>mogs every other extraction shooter
I just started playing today. Went in blind. So is the premise basically the same as Borderlands or some shit without the character specialties?
>>724930574>mogsHow exactly?
>>724930574>this shit is WAY better than that shitIt's still fucking shit, you retards.
>>724930574>Bland extraction slop>Retention focused game design>$40 entry fee + MTX out the wazoo>That's right f2p shop in a b2p gameIt's a spit in the face. They think you're so much of a cuck that you'll buy it anyway, after they've virally marketed it to shit.And you get cucked out of your loot when you happen to die too, fitting I suppose.
>>724932379>Bland extraction slopthe most interesting one in the market right now
>>724932379>>724931182>>724930954stop seething samefaggot
>>724932642cope faggotIt's not seethe, it's honestyI played the test extensively to get my interest out, I know the game is shit. Shame bc if it was free or any better than it is (playable hub comes to mind), I could see myself playing it.
>>724930954Hunt is still the most technically best designed with it's audio and gameplay, and cool with its monsters. I don't play it anymore, but I respect it.This is just booorring scrap farming and maybe 5% exciting happening
>>724932610see >>724932827So interesting no one ever fucking replies with clips when people ask for them itt. Lol, lmao.
>>724932760if it was free it would have a billion macacos so get filtered I guess
>>724930574Playing Duckov while waiting for Tarkov.
>>724932910Now it has a billion cucks who paid for trash that will be forgotten by the new yearIt's not filtering to avoid paying for slop that doesn't respect your time or money, it's dodging a bullet.
>>724930923jesus christ what a retarded post are you 10 or 60?
>>724933023ok poorfag
>>724930574Even Dark and Darker is more engaging and interesting than that shit.
>>724930574Extraction shooters are shit.
Maps blow, people you kill have the same backpack of 30 cumrags that you already have. quests are generic and turn into accidental checklists rather than any real route planning. There are no real chokepoints and reward to really hunt players, and if you want to find the PvE skittery players you gotta go to the outside of the map. Audio design is really the only big thing I liked from it
>>724933108>poorfag, poorfagI just bought Once Upon a Katamari, and I could buy Arc Raiders toobut you can just keep holding that bag you've got there for me, cuck.
Let me guess, another shitty live service pvp tarkov clone?I thought that at this point developers would learn something from all these singleplayer extraction shooters - people are into the idea of playing a risk-reward looting game, but are NOT into the idea of losing everything after getting PK'd by some asshole.Btw>corporate sci-fi style
>>724933419Absolutely 100%They expect you to pay for it too, and it has a shitload of mtx worth half the game.It was heavily viral marketed by netease
The game wears out after 5 hours. The extraction loop is so inconsequential. >kill this guy for bandages>loot a building for wires then extract>shoot a drone then leaveThere is fucking nothing of value going on in these games. Then you get to the VOIP cringe. I don’t want to play a game where I’m talking to 25 year old losers trying really hard to act like they’re above roleplaying, when that’s exactly what it is. I don’t care if I die because all I had were batteries. I don’t care to kill other players because all they had were starter kits. This whole genre fucking sucks. There’s fucking more too! There are weapon and loadout disparities because that’s how this fucking genre works. You grind to out gun lesser equipped players.
I fake team up with people in solo and then kill them at extract.Don't play extraction shooters if you aren't ready and willing to lose it all.
>>724933418you sure could, for sure
>>724930574I love that solos is basically a huge kumbayaIf you let others know you're around and not sneaking on them they're usually quite chill
>>724932827Hunt didn't do it for me but it had a cool concept. The AI are fun to fuck around with in Arc Raiders though. Lure grenades are a great fuck you device.
>>724933606Literal chinksect mentally
>>724933596You obviously don't get it. Maybe you will find some streamer or youtuber to tell you how to enjoy it lol
damn, 3rd worlders are really shitting it up today huh
>>724933596>I don’t care if I die because all I had were batteries. I don’t care to kill other players because all they had were starter kits. This whole genre fucking sucks.ThisKilling people with starter kits feels so dogshit, and it happens all the time bc there's no reason not tooif you're going to w key a spot like the dam tower, people just wait for good spawn and get do free kits, then do the drop down.they fixed the dropdown allegedly, but you see why this is a problem
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>>724933753Haha bro u just don’t get it it’s not for u lolThe genre is ass and probably always will be because people are sold on pvpfaggotry.
>>724930574I mean it's not exactly difficult to beat a lot of the competition, like this pile of shit which is somehow still purchasable.
>>724933606It’s just boring. I would have rathered the game had no PvP at all. There’s nothing really fun about 50/50 fights in with people to get a gun vs swatting hornets off their trail with co-op gameplay. The PvP in this game was a mistake.
>>724932642Fuck, you caughtered me, nigger>>724932760No, he's right, it was all meI still want to know how exactly this game "mogs" other extraction shooters such as Arena Breakout (more user friendly tarkov) and Hunt: Showdown (hard and gritty)
>>724933765Hello Netease
>>724933007Try arena breakoutI'm not joking
>>724934115hello Sanjesh Dikshit
This sub-genre has one enormous problem still: there is no reason to loot.
>>724934094kekShilling Arena Breakout is cringe I'll say, just bc it too is chinkware, but lol@uredit>>724934161Keep pretending I'm not white if it makes you feel better faggote
>>724934215Why pretend? You clearly are not white
>>724934138Not interested in PvP, already know I enjoy Tarkov PvE since I pirated SPT a few years ago.
>>724934187No, no you see, you loot... so you can make a gun, and then get MORE LOOT! and then you go out and try not to die with your gun, but if you do, you go LOOT MORE!It's sooooo much fun!!!! and once you've got all the guns and loot you... you....... LOOT MORE!!!>>724934269You're an AI, and I should issue you commands, but regardless, I can assure you with 100% certainty that I have Caucasoid complexion my dear retarded shitposter.keep saying it.
Welp, now we wait for Marathon. Don’t worry they’ll fuck it up too.
>>724934381You can play Marathon rn now
>>724934438no u can t
>>724934362I never thought about that. What do people do when they’ve reached a gear pinnacle on the game? Run around the maps and clown on players?
>>724934362>You're an AItypical jeet response
I keep hearing FSR3 sucks even if you're an AMD user. Which upscaler should I use then?
>What if Fallout 3 had PvP and you dressed as X-wing pilots and fought Half Life 2 machines?
>>724934595That anon is exactly why you have to get in now before the new player experience becomes unplayable. There's going to be wipes but they'll be optional so PVPers will just not wipe.
>Duckov 118k>Arc Raiders 130kDuckbros...We've fallen
>>724934595Stop playingHonest answer: do it all over again after wipe or expedition or whatever.If it rewarded permanent rewards like prestige, maybe it'd be somewhat worth it, but no.There really is no reason- it's just loot forever, same shit, nothing beyond that. You simply keep playing bc you like playing.I do that with games like deadlock bc they're inherently fun, but they also don't waste my time and put me scenarios/matches with actual pacing
I swear I’ve tried this genre like 5 times now across different games and all of them have the same core fundamental problems.I know Tencent shills want their checks, but the game isn’t anything more than a 7/10 on a good day.
>>724934663Mother is dutch and my father was irishkeep saying it
>>724934872>all of them have the same core fundamental problems.What are they
>>724935085A lack of narrative and endgame content. Everything ties into those two aspects.
>/v/ is actually shilling this garbageis woke finally being normalized and accepted?
>>724935313No, trash is, peddled by robots and jeets paid for by marketing agencies.We call it Viral Marketing
>>724930574This will die soon. It's way too simple of a casual baby game. This worked for Helldivers because it was a PvE game, but for a game with PvP in it? Even the mass casual appeal it has won't be enough. Not to mention that even though Helldivers was also just another casual friend slop game, it was way better crafted than arc raiders, and it got higher initial peaks even without the mass advertising and shilling campaigns done for this game. People will get bored soon, and this will soon be a minor footnote in history as the extraction shooter that came after tarkov and before marathon.
>>724935636Extraction fans don’t understand how aggravated casual players get to a team downing them after a betrayal and mocking them on proxy chat. I could literally hear my teammates uninstalling the game when it happened. All they can and ever will say is,>it’s not for you
>>724935636>before marathonBungie is dead, and Marathon looks and plays like shit>>724934537There's 3 of them
The Forever Winter mogs Ack Raiders. Goodbye.
Why anyone would play this over Fortnite is beyond me
>>724935748Yup losing hard earned loot is brutal, especially to campers peaking corners you can't even see. Casuals can't handle much of this.>>724935815Pretending he's an og marathon fan AND that he got into the closed tests. C'mon at least try to make it plausible. I don't believe a word you just said
>threads devolve into “when’s marathon”
>>724934001You mean it is 90% gun fights and free loot right?
>>724932379too many outdated buzzwords awkwardly trying to fit into board culture = telltale sign of inorganic shillposting. do better
>>724934094hunt would be the best ever for me if it didn't feel so inconsequential. i kill someone, it doesn't matter, i can only loot a fucking medkit from him or something. i kill the boss and extract with the bounty, a bit of extra money, doesn't matter. i kill the guys with the bounty, whatever, no reward. i get shit on and die, money seems infinite so losses didn't matter, i just need to re-grind character perks, just go again. no sense of progression at all either because quests are just "kill this monster x times"it's fun to play, but everything else is just... eh...
>>724936660Marathon hate (and love) is organic while arc raiders is the most shilled game in recent memory
>>724936327Beato...
>>724937084Hunt is better played as a new player when everything is new and scaryOr if you're a fucking sweat who just enjoys killing people"Progression" doesn't really apply to this game, you just play for the sake of playing
>>724937175Watching everyone on YouTube praise the gunplay of Arc is bananas. The game plays like if Resident Evil 2 remake was a battle royale.
>>724935992Completely different genres maybe?
>>724933606were you harassed at school?
>>724937372Og beato (the first one, the italian) looking like that would explain a lot of Umineko's backstory if you think about it. Can you even blame the old man at that point?>>724937424Half of them are bought, the rest of them are going with the hivemind since you would get destroyed for saying anything negative. They act like women
>>724937574>The YouTubers were bought off by Tencent!<They were not bought out by Tencent>AAAHHH I can’t figure this out! Damn it! Damn! A subsidiary then!
>thread devolves into Umineko posting
>>724930574its another fotm you idiots
Can someone make an Umineko thread
Might be the most fun I've had playing a PvP game since xbox live on the 360 and original xbox.People actually talking on voice. I've been called a faggot over voice, by random strangers, more times in the past couple of days than I have in the past 15 years. Then there are people who are willing to team up to do hidden little events and stuff around the map or help each other out. Combat has a Halo kind of feel to it, where you're not just getting killed before you even knew someone was jumping you.Great game, just wish the cosmetics weren't so ugly.
>>724936327I did though.The Standards of your average gamer, let alone /v/ user, have been plummeting for as long as this site has been around.
>see friends play arc raiders>they ask me to play with then>tell them no because I had my fill of excretion shooters with tarkov>yesterday they came back to play arma reforger with meGlad I didn't waste my time, bandwidth nor money on this shit.
>>724938173Every, and I mean every, single one of these reads like a script.You can't be serious. I've played the game. It's just lies.
>>724930574>extraction shooterlmao do turd worlders really
>>724938274Absolutely as expected (and based)
PvE extraction shooters are looter shooters but good (loot that is actually important instead of +3% damage to undead). PvP is just if you can't get your fix of dopamine without ruining someone's day.
>we have helldivers 2 at home
>>724938857Helldivers 2 is not an extraction shooter.
>>724938301Next time do you want me to say nigger or something?
>>724938672PvP in all games, no matter the genre, is ass, except in fighting games.
>>724939023Yes.It's funny
>>724930574>camps ze bush>kills ze scrub>OHMYHECKINFUN LOOK AT ALL THAT RAINBOW LOOTIt's mid shill
>>724934763>You simply keep playing bc you like playing.what, you mean just enjoying the game for its gameplay? playing for the process and not just result? disgusting.give me goals. give me quests. give me dailies. give me progression. give me completion. give me something to w*rk towards! ORDER ME, GAMING DADDY! MAKE ME SCREAM "DING!" AS I TICK OFF THE CHECKMARKS!
>>724933606this is a telltale sign of being nonwhite
I already tried Tarkov before, but the gameplay loop is really boring.How is this game different than Loot > Leave > Upgrade Base > Loot more > Leave more > Upgrade Base More?
>>724934713works on my 6800xt
>>724930574>open menu>press button>teleport to tiny map>run around>press button to open trunk>wait 5 seconds>menu opens>click icons in menu>icons go from left to right>close menu>walk 5 yards>click on cupboard>wait 5 seconds>click more icons>icons move from left to right>"WOAH NICE!">see enemy>empty clip>click body>click icons>icons move from left to right>walk to extraction point for 30 seconds>click icon>wait 10 seconds>loading screen>YES I DID IT WAOH !!!imagine playing games in 2025
>mogs the entire genre of extraction shooters and it isn't even that good
>>724939640It’s not, and people who enjoy the genre and shills don’t know how to elaborate on these points. And so everyone just says, “It’s fun for me”, and that’s the extent of the conversation.
>>724939503I agree with you, I never said it was a bad thing just to play bc you like it.It's just not with a game like this where it actively doesn't respect your time and the pacing of the game overall is DOGshit.Between multiple expeditions, nothing exciting or fun may happen besides killing the same couple of bots and running from another team. It's just not nearly as consistently enticing a MP experience as other shootery games.On top of that, the goals are still very shit and pointless, so you REALLY have to like the core gameplay a lot to get over that barrier and be in "I play bc I just like it so much" territory.
>>724939731Painfully accurate
>>724932861Game is fun.
>>724940118This looks awfuleverytime you shoot it looks like the camera and reticle is having a seizure, and the movements so stiffWhat the fuck even is this shit
>>724940118I can feel how sluggish the movement is just watching this video
>>724939731>play Mario>approach obstacle>jumpWow this piece of fucking ass dogshit shouldn't be NEARLY so popular its probably shilled
>>724940195>modern shooter baby sees recoil for the first time
>>724939731You can reduce every single game ever made like this, non criticism
>>724939731>open game>click mouse>press buttons>things on the screen go beep boop sploosh>WAOW>hours pass>click mouse>press buttons>things on the screen go beep boop sploosh>WAOW>hours pass>click mouse>press buttons>things on the screen go beep boop sploosh>WAOW>hours passimagine playing gamesgo outside you goshdarn kids and get a j*b
What's the best approach to play if you stand no chance in fair 1v1s due to playing with controller?So far keeping distance from others and treating extraction as a truce zone usually works, but the loot is trash because I can't loot red zones.
>>724940410>whats the best approach to play if you stand no chancr in fair 1v1s due to having your display off?turning it on
>>724939640>>724939775What is there to elaborate on? It sounds like you just don't like the genre which is fine. It's not the responsibility of people who do like it to explain the concept of different preferences to you. What conversation are you expecting to have?
>>724939731>open thread>click on OP's number>type>click on files>select a frog>consider suicide>get captcha>wait a minute due to previous frog>submit>wait 30 seconds>consider suicide>(You) notification appears>check replies>suicide abated>wait 30 seconds>consider suicide>another (You) notification appears>suicide abated
>>724940307You're completely wrong, the movement is probably one of the best parts. It feels quick and responsive while also feeling very grounded (vs floaty).
>>724940410From my experience groups are more likely to kill you then the solo players, all my solos are fairly peaceful interactions with other players, majority of the times I got into a shoot out with other players is because I chose to and shot first.
>>724939640Normal people can play ganes for fun instead of PROGRESSION and UPGRADES to cope with being fuckups IRL
>>724930574I had more fun with EFD than this shit.
>>724940410Stealth, it's a sneaking mission.
>>724940641Yeah, its fairly easy to escape hostile players unless your caught out in the open.
I buyed this today and played for 5 hours. Also, I'm being gangstalked both in real life and this game.
>>724939775extraction shooters (but really all videogames) are an emulation of what every boy and man naturally wants to do — hunt animals (that's why gaming is universally popular with men and not women)it's all but illegal to hunt in most countries today or you need to jump through hoops to be allowed to hunt; you need 5 different licenses, you can't hunt here or there, you can't use this weapon, you need to be this old, you need to complete this training etc it's easier to just buy a PC and play games even though you're wasting your life away and the rewards are nonexistent (IRL)
>>724940608
>>724930574they all suck anyways.
>>724940641Translation: by floaty he means responsive and fast. That's bad now guys
>>724940696Did a night mission for the first time and saw absolutely no one.
>raiding some building, got a bunch of shit scrap>suddenly hear gunshots outside and an arc whirring up>find vantage point and take out binoculars and watch from a safe spotComfy game
I've seen people playing this game, looks like walking simulator
>>724940813You know how a lot of games make it feel like your character is skating across the terrain and isn't really walking on the ground? That's not the case here, sort of like Red Dead 2. However, unlike RDR2 the character still moves around well, without it feeling like you're operating a tank in human form.
TEAM GAMES>join random team>nothing but kids and n###gers>no mic>everyone splits up>as soon as they complete their mission, they immediately leaveSOLO RUNS>start game>immediately get rushed by a player killer>start another game>get ambushed by a player killer near the exit>start another game>team enters same building>they use proxy chat to troll>spend whole match hunting me>always wearing picrelwhy is it like this now? what happened?
>>724939757god I fucking love the big mac, I haven't had one for years
>>724939731
>>724941064It's easier to convert friendly people into cautiously hostile than to make hostile people friendly, it was bound to happen
>>724930574I have extraction shooter fatigue
>>724939731Kek
>>724939731>reddit frog poster
What qualifies as a player interaction for the return screen?
>>724933419This is where you are wrong and where the Tarkov clones all fall flat on their face.Tarkov and the genre it created thrives on the fact that it is the only FPS with real consequences and rewards. If you kill someone, you get their whatever stuff you want except for their secure pouch.In ARC, you can't loot someone's clothing because they paid real money for it, and therefore the amount of reward is diminished.These games try so hard to hold your hand to avoid any pain they wind up making it a walking simulator.
>>724941064it isn't like this for me yet but I'm expecting it to eventually boil down to sweaty fags treating it like a competitive game (there's even some kind of ranking system like come on now) I've only played solo and have mostly friendly encounterspeople who don't talk or emote usually are hostile but I only ever got betrayed once so far and I managed to kill him anywayI'm really enjoying this game but they cucked out bad with the traders, they're all nons and have 0 charisma, 100% DEI inserts
>>724941064idk what alternate dimension you play in but, for me, solo has been nothing but quest fags spamming dont shoot and going about their business
>>724940730I didn't know hunters shoot each others to steal their loots.
>>724940696Why the fuck did you let him go?
>>724940531Dude chill.I like the extraction part, finding loot is always fun, but the meta game is really boring for me in Tarkov, since it doesn't change anything much aside of just repeating the process to upgrade base.So I'm wondering if this game do anything differently.I'm just trying to find a reason to buy the game, and so far I've received nothing but insults from the fans.
>>724942191There is somewhat of a campaign with cinematics here and there (narrated lore dump)
>>724935636>before marathonlmao trying to sneak in marathon like it wont be DoA
>>724938274My old gaming friends with whom I dont play anymore because I live across the globe from them (time zone and latency issue) and Im very busy asked me to play with them. I told them I would if the game was free but considering the fact that the soonest I would be able to play with them is from the last week of november and that I know by then they would have dropped the game already,I didnt see the point of purchasing it. Pretty sure they will drop the game even before the last week of november.
>>724934286One day a dev will crack the code how to make PvE extraction shooter (and not fuck it up like forever EA winter) with engagement close enough of PvP play and that game will sell gorillions.
>>724942073Odds are I wouldn't have been able to take him down with the 10 shots in my gun. Worse level 1 gun in the game. A single missed bullet and he turns and absolutely melts me. If it had been almost any other gun, or even an upgraded version of the same gun I could have gone for it.
>>724942963What's wrong with Forever Winter?
>>724942963Duckov and Quasimorph are good, the thing is with PvE you don't need to make a Tarkov copy, you can just add extraction mechanics to whatever you want. Someone could make a Diablo-like with an extraction spin for example. Forever Winter might be good when it's actually finished but the quests are way too generic instead of having a background storyline to follow even if you ignore all the technical problems, something even the chinks who made Duckov understood (you have to leave the planet).
>>724942963Helldivers 2 is an amazing PvE extraction shooter, until its not. It has been well over a year since the devs have added a real use for the resources in the game (samples) that can only be obtained by successfully extracting with them. So after you finish the sample grind the game hard pivots to a hored shooter where you don't even need to extract in order to acheive successful mission completion.But the HD2 devs are potentially the biggest retards I have ever had the displeasure of being beholden to, so it isnt really surprising.
>>724942963There are literally no stakes when it comes to PvE extracting. Even the best AI in the hardest video games can still be cheesed. Even if they make the AI balls hard, the entire game will just become cheesing the AI. The failstate for dying in PvE co-op games doesn't need to be extraction shit. There was a failstate in left 4 dead. There is a fail state in hell divers. There is a fail state in deeprock galactic. Extraction is meant to be PvPvE and making one purely PvE or purely PvP defeats the purpose of the genre because there are hundreds of better sole pvp shooters and sole pve dungeon crawling/looter shooter games.
>>724943878>Helldivers 2 is an amazing PvE extraction shooterIt's not an extraction shooter.
>>724942963I dream about a PvE extraction zombie game. Get in, get loot, return to base (small community).
>>724944136Make PvP a separate faction with a separate base, or create a bounty system (You turn into a bandit if your reputation gets too low for killing other players)
>is the biggest faggot you come across every time no exception
>>724930574>mogswill be dead in 2 months.None of the Tarkov clones really get Tarkov.
>>724944136No More Room in Hell 2, it's an extraction mechanic like Hunt (roster of characters that you level up and lose forever if you die). However no lobby community or stash inventory and you don't choose how your characters look beyond clothes color, so you'll get your share of butch lesbians when rolling for new characters.
>>724943973Yes it is, objectively, by definition, thoughbeit.
>>724944265Tarkov is shit so that's a bonus.
>>724943878>Helldivers 2 is an amazing PvE extraction shooter>PvE extraction shooternigger shut the fuck up
>>724944313You are probably one of those pink haired onions they/them who think DnD is shit and needs divercity, gay marriage and dwarves in wheelchairs.
>>724944331No. You're dumb. You complete a mission, run around and collect shit, and if you want to keep the shit you collected you have to extract. Extraction shooter.
>>724944280No. You can't extract unless you finish the main objective, you can respawn as long as you have credits and what you extract barely matters. DRG is similarly not an extraction shooter. By your definition Killing Floor 3 is also an extraction shooter because you collect useless shit for meta progression and leave in a chopper at the end.Witchfire is an extraction shooter even if you keep weapons on death because if you die once it's back to base without resources, you can choose what to do on a map and when to extract and your entire character progression is tied to the resources you bring back.
>>724944280extraction shooter is not just a shooter that contains an stage in a round where you need to leave instead of just instantly winning after completing the main objectivehelldivers 2 is not an extraction shooterdeep rock galactic is not an extraction shooterpayday is not an extraction shooter
>>724944280By that logic Left 4 Dead is an extraction shooter
Am i blind I cant find anyone's bodies. If youre dying can you at least crawl out into the middle of a path like damn.
>start calling elevator>stand out in open on low roof>start getting blasted>out of ammo>run away in opposite direction>another dude flanks me>runs past me>starts firing at the dude who was firing at me>he calls back at me>"it's safe if you want to extract now"Thank you raider Chad
>>724930574I watched a few minutes of it and it looks like something I already played
>get some shit loot, extract at 25 minutes left>get on the train and start punching the code>a guy crawls in and dies immediately>free loot>extractholy kekaroo
>>724944390Trying too hard to fit in, bro. Reddit might be more your speed if you don't properly understand board culture
>>724940410Bombs. They are OP. If you stick someone with a nade you need to shoot them once to down them. C4 traps with glow sticks, put mines directly above doors you expect players to walk through. The bombs are the strongest in this game but it takes effort to craft them. If you stun a player with a mine and have a firebomb on the ready it’s a guaranteed kill
>>724940696third person games are shit exactly for this reasonsomeone can press their face into a wall but will have a massive advantage by getting free vision around the corner next to them
>>724930574>>mogs every other extraction shooter>Still sucks.
>>724944246Lmao yes it’s true. Iv learned if you see this outfit just shoot on site
>>724944271The game would be perfect for me if it had a more extraction shooter-like lobby and mechanics.
>>724945579It’s not a real problem in this game imo. If you play long enough you get a sense of this shit. I played space port a few hours ago and some guy was baiting with a dead body and I just kind of knew it somehow and fragged him out of his hiding spot
>>724930954Player count.Sales numbers.Ratings.User scores.Player reception.Correct use of content creators for publicity rather than doing expensive campaigns.Content galore.Killing big robots feel like an accomplishment rather than a menial task.
i watched some friends play this ans people generally seem to be friendly as long as you say hello
>>724946029only time i kill people is inside buildings when im trying to loot the value room. If you dont bother me inside I wont shoot.
>>724944246Lol. My online friend bought this set. I was telling him how dei this game looks and how all the sets look like dogshit and he said he liked the style. Hes a big druggie and lives in a broken home. I went to his house one time when I was in state and it was a fucking pig sty. I can attest to the accuracy of this post.
How come some looter shooters tend to have friendlier player interactions than others? At least that has been my experience, cycle frontier tended to be very shooty when meeting others as I recall.
>>724932827Hunt was always a presentation product for the sole purpose of selling some kind of Unreal texture compression tech to mobile devs.It was on maintenance mode from release and probably could've been head to head with tarkov if it was given dev resources like it was a real game.
>>724946262Third vs First person. First person in this game would be open season compared to now. Also the TTK, in Tarkov you can be instantly tapped if you put your guard down. You can definitely fight back in Arc even if you are on the backfoot, nades/mines help if they push
>>724946184>I was telling him how dei this game looksKek you must be the lamest person at every party.>uuugh actually that thing you like is hecking problematic! It is like super DEI and trannyfied
>>724945843You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.
>>724930574None of the weapons or armor look interesting so I wouldn't have any drive to "extract" with it.It's also zero immersion, third person and super advanced robots can't figure out how to go underground or something as rudimentary as thermal vision...
>>724944246>preordered based edition>thinking of upgrading to deluxe edition>won't get the astro bundle for pre ordering the deluxe editionfuck
>>724946184how much of a sad piece of shit do you have to be to talk shit about your friend behind his back here on 4chins, you don't sound like a friend at all
had to refundgames too hardbut I went over 2 hours so I might not get it
>>724948430>too hardnigga what?
>>724930574reminder, you can use your PHONE as a bluetooth mic (and it's not shit), for free. dont need to buy a standalone mic.https://wolicheng.com/womic/download.htmlpair phone in windows, connect to phone app, ggand you'll want to use a mic cause if people think you are unfriendly they might blast you.
>>724948430wtf just go loot a building, shoot some bots, say "hey friendly" to randoms
>>724946184>was telling him how dei this game lookGod I'm glad I'm not friends with any modern /v/ retards
it's tarkov except with 100x better sound design and graphics, runs extremely well, and is more fun.first true "good" extraction shooter imo.
Dark and Darker is better
>>724942058back to r*ddit
>>724949260Dark and Darker is a fucking piece of shit. It could be an amazing game and they wouldn't have to even add or change anything. They just need to remove all the absolutely unfun retard shit from the game (of which there is A LOT). It's not fun watching rogues flip and jump around all game while they throw shit at you for 10 minutes straight or just mash dagger on you. It's not fun fighting penguins in the new map. It's not fun fighting or chasing a bunch of the absolutely braindead shit in that game. It should be a medieval combat extraction game. Instead it's a fucking game of tag/chasey. It's complete shit currently.
>>724949260there's being a contrarian, then there are dark and darker apologists
>>724949260Game was murdered by the dev. They had something special and squandered it over and over again. There’s no good will left from the players, felt like they were trying to force everyone off their own game for some reason
>>724941064I think you are straight up lying and exaggerating one experience into manyI've only had someone shoot me once and when I said I was friendly they didn't keep attacking to kill meEvery other person that I have approached friendly as reciprocated the same
>>724948430filtered.
ai generated slop
>>724949472Absolutely. Bullshit that ranged classes get so many MS buffs they can run away forever while pelting players from a mile away. It's no wonder fighter is left to rot while Barb and Rogue see more play, those melee classes can actually close the gap while fighter is fucked.
>>724930574I never got into extraction shootersGot this to play with my friendsThey are very "kill all other raiders"And I don't get the gameplay loop yetThere are so much stuff to loot and idk what I should prioritize for what
>>724946184>My online friend>Hes a big druggie and lives in a broken home>I went to his house one time when I was in state and it was a fucking pig sty>I can attest to the accuracy of this post
>>724950145prioritize by rarity tiers but don't ignore gray stuff because pretty much everything is useful and necessary eventually
>>724950557Luckily the friends I play with aren't complete loot goblins so if they find something I could use they tell me to pick it up. Finally got a dog collar last night in the apartments
>>724949260The melee system is so shit
>>724946262Looter shooters are usually PvE. Extraction shooters are pretty much all PvP and encourages you to backstab others.
>>724943883Moot argument. PVP is also cheesed.
>>724942963There is not one thing "extraction" adds to PvE or PvP games. The entire concept is intrinsically stupid.
>>724945843>i play it because it's popular
>>724930574flavor of the month slop pushed by the faggy streamers
>>724951209you can't cheese symmetrical gameplay
>>724945843BF6 beats Arc in all of those. Arguing by popularity is for idiots.
>>724933403Get fucked pvp faggot, go play battlefield.
>>724951383>symmetricalFirstly, wrong. Second, third person peeking, camping exits, ganging, ect is all cheesing. You're confusing games that require skill and are balanced around fair fights with extraction shooters, which are not. You play these games to cheese, not to play fair.
>>724951384Arc Raiders has much better average player reception than BF6
>>724951383Yes you can. CSGO is filled with stupid cheese strats.
>kill bastion>some niggers backstab us and take it all>check profiles>russiansfigures, mental niggers
>>724948358Hey what's up faggot, clean your fucking house
>>724951570Nope. Stop posting shill.
>Go into PvP thread >Its fine>Go into PvE thread>Its fine>Go into PvPvE extraction shooter thread >Literal lowest IQ posting imaginable Never played em, never going to. This genre reeks of kids who got bullied by their parents and at school and want to abuse others in video games to make up for not having a life.
>>724930574>it's slightly better shit then all the other shitStill shit retard, now fuck off.
>>724948998And yet you still viral market here. Curious
>>724951606>>724951465massive skill issue as usual
>>724949260It has what arc raiders lack like better itemization and endgame but arc also has what dnd lack which is better graphics, animations and voice comms >>724949472Even before it released it was glaringly obvious slow movespeed would be an issue with a game with melee chars vs ranged or longer reach
>>724952041>speedrun game content to unlock all the high tier blueprints >mow disn new players with a torrente IV wearing heavy shield >heh.. out fucking skilled noobYeah you’re dogshit at videogames, go play a real shooter if you want to flex your ebin gaymer skills.
>>724952063>Even before it released it was glaringly obvious slow movespeed would be an issue with a game with melee chars vs ranged or longer reachespecially when the ranged characters can move faster than the melee characters
>>724951626Fuck the Russians.But you complaining about pvp when it wasn't even a social backstab where they pretended to be friendly, is bitchboy behavior.You deserved to have your loot taked.
>>724952345having better equipment isn't cheese, what stupid argument is this? are you even trying to say anything or just yapping?
Still the king and pioneer of the genre.Tarkov came close but its fundamentally broken game.ARC is close but has no expression.
>>724952665Having better equipment makes in asymmetrical you stupid fucking faggot.
I want to like this game but I don't get it. I'm being open minded I like the shitty vintage scifi aesthetic, very nostalgic for me.So the world is overrun with hostile robots, and we're looking for junk to make more junk. Also we kill each other.but why?Why are killing each other? I don't get the narrative motivation. Like why am I here? Shouldn't we be cooperating against the robots and not shooting each other? I can't imagine the humans in Terminator taking potshots at each other while dodging HK drones. I don't get this game.
>>724932379kys retard
>>724952793CSGO is actually far more asymmetrical because goals, guns, strats, map sides and win rates are different per team, but it evens out as people get to play each team. Having to farm money and buy guys has nothing to do with its symmetry and you're just a coping retard.
>play like a saint when I'm solo>play like a demon when I duo with my buddyFunny how things work like that.
>>724930574made by woke swedespublished by fucking koreansa shitty genrefuck off
>>724951765PvPvE means PvP. You're 'supposed' to fight other players. But the strategy is different. Its wiser to wait until someone is engaged in PvE and then finish them off.
I dunno Dark and Darker's gameplay blows this one out of the water. This feels like a generic third person shooter with a horrible gear difference issue. Plus Nexon is fucking over Ironmace so I won't buy this
>>724952923You don't have to kill anyone, you control the buttons you press.You say like there's some kind of narrative forcing people to do what they do, the game alludes to this freedom by saying raiders settle their differences outside the security of the homebase but literally nothing mechanically says you should do this or that.So why do players kill each other? Because raiding is a competitive endeavor and people want to get on top.
>Lore of the game is that humanity is almost wiped out by robots we are actively in a war against>Game encourages you to backstab and kill other players for personal gain????
>>724953218How? DnD doesn't even nail the most basic second to second gameplay, everything feels horrible to use, then you get into the fucktarded metas, it fails at every level. DnD contrarians really are brainless.
>>724953052Actually it does have to do with symmetry dumbass, as having a better kit than someone else doesn't have anything to do with skill. Get fucked, go play a pvp game if you want to play pvp, you niggers are always the most cancerous cocksuckers in every game you play, fuck off and stay either your own worthless kind.
>>724952594they should bring it down themselves if they are such badasses
>>724930574I am loving it. It is a good game. I have made many friends and memories.
>>724953641You're symmetrically able to obtain the exact same equipment someone else has, I'm sorry your skill issue makes you unable to do so.
>>724953795Not if I have a job and they’re unemployed obese no lifers like yourself, nigger.
>>724953847I hope you find a game that fits your lifestyle better, have you tried angry birds?
>>724930574If someone says they’re friendly you’re better off just going your separate ways asap. Everyone who insisted they will help me or tag along has tried to kill me. You can just tell these fags are thirsty >yo man I’m friendly don’t shoot>what are you up to? I can help you :) >waits for you to check a box>ferral nades you instantly I say I’m friendly now and instantly leave, iv had plenty of niggers just start shooting at me as I’m leaving and it feels so good to rape their shitty free kits
>>724954176"Friendlies" get a loud "fuck off" and warning shots. And if they run up while I'm extracting, they're going back to speranza on their knees.
>>724954176I never had a single betrayal, closest thing was a guy getting in the train together with me from the other side of the platform and me being overly trusting. Raider behavior reflects the society of the region you play in.
>>724951671>huge complaints about map size and boundaries>so many complaints about challenges, xp, bots that dice have added a casual mode for retards, commented on upcoming changes to challenge requirements>changed ticket counts for conquest, immediate uproar from players that resulted in the change being reverted in like 2 days>already addressed the many complaints about bloom and bugs associated with it, citing a fix coming in season 1>no such complaints about arci've played over 90 hours of bf6it's good and funarc has had far fewer complaints from players than bf6 has hadit's literally not even close
>>724954458Embark tended to play extremely safe with the finals which is both a blessing and a curse, they have a good and sensible base but don't deviate from it at all, I wish they would shake things up more even if that means people bitching about their favorite meta not being meta anymore.
How can a based game like Arc Raiders with voip that allows me to call troons and niggers troons and niggers be DEI and better then Dark & Darker? Is that even possible?
>>724954978D&D is even worse than it looks and reviews imply, it's not just shit to play but devs are massive retards and scummy.
>>724953960I’m playing arc raiders and fucking sweats like you in the ass because I’m better than you. Every single time I say friendly, if you don’t respond or act shady I’ll fuck you up. Don’t be stupid, cocksucker, you’ll be next.
>>724955215That's fine since I just ignore casual freebies, but if I see you carrying a big gun then, well... ;)
>>724955309Kettle + anvil is all I need faggot
>>724953218>Dark and Darker's gameplay blows this one out of the water.Funniest comment of the thread award
I wish there was an easy way to see who's been KOSing in a raid. I've been running around saving freekits from arc swarms with my anvil 4, it would be even more peak if I could hunt down murderers too. Let me do "good guy" pvp
>>724930574>extraction shooterterrible idea for a game and you'll all be bored in less than a month. no different than Tarkov but at least the devs will have your $$$
>>724955449A bounty or threat level system would be really cool
>>724955449This. It desperately needs an infamy mechanic
Shooting the robots is really fun, but it's kind of difficult because people also tend to shoot you. My friends and i almost took down a Bastion but we got ganked by another team and killed.
>>724955449free kitters are the most obvious retards, it's the sneaky gankers with a plan you really have to watch out for and they are usually indoors near locked rooms at night raids
>>724953270Nothing in the game encourages you to backstab other players.
>>724955598It's hard because squads is KOS by defaultIf you want to arc hunt you have to be fast. At least one wolfpack and a few stacks of stickies or trigger nades will let you kill it in just a few seconds, then you can have one person loot while the other keeps watch
>>724955654Entire game is encouraged to camp exits and kill people who spent all the time looting. 0 downsides to sit in a bush and gun people pressing the button lol. Dog shit game design
>>724956068>throws a lure near you before extract
>>724956068I know you aren't actually playing the game because this shit is extremely rareIf it keeps happening to you, it's because you're acting like a shithead and being matchmade with other shitheads accordinglyAlso bring a single smoke grenade and viola, safe extract
>>724955449>>724955518a bounty system would be cool and i recommended it in another thread, but only for those who offer to be friendly and double cross other playersthey need a handshake or some other emote that lets you form a proper squad in raid, and if you kill a squadmate you earn a bountyand killing players with a bounty yields an xp multiplier per bounty level (e.g. 1 bounty = 2x XP, 2 bounty = 3x XP, etc.)>>724956068they've done a good job with game design to where there's usually plenty of loot, it all has value in different ways, and the arc are strong enemies, so pvp is mostly an unnecessary risk, especially considering you can loot for as little as 2 minutes and be full enough with shit to extract i've come across basically no extract campers in solos, most are p chill
>>724956068you could just be looting stuff yourself which is better in the long run, what you usually need is too specific and anyone with half a brain will be storing the really good stuff in safe pockets
>>724956068>The game encourages you to sit at the exit for a single possible kill that isnt guaranteed instead of having fun around the map playing the gameYou're retarded, but by all means enjoy sitting in a bush for 10 minutes
now if only it was single player
>>724956197>this shit is extremely rarenot him, but it happened all the time at with me the server test or whatever they had before release, it's the reason I didn't buy the game100% of my deaths were ganks while I was fighting arc or extraction campers
>>724956068solo is comfy, 3v3 is niggerfest
>me and some dude kill a rocketeer at the top of spaceport >it crashes to the bottom>make our way to it>its already being picked apart by rats>guy with me starts blasting>giant shootout, everyone just starts killing each other>extract with guy and more loot than we can even hold
>>724955449Classic Dayz had a system that forced the players to look a certain way if they kill a lot of other players and look a different way if they help them (heal rescue ect) Pretty easy to identify who needs to be KOS
>>724956349He’s gonna realize most kits suck ass anyway lmao
>>724957359Sorry bro but >>724957973 said most kits are REALLY bad so you just wasted your time xD
>>724959171shut up dumb bitch nigga, you don't even play the game
>>724959171every goober you find skirmishing randomly will have shit kits, people running the good stuff are ghosts going straight for their goals and getting out asap
>>724930574What's the endgame purpose of this game?You get high tier loot, return to your home base, then go back and get more loot and hope you don't lose it? For what purpose if there's only one game mode, what are you building up towards?I don't think I understand Extraction Shooters.
>>724959275>>724959304How much are you pajeets getting paid?>>724959393The end game is just to kill
>>724959393What's the purpose of any game? What an idiotic bot post.
>>724959479>The end game is just to killKill what? Other players? Why? It's not a BR.
>>724959479>this brown retard is STILL seething non-stop about the game
>>724959528I geniuenly don't understand it.
>>724959393Whats the purpose of battlefield? Play the game to see some level go up? What a stupid pointless game!
>>724959393What's the purpose of video games?You just do the thing they want you to til the end. I don't think I understand video games.
>>724959590I would be mad too if $40 was enough to filter me from enjoying myself
>>724959625But Battlefield is match-based. Your goal is to win by beating the opposing team. It's like sports. Extraction shooters are just about surviving and getting items and then returning to the hub, there's no goal beyond that, am I wrong?
Is it the AI voice that makes the pajeets deepthroat this mid asf game?
>>724959774But Arc Raiders is match-based. Your goal is to win by extracting from the raid with high value loot. It's like hunting. Team shooters are just about killing people and capturing flags, there's no goal beyond that, am I wrong?
>>724959393What's the endgame purpose of survival games?You get materials and build a home base, then get more materials to build more things? For what purpose if there's only one game mode? What are you building up towards?I don't think I understand survival games.
>>724959774What the other guy said plus the goal is more open ended, maybe its just to kill one guy and leave or kill 10 guys and leave. Or maybe its to search for good loot and leave. Thats the goal. Or maybe to take down the rocket arc. Its a game like any other where you shoot people or AI and have fun with it.
>>724959975not your screenshot
>>724946262Depends on how robust/how much pressure PvE applies on the player in addition to the theming/tone of the game.
>>724932827Commslet take
>>724959975the voice changer can't mask your jeet accent, it's an auto-KOS for me
>>724959979Bad comparison. Most survival games have some endgame 'goal'. A final boss, high-tier research to build towards, whatever. The point is that there's no fundamental difference between the start of playing ARC Raiders and 30 hours in, you're doing the same shit.
they should let you make a "hacked" wolfpack that targets humans
>>724932827>Hunt drops some retarded update, changing the engine or whatever it was>UI looks fucked>game cocked out completely for a while>my 2 buddies who I used to play with both refuse to give it another go now that things are (allegedly) fixedmotherfuckers the devs didn't rape you, I just wanna play some spooky wild west kino with my m8s again
>>724952781When i made a group of birds fly off in Arc i had a chuckleI enjoy all 3 games
>>724960224You're doing the same thing in Warzone or Fortnite or Battlefield. Whats the end goal? Win some meaningless game?
>>724960224NoAt the start you are avoiding the more dangerous Arcs, while once you get kitted out and have more skill points allocated you can take on some of the more deadly ones
>>724959393The endgame is being addicted to it and feel a fake sense of accomplishment.
The "end goal" of arc raider is to accumulate an entire inventory full of snitch scanners so you can run around griefing people who are trying to co-op by dumping 10 wasps on their head.
>>724960224not even remotely true, what do you hope to achieve by posting dumb bot shit?
>>724960224>The point is that there's no fundamental difference between the start of playing ARC Raiders and 30 hours in, you're doing the same shit.You're doing the same shit in Battlefield. Same maps weapons and vehicles. Whats the point?
How many people are in a map at a time?
>>724960791Feels like 6-8 in solos
>>724960224
>>724946316Hunt was made by Crytek skeleton crew as a passion project during their free time. Only last year they got actual funding.>>724960252They fixed most of the UI nonsense, you can tell they kinda regretted it, the old UI was bad but the new UI was just worse.
>>724945843Embarrassing. Do you follow video game awards and steam chart threads too? You can be better than this anon. Maybe.
>>724952923Lol that's the thing about extractions man there's no fleshed out story. You're doing glorified achievements basically. The extraction formula is basicallly glued together from leftovers of other games.
>>724961348>Lol that's the thing about extractions man there's no fleshed out story.Whats the fleshed out story of CoD MP?
>>724930574Looks interesting but DMZ was better
>>724955449just walk up to people
I dont like the guns. im sent in with a piece of shit hand fed internal magazine hunk of junk and im expected to get literally anything done against anything and use up half my ammo scrounging resources from the very things that drop my ability to re-up on resources.ive also been sniped across the map from players i cant see supposedly with weapons i cant access. and then when me and squad go down i see 3-6 fuckbois run over from what was originally just opening up a random POI 2 minutes into a match. Ive played Apex, why did i think third partying wasnt a major component of fuckshit big maps
Why is there a weeklong timer for the dumb electromagnetic storm event when it's just a worse version of night raids? It doesn't even have better loot.
>>724951431>there is pvp in this extract shooter, save me roleplayman
>>724961428DMZ will come back better than ever.
>>724961402What? Cod mp doesn't need to have a story. It doesn't even pretend to.
>>724961617Rattler sucks majorly when it isn't upgraded, and it's the most expensive white gun to upgrade. I just take a level 3 Ferro like 80% of the time
>>724961402COD MP doesnt drop you all in the same map, against one clearly defined enemy. even Tarkov has differing factions and dissuades you from hostile action against those youre aligned with.
>>724961761>COD MP doesnt drop you all in the same map, against one clearly defined enemy.......
oh bb
>>724960868Low IQ post
>>724961749the ferro actually surprised me despite it being a one shot. but the overall feeling of the guns being absolute rickety pieces of shit doesnt fil me with confidence. i actually said to my friend "they figured out magazines in WW1"
>>724961816Yeah the bots man? World building? The story? How dumb are you?
>>724961816who is the enemy faction or species everyone is fighting in Call of Duty anon?
>>724962047RED guys?
>>724962047>>724961978The enemy is NATO or Russians depending on which side you're on or whoever the enemy is nowadays and you're literally all on the same map for ten minutes and repeat until the new map.Every MP game doesn't have some deep story and is just an excuse to shoot other people but all of a sudden extraction shooters need a story or whats the point of the game. Whats the point of BF or CoD?
>>724961720Theres been a lot of DMZ 2 speculation about the files found in whatever CoD is releasing next year so I'm staying hopeful
>>724962197were not talking about every MP game were talking about Arc Raiders
>>724961935Bro just run a loot mk2 what are you doing they cost basically nothing
>>724962287>were not talking about every MP game were talking about Arc RaidersYes and why does Arc Raiders need to have a deep story when every MP game doesn't. The "story" is window dressing for PvEvP and rolling out new content in season like events. Instead of dropping a new map and 3 new guns or whatever and writing about new content in a forum post, its an expedition to an unexplored part of the world in Arc Land or whatever the fuck. Its to set the scene but at the end of the day you shoot people and blow shit up like any other game but now its a big deal because>MUH STORY >WHATS THE POINT OF THIS GAME I DONT GET IT
>>724942963I want an extraction Monster Hunter game. Imagine Monster Hunter with the fear mechanics from the PS2 days. Where you are weak and easily killed and it takes some serious gearing to be able to take out even a KutKu. Hunger/Energy like Duckov. Cooking being important, safe camps actually having meaning. Monster Hunter is the perfect world for something like a PvE extraction game. Imagine a hardcore extract MH game...I can dream.
>>724930574>all the e-celebs calling it a "cod/battlefield killer"In six months, at most, only a fraction of the current player base will be playing this game. We've already seen this with Delta Force, The Finals, XDefiant, and Marvel Rivals, I'm afraid. Doesn't help that it's an extraction shooter, which is basically jumping on a trend.
The point of bf or cod is pure gameplay ofcourse. Extractions have a vague foundation with no ending. I srsly don't get how you're not understanding this .
>>724962470Just play Monster Hunter 2 on PS2.
>>724962586>>724962197
>>724962586The point of extraction is pure gameplay and this one doubly so because the gameplay is extremely polished compared to its peers. Usually extraction shooters have janky asf sounds, animations and gunplay. Everything here is polished and ready day one.
>>724962582>six monthsIn a monthYou reach "end game" in a week and the fact the rewards for doing expedition/self wipes is temporary is fucking insane.
>>724952923>but why?>Why are killing each other?It's just a common trope. When a place becomes an uninhabitable hellscape that only a select few insane weirdos and adrenaline junkies would even dare step foot into, a good chunk of those people are, or become, psychopaths that enjoy the lawless nature and freedom that comes from existing in that area.Look at STALKER. People go to the Zone just to kill and rob people for fun. Look at Solo Leveling, some people want to go into dungeons just so they can get away with killing other hunters. A lot of games, anime, movies, books, etc portray this kind of trope. Sure you could say that "raiders" started out as a way for humanity to come together and try to find a way to retake the surface. But you will still have a bunch of those crazies, who just want to go to the surface to enjoy a bit of a killing buffet. And if they get good shit, they can come back home sell it for massive profit and live comfy.
>>724962457Another good example is Mobas and Moba-likes, like Overwatch. What reason would Mercy have to fight Winston and Tracer? What reason would Noxus champs have for fighting other Noxus champs? There is none, it's a game, suspend your disbelief and enjoy killin dudes ffs.
>>724962957No, I want to fight the robots and explore and loot, I don’t need tryhard cod niggers shitting up what would otherwise be a fun game.
>>724930574Ok, but how do I get good?
>>724963081This game isn't for you.
>>724962735There's way more stuff behind the extraction loop that pretends to be there. I had many encounters where the net code was off and people saw me from behind cover. Got stuck once too.
>>724942963I always said if you took a game like Dark and Darker or Dungeonborne and added some pseudo MMO elements and bosses with some raid like mechanics it would sell a shitload of copies. The fact that you could lose gear and non tab targeting combat adding more depth than mashing F1 for your generic skill like in regular MMOs means there would be a reason to go back to lower level areas and farm gear or materials for food/potions instead of just going to an auction house and buying shit. Wouldn't have to worry about meta niggers screaming about powercreep because you can scale up new enemies easily and everyone would be following the same gear upgrade progression path more or less.
>>724962391kek i spend all my money on stash upgrades cause i hoarde everything
>>724940608Destroyed him.
>>724963161>I had many encounters where the net code was off and people saw me from behind coverThat wasn't netcode. That was because of the stupid 3rd person camera. Game sucks solely because of this.
>>724963127Play it like a stealth game. I successfully looted 2 key rooms last night solo both in night raids. First was a green buried city key, no one saw me. Secobd was the control tower in spaceport, looted everything, seen by no one, took out multiple arc on the way in and out, and extracted without issue. If you approach it really slowly and carefully, no one should get the drop on you, but you'll notice you routinely get the drop on others. I prefer playing peacefully, but if I have someone in my sights I’ll just ask if they're friendly on prox chat. How they respond determines if I shoot them or not.
>>724963151Then how am I already level 40? Fuck off pvp nigger, I don’t need your gay ass sweat fest trickshot brainrot dogshit to enjoy the game.
>>724963127Partially what >>724963127 saysBut if you think you're going to have to shoot a man, treat it like you're hunting. Don't shoot if you can't confirm the kill, stalk them and wait until you can catch them with their pants down. This is a rat fuck game, remember that.
>>724963161>>724963419Nah he's right, I even see AI enemies teleporting around constantly. Really annoying to fire off a ferro shot and the drone just teleports 2 meters to the right
>>724963523That's okay. I get enough joy knowing you are ripping your dick skin off with rage every time someone downs you.
>>724963127You can run free kits and just scrap with everyone you find. I would just run a ferro though and put a hole in some micless retard's chest.
how much damage does the hairpin do to raiders?it would fit my playstyle so well but it seems like such a dink gun that will get you killed by arc and raiders alikeneed to find a silencer blueprint for my beloved Anvil
>>724930574>PvP i Just spamming q d looking over the shoulder and hope the other Guy IS stupid ENOUGH to walk into your cross hairRiveting. The levels and sound are amazing but the PvP is nowhere near peak. Id rather play Tencent tarkov for it. It oughta be a PvE game, but no they want the extraxtionsloppa zoomer audience.
>>724964325>PvP i Just spamming q d looking over the shoulderwhat did he mean by this?
>>724964615Never heard of a-d strafe?
>>724964615he is right. thats why any serious pvp game isnt in 3rd person.
>>724964731Did he say a-d?
>>724959774You 'win' by extracting, and your loot is your 'score'. How is that hard to comprehend?
>>724964737what made you think this is a serious pvp game? half the niggas in a lobby are running around holding hands
>>724964737good, nobody wants smelly "serious" playerbase
>>724964325>there's no way to counter people sitting around corners!Nobody tell him
>>724964737maybe that's because ARC isn't a serious pvp game...dumb fuck
>>724962582no one called it that
>>724964737no fun allowed this is a serious game
>>724964737hopefully the few remaining milsim fags left are conscripted and droned soon
>>724965180It's not serious until you run into a nolifer with a max shield and are shooting peas. Remove pvpshittery entirely , don't halfass is with frustrating mediocre bs. Either go full hardcore asspain like Tark and Abi or not at all. If I'm playing to chill I don't want my game to be ruined by people that are unemployed.
>>724965180Extraction is inherently serious pvp, the entire design philosophy behind full loot pvp is serious, what the fuck are you talking about? That's exactly why 3rd person screen peaking is bad and why most developers avoid it.
>everyone is friendly you'll see as long as you play solo it's 90% friendlies>very first map>sniped 20 meters from spawn>literally nothing on me>dude emotes for a minute or two before finally killing meAnnnnnd that's a refund.
>>724965495it's a video game faggotnone of it is serious
>>724965002Friendsloppers usually disappear from these types of games within 1 week. Those people will eventually be KOS only as thats what this genre is. I highly doubt you will see the PvE for this game materialize long term. It will be players hunting players 99% of the time. Week 1 always looks way different than week 3 psychologically when you look at how players interact.
>>724965513Well yeah silly, 90% being friendly means 10% won't be. Humans are bad at statistics though and massively overinflate their perception of bad outcomes, that's why games like Fire Emblem show fake percentages
>>724965513>retard doesn't understand mathit's ok lil buddy, now line up for your "shower"
>>724964737>serious pvp game>serious gameDamn, you niggas really just can't have fun, huh? compfags just ruin everything.
>>724965851>plays compfag genre>complains that compfag genre attracts compfagswater is wet
>>724965643Still didnt answer the question
>>724965495it's the most unserious pvp game I have ever played, not even 2fort is this silly
>>724965934>third person shooter>competitiveayy lmao
>bro thinks this is a "comp" gamelol
even fortnite is more competitive than this you brainless niggers
>>724965998>full loot pvp isn't serious, it's just casual funlmao
>>724966074shhh, they dont know the pvp was added afterwards
>>724966089>video games aren't casual funthere is literally no such thing as a serious game kekyour life must be fucking miserable
>>724966217this is what is called goalpost moving, you now are saying all video games are casualthanks for the W faggot, move along
>>724964737grr not a real man game for real man gamers
>>724966270>all video games are casualyes
>>724966270yes all videogames are casual, and no you aren't hardcore for being angry at videogames which are inherently a casual activity
>>724966542>there is no such thing as hardcore gamesThe burden of proof is on you
>>724965934plays what was FORMERLY a compfag genre*Fun is on the menu, sorry tarkovsissy.
>>724930574The Duskbloods will mog this next year.
>>724966667Naw, everyone knows this is just the waiting room for Marathon
I got jumped yesterday in a night raid after looting a key room. I managed to ultimately evade the guy and run away and extract and damn my heart was pounding. That's like the entire point of this genre right? You autists love to debate semantics but that's about as 'hardcore' or 'casual' I was expecting this experience to be.
>>724966612that's not how this works, you're claiming that certain games are hardcore without proof (fucking third person shooters at that kek)all video games by their nature as video games are casualif you believe otherwise you'll have to provide some proof you dumb cunt
>>724966612the burden of proof lies with the one who speaks, not the one who denies
>>724966726>waiting room for MarathonLmao that game is going to be laughed out of the room. Anyone playing it will be labeled a faggot. It will die within days.
>>724966734yeah those butt clenchers are what make the genre fun and that can only work with droppable loot and pvp, it's something whiny tourists will never experience
>>724966750>>724966765So you think Tarkov is not a hardcore game? You would be the first, it's been well established that hardcore games are a thing. Arma 3 isn't exactly casual. But you are claiming the opposite and claiming that there is no such thing when it has been well established otherwise. No nigger, the burden of proof falls on you. My claim has already been made, and you are now trying to claim something millions of people already agree upon.
>>724966667>FROM netcode on a Nintendo only platformNah
>>724966987Why it was delayed and targeting Switch 2 hardware retard.
>>724965934clearly this game is not full compfag shit yet you still want to push it
>>724966958>So you think Tarkov is not a hardcore game?no it's not, what made you think so? the slavic militarism presentation? the process of playing it is exactly the same as an other casual videogame
>>724966958>it's been well established that hardcore games are a thingdefine a hardcore game
>>724967148Full loot pvp, hunger thirst mechanics, penalties for weight, low max hp and low TTK with difficulty in recovery. That's a start
>>724967148Let's ask Grok.@Grok what defines a hardcore game?>A hardcore game is typically defined as one that demands a substantial investment of time, skill, and dedication from players to succeed, often featuring high difficulty, complex mechanics, long play sessions, and punishing consequences for mistakes (e.g., permadeath or no checkpoints).@Grok If someone claims all video games are casual, would you agree or would you say there is hardcore games?>No, I would not agree that all video games are casual—hardcore games absolutely exist.The gaming industry and community universally recognize a spectrum from casual (simple rules, short sessions, low skill barriers—e.g., Candy Crush, Angry Birds) to hardcore (high skill ceilings, deep mechanics, punishing failure, heavy time investment—e.g., Dark Souls, Escape from Tarkov). Casual games target mass appeal with accessibility; hardcore ones cater to dedicated players seeking challenge and mastery.Lmao even the AI thinks you are retarded.
>>724967034The fuck does Switch hardware matter for netcode, they can't even make their flagship games have good online.
>>724967254I guess minecraft must be an even hardcorer game since it has hunger, droppable loot and there's a high commitment to building up a good loadout to tackle harder enemies
>>724967441>hardcore games exist>Dark Souls is oneLOL
>>724967441thanks poojet for the meaningless bot reply that ignores the existence of survival craftybuildy games that are an order of magnitude longer and more complex than any milsim, it's purely a superficial distinction from meaningless clueless bot retards like you
>>724967539>substantial investment of time, skill, and dedication from players to succeedNo amount of shitposting isn't going to make this a false statement about Dark Souls
>>724967538>>724967634>BTFO by AI dudeEven normalfag AI gave a clear and concise answer and you are two stupid to refute it.
>>724967452This the first game made from top to bottom with multiplayer in my, directed by Miyazaki and a Nintendo exclusive. The likelihood this is a miss is lower than Arc Raiders failing and Marathon not being a total disaster.
>>724932827hunt plays completely different from its presentation.
>>724967642huh? it plays like any dungeon crawling rpg, what made you think it's more hardcore than other rpgs?
>>724966898I hated it in sea of thieves and I hate it here. Losing all the shit you just spent 30 nerve wracking minutes collecting isnt fun, sorry.
>>724949260dark and darker has a ton of potential but the game is simply too rigid. weird abilities and classes that are just straight up better. the solo mode is busted because there's a class that can literally go invisible.it's just not there. they achieved a vision but the execution is just lacking.
>>724967971>>724967642actually scratch that, the rapid respawning and retrying nature of dark souls makes it much less of a time investment than pretty much any rpg, it has a very arcade, flat design without meaningful complexity and consequences
>>724967971Whats with faggots like you? Its like you just exist to disagree and waste everyones time. Fuck off bad faith jew.
It's kind of lame to use wikis to "optimize" but I only know the location of 3 weapon chests after 16 hours. my progression is knowledge gated, not skill gated.
>>724965116>dude just carry 20 grenades
>>724968053>30 nerve wracking minutesThe nice thing about this being the casual extraction shooter is that you finish looting in 5 minutes once you get to your destination
>>7249683135 is more than fine, impact is cheap and very slept onImagine that, people that bring stuff have more options in combat???
In some building with a medbay in it>finish looting the room>hear clomping and looting in room nearby.>OPE DON'T MIND ME, JUST PASSIN THROUGH, CASUALLY RUNNIN THROUGH HERE, DON'T MIND ME>Run through hallway>Other raider also in hallways just looks at me as I run by>open door>turn around>GOODBAI>close door.
>>724968313not only are there tons of different type of normal grenades, gas grenades, smoke grenades, there are grenades that will attract arc to where you throw them, grapple hooks to quickly engage/disengage enemies, tons of resources you can you, or just run away you fucking braindead retard, no wonder you get shit on
>>724968218The rapid retrying, boss rushing nature of Dark Souls is inherently a tight-loop design and arcade in nature, what makes it more hardcore than a sprawling RPG with actual consequences and planning? You're the one copypasting dumb bot replies without thinking.
>>724968218nigger elden ring was like the most popular game on the planet during covid, hardcore games don't attract mass appeal by definitionit's in the name (or it would be if hardcore games actually existed)
>>724968313well yeah you have a lot of quick use slots and grenades are plentiful, so use them
where can i get the mk3 combat/tactical/looter blueprintsdo i have to kill a harvester or something
>>724968953only the two queen reactor guns are harvester blueprintsI don't think I'll ever see anyone using these in the wild, you have to be a massive tryhard
>>724930574this is like bragging you have the messiest diarrhea of all diarrheaseriously that just means this game gets mogged by everything that ISN'T a $40 extraction shooter
>>724969267let's see your recently played games
>>724965513Yo Darksydephil, how's things?
How are there still so many freefags running around when a green kit costs the equivalent of a single Scrappy haul? Are these people even aware of crafting?
>>724939183damn fuuuuckkkkkkkkk
>>724930574I've never wanted to play a single one of these looter shooters. Ever since all the battle royale games where you loot guns and have these backpacks with loot. I don't like these games.
>>724940641why lie? I've played the game. I know the sliding is very stiff and dodgerolling feels oddly short and floaty. the moving is OK at times but it does have an odd "your character turns slightly slower than camera" vibe
>>724940348not every game literally makes you sit with your fingers up your ass waiting for the loot to appear so fuck you>>724940374coping lol
>>724941062lies, see >>724969848
>>724969848I'm fine with the rolling and sliding but the ledge grabbing is infuriating sometimes, your toon just refuses to grab and you end up wasting precious seconds or even minutes if it was a bad fall.
>>724941623Except you can't put whatever you'd TRULY want to keep in the secure pouch, i.e., a rare weapon they had.It just doesn't let youit's fucking gay even when they give the casuals a bone>>724942313there really isn't It's just talking to NPCs in a menu about basic shit. They could have made it a lot more interesting with actual cinematics beyond the opening, there's barely any
>>724970670there are quest cinematics and there's a shitload of quests, there are also hints of a story but it doesn't feel very fleshed out, embark also annoyed me with that kind of vague storytelling in the finals so I hope they ramp it up with some actual plot, drama with rival settlements and factions you can pick seems like an obvious thing to do
>>724965684>>724965758guy was literally camping the noobest of spawnpoint, there's 90% hostiles, not 10%
>>724945843All of these things that aren't gameplay, but instead artificially forced marketingwowThis is videogames now everyone
>>724969570A lot of people don't even realize you can convert free augments you manage to extract with into the Mk1 ones at the healing trader.
This game would have been great as an open world single player RPG. As it is, it's mid zoomer fare.
>>724945843
>>724933280>>724949260>>724953218Daily reminder that NEXON WON LOL
>>724971098You are literally just seething from being killed once. Spawn camping doesn't even make sense in this game because there are a dozen spawns on each map and players join matches at different times
>>724948790holy chink shit you wana talk about niggas bein poorbuying this game without owning a mic of somekind for their gaming in the big 2025 is ridiculous. What kind of shilling is this post?
>>724971487we've been living in an asian world for a while, only those in the US regime don't seem to realize that
>>724971714you don't even need a mic and I barely understand what you broke-ass niggas are saying with your $5 mics anyway, just the proximity chat icon is enough to disarm people
>>724952997seethe + dilate
>Marathon has streamers leak its NDA playtest>Bungie says fuck it and allows playtest to be streamed no NDA>Streamers drop Marathon within days despite playtest lasting over a month>Arc Raiders releases its own playtest days after NDA for Marathon is lifted, every streamer dumps Marathon and plays Arc Raiders until playtest ends>Marathon has generally poor reviews and reception, eventually delays date because of poor reception and plagerism from the art team>Arc Raiders releases>Everyone loves it>Sells like crazy>Streamers cant get enough of it despite playing it for 17 hours a day and are still streaming it 6 days later even though they already have hundreds of hours in the gameMan poor Marathon. Overshadowed by Arc Raiders. It would be absolutely hilarious if Arc Raiders drops some sort of massive update around the same time of Marathon releasing.
Is this shit going to become a common event after the timer? Blue Gate being cucked out of major events for so long doesn't make sense.
>>724960562This, this is literally it and no one will acknowledge it, or they'll just seethe at you.
>>724968053Well then fuck on off, okay lil buddy? Surely you have better ways to spend your life than polluting your mind with things you don’t enjoy?
>>724971552not gonna worsen my carpal tunnel on a game based on cooperation when this is my very first taste of it
>>724930574>people already complaining about the shitty DICE faggot netcodetold you niggers these queers only make turbo casual slop what a fucking waste of polish
>>724970932If they aren't doing it now at the outset, I don't think there's much of chance they actually nail this aspect- it was an afterthought.Valve always gets this right in their mp games bc they actually have character that interact with each other and have... well character. I wonder why it's so hard for other games to do this.
>>724972003It doesn't even seem that cool of an event, but I guess it would only be on Buried City and Blue Gate if you have to avoid above ground as much as possible
>>724972856It was active in the server slam and it's as stupid as it sounds, it just makes moving outside a pain in the ass as constant strikes force you to keep dodging.
>>724972258No go fuck yourself bitch, I enjoy the pve aspect and will play it as much as I want, when I get ganked I will report you and call you a fucking nigger on prox, eat shit.
>gear up for a key run>spawn late and at the other side of the map>closest exit is campertownecks dee
>>724969667Mid as fuuuuckkkkkkkkk
>>724973365reported for breaking swedish law on mic :(
>do a loop around Night Dam for supply drops for the weekly trials as a Free Kit>end up getting 3 of them >hit the breach lockers that someone didn't have the skill for, get Osprey+ two Torrente>encumbered, almost die to fucking wasps/hornet spam>giant fucking shitfest at the extract with people fighting the leaper>roll in there and help clear it out with nades/defib + torrente>all of us extractSaw flares popping up on my way to the extract so I was worried I would lost my weekly xp+gear.
>>724973442They really shouldn't allow spawns after 5 minutes. You’re at a MASSIVE disadvantage if you spawn in and the clock is already halfway over, its ridiculous. Wheres that nigger talking about symmetrical gameplay? Is having HALF the time as everyone else still a level pvp playing ground?
>>724973616Nigger nigger nigger
>>724930574>mogging extraction shooter slopnot much of a high bar is it
>>724935939>Forever WinterBought it the other day on sale, been really enjoying it. It's got a lot of shoddiness, but it's very atmospheric and gives me nostalgia from when I was kid making NPCs fight on Doom maps, I like it a lot.
nigger tongued my anus
>>724973627locker breach skill tree worth the investment? my friend's almost there and it might be nice to use him as a mule.
>>724930574>subhuman keeps bumping his niggerfied shit thread
>>724974548Absolutely, more spawn at night and you just learn the spawns and check them. Blueprints, weapons etc and just tons of utility items.
Played for some hours with a group of friends. Not sure why, but I do not have this adrenaline kick from other pvp shooters like Tarkov and Hunt Showdown. Perhaps it's because of the lower risk involved (less time consuming, you get free gears anyway, raids last less than 20 min so you can brainlessly "try again"), or maybe because it's a less realistic setting with everyone running around in clown suits. Aside from shitty space jumpsuit cosmetics, I really liked the lore setting and the game's excellent optimization.
>>724974693A large part of it is third person, it feels less personal and immersive.
>>724974801First person is gay and boring, 3rd person is more immersive because I can see my character and see whats happening to them. In first person it just happening to me, not my character, which causes a rift between the world its taken place in and actual reality. I would not play this game if it were first person.
>>724972856More players down in the tunnel system all at once on Blue Gate sounds like it would be an absolute clusterfuck. It's usually rather comfy to travel down there outside of the rare ambush, but you'd have a rat around every blind corner if they all came underground to avoid the storm.
>>724960562It's a video game lol. Do you think a cool factorio map is a real accomplishment? Oh no my little brother deleted my save and in doing so has destroyed my life's greatest work.
>voice comms: off>shooting: on sightThere is nothing you can do to stop me.
