I am still using win 10 without updates.
>>724896921based retard
>>724896921bro?you're computer is at riskand you say this on the hacking hub?
>>724896921your computer now has 10,000 other users as well
>>724896880jailbroken ps3 is the console of the future
>>724896921This
>>724896880windows 10 ltsc
>>724896880i'm on windows 12, imagine being a win11 grandpa LOL
>>724896880windows 11
>>724896985what else am i suppose to do nigger?
>>724896880WDYM?>Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (21H2) will reach its end of life onJanuary 13, 2032
>>724896985>>724897092Zoomers have to be the most tech illiterate nigger retards ever, which is hilarious because their whole lives have been spent on said tech.
>>724897268>21H2
>>724897305i am older than you tranny and work as system adminyou are the tech illiterate monkey to me lol
I haven't used windows in like 5 years
>>724896880Windows 10. After it killed me with it's mustard gas I just kept using it.
>>724897567this, using Windows in 2000+25
>>724896880windows 10
>>72489688010. ESU
>>724896880I'm waiting for the new release of cachy to make the switch, it was kind of shitty when i used it a long time ago i assume it's much better now
>>724896921Same. One of my old laptops is still on 8.1 and literally nothing happened.>>724896985>>724897092Not how it works.
>>724897197based
>>724896880There's still 1 year of support, though, after that I'm thinking of using 10 LTSC, and then finally jump to Linux.
>>724896985>>724897092>oh no, not the security vulnerability that requires physical access to my hardware!pseudo intellectuals from reddit, everyone.
>>724897674>>724897982>>724898091>win 10without updates??
not only does almost every steam game work, but I can often get non steam games working too with a bit of finaggling. Latest one being duet night abyss, which was quite the ordeal let me tell you. But the fact that it is even possible to play all of these games on linux at all is fucking amazing. Im so fucking happy to be free of microjeet.
>>724896921>he didn't just extend by a year is this a microjeet thread?
>>724898367>extending it by a year and not threeel oh el
>>724898313I said ESU didn't I
>>724898313I even removed windows defender because it's uselesshttps://github.com/ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover
>>724898313>not turning windows updates off immediatelywtf dude
>>724898367>>724898497?
>>724896921same, not gonna update to 11
>>724896880it takes two minutes tops to continue to get security updates for the next three years and you don't need to jump through microsoft's gay hoops to do sohttps://massgrave.dev/#how-to-activate-windows--office--extended-updates-esu
>>724896880Unironically Gentoo.
I dont have this option under update what now?
>>724896880Windows 10 ToT
>>724896880My DSiXL from 2009
>>724896985saaar, why have you not taking the vaccine saaar? Please redeem windows 11 saaaaar! If you no take vaccine saar, the varus will get you saar!
>>724898752see two posts above yours
>>724898629>https://massgrave.dev/#how-to-activate-windows--office--extended-updates-esuthis is actually impressive, looks too good to be true but I'll check it out
>>724898843MAS is great, they have a writeup of how tsforge works here https://massgrave.dev/blog/tsforge
>>724898629i dont understand what this esu is and why it is always on pages with windows activation?
stop windows spyware:https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlockerremove windows defender:https://github.com/ionuttbara/windows-defender-removerBlock Windows updates:https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/remove bloatware/ nvidia telemetry etcprivacy.sexyBlock Windows telemetrywpd.appThat's it. I've done it all
>windows 11 is automatically sending taken screenshots back to Microsoft to feed their AI training dataHow can I spoof this and flood their model with femboy furry porn?
>>724896880Arch btw
>>724898906ESU is extended security updateit's related to activation because ESUs are available by paying microsoft a certain amount each year and they license your copy of windows to receive them for that year. that uses the same method of activation that windows itself uses, hence its relation to activation bypasses.
>>724898942wtf where did all this dolphin porn come from?
>>724898752Install all the remaining updates and it should show up.
>>724898942Thanks but I don't really care anymore anon. They wanna see me whack off I guess they can, the fucking weirdos.
>>724897092my computer is so broken and so close to dying that if someone does try to le epic haxxors it I'll be safe when it hard crashesthat's the way to do it
>>724898629>>724898839i think it worked?i dunno what i did but is it suppose to look like this? the update menu showed me update of defender but it still says no updates any longer
>>724896880Arch Linux.No issues with it.>But what about multi--I'm gonna stop you right there, Chief. Multiplayer is dogshit now a days and all the "solutions" (invasive anti-cheat) don't even fucking work. When they provided dedicated servers and allow the COMMUNITY to moderate it, I'll start caring again.
>>724898946It only does that on the few systems that have a NPU. Your 2017 desktop doesn't have an NPU
>>724899172based. post your fetch
>>724899146yep, you're good to go and should get the updates.there's a bug right now with ESUs in general where it may still show some text saying you aren't getting them, but that's affecting people who bought ESUs through microsoft as well (see https://www.pcworld.com/article/2944058/windows-10-extended-updates-program-not-showing-up-heres-what-to-do.html ). it's just cosmetic and you are in fact getting them.
>>724899146Welcome to the botnet.
>>724899056>i dont get updates help>just update bro and it should workgee thanks
>>724896921Xbox, but for PC stuff where I cannot use a console Windows 11>>724896921>win 10 without updates.enjoy getting hacked by Jeets, they literally are just able to remotely install malware remotely on old windows verison Mr. Retard (even if you didn't download a thing on the computer)
>>724899291AIYEEEEEEEEE
>>724899565>they literally are just able to remotely install malware remotely on old windows version Mr. Retard (even if you didn't download a thing on the computer)in 99% of situations a NAT is going to block random remote access attempts to your local hardware
Windows 11. Removed all the bloat and AI dogshit. Works fine, I just don't get why they removed a handful of QoL features from 10 that I used daily.
>>724899732>Removed all the bloat and AI dogshitThat you know of. Windows is not open source and they are well known for hiding really shady and borderline illegal shit deep within their code.
>>724899276It's obvious that he has a shitty Pentium 4 and a shitty 8800 GT! It's actually rare for Linux fags to have high-end Gaming PCs.>>724899565>he replied to the same post twice!Silly frog poster!You must be really embarrassed right now!
>>724899565>Implying they can't do that on W11 too.Whoa. Israelis can have access just from you viewing a picture uploaded on 4chan. Government literally has tools to get on your PC somehow and call you through it with no search warrants required. All of these faggots should be lined up behind the wall and shot dead.
>>724899896>t's actually rare for Linux fags to have high-end Gaming PCs.but we literally have a screenshot of a linuxfags specs ITT proving you wrong retard.
Linoox has all the gaming stuff doe
>>724899056Surely this could never be a trap. Reminds me of when M$ backported their telemetry spyware to Windows *XP*.
>>724900083where's BattleEye?
>>724900171Why you playing cheatsiegetrannyflop12841 for that to matter?
>>724900053I said rare, not impossible, you butt hurt dumb boy! Learn how to read!If you go to the desktop threads in /g/, you'll see a lot of Linux fags who have objectively shitty computers!
>>724900231>why are you playing games people play you friend having loser?because i have friends
>>724899146Thanks anon, hopefully 6 years will be enough for Linux to get good.
>>724900359>just 6 more yearsheh
>>724898629thank youshitgpt said its properly installed nowi already asked /g/ a few times and they were useless as always and even insulted me >>724896921 I am using win 10 WITH updates now.
>>724900303>I have friends who play trash slop instead of knowing better.I feel bad for you. All my friends on steam list play all kinds of densetsu no kusoge.
>>724896880hehe my Switch
>>724900290>butthurt dumb boyYou should lurk more and brush up on your english a bit instead of insulting talking like a child my esl seething winjeet friend with shitty hardware
>>724896880A distro for my RPI named lakka.It does 240p out of the box on the composite output of the thing.No windows can do any of that.
>>724896880Still using Windows 10. They can't stop me. I'm just doing normal stuff like gaming and watching videos anyway, it's not like Im going to virus downloading sites or something.
>>724900930>no counterargumentYou're retarded and ass blasted, lad!>instead of insulting talking like a child>insulting talkingWow, it looks like you wrecked yourself because you don't know how to speak English perfectly!
>>724896880Still Windows 7 here. No problems.
>>724901386you're reaching levels of damage control that shoudnt even be possible my big lipped spear chucking friend.
>>724896880I'm still on windows 7
>>724896880For the sake of the game industry we need to kill Microsoft as soon as possible. mass adopt linux and kick the cancerous bean counters out of the gaming space.
>>724901571You're just upset because you're embarrassed about what you did! :^)
>>724901682If you think that most people get upset over typos or that typos are an indicator of being ESL over word choice then your grasp of the english language is even worse than i previously thought. Is chat gpt translating for you? Am I just talking to an ai? Is that why you come across like a chat bot?
>>724901840>moving the goal postsCome on, man. I know you're better than this.
>>724896921same>>724896985>>724897092retards
>>724901980
>>724901652If Windows 7 has full UEFI support, I'd use it.Too bad
>>724898942Or I could just install the windows 11 ltsc>>724898946Ltsc has ai, telemetry and all other bloat features ripped out by default thoughbeit.
>>724898752>have this>log in>sorry error, lmaothanks microsoft.
>>724902040I accept your concession, you butt hurt imbecile! :^)
>>724896880It's not you fucking retard. It still has security updates till october/2026 for free.
>>724898313updates are cancer that break it
>>724896880Free updated to Windows 11 but using thisO&O SU10https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10To deactivate telemetry
>>724897092LOL at all the retards taking this post seriously
>>724902695I've never heard of this so I've been making all those changes under group policy, but I'm gonna download it anyway and keep it in storage so it's hopefully easier on my next 10 reinstall.
>>724902695Can't believe there's noobs installing these instead of actually changing the settings themselves. Don't forget to run CCleaner.
>>724903391Works for both.Shame that you have to check it every time an update installs for itself.>>724903548Last time I changed it, Win 11 was running so shittly that it fucked up my main OS NVMe disk>Don't forget to run CCleanerSuuure
>>724897398pipe down, rajesh
>>724898320Can you just add things as non-Steam games and let Steam take care of the rest?
>>724896880im gaming on windows 10
>>724903671Is there not an option for disabling updates? I don't mind going into GPEdit like usual for that either.
>>724902695>trying to get rid of spyware in spywareOS
Bros im a tech illiterate zoomer who was bestoed a gaming pc from my sisters ex bf. Im trying to get gud at using the command screen for file management and reseting me ip and shit but i have no idea what im doing really. Can any of you tech nerds recommend me some expansive reading on the subject? Im a welder and handy with irl tools so it frustrates me that im retarded with computers pls help
>>724896921Thought I was the only one.At first it was pure laziness to install the script or do a reinstall of LTSC. But then it became contrarian stubbornness to tell ms to fuck off. I will continue to use my untampered Win 10 Pro with my local account as I've been using since the beginning back in 2015.
>>724896921benchod
>>724897197>>724902695>>724898942>doing all of this instead of just moving to something like mint or endeavourat a certain point you niggers are putting more effort into keep on getting reamed by windows than it would take to switch over
>>724902695I use this program and the telemetry still runs. Microsoft wins again.
>>724904276>Im trying to get gud at using the command screen for file management and reseting me ip and shitI don't even know what this means. Just read a "Using a computer for dummies" book or something.
>>724903805You can postpone it for several weeks, and that program doesn't allow to automatically download and install "optional" updates
>>724903805Microsoft still has a way to push updates even if you try to turn it off, and some of those will turn the updates back on.You also cannot turn off all of the bundled spyware malware. Some of it runs in the Kernel and does not respect anything you can do.The only way out of either of those is to install on a system with no network hardware and air gap the system.
>>724904412Nigga, I'd lose the ability to like 50% of my games
>>724904950which games
>>724896880>He doesn't have ESUngmi
>>724904982Dunno man, I have like 1000 games
>>724900558np glad it's working
>>724905302EAC games are the only ones ive had issues with. pcsx2 even works fine on mint, im sure you'd be fine.
I installed SteamOS on my desktop even though they said not to bother and everything works fineEven WinAmp and svenwrapper for diablo 2I don't play live service games so none of that stuff impacts meOnly thing I had any trouble with was getting thief to run with the fanpatch and that took like 5 minutes
>>724898320Does Linux have good compatibility with emulators?
>>724899146>enroll now>It doesn't look like you're connected to the internet. Check your connection and try again.>Retry>RepeatSo, what do I do?
>>724898629Which one do you pick? What's the difference?
>>724897092>your computer now has 10,000 other users as wellAll me btw
>still using windows 10 without updates>still pirating the new gamesSo this is what it's like to have sex without a condom on! Not that I ever had sex!
>>724904858>>724904892Are you talking about W11? Because for 10, I force shut off updates every install. Going into Group Policy, going into registry sometimes. It's not just an option that you find normally, there's a bunch of steps to do it.
Still not using linux
>>724907657unbased and unpilled.
>>724907540missed out on sleeping around >just in time to use my pc without a condomLiving on the danger zone
>>724905886From personal experience ryujinx, pcsx2, retroarch, xemu, dolphin, are all native and have no issues
>>724904412Nope. Still not using linux.
>>724907657you dont want to join the club?
>>724896880Still using 10.Added some more firewall protection, a vpn, and other precautions to avoid shit.
>>724908198because youre too scared (and tech illiterate) to try btw
>>724896880still works on my machine
>>724904276Look up stuff on cyber security. CompTIA and things like that.
>>724908328Nope. Still not using linux.
>>724908447because youre too scared (and tech illiterate) to try btw
>>724896921Based. Finally free of gay updates, Win 10 is cozy as fuck.
>>724908484Nope. Still not using it.
>>724908297You know what, i probablly shouldnt have said anything
>>724897305I'm 38
>>724908565because youre too tech illiterate (and scared) to try btw
>>724908649yeah becoming a tranny is pretty fucking scary, I hear they're prone to dying younger than most.
>>724908825>brings up trannies out of nowherebecause youre too tech illiterate (and scared) to try btw
>>724908935uh oh I broke it, then again that's not surprising, it's linux.
>10 dies>a whole 0.5% increase in 11 userslollmao, even
>>724909032because youre too tech illiterate
>>724898367That doesn't work without giving MS your account whatever whatever
>>724907245tsforge is what's used to activate ESUs, the others are for like office or windows activation
>>724896880Ubuntu
>>724905886yes, almost all of them work. even all the switch emulators have linux ports.
>>724909108Still not using linux!
>>724897567The second my college laptop started flipping its shit over a basic Windows update 13 years ago, I switched. The writing was on the wall, and now there's no metaphor that can possibly describe the absolute state of Microsoft and its customers.
>>724908825>hes so scared of being a tranny he is convinced that installing a different operating system will convince him to troon outbro i hate to be the one to tell you this but the only people who need to worry about trooning out are troons.
>>72489688010 LTSC IoTI'm good until 2032
>>724904412there's nothing "just" about migrating to Linux, even a simple one like MX Linux
>>724909108not him but i have a fulltime job so i'm not going to spend a few hours getting my game to work and then saying fucking and booting into windows anyway
>>724909421
>>724896880>*Laughs in Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC*
>>724909652>anons futurejust troon out already and stop shitting up these threads.
>>724896880Windows 10
>>724909697who are you talking to, me or the linuxfags that migrate from /g/?
>>724909652I look like this but I don't rice
>>724904412Linux isn't ready for use yet, hopefully they will fix it after 2030
>>724909754Im talking to you, the insecure little faggot who wont stop talking about trannies in threads that have nothing to do with them because they live rent free in his head. Actual dudes, men, whatever you want to call them, dont think about trannies like you do. You know who does? the ones who are self loathing and repressing their troon desires.
>>724909841That's really awesome linuxtard, small issue, these threads are not vidya and never were.So fucking cry about me shitting up these OS war threads all you want you little scum sucker, go back to /g/ and post your gay fucking sock images there if you don't want people talking bad about your darling loonix. You can play video games on any of the operating systems, it does not matter.Kill yourself, but then again maybe I shouldn't say that, given what happens to the average linux user...
>>724909381because youre too tech illiterate (and scared) to try btw>>724909526ill give adobefags a bit of leeway but thats not the fault of loonix. its adobe going out of their way to make sure it doesnt work. /most/ programs work under linux and the ones that dont often have analogues that are either just as, if not more capable. For the majority of people who just use a computer as a media machine, theres no reason not to use it. >>724909575>it takes hours to click play on steam>it takes hours to click add non steam game to steam, run under protonits one thing if you dont like it, its another to be a retarded faggot speaking in hyperbole for no reason or pretending that windows doesnt have a large swath of asinine issues like>game wont load with logitech mouse plugged in>game only loads if set to chinese timezone
>>724896921>without updatesWhy? You get security updates through 2032.
>>724909993>not vidyaI would say OS compatibility and getting games to run on linux has more to do with video games than your off topic troon obsession or waifu bait threads. For instance: i am currently playing hades 2 which has a native linux port but I can also just play the windows version on linux through proton. You should try it sometime.
>block all outgoing traffic to microsoft IPs on your routerit's that easy
>>724910123>implying microsoft will always use the same ips
>>724910103>OS compatibility is pretty inmportant>I can't play insert xyz on linux>THAT ONE DOESN'T COUNT, THAT GAME SUCKS, IMAGINE WANTING TO PLAY THAT GAMEGo back little loonytroonix. Go back. Your home is calling for you.>>>/g/
>>724896921GiGa based
>>724910195>>I can't play insert xyz on linuxyes, talking about this is relevent to video game discussion, im so glad you can follow a logic thread anon. Now which game do you want to play that you cant?
>>724896880Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC. Sams as I have been for like a year. Why would I change?
>>724910260Fortnite and Battlefield 6
>>724896880
>>724896880Linux Mint. It's been a smooth ride so far.
>>724910323It does suck that FPS games and just competitive multiplayer games have all resigned themselves to just using kernel level anti cheat as their only way to stop cheating, especially when it doesnt work. I wish there was a better method of detection that didnt require giving them access to basically everything on your PC. Battlefield 6 looks like a lot of fun, or atleast it did before the new patch just dropped and now everyones fucking got their pitchforks out about something. I think its skins.
>>724896880>>724896921samefuck updating
>>724896880Windows 11, I have been using it since I have a 12th gen Intel cpu and the jews never back ported the task scheduler for Windows 10
>>724910415Yeah I agree, it's bullshit and absurd what's required to be ran in the background and rooted into the system in order to play a video game these days on your computer.Still not using linux.
>>724910415>especially when it doesnt work.>I don't lock my doors to my house because the lockpicking lawyer can pick any lock
I work in IT. You should really just upgrade to 11. The latest (final) security patch to W10 that they released pushes more telemetry than ever onto your device. They really want info on what users aren't upgrading, whether it be to financial or other reasons. Getting on 11 unironically sends less data to MS now.
>>724910364>Pic Does VR work now?
>>724896880Retroid Pocket 2S I got one 2 years ago and all I’ve played on it has been Bubble Bobble
>>724910782God thing I haven't updated it since 2021 then
>>724910782>The latest (final) security patch to W10I don't update window ever. Not my problem.
>>724911003They’re inside your computer babe
>windows 11>plug new keyboard into PC>press keys>does nothing>have to restart PC to get keyboard to workthey really found the most retarded indians to make this OS didn't they?
>724896880 (OP) (Retarded Homosexual)Kys Retard.
>>724900083TrannywareTrannystoreTrannykernel
>>724911046Better the Russians and Chinese than globohomo Jews. No Russian ever called me a shitlord.
>>724911546Я люблю тeбя
>>724910782They can give me all the advice they want on "trading in" my PC for one capable of running 11, but I'm just not going to dispose of a perfectly good computer that works fine for an asinine reason like an OS downgrade that I don't even want.
>built new PC>decided to try win 11>got ASSROCKED.com>replaced CPU and motherboardWhat version of win 10 should I install?IOT LTSC? or do I try to get the esu>>724898629
>>724913178the longest-term windows 10 solution is iot enterprise ltsc, yes. should last until 2032. you can still use MAS to activate it, though. https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol#windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2021
>w10 education>tried doing pic rel>upgrade fails because windows doesn't know if my rig is compatible with windows 10???
>>724915841setup does some heuristics to determine if your hardware is compatible, it either bugged out (quite likely) or you're missing something important like chipset drivers that help it to actually identify what you're using. if you really want to go this route, a clean install would be the best option, but you can try googling for ways around their shitty detection, maybe there's some way to force it with like a launch option or something.either way, if you're on education you can get by with ESUs for the next three years at least, it's free and takes like a minute or two: >>724898629
>>724916414It's even more hilarious since W11 is basically W10 with a new UI and security stuffThe jump from W7 to W10 was a lot more jarring than the jump from W10 to W11
>>724916276>fix your problems before activating ESU!>do pic rel>my w10 has no command prompt optionI assume I have a borked w10 after fucking around with those anti telemetry shit from years ago.
>>724896880im still getting free updates for the next year
I used windows 11 for 3 years and I just switched to Linux.
>>724898629I'm glad gravel is still working.
>>724917158you can try powershell instead, or windows terminal which acts as a frontend for both
>>724896880Not my problem.
>>724917123W11 is basically the crossroads, Its effectively putting a loaded gun in your mouth and ai and jeets have their finger on the trigger.I don't think its actually acceptable at all fundamentally unless you enjoy being flagged for visits from law enforcement thanks to microsoft copilot and nameless indian men.
>>724917810I was referring to the part where you restart the pc and select the command prompt during the startup troubleshoot
back in the day i used to do all sorts of desktop and browser customization and scripting and shit. but every site, program and windows just constantly updates and breaks shit. so i just gave up
>>724896880I will think about it in 2032.
>>724898946>speedrunner tek.jpg
>>724896880Windows 7 PC, Xbox Series X, PS2, Gamecube.I'm never getting a new Windows computer.
>>724909652
>>724896921/thread
>>724896921At least switch back to Win7 instead of embarrassing yourself then.
>>724896880W10 home.
>>724896880Windows 98
>>724896880Linux. I'm done with Windows.
>>724896921My nigga
>>724896880I installed bazziteIs breddy gud i just havent fucking figured out modding
>>724896921this right here
>>724896880I am still receiving updates.
I tried to turn on Secure Boot and it put some words up on the screen that I couldn't read, so I threw out my computer and got a new phone.
>>724904412>majority of my japanese games can't be played because of proton and wine issues the chief being reversed videos and no audio that can't be fixedYou might be content with playing Tux Racer and believe that it's the best next thing to ever exist since DOOM, but I'm not content to eat penguin shit just to own le microcockI'll see if you penguinfags managed to get your shit in order by 2032.
>>724896921Youre an absolute madman
>>724900558>i already asked /g/ a few times and they were useless as always and even insulted meI gave you that link three times without derision or malice. But clearly you deserved other's insults, you unappreciative retard.
>>724924770sakura my beloved
I'm still getting updates.
win11 with mods
>>724896880I am running a barebones version of Win10 LTSC with everything unnecessary ripped out. Anything security-related by Microsoft, not to mention "security updates" written by a bunch of outsorced subcontinental baboons in Bangalore, are fucking worthless and never provided any protection in the first place; it's a marketing gimmick and fearmongering to get people to switch to 11. Windows has always been a piss-easy system to crack, so it's not like your updates can actually stop anyone who knows their shit from getting access.I keep all important files and data on separate drives that I only connect in case of necessity. There is nothing of worth on my PC proper, and I just sweep it with Malwarebytes once in a while.Once Win10 is completely unable to support new software, much like Win7 today, I will switch to Mint. Or maybe SteamOS, which is essentially the same.Fite me.
>>724897398Why does he have two noses
>>724896880I moved to Win7no wait I'm still on it.
serious question: do /v/ linux desktop users just never install package updates either?
>>724926221most distributions automatically update unless you tell them otherwise because the average /v/ tard won't update by themself.
>>724926294and yet no one complains about this, hmmm interesting.
It took me literally two days of use to accustom to Linux on cachyos Imagine unironically deepening your dependences on Microsoft because you're scared of something new when KDE is basically a windows reskin
>>724926221Linux updates are written by competent programmers and actually tested before release. Compare this to MS security updates, which essentially amount to Durgesh Streetshitabhat rubberstamping some shit cooked up by his codemonkey cousins that'll brick your CPU or something.
>>724896921>>724896985>>724896880The statistical chances of him getting hacked are still pretty low.
>>724926337well updates on linux are easy to toggle off if you're brain damaged and think it's a good idea. on windows you gotta go registry diving or running sketchy scripts.
>>72489688011
>>724926375That's why there's so many patch versions to packages, right? fix: is the linux tranny's favorite start to a commit message.
win11
>>724926221>>724926294On fedora, you choose how often you want to be notified that there are updates, you choose if you want to manually install them or automatically, AND you choose if you want updates to be applied immediately or after reboot. Also, any update for any application, package, etc etc, will have extremely detailed information about everything that is changing. Also, the time it takes to download/apply updates is very very short.This how it should be for EVERY operating system. There is no reason that a person should not have this much choice when it comes to updating and this much information about what the updates contain.
>>724926536And despite them being made by different people shitting out versions more often they're significantly more stable than Rajput's detritus made for a completely controlled environment
>>724925651AGP
>>724926919Pretty sure no chipsets supporting AGP have TPMs.
>>724896921Same. Actually haven't updated since 2021.
>>724909149I just signed in with my old Skype / MSN / Live account, got the extended security updates for free (despite being in the USA.) Then I logged out and reverted to using my local only account. Still getting the updates without using the microsoft account. Their system is so horribly implemented right now you can get the updates for free and not have to use an account.
>>724927275>botnet user #729431if you don't like updating your windows machine there's really only 1 alternative and that's linux.
ive been using windows 11 since the very first day and never had a single issue you are all just a bunch of fucking tin foil hat faggots
>>724910908lol, lmao
>>724896985if you want to make people migrate to W11 then>ditch TPMs and secure boot. they're DRM (you can't replace the endorsement key in TPMs, changing secure boot's platform key often leads to bricks)>stop forcing full disk encryption down people's throats. there are countless stories of people losing their data because of your encryption fuckery>let people use the OS without online accounts. an OS that doesn't work offline and locally is trash>improve performance. a new OS should be FASTER and more lightweight than the previous one, not slower>stop forcing updates down people's throats>stop adding malware, spyware, and ads to the OS>stop shoving AI down people's throatsif you can meet all these demands people will gladly switch
>>724927876you'll switch like everyone else when new games stop running and new hardware won't work on your old system.
>>724927626It is pretty kino to know my PC is helping to kill some sites and scam old people.
>>724927992>delusional gloating>passive aggressive toneWanna know how I know you're a subcontinental dungmuncher?
>>724928364>delusionalso please do tell me, what is your grand solution to new hardware not working on old windows systems? what is your solution to having games not working? what is your solution to having critical vulnerabilities in your installation? you'll install windows 11 because it's not a real choice, microsoft has a monopoly over desktop and it's either upgrade or die.
Swapped to linux mint. Basically no difference from W10 other than it runs better and you might meddle with the ever scary command prompt (wincuck users think this)
>>724928875Everyone runs linux now, sweaty. It has 150% market share. :3
>>724897567I wanted to enjoy Linux gaming, but it meant not being able to watch the RTW Julii leader rant about the stinking g*uls because FMVs don't work and there's no way to fix it
>>724929462i mean yeah linux is the alternative, but these are people that are already terrified of upgrading their windows machine. most people will upgrade to windows 11, some might move to linux but it'll be a tiny minority. linux will only become a real threat when OEMs start selling computers with it preinstalled.
>>724896880amerilards don't get free extended updates?
i went back to windows after 10 years of exclusively linux (arch btw)
>>724929462my local city has started promoting linux and even giving workshops, it's really strangemaybe W11's forced updates fucked something up for thembut I highly doubt the average normie is going to bother
>>724929765tell me something only a linux user would know.
>>724929817if you rm -rf /you rm -rf in real life
I still use my desktop, but it's getting on in years. I'm basically converting my Ipad 11th generation into a pseudo laptop with a keyboard case/trackpad. I don't even game on my PC anymore, so fuck it. I'll just use my Ipad as a laptop. Hell, the fucking CPU in my Ipad is stronger than the Ryzen 7 3700x in my desktop, at least for single core processes, which is 100% what I use it for. I don't give a fuck about multi-core performance. And the GPU doesn't fucking matter if you're not gaming on it, or at least AAA gaming. Really that Ipad will do everything I need as a makeshift computer, and at least it'll continue to get firmware updates/support for the next 4-5 years at the minimum.I'm not upgrading to Windows 11 until I save up the cash for a new gaming desktop, or just an new PC in general. Computers are fucking expensive. Sure, you can get a cheap $400-$500 laptop and it'll do everything you want for light-medium browsing/entertainment. Gaming laptops are still well over $1,000, and a mid-high gaming desktop will run you easily $1,400-$2,000+ I just can't afford that. Black Friday won't be enough to help me unless they markdown like $800-$1,000 laptops down by 40%-50%, which I can't see them doing. They're not gonna take a $1,000 laptop and sell it for $500-$600, and even if they did they'd sell out very quickly.
>>724896985OMG SUPERHACKERS ARE HACKING ME BEHIND NAT SHOCK! INSTALL NEW SECURITY UPDATE NOWINSTALL ANTI-VIRUS INTERNET IS DANGEROUS
>>724896921>without updatesI'm still using W10 with security updates
>>724896880My windows 7 machine of course!
>>724929817its kinda hard to filter prior knowledge but my first thought was how based cgroups, and by extension slices, are.
Every GPU worth using works on Windows 98.
>>724896880bazzite linux
>>724896921my computer has been crashing since the start of november because of my graphics driverNVIDIA isn't updating it anymore so I'm fuckedit's not W10 not getting maintained that's the problem, it's everything else supporting iteventually your web browser will drop support too
>>724896880I primarily use 7 and linux, depending on what I want to play/do. I never used 10, my father did, and it left a really poor impression, in addition to all the spyware it had baked in. 11 is allegedly worse, somehow. I don't know how you guys do it, when linux is right there. Like eating feces when there's a place giving out free burgers.
>>724926221We simply don't have a hostile relationship to the place we get updates from in the first place, they are not our enemies and they aren't trying to enshittify us constantly for profit. The only issue you might encounter is updating to a new major release and not every package or firmware is up to date yet, but your current release will still be supported sometimes for years so you can safely wait until the shiny new thing is ready for you. This is starting to sound like talking to people who had abusive parents and they get confused when you don't yell at them after they drop something on accident.
>>724922573>moddingOutside of Steam mods? I installed Bottles and just run .exe files in the same "bottle" and mods just work.
>>724930241>running ConcordOSISHYGDDT
>>724922573There's specifically a skyrim mod app, called like lime, or some shit. I still havent figured out how to use it either. I just go on win7 still if I want to play skyrim or the older fallouts, since they have my entire loadorder there still.
10 is still getting updates and everything works and it will probably work for at least a year
>>724926221I update once a month. Updates on Linux will update everything at once; the system, the user apps, the drivers, etc. An average Linux updater is a tool of convenience, not oppression. So there's no reason to disable updates.>>724926294>most distributions automatically updateThis is just factually incorrect. They might automatically check for updates, but almost no distribution will automatically download or apply them. The only exception I can think of is Ubuntu and it's "flavors" simply because Snap packages automatically update without the ability to turn this off. But, looking at the Steam Hardware Survey, Ubuntu is barely used by 10% of Linux gamers. Arch, Mint, CachyOS, Bazzite, Fedora, Manjaro or EndeavourOS don't update automatically by default.
>>724930446...and other copes you can tell yourself
>>724930727Windows updates once a month. What's your excuse?
All of the companies who refuse to make their anti-cheats work on Linux now have blood on their hands.The choice some people have to make:>Stay on Windows 10, unsecured and susceptible to getting hacked>If your PC is too old and you're too poor, you have to steal to get the money for a Windows 11-capable PC>Option 3 is, somehow, mustering the willpower to disregard Roblox, Fortnite, League of Legends, Battlefield 6, and every other anti-Linux multiplayer game out there *just going LALALA they don't exist* and installing Linux.You can't expect youngsters to go with Option 3...
>>724926221i update && upgrade about once a week
>>724926221I usually do it once a month or so. I like to let the updates settle first, in case someone fucked up. Like recently where mint was having issues with an update download for a day or two.
>>724931050My excuse for what? Not using Windows? I find it more annoying and difficult to use and I don't want spyware to be baked into my operating system.
>>724928875>what is your solution to having games not working?lollmao evenOnce gaayymes ONLY work on Windows 11 in a few years, there's already going to be literally 20+ years worth of games backlogs and catalogs. Literally who gives a shit by that point.Worst case scenario if someone still refuses the W11 update they'd get that rare BS game on PS5
>>724931451>20 years of backlogmost people play f2p gaas garbage, and i can guarantee you that those won't run on windows 10 in a couple of years.
>>724931432So why use something created by a russian spy with a fixation on Charles Schulz?
>>724931094>Fortnite, League of LegendsDo these no longer work? Do kids even play LoL? LoL is a millennial game, I really doubt anyone under 30 still plays that shit. I guess Fortnite is a zoomer game but I definitely saw it work on Linux a few years ago when it was popular.Either way zoomers love services so they can just play these with nvidia geforce now in their web browser.
>>724930446>>724929981W10 LTSC ... ive had this shit for 20 days now and i had like ZERO big/security updates... wtf, should i be worried? or is this normal for everyone? Does LTSC only get security and updates once in a blue moon?
>>724931682MS only releases updates monthly on the second Tuesday. I'm not sure about 10 LTSC, but any updates normally should be coming up on the 11th of this month.
>>724931574Good for those brainless normie retards.. i havent touched ANY f2p / multiplayer cancer shit in literally 15-17+ years.Probleeeemoooo?? single player/ coop CHADS win.
>>724931682>Does LTSC only get security and updates once in a blue moon?pretty much. ltsc is a stable solution, minimal changes all around. it's not meant for the regular consumer, it's meant for fucking atm machines.
>>724930772you can google this shit retard
>>724931762I can't remember the last time 10 had a feature updateever since 11 released every version of 10 has basically been ltsc
>>724931682>Does LTSC only get security and updates once in a blue moon?LTSC gets a security update every 2nd Tuesday of every month
>>724931734>>724931762Hmm.. so hackers/ malwares etc dont really target LTSC much is what you guys are really saying? meaning it's mostly just Windows defender/ security small patches is what we'd mostly be seeing on LTSC? I mean thats fine by me...
>>724931965LTSC versions only get security updates that patch security vulnerabilities
>>724931895>>724932041ok thanks vros, thats all i really need/want from winblows.
>>724931965as a consumer you want feature updates, ESU is the one for you.
>>724931965I was referring to Microsoft's rollout schedule, which changed because they used to just release patches willy nilly, and corporate users hated having updates pushed to them 6 times a week. They went to a more predictable schedule so people could plan downtime around it.
>w10 pro>copy paste some scripts from massgrave to my powershell>boom more (useless) security updates until 2029I think i'm going to switch to bazzite or any kde/plasma distro after 2030 though
>>724932125W10 is already at the complete end of featuresThe only difference between consumer W10 with ESU or W10 IoT LTSC is that LTSC gets security updates for long
Bazzite OS, not giving any money to Microsoft again after what they did with Xbox and Win11 acting like a spyware stealing your data.
>>724932125>as a consumer you want feature updateslol, NO?? what more """"fEaTuReS"""" would be benefit a consooomer who just plays games, browses 4chan and watches YT and casually browses the web?Copilot? more AI cancer? lol get outa here Rajesh
>>724896880Warframe.
>>724932197i'm guessing windows 10 ltsc has plenty of feature updates that it will simply never get. stable solutions are always bad for regular users, and this is true on linux too, ideally the best is a rolling release with regular feature updates. stable solutions are for businesses, servers and any place where touching any part of the system is a bad idea.
>>724927626YWNBAW
>>724932494feature updates are anything from optimizing your start menu to upgrading core libraries like directx. windows is a bloated mess for sure but that's what you signed up for, delaying the updates is a bad idea all around because you lose all the upsides and still get all the downsides (the bloat)
>>724898169Windows 10 ToT when?
>>724898320>KDEI've heard that the KDE branch fucking shits itself every couple of months.Is Gnome any better?
>>724932576Ok, RanjeeshAll of my software and games work and I'm getting security updates every month
>>724932634>feature updates are anything from optimizing your start menulol, mine works flawlessly>upgrading core libraries like directxkek, dont need any of that, and if i need that shit i cant just download it.....that it? that all you got? yaawwn. Great, no feature updates for me then.
>>724932751well kde is not nicknamed krash DE for no reason. gnome is generally more stable as it has corporate backing and less customization.
>>724932658are you guys going windows 10 trick or treating?
>>724926221You don't have to install feature update on Debian for like 5 years, you only get security updates
>>724932576>any place where touching any part of the system is a bad idea.AKA my fucking computerIt works. Do not touch it.
>>724932751Gnome is solid. As a general rule, the fancier a DE looks, the buggier it is
>>724932957customization inherently requires a lot of maintenance, and nobody's out there testing how 10 different options interact together. you can make gnome very unstable too by installing a bunch of extensions to customize it.
>>724932885yeah and the tricks are being forced to use loonix
>>724896880Win 10 Enterprise LTSC IoTIt’s light and still current
>>724932919Based and factually correct
As usual whenever Linux could make a breakthrough their community makes it clear that the requirement to run any distro isn't to not be afraid of the command line but to be as obnoxious as possible. Then you faggots will cry when no one wants to switch and go for the copium truck while saying shit like you actually prefer to gatekeep it anyway. Every single time. Some things never change.
>>724933396based
>>724933396I hate those posers but you're at least 10 times more obnoxious, acting like you own everyone, as if you had any ground to stand on when windows is dogshit that makes you throw away your working computer because it won't work unless it has the newest DRM chip
Why do shitskins make these threads
>>724932381>not giving any money to MicrosoftBazzite OS is maintained by a Microsoft community manager. You've fallen into a trap.>>724933396>muh communityNobody cares? I wasn't participating in some shitty "Windows community" when I used Windows, why would I be in a Linux community when using Linux?
>>724933830literally, they're paid moneybig publishers want you on windows 11 so they can lock down computers like consoles (TPM+secure boot, "virtualization-based security") and end piracy for good (if you're a bad goy your endorsement keys get banned)
>>724933830these are actually stealth linux threads, thanks microsoft for shitting the bed once again
>>7249339542 more weeks trust the plankek you're a retarded nigger
>>724898169I just swapped over to IoT the other day and it feels slightly more responsive than 10 Home with O&O ShutUp's default tweaks. only annoying part was having to re-do file associations, folder view settings, and my desktop icons.
>>724933683I don't own anyone I'm just saying that if you want people to try whatever it is you're offering the first step is not to behave like a complete sperg and make the thing you're offering appealing something the linux community has failed to do since the start. It is a simple fact that can be observed and you already sperged out. Just imagine someone using a search engine looking for alternatives and finding posts like yours. That really doesn't sell any distro.>>724933782You're completely missing the point.>>724933887>Nobody cares?Missing the point entirely like the other guy. Microshit is already established as the thing you'll have to deal with unless you buy a mac. Linux is the underdog and for the underdog to win it needs good ambassadors but 90% of linux posters online are autists who will do nothing but drive people away from it.
>>724933782>Youll feel better and more in controlTell me 5 things I can't control on windows that I can control on linux. Things that matter. "You can change this folder's permissions" isn't an important change.
>>724934110>"You can change this folder's permissions" isn't an important change.plus you can do it on Windows lol
>>724934110on linux you just own the system, you can do literally anything you want, from recompiling the kernel with custom patches to removing literally any package. windows is a much more limited system in that you are playing in microsoft's sandbox, you can only do what they allow you to do.
>>724934237>you can do literally anything you wantexcept have functional games
>>724898473>extending by three and not 6el oh el
>>724934305https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/nearly-90-percent-of-windows-games-now-run-on-linux-latest-data-shows-as-windows-10-dies-gaming-on-linux-is-more-viable-than-everlet's not forget that wine is just a translation layer for games, native games do exist and run actually better than their windows counter part like baldur's gate 3.
>>724934059>90% of linux posters online are autists who will do nothing but drive people away from it.This is mainly on 4chan. If you go to the ATL discord (https://discord.com/invite/linux) or almost any place on reddit, or any other distro-specific forum, the toxicity gets filtered out.
>>724934463go back
I wish linux had guides. like faqs, like>when you're setting up a service with systemd, where the fuck are all the options for a service? what can you possibly look for when setting up a service?>how do I set up wi-fi supplicant? how do I get it to roam?>how does iw work a ton of its commands aren't exactly documented? how do I improve my fonts? how does fonts.conf work? what are the options and possible values?>I need to plug in a projector. how do I adjust my screen layout, mode, and resolution (e.g. xrandr)? can I add a quick switch button?arch wiki pretty much the only resource that's closest to this and that's a fucking shame. debian and gentoo have some stuff but it's far from completethe main issue is that there's nothing geared at getting you to learn. no documented cookbooks, no nothing. it took me forever to learn what a "here string" and a "here document" were and what they were used for. if someone had just said "oh they're just string literals so you can paste text directly without having to escape shit. former doesn't have a delimiter, latter does" it would have taken 2 secs
>muh LinuxI once tried Linux, back at uni, after few months switched back to Windows (7) to do actual work because nothing fucking worked as it should and I was tired of endless tweaking and problem solving.>b-b-but muh Wine!Shut up, you criticise MS for having to get around lack of older DirectX on new Windows versions and yet defend having to use actual fucking emulator and shut up with your "this emulator is not an emulator".>b-b-but open source alternatives!All garbage. There is no open source alternative for Origin (if you think of EA, then you are retard), RawTherapee and Darktable are made by autists for autists, every single open source CAD software is pure garbage, software I use for work (won't list) refuse to launch on Linux. Linux is good only for ricing and browsing internet, unironically what normalfags would use PC for.
>>724896985The pajeets in MS pushing updates are more dangerous to my machine than some furry hacker.
you all use mas anyway. why are you worried about security when you literally willingly installed a rootkit?
>>724934463having expectations that you aren't a bumbling retard isn't "toxicity" you moron. your pro-retardation mentality has led to shit like jewgle and crapple getting away with locking down android and ios. soon you won't be able to install apks anymore without disabling jewgle play services (which 90%+ of apps demand)
And bonus points for Linux Witnesses being both autistic and retarded.>Windows will install updates on its own without control!>you can disable that>no, you can't!>yes, you can, it's all in MS own manuals and articles, there is an option for registry edit or group policies, GP is safer>it will reset on next update anyway!>no, it won't>IT WILL, YOU ARE LYING, YOU CAN'T TRUST MS OWN MANUALS, JUST LESVE ME ALONEEvery time.
>>724934654uh uh, any time now
>>724896921Based and same
>>724934623Excuse me, all my Windows copies are completely legal.
Why is W10 suddenly considered good? Will the same shit happen to W11 once 12 is out?
>>724896880Install CachyOS
I'm on Windows 9
>>724934654You can cry all you want but you're already too late. Multiple Linux distributions are more retard-proof than Windows and macOS. You've already lost your war of gatekeeping Linux for 3-digit IQ people. Clearly nobody who matters wants to gatekeep Linux this way.
>>724934867Because it is good, straight upgrade from 7. Only legit complaints I heard were about moving too much of options to Group Policy editor but then again, I can totally understand the reasoning (if you are smart enough to access and use this simple software, you are smart enough to be allowed to tweak with those settings).>>724934901But anon, 7 8 9
>>724935132>Only legit complaints I heard were about moving too much of options to Group Policy editorWere you even born in 2015 when Windows 10 was coming out? The main reason people hated it is because:>We will spy on you, but you can toggle this option for us to spy on you slightly less!>It's normal for updates to break things, stop complaining! No, you CANNOT turn updates off!>What do you mean some intern made the whole UI in MS Paint? Do you not like this cheap ass oversimplified design system?
>>724934305I guess when I play games I'm actually not playing them, I'm imagining myself playing them.
>>724935307is being a retard who plays coy a prerequisite for using your pretend OS? you're sure doing a good jobenjoy your machine throwing errors for simple games
>>724897025>>724897092>>724898313>>724899565paid shills trying to alarm you into accepting the Win 11 shitshow
>>724935415To be fair to him, both Ubuntu and Mint sucked ass back when Microsoft was transitioning from Windows 7 to 10. Linux was still a janky piece of shit until around 2020-2022.>>724934582>Linux is good only for ricing and browsing internet, unironically what normalfags would use PC for.Normalfags haven't been using computers in years. At most they have a shitty $200-$400 laptop just in case they need it once every few months.
>>724896921>>724896880You can get updates for free in the US, yknow, it was all a scamWin 10 is fine, 11 is actively worse so there's no reason to not use 10
>>724897092Still less users than your mom has thoughbeit
>>724935629>linuxgets better every year>windowsenshittifies further every year
>>724935292MS on their own TechNet outright stated at the very start that they are aware how pointless it would be to collect any sort of data on offline machines and provided methods of disabling telemetry completely. Same for updates, Group Policy setting lets you disable them completely and another to "lock" your Windows on desired feature version. It's all in their fucking manual, only TechNet is named differently now. What people sperged about was how preview version had telemetry almost on keylogging level, which was also openly stated by MS (but people are dumb to just click "next", as usual) and some Russian "hackers" (really trustworthy source, totally) claimed it extend to any future versions too.I was, at one point, explaining why these assumptions are wrong but I got tired by people asking how much MS pays me so I stopped. Maybe MS should pay me after all.
>>724896880Microsoft is making the best advertisement for Linux
>>724935542Have you tried not making shit up for once in your life? If I play video games, then clearly they are functional.Besides, who the fuck are you to talk about functional games? I used Windows for decades so I know how bad things can get there. I encountered games that didn't run correctly on Windows 10 and I doubt Windows 11 has improved that situation.
>muh troonixStill only 3% of total Steam users. And you know why? Because the wrapper they use to play Windows games must convert the shaders on the fly, just like a fucking Switch emulator, hence all the inevitable stutter. It's an objectively worse experience, and what for? Just so that you can blow off Microsoft?>inb4 muh pre-compiled shader packs for top 100 most popular gamesYeah, yeah, and they get invalidated every patch btw.
>>724935876>he keeps coming to seetheit's hilarious seeing you winjeets have a meltdown at the mere mention of lunix
>>724935876I'm not even sure if you're just stupid or you know you're lying and are doing it deliberately because both seem possible.
>>724896921
>>724935415>All you need is a browser and word processingThis is single the stupidest thing I heard today. I was in PhD studies from applied physics, do not compare your shit-studies from tourism or other bullshit.
>>724934582>uni>nothing fucking workedLet me guess, gnome. Learning institutions always push gnome
>>724935980>>724935983Why are YOU lying? Here's the setting in the Steam client under downloads, everyone can see it, even us Windows users.Proton wraps everything to Vulkan, hence the need to compile shaders. Why deny this reality? lmao
>>724898284>I am incapable of understanding the fact that more security vulnerabilities will be discovered and will no longer be fixed.You're not even qualified to be a pseud
>>724935876Actually shaders get precached for DXVK and vulkan when using steam AND mesa/proton improvements make linux have a smoother experience than windows. Windows is the OS that needs to build cache specifically if there's not a preshader cache compilation in the game specifically like detroit become human or last of us.
>>724936094Because I was actually doing some WORK on my PC, unlike Linux Witnesses who only do ricing and neverending tweaking.We had Linux (Debian IIRC) on lab PC simply because it had to control single measuring station so it required only software coded by us for this specific task. It would still randomly scramble data and USB ports without warning or reason so we lost at least few measurements as a result on regular basis. Best part was how community was aware of this bug and nobody, NOBODY knew how to fix it. Peak Linux moment.
>>724936136Shaders have to be compiled no matter what API they use. Whether it's Vulkan or DX12. On Linux, you can do the caching before running the game, on Windows it depends on whether the developers have implemented a pre-caching mechanism or just compile shaders as you play.Typically shaders on Windows are just compiled during gameplay which can introduce stutters.
>>724910323just get an xbox for multiplayer
>>724936119>nothing fucking workedsounds more like kde to me. but in all seriousness a lot of people come to linux and expect it to work exactly like windows which leads to this type of reaction.
>>724936319On Windows the shaders are usually compiled during loading screens.
>>724936316I agree with your but your retarded apparently slavic ESL ass sounds stupid
>>724936136Are you just pretending to be retarded? Shaders are compiled before the game launches unless you manually skip it or you globally toggle the setting to always skip shader compilation and do it during run time. Again, just like it's done on some console emulators. Console emulators, just like Steam, compile shaders before launching the game because nobody wants to experience stutters. It's the user choice to skip that step and instead compile shaders during the actual gameplay that causes stutters.
>>724936375>it's akshually windows' fault!!!KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>724936119I actually tried some Ubuntu fork but yeah, most PCs without Windows were using Gnome. Why pushing it? No idea but since head IT guy at my faculty insisted that GUI in OS is pointless since you can do everything from console, Im guessing it was some sort of autism.
>>724936390Like I said, it depends on game. Not all games implement it the same way. There are plenty of games on Windows where you can get a better experience on second play through because it has built a cache of shaders during the first run.
>>724936316>Peak Linux moment.bugs happen, windows has plenty too. fyi linux is used on 70% of cellphones today which is certainly not just "only ricing and neverending tweaking"
>>724936394>I agree>...but ur stupidKek.
>>724934237I don't think I want to ever recompile the kernel, whatever that means. And if I want any new program running I can just install it. Whatever "packages" you're packing man, I don't need.As I said, is there anything meaningful you can do on Linux that you can't on windows?
>>724936458if it was an usb problem it likely had nothing to do with the desktop environment anyways. there's plenty of potential culprits from the usb device itself to the kernel. > No idea but since head IT guy at my faculty insisted that GUI in OS is pointless since you can do everything from consolesounds like a smart man, you should take note.
>>724936491This particular bug was jeopardising whole purpose of this specific machine. When you control various devices via USB, you cannot have it randomly change numbers and, for example, suddenly change port 02 to 06 and 06 to 03. We had to write extra instructions just to make software check if it really try to connect with correct device and still only for safety purposes. This was pissing me off.
>>724936656Very fucking smart, at one lecture spent whooping 20 minutes trying to adjust resolution on projector using only command line.
>>724896921This but using Windows 10 Pro, which is still getting updates
>>724936638>recompile the kernellinux is open source, which means anyone can patch it, to change the way it functions. there's plenty of alternative linux kernel builds like linux-zen. https://github.com/zen-kernel/zen-kernel
>>724936458I fucking hate that mentality. They always start with the terminal instead of easing people in with desktops
>>724896880windows ame, 7 and 10 merged together, works like a charm
>>724936812Yes but for what purpose?I'm a driver, not a car mechanic. I don't want to know how the engine works. I stick to the car that runs and does what I expect a car to do.
>>724936429lmao what, you can't pre-compile shaders on emulators, not even the ones for really old consoles like Gamecube/Wii, it's one of the main reasons why emulation will always be worse than real hardware, in addition to the input lag
>>724896880>>724896921fpbp
>>724936962>you can't pre-compile shaders on emulatorsMy Switch and PS1 emulators pre-compile shaders. Get fucked.
I installed Mint a week ago and it just work. Steam and GoG (with Lutris) games work out of the box, and I’ve easily created my first wine prefixes for cases where I wanted something more complicated.PC feels more responsive and easy to use than ever.The only hard requirement for Linux is to not be a complete retard who need constant hand-holding.
>>724937093ESL
>>724937093>The only hard requirement for Linux is to not be a complete retard who need constant hand-holding.This isn't even true. My retard friend has been on Bazzite for a year as his first non-Windows and non-Android operating system. He has zero issues whatsoever.
>>724896921Everyone have been doing this
>>724937092You don't know how it works lmao
>>724937093>troonix user>thirdielike clockworkLet me guess, you also pirate most of your games?
>>724936950on windows you're at the mercy of whatever microsoft wants to do, from adding ads to the start menu to forcing the task bar at the bottom, and if you can disable those it's because they allow it. that's the key difference between linux and windows, on linux if you don't like something you can just fork the software, patch it and rebuid it. while you yourself might not be interested in doing the patching, you still benefit from this as you can install the forked software like linux-zen in a couple of commands.
>>724937189>My retard friendwhy are you friends with a retard..?
>>724937393skill issue
>>724909652>34 minuteschrist don't people know how to consolidate information anymore
>>724937712longer video = more money
>>724896880Kill yourself jeet faggot
>>724931636fortnite doesn't work on linux because gabe makes timmy seeth and he wants steamos to fail
Arch
>>724938448>4 million players and growingit's just a matter of time till he bends the knee to the almighty dollar.
>>724936491>70% of phoneposters are using linuxHoly fuck if that's not grounds for total penguin death I don't know what is.
>>724932576Define features, everything I want to run does run. Do you just mean "features" like ai bloatware and the ms store or something else that I can't get with winget?
>>724930249>goyvidia is fucking me in the arseWhen will you faggots learn?
>>724938984>featureit's really anything from bugfixes to new shit like hdr. >wingetregular users won't think about tha lmao. when their games won't work they're not gonna think, duh i should've winget'ed the latest version of directx.
>>724899896you silly faggot! :3>>724924603what games and hardware
>>724896880My desktop is on Windows 11 right now.However I have a laptop for college with Linux Mint installed on it, and I plan on switching my desktop to Bazzite (with 10 LTSC on the side for those few games that won't work) after I sort some files out, depending on how fast I get used to Linux.
>>724896880I've got win10 ltsc on my pc but I've installed CachyOS on my laptop and have been enjoying it so far. I don't think I could use it on my desktop though since wayland apparently really doesn't like nvidia
>>724896880not my problem bucko
>>724931636>Do kids even play LoL?Theyve been hemorrhaging players for years. They even made that shit anime to try and get zoomies and alpha into the game, and it failed completely.
>>724931094Is there a single good game that requires kernal level anti-cheats? I don't use linux but I can't think of any games that would stop me shifting.
>>724940451it's mostly multiplayer pvp games that require kernel level anti cheat. if you only play casual games and single player games you're pretty much in the clear.
Something funny happened somewhere around windows 7 era, and now suddenly everyone is convinced that that new system-breaking critical vulnerabilities are found every day and that if you won't update, epic hacker will immediately find your pc and rape your ass. The biggest danger you've exposed yourself to on the internet was leaving your real name in your 2015 github student project using github nickname that's same as your steam account name, not a newly discovered windows 10 vulnerability that allows someone to gain access to your registry if you'll open a pdf with hidden code injection using exactly and specifically internet explorer 11.287742.321
>>724940451oh and a couple of resources for linux compatibility: https://areweanticheatyet.com/and proton: https://www.protondb.com/
>>724934582your experience was typical of that time period, it has gotten better but you still have this experience when something breaks>>724936119he mentioned windows 7 and in that time period gnome and kde were really the only good options. now gnome sucks ass and most of its forks are way better than it.>>724935783in fairness a lot of people are on home (many computers come with it) and home has never had group policy. your options are registry bullshit to do the same thing or these days you can edition change pretty easily or download something like policyplus to work around the limitation.
>>724940575>Something funny happened somewhere around windows 7 era, and now suddenly everyone is convinced that that new system-breaking critical vulnerabilities are found every day and that if you won't update, epic hacker will immediately find your pc and rape your ass.it was corpos realizing that it was bad for business to give people finished software that doesn't need updates. nowadays every single fucking app wants internet access and so every fucking thing is designed to need 20 updates a week or else ngers will tongue your anus or somethingblame appstores, they encouraged this bullshit via constant planned obsolescence
>>724940623I couldn't see anything worth playing that was unplayable so I guess the only reasons I have are hardware compatibility and adobe
>>724941309the least retarded way to switch is to just get another ssd and install linux on thatdual booting is a great practice to have because you're not going to fuck up two operating systems at once
>>724939339Akiba's Trip 2 for example, while a newer update on GE's branch seems to have fixed the upside down videos by flipping something from a 1 to a 0, the process also broke other stuff, so it looks like you have to make a config on a per game basis, the sound issue however afaik is still not fixed. The issue is hardware agnostic but if you want to know RTX 3060 Ti and a 5600X
>>724941693problem with japanese games is that they like to do their own engines and hacks which are very hard for compatibility on wine, not to mention locale and rtl issues. but feel free to submit bug reports upstream, complaining here won't do much of anything.
>>724941693Guaranteed jp quality.
>>724897197funny, I'm using this and had a dream last night of receiving an update that broke the stolen product keys
>>724942391I don't think it's worth it for them is it? fucking up and revoking the licenses for some legitimate businesses is a lot more of a hassle than some online shitters dodging keys
>>724941309>adobeDoes anyone even use this shit at home? Competition has been fierce and even most Adobe products can just be used in a web browser.
>>724942869I use lightroom for photos and photoshop is far better than any online converter for turning mp4s into gifs
>>724943225>using gifs in 2025please use vp9 like everyone else.
>>724943356Why? I want a looping animated image not a video.
>>724943604>whygif is an awful video format.
>>724943771but it just werks and it's better for reactions
>>724943356>"Just use a gun and kill yourself"yeah ok man , you do that while I enjoy my gif and jelly
>>724896880My pc does have 11 because I play on an oled tv and wanted auto hdr, but I do primarily play just on my steam deck these days
>>724943225>turning mp4s into gifsMy nigger you can literally use anything that uses ffmpeg behind the scenes, like HandBrake, considering ffmpeg is the de facto industry standard for video conversion and manipulation. Or just ask ChatGPT to give you a command to run in your terminal:>ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vf "fps=15,scale=480:-1:flags=lanczos" -loop 0 output.gifYou don't need Adobe for any of this.
>>724896921Just extend for the additional year and learn Linux in the meantime.
>>724944245It's just the thing I use photoshop for. Lightroom is the more important of the two, not being able to make gifs with photoshop isn't this monumental roadblock to using linux.
>>724896880Works on my machine.>>724896921picrel
>>724937393There are hundreds of patches to fix windows behaviour already. I fixed the adds in my main menu and customized all of what I need.
>>724896880Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC (lasts until 2032)
>>724944245>>ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vf "fps=15,scale=480:-1:flags=lanczos" -loop 0 output.gifyou forgot to generate a color pallette and specify dithering type
>>724930249Hasn't happened to 7 yet
>>724943356I'd use jxl if browsers and 4chan stopped being such backwater places.
Zoomers literally don't understand the concept of completed software. Everything must be getting eternal updates or it's "dead". Seemingly obvious criteria like the fact that it still fucking works just elude them.
>>724896921Same, fuck updates.I also disabled updates to my browser because it kept wanting to transition to some gay gamer gx shit.Fuck updates.
>>724897268>(21H2)Saar...
>>724945612meanwhile on linux
>>724945965Plz gibe more Plasma updates. I like new features.
>>724935660How?
>use W11 at work>copilot icon is just about everywhere nowWhat the actual fuck is it for? Do they expect me to click on copilot in outlook to write me an email instead of writing an email myself?
>>724946349Yup. Which means pretty soon they won't need you to click on it. Plan accordingly.
>>724946349>What the actual fuck is it for? Have you tried pressing it? You're getting fired if a new hire comes in and actually knows how to utilize ALL functions in Microsoft 365.
>>724946349Yes, stop wasting your time typing your own emails before your boss notices you're using the company's time to do things manually, when you could easily automate them.
>>724946427>>724946404Funny of you to assume that my job security relies on fucking outlook just because that's what we use for mail.But let me guess, whatever it is you imagine I'm doing, the magical AI will replace in 2 more weeks.
>>724946575It already replaced one segment of your job. But surely technology won't move forward anymore. For the next 3000 years, this is how far we go...right? Right, anon?
>>724946642You are a NEET. At best a McJobber. It's very obvious.
Linux will never take off until it can natively run windows .exes
I already did the switch a year ago but I'm still mad, IT TOOK THEM A DECADE TO FIX THIS SHIT THAT PLAGUED ME.>Click update and shut down>Go to bed>Updates takes forever and restarts the pc>Have to get out of bed now.NIGGERS.
>>724944964I didn't, ChatGPT did. I do all my work in a GUI.>>724944468You don't find RawTherapee or Darktable good enough as alternatives?Is the online version of Lightroom less capable than the offline/native version? I thought that Lightroom was just a webapp considering it's available in web browsers and is also supposed to be 100% cross-compatible between the browser version and Android, iOS and Windows version.I'll be honest I don't use any of the above, I'm a zoomer doing all my photo editing in Snapseed and KolourPaint.
>>724945612>>724945965Its amazing how my attitude shifted towards updates when they didn't risk bricking my system or forcing a restart against my will. I still disable most third party program updates because they can't be trusted not to fuck everything up (i'm looking at you Pinta)
>>724946776It's 1992 and a little software project called Wine is just beginning
>>724946404You might be joking but one of MS top management guy claimed that in "da future" people won't be using mouse or keyboard at all, just tell their AI assistants what they want. Or it was one of those from OpenAI or whatever. Grim.
>>724946575You're right I don't. I'm just speaking for the plurality of office drones-- and it's not that AI will replace you, but that AI will demonstrate your position wasn't doing anything anyways. Corporate offices are filled to the brim with pointless make-work and paper shuffling.I use you in the plural sense-- this may not apply to you personally at all.
>>724946974considering how mobile has completely eclipsed desktop pcs i'd say he's correct.though you'll be talking with your ai assistant directly hooked into your brain and not through speech.
>>724946349Reminder that the only reason AI is shoved everywhere even if it doesn't make sense, is that over 90% of US GDP growth in the last year comes from AI companies moving money between each other. Forget petrodollar, we're doing AIdollar now. You don't seem to understand just how deep it goes. If they don't find a profitable application of AI, our economy is actually fucking done. Nvidia and friends are the only thing standing between us and total Chinese dominance. And there's still no profit in sight, just hopeful investors who are mostly being lied to.
>>724946886Wine is a piece of shit and a far cry from native exe support.
>>724946853>RawTherapee or DarktableNTA but they are all weird in their own way. Darktable developers change ideas about direction frequently, messing up old macros and workflow. Lately they removed fucking "contrast, brightness, saturation" module because "color correction" or whatever else "can do the same and more" while the module in question outright states in their own fucking manual that it shouldn't be used by users who are not familiar with colour theory. So basically they remove easy and working module in favour of complex and powerful module that require fucking studies to grasp. In 90% cases you really just need to slap that +10% saturation and don't need to manually adjust chroma/luma channels in shadows/midtones/highlights separately. And when I have 2-3k photos from the event and work on selected 100-200, I sure DO need automation instead of sitting at every single photo and manually adjust everything.And let's not start at how Darktable noise reduction is a mess that would love to melt your details instead.
>>724947195>our economy is actually fucking doneNot really. The AI bubble popping wouldn't affect most people or most industries.
>>724947195NTA but does that mean that, since AI bubble is predicted to burst soon, we are just one step away from total China/India domination?
>>724947502I believe India at least will turn out to be a self-correcting problem. China dominance is a likely scenario though. Well, unless an actual major war breaks out - in that case you'll have USA (more military spendings than numbers 2 through 9 combined) vs China (their navy loses ships to their own mine traps)
>>724947747I don't think that any side wants actual war as both have it at much worse state that they openly claim and don't want to say "check".India shares China lack of morals but, fortunately for everyone else, lacks China intelligence and planning capabilities.
Linux Mint is my favorite these days. I ditched Windows 11 like two years ago I think and went full Linux. Fuck Microsoft at this point -- they're half the reason everything in vidya and tech at large actually blows
>>724945612these niggas are the ones who complain by their favorite [software] being buggy, slow, and shows them AGGRESSIVE advertisements in a year. smdh head
Arch Linux
>>724897268>21H2Wait...Is that...An old OS release?Nooooooo!!!!!! I must UPDOOOOOOT!!!!!
11? I've been on it for a year now and had no issues.
Copilot is so useful that MS employees are actually being forced to use it. I wish I was making this up, but they really have an "AI assisted workflow" quota to fill.
>>724946879worst of all are the updates that>overhaul the program, using more bloated libraries (bonus points for CEF or electronshit)>add spam and/or bloat. especially features tied to external services (and you can't self-host)>remove functionality (bonus points if the features go to a separate paid version. extra bonus points if it changes to be subscription-based)>forbid downgrades. don't like it? get fucked. hope softpedia or some other mirror has it>erase everything and require you to start over
>>724950169>bonus points for CEF or electronshitI cannot begin to describe my hatred for this taking over everything as "apps"
>>724896880But I still have windows 10 and its getting security updates?
>Data stealing windows10/11 (Win 11 updates can kill your PC)>Linux is shitty as always (you gotta learn, it's easy! *proceeds to show 20 pages of steps to run a single program*>MacOS is """exclusive""" to Apple hardware: expensive, barely any game compatible, giving money to those assholesI still have hopes for SteamOS to end this crap of OS in PC
>>724951516SteamOS is just OEM Arch linux.
>>724951610Doesn't matter if its Linux or not. What matters is that i can trust Gaben to give me a decent product that would actually work and run my games.
>>724952008Anon i hate to tell you this but there is ZERO difference in running games on steam OS and any other linux OS if you are using steam and proton.
>>724950035THE FUTURE IS NOW SIR
>>724952008Bazzite is the same exact experience as SteamOS.
>>724952156Bullshit, Gaben wouldn't lie.
>>724952156normies aren't going to start installing linux unless there's a valve logo on top.>>724952008fyi valve has 0 interest in desktop linux, you'll be better served with regular distributions like fedora.
The only things that matters is1. Can I run Steam and its games?2. Can I run Microsoft Office?3. Can I run MPC-like software to watch my anime (and movies) in peace?This is all I ask of a desktop computer, and yet only Microsoft provides me with such product. Why is that?
>>724952412Your problem is that you are a luddite who doesnt understand how computers work on such a basic and fundamental level that you have to rely on someone you can trust to tell you what to use. If you actually take the time to understand how things work linux itself becomes less scary and you will be able to do a lot more with your machine than you ever imagined.
>>724952156SteamOS has custom kernel and config files methinks
>>724952334Correction, it's the same exact experience only if you install their "Steam Deck" mode version and only if you're on Intel or AMD. noVidya users are stuck with the regular desktop mode.>>724952413>normies aren't going to start installing linux unless there's a valve logo on top.Correction:>normies aren't going to start installing linuxNormies aren't installing operating systems. The silent majority of people are using whatever comes pre-installed with their laptop or computer. Which is why Linux will forever be irrelevant until some major OEM starts selling Linux devices that have better price/performance compared to Windows devices.
>>724952412When did Gabem claim that Proton doesn't work on other distros?
>>7249525561. yes2. libreoffice3. we have dozens of those like good ol' vlc sounds like you're ready for linux anon.
>>724952556>Can I run Microsoft Office?Why do you specifically need microsoft office and why is open office/libre office or any other alternative not good enough.> Can I run MPC-like software to watch my anime (and movies) in peace?Are you... retarded? You really think you cant watch anime locally on linux? Im literally watching it right now. There are like 20 different video players that work on linux.
>>724896921dito
im gaming on my m3 MacBook Pro. you might ask why? why would I do that?because I literally only play runescape and nothing else.it's a simple life.
>>724952748>There are like 20 different video players that work on linux.that's honestly a low ballpark. anyways most of those are just frontends for gstreamer and mpv.
>>724952826Based
I updated to win11 because I don't want to risk getting a virus or a net-worm.>And by "risk" I actually mean "guaranteed"
>>724952684>2. libreofficelol>3. we have dozens of those like good ol' vlc>VLClmao evenNever reply to me again.
These threads are real blackpills on just how fucking retarded and computer illiterate the average /v/irgin is.
>>724952860>most of those are just frontends for gstreamer and mpvwindows/macos anon...
>>724952748>Why do you specifically need microsoft officeI need the cloud and its compatible with my office job.>>724952748>There are like 20 different video players that work on linux.And there are hundreds if not thousands on Windows, yet I only use one type of video player for one simple reason. MadVR. I refuse to watch anime without MadVR.
>>724953023/v/ is probably the board with the highest install base of nintendo console or phone (for gaming)
>antivirus: NOT INSTALLED>windows firewall: DISABLED>updates: DISABLEDyep, time to game24 years of using pc, never been hacked or anythingliterally just don't install exes from shady russian sites,don't open spam mails and don't pirate game repacks with miners in themwhy are zoomers so obsessed with updates and think their machine is unusable or they will instantly get hacked the day something loses support? I haven't updated windows 10 since I installed itnobody will waste a 0day on your fucking pc with counter strike and some porn
>>724953023The AVERAGE age of the male /v/ermin is 20 years old btw.
>>724953023>computer literacydumb millennial thinks we should all have a CS degree just to play video games,I think computers should be easy to use enough for everyone to pick up and use.Also viruses are fucking real, do you live in fucking LALA-LAND? ??Go gatekeep your mom's open legs you faggot
>>724953158Legitimate question, do you know what a botnet is? This isnt some gatcha, im genuinely curious as to how you can be sure that you dont have malware on your computer silently running in the background without you knowing.
>>724953327>Also viruses are fucking reallolzoomers can't be this fucking retarded
>>724953327You have to be 18 years of age or older to post on this website. Incoming underage b&
>>724953338I tend not to lose sleep over unnoticeable things that don't afect me. You might as well ask "are you aware there could be gnomes in your back yard?"
>>724953338not him but as long as it doesn't slow my computer downI don't give a shit how many malwares I'm running. Thsi isn't the 90s anymore where having ONE (yes one) malware running in the background would literally destroy your computer because it slowed it down to a crawl. Now we have SSDs and 32gb RAM (mininum btw), we could be running 7m malwares and never even notice it, and that's a good thing.Who gives a shit you had cancer for 60 years of your life if you ended up dying from a heart attack complitely unrelated to the cancer? Just enjoy your life buddy, specially when reformatting windows is as easy as it is nowadays>
>>724953338>open task manager>no botnet.exe>no random cpu spikes>no weird internet activitysooner retards who install fatfuck game repacks will be part of botnet than me who runs only safe shit
>Developers suggest Windows 11 to play their games>So I am installing Windows 11, because it is the best way to play the gameSimple
>>724953097You don't even know what madVR does.
>>724953721You can't even run madVR without understanding how it works since you have to configure it manually. There are no internet guides that can give you a madVR config that "jt works" on your machine.
>>724953486>i can't have a virus if i don't checkparanoia and security go hand in hand.
>>724953789If I need to check then it's not a very scary virus.
>>724953789Let's say I have a virus, how does that affect me?Steam works fine. Browser and 4chan works fine. Youtube works fine. Videoplayer works fine. Photoshop works fine. Please explain.
>>724953765madvr literally has aislop in it
>>724896880There is no debateUpgrade to Windows 11
>>724953882Theres no way anyone is actually this retarded right.
>>724953936...and? I'm no an anti-AI tranny.
>>724954004Aislop is the definition of "you don't know what it does". Holy giga tech illiterate.
>>724954097You're not very good at convincing people of your position...
>>724954004stay on windows ai bro. it's a perfect ai system.
>>724954170Windows was literally built on AI and for AI.
>>724953584malware devs just moved on to bloatware like overwolf where normies will happily give you all the data you could dream of.
>>724953882This. As long as everything works and none of my shit gets deleted I don't care.
>>724896921redeem, you bloody bastard bloody
>>724954295what a good goy you are.
>>724954602You've been given 20 minutes to explain your position and so far you got nothing.Virus are bad because...they just are? Even if they don't do anything?
>>724953327>you need a CS degree to use this
>there could be hypothetical invisible malware running in the background, that never actually does anything you're able to notice!>and maybe the update will save you from it, there's no way to be sure thoThis is the stage MS shills are at.
>>724954698No you know what, go ahead, you're right anon, viruses are totally fine ;)
>>724954912They are. Glad your paranoia was healed.
>>724954698>Even if they don't do anything?i can't tell whether you're joking or not. they wouldn't bother deploying these botnets just to do nothing. these botnets are used to ddos websites and plenty of other shit. they can also obviously be used as regular viruses at the flick of a command as they are already embbed into your system. anyone can deal with a virus that instantly shows itself, this is a more latent threat that keeps sysadmins up at night.
>>724954895It's fucking hilarious.
so is "tranny" the new faggot and everyone only uses it in the sense of "idiot" anymore not talking about actual transvestites
