name an RTS that is not AOE, AOM, warcraft, starcraft or command & conquer
age of empires 2
homeworld deserts of kharak
KKNDTotal AnnihilationDune 2000Grey Goo
HomeworldTotal Annihilation
Stronghold OG, playn it right friken now this snake guy is gonna GET IT
>>724905941Act of WarAct of War High TreasonGround Control 2
>>724905941Supreme CommanderSupreme Commander: Forged Alliance
Rise of NationsDawn of War
battle realmspopulous 3total annihilation kingdoms
>>724905941HomeworldTotal AnnihilationSins of a Solar EmpireWarhammer 40k: Dawn of WarTempest RisingTooth and TailStar Wars: Empire at WatImpossible CreaturesIron HarvestHalo WarsSea SaltUniverse at War: Earth AssaultLord of the Rings: Battle for Middle EarthMech Commander
>>724906089Black and WhiteMajesty
>>724906153Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance Forever
>>724905941
>>724905941starcraft 2
>>724905941Empire Earth seriesHalo Wars 1 & 2Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds
AI War 1 and 2
>>724905941I'll shamelessly consider Dungeon Keeper-series as an RTS.In that vein I'll also shill War for the Overworld as the spiritual Dungeon Keeper 3.
>>724906221I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in right near the start of the thread.Was this game really not that popular?
This seems like as good an opportunity to ask as any, I bought these in a bundle over a decade ago but does the Anniversary Edition contain the expansions or am I supposed to install them separately? The store page implies it contains them
World in ConflictCompany of HeroesMen of WarWargame Red Dragon
>>724905941Original war. Fantastic hidden gem RTS
Rise of Nations goes dummy
the greatest of all time
>>724905941Z
>>724906193Rise of LegendsThe Settlers seriesCultures 2
>>724905941BlitzkriegCommandos
>>724905941spellforce
>>724906345it got several sequels but AoE was just plain better.
>>724905941>Primitive WarsI remember this gameCheck picrel.
>>724905941Dawn of War.
sins of a solar empire: rebellion
>>724905941dawn of warthat flash game where you spam units in lines, think it was called warlordsthat flash game where you play as either romans, chinese or some third race i can't remember and have to take over circles of the other teamsthat extremely jank starcraft clone made in the early 2000s that became abandonware
Command and Conquer Generals and LOTR Battle for Middle Earth 2 were both fun
Fate of the Dragon
Perimeter
>>724905941Sins of a Solar Empire is my GOAT
>>724905941Empire Earth 2
Battle for Middle Earth 1, 2 and the expansion.
>>724906754Dude this looks fuckin sick
>>724906490close follow-up
>>724906345IDK, I always felt it was never that popular, but it did get a couple sequelsThe AI cheating like crazy doesnt help it at all I feel
>>724906830I played this in 2001. It was developed by some Taiwanese studio. In the game you have two maps - local and global. You send the troops to the global map to enter "strongholds" either occupied by the AI or neutral. You conquer them so you have many local maps where you get to have the gates and the walls preventing the enemy from entering until they are breached. There's also cool stuff like research and rituals in the temple that give you all sorts of boons.
>>724906856raced you. see >>724906754
>>724905941alchemist. did anyone play this?
>>724906937Yeah im thinkin im gonna try this, reviews from the time seem to like it too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg2WsV-i6M
>>724907158another thing that I might misremember is that there were seasons. But maybe I'm confusing it with something else. I remember that you had to switch from farming millet or rice or something to pigs. But again, I might confuse it with something else.
KnightShiftArmies of ExigoWarlords BattlecryAmerican ConquestTzar
ai war
Real War + Real War: Rogue States expansion pack
Age of Darkness final stand was pretty cool
>>724905941>Completely disappears, never to be seen again
>>724905941Seventh Legion
>>724906372AE has them all
Kohan
>>724907162I ordered this game off Amazon back in I think 2002. fun game
One of the greatest RTS games, you cant tell me otherwise
>>724909217I really enjoyed it more than the AoE
>>724905941Original War
>>724909217pretty fun AoE clone
>>724906490kino
>>724905941Ground Control, Homeworld.
>>724906221WEEERLL UNDERLL ATTACK
>>724905941Godsworn
>>724906221>my name is methos
>>724905941Pikmin
Homeworld: CataclysmSuperior to the original mechanically, your tone and narrative preference will dictate which you prefer.
Dark Reign.One of these days I'll bother to check out its sequel.
>>724906193>Black and WhiteBraindead game but I loved it so much.
>>724905941STAR WARS™ Galactic Battlegrounds Saga
>>724905941starship troopers: terran commandsteel division 2warnomindustrycompany of heroes 2dawn of warai war
>>724905941ParaworldDragonshardLord of the Rings: War of the RingAct of War Act of AggressionWorld in Conflict
>>724905941Herzog Zwei
>>724905941Dark Reign 2
>>724905941BAR
Sacrifice
>>724905941Rise of NationsUnironically the best RTS of all time
>>724907664Shitty IP, movie slop and millenials killed it.
outpost 2 divided destiny, a colony sim rts from ancient times
>>724911616MY NIGGA
>>7249059410 a.d.
empire earth
>>724906636Fuck I liked this shitty game. Had a boxed copy. I remember it had a first person spinoff where you could jack people's mechs too.
>>724912052In my humble stupid opinion rise of legends was better because I could play steampunk italian robots versus aztec aliens.
>>724905941Battle for Middle Earth
>>724905941War Wind
ParaWorld my beloved...
>>724909217it needs a DE edition
>6 campaigns, can be played as one of two leaders each>roguelike mode at the end>first DND advanced game on pc>had tits, and beautiful spriteworkOne of my favourites as a kid.
>>724906102Peak vidya
>>724905941Rise of NationsImpossible CreaturesRise of LegendsAmerican ConquestWar Front: Turning PointThe Settlers - Heritage of KingsStronghold 2Stronghold CrusaderStronghold Crusader ExtremeOnes I never played but know of:CossacksThat Star Wars game that they built on the AoE engineHalo WarsStrongholdStronghold LegendsStronghold 3Similar for those who enjoy the genre:Rome - Total WarImperial GloryStar Wars: Empire at WarWorld in Conflict
>>724906856Have this on disc. Loved the glide units just spam them and ignore enemy walls LMAO
>>724906139I bought Act of War a few years after it came out but could never get it to work. Worth playing?>>724906193>>724906221Forgot these two. Dungeon Keeper 2 (presumably also Dungeon Keeper 1, but I never played it).
>>724906382These aren’t really RTS games since the building element is marginal to the core gameplay. Most who enjoy RTS games will like them, though.
Is RTS castle defence like thronefall or TheyAreBillions or Darfall RTS? I play a lot of this shit because it's the only thing that I see come out for RTS these days.
>>724915983is thronefall fun? i considered getting it or the one that came out around the same time with a similar premise.
Warrior Kings ofcourse one of the most underrated RTS games of the 1990's
>>724907218I loved Tzar, a shame I never got to finish the campaign due to a combination of soft locking bugs and a lack of skill
Zeus
>>724905941that one RTS about time travel that seemed like it'd change everything but then didn't, not sure it even came out
>>724916090Yeah it's pretty fun, feels like a wc3 custom game or something.
Why are there no good Modern Warfare RTS games. I tried playing Syrian Warfare but it feels like a janky CoH mod.
>>724916480Warno is pretty good but it's also very milsimy.
>>724916480modern warfare is too spread out to fit with what RTS excels at. it'd really only make sense as a map game and that's not what people who play RTS want
This game is kinda shit but it had one really cool mechanic, you could lob limbs off your opponent's mech, steal them, bring them back to base, reverse engineer them, and use that component for your own mech.Still not interested? Ok how about the fact you fight on 3 different levels. Ground, underground, and sky (low orbit?)
Warlords Battlecry 3
>>724905941Hey sseth, looking for some new games?
>>724916551i wish eugen wasnt retarded and was better at marketing warno. it's a lot of fun.
>>724906185stopped reading at mech commander
Rasetsu (2001)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THFhfpaIHMg&t=395s
Star Command DeluxeThis pile of shit came out 1 year after red alert and I doubt anybody here has played it but I loved this shit.
>>724916660There's been several attempts at it. Like World in Conflict, and that Red Dragon game. The irony being that the abstraction most games use to make their gameplay work could probably benefit a modern warfare style RTS. Worked out well for CnC Generals.
Z
>>724915149I had that first person game, it was actually a predecessor. It had the mechanic where you could play on foot or inside a mech, which was quite advanced at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUSl_DLlPBcI like that the game was developed by the 7th Level which also made a pretty fun Ace Ventura adventure and two Monty Python games.
>>724917379I wish there were more anime themed rts games
>>724916480warno, broken arrow, call to arms, RTTs are better fit for modern warfare
>>724905941dune 2000
>>724917543I only had the demo for g-nome, it really seemed fun. Dominion was kinda jank compared to how slick red alert was unfortunately but it was bogged down in a mess of production.
>>724905941Shattered Galaxy
>>724917778Dominion reminded me of Space Clash: The Last Frontier from 1999. That was a cute little game from Spain but somehow it was very difficult for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0s7mTNW60I love this little game like you wouldn't believe. What other games let you listen to the game's entire soundtrack played by a goblin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbAbihV5CH0Caves was the best by far.
Playing dawn of war right now, soulstorm specifically because I think the flying shit added in the last expansion was dumb.
>Golem>2002>Sea-based RTS>Three races: steampunky humans, biohorrors and a sci fi master race.Wasn't as fun as Submarine Titans but still pretty coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97GKEWUqzB4
>>724918121>Soulstorm>Dark Crusades campaign mapQue?
>>724917692This was in 2001, when Japan's PC market is dying en masse. The only real time strategy games left are the Nobunaga's Ambition and Romance of Three Kingdoms games.
>>724905941When are people going to make an RTS that doesn't have that stupid isometric camera? I want an RTS where your character is actually on the battlefield fighting and controlling your army at the same time.
It was not of the best ones but god, this soundtrack may unironically be among the best in all the industry.https://youtu.be/Zr1Dnv8LQsw?si=PH08sAiSGRIpEBO-
>>724918704Brutal Legend is the best I can think of that tried that.
>>724918242he meant dark crusade, you can tell because he used correct name for the game with the flying shit that he said he didn't like.
Settlers IIThe game's soundtrack was made by the guy behind the Falkenbach band, I think.
>>724918242>>724918853Sorry that's correct, playing dark crusade because soulstorm flying shit.
>>724918704>I want an RTS where your character is actually on the battlefield fighting and controlling your army at the same time.1. That camera is kino fuck you2. There are quite a few games that do that but they never sell well and mostly died out. Battlezone is the most famous, Viking battle for Asgard is one of the more recent attempts.
>>724918704Spell forceHostile WatersSacrifice
Age of mythology
>>724918704Battlefield 2 and 2142 had this, it was called commander mode.Also planetside 2 you can lead platoons of 48 people, and you're staring at the map 95% of the time.
>>724918704>I want an RTS for brown "people" which is actually just an OTS action gamethere are dozens of those
>>724905941world in conflict
Shouldn't RTS discussion be held on the RTS board?>>>/vst/
>>724919543no
>>724918704
>>724919543>Dead /v/ splinter is deadshocking
>>724906345It was popular at the time but didn't leave much of a legacy.Honestly Empire Earth 2 was pretty cool but came a bit late for the genre.The lack of a good way to play either these days doesn't help.
>>724919543There are also boards for multiplayer games and rpg games, shouldn't all discussion of that be on their respective boards too?
>>724906372Buying AE gives you the others but you launch them separately on steam.You only need whichever one you want installed, except possibly winter assault needing the base game idk.
>>724917692
>>724919543I honestly think autistic people are subhumans. You are worthless and a weight on everyone around you including your parents and you should kill yourself. You are not in good company, we would instantly murder you if this was real life.
>Conquest: Frontier WarsI loved this stupid game far too much as a kid.It was the most blatant Starcraft ripoff ever but it was fun.
Question is there a japanese RTS? or do they lack the ability to fight war in real time?
>>724905941>>724918704Divinity: Dragon Commander
>>724919878Aw shit I forgot that game existed.>got to marry a skeletonSweet>she can become a sex bot or steal a human woman's skin to appease youSWEET
This GBA RTS has one of the best campaign/mission design ever.
>>724919845>Go into RTS thread to bemoan autists.Where do you think we are
>>724905941This genre literally was everywhere up to the mid 2000’s then suddenly disappeared . WHAT happened?
>>724918704They've done it countless times.You being too retarded and brown to conceptualize anything beyond "your dude" doing things isn't going to make that fundamentally poor concept work.
>>724919993MOBAS
>>724919993the casuls and tryhards went to mobasthe autists went to map painter or 4x
>>724919993Vast IQ drop in the median gamer due to casuals and thirdies
>>724919964some autists are more equal than others, shitty mentally ill ritual poster is not an equal.
>>724919993Most obvious cause is that the genre fragmented and split heavily, with more and more prevalence of 4X games, different types of RTS like Total War, MOBAs, eventually colony sims popping up to fill the "gather-resources-and-base-build" desire, and so on.The real reason though is just that actual PC gaming died. Essentially every fundamentally PC genre died over the course of the 00's. CRPGs? Dead. Space Sims? Dead. Arena FPS? Dead. And so on.The only things that survived lived through being small enough scale for the indie boom in the early 2010's, or by a couple of individual huge games that carried their genre alone.
>+100 replies>not a single mention of Sudden Strikethe sheer amount of expansions, spin-offs, clones, mods, bootlegs, let alone illegally released copycats (*cough* Red Ice *cough*) is mind boggling. And that's not even including Nival's plagiarized pseudo-3D copycat - Blitzkrieg.
>>724920353I thought this was the copycat, do they play the same? I didn't like Blitzkrieg too much even though it looks amazing, the gameplay is kind meh.
>>724919768Fuck, this game was honestly my weeb awakening as a kid. I don't know how I found it and got a translation patch working at the age that I did, but hey.Honestly ever since I've wondered about the more niche Japanese strategy games. It's always seemed like there's more there, but they're mega niche and there's almost no information on them. Stuff like Galaxy Angel, Schwarzschild, etc. have a weirdly distinct vibe to them.
>>724919878>Same devs as BG3hmm maybe i should give that a try
>>724919993My theory is it was impossible to monetize.Look at sc2 for example. The game + expansion format simply doesn't work when you could instead sell loot crates to whales for 4 million dollars. A whale in an rts can only spend as much as a regular gamer.
>>724920705Stellaris shows you can convince people to continuously buy shit to make your game functional...because you sold the mechanics to the next patch separately.
>>724920432no it's different. I can't say if it feels the same for someone else but for me it doesn't. The original Sudden Strike game was actually a third installment of Russian language WW2 RTS developed by a bunch of people who finished some fancy electronics institute in early 1990s or so. Blitzkrieg came much later and was just one example of Nival's shady habit of stealing other people's ideas.
>>724920842Paradox has this shit down to a science. But I don't think that would work in multiplayer and in real time.
>>724920934Paradox has presumably been "encouraging" Triumph to do that with Age of Wonders 4. The game is already gearing up for a 3rd wave of DLC to the point that what it was at launch and what it is now is practically 2 different games.
ORB
>>724921219holy kino
The first rts game I ever played was Rise and Fall. It probably wasnt very good but I played it alot since it was one of the first pc games I ever bought with my own money.
>>724905941Stronghold 1 & CrusaderOriginal WarImpossible CreaturesSubmarine TitansWarlords Battlecry 3:^)
I've never played it personally but Gothic armada 2
>>724921384>Original Warthat main menu theme still haunts me
I have no fucking clue if these are technically tactics games, but there was an Army Men RTS.
>>724905941Rise of nations
>>724920590It's honestly not good, gameplay wise. It's honestly popular because of the three main girls that you could marry.
>>724920353It's horribly unbalanced and generally not fun, unless you like quick saving and quick loading constantly.
>>724905941kingdom under fire
Kingdom Under FireBlack Moon ChroniclesDark ColonyEarth 2140PolanieMyth: The Fallen Lords
>>724920121>>724920140>>724920270>>724920705This is all generally correct, but missing the core issue. People became extremely insecure faggots due to self-esteem educational models eliminating social competition from life, and RTS is one of the quintessential competitive genres. That's ultimately what caused the splintering. If people aren't looking for competition, other genres do what single-player RTS does, but better. In the online RTS games still alive today, the most popular modes are co-op compstomps and team games.The FGC likely only survived by grace of the genre's approachability due to its extremely low skill floor. Competitive FPS has only become more team-based over time. MOBAs became more popular not just because they're far simpler with a character focus for people like this >>724918704, but because they are fundamentally imbalanced and team-based, allowing protection of the ego in almost all situations. Compared to RTS, most 4X and sims are entirely constructed around a more relaxed single-player experience, have a much lower skill floor, and have more depth and content.There's also the contributing factor that, being inherently competitive, RTS is stressful, and the vast majority of people aren't looking for more stress in their lives right now.
>>724905941Tooth and Tail. It's a mediocre game but I remember there being a lot of hype for this game before it came out. It's completely forgotten now and I'm surprised the furries haven't latched on to this game.
>>724921434Bombastic game and underrated around these parts
I bought endwar and stormrise.
>>724923230>headless soldier nebula in the backgroundbased
>scroll through the suggestions>almost every game I wanted to mention has been mentionedGood on ya, /v/, making me proudTo add to the thread:Rising KingdomsHeroes of Annihilated EmpiresAtrox (lmao)
>>724905941Sins of a Solar Empire
>>724906221WE'RE UNDA A TAK
>>724922476I'll add to this that the genre is saturated, just like FPS.There are so many existing titles with variations in mechanics and themes that I'm not sure what a new RTS could do to differentiate itself. Speaking personally, I can't imagine what would get me to stop playing AoE2 (other than continued dogshit expansions, but then it's back to Voobly). Microsoft tried with 4, but that was basically AoE3:2 and only supplanted that less popular entry.
Since nobody mentioned themArmy Men RTSBattle RealmsDark Planet Battle for Natrolis
>>724920140https://quanticfoundry.com/2024/05/21/strategy-decline>When we looked for long-term trends across the 12 motivations, we found that many motivations were stable or experienced minor deviations over the past 9 years. Strategy was the clear exception; it had substantially declined over the past 9 years and the magnitude of this change was more than twice the size of the next largest change.>It’s the equivalent of everyone (worldwide) losing 6.60 points of IQ.
>>724906065>KKND(2: Krossfire)>>724919856>Conquest: Frontier Wars>>724910205>>724911493>Dark Reignlooks like I have nothing to add here, other than specifying the KKND sequel, damn I was fucking young when I played this shit not even 10 yetfuck I want it, I want that child brain dopamine sense of wonder getting brain sexed by everything
>>724906384it's not hidden, people played it and discovered it was complete dogshit
>>724919857there are plenty, they're just not the cookie-cutter top down build bases send blobs to attack style of western rts games.
>>724905941Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty It's easy because command and conquer is just that game with a worse IP. They even kept the fucking spice harvesters.
>>724905941NorthgardStronghold seriesCombatants
Dune 2Dune 2000Emperor: Battle for Dune7th LegionTotal AnnihilationMajesty(?)Warlords Battlecry HomeworldWar of the RingsBattle for Middle EarthDawn of WarCompany of HeroesPopulous 2Battle Realms
>>724924989Damn, that's a useful article.
>>724926695>NorthgardDune: Spice Wars did it better desu, though it basically requires being played multiplayer.
Warzone 2100One of the first PC games I ever owned
Dark ColonyWar WindOutliveStalin vs MartiansZeroSpace and D.O.R.F. (coming Soon™)
>>724905941Does Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds count?
I saw a voxel-based RTT game on YouTube about a year ago that looked cool. Anyone know what it might have been? Fully destructible environment, played like World in Conflict, and looked like Ace of Spades.
>>724906221BASED
>>724916674Blue print progression. Seen in that one Minecraft clone (Story something or other), Spore, Rust, Unturned. Kind of a cool mechanic.
>>724917505World of Conflict was cool but I remember the units being kind of dumb. It made it a lot of micromanagement which I couldn’t keep up with even when I was younger.
>>724906705What mod is this ? Looks good.
>>724907463I heard about it but never played it. I know it was advertised with this mini game called Kilt Invaders.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iIlJDNeAsAThis also reminds me of another minigame advertising Settlers 4.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7VtTPnCC3I
>>724917960How is it that all of these games from the 1990s look so much better than the crap we got in the 2000s? I know most of them were painful to micromanage and had bad controls but I just can’t figure out what the art directors were even thinking going 3D. Age of Empires III was the first RTS I ever owned and I played Rise of Nations far more often just because it looked so much better.
I had a demo disc that came with pretty much the full skirmish mode for free, so good
>>724905941Impossible CreaturesMetal FatigueArmy Men RTSBattle Realms: Winter of the WolfSacrificeAge of Ethanols
>>724918704There’s Overlord (an Age of Empires 2 mod), and Dungeon Keeper. There was a game like this I remember seeing in the store like 20 years ago where it was an RTS based in classical Greece but you could fight in first person mode using a hero unit (I’ve never been able to find it online, though).It’s a cool idea in theory but in practice the mechanic isn’t really all that fun and becomes anachronous once you move beyond the Napoleonic Era.
>>724922135>>724922292>Kingdom Under FireGreat game
>>724919227Battlefield 2 and 2142 were both FPS games, not RTS games. I don’t think 2 had it. I could never get it to work with 2142.>Planetside 2I had an idea for a game like this before I had ever heard of it. I’ve still never gotten around to playing it but I imagine it’s a lot of fun.
>>724917542My brother. I remember watching the intro cutscene with my friend in primary school. We laughed at the robots drinking beer.
>>724932048>It’s a cool idea in theory but in practice the mechanic isn’t really all that fun and becomes anachronous once you move beyond the Napoleonic Era.It works if an NPC controls the vast legion of mooks and the player is just one unit in that vast sea of mooks (see: RUNNING WITH RIFLES) and some PvP FPS game I can't remember the name of where it's another player putting down buildings and making NPC units and stuff, but I think at that point you're entering ASSFAGGOTS territory if you have to make the player characters unique from the NPC mobs.
>>724905941Sudden Strike, Blitzkrieg, Ground Control.
>>724919673I tried going back and playing Empire Earth II years ago and it didn’t hold up at all. Bad camera, janky controls. I remember loving it as a kid, though, it had some great campaigns.
0 A.D.
>>724922476I liked playing some of these games competitively, but not others. I grew up treating AoE3, AoM, and Rise of Nations as Sim City builders in single player mode. When I got to high school I played a lot of Stronghold 2 online; no fog of war meant it was easy to learn the meta before I even knew what a “meta” was. The community also generally played teams and the skill range varied a ton but didn’t have any ultra competitive players because there was no matchmaking service, just a GameSpy lobby. This was funny. By contrast, in the 11th grade my friends all got really into playing Age of Empires 2 and I hated it because two of them memorized build orders and would flatten everyone with siege onagers while we were still in feudal. I love watching Age of Empires II online but I hate playing it simply because the only way to be competitive is to treat it formulaically like chess.
>>724919993Shit genre, at least League is slightly fun.
>>724922476> allowing protection of the ego in almost all situationsMaybe I should start playing MOBAs…
>>724905941Cosmonarchy >:)))>But that's just Starcraft 1 Modded to hell and back to the point it's no longer Starcraft 1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaTRgneNi8A
>>724917503I had this janky ass game, I love how it had a bunch of novel ideas like each faction having their own damage type which caused different effects.
>>724932245You’re describing cooperative play. You could do this in World of Conflict and (if I recall correctly) Rise of Nations. It would have been cool in Age of Empires 2 since economic management is so much more involved, but in Rise of Nations you usually just set it and forget it, so the other player is basically just another set of eyes to respond to attacks.
>Conquest Earth>pestered dad day in day out to get it because it looked really cool>finally get it>it's such a broken piece of shit even 9 year old me couldn't cope withProbably the first time I was crushingly disappointed by a game. Like units would not do anything, not even shoot unless specifically ordered to. And when you ordered a unit to attack, it would simply shoot from wherever it stood regardless of whether the target was even in range.
>>724905941Age of Mythology: Extended Edition
>>724933151lol. Experienced this with a few games. It was always disappointing.
Rise of Nations was pretty kino
>>724905941i'll even name two that arent in this thread>from glory to goo>infested planet
>>724917000:)
>>724933208Unit pathing was also broken and I remember this being a thing with a lot of late 90s shovelware RTS games. The units would never go a direct path but move along the edges of impassable terrain like a blind man feeling his way against a wall. And often they would end up getting stuck. 7th Legion is another game I remember having really broken pathing AI.
>>724905941Jackie Chan
>>724933017AoE2 DE officially supports co-op now in custom lobbies by picking the same color. Or you can just sling in a team game, same difference.
>>724905941Empire Earth
>>724932701>I hate playing it simply because the only way to be competitive is to treat it formulaicallyIt's really just the first 18 or-so villagers you really should be following a build order. After that you can do whatever the fuck you want and succeed, even at a high level.
>>724908974Kohan is not available in my region.The fuck is wrong with Steam?
>>724937104I read that it's due to publisher not working with steam in regards to regional pricing. Why couldn't they just say "fuck it, just use the base price" like the japanese do is beyond me, but because of that it's unavailable. Just pirate it I guess, since they didn't care for your money in the first place.
>>724912052it's pretty flawed, but still great
>>724921434not an RTSalso the AI is fucking retarded, making singleplayer quite shitty and fuck the devs for just abandoning it after adding the shitty meme titan mode or whatever that was, useless shit "fun" mode
>>724906185>empire at wat
>>724919993They stopped focusing on the campaign and went all in on the multi-player. Turns out alienating 90% of your audience is a bad strategy.
>>724906345It was, but it lacks replayability these days since the AI cheats. So LAN/online was the only good way of playing it.The campaigns also lack replayability.
>>724905941star wars galactic battlegrounds
>>724906490>game has kino voice acting in my obscure language>want to recommend it to others online>game apparently has no voice acting at all in the english versionWhat the fuckanyway, super fun campaign. Really wish there were more RTS games with a campaign that feels like you are adventuring around with a couple characters and just joining and helping out in battles everywhere
>>724929669Based, the unit creation mechanic in this one was so great. Too bad it was balanced like shit, the campaign is still good fun along with the skirmish.
>>724905941Cossacks is pretty nice. And 3 is pretty much a remake of 1 with almost 1-to-1 mechanics.>>724912052This and Company of Heroes are definitely peak of the border pushing sub-genre. Not sure if I would call it the best RTS, but it's pretty great. I just wish it had more content for each age and the early ones lasted longer, while middle ones were a bit shorter. It feels like no matter the game settings, you will spend most of the time (and likely finish) around medieval one.
>>724905941total annihilation
>>724906221THIS
Spelforce 1 Platinum Edition is a true German classic
>>724916480Have you tried World in Conflict from 2007? I've enjoyed it back in the day. No idea how it holds up today.
>>724940423I remember a game with cossacks in it>spam cossacks in multiplayer>map centre is a giant deathball when they rebel over not getting paid>have to move around it to attack each otherfun game
>>724937576the publisher doesn't exist anymore. The game is effectively in limbo. Heard the money goes directly to Valve for all sales of the game
I liked Earth 2150 and The Moon Project, even though they were extremely janky. More RTS should use this mechanic of having a main base where you do research and progress some bigger quest, while you battle in regular missions at the same time.>>724940572I sometimes go on youtube and watch a random tournament game just to see those huge blobs moving around and colliding. You can pretty much open a random one and halfway through there will be a clash of blobs.
>>724906221Highly based
>>724905941company of heroes
>>724919845Just kill yourself you fucking sentimental shitmite. If the world was clear of easily manipulated melodramatic golems like you, we'd have space travel and world peace by now. You're garbage given human shape, and literally more worthless than violent rapists as at lest they help population grow in low birthrate countries.
>>724905941Hooligans
>>724918704You want Urban Assaulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0zA4EQeqQ
I've been playing BAR because of a /v/ shill posting about itpretty fun. controls really well
>Every game I can think of got mentioned, even fucking Dark ColonyI guess there's Warband and The Guild if you stretch the definition of RTS a bit
>>724905941DOTA 2
>>724941621space travel is literally worthless you subhuman retardthere's nothing more impulsive and emotional than an autist, they care about stupid shit that doesn't matter and act violent when other people tell them it doesnt
sw galactic battlegrounds, such a pretty game with patches and widescreen
>>724906221This
>>724942235Man, there's nothing I miss more than hand drawn 2D trees.
>>724918704you can pan the camera to see units very closealso you're a retard
>>724942471https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7h3G5gpeAs
>>724922476You're wrong because the online multiplayer scene was not the main thing for the genre, Starcraft was an outlier. The internet fucked a lot of genres back in the day, to the point that during the first couple of years of the 21st century it felt like every major game was going to be some sort of online only/MMO type thing. It is precisely the need to compete the thing that killed RTS games. Because the genre was almost entirely SP focused. Empire Earth was kind of a flop because the AI was "impossible" to beat due to it being hardcoded to cheat so it became a challenge for veteran players. People look back at old games and think they are hard because gamers were more intelligent but that's not the case, because the business model was built so you had to buy guides and call hotlines. And the number 1 complaint that devs and publishers received was that games were simply too difficult to complete, and most people dropped them. This was relevant because people who dropped a game were unlikely to buy the next one.t. Boomer
>>724942129>space travel is literally worthless...except it could help mankind survive when Earth inevitably becomes inhospitable.
Someone help me remember the name of an RTS I played:>multiplayer in the demo>could play 2/3 factions in demo, could play the 3rd by swapping game files>3rd faction was full of hovering tanks with artillery, mobile shields etc, orange coloured>very much played like ground control>could command the drop ship that brought your units for a short time>could upgrade it to stay longer and have better weapons\armourBasically it was like if someone made ground control 3. In fact I believe it was hyped as its spiritual successor
>>724906221title theme is S+
>>724943164I thought we were past believing in this fairy tale by now.
>>724943041I never played anything online until after I had graduated from university and moved to a place with cable. I started with C&C LAN on a friend's pair of Macintoshes, then AoE in the school's computer lab, and by the time AoE2 released, both my brother and I had PCs.
>>724943994world in conflict
>>724943041Only if you are stupid, and a lot of kids were back then. I never bought a single overpriced guide or called a hotline. I spent my pocketmoney on Magazines that had the guides and cheatcodes in it. Back then we also had rentals, demos and shareware, making it a lot easier to decide in wich game you want to invest time and money in.
>>724944094Anon please…re read my post.
>>724905941Rise of LegendsBattle for Middle Earth
>>724944117Because you were a console kid and your market targeted you. PC was always aimed at adults. The documents you see in GOG games like Guides and whatnot were actual books you could buy. The funny thing is that they were often inaccurate or plain wrong. That whole business branch died when walkthrough sites became a thing.
>>724943994Ground Control II: Operation Exodus (2004)?
>>724943994Universe at War: Earth Assault?
>>724944032Check raw temperature records then and do the tests yourself instead of being an ignorant moron. Pick a nearby weather station such as an airport, they are good because their data is public and consistent.Go to https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access or search “NOAA Climate Data Online.” for instanceDownload the daily temperature record (they let you export CSV files).Plot the annual average for the past 50–100 years using Excel or Google Sheets.You’ll see the trend yourself, local warming is directly measurable.
>>724944351I grew up with a PC. Amiga then PC. PC Games, PC Action and Gamestar are the ones i remember the most but there were a lot more and they all came with help, guide and cheat sections, sometimes even with cheat programs that modify the save file.Unless you want some fancy book the magazines were cheaper in the long run. The only problem was that you might have had to wait a few months until the guide was printed to give the official guide time to sell.
>>724945136>noooo the climate can't change aieeeeIt's nothing short of hubris to believe Man dictates, or can dictate, anything.
>>724910306>Braindead game but I loved it so much.It's only as deep as you are. To this day, I'm learning little techniques
I used to play Empire Earth back in the day with all kinds of cheats. I remember thinking the game was crazy because you'd go from literally-who throwing sticks and stones to space faring civilizations. There's a cheat to spawn a car, too.
Submarine Titans
>>724945136>weather station such as an airport>they are good because their data is consistentthese are the people who fancy themselves scientists
>>724905941Dawn of WarSupreme CommanderEmpire at WarTzarEarth 2150CossacksHomeworld
dark colony
>>724905941galactic battlegrounds. those explosions sprites are seared into my memory
>>724940553I loved that game. Got the GOG version which stopped working after I got force-moved to Windows 11 because of software I have to use for work. Couldn't find any fixes online back then, unsure if they exist now. Campaign is also very engaging, but the MP and even AI skirmishes were so much fun.
>>724940553The idea was unique and interesting but just like WoW AV teamspeak/premades killed the fun in pubs. I didn't even know it had a singleplayer campaign
>>724946314this shit needs a definitive edition
>>724909217The VFX have been etched into my memory. I still hear the different kinds of energy/lazer weapons, whenever I think about the game or see screenshots.
>>724905941Spellfo->>724906613>>724940498>>724919021these anons beat me to it, awesome posts
Back in the early 2000s I've bought a gaming magazine that came with a CD filled with shovelware. One of the game was an RTS themed around Asia, with a cartoony look (roughly looked like WC3). I can't recall its name, but it was oddly fun.
>>724947737Potentially Battle Realms. An absolute classic and unique in many ways.
Chaos Island
>>724947514we've looked into it and it's not feasible with Disney in control
>>724947872Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>724945658no? if we can wipe out cities and such in an instant we can wipe out forests and ecosystems, not to mention we've driven many species to extinction.
Battle RealmsWH40k
Rise of Legends. What a kino intro toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvXF3oGy-iEI get chills re-watching this
>>724947737Battle RealmsDragon throne: Battle of Red CliffsThree Kingdoms: Fate of the DragonWar Diary (1996)Seven Year War (1997)
>>724947872>>724948030Holy shit, it's the game! Thank you again!
>>724919543Sure, just get the jannies to enforce the rules, lmao
>>724905941stormgate lolLOLAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>724919543>>724948601a softcore pokemon porn thread died for actual vidya discussion
>>724948753I wonder how the devs are going to climb out the hole that they dug themselves.
>>724948909they’re business idiots and industry parasites. they’ll file for bankruptcy and continue to fail upwards by joining other companies and doing the same to them
>>724905941Tempest Rising? Warlords Battlecry?
>>724946228more like BASED colony
>almost 2/3 of the games being suggested in this thread are actual RTS gamesgood job /v/ you're getting better.
>>724905941For me it's Rise of Nations.
That game where you were building on islands floating in the sky which fell apart and it was basically just lots of towers slinging discs or something. GOD what a gay ass fucking RAGE inducing game. The skirmish missions went HARD.
>>724906221i fucking love this game still, shame the AI cheats so hard
posting some webms
>>724906793>perimetergame full of ideas that went under the radar. terraforming alone was impressive, but story was apparently butchered in localization.
Since you guys are listing RTS's I'm trying to find one I remmeber playing but could never find again.All I remmeber is it involved making armies of vareious insects and bugs then using them to kill off the other bugs.
>>724907664Both BfME games are sadly stuck in licensing hell. If you care about legal purchase, that is.
>>724950858I couldn't keep playing after the first time I forced it off of a resource and it just kept making units without end. Awful design decision.
>>724931958Cossacks was hard as NAILS.
>>724905941Nebulous: Fleet Command
>>724905941Zero-K saw the potential of Total Annihilation and took it to another level. It's incredible really.
>>724940498it's astonishing to me no other game really copied the spellforce formula. at least there's a trilogy + expansions for each game so fan ate well.
>>724905941>mfw missed an rts thread
>>724952018Empire of the Ants (2000)Battle Bugs (1994)Swarm Assault (1999)
>>724905941Rusted Warfare
>>724952431It was Swarm Assault, holy shit it's been over 20 years.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUsvYmBEsCoThanks anon.
>>724919856>>Conquest: Frontier WarsIt also had a KILLER soundtrack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYpLndp3KQ
>>724952247Incredibly ugly that
>>724950901NOM'd
>>724952525A sequel exists, Swarm Rampage (2002).
Dark Reign (not a real remaster)
>>724952835Zero-K won and understood what RTS truly is. It's not spamming 400 afuses in the corner of map to build the most expensive units on repeat to have endless flashy explosion spam. Zero-K have battles which can have problems you need to solve that you can't just simply out eco of. They properly evolve without completely invalidating the current state of the battle.
>>724953182Get out of here dev you only exist by proxyGo and make it less ugly pleaseAnd remove the fart build gun
>>724953335Only BAR has the problem where people will have to build afuses on repeat. Only BAR has the problem where the most optimal play is to not play and donate all your stuff to someone else so they can tech faster.
>>724952835ZK is better in terms of game designbut I can see the appeal of how BAR plays, and that ZK is ugly as fuck
>>724946228When I was baby, I thought that the intro was the most kick ass shit everhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxO6s41Gc8
>>724953596>Only BAR has the problem where people will have to build afuses on repeat. Only BAR has the problem where the most optimal play is to not play and donate all your stuff to someone else so they can tech faster.Sounds like a (you) problemsApply yourself
I wish more people did webms in general
This and also Haegemonia Legions of Iron
>>724905941ground control
>>724905941Dawn of War
Anons, what's the title of the game that allows you to advance from mudhuts to nukes and SciFi?
>>724952318Only the original trilogy is Spellforce, the sequels and prequels are skinwalking the IP. Whereby the sequel (2+) is worse than the prequel (3+), even though both effectively butcher and retcon most of the lore established in the original. Not to mention the pruning and shitt friction lesa design that completely neutered the RPG elements.
>>724956027Empire Earth?
>>724956027Rise of nations? Empire earth?
Dark Reign: The Future of War. I liked it, still like it.
>>724925567dumb nigger, get some taste
>>724956465>>724956487Rise of Nations. Thank you.
>>724957097No problem, Anon. Have fun. There's a pretty nice modernized (compatibility, resolution etc.) version on Steam.https://store.steampowered.com/app/287450/Rise_of_Nations_Extended_Edition/
>>724911616>released 25 years agostill looks amazing, great voice acting too
>>724932048Rise & Fall Civlizations At War is the game you're looking for I bet. At least only one that comes to mind with the 3rd person hero control in the classical period with Rome, Persia, Greece and older Egypt. Great ideas with a lot potential I wish a newer game tried to improve on.
It does get very repetitive towards the end, unfortunately.
>>724940932Earth 2150 is just a blessed mess where they threw in every possible idea they had.>day/night cycle, can turn unit lights on/off to affect unit visibility in exchange for movement speed>full range of weather that affects your units, wind, snow, rain, thunderstorms, even meteor showers, one faction can even control these at will while the others get nukes>units and buildings can be customized by mixing and matching chassis and weapons>units have limited ammo and need to be resupplied in combat>units gain experience and become stronger the more they fight>malleable terrain, you can dig trenches and flatten ground, even build bridges over rivers>there's a whole another map layer underground where you can dig tunnelsJust to name some. Always wondered what the hell they were thinking while designing the game, but it was cool as hell as long as you didn't care about small things like balance.
>>724959596You just unlocked some memories. Had to look up this banger.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC49F20aWio
>>724905941Rise of NationsStar Wars Galactic Battlegrounds
>>724905941EZDawn of WarBut no seriously, Empires, Dawn of the Modern World was goated.
>>724959754Oh yeah, I forgot about that.>separate day/night/combat soundtracks that are also unique for each factionI should replay the campaigns one of these days.
>>724954479I have tried Settlers 2 Aniversary and man, I want to go back to K&M
