Are they going to do wormhole time travel after establishing fake canon that Shepard and Ryder were female to explain Geth surviving and Andromeda race coming back to Milky Way?
>>724899143Shepard's rumored to be a helmeted AI so I can imagine they will blend the voices and everyone refers to him as a "they" because he's an AI as a way to skirt around it.I'm more interested in what ending they will canonise, surely high EMS destroy being the most popular choice would make for it being the canon one? It's the only one I ever pick due to it being clear, even after Casey Hudson damage controlled that IT isn't true, that the Indoctrination Theory is 100% valid.
>>724901116The schizo video I'm watching mentions Reaper corpses being present when Liara picks up (supposedly Shepard's) helmet pieces on the planet he died on in ME2 intro. Could be a second Lazarus project as a contingency to actually somehow make a really weird attempt to allow all 3 endings.The spoopy feminine robot could just be some unrelated AI.
>>724899143I get why James got the hate he did on release from both new and returning players but in hindsight he is actually a pretty decent character with surprising amount of depth who meshes well with the rest of the Normandy crew. Plus he is a pretty stand up guy who is always trying to keep everyone spirits up. He is like the inverse Jacob
>>724901470Is it ParagonN7's video? I watched that yesterday as I finished my trilogy replay in prep for N7 day. I think that's in the parallel world, picking up Shepard after the Collector attack and the dead reapers are because the Jardaan (protheans) return and rape everything.>>724901702Taking the time to bond with James this playthrough made me like him a lot. He's a lot better than other actor cameos, like Allers who's just there because Jessica Chobot was jerking Casey Hudson off.
>>724901702As an unfortunate pre-order baby for ME3, I really really fucking liked James first time through for the exact thing you pointed out. He's just el hombre Jacob but instead of being a depressing nigger he's a roid head. Same reason why Wrex is always a homie.
By golly, is that Slams Meatknuckle?Also, considering Bioware has absolutely no idea what they're doing, trying to ascertain what's next for the series is an exercise in madness.Anything that makes sense can be retconned. Anything much too foolish can be canon.
>>724902017Yeah, that's the one I watched. Makes sense to be honest and the Prothean/Jardaan do match up.Don't remember if it was ever explained why they left but they leave during the Andromeda Initiative's voyage so it makes sense they would come back after the Reapers go dormant again.James is a bit of a meme with the random foreign phrases but he's an absolutely agreeable fella.
>>724902383>it makes sense they would come back after the Reapers go dormant againSince I only replayed 3 just yesterday, I also remember Shepard complimenting Javik on eventually respecting the "primitives" in the citadel DLC, and he warns his people wouldn't have done so. They would have conquered humanity and forced them into servitude. Will be interesting to see what he would do if his people returned, given his growth as a character. Also, regarding high EMS destroy, given that the Catalyst tells us flat-out we will die and yet Shepard survives, I have reason to believe at the very least EDI's AI form survives too. Maybe not her body, especially since she got hit by Harbinger's beam in my game, but there's no way the AI got destroyed too. It seems the Geth survived too, going off of the art ParagonN7 shows, so yet another lie by the Catalyst.
>>724899143Reminder that female Shepard unironically raped this lad. Also, It'd be cool if the canon ending were the "BUT I REFUSE" one.
>>724902609>if the canon ending were the "BUT I REFUSE" one.it could be. Our first ME5 teaser had hooded Liara picking up the N7 tag and she had the time capsule she made for Shepard with her.
>>724902596>>724902714The fact that the kid's voice changes to the Reaper-like one when you refuse is pretty hard to ignore.I'll never not be mad about 70% of people picking male Shepard but BioWere is now insisting on female Shep as canon. Better just be promo bs. Chad Shepard based on that Swedish model with the good VA > femshep.>female Shepard unironically raped this ladWut. I think I only did a female Shepard run in ME2 and it sucked so hard. I couldn't take her seriously, just resting bitch face and completely deadpan most of the time. Renegade choices were literally being soi'd over on preddit.
>>724903113>The fact that the kid's voice changes to the Reaper-like one when you refuse is pretty hard to ignore.Also worth noting the Reaper you kill on Rannoch talks about how Harbinger speaks of you and seems to delight in killing you, only for him to leave you to do the Catalyst's bidding without protest. Very weird. The proposal of Synthesis too is the very thing you call Saren indoctrinated for in ME1. Fuck femshep. They only soiface over her because she's le badass redhead. Jennifer Hale's delivery is so flat compared to Meer's. She's not as bad as Laura Bailey, but she's not great either.
>>724903374Also TIM.
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>>724907043
Just make a game where I can shoot stuff, save the galaxy and fuck blue pussy and I'll buy
>>724899143I'm hopeful they say "Refuse" is canon and it's about the next cycle preparing extremely early with a focus on intelligence gathering with a mix of subtle intimidation and gunboat diplomacy to force the aliens in line.
>>724907248>fuck blue pussyi hated that you could only pound samara's prime milf puss in Citadel DLC
>>724907442>EA put blue milf pussy behind a paywallunforgivable
>>724907442>You have to kill her daughter to remove competition firstIsn't that like the perfect milf arc?>>724907405Probably not, the trailers show Liara so it can't be more than a few hundred years.
>Illusive Man tells you he's studied indoctrination and knows the risks>Grafts reaper tech onto himself near the climax of ME3was he a retard?
>>724899143What was his name again?
>>724907594>the trailers show LiaraLiara turned herself into a VI in that ending. Maybe she put herself on ice too
>>724907689If they have a multiverse going on with the wormholes, you probably just pick which one is your "prime timeline". Shit tons of resources would be required to actually make it.
>>724907605no but the devs are
>>724907668Angry Joe
>>724907689>Maybe she put herself on ice tooDoubt it. Asari live crazy long, Samara even jests she dated Shakespeare to Shepard in ME2. Which raises questions why an Asari was on Earth before the first-contact war, but I doubt William was going to snitch on blue pussy.
>>724907605Sorry Shepherd, you just don't have what it takes to make hard choices necessary to save humanity, not like Kai Leng. I grafted this mind controlling technology onto myself to put humanity on top of the galaxy.>Dialogue Options>Blue: Ineffectual moralfag babble>Red: Aggressive retard
>>724907936Asari don't last more than fifteen hundred years or so. Maybe if she were part Krogan.
I think I hated every "theory" I read across this thread. I also hated James and Javik. I hate the idea that anything ME3 and Andromeda used as a basis to move the franchise forward. I think the lore is raped and I hate all you fucking faggots for encouraging this shit, especially after Bioware proved 6 times now they can't write for shit.Keep it low, keep it grounded, keep it familiar and keep it easy. All this ideas you have prove that you have no idea how incapable Bioware currently are at doing anything other than basic addition of 1+1=2. And that is after months of planning. If you all died, the world would be a better place.
>>724907605>game is in a setting where guns can generate infinite bullets and there are space wizards who can just launch you into orbit with their mind>some shitposter with a weeb sword is his top agentfuck bioware and this franchise
>>724908030>>724907936Yeah the cycles are every 50k years. Krogans are the longest lived race but they kill themselves before reaching old age. 2-3k or something.
>>724899143people are fucking dreaming if they think anyone in charge thought about the ME3 endings at all before deciding whatever shitty retcon they use for the DOA final sequel will be
>>724908086The Krogan would kill itself headbutting an asteroid or something before it made it to the next cycle
James Vega did nothing wrong
>>724901702His rapport with Cortez is fun when you're not stuck listening to Cortez whining about his dead fag lover. Cortez is like some schizo that flip flops between normal cool dude and AIDS ridden genetic dead end. Still enjoy his back and forth with James tho.
>>724908207>If you dont romance Fagtez he has no dialogue until the end sequence where he dies to the reaper beam>character still screams in anguish at his demisemade me kek
>>724908058I don't even care any more. Don't mistake my "theories" as genuine fandom. I just want them to blow a few hundred million making the brightest dumpsterfire of a game I've ever seen. I hate them. I hate everything that's become of the franchise.
>>724908072ME2 was a retarded intermission, but firing major groups of writers working on the original game, then during ME2 and then firing the lead writer and redoing the ending in ME3 really sent everything in a tail spin. Unironically time/universe travel might be the only way to salvage it. Shepard is in a different universe and that's why it self-retcons itself between games.>>724901702I still can't believe how they made Jacob into such a perfect caricature.
today i will remind them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOlAPsazHs
>>724903374I liked femshep only so I could fuck Carth without it being gay
>>724901702What did Jacob even do? The only thing I remember about him was his father brain-washing a ship's entire crew to give himself a harem
>>724908267You do know that not only are EA marketers watching us, Hiro is also selling data to everyone, including EA.
>>724908401He outright recommends two different choices during the Suicide Mission that would give players the worst ending. His advice was as shit as his father's parenting.
>>724908527kek you just made me realize his father ditched his motherThat hadn't clicked to me until now
>>724908686Ditched his mother, got a harem of white women (and aliens), violently killed all the men and was a deadbeat to his son.It didn't click for me until recently the cries his questline was racist were actually true kek
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>>724908401If you're a chick and you romance him in 2 he actively cucks you in 3 and that shit is so funny I still laugh about it to this day
>>724908824kek i never saw this, context?
>>724908401He dated Miranda and dumped her when it got serious, then impregnated his ex and proposed almost immediately from what I remember.His dad ends up being on a ship that crashes on a planet with food that makes everyone dad. Captain dies so he assumes direct control, hoards food for the officers, kicks out all the dumb males and leaves the women around as a 75IQ rape harem. After 10 years they start running out of food and ammo so he turns on the distress beacon he could have turned on at any time. And also yeah, abandons Jacob's mom because he had to know he's going straight to jail for mutiny and copious amounts of rape & murder.
>>724908824Kek fuck that piece of shit
>>724908184>Literally the hottest piece of ass ever added to a bioware game>Unromanceable except a one time fling as femshep and only if you have the DLCWHAT the fuck did bioware mean by this?!
>>724901116If they were smart they'd retcon ME2 and ME3 and give an actual sequel to ME1.
>>724901702Freddie Prinze Jr. seems like a pretty cool guy so that helps.
>>724899143After the last few disasters, I have a feeling EA is going to be extremely involved in Mass Effect 4. If there is a pair of brain cells in charge, they'll be looking at the laundry list of grievances with the franchise and all of Bioware's catalog while simultaneously comparing the success of stuff like Baldur's Gate 3 and Expedition 33. I wouldn't expect it to be free from "wokeness", but they'd be retarded to piss away the opportunity to revive the franchise. Mass Effect WAS an institution and Shepard is one of the most beloved characters in modern gaming. Andromeda can be handwaved away, but if they fuck up another Shepard game, the franchise is truly dead and it WILL be the end of Bioware. I'd expect them to be non-committal to ME3 and maybe even retcon it. It's not like there aren't a dozen speculative ideas on how to do it floating around the fanbase. Time shenanigans would be easy and could even tie into the heat death lore that was dropped after the second game satisfying the nerds that cared.
>>724909468>everyone calls him gay>is the only straight character in 3Basado
>>724909719>Andrew Wilson said after Veilguard performed that future single-player titles need to hone in further on "player engagement" and "real world investment"it ain't looking good anon
>>724909719343 has gone 5 games without a success. I'm sure Bioware can manage one or two more disasters before EA finally kills them.
>>724909719Not reading this but Andromeda was actually good and anyone who says otherwise most likely never played it themselves and are just parroting what their influencer told them.
>>724909719The trailers show loads of blackholes at some point and there is a direct specification that a message was sent in 2819. There's a few things that suggest the trailers are shortly after the war so that strongly suggests at least time travel is a thing in ME4. So that's probably a given and time shenanigans is exactly what they'd need to unfuck ME3/MEA.The most worrying part is that the Geth clothing in that nightclub scene looks a little similar to the Kett so it might be that the Kett are the big threat in this one and the Geth are subservient to them rather than something cool like Jardaan being an offshoot of Protheans that reached Andromeda. Maybe it's whatever was chasing the Jardaan and is somehow related to the Kett.
>>724899143Chunk Estevez was a surprisingly kino character
>>724903374>Jennifer Hale's delivery is so flat compared to Meer's.I legitimately think people say this only to contrarian and "anti-woke" or whatever. She sounds annoyed and worn out which makes sense. Meer sounds like a dweeby suburban dad who drives his kids around Mississauga in a station wagon. Fucking John Patterson sounding nigga.
>>724909719>expecting EA to do ANYTHING goodHave you been in a coma for the past twenty years or so?
>>724899143I dont give a fuck. Everyone here knows its going to be shit. Bioware is shit. None of the people that made ME good are around.
>>724910221>anti-wokeI'm not one of those perpetual victims screaming about pronouns like HeelvsBabyface, I just find she sounds bored in a lot of her delivery, or she over-acts when the line is something tame. Meer is more casual, sure, but it suits most people's Shep.
>>724909719>After the last few disasters, I have a feeling EA is going to be extremely involved in Mass Effect 4The last time they did this, they took something unique and cool and made it gears of war shit while character assassinating me1 characters. Fuck them.
>>724908282>then firing the lead writer and redoing the ending in ME3The original plan for the ending was just as stupid as what we got and would have left everyone equally unsatisfied since the end result of both was still the same (the mass effect tech is lost and galactic civilization is fucked because of it).
>>724899143IT theory is the only way.MGSV style coma wake up sequence. If that doesn't happen, I would go Kelvin time line, yeah. Shepard and crew from like ME1 gets ported to the Andromeda timeline but in the milky way
>>724909875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1KpHg1rco0Andromeda's story was bad. Shooting and movement was ok but there were a lot of things wrong with it. Now mostly fixed but didn't they literally admit how bad the technical side was with making "my face was tired" an actual line in the game?
>>724910429>making "my face was tired" an actual line in the gameI shit you not watch ParagonN7's theory video about the Benefactor, she gaslights herself into thinking that line was intentional because Addison has a fake face.
>>724909847Two things. First, Wilson answers to the board whether he's chairman or not. Second, and in direct relation to that point, a Saudi prince is now the controlling interest. He's a Millennial and a gamer who very likely is a fan of the franchise. I doubt Wilson or any of the other retards that let EA flounder over the last two decades get their retarded ways anymore.>>724909864Bioware's last actual success was Mass Effect 3 and that was only a sales success. It's been 13 years and people still viscerally hate that game. There's literally not a more brutal downfall in gaming history.
>>724910576Jedi games were forced by some EA exec to have a male protagonist, he probably also forced Cal to be white, because fuck it why not. On top of that the game decanonizes the lilly white waifu being a lesbian in some book. If Poo ShEAsty links up with Saudim Gottem we might finally need it rather than keep it.
>>724910628I cucked her with Jack in ME2+3 and called her bitch ass out when she was jealous despite leaving me on Horizon.
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>>724910851sorry space racist but i like damaged girls
>>724910628Awful. Absolutely fucking awful. ME3 committed a lot of crimes but the hideous way they raped Ashley was one of the worst.
>>724909719SaudEArabia is going to make ME4 entirely out of AI. It's going to be worse than Andromeda.
>>724910992Virmire survivor was never interesting either way, did ME3 just make her uglier and less racist?
Kelly Chambers is the only woman for me.
>>724911139>admits to spying on you for TIM in 3 and your only way to reciprocate feelings is to help her go into hidingshe was so wasted in 3.
>>724911272She should have helped me exterminate the space gypsies and nuke Palavan
>>724911041I doubt it. Despite the doom and gloom, there are two realities that people are ignoring. The first is that Video Games are a tremendous money maker and investment into them has paid dividends. The second is that Saudis love money nearly as much as Jews. The big difference is that Saudis also love to blow massive stacks of dosh.Again, my estimation is that Salman is doing this out of a genuine love of games. The guy has put his money where his mouth is and I'm willing to give him a chance. I trust Saudis more than the Chinese and a HELL of a lot more than Silicon Valley retards.
>>724910337He doesn't sound casual, he sounds like a dork. His voice is flat and nasally with a thick Canadian accent. He sounds like a fucking accountant, not a military guy. FemShep would have probably been better off voiced by someone like Courtenay Taylor but Hale is still leagues better than Meer by virtue of still trying to sound somewhat tough and authoritative. Meer's Shepard sounds like the kind of dork who gets shoved into space lockers by Brick Dominguez.
Batarians?
>>724908401but the PRIIIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEE
>>724911531The problem with Hale though is exactly what you said: sounding tough and authoritative. Her delivery is handled with the weight of a limp Salarian cock. She never sounds tough, she sounds like a 14 year old girl telling you not to make her unleash the darkness within.
>>724911380>Again, my estimation is that Salman is doing this out of a genuine love of games.He bought SNK because he's an SNK fanboy and look how well that's worked out for them. You had two Saudi bitch boys in Ronaldo and some literal who DJ put into Fatal Fury and the game was used to advertise some boxing event the Saudis were doing and the game fucking flopped.
>>724910808>missing out on sadfag incel-shep jerking off to ashley's picture with his own tears on the way to the suicide mission
>>724910992Both kaiden and ashley got character raped bad in ME2 with that horizon scene. Jumping from "you're a god" to "I HATE YOU CERBERUS SUCKS YOU BIG MEANIE" in one sentence only to get cucked out of giving a proper explanation by the dialogue wheel was a Top 5 worst ME2 moment.
>>724911768Yeah but I get CrazyJack pussy and then makeup sex in ME3 because she missed me and I saved her from Cerberus. Who wins now?
>>724911770Everyone's character got raped by ME2, they may as well have rebooted with a new cast and cew
What's going on now? Has there been in new leak or teaser? With EA being beholden to Saudi royalty (political ethics aside) instead of shareholders should I dig down and find that last bit of hope I have stashed away?
>>724911735It'll dethrone SF6 any day now.
>>724912059N7 day is on the 7th, Legendary Edition is on sale on steam and many anons are hot off their trilogy replay prepping for either salvation or disappointment.We also had a bunch of ME creators on YT decipher all the teases and now we know ME5 involves time travel, two universes and Shepard's return.
>>724912136>involves time travel, two universes and Shepard's return.
Garrus is hot and mshep should've had gay alien romances
>>724912136They need to just ditch Shep at this point. It's getting worse than the Master Chief at this point
>>724912136But Mass Effect 4's teaser was in 2023. Unless Andromeda's considered ME4 or I'm somehow not in the nightmare dimension anymore, WTF are these people talking about. Are these teases being posted on twitter or reddit like it's an ARG?
>caringWhy? ME3 was extremely lacklustre. Andromeda was outright shit. There is zero reason to be excited for Mass Effect 4, particularly when it's a sequel without the threat of the Reapers. It would have made much more sense to make standalone prequel games set during important historical eras such as the Rachni Wars or Krogan Rebellions.
>>724912059OP here, I forgot what thread I was in but it either mentioned ME or made me think of it and I decided to go look up some schizo deep lore. Went from IT to that foid talking about the multiverse timetravelling and made the thread halfway through the video.Thanks to whatever anon eventually bumped, best thread I've been in for a while and we even got some Vega memeing. Usually it's just the worst most hostile coomer battles.
>>724912248They tried with Andromeda, but it flopped and everybody made fun of it for being dogshit.
>>724912317>Are these teases being posted on twitter or reddit like it's an ARGYes and on Bioware's website. Someone decoded the garbled audio transmission from last year and it talks about something invading.
>>724912248Didn't they already try that with Andromeda?
>>724908824lmao
>>724912317https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzAh9SUgWWEHere's the schizofoid breakdown.
Will the Citadel return?
>>724912549It got destroyed in 2 of the 3 main endings, so I doubt it. I have a feeling Earth will be the new melting pot hubworld since it's full of dead reaper tech and Hackett made it sound like it was going to be a golden age for Earth once rebuilt.
>>724911735Apples and oranges. I'm not discounting those fuck ups, but they're the FGC. No one gives a fuck about them except for shitskins. Granted, the EA buyout is probably heavily influenced by their monopoly on sports games, but there is also prestige to the brand despite decades of mismanagement. Ea has a shitload of big names in their vault ripe for revival and the Dead Space remake is proof that it can pay off to bring them back. The CURRENT corporate leadership may be too retarded to truly understand that, but Salman is an actually shrewd leader that seems to want a future for Saudi Arabia outside of oil dependance. There is literally no better path to secure indefinite wealth, opulence, and success for himself and his nation than usurping the stagnant and creatively bankrupt entertainment industry that is so imminently dominated by video games. The fact that he went after EA of all corporations, I would argue, lends credence to this theory because it arguably has the best potential for redemption at the lowest cost. If the company would just focus on producing solid remakes or continuations of beloved franchises with decent enough quality, the company could rehabilitate itself within a decade.Fucking Konami of all businesses is doing the same right now. Delta, f, and Silent Hill 2 Remake have turned a lot of negative opinions on the company around. It isn't rocket science, it's just basic supply and demand. EA has a massive supply of IPs. There is an enormous demand for those IPs to return to their former glory. FIFA can finance that with ease and, soon, the board will be comprised of rich ass Saudis that can dismiss the penny pinching faggotry of the outgroup.
>>724899143Shepard can live after the end of me3 and the quarians can rebuild the gethNot sure about the andromeda shit cause i didnt played it
>>724899143I guarantee you're thinking of this harder than the writers did
>>724911139For me it was Gabriella and being unable to cuck that kilt-wearing fag is one off the game's biggest sins.
>>724912823>and the quarians can rebuild the gethThe Catalyst claimed Shepard would die in Destroy, yet he lives in high EMS destroy. It's plausible to say the other synthetics wouldn't die at all and it was just trying to discourage him. They never explain how EDI would die entirely, too. Sure her body might malfunction, but she establishes early on in ME3 her body and her AI form can operate independently, so it's possible her AI survives the space magic.
>>724912610how do retards like you exist
>>724913007seething Batarian hates Earth being the new dominant hub. Sad!
>>724912347If we could have played as Alec and spent the game tard-wrangling our FAS-babies instead it would have been game of the year.
I just need to play as Shep again so I can build that house on Rannoch and finally get some motherfucking closure. That's all.
>>724913132>spaceman spacemarine dies because he can't breathe air in his spacesuit because there's no backup breathing aparatusGod damn. In retrospect, that alone was enough to foreshadow it's going to be downhill from here on out.>>724913284>Shepard closure anon has showed up.I'm happy you'll finally get your closure, anon.
>>724912392>something invadingIt's gonna be reapers but BIGGER with silly hats
>create a red Shepard>be renegade with control ending>Name him Reaper ShepardKino
Haven't seen any new teasers about the game since that pic which showed Geth and Angara at a bar, what happened since that?
>>724913480Oh no, the Kett converted a reaper!!!
>>724913284I hope the Volus do a foreclosure on it.
Are my beloved Elcor confirmed in the game yet?
How would you feel about an original trilogy remake, anons? With the same key people involvedI hate remakes on principle but I'd make an exception for ME, especially considering the saudis would likely reign in the modern day faggotry
>>724914043Glumly disappointed, no they are not.
>>724910429>Literally can't even start a conversation without first linking me a video of his influencer arguing for himThanks for proving me right at least, now fuck off nigglet and go read a book.
>>724913992>volus are literally just jews>Bioware got away with it while George Lucas was lambastedhow
>>724914143They already have LE. I'd rather they reboot Andromeda or try a new story altogether.
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>>724910628>>724910851more Ashley
>>724914241>volus specialize in bombing unprotected targetskekky
>>724901702I think everyone warmed up to Big Mclargehueg pretty quickly. His only real flaw was being the replacement on your squad for a krogan.
>>724913480>>724913819First one was kinda botched. But yeah there's still galactic level threats.>>724914213The video was some random ME2 mission ranking done by AI voices of presidents, nothing to do with Andromeda. And it was bad, the stakes were not there and it introduces 4 races/entities. Main villains, Temu Twileks, the race that left the cluster and whatever was trying to genocide them. Go ahead and tell me what's good about this.>>724914143Remake 2 & 3, but do proper lighting for 1 and leave it as is otherwise.
>>724914387No. More Saren.
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>>724914143>how do you feel about remakes
>>724914614>ut yeah there's still galactic level threats.AAAA THE KETT CONVERTED THE CATALYSTIT'S A SUPER REAPER FLEET!!!WE NEED TO GET EVERYONE IN ONE SPOT TO FIGHT THEM
>>724914638>it's a saren does cool things, goes strange places and kills people prequelYou have no idea how much I want that glowie-kinio but I know they'd fuck it up.
>>724914682Dammit I forgot the image.
>>724914143the ip is deadyou squandered any good will you had towards you by focusing on identity politics in a game universe that would have been gotten over it a million years in it's past
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>>724914387good posture
>>724913819The kett looked so goofy and non-threatening that I hope they are the next big villain so the game flops. Seriously they looked like rhesus monkeys covered in cat turds and I cannot fathom how anyone approved these designs with a straight face.
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Jokes aside, do you think they'll actually bring Shepard back?Also how the fuck do you even continue the timeline when ME3 endings result in completely different outcomes for the entire galaxy? I guess they could just choose one ending and continue from it, but that would piss a lot of people off because their playthroughs would be invalidated.
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>>724916279Do I think Bioware are big enough retards and hacks to bring back Shepard for memberberries? Yes, absolutely. I hope they don't though and that we get a new crew to focus on.
>>724916279>Jokes aside, do you think they'll actually bring Shepard back?Yes, undoubtedly.
>>724916279Jennifer Hale has been teasing something ME-related and all the lorefags on YT have deciphered a bunch of references to a 'new' Shepard in ME5. So yes. I 100% believe EA saw the hate for Andromeda and believed it was due to no Shepard and not the awful animations, dialogue, shitty villain and poor performance.
>>724916962Are you ready forSHEPARD, JR
no john,you are the reapersand tehn john was a raper
>>724917093
>>724899143the precursors in andromeda are obviously protheans
>>724917274You get to choose the parent!
>>724917294that's already been leaked anon
>promise Jack in convo at end of ME3 that I'm coming home>She's still waiting in the extended cut post-creditsit hurts bros, i let her down...
>>724917331big question is how does Javik respond to that.Wouldn't he be the emperor?That'd be my pick for a trilogy villain. Restored Prothean empire using Collectors as thralls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FobS3w7QX-Y
>>724917093>cerberus created a second clone of shepard>but this one was the opposite sex of whichever you picked>they banged (ok?) off screen and their clone baby is the protagonist of ME4
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
>>724918069>get to ME3>reaper on rannoch says Harbinger is still talking about you>he tries to kill you at the end of the game then just leaveswhat was Harbinger's problem
Imagine the son (or daughter) of Shepard as a human or non-human depending on who you romanced in the original trilogy.
>>724918230Bro, I romanced Tali...
>>724918225>what was Harbinger's problemJust wants to kill Shepard out of spite for fucking up their plans at the end of 1.
>>724918225Harbinger thought having to personally kill a tiny human was beneath him so he sent his best agent Marauder Shields to finish the job. But alas it was not enough.
>>724918276That's hot bro
>>724920478The point is that humans can't have kids with quarians
>>724919391He was the hero we needed, we just didn't realize until it was too late.
Did the Pinnacle Station matter?
>>724899143Its never going to release
>>724923527>>724922985Nice
>>724901702Not really. James is just the stand in for new players who don't know the history of anything in the lore.
>>724922985It'd be better without the reaper.
>>724924845all of these posters have this weird injection of the game's plot into them
>>724899143No point speculating because it will never come out
>>724909002It's from a side mission in ME1 where a crazy biotic woman kills all her crewmates after finding out they were going to pull the plug on her brain-dead boyfriend.
>>724916279>Jokes aside, do you think they'll actually bring Shepard back?If I were a Bioware employee, and I wanted the next game to sell as best as possible, so that I might have a job the day after release, I would bust Mike Gamble's balls every day to make Shepard the protagonist.>Also how the fuck do you even continue the timelineCYOA. You chose Synthesis/Control/Refuse? Congratulations, you finished Mass Effect. You chose Destroy? More shit happens.
>>724916962>a 'new' ShepardCompletely fucking missing the point, if the do that. Like they gotta be fucking morons.
>liara confirmed>n7 teasing >geth and angara in one of the imagesi don't get it, what the fuck are they gonna do, makes no sense
>>724917331Where?
>>724927971Everyone assumes timewarp wormhole.It's like Mass Effect wasn't fucked enough already, let's thrown in time travel and alternate timelines while we're at it.
>>724928026>timewarpthey can't be that dumbor can they?
>>724907043Hufflepuff
>>724928467That's what most people are theorizing. I don't know if they are right, but you can't have the Milky Way look like it did in 2186, when you're in 2819. You're not gonna have the N7 program persist for 600+ years, and even the Mass Effect will be irrelevant in universe by then.
>>724910628No, but really, look at this cocky Latina coming to destroy your fragile ego with a look. I love this image so much.
>>724928812>You're not gonna have the N7 program persist for 600+ yearsWhy not? There are centuries old institutions still around today.
They should just remake Andromeda with a non retarded team that includes a totally new story, and many new actual alien species instead of a retarded frog man race.
The best part of Andromeda was romanceable tomboy female Garrus with a cute sister who live together in your ship. I still have no idea how that managed to survive in the shitheap that was Andromeda.
Please no more shitty demaster screenshots, the lighting is ass
>>724907043>>724907101>aryan blonde shep won and this made BioWare fans absolutely sperg out so they made her a redhead
>>724931709How many training programs from 600 years ago do you use today? And how many of those 600 year old institutions server as relevant a role today, as they did 600 years ago? Or aren't there for cosmetic reasons more than anything.
>>724934053space freemasons, there
>>724934137Were there any in Mass Effect?
>>724910628i couldnt get past how obnoxious she was in the first game. literally everytime anyone said anything, particularly in the cutscenes when everyone is gathered in the ""briefing rom" or whatever you want to call it, she had to open her mouth and say some stupid shit
Do you REALLY think skibidi FOMO rizzlers who play warzone while scrolling tik tok and drinking lead will even bother to play any new Mass Effect, let alone the old ah UNC previous games??GTA6 will have no longevity because of this, the broccoli heads can`t be bothered to play any single player for more than 3 days
>>724910628Ashley's a twat desu.
>>724910628>We Miranda at home
>>724901702He is one of the best Bioware's human male fighter companions. And definitely the best by far in Mass Effect.His only problem is that he appears out of nowhere in the beginning of ME3, and the game immediately treats him as one of your most trusted men because Shepard (not you) knew him for a few months.
Why is Sovereign is the harbinger of the reapers, while Harbinger is the sovereign of the reapers?
>>724935394You'd think leviathan was the sovereign because he's the oldest
>>724935394Sovereign was the last true gigachad kino reaper.Harbinger:>fails to kill you>fails to kill you again and abandons Collectors when he doesn't get his way>Has you knocked out for two days on a space station and still doesn't kill you>talks shit to Rannoch-Reaper about you>finally faces you at the end of ME3 and hits you with a laser>you survive anyway and nuke his entire specieshe was a letdown.
Isn't it going to be some live service slop? The necessity of being a service game seems to have been EA's takeaway as to why DA4 failed.
>>724917885Honestly I'm just starting to think that this would come out better than randomly introducing time skipping and teleporter beams into the series. It just makes it into a completely different feeling sci-fi. If only they didn't botch Andromeda so hard we couldn't have a soft reboot of back-colonising the Milky Way.
>>724938328No! Are you serious? Who wants to play as genderbent Shepard's baby?
REMINDER: ME4 started development at the height of the time travel in media craze.>set a decade or 2 after the events of ME3>invasion took more a toll than initially believed>races are fighting for resources>citadel is under the control of various racial supremacist gangs>game will have you controlling Liara in the present and Shepard in the past>you're sending back artifacts and information back to the past>changes to history include:>Crucible project starts super fucking early>Saren is no longer indoctrinated>making both Kaiden and Ashley survive Virmire (Saren saves them)>having Shepard survive the Normandy destruction at the start of ME2>Batarians are unfortunately all evacuated before the planets destruction in the Arrival DLC>Geth and Quarians set aside their differences earlier than usualSource: Unironically revealed to me in a dream.
>>724939887Based, will pirate
>>724939887It doesn't matter. The game got rebooted after Bioware got restructured this past May. They're going back to prototyping and story boarding from square one.
>>724939973What sort of restructuring?
>>724940961Basically, what the Bloomberg article said. Let me try and find it.
>>724943128https://archive.is/kyx9KFollowing the layoffs and staff reassignments at BioWare earlier in the year, a small team of a few dozen employees is now working on the next Mass Effect. After three high-profile failures in a row, questions linger about EA’s commitment to the studio. In May, the company relabeled its Edmonton headquarters from a BioWare office to a hub for all EA staff in the area.
>>724901702People just find it funny he looks like a fusion of Marcus Fenix and Dominic Santiago, during a time when everyone with a brain was complaining that ME was turning into a glorified Gears of War clone, abandoning worldbuilding and roleplaying elements for action. I guess its too late now, Biowares dead and EA is owned by sandniggers.
>>724943427I somehow feel like the sandniggers are the least of Bioware's problems.
>>724899143it's in development hell. think about how long ago they teased it. it's cooked.>>724939973thanks for confirming. I hadn't heard about this but I knew something like this would happen.
>>724943209>it did not resonate with a big enough audience>literal SBI notes left in the release version of a character description (I assume maliciously, thank you for your sacrifice)The chutzpah on these game devs.>For decades there’d been tension between the two well-established camps, known for their starkly divergent ways of doing things.>Dragon Age crew was like a pirate ship, meandering and sometimes traveling off course but eventually reaching the port>In contrast, the Mass Effect group was called the USS Enterprise, after the Star Trek ship, because commands were issued straight down from the top and executed zealously>As the Mass Effect directors took control, they scoffed that the Dragon Age squad had been doing a shoddy job and began excluding their leaders from pivotal meetings, according to people familiar with the internal friction. Over time, the Mass Effect team went on to overhaul parts of the game and design a number of additional scenes, including a rich, emotional finale that players loved.Considering the Dragon Age team was the cruft that has been cut off most likely, with the article mentioning the writers quitting, it doesn't look that bad. Modern gaming outsources a lot of art work to contractors (yeah I know, but still) so a few dozen can include writing (they have the lore built up on previous games) and some technical people to iterate on gameplay. If they can shit out ME3 in under 2 years, they can definitely do a technically sound product in 3-5 if they get good technical people working on it and the story hashed out over time. Probably going to be shit, but there's hope.
>>724943665>>thanks for confirmingMark Darrah made the confirming in his youtube channel, a few months back.
>>724908207Come out of the closet
>>724944392>If they can shit out ME3 in under 2 years, they can definitely do a technically sound product in 3-5 if they get good technical people working on it and the story hashed out over time.You know they're just gonna get some incompetent woke DEI hires to do it. Why would they make anything good, when they can make activism, get paid, and let Bioware shut down to take the fall?
>>724939887>Saren as a squadmateim soifacing unironically
>>724944412>made the confirmingOk after you learn English, can you source me up, Scotty?Also kek:>To be frank the Mass Effect team is going to be able to point to The Veilguard and say 'we should steer away from some of these things, because look what happened'," he says. "I would honestly encourage that team to scapegoat Veilgard as much as they need to to get what they need from the organization.>>724944515Hope for the best, prepare for the worst or something. Either I'll get the joy of playing a good ME game again or I'll invest in popcorn shares and have me a time looking at the meltdown. You just know the shilling won't stop after release like with Stolkor 2 or Bloodlines 2.
>>724944631>>Ok after you learn English, can you source me up, Scotty?I mean that I am not the one making any confirmations, Mark Darrah did that. Actually, it was in his interview with MrMatty, if you can stomach it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pd9OG3HmN0Unfortunately, I went through it once, and I won't be doing it again, so no timestamp this time.
>>724944515>starts screeching about muh woke dei out of nowhereSeek help you obsessed freak
>>724944631>we should steer away from some of these thingsthank god, no non binary Krogans
>>724944631>Hope for the bestYeah, I'm just gonna skip that part.I mean, I wish I could bring myself to hope, but I just can't. And this Friday, on N7 Day, I wish I could say I expect something, but everyone keeps telling me to expect nothing. Not as bad as 2024, due to Veilguard, but definitely less than anything we got from 2020 and on. And it's a shame because if Bioware wanted to shed some of that Veilguard stench, they needed to come out hard this N7 Day. Like I don't expect them at SGF, or Gamescom or GDC, but show something on N7 Day. Maybe they have something that will turn heads, in spite of not making a big showcase or anything, but time is running out so fast, it's making stage 4 cancer look like a Marathon.
>>724944895What do you have against black people, anon? don't they get a turn at Mass Effect? why are you being racist? Why should Bioware hand Mass Effect over to them? What a fucking racist, nazi, bigot you are.
>N7 day>Illusive Man voice over>This starts playing>Instead of Collectors killing Shepard it's the Jardaan wiping everyone out and Liara finding his body to bring back to her universe>me5 is an inverse of ME2 where long-dead characters are alive and helping ShepardAU on a whole new suicide mission to stop a threat that would make Harbinger kneelholy fucking ludohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2iC1aCPbKA
>>724945245>me5 is an inverse of ME2 where long-dead characters are alive and helping ShepardAUI would rather the next ME was an adaptation of Morning Glory Milking Farm than this. This is just beyond jump the shark territory.For 15 years they insisted on these endings. I am over it. If Bioware were that confident in them, they should continue the franchise after them. If they can.
>>724945410They've never been confident in the endings, anon. Prior to release, they all kept replying to people theorising Shepard is indoctrinated in jest. As soon as the game drops and everyone hated the ending, they denied IT and then extended cut released and played the three stale endings even safer. Brainlets couldn't see the truth in front of them: Saren wanted synthesis and was indoctrinated, TIM wanted control and was indoctrinated, Anderson wanted Destroy and wasn't. All through ME3 Shepard has those dreams about the same kid the Catalyst takes on the appearance of, and what precedes them but tree roots in the shapes of tendrils, just like the ones in the edge of your screen when Kai Leng and TIM both try to control you. Their only salvation from their own destruction is to render none of them true.
>>724945653Regardless of everything, they touted the line for 13 years now. They were upset we didn't like the endings, because the EC took the place of a different DLC. They were upset they had to do the Citadel DLC, because they had different plans in mind for that DLC. They hated everything we said about ME3, and failed dramatically at addressing it in any substantial way. But they insisted on it, in the end. BTW, Citadel DLC was their best selling DLC ever. Tresspasser only surpassed it, in terms of copies, because people were getting it for free with the GOTY edition of DA:I.The point stands; the endings are what they have publicly stated they wanted them to be for 13 years now, and that hasn't changed, nor have the endings changed.>>Their only salvation from their own destruction is to render none of them true.Unfortunately, they can't do that. EA won't let them do that, and if they actually do that, everyone will either rage or laugh at them, after 13 years so far of championing them for no goddamn reason. It'd be the right thing to do, but they are just not doing it.
>>724914143No interest. Mass Effect was basically smoke and mirrors and I only got invested in the first place because I thought they'd do a better job than they did. A remake with 2025 AAA assets would just make the problems even worse.
>>724912549Yes, zero doubt. It's a visually distinct element of the IP. They will bring back all of that garbage no matter how it fits with the ending of 3.
>>724946632I mean, they tried to do it with the Nexus in ME:A, but the Nexus is no Citadel, and it just goes to prove that, if they need a hub, there is just no substitute for it.
>>724946558>A remake with 2025 AAA assets would just make the problems even worse.I mean, even that, what is the expectation? 4 years for each new game, to maybe not fuck up a potential new ending that we may or may not get in 2037? It's just not viable. Either it moves forward from ME3, or it's even more over than it already has been since 2012.
>>724910106Nothing in any trailer to date had any thought put into it and they'll throw any implications in the trash instantly if someone in the entire fucking company puts forward any idea they'll take responsibility for. Don't worry about that shit.
>>724939887>>Batarians are unfortunately all evacuated before the planets destruction in the Arrival DLCImplying Shepard wouldn't blow up the relay for the love of the game.
>>724947174
I really liked mass effect 2. The story wasn't great, there basically isn't one, but the gameplay, environments and characters were great. They blew it hard with 3 though. Andromeda was truly awful.
are the books any good?
>>724910576>Saudi prince is now the controlling interest. He's a Millennial and a gamerwhat shit rumors are this?yeah sure saudi want to good of the gaming not making money of FIFA gambling. holy shit
>>724948554I read Ascension years ago and liked it a lot.
>>724899143What's his name again?
>>724947228Official stances on each species/race in the series?
>>724931962Are they not aware that Redheaded women are even more rare and as such higher value, more representative of the beauty of Whites?
Retcon the third game; it was all in shepards indoctrinated head.
>>724908401The guy has anti-charisma and is generally unlikeable. He is extremely generic, and very bad at his job, spews out shit advice constantly throughout the game especially when you recruit someone and Jacob stats yapping about shit he was never asked to be told, despite being an underling. He is forced into every cutscene yet somehow is very unimportant. If you romance him as femshep he just straight up cucks you in ME3. For reference, Thane only has a few months to live yet still stays loyal to Femshep despite being locked up in prison. And honestly his entire side quest is absurdly stupid, even for in universe standards, its pretty funny how his dad could have called the distress beacon at anytime. Also its a retarded quest, because there is 0 reason for Shepard to actually ever stop and check whats happening out there, realistically Jacob should hire a merc squad and check it out with them, or send an Alliance ship or something.
>>724899143Given the ending of 3, why do anons here even want a new ME? How could you continue the story given the multitude of endings?I'd rather have them create a new space oriented IP
>>724949624>Pick destroyDone.>>I'd rather have them create a new space oriented IPThat doesn't circumvent the problem of being developed by Bioware.
>>724914468Well they did give him the Krogan fist bump animation
>>724949452>Jacob should hire a merc squad and check it out with themkek, he'd somehow end up giving his father an Asari harem if he sent Eclipse
>>724948816'ate asari whores and batarians, luv' everyone else
>>724914790But anon, how could people relate to playing an alien? Without the human perspective it won't sell.
>>724951928You know how if you don't do loyalty missions or dlc, they're completed by unnamed marine platoons and it usually leads to companion deaths in 3? Jacob can't die in 3.
>>724899143imagine the worst combination of attempted fan service (bringing back as much as possible from the earlier games, including Shepard) mixed with rejected marvel plots, retcons (partly because the troons on charge don't like something and partly unintentional because they don't know the material) and writing that belongs on a tumblr account circa 2013 and you'll be pretty close
>>724952968>no Elcor protag punching liggers through walls and ripping biggers in halfDespondent wailing: Brothers, I do not think I can take much more of this.
>>724899143What the fuck did I just read.>are they going to do time travelNo, it's going to be distant future, the amount of time it would take to travel to Andromeda and set up mass effect relays. That's why there's initiative branding on them in the released concepts.>fake canon that Shepard and Ryder were femalewut>to explain geth survivingIt was a reaper ruse to trick you into not picking (canon) Destroy>Andromeda race coming to Milky WaySee first point.
I have seen the following in a dream. This will be timelines where Reapers/Kett succeeded invading a main one where neither did. This will end with a hard reset to Mass Effect 1 so that 2 and 3 can be remade.
>>724954330>no biotic god Volus shenanigansHow will lesser creatures fear me?
>>724949624I'd rather the game industry do a lot of shit, but there's what's actually gonna happen
>>724956141every mass effect general meme people are still puttering along with after 12 years is fucking awful.
>>724956587Cry about it.
Should we be excited, ME bros?
>>724956651nta, but what he's right. It was shit then, and it's shit now. The franchise and the studio are operating on borrowed time, and it is draining fast. Meanwhile Bioware has nothing to show for, N7 Day is 3 days away and they have nothing to show for, nothing that can drum up interest and make headlines, and nothing to justify their existence or the prolonged development time.>>724956942No. Maybe if you want to fuck the bear.
>>724909719>Shepard is one of the most beloved characters in modern gaming.Right... which is why Bioware wants to make "him" a "her" in the official canon.
>>724956942Worst case I get a new trash fire to discuss. Should be nice.
>>724956942I read the first book, Archimedes Engine, was really good. Actually read, actual book, too, no audiobook/pdf nonsense. Somewhat optimistic, but I can't think of a better way to accrue disinterest than releasing a dozen shorts a week that all have the same chopped up single trailer in them. Had to unsub on YT because they just wouldn't stop.
>>724956942Not a real big callisto protocol fan
>>724899143God this IP sucks
>>724957353Are there any cool alien species?
>>724957981There aren't real aliens, but genetically altered ex-humans that are so different from what we are they may as well be. Like the real extent of what a human could be modified into over the course of millenia. If you could those as species, there are many and they are varied. As for actual non-humans, there are also uplifted animals like ravens, wolves, bears, pigs, etc. that you can talk to and probably recruit.
>>724956651Biotic god meme is posted by faggots?
>>724958235>there aren't real aliensFucking dropped
>>724958272>complaining about faggots>in a Mass Effect threadbruh
