https://store.steampowered.com/app/3669620/Warhammer_Survivors/i hate video games so much
>>725016294wow this is totally an isolated incidentit's so unheard of for unoriginal and uncreative developers to make derivative games based on other successful oneswhat a fucking travesty this is in all honesty
that's cutehonestly I'd like more literal paint jobs for franchises I like
>>725016294just wishlisted it
Why didn't they just do a crossover with vamp surfers like all the other IPs
>>725016294>age of smegma
>>725016294I am not bothered by this game, I won't buy it, but I'm not gonna be seething about it either
>>725016294sweet thanks for letting me know this exists I wishlisted it :)
>supports E-mailwut
>>725016873Jew Workshop want you to pay MORE.
>>725016351The problem is there's only two genres on the market right now. Friendslop (picrel), and vampire survivors clones. Both shit genres. Nothing else gets made.
>>725016873Because people that don't own VS would have to buy it and the DLC. Now 40K enjoyers will just buy the 40k product.
>>725017019which genre would you say gives you more "boss baby" vibes
>>725017117>40KNigger at least check what you're shitposting about
>>725016294lmao 40k has has almost negative quality control when it comes to their game adaptations. It might have the highest ratio of slop compared to actual good games I've ever seen
>>725017141retard
>>725017141
>>725016920>but I'm not gonna be seething about it eitherI'm still seething over what 40K turned into after 7th ED. I'm seething less over the death and replacement of Warhammer Fantasy due to The Old World being a thing, but it's still not the same.
>>725017202It's crazy, every time a few good games come out, I think Games Workship has changed, then I check the actual list of Warhammer tie-inshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_Workshop_video_games#Warhammer_40,000They're still releasing mobile slop yearly
>>725017202Which is exactly how Games Workshops operates with everything.Constant retcons and fanfictions by authors, 40k is just a skin to put over your shitty story or game. You just have to know the right people.
>>725017280>what 40K turned into after 7th EDqrd for someone who only knows 40k from vidya?
The only consolation in life right now is that humanity is definitely going to end itself promptly.
indie slop devs try to be creative challenge (impossible)
>>725017280>killing Fantasy just so they could rename everything and make it trademarkable Seriously fuck these Jews. I hope someone puts a bomb under the car of whoever's idea that was.
>>725017579Sorry anon but corporations will always look for profit, at least i got my Big Pig out of it, I love the Big Pig, and much of the model range really>>725017381James Jameshop did a big setting update, Cadia got blown up(good fuck guardfags), primarchs made a return(bad, fuck horus heresy fags) and new space marines+ replaced old ones(bad because it was frankly pointless)Oh and Imperium got split in two by a big super warpstorm which I feel like they fumbled by not having Imperium on the other side of the rift not disintegrate with hundreds of smaller states
>>725017579It is hard to see many other kinds of futures of fantasy Warhammer sadly. The old Warhammer Fantasy Battle was seen as an objectively unwanted product line in the end, WH40K was outselling it so vastly.
>>725017824Isn't that more or less the same thing they did with WHF
>>725017019>Nothing else gets made.If you're actually serious about this sentiment then lmao you deserve your misery you fucking retard.
>>725017019this is your brain when you're born after 9/11
>>725017887Not really, 40k continues, but is just updated as a setting and keeps trucking alongFantasy was killed with series of dogshit books and replaced by a completely different setting whose first edition was really rushed
>>725017381>GW bringing back Primarchs which is in fact proof of creative bankruptcy>Primaris Marines being soulless replacements that aim for the CoD audience (don't get me started on their model range being mostly idiotic like all but one model in the Vanguard Primaris)>Even more retarded renamings like Aeldari which makes my eyes and ears bleed>Squats not only renamed as Votann as a faction, but also feeling soulless instead of going full Deep Rock Galactic mixed with WHFB Dwarfs>GW pushing for more woke idiocies like Femstodes and gaslighting people telling them Female Custodes existed despite the fact that Custodes were a brotherhood since 2nd Edition>A good chunk of current models looking more and more idiotic and too clean and sanitized (the Plague Marines are less rot, rust, pus-filled blisters and hanging out guts and much more mutations and bellymouths)>Cadia blown up>Xenos being relegated to the background in favor of more Imperium and Chaos conflicts>>725017579Don't have to do it. Let them keep hiking prices until people will stop buying their models because there won't be anything left for other things.
>>725018008>Xenos being relegated to the background in favor of more Imperium and Chaos conflictsTo be fair, that one isn't new
>>725018053But in this case it's even worse.When was the last time a new Tyranid Hive Fleet came and made everyone soil their pants?And I remember that this was ALWAYS a massive issue for the galaxy when a new Hive Fleet appeared and every other faction took it as a shit hits the fan-tier serious situation.
>>725016294Looks like a mod for Vampire Survivors
>>725018923They licensed the engine from the dev, so yes it's quite literally just a VS palette swap
>>725016294Why is this not a dlc, who the fuck approved of this
>>725019178My friend who 100% vamp serfs over the last few months while listening to podcasts and shit says it's smart to start over with a new game instead of making a DLC, because with the DLCs you can just use the OP main game weapons to get all the DLC shit in 1 game
>>725016294>cant play as orkzshit game
>>725019497I dont get the hype behind croissant.
>>725019986This. It lacks the seasoning, needs some more chili and pepper.
>Zoomer Game>Plays itself>Dogshit mobile tierName a more iconic duo KEK>NOUHUH BRUH MY STREAMER PLAYED IT ITS POOGER MEGABONKERS BRO U DONT GET IT ITS LE ADDICTIVE BREHlmao fucking loser generation
>>725019263>My friend who 100% vamp serfs over the last few months while listening to podcastsReally hope your friend's a she because otherwise there's no excuse for being friends with a 14 year old if you're an adult.
>>725016351>derivative games based on other successful onesYou didn't even look at the trailer, they're literally working with Poncle on this game.
>>725016294>>725016351>>725017012>warhammer fags are MAD about thisWhy though?
>>725017824>other side of the rift not disintegrate with hundreds of smaller states...it did. Imperium Nihilus is not just the primary power structure on that side, but also the only one that's making an attempt at decentralization. Everyone else outside of it is fighting for themselves or are long dead from when the rift opened. We just didn't hear a lot about those stories because there's only so many ways you can say "and they arrived at the world to find nothing but chaos worship/bones."
>>725016294So the Skaven and Tyranid enemies are going to be just lazy reskins of eachother, right? Surely they won't bother making 2 separate enemy rosters just to then lock half the playable character form encountering other half's enemies?
>>725020268OH MY CHIMCHANGAS NO FUKKEN POGGERSTHE STOLEN CASTLEVANIA SPRITES ICESCAKERSTS...ON...LEFUKKENORIGINAL ENGINE?!?!?!??!?1/1/#NO FUKKEN WAY ZOOMSISTERS THIS SLAPS
>>725020405Warhammer fans are trying to gatekeep years too late. It's already over. The star wars rapefugees are already in the house.
>>725020485>lazy reskinsIs there any vampire survivors enemy that does anything other than walk towards the player?
>>725020124>>Plays itselfLmao you have no idea what you're talking about.>be you>be extremely butthurt that people enjoy something you perceive as "casual">make up random things and hope they stick so you can be "superior">get called out and now look like a tard
>>725020609Fucking retard
>>725016294I'm tired of spess mehreen slop, let me play as other factions for once
>>725020534>getting THIS madLmao
>>725016294Thanks but no thanks. I already have HoloCure.
>>725020635>getting angrier
>>725017824God i love pigs. Fuck whichever retard at GW decided to add 1 companion token Squig to Ironjawz, keep that shit in gitz
>>725017381Eldars allied themselves with the fanatical xenocidal Black Templars to wake up Guirlyman using a serum created by Cawl the Omnipotent. Guirlyman woke up, saw how shit everything was, and asked Cawl the Omnipotent to "unleash the super space marines".It turns out that Cawl the Omnipotent was tasked by Guirlyman to create 100,000 super space marines in secret with super space marines armors and weapons by stealing the genes of all loyalist chapters and cryofreezing the product. No one ever noticed. But it was easy, as Cawl the Omnipotent managed to improve the space marines to create super space marines, what no one ever managed to do succesfuly in the history of the adMech, ever (look the 13 foundation, aka the Cursed Foundation).Guirlyman said to all loyalist chapters Cawl the Omnipotent had 100,000 super space marines created using their stolen genetic legacies, space marines they themselves never trained, and it would be cool if you accepted those dudes. The loyalist chapters proceeded to accept into their own chapters those super space marines of dubious loyalty create from their stolen genetic legacies happily.All of that to sell super space marines mini to space marines players who already had their own armies. This is only the start of the retardation.
>>725021045>13 foundationYou meant 21st, fren
>shitty flash game isn't freewhat a surprise
>>725021045I really don't know why they needed to add Primaris, like if GW wanted model refresh then sure, why not?New weapons? Easy, have Cawl still make them or somethingNew tactics? Why Gorillaman woke up, probably feels like there is a need for military reformsThat's why I dislike Primaris really, the utter pointlessness of their existence
>>725016294Should've been 40K and The Old World instead of Age of Smegma
>>725020781I can forgive Klonk because his name is Klonk and the sole purpose of his existence is to get hit in the head with a hammer
>>725016873Cool it with the antisemitism
>>725016294I honestly wish star wars would whore out like this. EA having a monopoly of the IP sucks ass.
>>725021240The old word is being phased out after you failed to buy any of it last year.
>>725021178The actual reason GW made primaris was "marine players are whales, they'll buy entire new armies if we obsolete their old ones".And they did.
>>725021605They dont any more and haven't for years.
>>725021605Didn't EA lose the monopoly years ago? The brand is just so dead nothing comes out
>>725021605>making a new game is "whoring out"
>>725021757>>725021861Seems like ubisoft made the latest game, but thats not really saying much. I want lucas arts tier IP licensing, where we were getting a new star wars game every month. 40k is like that, so Disney are clearly to blame here for being so stingy with it.
>>725016294Why are you surprised warhammer franchise has shit game?Warhammer franchise is SHIT so 3verything about it is shit.If you enjoyed some of that shit that does not mean it was not shit.>captchaS S H Y T
>>725016294>100%'d Vampire Survivors a few years back>Replaying it with a fresh save because all the DLC went on save plus there's a new DLCI'm gonna buy this too.
>>725022000Lucas was involved in the creation of games, GW doesn't have a gaming division
>>725016294Thats such a fucking great idea. Hey op, don't worry, i think you can go cool down on pol or something, you don't like games anyway.
>>725021178What's even funnier, chaos got same model changes... without any dumb rewrites. Recently made models are noticeably larger just because, of course those are same marines. All of them have new statline, would be crazy to explain model changes with some dumb lore. Heh.
>>725016294I kinda want to play it lmao.
>>725016294>Can play as the Astra MilitarumWishlisted
>>725017824>Rift splits the galaxy in two with the "safe" edges being conquered by various xenos>Random bullshit happens to give everyone on the wrong side of the Maelstrom PrimarisAfter that shit happened I dropped basically everything. Could've at least done something interesting by giving fancy updated high tech Cawl brand marines to half and have the others like Blood Angels do some much less organized experimenting to make Black Rage berserkers.
>>725021991GW doesn't make games, they license out the IP to anybody who pays.
Ask me anything
>>725023270Why didn't you get all the achievements, retard?
>>725023343Because I only recently bought the DLC.
>>725020534holy shit imagine being THIS mad at being called out for being a fucking retard that doesn't understand how companies work.
>>725021045jesus that's some convoluted mess I hope GW gets fired for this.
>>725017117>40k product.This is the AoS product, given the AoS side is gonna be hard carrying the fun department
>>725023270wasting all that time and yet no achievements? utterly pathetic holy shit
>>725023647>warhammer tards can't readMaybe it's a good thing new people are getting into your franchise, you're too stupid.
>>725016294Is it that cheap to get a game license for WH derivative games?
>>725023720Always has been.
>>725016294I would never buy a vs-like when Holocure is free.
>>725023720Yes, that's why there's billion of them
>>725023720the game is development by the owners of the WH license, you retard.
>>725023778That's the point. Some randos bought the licence and are making this. This isn't worked on by James Workshop himself
>>725023778"Auroch Digital" are not the owners of 40k.
>>725017202ThisWarhammer 40k fans got cocky with a handful of good titles over two DECADES (Space Marine, Dawn of War, Boltgun, Mechanicus, Rogue Trader) and suddenly forgot the humble beginnings of being an outlet for awful shovelware
>>725023908Yeah they just so happen to be located within blocks of Games Workshop's HQs and constantly make warhammer games AND its explicitly told they are buddies with themhttps://www.aurochdigital.com/aboutGet real
>>725023984Do you also think Sega owns warhammer fantasy?
>>725023984Auroch is unfortunately owned by Tencent
>40k side will only be Imperihm characters>AoS side will only be Warhammer+ animated series characters>Game will launch, die within a week, and never get post-release updates
>>725024042Yes.
>>725017019Supermarket Together is peak freekino fuck you
>>725024191>die within a weekIt's a fucking singleplayer game you can play it 10 years from now like it just released
>>725023627lmao what.People are gonna buy this for 40k and Boltgun Man. GW can only hope that players gain some recognition for AoS when they play as their characters to get their money's worth.
>>725024139who isn't?
>>725016294Sure you do shillbot.
>>725019986butter, butter, more butter
>>725017117lol
>>725024268Yeah but no one will be discussing it online then, so what's the point of playing?
>>725024435da fuq
>>725024191AoS side is only 1/3 WH+. It's 3/3 Black Librery shit though.Plus both 40k and AoS have some literal who OCs revealed
>>725021178>I really don't know why they needed to add Primaris, like if GW wanted model refresh then sure, why not?>New weapons? Easy, have Cawl still make them or somethingIn an alternate timeline people are absolutely seething over those additions not knowing how much worse it could have been.
>>725023571It's not only convoluted, it's also several kind of lore destroying, so much GW was forced to backpedal a little bit. Pre-7th edition, Guilliman telling, says, the Dark Angel that Cawl stole their Geneseed in secrets to create Primaris would have resulted in civil war. Unironically. Not a single second founding chapter would have left that unpaid except of course the Ultramarines and successors.And accepting those randos in the chapters? Not a chance. But it's just glossed over "welllll, Guilliman asked very nicely... and they needed reinforcements... and then everyone was kinda ok about it. Not entirely but then they just said ok."Then things like Blood Angels Primaris being immune to the chapter curses, which removes the primary reason any players would have to play Blood Angels, which is completely unnecessary. Or Guilliman deciding to unveil the Grey Knights so they are public now. You know, the ultra secret order that was once super secretly fighting daemons? Or etc... Fuck I hate nulore.Then there is the nunulore of 2024, which has the Emperor fighting chaos Gods 1v1 unironically and it's not a fanfic but I gave up by this point.
Why is 40k so much more popular than fantasy? I feel like its designs are kind of boring and samey. It'd be like if 90% of fantasy was just the human races.
>>725025098Because 40k's inspiration was obscure shit like Dune and Starship Trooper nobody normal ever heard of and fantasy's inspiration was 1000 more popular LotR that overshadowed it
>>725025202Other LOTR knock offs are pretty popular.
>>725025098High price of entryRank and file games require a lot of minis, which means a lot of money to spend, and a lot of time to assemble and paint them
>>725025098Space Marines.People can try and explain it in other eays, but it's Space Marines.People like space soldier in neat armor. It's why Stormtroopers in Star Wars are vastly more recognized than the Rebels, for example.Marines make up more than half of all Warhammer profits at absolute minimum. Honestly it's probably closer to 3/4ths now.It's why Age of Sigmar primarily focuses on Stormcast, who were originally designed to be Fantasy Space Marines, until the rewrites happened. Due to this, an overwhelming majority of 40k content is centered around Marines because GW believes that advertising what's already popular is the best way to move forward, and given 40k's increasingly drastic success it seems they're right.
>>725025430Name 35
Why would I play this over Halls of Torment or Megabonk?
>>725025098WHFB is another historical fantasy setting where most factions are monster templates rather than actually interesting places and people40K's grimdark future is something unique to itself and it's much cooler
>>725025613Basically every single high fantasy game is just a rip off of tolkien. Sometimes they get quirky with it with more custom races, but overall its all derivative of his work.
>>725025698>high fantasy gameNone of them are more popular than Total Warhammer.
>>725025794Evidently not because Fantasy fucking died and MESBG didn't
>>725025674because I already finished halls of torment and megabonk looks like shit
>>725025430Only truely mainstream ones are Skyrim, thanks to Todd inventing snadbox games and Game of Thrones, which is directly antagonistic to LotR's ideals
>>725025794Fantasy is so dead not even the old world reboot saved it.
>>725025931and world of goycraft
>>725026083>>725025823>talking about tabletop shit no one cares aboutThis is a video games board
>>725026132I haven't met a single person who knows Warcraft lore. I think that's jsut China pumping up the numbers outisde of the brief 2000s MMO craze which was more about the game type than franchise
>>725026150Call me when they make Total War Lord of the Rings so we can compare those then. Right now we can compare wfb GW game to a lotr GW game
>>725026150What IP do you think the OP image is based of off? I'll give you a hint: it's a tabletop game.
>>725026251>Call me when they make Total War Lord of the Rings
>>725016294WHY IS IT ALWAYS SPACE MARINESWHY IS IT ALWAYS THE FUCKING ULTRAMARINES
>>725026443>WHY IS IT ALWAYS SPACE MARINESBecause you don't buy the games without them>WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE FUCKING ULTRAMARINESPoster boys
>>725026563>you don't buy them without space marinesWrong again idiot, I bought fire warrior because it didn't have sphess mareeensI just wish it was a good game.
>>725016294A shovelware 40k game? Never happened before.
>pixelslop instead of real art style and graphics I'm tired
>>725026251>Call me when they make Total War Lord of the RingsThat's just a more boring Warhammer
>>725026330While cool, this is just an overhaul mod. Its not different than those mods that add new races to TWW3, when people still want official implementations.
Based. Survivor slop bros we eating good.
>>725016294I think it's funny how AoS has to tag along with 40k to trick people into caring about it in the vidya scene just like GI Joe does with Transformers in comics.
>>725017202The way GW deals with media ties ins and ect is the most ass backwards ridiculous thing ever when you hear about how it actually works>GW has an internal rule that no media or book or game is allowed to have any characters that either do not either have a TT model or something that can be equivovated as that character For example when the CA was making total Warhammer, they were not allowed to come up with new units, they would have to go through a GW advisor and work backwards up the chain to get it approved. GW should be doing what LucasArts was doing in the early 2000s, 40k was created speificly for that , but instead they are doing it totally backwards
>>725016294Warhammer is the worst fucking IP in existence. Warhammer has the most mid games imaginable pumped out by ripping off every popular game they can and slapping on their spess muhreeeee coat of paint on everything.I think someone involved with this IP got so bootyblasted by Blizzard somehow salvaging this shit with Warcraft that they pledged to do what Blizzard did to them with the entire industry. It didn't work lmao
Funny how people pretend to be mad at Vampire Survivors now.
>>725023973Darktide was pretty fun too
>>725027129More like they're branching out as much as they can so their business doesn't collapse thanks to 3D printers getting better every year. They also had a big boost during covid and want to keep the infinite growth going.But yes a lot of the games as a result are very forced rather than made by devs who wanted to make Warhammer games.
>>725027259Yeah, after like 5 years of fixes, and they're still trying to unfuck it's disastrous launch.
>>725027428I just wonder who keeps buying those mediocre games. Why cling to such a shitty IP? Is it really about the autists who collect figurines?
>>7250172807th ed was a garbage fire
>>725016294>40kxAoSI hope you're all ready for them to just fucking give up and merge the settings since everyone refuses to give a shit about AoS alone
>>725028073GW is all about increased separation now. Which is why 40k was already removed from chaos demon packaging and the rules will soon fallow
>>725016294I've never played one of these survivors games but this has kind of caught my attention from this threadOn the other hand>age of sigmarIf they weren't allowed to do old world they shouldn't have bothered with the fantasy side at allI'll buy it if it's less than 15 AUD
>>725017019I don't think peak counts as friendslop in the same way as those other ones, it has an endpoint you're meant to reach.Phasmo and clones don't really count eitherI like actual friendslop too though
>>725024435most single-player games don't have discussions past their first year of release. Discussions are not required to have fun playing it, retard-kun
>>725019497There's no way in hell there's not gonna be a playable ORK surely
>>725016873As someone with 242 cheevos in Vampire Survivors, at this point it's so bloated with content that anything added gets completely drowned out. The SaGa and Balatro content was just a two-hour checklist of playing as each character for ten minutes to check off the box while using the same busted swath of Foscarri and Castlevania items to effortlessly nuke everything on the screen.
>>725028903>242/243 achievementsWhat are you posting here for? My OCD wouldn't allow me to do anything else besides getting that achievement.I have 243 achievements and I'm looking forward to the QOL update to make the character select screen manageable again and extra save slots to see how the game as a whole plays now. I also really like Adventures but I know many people don't care for them.
>literally just a VS reskin, using the same enginehow low can warhammer go
>>725029190Not him but I have a few games where I'm one achievement short but will never do it because it's usually stuff like "ok now replay the entire game again in hard mode" or whatever
>>725016294The Tyranid warriors are absurdly overrepresented. Space Marine 2 has the same issue.
>>725029321Oh I know that shit, I've been missing the Resident Evil 4 beat the game on Professional for close to a decade.I just can't fathom what it would be in the case of Vampire Survivors. I can only think of one achievement that would take longer than 30 minutes if he has everything else and that one isn't even that bad.
>>725016294It's actually called warhammer survivors?? I thought this was a meme.
I think more franchises should do this like elder scrolls and fallout and stuff like final fantasyvery easy low cost game that would generate a good amount of interest until a new aaa game is out
>>725029190The last achievement is for finishing that To End an Ice Age adventure. It was kind of a pain so I held off on it. Now that it's the only one left, I'll probably knock it out when I'm in the mood to play again. Can't be worse than that retarded "Banish 80 weapons in one run" cheevo.
i still have army of ruin to playand spirit huntersand keeper's tolland jotunnslayerand spirit brigade
>>725030136It used to be like that, back in the day. This was mostly the niche AA games filled, but now a days its a rare sight. I wish Nintendo would outsource their IPs more, like the crypt of the necrodancer zelda game for example.
Deep Rock survivor still clears (I hate the ice dmg milestone)
>>725030402I never thought I'd be nostalgic for the days when everything under the sun got a Musou spinoff.
just looking at the images it looks very lazy somehow more lazy than vampire survivors....very impressive!
>>725030136It's called a mobile game and many franchises do it
>>725028410play the classics like brotato
>>725030205Yeah, I had a feeling it was that one. It's not that bad and that Banish 80 weapons achievement was a bigger pain.Remember you can use Arcanas in Adventures if you want to trivialize the whole thing. I had to ban Mad Groove and Hail from the Future to make the game interesting.Just throw on a podcast or two and you can clean it up pretty quick.
>>725016294>i hate indie* video games so muchftfy
>>725030472I really liked the bloodstained NES spin off game, more than the actual main title. Wish more studios would do that kind of shit.
Magic Survival on phone is great too
I'm tired of having to play as the Imperium in pretty much every Warhammer game. I know humans are the best and superior race, but just let me play as other factions for once
>>725032413Yo had TWO ork games and YOU let them die.
>>725019497We had two Ork games recently.
>>725028595Name me the most recent book (full novel not an army book) or animation where an ork was the main character. That guy will be in
>>725032610Because they were not fun games
>>725032413The Imperium are the protagonists of 40k. Xenos are NPCs who exist to be gunned down, while Chaos are the antagonists.
>>725032413Play Dakka Squadron
>>725016294>m-muh barbie world is not your meal ticketOh no, anyways.
>>725032745>posting shit written 40 years ago from someone who hasn't been in volved with the franchise for over a decadelaughing at you
For every decent Warhammer game you know about, there's five trash ones you've never heard of
>>725033196>AoS>Aeldari>Over 40 years ago
>>725033286>>AoS>>Aeldari>>Over 40 years ago
>>725017019>only look up popular FOTMslop>get popular FOTMslop
>Drukhari>Aeldari
>>725028508>popular game isn't bad thing because its just not okaylol okay slopslopper
Alright retards, I finally bought Total Warhammer 3 in a bundle. Never played one of these, what am I in for?
>>725035360Total Warhammer 3
>>725035360Waste of money
Thanks but I'll stick to Darktide.
>>725035523I was more interested in that crab game anyway. I guess I could have pirated it and avoided contact with total warhammer but it would rub me the wrong way doing that for a small studio's game.
>>725032679So Da Red Gobbo. Ghazghkull Thraka and Makari if we go back further. Pretty good choices honestly.
>>725035790Play Etrian Odyssey, it's the best game in that bundle.
>>725016294>Age of Shitmar over Warhammer FantasyYes GW we get it, you want to push the ground marines.
>>725036016Red Gobo rather obviously isn't an Ork.
>>725020405They aren'tI'm a warhammer fan who like vampire survivors and I'm looking forward to thisthe poeple who are complaining are the same doomer faggots who complain about FUCKING EVERYTHING because they either think (you)'s are currency that impress anyone, or that being a contrarian loser is a replacement for a personality
>>725036467TOW revival flopped, so it's not like they have a real choice
>>725036525Then what is he?
>>725020575I've gotten into Warhammer throgh DoW 1 when that released, proceeded to read the books and play Warhammer related vidya while never ever touching a figuring or getting close to the Tabletop. It has been over for decdes. Tabletopfags lost.GW finally waking up to reality and shilling out its precious IP for all sorts of vidya slop was long overdue.
>>725017019Crab Game isn't friendslop.
>>725036743A goblin. They're both greenskins, but a rat is not a capybara, even if they're both rodents
>>725036609Every single shitmarine game flopped while TW fantasy and Vermintide did great
>>725016294wishlisted
>>725016351>>725016294It's developed by the guy who made Vampire Survivor just funded by someone else. It's not derivative or a clone. It is in all intents and purposes standalone Vampire Survivor DLC.
>>725036571>as a slop eater I like to eat slop, more slop please gameworkshop
>>725017019fag
>>725023270Only 95 hours?
>>725037056Looks healthy to me.
>>725037056Cool, and they earned GW $10 total at the end. It's a wast of their time to focus on a setting that can't sell models, GW's main income source
>>725037343My mistake in spelling , I meant sigmarine shit not space marine
>>725036897Well then I guess I'm a racist cause when you say Orks I think of Gretchin too.
>>725016294Cool. Thanks for telling us I just wishlisted
>>725016294This shit is made with ai right?
>>725037441Bleak.
>>725036859>tags>Psychological Horror>Multiplayer>Free to Play>Battle RoyaleDon't lie to yourself anon.
>>725018008>>Squats not only renamed as Votann as a faction, but also feeling soulless instead of going full Deep Rock Galactic mixed with WHFB DwarfsBut that's exactly what they fucking are?
>>725037680Friend slop is 4-player horror co-op. Crab Game is a Fall Guys type of game instead.
>>7250172807th edition was dog shit and is directly responsible for why 8th edition and beyond occurred in the first place. Much like the Star Wars prequels directly leading to the bullshit of the Disney films
>>725037836Friendslop is any game where getting on Discord and shooting the shit is more important than the actual game.
>>725037642When will GW finally get the hint and cancel shitmar?
>>725016351the first post of this thread is indeed the best post of the threadand i know this without looking at the others
>>725032745>the imperium>chaos*marines and chaos marines
>>725038184And let their brilliantly copyrighted OGORS and DUARDIN and AELVES go?
>>725037170>gameworkshopgamesworkslop is a missed opportunity.shame on you.
>>725020405No one who owns models is mad about this
>>725019986its bread that tastes goodand it is both crispy AND fluffy>butsorry but you have simply never had a good one>butno really.it also has to be freshwithin a couple hours after coming out of the oven
>>725038309Necrons will save every one. Trust the plan.
>>725019986Learn how to bake them for yourself. It's a little tough but it makes for exceptionally good sandwhich bread if you make one fresh out of the oven.
>>725032656yeh and both of them were shitdawn of war 4 is going to have playable orks in it tooand its probably gonna suck
>>725038589they are probably a mutt who has never had real bread let alone french bread in their entire lives
>>725038184AoS moves too much plastic for GW to ever consider Squatting it. Remember, GW is a plastic toy company before anything else. The video games, books, animations, and all the other shit is merely advertising for the plastic.
>>725017019>Nothing else gets made.how tf can you say this right after the release of Battlefield 6 and Europa Universalis V?
>>725038865No way it’s moving so much plastic. People love buying supplementary shit to setting they play in, yet everything related to Age of Sigmar flops so bad you’d think setting is completely dead with no fans
>>725039076I think, tentatively, as peering into the mind of a schizophrenic is difficult, that Battlefield 6's squads qualify it as Friendslop and EUV's a turn-based survivorslike in the loosest sense.
>>725038184because normie-nerds enjoy playing age of shitmar
>>725039228i'm impressed
>>725016873Given it's literally being made in the Vampire Survivors engine which they're licensing from Poncle, I imagine the idea of a collab was floated before Auroch decided to just do it themselves.The most expensive VS DLC being like 2.50 was probably a factor in that decision.
>>725038517Too busy partying.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO4Aa6CFNi4
Will this be rhe first 40k game where Yvraine is playable?
>>725040616Nobody at GW remembers Eldar exist, they probably weren't even included in the licence by mistake and no one noticed
>>725040871>Nobody at GW remembers Eldar existBro they got one of the biggest and most successful refresh waves of this edition
>>725041370Plus they're also more relevant than ever.
>>725041440>relevantNobody wants to be relevant to the modern 40k narrative
QRD on how Age of Sigmar is different than old Warhammer fantasy?
>>725041543>Nobody wants to be relevantTell that to the necron players.
>>725041669It's Warhammer Fantasy but since people had to buy new models they act like GW kicked their dog and they never want to forgive them.
>>725016294>More kiting gamesVampire Survivors has done immeasurable damage to the industry.
>>725041669Age of Sigmar is "we want the modern audience" the wargameQuirky chungus writing, canonized LGBTQP+ characters, bottom-shelf space marines without anything that makes space marines cool, no coherent game world just floating "realms" where anything goes so you don't have to worry about following a coherent story or timeline of events
>>725019986Similar to a lot of baked goods you need to eat them fresh. There's a ton of stuff i'd never eat unless I got it freshly made straight from a bakery for breakfast or lunch
>>725040616Elf feet
>>725041669They wanted to try to appeal to 40k fans and casuals whilst also trying to hang on to their Fantasy fansIt's mostly failed and relies purely on weak nostalgiabaiting and the quality of the new models, which are decent, but everything else is fucking rancid toilet water
>>725037836>Crab Game is a Fall Guys type of game instead.So Friendslop just instead of WACKY BEANS XD it's Squid Game themed. Got it.
>necron not spelled with a kWhat the fuck I just realized
>>725041669Its basically Phantasy, but copyrighteable. Same reason why nu-40k came around with Space Marines being called "Astartes" (fake), or the Imperial Guard being transitioned into the "Astra Militarum"(gay). Both of these terms can be copyrighted, the originals can not.
>>725017141kek
>>725042279>how do we appeal to 40K fans and casual wargamers?>Strong black womyn yeah that's what they lovelollmao
>>725041669Warhammer Fantasy is Mid-High 'Normal' Fantasy. Magic isn't rare but isn't common and things are fairly 'grounded'. Gods and higher beings often only act rarely and indirectly, and are less characters and more natural forces.Age of Sigmar is High Cosmic Fantasy. Magic is very common, and the setting leans much more into mythical elements. Gods are actual characters who directly interact with their factions and can even take the field in major conflicts.>>725042113>no coherent game world just floating "realms" where anything goes so you don't have to worry about following a coherent story or timeline of eventsIt's funny how you got that completely wrong since they've had a set timeline since 2E along with several ongoing plots over time. Hell, Skaven just blew up half of the 'main' realm that had a lot of focus.
>>725042113>following a coherent story or timeline of eventsFucking lol. AoS is the only setting where the world "timeline" even fits. 40k and fantasy fail to turn a calendar year forward because any change to their status quo crumbles them like a house of cards.
>>725016294Weird. I'd buy this as a Vampire survivors DLC but as a standalone game I have zero interest in it.
>>725042601The 40K timeline moved over 100 years ahead in the last 10 years of real time
>>725042763Yeh and it only caused the whole primaries shitshow
>>725042763Not him, but it did so extremely fucking messily and had to backtrack and re-write several aspects of that since GW realized that moving the timeline forward that far in one go would mean several prominent named characters should be dead. Not to mention numerous OTHER issues.
>>725042869Wasn't Yarric straight up retcon-resurected when they already wrote him as dead and then he showed up again after fan outcry about killing him off screen?
>>725020414The pile of nothing they did with the Lion's return is why I won't ever buy anything from GW again.
>>725038184After they cancel Horus Heresy
>>725042985>dude what if a primarch came back and then he got lost in a forest? And that becomes his whole gimmick?What were they thinking?
>>725042978They announced he died but were extremely vague about it, which is typically code for "We removed his model for now but he might be back in the future wink wink".Nobody really buys it and the assumption is that he'll be back next edition with an Armageddon Steel Legion release.
>>725017019I've never touched any of those and still got plenty to play
>>725042869>>725042601GW can move AoS timeline forward because it doesn’t have any characters people love that aren’t just ripped from Fantasy>Glub shitto killed Scrimblo in battle of Skull pile where 10 million blood letters and 12 million Sigmarines died, moving timeline forward!!!
>>725039840AI animation is so gross looking.
>>725043450Nice you already went from>GW doesn't do it to>GW does it buy it doesn't metterA few more whiny faggot posts like this and you'll catch up with reality
>>725041669
>>725043693Reality that AoS is creatively bankrupt setting with not a single memorable character?
>>725043729>advice animalsHoly Reddit
>>725016294ok that's pretty funny
>>725043772Keep crying a few more salty tears and you might get over your brain damage
>>725018960From what I know its the VS dev doing it
>>725043880Kek, you know that if I was wrong you’d actually name a few as counter argument but deep inside you know there’s no more uninspired, by the numbers, committee approved setting than AoS made by people who do not give a single shit about it
>>725025098cause fantasy is for gaylords
>>725016294>You only fight TyrannidsDropped
>>725021045they really should have said "here are truescale space marines everyone wanted, enjoy" and not do any of this retarded primaris shit
>>725041669its like fantasy except it makes grogtards incredibly mad even 10 years after its release
>>725043450It's clear you don't want an actual argument over this and are just going to spout drivel instead, but the Necroquake provided more progress for AoS in a single event than any 'event' did for Fantasy barring the End Times.Fantasy specifically went to End Times becaude the setting was so stagnant and static that nothing could ever happen in it.>Oh no, Malekith is invading Ulthuan! Again! Surely this time he poses a true threat!
>>725044090I could easily name >Katakros>Olynder>Skragrott>Glutos>Khul>Vandus>Brodd>Kurdoss>Drekki>GordrakkBut now i already wasted like 30 seconds writing that just to prove an axiomat of you being a faggot
>>725044090>there’s no more uninspired, by the numbers, committee approved setting than AoS made by people who do not give a single shit about itCounterpoint
>>725044441As I’ve said, not a single memorable character >b-but they have names, that makes them memorable!!!More people know about one eyed witch hunter with infinite numbers of pistols slaying rats than all of those “memorable” characters combined
>>725044884>one eyed witch hunter with infinite numbers of pistolsLiterally who
>>725017141wholly based
>>725044884And nobody would give a fuck about any Fantasy characters without Total War and Vermintide, which only existed because GW stopped caring about Fantasy following End Times. Even THEN the Ubersreik 5 are more popular than 99% of Fantasy characters simply by way of exposure, and the remaining 1% are only known for TW memes rather than their actual characters within Fantasy.
>>725044739Hey, D&D was made by people that cared half a century ago. It was just corrupted and twisted by latter group.
I've heard they made up some soldier and swordsman oc for this in addition to strealing 2nd rate characters, any pictures of them?
>>725045206Millions of people played TW and most of them started with Karl Franz so he’s likely more well known than Ubersreik 5. > without Total War and Vermintide, which only existed because GW stopped caring about Fantasy following End TimesAnd yet despite GW tried to push AoS in all their media none still knows or cares about single AoS character, curious why?
>>725023270>Ask me anythingHow do I unlock Dracula
>>725016294Every single AoS game has flopped. Just seeing this has AoS stuff in will deter some people from buying
>>725016294quick rundown?
>>725046293Vampire Survivor but Warhammer 40k but also we grafted Age of Sigmar because we need female marines in
>>725046418>Vampire Survivor but Warhammer 40k but also we grafted Age of Sigmar because we need female marines inI can't even tell if most Vampire Survivors characters are male or female because of the sprites
>>725045879Did you even view any media made by GW themselves or do you sit with your eyes closed and claim nothin exists if you can't see it?
>>725016294>40 000 AND Age of SigmarI've lost interest. Either do 40 000 or Fantasy. Not whatever this is.
>>725045879>curious why?No, because I know why.GW does not view video games as media for profit, it views them as licensed advertisements. They did not approach CA or Fatshark about TWW or Vermintide, they were approached for both titles instead and gave permission since to GW it didn't matter how those games did. Fantasy had already collapsed and been tossed out as far as GW was concerned.Therefore, Vermintide and TWW were made and progressed without GW's intervention or oversight. As such, they were made to be games, not to be advertisements, and were enjoyable and memorable for it.GW does not view AoS the same way it viewed Fantasy during End Times. GW wants to sell AoS, therefore the games for it are made under GW's heavy scrutiny and oversight, which when mixed with their executives and 'setting experts' being retards, makes a very dangerous combination.To put more perspective on this, a comparison.TWW was made by CA and published by Sega. CA has extensive experience making Total War. Sega is a very prominent publisher able to fund the venture. They have the freedom and flexibility to work on TWW as they deem fit in terms of design and general gameplay. TWW is made with PC in mind because of course it would be, it's a strategy game, why wouldn't it be? CA is free to add the factions and units, at least until TWW3 where GW stepped in and began to exert control due to the impending release of The Old World.Realms of Ruin was made by Frontier Developments. Frontier developments is an indie company who do not make RTS games, at best they make Park Sim games. They are being contracted to make RoR and thus have to work under GW oversight. RoR is developed to be a competitive console RTS because someone at GW thought that sounded cool. Frontier is explicitly told which factions and units to include, as per tabletop boxes being offered. Gav Thorpe writes the story.RoR never stood a chance in the first place, regardless of it being an AoS game.
>>725046970>Gav Thorpe writes the story.The game really was cursed from the start
>AoSfags show up>Thread diesTypical
>>725047393That's bad but at least it's not John Fr*nchThat guy nearly buckbroke me out of finishing the Horus Heresy series
I don't get the longevity of this genre, after 15 minutes you've seen the entirety of the game.
>>725038468This. Real croissants are a nuclear pain in the ass to make because of the laminating, so you generally see fake croissants which taste like nothing. Uh, vidya, warhammer
>>725049226At least it's fre->$5Wtf? People pay for this shit? Same things were all over old flash game websites
>>725045879>none still knows or cares about single AoS character, curious why?Guilty, but I liked the bald sea (a)elf girl/woman from that Sigmarine miniseries (also, lmao, Season 2 looks worse than Season 1 somehow, how is it possible to fuck up so much when using 3D so heavily?) with the arbalest nigga as one of main characters posted above. Underwater-living elves sound cool, but they need more hair. I also thought that elf bitch (Maleneth?) who's become Gotrek's new companion was fine, it was fun to see her grow conscience and develop some sort of friendship with him.Also, I think Sigmar stealing Chaos Champions and "fixing" them into Sigmarines is funny.I don't have a problem with Crimsonland and its alikes but I think they could try to make a more ambitious game.I think the best AoS vidya game would be a loosely adapted Underworlds (basically. small groups of adventurers from all factions battle somewhere, like some Nagash-cursed city where everyone is trapped but it's fine because they might be immortal and there's great loot to be found and epic quests to complete) with more overt adventuring and facing threats other than rival groups.
>>725017019true and based, zoomers seethe
>>725049991I like the stylistic choice of having the normal deepkin be bald like the thralls. It makes practical sens underwater and lets you tell them appart from regular elfs, possibly hinting that even the non-thralls are still damaged
>>725049226It's a brainless stat grindSome people like that I guess
>>725023270What is a man?
>>725019986Needs sausage, egg and cheese.
>>725051368
>>725050749Yeah, them being "failures" and amphibious explains why they might be all bald.
>>725050749But then they still wear pants and cloaks and shit so they can't even commit to it. Underwater hair would be cool.
>>725051810But also this >>725051836. They are elves, they don't have to explain anything. Just have random members have flowing locks for no reason.
>>725045517
>>725052121>elves*aelves
>>725017141Now this is a great post, kek
>>725053106Saw aelves in fiction way before AoS and honestly for me that sounds okay unlike what they call Eldar and Dark ones now.
>aelves
>>725054153It's still funny to me how AoS is so unpopular that it doesn't even get pornL
>>725054396Not like 40K gets a huge amount either. And Fantasy only does because Vermintide and Total War are popular.
>>725019986What hype? It's just food
>>725017117>would have to buy it and the DLCSo about $10 total?Skip your daily Big Mac and the problem solves itself.
>>725054772That's only worth it if the game is better than a Big Mac
>>725019497>Eating on the toilet.Do people really do this?
>>725057369What else are you supposed to do with that paper?
>>725057369Just shit it right out again, saves me the trip later
>>725037785They are not. They are literally not!Terrans from StarCraft and their aesthetics suck.The REAL Squats are the Squat Prospectors from the current ED Necromunda.
>>725027876>>725037926No. It all started with 6th ED.
>age of shit instead of WFB
>>725016294And this couldn't be DLC for Vampire Survivors why exactly?
>>725054396So damn unpopular that in Sweden (maybe, I don't remember correctly) one anon said that when GW wanted to make an AoS tournament, barely anyone came. But when they did a WHFB/TOW one, then the tournament was FLOODED with people.
40k piggies will always take the L until their morale improve
I usually assume any post that appears to be "shilling" is just spergs being excited about something. But this thread and the replies really do feel like real real shilling
>>725058393Nobody is excited for this shit, anon. It's going to be a huge flop that's forgotten after a week. Putting AoS in instead of Fantasy is a genuinely baffling decision but I doubt even Fantasy could help this shit.
>>725058473Fantasy licence doesn't even exist anymore. Why do you think only things coming out for it in the last decade are sequels to games from early 2010s?
>>725058473>but I doubt even Fantasy could help this shit.>Meanwhile Warhammer III TW still makes big sales despite every update ruins the game further and every DLC is just a moneygrab scheme
>>725016351>>725016294>>725017202>>725018008>Warhammer is.... Le BAD!!Discord link, sisters?
>>725058817Sunk cost felacy. Autists already spent $500 on DLCs do they'll spend $10 more.Cany Crush tier shit
>>725058958Current 40K? Bad?Yes, it's a fucking atrocity.
>>725058958Ask /tg/ mods on /j/
>>725058995Not really an argument. TW Warhammer became big because the fans will readily accept slop from the get-go. Meanwhile actually good TW games like Napoleon stays forgotten because the low IQ monkeys who pretend to like intelligent games doesn't actually get the one that requires it
sylvaneth and lumis better make it in. Also hoping for there to be actually decent music or voice lines.
>>725016873I bet you anything this started that way, and then they went "wait, actually we can make more money if we do this alone".The fact that it has a matching visual style when most Survivor clones don't is really telling.
>>725058473One positive thing I might say about it is that it won't try to make my eyes bleed like the critical hit BOLTGUN and its sequel do. "Retro"? I'd think "Too far" fits better. But then something like Regicide looked okay enough, and that's just Warham-skinned chess with DoW2 looking 3D models.
>>725058958Warhammer is cool, but you had to admit it's got like no fucking quality control with the game spinoffs.
Vamp survivors is a fun game itself, but i really don't think i'll be buying a knockoff just because it uses warhammer in the title. I might have gotten it as a cheap DLC, but not as it's own cloned game
>>725059387yeah this isnt new, but im gonna be honest this is better than handing it off to some company that was previously a mobile game company or whatever the fuck the people behind chaos bane were. Sometimes it produces some gems with vermin tide.
>>725016294>could have been a DOW2 Last Stand type of game>is instead a shitty vampire survivors clone
>>725016294>this is the ip thats going to be the next total war its gonna be a shit show
>>72505969040k will kill total war and sega will have to bank on football manager harder.
Seems kind of weird for it to have pixel art and Castlevania walk cycles... just as a reference to what it's piggybacking off of.No one should own game mechanics but I don't feel like that aesthetic really has anything to do with Warhammer 40k.
>>725059607At least we kmow DoW4 will have Last Stand.
>>725019986BUTTER.
>>725025098space marines, its literally because of space marinesthey just click with so many people. even before the superhero primarchs became a thing people just like the most elite of the elite soldiers fighting against the threats of the galaxy. helps that they act both like an autonomous yet well organized military group, and also an ancient order of knights. the two coolest things a boy can likebeyond that the universe they made is still pretty unique from most fantasy and sci-fi series. growing well beyond what influenced it fantasy has its fans, but original fantasy was pretty kitchen sink for fantasy in a manner similar to D&D and not really finding hooks for people who want something unique. unlike D&D they never really found ways to attract normies
>>725016294>2026What could they possibly add to the gameplay that it needs that much time in the oven? This is something I'm amazed wasn't shat out like a month after this genre took off
>>725060431Maybe they're putting in all the different factions and having unique weapons and such for them
>>725016294DOAyou just can't go back to 2D survivor slop after megabonk
>>725058995>>725059190I fucking love how Shadows of Change proved you people wrong.
>>725060590I can verify that you can, actually! Vampire Survivor's new free DLC had just as many stages as the entirety of Megabonk, on it's own!And several more viable builds too!
>>725017280>MFW joined mid 7th EdI basically got in at the last possible time that wouldnt be cringe.
>>725060590Dude I squeezed that game dry in like 24 hours, really short for a Survivors game.
>>725060957Amd how much did the FREE DLC sell?
>>725061027In my case didn't join until 4th ED.Wished I joined like 3rd ED.Those were the best times.
>>725020534please try to not act like an autistic retard for five seconds in one day
>>725020534I can honestly say I don't understand what could have possibly made you this angry.
>>725017019>only two genres on the market right nowOh, you're retarded
>>725039076>how tf can you say this right after the release of sequel 15 and sequel 5????kys
>>725040871anon they are just about to announce an Eldar Cosair faction this Friday
>>725044739D&D as some imaginative setting like Planescape, Dark Sun, Birthright, Spelljammer.AoS is as boring as a dull D&D setting like the Elemental Planes
>>725017019>tfw everyone in your friend shitcord owns these games and still don't play anythingWish we just stuck to scp secret lab desu
>>725046970>GW does not view video games as media for profit,That might have changed in recent years. Space Marine 2 made GW a lot of Money, even ignoring all the people coming into GW Stores and buying random starter Sets
>>725025098Because the universe is more merciless, bleak, and corrupt than our own. Even the heroes are cogs in an evil machine. Everything is ugly.but maybe thats just me, thats why I like it.
>>725016294>>72501635140gay fags getting exposed yet again.
>>725060380I liked end times, shame they keep thinking that makes WHF good. More of a shame that WHF being mediocre leads people to think age of smegma is better. They swapped from Warhammer DnD to Diet Warhammer 40k with the wokebait* turned up to 11.*wokebait does not say something is woke or it is not, just that it gets the wankers whose favourite genre is culture slapfights (either as righteous knobs, or bitter trolls) all frothing at the mouth
