Do I HAVE to do all the quests before the final boss or is there an actual post game that lets me continue playing after the final boss?Digimon thread, I guess.
>>724950809The post game after the final boss is the sidequests. The only sidequests you need to do beforehand is the royal knights one, because it changes the cutscenes of the final boss.
>>724950809I just want to get to Agent level 10 before the final boss. Does level 10 give you access to something?
>>724951153A couple Digimon
>>724951208Neat
>>724951153angry chickens
>>724951153You actually can't get Agent 10 before the final boss, the final mission has Anomaly points.
>>724950970>The only sidequests you need to do beforehand is the royal knights one, because it changes the cutscenes of the final boss.Oooooooooh.Shit, I was about to miss that then.Thank you man.
Digimon in 2025
I wanted Blitzmon so bad it's unreal
>>724952136Look at that smug motherfucker in the middle.
>>724950970>The post game after the final boss is the sidequestsMy question is if I could do those after the final boss.Some games just roll credits and end, and you have to load a save game before the final boss to go back and do the stuff that you didn't.
>>724951153It lets you get a few monsThey're locked for story reasons
>>724952136Sparrowmon would have been nice. Not complaining though, the game has all my favorites
>>724952136why
Is this game a good jrpg?
>>724950970How come Susanoomon didnt show up in the end as well when the quest was presented in the same way as the Royal knights?
>>724950809The game gives you a clear save that brings you right before the final boss fight and unlocks post clear quests
Anybody got that "tier list" handy?The one that groups the mons based on their unique attacks.>>724954982It's pretty good.
>>724955153He said himself that he's bad at aerial combat, so he gave his energy to all royal knights
Playing Re Digitize Decode in 2025? Better to import or emulate? How does emulating work, do you play mouse and keyboard for touch screen? What about controller and 3d?
>>724956553There is severe lag input on Def Punching training, so emulator+controller might be the best way to play it.
>>724957660I see. I'll try to look for it thenIs Citra still the best 3DS emu out there?
>>724950809Aside from that one Etemon quest they are all good.
>>724958548Etemon and Kuga were fine since they are contained in one area. Hiroko THOUGH scattered across 14 different areas.
>>724954982It's pretty decent
>>724955153Not enough time
is next order good?
>>724963250I want to know too.How does it compare to the PSP/3ds and the Ps1 games?
>>724963250>>724963838It's okay imo. I think it's a bit better then the handhelds
>>724955153Details about shambala weren't finalized until relatively recently so they didn't have the time to work in Susanoomon is what I'm assuming.
Snoys are trying way too hard to turn "daily Digimon generals" into a thing. It's so artifical and forced compared to the Pokémon ones.
>>724964525They have been a thing since Time Stranger came out a month ago and are only beginning to lose steam now
>>724964525seethe
>>724963250Decent for a v-pet game>>724963838I would say it's worse than re:digitize decode, while it can be better than playing world 1 blind.
>>724964525The digimon general on /vg has been going on for years
>>724964590>only beginning to lose steam nowThe game was dead day 1. Z-A demolished it in both sales and player count.
>>724964525You don't even like videogames
>>724964879The game came out two weeks before Z-A and was a steam bestseller with extremely high player counts for a single player JRPG all throughout that time
>>724964213I hate Takutoumon with a passion. Nezhamon doesn't look that good but it's a very Digimon take on the chinese mythology character and Erlangmon is actually pretty cool
>>724963953>I think it's a bit better then the handhelds>>724964772>I would say it's worse than re:digitize decode,Well fuck.I've had both on my SSD for a good while now and I was considering which of the two to play once I'm done with TS.Guess I'll just flip a coin.
>>724955153Shambala was clearly a last minute insert
>>724966278Feels like that.Or at least that it really was idealized as nothing more than a future hook.
How is this game compared to the CS games? Is it just CS with a bit more time in the oven?
>>724952136I hope the next game finally drops needing the special items for these evolutions, it's so dumb and pointless when we're removed from the anime context
>>724966948Yeah, lots of quality of life additions too
>>724954982Not even remotely, there's zero moveset variety, no movement or range mechanics, you get way more free actions than your enemy, all your party members are completely interchangeable outside their signature moves. It's dull as dishwater, the most basic ass shit imaginable
Should I play TSor digimon world 2/3
>>724966948No it's CS with way higher production values and a little more QoL, but a dumbed down, player skewed combat and raising system, a shittier farm and no tactician USBs
>>724967552Those 3 games are pretty different from one another.I vote for Digimon World 3 simpyl because of how charming it is.
>>724958210Azahar is the newest one after Nintendo shut Citra down. Use the AzaharPlus fork to load .3DS files.
>>724951153You can't. The final boss/mission gives you the points required to reach rank 10, if you've done all side quests.
>>724964213Why is Susan important?
>>724969509he's god
>>724968412>AzaharPlusNTA but if I already have it running on an old Citra version is it worth switching to Azhar? I never heard of this new emu until now and I want to know if it will help me avoid any problems with the game going forward.
>>724965213Fucking this.
>>724950809anon.. you dont have to do anything.. least of all play this shit game
>>724969814Probably not but Azahar does detect your Citra setup and asks to copy user files, saves and patches, over. So moving to Azahar is simple, but if Citra woks well enough just keep using it.
>>724952136Same one of the more solid designs
>>724969509Occupies the same role Imperialdramon: PM does for Royal Knights for the Tantei Hachibushu
>>724969509he created digi-asia
Working like a charm so farRina here I come!
>>724972561Makes me wonder if there's a 3ds emulator for Android phones.Could be a cool way to play the game.I do have a 3ds stored somewhere, I just have no idea where.
>>724972881I was kind of playing the PSP one on PPSSPP on my phone but then learned that Rina wasn't in it so I sought this out instead
>>724972881Citra had an Android port so all the newer forks, like Azahar and Borked3DS, are also available on Android.
>>724973303Well shit.I might just do that then.Sick.
>>724973267Rina isn't the only thing missing in the original PSP version. There's several new Digimon and a new post-base game storyline.
>>724973453That'll be funEver since I nearly 100%'d cybersleuth on the vita, I had remembered Rina and now long overdue, I finally will play the game she came from
What's the best team comp for the final boss?
>>724973453>no shellmonshit game
>>724973710also how come Nanimon is such a chad?
>>724973803When you hit rock bottom and have nothing left to lose, like that thing you have nowhere to go but up.
>>724973734No budget at the time. Bamco wouldn't shell out for Shellmon.
You can really feel that they had not completed storyboarding the finale. Pinochimon episodes were still good. -de aruOnwards to rewatching 02.
So according to the current lore, the creation of the Digital Worlds Iliad and Shambala happened AFTER Project Ark. So why aren't the Royal Knights the X versions?
>>724974092It's been a long time but is it me or did they rush the shit out of machinedramon?
>>724970489I see, thank you for answering my question I really appreciate it anon.
>>724974149Mugendramon*
>>724974149Maybe. The total number of episodes allotted to a show are usually decided on beforehand. Maybe they miscalculated how many episodes they'd need and had to sacrifice Mugendramon.
>>724974149I think they merged him in the same episode they first met him
>>724974112Project Ark didn't happen 98% of the digital world was not massacredYggdrasil was not stopped by Omegamon X or a young lad and his DORUmon
>>724974149Had to make room for Angewomon vs LadyDevimon slapfight.
>using family account find out hulu has season 1 and 2 of digimon>its the 4kids version which is what I literally grew up with and remember>but still want to watch the japanese instead and want to hear Butterflynyaa it is
>>724974890Should have dedicated a whole arc of them fighting tbqh
>>724974149He's hard to draw which is why his part and is short and he barely moves in it
>>724974149Machinedramon got to be the main antagonist of the Ryo games, so he got less screen time than the other dark masters to compensate.
>>724975446And when he moved he conveniently had his legs and upper torso hidden.
>>724974092>Onwards to rewatching 02.Good luck. Once the show jumps the piss, it gets dicey.
>>724975818I felt like Ken should've kept the getup after his face turn, but they probably didn't want to keep drawing it
>>724975664Mugendramon*
>>724975664That's probably not true. The WS games were completely separate from either Toei or any other team in Bandai. They just did their own thing and there was almost no communication between the parties. Even within the video game divisions, there was the Wonderswan team and everyone else. This is why there's so little documentation for the WS games. The WS team did whatever the fuck they wanted, while the rest of Bandai didn't pay attention, hence Millenniummon's general lack of presence in literally anything prior to the Xros Wars manga.This is also why Millenniummon doesn't get the "respect" that a lot of WS fans think it "deserves". To the WS team, Millenniummon was the ultimate evil god Digimon. To literally everyone else at Toei and Bandai, it was like "What the fuck's a Millenniummon?"
>>7249750214kids didn't dub Digimon. No. it was Saban that did itYou can literally blame the Jews for all of Digimon's localization bullshit since Saban was an Israeli company
>>724975818>what getting prime bug pussy does to an edgy teenager
>>724975940She do be riding my Infinity Cannon
>>724976003In fact, there was an interview some years back where Watanabe and Habu talked about this. Watanabe showed a general lack of familiarity with Millenniummon. He remembered Chimairamon, but to him Millenniummon was just "A Digimon that resembled Chimairamon". He had very little recollection of it.
>>724976123If memory served 4kids distributed it.
>>7249764324kids was not involved in any Digimon series. First three seasons were distributed by Fox, rest were Disney.
>>724954982Yeah, it's exactly what I wanted after a decade of ARPG slop.>>724967346Better than whatever dogwater you enjoy. It's a classic style JRPG in every sense of the word.>Zero moveset varietySkill issue on your part.>No movement or range mechanicsSo something that isn't important in JRPGs, got it >Get way more free actions than your enemyPlenty of bossfights on hard say "no" to that concept.>all your party members are completely interchangeable outside of their signature movesThen customize them into something different, you fucking idiot. Meanwhile, you're probably an ARPG fag or even worse - a Pokenigger
>>724976432Digimon was aired on Fox Kids and was in direct competition with WB Kids which is what 4kids put their dubbed shows on.
>>724976785Oh I see. It has truly been too longI think fox kids was also where shaman king was
>>724976762I like the game but he's not really wrong. Every digimon feels the same except for whatever unique move they have access to, which you typically just spam unless you have a weakness equipped to spam instead. It is quite dull and rigid as far as JRPG battle systems go.
>>724976762Bro, Time Stranger has the mechanical complexity of the original Dragon Quest game, it is so utterly barebones that I don't understand why think you haven't played this exact game 5 million times before. It has nothing whatsoever that makes it stand out>So something that isn't important in JRPGs, got it Ah, so you've never played an actual good JRPG, I see what's going on here
>>724967346So why are your blanket criticisms so focused at Time Stranger (Cyber Sleuth by extension) when games like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Persona, Chrono Trigger, and Pokemon (and dozens of other famous JRPGs) all have variations of these exact same problems?
>>724950809The battle with Olympos XII is way too long even with 5x speed
>>724977149Sounds like you've never customized your Digimon for any role, ever. Just slapping on attacks willy nilly with no thinking. Great job.I have in fact, and plenty of those other JRPGs >>724977249 (listed here) have variations of those exact same issues.
>>724977249Because this thread is focused on that specific game. Those other ones could also have issues, but they don't have Skullmamothmon either, so that's not important right now.
I liked Digimon Stories Cyber Sleuth and Hackers because the gameplay was like SMT. How do the other Digimon games play?
>>724977249Dragon quest characters(in the games that don't have job systems, in those you choose how to build them) have very defined and unique roles in battle, unlike in this game. Same for most FF games, persona, CT, and absolfuckinglutely for Pokemon. If you're acting like CS and TS has any comparable depth in its battle system to those games, you're pretty new to JRPGs.
>>724977442Digimon World 1 is like a tamagotchi with stats and a world to explore.>>724977512Nah Pokémon is also just rock paper scissors.
>>724977249Because for the most part, you're wrong and those criticisms don't apply. There's a handful of specific games where they do (FFVI would be an example, and I don't like that game, but even as far as that goes, it at least has something as basic as row system), but I would say for the most part those criticisms do not apply to most other JRPGs>>724977369>Sounds like you've never customized your Digimon for any roleThe game doesn't demand that you do, and it wouldn't mitigate the core issue either way since the signature move is still the only consideration you have when building a team
>>724977593Come on now. And before you get snippy and go B-BUT TS HAS ELEMENTS TOO!!! You can put any element attack on anything with zero restrictions, it's not really comparable at all.
>>724976003It's true that there was very little communication between the teams, otherwise mamuro hosoda wouldn't have baited taichi and sora in our war game. Yet there was enough communication to show ryo in our war game, and the changes between adventure and 02 don't make sense unless you consider the events in the ryo games to be cannon, from ken getting the dark spore (with an actual flashback) to suddenly the whole digital world having teleporting tvs everywhere, or the digimentals being available, etc.
>>724977593Rock paper scissors where the paper can be immune to scissors and somehow make the dynamite explode preentively if it attacks it and it can make so that the slow rock goes first, the rock also holds an item that absorbs the attack of the lamp while raising its stats, while creating a field that powers up moves of another type. So no, not the same thing at all.
>>724977802The number of what insta kills what means jack shit. Rock paper scissors and rock paper scissors gun dinosaur klingon rapist man the shocker are the same at the end of the day.
>>724977369>Sounds like you've never customized your Digimon for any role, ever.How is 9999 Combo Magic Titamon any different from 9999 Combo Magic Venusmon outside the signature moves?
>>724977969That competitive bullshit that never happens. When you fight the elite four, you have your Blaziken use fire kick on the ice one 4-6 times and you win.
I wonder if people think you start this game with max stats, they sure act like it.Fuark I need triple Ulforce back.
>>724964525Nigga really mad that people enjoy TS. The fact that this post in 100% unironic is even funnier.
>>724977921None of that stuff really required explanation. The Wonderswan team were more or less given a ton of freedom. Whenever the executives ordered the WS games to be referenced, the WS team just gave them some details but otherwise there wasn't a whole lot of care put into it. Making it so that Piemon survived getting tossed into HolyAngemon's Angel Hole, or making Millenniummon a Jogress of Mugendramon and Chimairamon were wholly the WS team's decision. Likewise, they turned Millenniummon into this supreme unholy dark god entirely on their own, hence why it's never as impressive in later appearances. A lot of the decisions made for the DS games were pretty unilateral.
>>724977987It matters a lot more in Pokemon because the game's battle structure is completely different and actually rather unique among JRPGs, very few have turn based 1v1s. Even in single player you need to have defensive pivots that can switch in and absorb the hits that would knock out your current monYou don't have to think about this at all in TS, not only because every fight is 4v3, but also because switching mons doesn't use an action
We will never be free of the pokefags
>>724964879>sales and player countI can't play either of those. Seethe.
>>724978373They only have 3 games on their platform, so they have a ton of extra time to shitpost the "other side"
>>724964879You idiotthe only thing sales and player counts means is how many normalfags are infesting your seriesfuck off
>>724978352>very few have turn based 1v1sFor good reason, it's boring as fuck.Still, my main issue is that when you start to remember what's super effective against what, you can start 1-shotting every fucking opponent. Strategy is just that one guy is red, so I need to use blue.
>>724978078The time you spent on the digifarm to get those stats. Might as well ask what's the difference between 2 pokemon with stats increased to 999 in hex editor>but i can't change the stats ingame that much in pokemonYeah, you also couldn't do it in cyber sleuth. Time stranger decided to sacrifice competitive balance and pvp to allow the player to use whatever digimon he wanted to complete the story, it's a design choice.
>>724978670I wish more game used turn based 1v1 for the simple fact that when the player has more than 1 party member, the enemy AI is ALWAYS too retarded to focus fire on just one party member, and you absolutely see that in TS>Strategy is just that one guy is red, so I need to use blue.Digimon has still never gotten farther than this in single player, Pokemon actually has thanks to shit like the Battle Frontier where you actually do have to try, bullshit as the BF can be
>pick up CyberSleuth on sale for only 5 usd>play on hard because that's how I usually play games>pick terriermon>can't even get past anything after the first tutorial battle because everything kills him in 2 hits while he slaps like a wet noodle>try and try and do different things without any success or progress>finally look it up online>people said to turn difficulty to normal or pick hagurumonThe fuck? What is this seriously?
>>724978992Dude, we get it, you need to understand that Digimon and Pokemon are different games never meant to be comparedA little bit and you will compare Yokai Watch to Pokemon because they have a pet mechanic
>>724979157>>724979157hard mode in CS/HM is for new game+, you'll get raped otherwise
>>724978309I mean, if you are one of those people that is just okay with whatever happens on screen and doesn't care about continuity, i can see why it wouldn't require explanation. But when the setting changes substantially between a series and it's direct sequel, I do require an explanation, especially when the whole plot of the sequel originates from events that happened in the games rather than the original series. And wordless, freeze frame screenshots within the actual anime are not enough context to explain anything.
>>724979157People say to pick Hagurumon not because he has any real advantages over Terriermon, but because you can evolve directly into a mon that gives you a 50% boost to exp gain when you use him in battleAnyway, yeah, hard can be a bit rough at the very beginning, but after you get a full team you shouldn't be having too much trouble until like the Demon Lord superboss quests
>>724979157>>people said to turn difficulty to normal or pick hagurumonThis is why you should always get advice from /v/ and not reddit.
>>724978992>shit like the Battle Frontier where you actually do have to try, bullshit as the BF can beI say the issue with this is that it only comes relevant after the story/main game is finished, instead of it being a part of the story to teach people to git gud. It being optional instead of a requirement will always hinder it.
>>724978992Have you never played a game where it did? It's annoying as fuck when you revive a guy, and then he gets slapped to death again. Unless you have a good tank drawing all the agro, you don't actually want that. It also makes team building feel fake since there's no team on the field. You are just changing forms at that point; you aren't trying to cover weaknesses and find synergy.>>724979157CS is just kinda shit.
>>724979157Hard mod is not for a first playthrough because of how they balanced it.
>>724979157CS Hard is an actual meme untested difficulty where all the enemies have +50% stats.Once you get the busted mons it turns easy again.
>>724979157Just keep normal mode until you have a team of 3 rookie digimon, after that you can switch to hard mode just fine.
>>724979157I played through hard mode entirely back on the vita version. It might have been different but I remember once I got pierce it made things go from manageable to a walk in the park.
>>724979567Pierce was retarded in CS which is why it's mostly removed from TS since every damage dealer without it was pointless on Hard.
>>724979157Welcome to CS
>>724979240You brought Pokemon up in the first placeIt's a good point of comparison because it does have its own identity as a series when it comes to gameplay. Digimon doesn't. Time Stranger should have been getting more complex and elaborate in order to develop an identity, not less complex and less elaborate. I think Cyber Sleuth was definitely better and more interesting, but even it was ultimately lacking because of its shallow movepool and failure to really do anything with the 3v3 format, They shouldn't have removed the lane system of the DS games
>>724979675It's really like I'm fighting Mot
>>724979449Man i really like the gameplay but i just want a challenge, not having my balls busted or doing said ball busting
>>724979675Good thing for ulforceveedramon.
>>724979309>brother died when he was 8>bad guy smells the Dark Seed on Ken at the brother's funeral>Ken got the Dark Seed later when he was olderThe writers probably should've tried a bit harder or not bother at all.
>>724979793You won't get that in CS, it's a cheese fest.
>>724979653>since every damage dealer without it was pointless on Hard.Maybe for youI use Shine Greymon Burst mode every time I play Digimon because I'm that much of a Saversfag, and uh, yeah, the lack pierce literally doesn't matter. I've had teams where I used Dorugoramon and got through without issue. Even Hard mode CS isn't as hard as people make it out to be, there's just a few very specific spots where it's obnoxious
>>724977802I like how this system is apparently as straightforwards as you can make it, yet the vast majority of pokemon youtubers trying out time stranger can't figure out how it works even when the game is telling them the exact damage modifiers beforehand.
>>724979675It's funny cause it seems like it's an edited memebut it's not.
>>724979926feels like this is the norm in digimon games...
>>724980025How do you cheese redigitize?
>>724980025Digimon games usually aren't known for being balanced or properly challenging experiences
>>724980007It's just literally the norm
>>724980007>>724980137how tf do you counter that
>>724950809I realized how weak i am when a fucking clown in a power loader scrubbed the floor with my mega digimon. This game does everything in its power to make you feel like you have plushies by your side and not vicious fucking monsters. I hate this so fucking much. i felt like Cyber sluts was too long and boring but i hate pandering to difficulty fags. Even SMT was better than this.
>>724979916...So you can't decide between ken getting the dark seed before his brother's funeral or later when he was older, and you complain that the 02 writers didn't try enough?>>724980093But they are properly challenging experiences more often than not, the problem is that the challenge is repetitive grinding.
>>724980186It's been so long as you can tell by the dates but from what I recall, items and Phantom Pain
>>724980186he kills himself if you poison him. You can also use jesmon to negate all damage and auto counter.
>>724980186use faster digimon and don't let him buff himself up so much (or buff yourself to compensate)IIRC they don't have too much health either so all you need is two or three solid accel boosted hits to win
>>724979997I've been watching a lot of people try out time stranger, and the amount of times I can count people picking up on the vaccine/virus/data relationship has been roughly 4 out of 72 videos I've seen. A lot don't seem to realize that the relationship affects all moves by the holder. I know Agumon is like the earliest digivolution, but I wonder if balancing the early game around him was a good move. Maybe if more enemies use character reverse?
>>724980271>...So you can't decide between ken getting the dark seed before his brother's funeral or later when he was olderNot me to decide, that's how it is presented in the show. Ken got Millenniumon's Dark Seed before and after his brother died at the same time.
>>724980193>I realized how weak i am when a fucking clown in a power loader scrubbed the floor with my mega digimonthat happened to me too, and the reason is that in the damage calculation level is more important than stats, that guy is like level 50 and my recently evolved mons are level 15-19 so i do almost no damage and he two shots my mons
>>724980193I actually liked that fight on my end. Since I play with debuffs in mind and charge skills, it took quite a bit of effort to really take him down properly, even when my team was close to being his level. I haven't unlocked megas by then, but I was like 100 points away from it. Having no weakness sucked though, especially when he started spamming accuracy down.
>>724950970Wait, it does? I did all the sidequests first and assumed they were all intended to be done in the post-game because the shambala group references not being at the final fight when you talk to them, even before the fight takes place.
>>724980659No? The show shows he got the dark seed before his brother died, and over time it grew with the expectations his parents placed on him until it consumed him and he became the digimon emperor. The show did make a continuity error in how he was dressed, but not the timing
It's weird seeing people all had trouble with the power loader guy, I beat him first try with no issueOnly boss I couldn't beat first try was Junomon since she disabled items leaving me without any healing
>>724981204Where you level 19 like >>724980671?
>>724981204I beat Junomon first try but only because of what I assume to be a strange bug where she kept wasting turns as my last two surviving mons slowly chunked her down from 15% HP
>>724981249I had heard about level mattering more than stats or something, so I was generally trying to keep my levels high, but did have one or two fresh evolves that I loaded some mons to get up to like lv 36 or so. I forget what exactly I usedI wish the game had some sort of record screen for which mons you like using most outside of the end credits reel
>>724981101>The show did make a continuity error in how he was dressedNot just clothes, age, but you're right, I misspoke. I meant the animation staff and director should have tried harder. Still a minor fault when compared to Ken's crest.
>Got reminded Ryo existsI hate that piece of shit so fucking much.
>>724982012It's fine, Mirei is the new Ryo.
>>724982259How does Ryo and Milleniumon factor into Lui's wish?
>>724955153Kunlun is only here because Homeostasis told him to get off his ass. He's doing the bare minimum.
>>724982362He doesn't because he doesn't. Same with how Kizuna factors into The Beginning.
>>724982259I would unironically prefer Ryo, it would be really damn funny for Ryo to pop up and be like "I don't know how the fuck I got here, just more of Zeed's shenanigans I assume. Seems like I'm stuck here so I'm just making myself comfortable until Justimon comes and saves me. I think that computer over there lets you use the farm, knock yourself out"
>>724982593Ryo's Monodramon IS Zeed
>>724982703Due to infinite parallel timelines multiple versions of Ryo's partner exist simultaneously in Brave Tamer itself
>>724982815Monodromon force fuses with Milleniumon to contain it, that's why he's tard wrangling Cyberdramon in Tamers
