>>724927480
>my work here is done
>*stops existing*

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>>724927480
Trickster: Shit on GM's table

>>724927480
>"You are a criminal!"
>"Ok so what'chu gonna do blue boy?"
>"N-nothing"

>>724927480
How many of the companions suffer from a true aeon ending and is it better for them to keep their memories or not?

>>724927480
its funny your allies shit on you more as an Aeon than they do when you're a Devil

>>724929873
I fucking hated this so much I almost stopped playing, but then we get the final laugh in act 5.

>>724930625
scummy lawyers are less annoying than hallway monitors

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>>724927480
All of those problems?
Illegal!
Didn't happen!

>>724929970
I kept my companions memories and most of them end up having a normal life
Arue is the only one who doesn't get a happy ending, well that and Anevia stays a man and gets gutted in a ditch somewhere
I found that to be a bit of an odd choice

>>724932351
Oh and Woljiff is just stuck in prison, everyone else but those three are largely better off

are there games more lichcore than wotr?
t. quit every mythic path run somewhere between chapters 3-4 aside from the lich path

>>724932351
Hmm well damn. Arue is the only romance I like so I guess that's off the table if I do true aeon. It makes sense why it happens since she probably doesn't get a chance to redeem herself in that version of the world but I would have thought leaving her memories intact would at least have some positive effect

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I still can't believe that they made the hellknights such a large part of this game and then made the devil path the most low-effort afterthought imaginable.

At least is was better than the cuck dragon path I guess

I really wish magic deceiver would work with the trickster mythic path, it makes so much sense but whatever.

>>724927480
Trickster Sword Saint is fucking broken as shit

>>724927480
clean it up time janny

>>724933645
Romanced Arue does get somewhat of a happy ending with Aeon. It's not great mind you, but it's more positive than negative.

>>724933653
Wasn't mold dragon improved last year?

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enter
EL BROMAS

>>724927480
>take aeon mythic
>straight to true aeon untll the end
>Fuck becoming janny, i'll be the mod instead
Ascending aeon is kino

>>724932351
>and Anevia stays a man and gets gutted in a ditch somewhere
In a weird way I think it makes sense. It'd be like living in a world without 9/11. A bunch of things could add up to you getting run over by a drunk driver or some other stupid death. Fate is fucky like that.
We're always just one bad dice roll away from a stupid death IRL, remember that anons.

>>724939015
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEfcgr9cQWk

>>724933645
>but I would have thought leaving her memories intact would at least have some positive effect
And it does, she's not evil even when she's a demon, but she's still stuck living in a demonic shithole

>>724932351
>and Anevia stays a man
The ending literally uses female pronouns

>>724929873
This is the main reason why aeon sucks, no worth getting to the time travel when 99% of the time you can't do shit against criminals

>>724930625
Tends to happen when you pick a devil path with no reactivity whatsoever

>>724933653
>they made the hellknights such a large part of this game
They're only relevant during Regill's companion quests

>>724942410
>Rejecting his duty and simping for the woman that ruined everything
YWNBARA.

If you ascend you need to take areelu?

>>724950894
No actually, you can go alone, or better yet, ascend with her and leave her alone when she starts talking shit to Pharasma

>>724932351

I didn't play this yet. Does he turn back time as part of that route's ending? That's interesting. Is Aeon worth playing? Which are actually fun and rewarding?

>>724952975
Nah its just that he/she never took the magical gender changing drugs
As for Aeon, well its worth it if you want to literally, retroactively, fix everything, rift never opens and all is somewhat well in the world, even beforehand you redeem Stauton by making it so he never opens the gate and so on, you do have to basically sacrifice your existence and ego tho

>>724952975
The aeon is a spatial janitor that starts using time travel to "correct" the timeline, culminating in rewriting the past century so the portal to not-hell is never opened, and then it erases itself from existence

>>724927480
Lawful Neutral is the most cucked path I can think of. You are the literal embodiment of hall monitor.

>>724937008
Feyform Shifter is just as broken IMO

>>724933645
Well if you romance her she is still stuck in hell and one of the top bitches in Nocticula's crib, but she also doesn't do sex and murder stuff at all, chances are that when Nocticula decides to fuck off from this whole being evil business, Arue is gonna follow her

>>724953517
>>724953409

That does sound kinda interesting to me desu. what other paths are fun and worth doing? Lich and swarm seem cool

>>724953647

>He doesn't realize that legality actually precedes morality and is preceded by power

>>724954092
Angel is somewhat basic crusading and avenging stuff, you do make Big Bad near shit himself tho
Demon is that but evil and powerhungry
Lich is you creating an undead kingdom with you as the overlord I believe and in Swarm you eat everyone, you just eat literally everything and then move on to the world once the rift is closed, its the most evil by far
Azata to me is actually quite interesting because there you are kind of like an angel but with focus on rehabilitation and healing, ending up with an army of peasants, former cultists and redeemed demons

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>>724927480
>seethes at demons for following laws

>>724953647
The most cucked path is lich because you're constantly forced to suck up to an old man and it's also the only path that actually has to sacrifice stuff to be properly completed

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>>724937989
Regardless of the actual content, Gold Dragon is fundamentally unacceptable to me because the entire point of it is the redemption of evil. It's Ember at a large scale.

Flaming sword of justice > forgiving literally human sacrificing demon cultists, not to mention the demons themselves.

On a scale from teh penguin of DOOM! to the lantern king where does trickster land?

>>724960302
Angels and paladins are cool but fuck man does it suck to be bound by the alignment chart. It basically means that if you want to play as a paladin you're at the mercy of the GM's alignment rulings.

>>724960302
You always kill Regill, I hope?

>>724960302
If you fix the cultists and the demons you create a better world and more helping hands to make it so.*
If you kill whatever, you do nothing in particular either way.

*This is only acceptable because Ember and GD people are snowflakes that get to literally throw the laws of the universe upside down and Jesus people into finding a complete new nature. We are not discussing logic of the "bring all the child raping sandniggers, eventually they'll get better!!", but literal reality alteration of existing beings through willpower.

>>724960302
There's unironically no reason NOT to redeem the demons and whatever else they come with when it's Ember's way though.

>>724960463
Much of both. You can also generally choose the intensity of your fucked up actions ranging from dressing up a certain demon lord in a dress and gangin up on them with all your otherworldly friends for a laugh, thus befriending a different demon lord in the process,
or blending two people together into a mutant shared lifeform incorporating both of their personalities and urges because they were dicks to you.

>>724961492
Neato. What class goes well with trickster?

>>724960463
It's mostly the former, sometimes you can do fucked up pranks like genderbending a guy and then sending him to the brothel so he can get raped to death, but for the most part it's just reddit tier like Nenio

>>724932450
>not getting him out so you can kill him when he betrays you

>>724961771
He doesn't betray you, and that has nothing to do with what he was talking about

>>724961843
He runs away like a faggot when the gargoyles show up, that's betrayal enough for me.

>>724961926
>untrainted civilian youth runs away when demon monsters decimate a trained military camp
Who could have seen this coming

>>724962021
Then why the fuck did he even join the campaign?

>>724960302
Gold dragon is right in the cosmic sense, evil can only be completely defeated by redeeming it to the side of good. That starves the evil planes of fresh souls. Are there enough gold dragons to warrant their sense of cosmic superiority? Doubtful, but they've never let that worry them when it means you can lord it over those humanoid savages with your superior morals. Hal skirts around the question of what became of the cultist you spared too
>he's totally a healer now, probably
>don't worry about who he's healing tho

>>724962021
>untrainted civilian youth
Is that what we're calling them now?

>>724962186
He owed you one

>>724962279
His gratest achievement is stealing a necklace and even then he ended up in jail, so kinda, yeah.

>>724962679
Are we going to conveniently ignore the mythic powers and uncanny ability to shank people while casting spells? Woljif's a coward, but he could have just done what Cam's dad did and hide under a cart with an invisibility potion. Instead he deserted the person who bailed his ass out of jail and even helped him get out of trouble with the fucking mobsters he'd screwed over

>>724963181
You have no particular concept of what the mythic powers are at that point other than them "feeling nice", and everyone and their mother can shank people while casting spells in DnD. It's literally an everyday tool.
Nobody said he's not a coward, what was said is that you set up a coward to fail and became shocked that he faltered due to the incompetence of your army as a general rule.
The only reason Cam's dad didn't bail is because he's a fat octogenarian that can't run for shit, anon.

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>>724927480
For me, it's Angel mythic path with my eternally loyal virgin waifu Galfrey ascending with me and becoming my herald wife.

>>724963504
>doesn't give you children

>>724963504
For me, it's Lich and rising the callous bitch as a mockery to her goddess so she can see how much a worthless tool she is when Iomade does literally_nothing.jpg to stop me then forcing her to toot for me for the last stage of the game.

I had a lot of fun being a fire kinetic and burning everything
And being necromancer and boneshaking everything

What are some other fun builds that lean super-hard into doing one thing

>>724927480
nortubel tier character design

>>724954681


Azata sounds cool but also a little bit "path of least resistance". Like ofc you'd rather be an idealistically good utopian good guy that redeems people

I dropped WOTR halfway through and want to pick it up again but I'm dogshit at builds in this game, what's an absolute braindead build I can do so I never have to suffer through the Swarm's wild ride ever again?

>>724963403
He wasn't set up to fail, if anything he was set up to succeed. All he had to do is trust his commander and not run away like a little bitch and he couldn't do it, because he's a filthy chaotic neutral thiefling. If Daeran can get his foppish ass kidnapped by gargoyles and put his hand up for more Woljif has no excuse

>>724964034
Mutagenic warrior 20. Alternatively 2 vivisectionist+18 fighter.

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Canon KC is
>Aasimar
>Female
>Bard
>Chaotic Good
>Azata
>Romance Arue
>Ascension ending
>Impregnated with twins

>>724927480
That ending was the only hard hitting one, every other one was so fucking lame

>>724963686
I just find idea of redeemed manifestations of demons more interesting than "kill them all" crusader larp
Really going through the hoops for that to be done is harder than just killing them

>>724963686
>Azata sounds cool
It really isn't
You get like a one cool moment where you massacre an entire demon marketplace where they sell slaves but the rest of it is genuinely MLP friendship is magic tier

>>724964473
Unless you're Ember, then you just ask them nicely and maybe cry to make them feel bad

>>724964473
>I just find idea of redeemed manifestations of demons more interesting than "kill them all" crusader larp
Somehow they forgot that when making arue, since you kill everyone involved in her past life to make her and only her a better person for some reason and then the game goes "nice! thats what being an azata is all about, here's desna twirling her magic wand in approval."

>>724965925
>unironic Dimalchiofag seething
You don't kill everyone involved in her past, if you don't want to. No one forces you to kill Vellexia for example. Dimalchio was simply too far gone and he escalated the situation until you had to kill him, and the game never tries to pretend that he was 100% at fault for what he did as ultimately he was a victim too

>>724966163
Can't Azata save him, to? Pretty sure that was the option when I played, but it was blocked so I assumed its for a different path

>>724966163
you really thought he played games? such good faith

>>724966595
no. the azata option is singing the song of elysium and torturing him even more. it's my favorite quest in the game because i get to NTR someone to death in a pathfinder game for a second time in a row

>>724966595
There's an option to sing but it just pisses him off even more (and mechanically it scares off some of the servants so you have to fight less enemies)

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>>724960302
The correct answer is to play the corrupt variant and be a selfish prick of a dragon instead of Gold Jesus

>>724966810
Evil GD has even less content than the good one, it's extremely half-assed

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>>724966810
>corrupt GD
Based. I want to domestically abuse Arue.

>>724960302
The gold dragon ending is all about the commander giving the demons who leave the worldwound one chance to redeem themselves and immediately torching them if they refuse
Hal's ideology sucks but the player character isn’t nearly as silly

>>724966163
>too far gone
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>>724960302
>>724967021
this. part of the gold dragon questline is teaching hal and the other dragons that. hal's ways doesn't have to be yours

>>724966163
>>724966629
The problem with aruefags isn't the spamming image part, its the utter commitment to defending fanfic tier writing by single women in their 30s from Owlcat.

>transfrom into a gold dragon
>sees a massive, ludicrously evil demon leading his army of the damned
>lol what a cute kid
>such a precocious little tyke
GD is my favorite path simply due to that scene.

It seems like every time someone mentions a mythic path that they actually dislike fucking all of them lmao. I really don't know what is considered fun by most people's standards, just that Gold Dragon is the most half baked and the angel/demon/devil paths are generic le evil vs good fantasy slop

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>>724927480
>You can't do this!
>Lol said the Lich
>Lmao

You can actually Ascend with the Swarm that Walks btw

>>724967317
I feel like devil is the most half baked

>>724967317
>the angel/demon/devil paths are generic le evil vs good fantasy slop
Where do you think we are

>>724967474
You mean with mods or did they finally stop requiring crusade projects for that?
Was always weird that they wrote an epilogue for swarm yet made it impossible to access

FUCK YOU
>SHEDS YOUR MYTHIC POWER

>>724967474
explain

>>724967706
Apparently there's a mod free workaround using autocrusade mode.

>>724966629
He most likely did, it's just the Arue hateboner warping his perception of reality, it always does

>>724967474
Why would you want to? It's better to just consume everything

>>724968179
Eating mortals and gods > only eating mortals

>>724968236
You'll eventually become strong enough to eat gods too

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>>724967474
>the swarm rape porn I commissioned with nocticula and iomedae is accurate
Nice.

>>724968448
It won't matter in the end since you'll just get BTFO by Rovagug when he breaks free.

...though playing as Rovagug's opening act makes sense given that the Swarm has special lines for being a Rovagug worshipper that presents that exact idea, prepping the world for Rovagug's release that is.

>>724968018
Autocrusade mode in Act 5

>>724968179
You're dying bro, swarm will always die in the end.

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fuck god

fuck evil

fuck good

fuck angels

fuck devils

I make my own destiny

The route with a cute dragon sidekick

>>724927480
> Follow the law until you are firmly in charge
> Immediately proceed to flagrantly break every rule while the universe seethes
Gotta make up for lost time.

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>>724970008
>Use mythic powers to powerlevel and acquire a bunch of +5 equipment
>NEVER NEEDED THEM. I DID IT ALL ON MY OWN.
>I totally could have taken Minago and her horde of demons at level 5 and not even a full set of magic equipment

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mythic paths ruined the game, they shoehorn you way too hard into an alignment

>>724968887
>you'll just get BTFO by Rovagug
literally everyone is going to bet BTFO by Rovagug, no matter the ending

>>724927480
Aeon's pretty fun mechanically too, if you don't mind being more of a support. The ability to just say "no" to anything any enemy can do is highly entertaining.

>>724970103
Swarm eats the cute dragon btw

>>724970852
This
You can literally eat babies as an angel and the story will still treat you like the goodest boy of them all

>>724970852
This
Every time I make a wotr character concept I have to somehow try to make it fit with the mythic paths which just doesn’t work
The extremely generic mythic paths in the actual ttrpg are way better, mostly being just "class but really, unusually strong" rather than super specific like angel or lich

>start of the game
>you are told you have to save kidnapped children from a dungeon but this is "fake urgency" you can just camp for days in the dungeon, giving the impression this is a game where the characters talk about urgency but not really you can relax and take your time
>nice.jpg
>you come out dungeon, first inn location, you are told that an attack is coming
>this time you actually have a time limit, only three days to prepare, and not managing correctly your time can result in permanently missing party members or getting locked out of endings
>even if you know everything in advance it's actually pretty tight to visit every location of missable content due to travel time between areas and it's especially tricky if you like spell casters who are more rest-addicted than warriors
>and and AND
>there is a fucking guy in the inn who offers to re-do your level up for free with a stealth cost of 24 hours
>the respect NPC is super friendly, they don't mention the time cost, they offer free service and if you select the option there is just a tiny notification of time having passed at the bottom of the screen, the clock just jumps ahead quietly in a very time-restricted first act, right after the first dungeon of the game does everything possible to convince you this game is lying about time limits
This is some next level mindfuckery. Why make respect cost time? If it breaks immersions to have re-training be instantaneous then why not make the respec NPC pop up after the attack on the inn? Yeah it means the feature becomes available slightly later but at least it skips on the mindboggling insanity of having a cheerful dude in the corner of the inn who offers friendly free service that eats 1/3 of your missable content time limit. This shit lives rent free in my head. And yes I know that the three days are technically "3 rests" and you even lose a rest if you press the rest button and then cancel. This does not help at all with the absurdity.

>>724973482
If those babies are evil and the angel is hungry then what's the problem?

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>>724963504
>eternally loyal
Doesn't she literally abandon you in hell?

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*hits pipe*

>>724975816
As soon as problems arise, she bails

>>724975816
>>724975930
She admits that she was butthurt about your success, but she didn't expect you to die or not come back from the Abyss. She waited months with the KC being gone before doing anything.

Literally the only reason she was waiting for you when you got back was because the time dilation from you planeswalking ended up causing the trip to take several times longer than what you experienced.

>>724976092
Cool excuses, whore.

>>724932351
>I found that to be a bit of an odd choice
How so? He tells you he would have been gutted in a ditch if his bulldyke diversity hire of a wife hadn't saved him and we just retcon'd Galfrey's jobs program for trouble youth.

>>724976092
>but she didn't expect you to die
doubt

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>>724976216
You think she sent the KC into the Abyss to die just so that she could then do a suicide assault on the Worldwound because she thought she lost the KC?

>>724975894
Greybor dabbing on Arue was entertaining. So was Daeran trying to bait her back into being a Succubus. I'm such a good commander for having them with her every time we go out

>>724976092
>sends you on what's probably a suicide mission to stop the crystals so they can win the war
>damn I didn't think the KC would actually die!
>oh well! i'll just leeroy jenkins the entire crusader army into Iz where Deskari is waiting to eat it!
>yeah that'll work!
Golarion's greatest monarch fr fr

>>724975894
I don't like when succ waifu is written as stupid. An assassin talks about putting her to sleep and her reaction is "I don't get your meaning but I sense hostility". Really now? She's supposed to be an ex-seductress, corrupter of mortals, a master backstabber turned double-traitor. Her class is espionage expert and that's her level of social skills? Just because she's the designated pure waifu doesn't mean she has to be written like a teenage airhead. Kinda lazy on writer's side idk.

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>>724976390
>bait her back into being a Succubus
Lads just wish better for her and try to shake off the MKDesna brainwashing. It's better for her in the long run. Gets success, gets bitches, gets power. Desna seething.
They even start a business together in a little trio partnership.

Post more wenduag the undisputed best girl.

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>>724976902

>>724975894
Greybor posting in the old threads was peak
Too bad no one's doing that anymore on 2025

>>724976859
She does that with almost every mortal, by comparison she almost immediately realizes that Mephistopheles isn't really an azata

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>>724976361
>what is regretting what she did
She let her jealousy take over and she sent you on your merry way to the abyss to die so she could take over, she soon enough realized that what she did was fucked up but it was already too late, you were already there alone with no back-up (outside of an angel that went there because he wanted to, not because she asked him to do it) and with every exit sealed off

>>724977118
>Greybor
I still don't get if he was written as a joke that didn't land, was intentionally made as a joke meant not to land or worse still, someone though he was cool

>>724927480
>I see the aura of your crimes
>lol fuck off
Dogshit game

>>724978094
He was 100% serious, his only intended fuck-up in-game was failing to kill Darrazand which is why half his questline is about fixing that. The writer just failed miserably and make him look like an incompetent clown

>>724976972
Kinda out of character? Even if we want to get into cuckshit it seems to me she should be into demon guys not celestial, her background is all about embracing demonic influence as a way to help her clan survive. She ate aasimar flesh as her first act of cannibalism, healer twink should be food-zoned. Or maybe she's trying to secure him as future snack with this conversation?

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>>724978285
>she should be into demon guys not celestial
The game has got you covered

>>724978019
Take over what? The only way to move forward was to stop the production of mythic demons. What sense does it make whatsoever to "take over" when there is a literal portal to the Abyss where demons that you currently have no means to defeat and have no means to figure out how to defeat without going there right below your feet. She wanted to take over so that she could pretend that the main objective she has currently doesn't exist? Also, she waited for the KC's return to, what, save face?
>Backup
As far as the Crusade has seen, you're the only person they have that can fight mythic demons and the only person that has a reasonable chance of surviving in the Abyss. Trying to actually invade the Abyss as an army would likely be the most retarded move anyone could possibly make just from the aspect of survival, but could easily result in unaffiliated demon lords also turning hostile.

>>724978094
he's cool but his class is just meh which kinda ruins his character.

>>724977118
I'm sure you can still find plenty of cuckfags on /vg/

>>724978891
>Take over what?
The crusade
Trying to use logic to explain her behavior is stupid when she literally had a woman moment, she was jealous, she wanted to get rid of you even if it didn't make sense, that's all. That's why she went out of her say to seal all exits instead of, for example, leaving them guarded and only closing them if the demons launched yet another invasion, she wasn't thinking straight, she was simply acting on impulse

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>>724929873
You're lawful, you can't acuse people without proof.

>>724950529
BUT SHE'S MY MOM!

>>724978094
>>724978945
I had the same problem with him. He talks like he's a big deal, he's a no-nonsense professional killer for a hire not an adventurer out there for having fun, he is introduced going invisible and one-shotting a demon captain in a cutscene, and you have to pay to recruit him in your party, so everything about this character says that he should be outstanding in battle.

But then he's just meh. And he continues to be meh in future scenes after his introduction. Even Woljif would be more believable as a professional that you'd pay thousands of gold for specialized stealth service rather than this guy.

>liking demon
>at a certain point in the story you must confront regill and lose him
>stop playing

what path should i do now

>>724979787
Regill carries the game so hard its not even funny.
He's like the best RPG companion of history. Just consistently BANGER after BANGERS of dialogue.

>>724979491
What? You don't like the master plan of
>oh we have to kill a dragon? uhhhhh let's just wait until it comes then we wound it, yeah

>>724976972
>>724978485
Truly the goldest of diggers.

>>724979142
>Leaving them guarded
With no idea of what could be coming through, which could very well be mythic demons? It's a portal straight to the Abyss. They're not going to be sending low level shitters through in response
>Closing if launching invasion
Why would they even know how to do that? They didn't close it in the current chain of invents. They simply caved the area in after the KC went through.
>Trying to use logic to explain her behavior is stupid when she literally had a woman moment
What else can you do when presented with an alternative that doesn't make any sense? I'd rather operate based off what we know of the situation and the actions and motivations of the characters involved over fanfiction that doesn't make a lick of sense to the extent that you have to rely on the characters not making sense during and after the event for your explanation to address all the contradictions.

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>>724979491
He's a melee Slayer, that's the problem.
If you play as a Lich and recruit Delemare, she'll be a ranged Slayer and work much better because of that.
Honestly, the only way to make Greybor usable is to build him as a off-tank, following the Freebooter or Ranger Demonslayer class. Have him focus on Kukris, pick that one with multiple elements in Areelu's lab, and use Elemental Barrage. THEN you'll have the assassin character he deserves.

>Gaybore's entire DLC6 event is him seething about how unpopular he is
Very subtle Owlcat

>>724979960
yeah, wound it and then track it. sounds like a good plan.

>>724979938
He's the character I point to people when they talk about how a Lawful Evil can work as a PC in a tabletop setting.

>>724980189
Almost as good as hitting a balor with a dagger because someone told you
>yeah that'll one shot him lol trust me bro
luckily for the midget your character is an overpowered mary sue so he didn't get burnt to a crisp

>>724979491
He's a weird mix of a tryhard and being comically inept despite the game insisting that he's a super cool, super elite and skilled hitman who'll teleport behind you the moment you let your guard down.
He legit feels like someone's deviant art OC.

Melee Bard or Archer Bard?

>>724980301
At least you can call him at being lame.
He won't like it everytime you do, but you can at least do it.

>>724980408
>everytime you do
You can only do it once though

>>724980360
Skald

>>724980451
I can remember 3 times you can do that.

>>724980360
Are you Dirge? If yes, Melee.
If not, ranged.

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>>724980360
>Class: Bard
>Deity: Asmodeus
>Mythic Path: Evil Azata to Devil
It's time to rock...

>>724980614
Dirge is just like Bard+ why can't Flame Dancer be gooder?

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>can return magically transformed soldiers into their original form
>can't do the same for the LYING DECEITFUL troon posing as a woman [i.e. DELIBERATELY defying the natural order]

That's how I knew this game is dogshit with dishonest writing.

>>724968887
>since you'll just get BTFO by Rovagug when he breaks free.
That applies to literally everyone in the setting outside of Pharasma and the Dark Tapestry.

>>724967317
I feel like most people liked the avenging angel flavor of angel, since it's not something most games offer these days (practical good vs 'if you kill me, you'll be just as bad as me! Ok I forgive you' good)
Anyway Aeon is cool but is forever marred by your inability to use Aeon powers on Anevia

>>724980926
If you're talking about the people from the volcano, simply using magic isn't against the the cosmic order. Corrupting people with power from other planes is.

>>724981317
You'd be right if it wasn't for the fact that Aeon spergs out at Galfrey's youth potions, which makes no sense
There is nothing more arbitrary than the Aeon aura, Regill should have one but he doesn't because Owlcat just went
>yeah well he'as a lawtard and this is the lawtard path so obviously he doesn't have one

>>724981405
>You'd be right if it wasn't for the fact that Aeon spergs out at Galfrey's youth potions, which makes no sense
Aeon spergs out about Galfrey's youth potions because said potions where only given because of her importance to her Crusade. If she isn't doing her job, then her access to potions should be revoked. I view it as the Aeon's personal lawfag viewpoint as opposed to the Monad actually interfering.

>>724978945
>his class is just meh
The hybrid fighter-thief class is meh? C'mon. His feat selection is what hobbles him. Fix that with toybox and he's solid.

>>724981636
>If she isn't doing her job
But she is doing her job, as bad as it may be. The dialogue option makes it clear that's not the case anyway
>Queen Galfrey, ruler of Mendev! Blinded by your pride, you sought to prolong your youth and lead the Crusade for all eternity! Your actions are a violation of human nature. Justice shall be restored
and what's funny is that he's wrong, Galfrey was given the potion by the church of Iomedae, she's not the one who made the choice

>>724981742
>>724978945
>>724980117
I really loved my Sword and Shield Deliverer Slayer in Kingmaker.

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We do a little bit of crime

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>>724979938
>in the Aeon ending his bleaching slowed down because you haven't discharged him

>>724982803
Regill will always be a bro no matter what

>>724983296
>no matter what
>can literally end up trying to kill you in his questline
He's never really your friend

>>724983347
Especially in those questlines. Real friends will pull a gun on you if you stray.

>>724982803
Doesn't his bleaching also get reversed in the clown ending due to the amount of cognitive dissonance it causes to him? I don't remember.

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>>724980972
>it's not something most games offer these days (practical good vs 'if you kill me, you'll be just as bad as me! Ok I forgive you' good)
People say this a lot but I honestly can't really remember the last time a game pulled it. AC2 is the only example I can really think of off the top of my head and even that's both more Ezio being done with him after shattering his life's work and, the better answer, them just handling the secret history part poorly rather than any moral spiel. I guess the Batman Arkham games are perhaps a given but even there he outright says he doesn't think some of the patients can be rehabilitated. I've also always seen capeshit heroes not killing as less of a 'you'll be just as bad' and more them holding themselves to impossibly high standards to inspire people, putting the super in superhero.

>>724966713
What was the first time?

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>>724927480
I wish I was a swarm

>>724983662
People really like to pretend it's this thing that happens all the time in fiction when it really isn't. Especially not in this game because angel of mercy still kills the vast majority of enemies

>>724983662
TLOU2 is probably the most recent, infamous example of it

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>>724983347
>Be a demon
>Consort with demons
>Accept gifts from demons
>Want to fuck demons (in the literal sense of the word)
>Try to establish a partnership with demons.
>Be a complete a dense motherfucker who get manipulated by demons.
>"Oh no, he wants to kill me!"
What the fuck did you expect, anon?

>>724984389
>no matter what

>>724983461
No, it just pisses him off and keeps him so busy his bleaching reverses.

Ironically enough Valerie does the whole "she stays loyal to you no matter what" shtick the best, because you can act like the most evil CE motherfucker around and she will STILL remain loyal to you at Nyrissa's funhouse, being the only companion to do so

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>Cleric Crusader
Human or Aasimar?

>>724927480
Aeon into Legend is honestly one of the better experiences just because of the expanded cast

>>724984754
aasimar are always faggots but humans are boring
hard choice but I guess human if those are the only choices

>>724984754
Always human

>>724984842
>expanded cast
what?

>>724983682
Probably regongar

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>>724927480
Last time I tried this game I was foolish enough to start the DLCs before the main campaign and they were so bad I got sidetracked and dropped it. Want to finish the campaign properly now, fuck the DLCs. Anyway, I want to make an Overlord type build. Lich is a must, Dhampir is probably closest to what I want but what's the most fitting class. Sorcerer would probably be op later on since undead scale health off of charisma but arcanist is probably closer to Ainz's class, right? Help me out, bros.

>>724984842
Demon is the ideal legend experience

>>724988515
Wizard

>>724989208
Yeah, from what I've read seems arcanist would be underpowered and wizard fits nicely so I'll go with that. Cheers

>>724927480
i liked the part at the start of the last act where all the demons show up and you tell them to
>go back
before sending them on a permanent vacation