uh oh lemmybrosi think it's time to start making those npcs or the money will run out
>>724919147he'll go back to sperging out on leddit instead of working
just play version 41it's literally perfect
>>724919147They will instead focus on implementing some annoying shit no one cares about because it's realistic and not fun.
the fact that people keep buying it and the player count just keeps going up every year is infuriating, but i guess those are just first timers who don't know better
>>724920594Those poor souls had no one to tell them they shouldn't be enjoying this. What a travesty.
>b42 is still not officially out>it's still on the beta branchholy shit how can you be this incompetent
>>724919147>snow and rain are just paint on the ground with zero effect on walking and driving or fucking anything at all>overly complicated systems like calories that don't even work>player model looks like literal dogshit15 years in development holy fuck, it's literally scam citizen at this point
>>724924473nah, scam citizen is still leagues beyond itdid lemmy ever say "I'd never post pictures of myself on a yacht, I don't think our backers would appreciate that very much :)" and then proceed to post vacation pictures with his wife on a private yacht a few years down the lineSC also has redonkulous prices to make the denial reinforce itself a million times overhe IS like all those weg/porn game patreons though, they have Z E R O incentive to continuously work themselves to the bone and finalize content when they can dripfeed and make bank
the truth is people are way too demanding of a game that's already finishedzomboid's promise was to be a zombie sandbox. you already have that and people have been playing it for thousands of hours, proving it's already reached its goalnpcs are just a bonus
>>724925112NPC's were in the "original" story of Bob and Katet. played that shit back in 2011 (holy shit 14 years lmoa)
>>724919147best I can do is another boring half assed set of crafting mechanicswanna do pottery? no? well it's there anyway, no go shovel clay you fucking retard
>>724919147I bought this 10 years ago and never played it then, recently thought I'd give it a go after threads here.seems cool, I can see why people are complaining though I opened up the crafting menu and there's a bunch of shit about blacksmithing and all I can think is how long would I have to play where it would make sense to blacksmith stuff instead of driving somewhere to loot.do people play this for in-game years or something?
>>724920594>see zombie game on steam>buy it>have fun with it>autismos on 4chan reeee about it while convulsing on the cold basement floorOk this is real funny.
>>724920594What's a better alternative? And no CDDA is not an answer.
>>724925765it's designed to look complicated for a short while to target streamers, world progression dies after a few ingame months
>>724925595Is pottery even useful for anything
>>724919147Why can't we just get a competent Zomboid competitor? Zed Zone still hasn't caught up despite the Indie Stone being lazy fucking idiots. HumanitZ tried to improve the combat but just made the zombies easier and less threatening, the permadeath thing is not even on by default so the gameplay is really forgiving, too forgiving. It's really just a PVP tuned game, which it excels at to it's own credit. CDDA is obviously a good ascii game, good simulations. But is not tuned to the live action combat aspect. Why has it taken so long and yet nothing has come to challenge the Indie Stone? surely it's gonna happen soon right? don't expect it on Zed Zone. You all thought it was the right one but it's a slow development game.
>>724919147Link?
The game gets boring after you survive the first 2 weeks
Zombies should at least turn into crimson heads or something similar after a certain point
>>724927000sandbox games are hard because unless you know what all the systems are gonna be up front you're constantly having to go back to edit core stuff to bolt on new systems.>players want cars>we'll need to add these entities that are larger than a player and collide with all the right things and cant accidentally phase into a house or go through doors or windows>now we have two kinds of traversal area and collisions, players and cars, great.>cars will need fuel which can come from fuel stations I guess, so well need to make a fuel bowser that contains a liquid, but all the fuel bowsers at a station will need to share inventory so we'll need to have items that share inventory now.>oh crap we'll also need to add fuel as a liquid and it can't be drinkable and is flammableit's a pain in the ass to do all this and then only have 20 people buy your game.
>>724927249cant you just edit the sandox so that there's more zombies/sprinters as time goes on?
Wish someone would do what they did to Yandere dev and create a better game in two weeks. Would be funny to see the mental breakdown of these retarded devs. After all, typing out a monthly dev blog is too much for them.Also, what the fuck are these new captchas?
>>724927000HumanitZ is a good enough PZ replacement for me, just waiting for 1.0 to get back into it.
>>724927249>after you survive the first 2 weeksI made it a couple of years once and I did not make the game easier. In fact I turned the spawn rates of zombies pretty high. Never nullified infection in settings either. I found ways to remain entertained but it was kind of being creative in my head like making up my own stories and personal quests, that was playing solo because I prefer the game solo. It don't consider it a better with friends game. I mean it's dumb having to imagine a story or an idea of what I'm playing but that's just what makes it appealing to me personally. Getting the NPCs would obviously create a real sort of dynamic story experience, but it still hasn't happened. Who knows if it will ever happen.
>>724928173>mean it's dumb having to imagine a story or an idea of what I'm playingit's not that dumb, I think it's normal in any sort of sandbox game.heck in kenshi you basically have to come up with a motive otherwise you're just running around doing fuck all and it's easy enough to just stay alive mining copper for bread.
So is Vein a worthy competitor to Zomboid? what are your thoughts? do the claims stack up? I like that they included infection mechanics. What does it lack? something's gotta give. It's gotta be something like it lacks mechanical depth or something. Anyone willing to share their thoughts?
Apparently an OG Zomboid dev is working on Vein. So It could have potential, but the issues I've seen with it primarily is that the zombies aren't really able to pose a capable threat yet, they can use infection mechanics on a hit, which shows commitment to the idea, but their actual attacking and tracking kind of seems less as effective as Zomboid? I don't know how to describe it but it's not like you ever have to distance yourself from the zombies to take swings and it's not hard to win the fights, nor does it seem really that dangerous when you're around multiple of them. It doesn't look like there's much emphasis on how it's all about distancing in a fight. There isn't much emphasis on quickly you can get scratched or bitten. It seems like the issue I see most of the time with any zomboid competitor: lack of credible threats. Still it is early development, perhaps it could improve.
It's still hilarious that their tactic of just banning everyone who asks about NPCS from their forums worked and no one cares.You can tell they are literally running out of shit to add and panicking because they have done zero of the work they said they've been doing on NPCS since 2014.>all the major NPC systems are already finished we just need to piece them togethera direct quote from 2 years ago btw, it's insane how they literally just lied in the NPC trailer
>>724927560captchas for the discerning schizo
>>724929380This game looks promising but really it depends on what direction they take it in. This is how 7 days to die started out. Maybe with AI assisted tools games will have more jump start potential like coding and artwork.This is also how the dead linger started out and that game got abandoned but that game was super early alphahttps://youtu.be/uaHc7gSjYRg>What does it lack? something's gotta give. It's gotta be something like it lacks mechanical depth or something.It has to have mechanical depth, at least more than dayz and on par with zomboid and thats just the baseline to stand out. It needs to have cooking system with buffs, fishing, farming, lots to explore, decorations, high level loot with crafting. An easy way to keep people engaged is skills and an MMO style leveling system.Maybe they can add recipe or plans book that has high level loot and a skill tree that you need to get rare resources to get like NVG's or machine guns. Maybe a whole thing for ammo crafting. Maybe unique decorations and rare items that you can only craft similar to fallout 76 that you have to find plans for to decorate your base only if you find the resources or rare items.Maybe borrow systems from the long dark where you can place items in your base down or place items you find in the world as decorations..
>>724927560if you cleared cache recently they become long with circles over letters for awhile
>>724919147I want an open world The Sims remake using the Project Zomboid engine.
reminder that pic related, some low effort facebook meme, literally made the lead zomboid dev have a complete meltdown and almost made him give up and sell the game.
>>724919147that video is fucking shithe just regurgitates dev's bullshit talking points and says how great it is
qrd?
>>724919147This looks like a funny video. I will watch it later today.>>724926257Zomboid is a fun game that really excells in atmosphere and immersion. The combat is satisfying too.Sadly, one-hit kills and permadeath are really annoying and I would greatly prefere if zombies were more exciting and varied to fight but they wouldn't one hit kill you and actually had to destroy your body for you to die.
>>724935580Shame. That would've been the better option.
>>724930258>Apparently an OG Zomboid dev is working on Veinbetter not be that enigma gray faggot
>>724925112Fuck off simp, quit trying to gaslight for incompetent developers
>>724929380looks shitzombies especiallyat least zomboid has the common decency to look like the sims 1, a game older than most people that play itvein looks like bought_assets_game#42984 and its cheap tooits definitely just trash
>>724919147they're a uk company, you can check their finances on the government doxxing websitethey're not strapped for cash
>>724935580>almostFucking blueballing faggot.
vein may be promising, for all my brothers who love zombie slop
>>724919147>>724920550>>724920594>>724920718>>724926445don't act like /v/ didn't have /vg/ tier generals for fucking months after the mp update came out
>>724935580qrd?
>>724920789Also>still no multiplayerAnd they have worked on this update for what, 4-5 years now and have barely anything to show for it?What a shitshow
>>724924625>he IS like all those weg/porn game patreons though, they have Z E R O incentive to continuously work themselves to the bone and finalize content when they can dripfeed and make bankNot really a good comparison when they get their largest influx of sold copies during sales and major updates, meanwhile porn game patreons get a stable monthly paycheck for doing jack shit.
>>724919147Lemmybros how do we cope when Vein's development start progressing faster than our game?
>>724937868Fifty millions pounds in just two years and are to incompetent to finish one updateWhat the fuck do they do all day?
>>724938870what don't you get?lead dev is a sperg and takes community's words too hard even when they're completely right (example: multiplayer in beta 41 wasn't available for 2 years)
>>724939623is it actually fast or this memeinglast time I saw anything about vein it looked like ue5 slop
>>724939803It's UE4 slop and since the EA release was a success they'll quit their day jobs to develop the game full time, see you in a year to see if the entirety of TIS has been mogged by what started as a side project by two people.
>>724939623>UE5 slopno thanks
>>724919147I don't even care about NPCs. What about more zombie types? Where are the animal zombies like dogs chasing you for example? It doesn't even have to be a base game option, but a setting you could turn on. Instead, they're wasting their time adding stuff like fucking pottery.
>>724940090>What about more zombie types?>gun zombies that fire randomly regardless of where they're aimingi look forward to being randomly headshot by a zombie i didn't see and which wasn't following me like the old instakill throwing knife zombies from unpatched dead island
>>724936794install antibody and you get a chance to die from biting according with your current health and hygiene.
>>724940090>more zombies typeThe most stupid idea ever... The current shamble is more than enough to make the game a nightmare. One or three is fine but above four it gets dangerous.
Special zombie types misses the tone the devs are going forIt's trying to go for the isolated "making do with the scraps of society" romero zombies kino. How much it fails/ succeeds at that is up to intrepretation, but zombies that do backflips and spit aoe zombie spit or pick up cars totally ruins that vibe.
