling realized that he could just extract wealth from the faithful instead of actually doing his job."You can't even say this part here because I GAVE HIM TWO DIFFERENT LORE ENTRIES THAT DISCUSS THE HAUNTING. The problem I think is that he's set up the story in his head, the in game text or events didn't match what he imagined, and rather than amend the narrative he imagined he just says>Nah Team Cherry just weren't as based as they were for HK1And then when he posts his bullshit here and someone says>well actually this happened and here's the line of dialogue explicitly stating itHe decides to double and triple down on his bullshit because god forbid his headcanon not be more important than the actual text.
>>724892863anon this is a blue board, pls censor
>>724890174yes me
>>724896848>(the plinth he once stood on is still present there)Great now I gotta go boot up the game again, thanks anon
>>724896848Just saying a party "got greedy" is not enough to be a good story. Conductors being forsaken by the story itself,And being shown to love through attention by TC, actively undermines the narrative and morality of the story. What is it really? Covet money? Power? We only ever see the end result of a terrible decline, but we never get to understand how they came to the conclusion that greed should overcome piety. >>724896213"Rome fell because they had relied on expansion to fuel a lavish lifestyle and further expansion through looting and slavery. Once there were no more easy lands to occupy and loot, they were left with a long, porous border with enemies on all sides; while the economy slowly ground to a halt." See how easy that was? That took two sentences and clearly showcases HOW "greed" and "complacency" causes terrible disaster. Conductors, while being responsible for the mishandling of the Citadel song-project and thus the destruction of Pharloom, receive no such attention from the story. We're simply told, or even not told, just implied through visuals, that they are corrupt and somehow lost their ways. Its that "somehow" that I'd like to know more about. Because as it stands, there's not much disproving my theory of "GMS was always the chief authority of the citadel, never slept". Conductors are non-characters with zero agency within the story.
>>724897282Irrelevant. The Pale King is both a wyrm and a pale bring. Herrah was neither a wyrm nor a pale being. Therefore the pale being side and wyrm side of Hornet's heritage are one and the same.
>>724881730Is Hornet italian because that sounds like italian gibberish
Coincidence? I think... Not.
>>724896848>the plinth he once stood on is still present thereWell what do you know, it is there. Initially I thought that plinth on the right was for the Vaultkeeper but no, his statue is behind the plinth. Good eye anon
>>724897293I talked to that statue. The statue being there and claiming they were once pious is not the issue. Its that there's no setup or explanation for the "fall" of the citadel. TC were either being cowardly here, or they didn't care.The last conductor is a cardboard cutout that doesn't shed much light on the issue. He doesn't defend or denounce the conductors, simply posits that the mantle of power was a yoke. Wow. I'd like something more, since the failure of the conductor's leadership is the root to all this.
>>724897519I guess it's doomed to remain a mystery, then. Sucks that you're going to die unfulfilled by this dissatisfying resolution. My heart bleeds for you. Truly.
>>724897519>there's not much disproving my theory of "GMS was always the chief authority of the citadel, never slept".Besides the game saying multiple times that GMS was put to sleep, that she is asleep and trying to awaken, that the entire mechanism of the Citadel was designed to keep her asleep, and GMS herself referring to "One to wish our waking" in Lace's silk heart memory which wouldn't make sense if she wasn't asleep and didn't need to be woken.As opposed to the evidence supporting your theory, which is completely nonexistent anywhere in the game.
>>724897596Is it though? Mask maker says Hornet's mask is an amalgamation. And he mentions three things. Monarch = pale being, Hunter = weaver, so it could be possible that Watcher = wyrm.
>>724897000>probably because the Conductors and Architects wanted to replace everyone with robots, so they started hoarding and hiding away important artifactsWhy would they want to destroy their city guardian? TC left out the Third for a reason too. Jumping the gun and blame GMS or Conductors for everything just doesn't sit well with me, there isn't enough weight and motive to justify the actions. It seems like a perfect character reveal for the DLC.
>>724897902Okay anon cool, so where's this mysterious third parent who gave Hornet her pale being side that wasn't her dad? Because we know White Lady isn't her actual mom.
>>724897784What's the point of the sleep if she can still do things, still order people around and do what she desires (have children)? What's the actual loss of power for GMS in this situation? What is it she cannot do while asleep? >>724897769You're becoming emotionally disturbed by simple queries and inventing bizarre fantasies about me having a humiliation fetish, that I have samefagged ever, and that I am somehow losing these debates, while you fail to rebuke a single issue. Well, one of you (not sure which) got me with the Weaver spires being monumental in nature thing. Either case, you need to take this discussion more seriously if you want to defend Silksong in earnest. These cheap shots won't work.
>>724898047It's just magic genetics, anons. All I'm saying is not all wyrms are pale beings. PK just happens to be a pale wyrm, like how Hornet is a pale wyrm-weaver hybrid
TC doesn't want to lean into Pale King genetics too much because Silksong by design is a matriarchal work (with disastrous consequences)
>>724881730why didn't Team Cherry include any of hornet's iconic lines like SHAW or ADIDOS
>>724898369Well in return we got MENE FREN and VREN
>>724898150You are very smart.
>>724882986Styx
If the first game was about fatherhood, and the second about motherhood... What will the third game be about?
>>724898509Bottom surgery.
>>724882986KARA VOS
>>724898150>What do you remember of your time caught upon the thread, Pavo?>Oh, ahh. It is difficult... Upsetting even to think. Strange, sad memories, not my own, and my own thoughts smothered amidst the tangle.She is incapable of directly controlling or commanding anyone with lucid thought. The Haunting blocks out a person's own conscious thoughts, but what replaces them is vague jumbled concepts. As a result, it is extremely easy for Haunted bugs to act in a way contrary to what GMS would have wanted had she been fully awake.
>>724898432You've given up. A sad thing. I'd like you to work harder, be a better poster for the good of the boards.
>>724882986Ulanuu!<3
>>724898615I stand in the presence of an unassailable intellect, what can I do but yield?
>>724898208I know not all wyrms are pale beings, we already know that from HK, but Hornet's father is both and her mother is neither, therefore for Hornet the two are one in the same since they come from the same source.
>>724885452It's slower than just jumping
>....ahh~
>>724896147>>724895816>>724895328>>724895335>>724894449You probably have autism, and trust me, you did not understand the lore of this game and should just read and learn from others.
>>724898694Makes it ideal for the surface climb, though. The little up-and-over hop gives you perfect positioning to clawline between the spiked walls.
>>724898606Feels like speculation, I don't think there's evidence of haunted bugs working against GMS' will. There's also no end state shown for what happens when she's "fully awake", since that whole concept is super muddy and unclear anyway. Radiance, at least, had an end goal with her "haunting" and a clear progression, steadily manifesting her will on the land, shaping it in her image. Twisting bodies and so on. Both revenge and a return of a new power. GMS has no such progression of "waking" in game. We just have to take lore blurb's words for it, that this is happening.
>>724898778It's much safer to simply make an act of reading and analysing whatever is in front of you, than take the word of secondary sources. Most of you hallucinate the majority of the plot, or otherwise slavishly follow wiki pages or pseudo wiki pages like the in game monster manual, even if it is disproven by actual visuals and actual plot.
>>724898680I don't get it anon what did you think I was arguing against then? Of course Hornet got both the pale being and wyrm blood from PK. But they are seperate things, since not all pale beings have foresight. That's strictly a wyrm thing
>PILGRIM! CAST ASIDE THOSE MANY SINFUL HOPES FOR REST AND REWARD... REMAIN PURE! WITHIN OUR MIDST, ASK FOR NOTHING!>SEE OUR CITADEL'S SIMPLE STONE, BARE AND UNADORNED. SEE HOW PLAIN OUR GARB, HOW SPARSE OUR MEAL. KNOW THAT EXCESS IS SIN!>STAY VIGILANT ALWAYS, FOR THOSE WRETCHED PILGRIMS WHO DARE RELENT TO THEIR BASE DESIRES, LEFT UNPUNISHED WITHIN OUR PURE CHORUS! THEIR SEDUCTIVE SIN SPREAD LIKE FLAME!Thank you, Pious Isamor, for your words of warning. Surely, no one will ever give in to their sinful urges and pervert the very nature of... oh, shit, it's almost as if it's warning against exactly what happened to the Citadel.
You have a life size Hornet figure, right anon?
>>724899165>even if it is disproven by actual visuals and actual plot.Like the Weaver Spires. And the Cogwork Core. And Pious Isamor.
>>724899448Brasil número um!
>>724899028>Radiance, at least, had an end goal with her "haunting"Not really. A bunch of shit is mutating and dying. But we're told through the lore that it's because she's mad about being forgotten? But mutating and killing everything just means being permanently forgotten after everything dies. At least with GMS the Haunted bugs are staying alive (until Hornet kills them, or they miss a body slam and fall into spikes) which means they'll still be around to do her bidding when she wakes up.
>>724899357So they were monks?
I'm pretty sure Widow is the one actually controlling things. There's a Needolin room in the cradle where she's clearly worshipping GMS, and we see that she can control GMS' silk in Bellhart. She ordered the capture of the weaverkin because she herself can't make more silk to help GMS wake faster, and because they were the descendants of the traitors.
>>724899519You still refuse to see the issue about Conductors being a void of characterization. We're getting somewhere with the cogwork core at least, but the industrialization drive of the citadel is not really set up in ideological terms either. What conditions sparked the expansion of the zone, and when did these changes happen? As they show us, at least at some point Pilgrims were welcomed up to the cradle to sing, by a trio (united) of representatives of the Citadel. Hence at some points they were still doing good work, even while Architects were in charge of their parts.
>>724899790When was it said that excess silk helps GMS wake faster? And why would Conductors listen to Widow?
>>724899647Radiance wants to kill Hallownest utterly, yes. That's her will. She also has a desire to be worshipped, which manifests in some bugs. But more than anything, what seeps out of the Vessel and the Egg is simply sheer malice and destructive force of will. It takes will like that to create results like what we see, and to bring down a glorious Kingdom like Hallownest.
>>724900073Silk is a miracle substance that can do anything. All of the conductors are dead except for one terminally ill faggot who can't even get out of bed.
>>724899972>What conditions sparked the expansion of the zone, and when did these changes happen?The reason why these conditions aren't shown is because the details are fundamentally irrelevant to the story of the game. Like the other guy said earlier, you don't need a lore tablet saying "at this time this conductor decided to be a greedy shitbag." With the events of the backstory happening over presumably decades, if not centuries, it makes more sense for it to be a slow gradual decline. One Conductor decides it's okay to skimp on one aspect of the choir while having a minor indulgence. Then a Vaultkeeper decides to hoard away some knowledge for private records thinking they're not that important. Then some details about the chorus are overlooked because they're not believed to be crucial and essential. Then another and another and another, slowly over time, until the end result is a decadent Citadel bickering with each other until the Haunting happens.You mentioned the decline of Rome, but that happened over centuries, it didn't happen overnight nor was there one singular cause that you can attribute it to. It was just one generation of elites thinking they could get away with indulging themselves, and the next indulging even more, until in the end the Empire had fallen and Rome was a backwater barbarian-ruled shithole.
is silksong getting dlc like first hk?
Okay but WHY do higher beings want to be worshipped? Why do they create or uplift creatures? I don't think they need to, because WL still lives. Why do pale beings have a dominance instinct? I think there needs to be a reason at least
>what are you in for? >I coughed 3 times in 5 minutes
>>724900846>penance by swallowingwhat on earth did they mean by this
>>724900846>cough once>get vored
>>724900846v-v-vore??
>>724900846At least I’m safe from that yellow idiot.
Gooning to pyrmaid head is on the same level as flicking the bean to ted bundy
>>724882986twelfth architect's voice makes my dick hard so her
What was the sin that the flies committed to be eternally committed to the Slab?
>>724901645Being ugly smelly bastards
>Hegale!>Garama!>Eira.>That's fine.>Shaw!>Mio fene.One of these lines is not like the others.
>>724901645No one knows. That's not conjecture, no one knows what they did. But they sure know they're guilty
>>724900623>Silksong is thus a game that claims one small misstep, from a single person has the power to end a culture. That one should be eternally mindful of even a slight lapse in judge or you'd risk setting your society to a path of damnation? Its a puritan game, in other words. Your explanation also still doesn't care about why Conductor's couldn't revitalize their own culture, why they were powerless to resist greater decline as it happened around them. I think TC genuinely didn't care about Conductors. They were ancillary to the plot, but retained a central part of the story. Them being written off as a sort of fallen, lowly bug that aspires to greatness with disastrous consequences feels extremely shitty and elitist, though.In a way nothing in HK1 ever did, even though it had ultra stratified hierarchies bugs and God bugs, it is in Pharloom where regular bugs attempting to rule is treated with abject contempt by the writer.
>>724901645Complete guess because The Slab is where Atla is entombed: the Flies were Atla's army she raised against Silk
>>724901163ZANZIBAAAAART
>>724901968I don't want to outright say you're correct. But I do think it's interesting that Old Penitent says that "old caste" committed a sin against the Citadel. Not an individual bug. The entire caste. So maybe you're onto something
>>724897712She's going to become the Ichigo of the series with all these heritages.
>>724901830What do these clauses mean?
>>724893982Looks more like the opposite
>>724899972You're being pedantic. What you call hallucination is all very obvious - even superficial - worldbuilding. We know that the Citadel, at its inception, was a place of austerity. We know that the Weavers established it for the explicit purpose of removing themselves from the task of keeping Grand Mother Silk asleep.We know that the Weavers fled, leaving the Citadel in the sole stewardship of the Conductors, who then took that austere monastery and turned it into a gilded temple to conspicuous consumption.We know these things because they are all directly addressed within the text of the game, by multiple characters including Hornet, herself, and you've been provided with numerous explicit citations from which you've fled into the umbras and penumbras of "characterization."The characterization is that the Conductors failed in their stewardship of the Citadel after being entrusted with the sole task of keeping an eldritch entity asleep and inert by the Weavers that put her there. The realization of the enormity of this drove the last Vaultkeeper pontiff to madness and death.Your entire line of argumentation is predicated on a willful failure to understand the material as it's presented. You ignore direct evidence that contradicts your position and flee to irrelevant minutiae, then treat everyone else's exasperation at you as proof of your victory.It doesn't matter whether or not you find the Conductors' role in Pharloom's downfall compelling, the fact is that we're presented with a narrative of a multi-generational decline as the Citadel fell to avarice and indolence. as an ever shrinking number of pilgrims were forced to work beyond death through the misuse of silk before finally being replaced by a simulacrum of a song because the act of worship didn't matter to the Conductors anymore, the appearance of it did. This is all presented in the game, not as some unhinged inference in someone's fanfic-y head canon, but directly within the work itself.
>>724902279Placements in an orchestra ?
>>724902446This would make sense. The entire point of the pilgrimage is to join the choir and lull Silk forever.If you were performing inadequately, it wouldn't be unreasonable for that to be sinful
>>724902279I'm not 100% certain but given that First Sinner's prison calls her "First of the First" I think that's their caste. With the First Children or the Weavers being the First Caste only below the Grand Mother. Meanwhile the 12th caste is probably a less valuable caste of bugs
>>724882986>TROOOBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>724902446You might be correct too considering this guy got a life sentence for the sin of dissonance>dis·so·nance>/ˈdisənən(t)s/>nounMusic>lack of harmony among musical notes.What the fuck? You can get a life sentence for singing off key?!?
>>724885773huh? there's one dream sequel where you HAVE to do that, isn't there?
>>724902847When the imprisonment of a pale being depends on singing her lullabies forever, yeah, singing off key is gonna get you a life sentence.
>>724902128I'm still mad at the ending he got
>>724902982He deserved better. He was a knight and a hero true, truly the best of mortal bugs.
Everyone who has coomed to the Grand Mother needs to report to The Slab immediately
>>724882024
>>724903272
>Atla is almost certainly the First Sinner. The Atla Effigy is within moonwalking Distance of the First Sinner and Atla seems to have been the leader of the Rebellion judging from the content of her Weavenest. Furthermore her callousness in referring to Eva matches First Sinner's rhetoric of calling Hornet a half breed. She's a bit of an elitist.>Camora is the Weaver of Healing, entombed in Mosshome judging from the specific rhetoric of healing>Cindril is the Weaver of the Path, likely entombed in Deep Docks to show the path to her Weavenest used to show other Weavers the path to other kingdoms. Also the connection between the Swift Step and the Anklets>Karn is entombed in Weavenest Karn, located in Wormways since it's out of the Citadel's sight. Her role wasn't known>Absolom is entombed in Weavenest Absolom located in the Abyss, potentially being used to study how to use Void to defeat Silk>Murglin was an Engineer, judging from the lore tablet in her Weavenest. She may even have started the Architects. She's probably the Weaver entombed in Underworks. Furthermore, playing Needolin at a spot within talks about the plan to entombed SilkThen there's Keelal, Weaver of the Path. Idk where she is but there are 2 Weavers left in the game, Shellwood and Greymoor.
>>724903420Forced meme. It doesnt sound anything like that for portuguese speakers.
>>724903272Come and get me, flyboy.
>>724903420CE-ERVEZA
>>724903536>>724903550>SINNERS! ALL OF YOU!
>>724903856"die once and go back to fight her">DI A RRHE A!>diarrheawhat did she mean by this?
>>724889581lifeblood seems to be a purely physical infection that, unlike the Radiance, can be purged simply enough by physical means. Like mold in homes, it only seems to thrive in places where civilized people aren't noticing it, or where it is intentionally cultivated.
>>724904201>the negative color of blue is orangehmmm
>>724904201Except that when you encounter the Lifeblood Core, it's in a spiritual vision.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKSfAdbVH0k
>>724903546>guaraná! doesn't sound like guaraná!what
>>724894706prefer the main man himself>Bilan, bilan!
Eira!
>>724901937Is this the Conductor whose helm is discarded in the Sands of Karak?
>>724882896I was looking for you. Thank you. Benny Frank.
>>724901905>I think TC genuinely didn't care about Conductors.My guy, you genuinely don't care about Conductors. You called the Unraveled a trash can because someone caught you out claiming that there's no "Haunting made manifest" boss in the game..
>>724906396The unraveled isn't exactly a character. And he doesn't hold a candle to the Infection bosses in HK1, for reasons already discussed. What's the point of bringing up old stuff I've said unless you have a solid point to make? Its just a non-sequitur. I'll even help you out with a point: Unraveled showcases addiction of silk, thereby indicating that it could be dependency on the substance of GMS that caused the decline of the citadel.
>>724896148Mr. Mushroom looks out of place in both HK and Silksong. Needs a makeover, or better yet, just remove him cause he's not that interesting.
>>724898509Brotherhood...
>>724906974>You cannot stop the Lifeblood infection! It takes over your mind and will!I have no mind to think and I have no will to break.
>>724907169how is he communicating this with no voice to cry suffering?
>>724901421These both have this odd air of ero around them without being sexual.Is it the voices?>>724882994Pantheon of Pharloom soon.
>>724904625good point. and the blurry giant in the background may be a higher being on par with Unn, PK, Radience, etc.
>>724907334nta, he has a voice as THK (boss) but a complete silence as Pure Vessel. pretty neat huh
>>724892863Anon, shut it down! You want the game taken off Steam?
>>724881730>>724881760What's wrong with bug fans? They're just mouth noising like toddlers.
>>724907368Twelfth Architect also has the speech affections (stuttering, the portmantaeus) and a big abdomen.Never got an "eros" impression from willoh. Maybe you like vore?
>>724884020Zazabart...Forgive me...
>>724881730>Pharloom is saved!>Besides the lifeblood crisis which will destroy pharloom
>>724910880I'm sure Sherma will keep his flock safe
>>724882994samehonestly I had a harder time with that guardian bug than the rest of the hearts bosses AND lost lace
lace = mesugakihornet = nopan
>>724911636So Hornet is in fact the bigger slut but hides it.
>>724902128>goes around decimating void nigglets without taking damage>suddenly he just diesfuck you TC
>>724883517>HypnoticI recognize that name, he makes rightwing culture war videos with unhinge thumbnails that look like this.
>>724903536seeex
>>724910880In Steel Soul mode, the steel soul npc makes it clear that the steelfags take big interest in others calling the void. It is stated that the vassal who summoned one small void amalgam will be pursued and killed endlessly.I cannot imagine they will simply ignore the massive abyss outbreak that Pharloom just had even if it's been calmed.
>>724914015>This shit gets millions of viewsWho is watching all of these?
>>724913986If you roam around and keep meeting him fighting in Act 3 he gets more and more fatigued each time you speak to him. Poor fella was pushing himself too hard.
>>724914298south americans and indians
>>724914308Yeah, I just had to kill him but I was too retarded and didnt notice he was getting more tired, Hornet did suggest him to rest but he told me to fuck off
>>724914082Do not sexualize the Grand Mother
Really love that they're delaying adding a boss rush to this game so that they can write some cryptic bullshit story farts that niggers can fap to for hundreds of hours of jewtube video, after delaying this game which is basically identical to the first one, for seven goddamn years in the first place
>>724914298>Who is watching all of these?i have a friend who cant talk about certain topics until he watches one of those videos>wait, i'll see the asmon/gundam/that dude that pissed in his closet
>>724916697They both could have avoided all adversity if they just fucked their sibling like they were supposed to
>>724918131In yi's case, he could also have saved himself a great deal of trouble if he had fucked Eigong, Goumang, Lady E, Ji or Jiequan. They all wanted it bad
>>724882986bapanada
>>724914450I WILL impregnate her, which WILL fix her.
>>724883076so fucking sexy
>>724882986Scourge is hot as fuck
Hegale Shaw
I'm gonna be honest. Three Acts deep, not feeling the beast
witch bros reporting inwhat are you guys using for your 4th blue slotim running druid eyes
Steel Soul all mementos is kicking my butt a bit
>>724882986The only correct answer >>724888621Picrel is a close second. I like when he goes gabagadogibidigap.
>>724888621are they Italian?
>>724925371Behold, a smart bomb
>>724891049>Hollow-likeStop trying to make this shitty term stick. It's a metroidvania. It has abilities scattered throughout a non-linear world, and you can backtrack to prior areas with them to unlock new regions. Having the Zelda 2 pogo doesn't mean jack shit.
>>724893982Snails already exist in HK as snail shamans. Nuu and Unn are slugs.
>>724902617First Sinner was the First among the First. Possibly the first Weaver uplifted or their leader. Also the first to rebel.It's interesting how vengeful GMS is against the Weavers, yet still cares about Lace even after her treachery (and previous neglect). Seems that the First Sinner was right and the Weavers were "fake" children to be used as instruments and adoring slaves by GMS, while Lace was GMS' fragile and imperfect, but "true" child (with the Phantom being a very flawed test run).
>>724897220She says it in the first game, retard-kun. It's also a rare line if you silk spear at 1 mask.
>100% file completion>All achievements>All endings>All relics>All mementos>All memory lockets>Full map completionAm I missing something?
>>724927042Did you get the Purple Quill?If not, bricked save file.
>>724892729I wish they had a new game plus kind of addition where you start with all crests. Getting wanderer so early ruins every other one by comparison.
>GMS is asleep>despite this she creates two literal life forms >still slumbering, Phantom is sent to brood and play the steam organ >Lace trots around Pharloom getting dicked at the Deep Docks and playing pranks >GMS still snoring btw >Lace, despite being created by a literal sleeping parent, decides she is being ignored >GMS (deeply asleep of course) commands her goons to kidnap Hornet>Lace flies into a tantrumMake any of this make sense.
>>724899448>insect wings cape instead of a silken cloak>a sword instead of a needle>armor elements where Hornet's stunning hard shell (commented on by many bugs) would sufficeInto the trash it goes, the entire theme of the character is botched. Too bad, the design of the body isn't half bad, at least for a "realistic Hornet" attempt
>>724927191I WANT to use Witch Crest but I have to wait until halfway through the game
>>724897718I'm not seeing it. The other anon mentioned the Grand Gate, not the elevator to the cradle, but that didn't have anything either. Try this location.
>>724927206GMS can't physically move but is still conscious in her also and can act through thralls ensnared by her silk. Also this was explained to your boyfriend 6 hours ago, not including the time this was explained to him 2 days ago, assuming it isn't you
>>724926150Very few people have played Metroid or Castlevania. These types of non-linear 2D action adventure games with progression tied to unlocking new abilities are now called Hollow-likes
>>724926935>It's interesting how vengeful GMS is against the Weavers, yet still cares about Lace even after her treachery (and previous neglect).GMS says that it's her wish to have loyal "daughters" even if they're flawed silk constructs that will eventually break. She's just fucked up
>>724927317I'm not seeing a push to rename soulslikes to eldenlikes, despite the latter being much more recognizable to normalfaggots. There's just no good reason to break down effective, established terminology because a new game came out in the genre and got really popular. HK is and always will be a metroidvania, because the games don't do enough to justify having their own genre.
>>724927294How can you narratively reconcile GMS' "asleep-but-not-asleepness" with Lace's feeling of neglection ? Are we to believe she is so unfathomably retarded that she failed to realise her mother was sleepy, despite it being the only condition she's ever seen her in ? Do you understand my bemusement with the story beats Silksong expects us to swallow ?
>>724914298Chuds
>>724927085Nope... gonna rope myself, brb
>>724927543Because Radiance in HK1 did the same thing using the infection deapite bring trapped and suppressed in pure vesselRetard
>>724902617Wouldn't "Twelfth of the First" refer to the twelfth child of the first caste (i.e. the first children)?
>>724927510Elden Ring's open world sloppa differentiates it from Souls. Nobody says "Doom-clone" or "Quake-clone" anymore since they're all under the boomer shooter umbrella now. Metroid/Castlevania's cultural strength franchise has decayed immensely, so we all saying Hollow-like now.Also Hollow Knight is probably just way better than those games, but I've yet to try any Hollow-likes other than HK / Silksong.
>>724927759You don't understand me. Let me format my query Reddit style so you can understand. Lace's primary motivation seems to be anger over being neglected by her mother. She doesn't feel loved. Yet GMS does love Lace. The problem is GMS is very, very, very sleepy. So she can't show Lace she loves her! This is tragic. However, GMS has been sleepy the entirety of Lace's life. So, one would assume that Lace would've, over the many years of her life, figured out that her mother is actually sleepy, and this may be the reason why she is rather absent. But she never does. Instead she trots around and seethes, eventually fucking up the entire kingdom in a massive way. I cannot bring myself to possibly believe that Lace, no matter how dimwitted and childish she is, failed to understand that GMS was sleepy. Not actively neglectful. Do you understand, sir?
>>724911636We know ritualposting tranny.
>>724925941>weavelight>not multibinderWhy?
>>724927979>But GMS can exert control over the entire populace of Pharloon through the Haunting, (which she has been doing for several generations), can issue direct commands to her children (stationed Phantom on jannie duty) and actively sent out search parties to find and gather up weaverspawn and bring them back to her, and talks to hornet firectly within the first 5 minutes of the game when she gets a silk heart from the bell beast>she can do all this yet cant show or tell lace she loves her. But it's not neglect! It's because she's very, very sleepy and cant do anything!I repeat: you are a retard.
>>724927909I really hope you're not being serious.>Hollow Knight is probably just way better than those games, but I've yet to try any Hollow-likes other than HK / SilksongGood one, faggot.
>>724902847Read between the lines. A choir sings together as one voice. This bug was preaching heresy.
>>724927979NTA but I do think GMS can communicate in some way? The choral commandments to other kingdoms must have been written by her somehow. Hornet even mentions how the bugs who took her were under ‘one will’. Even with all this though, Lace must have known that her mom just wanted to wake up, right? Maybe its possible GMS needed an actual weaver to wake her up instead of Lace and thats where the resentment comes from. I still don’t fucking get how lace would have been created by GMs while fucking asleep though, or why GMS would not just tell Lace of her plan and give some comfort since she clearly loved her
this should have been one of the endings
>>724895328have you ever read any of lovecraft's works? working while sleeping is eldritch abomination 101
>>724890174What the hell is this from?
>>724928765Would require TC to pay respects to patriarchal authority within a family. Which they apparently won't do, no matter what. The best you'll get is Mooshka and Gurr being competent.
>>724927979There's no evidence GMS "sleep" hinders her from doing anything. Whatever the sleep stops her from doing, TC didn't show it. We know what Radiance is stopped from doing, because when the seal is broken, her power begins seeping out and changing the land. That's what Radiance wants to do. Same cannot be said for GMS. We simply don't know, due to the way the game story is set up.
>>724929767It's part of the quest to get the Witch crest.
>>724897116Practice the Pure Vessel in the Hall Of Gods
>>724914836asmon is the worst for me>yes i'm going to listen to the smelly multimillionaire who never gets out of his dirty rotten house
>>724906974If they make him the protagonist for HK3 I wouldn't mind if they ditched the platformer elements and made it a 2D souls or Sekiro-like instead. He NEEDS to be a tall boi either way.
>>724899448that's not Hornet
>>724890928What do these two series have in common?
>>724907368>sooncouple years at least
>>724881730The fuck did you just call me, bitch?
My Neo-Nazi bug wife!
>>724904116She's commenting on the quality of the game.
>>724882986Hornet
