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Should character creators feature more gender divisive options like pelvis size or waistline slider?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98vFqfD_hHc
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The Sims killer they said
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Sims thread btw
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>>724943332
No.
Anything else?
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More options the better. No reason not to include good sliders other than offending ugly women.
Especially if its a life sim game, the form and state of your body is pretty relevant to simulating life
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>>724943390
why not...
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>>724943332
Can you make bubble butt and big tits? If no, then it's not about freedom, it's propaganda.
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>>724943332
>all those options
>*picks preset 1*
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>>724943332
As long as body type is restored to gender I don't care what they do. Even allowing beards on women or the wrong voice is more acceptable than using body types.
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buy and ad
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>>724943752
who else is going to talk about indies in these dark AAA pajeet shill times if not for us: straight Aryan Chads??
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>>724943332
>>724943332
looks like dogshit
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>>724943916
not for you, chuddie
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At least it's not TS4
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>>724943859
WTF ARE THOSE KNEES
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>>724943993
that's fine, I'm all about gamedevs being allowed to make whatever they want targeting whatever audience they want
if you're satisfied catering to 5 people that's fine, just don't complain when the other billion that play games out there don't buy yours since they weren't the target audience in the first place
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>>724944839
nigga people that buy The Sims etc. aren't the audience you think they are, they won't give a shit about DEI inclusions
TS4 has all that and is the highest selling Sims game and consistently on top 10 pc earners for years
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you didn't tell me what i'm supposed to be mad about and i'm not clicking your youtube
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>>724943332
>all that effort to make basic bitch roastie
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>>724945313
I just asked a question...
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>>724943332
Most AAA westcuck games avoid gender in character creator. Yet, these supposedly "woke" Sims games still label the genders male and female.
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>>724943364
Who knows, InZoi was too soulless and requires high end PC to run it.
This one has tumblr art style and LGBT shit with cartoon graphics that transfolx love
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>>724945409
>you can make any character you want as long as it's ugly
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>>724945436
That's a "gender" option and as you can see it's set to nobinary. Body (sex) selection is separate.
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>>724945224
I don't know why you replied to me, it's obvious this game isn't going to replace the sims or even sell well at all
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>>724943332
Good character creator should allow for creation of anything from delicate loli to giga nigga muscle wizard
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>>724945538
It is what it is.
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>>724945645
because it's literally the same audience and you're implying DEI shit will matter to the core audience that actually buys these games
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>>724943332
stopped playing at the tattoo part
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>>724943332
Pelvis size is a must. When I install the unbirth/vore mod those hips need to be wide.
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Why did no one try to make The Sims in coop or multiplayer? Almost every game has a coop mode nowadays. I don't understand why the EA retards aren't jumping at the opportunity.
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>>724946447
that's what project Rene was supposed to be
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>>724945442
If all the woke failures havnt clued you in yet the troonies dont actually buy games like this. They just pay them lipservice their fagspace socials then go back to self inserting as mercy from overwatch or other actually attractive character. The reality is even amongst that minority people that actually like this shit are a tiny minority
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>>724945442
This game looks like a liberal mouthpiece wokeslop that only LGBTroons enjoys.
Meanwhile Sims 4 is an omnipandering game with LGBT content.
The majority of Sims 4 players are mostly straight/bi women who are tolerant/indifferent to faggotry. But I'm sure even they have their limits. I say they're mostly fine with fags, but they drew the line on ugly fags.
Remember the Pokemon Go drama a while back? Even foids are sick of blatant uglification wokefaggotry when it was shoved down their throats.

No doubt that this game will see some players here and there, but Sims position as the most popular lifesim won't change.
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>>724947085
Get woke go broke doesn't apply to life sim games. The Sims 4 is literally the wokest game you can buy, and it's a massive success despite everyone hating it.
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>>724943448
There is no justifiable reason for being fatter than that.
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>>724947223
it's so successful it killed Maxis and EA execs are now eating Arab shit in Riyadh Scat Parties after laying off half of the company
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>>724947223
You can get wayy more woke than sims 4 and its actual core audience is 30ish year old women. If you cant make pretty women for them to torture they are going are not going to play your game.
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>>724947517
>If you cant make pretty women for them to torture
omo...
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>>724947085
Most "trans folx" as they call themselves, assigned female at birth, and arent raised on video games, nor do they enjoy compeition or challenges, like women. Theyll happily watch someone else play games, usually whatever viral slop is trending. Just like girls on the rare occasion they play its animal crossing, pokemon, kirby, piss easy mascot character cutesy stuff mostly aside from sims.

Amabs literally play the same games any other dude plays but insist that its somehow totally a "trans gurl thing".

Youre right though both have a tendency to shill wokeshit and then not play it. Same for movies and show. Both have pretty lamestream taste, and just demand mainstream media cater to them. For a crowd that is half made up of former "alternative" deviant art scene tumblr kids, they sure are averse to anything non mainstream.

God, its like pissing your pants then complaining that youre warm and sticky when you were 3 feet from the toilet. Theres tons of fuckung gay webcomics and i have zero doubt theres indie games FOR these fucking people, but no "we need MTF TOP SCARS IN DARK SOULS NOW"
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>>724947606
Souless koreaslop
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>>724947606
Almost like the biggest issue with Inzoi is that the game is unfinished, barebones, and won't run properly on the majority of their target audience PC.
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>>724948047
racism is cringe

>>724948071
well yeah it's in early access, hello?
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>>724946447
Because that's just any MMO or VRChat
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>>724947425
What if i want to play as sumo wrestler huh
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>>724948148
Did they get the group rate at the plastic surgeon?
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>>724948071
The problem is that base Sims 4 is more fun than Inzoi. And Inzoi is clunky to play if you have more than one Zoi. It's like nobody on the dev team was a huge Sims fan that "gets it".
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>>724948320
>Sumo life
It's just eating, sleeping and pushing other fat asses. And the eating and sleeping is done at the dojo. It's such a nothing meme life.
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>>724943380
Is it possible to make someone who doesnt look like an absolute faggot?
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>>724948461
It's not and nobody played Sims 4 at launch, which is why it underperformed and killed Maxis. People went back to 3 until 4 started getting mods.

Inzoi save files and even presets are getting corrupted with bugs because of the updates, leaving people to wait instead.
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>>724947606
you're clearly at least somewhat self-aware since the whole reason why you post this vile filth is because it makes people mad
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>>724948047
This, im still gonna play sims.
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ugly souls can only create ugly art
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>>724949189
Calisisters...
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>>724943993
Then go to shill on bluesky instead of 4chan
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>>724949409
Best we can do is gynecomastia for Body Type B. Sorry, champ.
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>>724943332
no. male features for males. female features for females.
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>>724943332
Why can you only find macromastia representation in Asian games?
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>>724943332
im literally shaking rn.
pelvis and waistlines can't change that's so offensive to us this game is highly transphobic
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>>724949578
im not a pedophile but i still want huge titted short women.
can that game do that
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>>724949578
>Customisable anus hair
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>>724948786
eh?? I swear I don't know what you're talking about
it's just a cute preset made by a Japanese modder

if cute girls are enough to make you mad while calling them "vile filth" then something is seriously wrong with your brain
are you trans?
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>>724945695
what's wrong with making games for a specific, targeted audience?
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>>724949578
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>>724949578
Game?
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>>724949578
>inverted nipples
Based.
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>>724949578
Alright, game?
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>>724947772
It's actually kind of hilarious how you can be 90% accurate about someone depending on what games they talk about/post about/play.
Every single ftm and 90% of nb on tumblr post about animal crossing or whatever gay VN they're "playing", or only like a game because they watched their special streamer play it.
Just another female hobby on top of all the other female-centric hobbies that they tend towards, almost like they've always been women all along. Funny that.
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>>724950804
nothing, but then you can't do your passive agressive "lol but the game will flop if it's woke though" comment on the same sentence given in this case the core audience does not care at all
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>>724948615
That's my life if you minus pushing other fatasses and add wagiedom instead.
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>>724951879
if it's marketed as not for me, is it passive aggressive to not buy it though? I get you leftists hate everyone who isn't insanely unhinged, but you need to be consistent
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>>724952498
oh my God

you'd literally end up in jail for that kind of AI/deepfake, if you were in Korea btw
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>>724945442
>high end PC
You can run that gookslop on a 1060.
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>>724952729
>if you were in Korea btw
It's putting Johnny Somali into prison so I hope he's the first and last to get incarcerated for deepfakes.
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>>724949578
What game, anon
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>>724952153
nigga you literally said
>if you're satisfied catering to 5 people that's fine, just don't complain when the other billion that play games out there don't buy yours since they weren't the target audience in the first place
This doesn't apply to this type of game at all since (you) were never the intended audience in the first place, and the audience that actually plays The Sims and games like this is HUGE, not just your "5 people"
You were obviously being passive agressive in a "lel it's woke so it will flop due to alienating the playerbase lol" way, which might work for many games, but not The Sims clones
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>>724952498
shoujo ai just got a new meaning
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>>724943332
Is there a height modifier? I like my girls 4'9"
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>>724952729
only if he made them do the "ok" sign while kissing, then he would have been flooded with rape and death threats by ricels
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>>724953035
ayy
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>>724953089
>the "ok" sign
uhh ohh, amerimutt idpol warrior confused again lol
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>>724951126
>>724951460
>>724952949
夏のサカり
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>>724953035
Height sliders are the most difficult to make in games like these, that have shared/paired animations. Inzoi doesn't have it but devs are aware that it's requested and they're considering it. It's my most coveted feature for the character creator too, seeing how it's perfect otherwise.
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>>724943448
Maxed out fat in Sims just looks weird and misshapen. Inzoi is more proportionate.
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>>724949578
found it: Summer in Heat, Miconisomi
it's on fag95
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>>724953438
I never understood that. Height slider, sure, but how hard is it to make a short/medium/tall skeleton for females and short/medium/tall for males? Is it really that hard adapting animations for six heights?
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>>724945409
>bulge size
>shows character smiling
kek
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>>724953824
>Is it really that hard adapting animations for six heights?
compared to other cosmetic features, yes
everything else is just "render the hair brown", height is "adjust every fucking animation in the game"
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>>724954023
Oh I know it's harder than a palette swap. I'm asking is it really THAT HARD to a point where height choices in these types of games are virtually impossible?
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>>724954263
yes, animations are time consuming asf.
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>>724953824
depending on how many animations there are in the game (and inzoi has a lot of interactive animations for all sorts objects) then six heights are quite the headache if you were to readjust them manually

especially paired animations
6 heights across 2 body models is a lot of variable combinations to work with

no, the only viable way to do this is to rely on UE5 automatic animation adjustment feature which is still being tested
they demoed stuff like automatic algorithm changing the body position depending on the objects around them, body/rig constraints and 360 movement (think of smooth Naughty Dog handcrafted animation sequencing but procedural)
only if they eventually employ something similar will they achieve well proportioned and adjusted pair animations (where taller character models automatically place their hands lower for a hug instead of clipping through shorter model's head for example)

Inzoi will be supported for at least a decade and they're already on UE5 and fans of AI so maybe they pull it off in the future
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Ah it's the kpoop spammer. Do not engage.
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>>724954632
So? Games are expensive asf. They can get off their asses and start working on never done before shit that have been requested for decades.
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>>724955061
They didn't say they won't do it.
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If the game doesn't have the option to make a cute femboy that can wear frilly dresses then I ain't buying it.
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>>724955409
What if it does give you that option, but the worlds are populated entirely by tumblr and twitter millennial trash?
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Why are Sims 4 players shitting on Paralives for not cleaning windows when Sims 4 on release was the most barebones broken buggy shit?
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>>724955918
Simsisters are going through a rough patch at the moment. What with all the Saudi buyout and everything.
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>>724948780
>Inzoi save files and even presets are getting corrupted with bugs because of the updates, leaving people to wait instead.
I'm waiting for some sex mods to come and apparently what people need for sex mods to work wont come until the december update. And who knows how long until after that update for the mods to release, another six more months after december at the minimum.
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>>724958074
Did Inzoi get better since launch? I played maybe 3 weeks when it launched in EA, haven't touched it since.
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>>724958173
>Did Inzoi get better since launch? I played maybe 3 weeks when it launched in EA, haven't touched it since.
Idk, I just occasionally check in on the discord and updates. The devs release a weekly devlog/conversation with the players so the devs do seem earnest in wanting to create a good game.
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>>724943332
What game is this? I want to make my favorite pornstar
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>>724958173
No. They made a free island paradise expansion where nothing really got added other than scenery and currently having a halloween 'thing'.
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>>724958173
They added science babies.
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>>724958173
Added swimming and some group activities.
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>>724958173
Added ghosts and burglars in a Halloween update. They want to add aliens but roasties demand vampires first.
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>>724958173
They fixed the subsurface scattering face shadows bug for ingame zois.
This bug made people rightfully seethe because they thought the models get downgraded from the character creation screen to look worse ingame. But no, it was just a shadowing issue.
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>>724952987
I do play the sims, though
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>>724943332
what the fuck
only merchants could make something this hideous
and think its beautiful
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>>724958308
>>724958390
>>724958471
>>724958494
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>>724959284
Any worthwhile mods that change anything?
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>>724955456
I don't interact with any character that I didn't create.
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>>724960547
But you still see them, polluting your nice city.
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>ugly face
>tattoos
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>>724943332
Ugly dirty artstyle.
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>>724953007
lmao that was clever.
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>>724943332
the more options, the better. enjoyment in being able to create something you want, as opposed to getting frustrated because of arbitrary limitations- this is even worse if those limitations are politically motivated.
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how do i get a sims gamer gf
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>>724964550
That's pretty much any woman with computer knowledge.
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>>724963982
Yeah, but they should have cool options like fur, claws, hooves, horns, snoots and tails or riot armor, knight armor, helmets, masks, beautiful flowing ornate robes and capes to make an interesting and unique character.
Not 100 options to make a hideous disgusting looking human trash with tatoos, ugly skin imperfections, virtigo, makeup, piercings and a meme gender.
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>>724965542
Fuck OFF, Ivan.
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>>724965665
>You are le schizo boogieman.
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>>724943859
Dude, showing off on /v how gay your game is won't sell you more copies (/v does not play games).
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Just like InZoi, this game spends zero of its ad time to advertise gameplay or the "simulation" features, which is a bad sign.
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bump
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>>724960234
They still didn't hand over the modding tools. I think they're afraid of porn since it's illegal in SK. Also pedo mods will net them scandals due to realistic graphics.
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>>724949578
>All of those customization options
>Only one vagina
I swear Japan has the strangest priorities sometimes
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>>724970056
Before release
> Sirs, please buy the game, there will be porn mods.
After release.
> Sirs, there will be no mods at all to prevent porn mods.
Kek, imagine being a retard who bought this.
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>>724972192
>>724970056
but they did release the modkit for basic clothing options and decided to go from blueprint scripting > lua scripting which will be put out next year
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>>724959284
I will now play your game.
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>>724972192
Nobody promised you porn mods, cum for brains.
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>>724943332
boob slider is the most important one
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>>724967175
Paralives seems to have extensive relationship mechanics but utterly gross models. The complete opposite of Inzoi which marketed the chargen in the reveal trailer.
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>>724945442
would be great if all women moved to it though, would improve Sims threads and generals a million times more
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>>724945683
This. Character creators should let you be an ugly woke motherfucker if you really want to, but they should also let you do whatever else you want, too.
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Who cares. Make what you'd like. Mass delete the characters you hate. I did that shit in TS4. Pretty much emptied out half the neighborhoods.
Although I did also have to disable random townie generation because City Living fucked randomization so hard turning everything into a hijab-wearing grey skinned bleach-blonde haired Asian named Tyrone Fukami.
I'll probably give this game a try, but I don't expect much.
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>>724976502
>Mass delete the characters you hate. I did that shit in TS4.
Why not just turn them all into hot women or men whatever your kink is instead.
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>>724976868
You can do that?
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>>724976868
Laziness when I have my own cluster of old Sims I could import instead.
I did do some of that for a few of them though. For instance the fucking elderly gay WMAM couple in the cottage neighborhood. Most families in that town were deleted though, what a nonsense pile of shit that whole area is, especially.
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>>724943448
Is xhe complaining about Inzoi or Sims? Because Sims just gives a thin neck/face on a fat body. Inzoi is more realistic (still not realistic because no sausage fingers)
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>>724977226
It's complaining about both. But moreso about Inzoi since it's newer. Even though it's in early access and first game in the series. Not to mention the devs are Asians and they don't give a shit about fat ogres.
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>>724943332
Well yeah, why wouldnt you? That seems like a really good idea. Males and females have a lot of very different features tied to their sex, these things arent just interchangeable
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>>724943448
>right
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>>724977983
dude eww
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>>724943332
What a horrendous artstyle.
Why can't we just go back to the Sims 2 aesthetic?
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>>724978249
thick chocolate milkshake
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>>724977696
>Well yeah, why wouldnt you?
Dunno, ask the fat aunt in the linked video. She thinks hipless trannies as defaults are fine.
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>>724943332
>pelvis size or waistline slider?
Koikatsu already does this and so AA2 IIRC
So I enjoy some childbirthing hips waifus
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>>724943332
I got hard when the shoes went on bare feet



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