my 2D skill is improving.I wont use AI for my games.
>>725064197I will, and I'll make better games faster because you are a luddite fucking retard.
>>725064197based human
>>725064197Tearduct?
>>725064197That's cool, but it's also entirely possible that your image there was made with AI. We're way past the event horizon of being able to tell the difference anymore.
Oh, I get it, this is one of those, "I'm going to use AI to make an 'intentionally amateurish' image to fool saars so they can see how great my sacred cow technology is" threads.
>>725064262debased egotist
>>725064462You can max saturation and see AI pictures start to get jpeg artifacts.
>>725064197But you just posted A Eye.
>>725064528Any tip or trick you can think of currently can be circumvented, if it hasn't been already, by an AI generator that is aware of such checks and purposefully accounts for them. Over time, they don't even have to be accounted for in the process anymore - it becomes automatic.
>>725064880except AI fags have no interest in making a custom oil painting anime LORA.All anime art is very obvious to be AI because everything is ultra polished and smooth to a level that is very unlike how humans paint.
>>725064880>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DETECT I'M USING AIthe self-delusion of a scam """artist"""
>>725064197Looks like shit senpai
>>725064880>Any tip or trick you can think of currently can be circumventedExcept not, retard, because all it takes it to google "AI image detection" and you'll get a page of sites that can immediately detect this shit. AI just leaves too many clues right now.
Damn... I am truly converted now. Alexa, summon Grok. I have a blowjob to give.
>>725065029>making a custom oil painting anime LORA.Without having the interest in proving you wrong, I am certain that such conditions DO exist and have been used in the regular /v/ DALL-E threads one time or another.>it's obviousIt most certainly might be obvious to you, my fellow perpetually-online, in-the-know, 4chan user. You do not represent the average. You are above average in this regard. Most people have no idea (and only care if you bring it up - if it's not brought up they won't care).>>725065124-I- am not currently trying to fool you on the topic. Someone else, who -is- trying to, will almost certainly evade detection. It's fine to be against AI but if you're going to be retarded you're going to make your side look bad, and the AIfags will look better as a result. Do I have to post the Sonic scribble AI screencap image? Can I trust you to google it yourself, if you're not aware of it?>>725065315You too, my god. I just posted AN image that was made with AI (from Mixte). I was not seeking to sneak one by anyone, but I am certain that someone seeking TO sneak one by could do so with relative ease.
>>725065315>put in human made art>still thinks it's AIlol
>>725065797AI can only produce jpeg like pictures, because of how the algorithm works.Details like fingers or background letters, or buttons, have a special smear quality, similar to a JPEG photo.This is basically a result of how the interpolation of the Z vectors on the VAE works.Also, the difussion method as of today, can't properly decide to give diferent focal areas diferent levels of brush work, because the difussion method works in paralel in all the picture at once.>but these can be solved by skill issueNo, is a basic characteristic of how difussion VAE works.>but It will be solvedYes, but not by a difussion method as you pretend it to be.
>>7250662561. it makes pngs2. it can do video3. you can make custom vaes or not use one4. AI can make art that fools anyone or anything
>>725064509>>725065315the best part about this technology is that smug retards like you who unironically think sites like that work are too stupid to actually ever do anything about widespread AI adoption. luddites lose every time.
>is it AI or not>huh idk beats me senpaiyeah nah this shit ain't right. they should make a law that states that every single AI generated image/video/and sound file comes with a watermark that says>THIS MEDIA WAS PRODUCED WITH AIemblazoned on it. that way, we can avoid confusion and those of us who aren't poojeets or boomers can safely ignore it.
>>725064197Kill yourself cris.
>>725066256cris have you ever considered that maybe you're just terrible at everything and you're too incompetent even for AIdiffusion has been capable of way more than any of what you've listed for literally 2 years now
>>725066256I am not nearly enough of an AI nerd to know what you're talking about or to care. At present, because I am perpetually online, I can usually tell what is an is not AI at a glance if the generator (the human) doesn't actively try to throw me off. If I were not perpetually online and looking at this stuff, I would not have any of the frame of reference to notice the patterns and all of it would look human-made to me.Anyone who is honest can accept this fact about themselves and everyone else on earth. The tech has advanced way faster than any denier could have imagined and it's not done advancing. This is not an endorsement. This is merely observation.
>>725066579>we should make a law to allow us to be mad about art we can't even tell was made by AIlolspergs are something else man
Cris your Leona model made my halloween.Hadn't been scared shitless in forever but you did it.
>>725066702lol AItards have no argument as to why this would be bad other than>NNOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST FORCE AISLOPPERS TO INDICATE THEIR "WORKS" ARE AI GENERATED
>>725064524Rock dumb luddite
>>725066812AI chads don't need an argument, you're fantasizing about stupid shit.
>>725066412>>725066662Difussion models are just an auto-encoder.They don't suddenly do magic.The JPG artifacts are innevitable because that's how their algo works, It's a difussion operation that starts with random noise.A difussion model can't decide it will put more effort in the brushwork of the eyes of the anime girl versus the brushwork of the background, because the current models don't understand shit like what pixel does the eye is and what pixels are the background.A VAE only understands that these tags in the prompt can be mathematically correlated to a very specific set of coordinates in the Z vector of the VAE in the weights, and can only understand it must drive the noise pixels towards the Z vector of the prompt in the weights.It doesn't magically understand It needs to like change the brush work details between background and focal point.You can see how AI picture are basically flat in the brushwork, because the model process the entire picture at once and can't magically decide if a pixel belongs to the background and foreground, because all pixels are procesed in paralel at the same time.That's why blending between two concepts can only generate JPG artifacts, because It's very hard that a very specific prompt will contain the exact value in the Z vector of the weights.The model will atempt to interpolate always, that's the nature of it's algo.
>>725066980tldr but AI is good at making art
>>725066979>I don't need an argu--shut up. you're retarded.
>>725067056yes, but only because it just copy paste a mathematical correlation between what exist on the weights that are correlated to millions of labeled examples in the training.It doesn't magically create new information, only copy paste stuff from billions of pictures.
>>725064197Eye see.
>>725064262I forgot to mention, they'll also be cheaper.
>>725067127Seethe harder spergy.
>>725067159Thanks for posting this because you outed yourself as an illiterate retard, so now I don't regret not reading your other post. There was nothing sane in your brain to share.
>>725064197This is going to upset the jeets and bots.
>>725067419???I literally studied how to code them, retard.
>>725067159>It doesn't magically create new information, only copy paste stuff from billions of pictures.This same sentiment could be applied to human-derived art, if the same standards are applied to both. Bob Ross' happy little trees don't create new information, and people who paint happy little trees at the behest of Bob Ross also don't create new information. They just copy stuff from billions of atoms (arranged to form happy little trees).
>>725067474>I have no capacity to critically think but I studied so I'm smart and you should listen to meYou're mentally challenged.
>>725067475Humans can easily acquire new information from a few examples and interpolate that.A difussion model can't learn newer concepts unless you fine tune it.The novel information you think it produces is because It has billions of labeled pictures in it's dataset.The model what it does is to simply relate your prompt to something that exist on it's dataset.Basically copy paste an interpolation of existing pictures.>>725067641Retard pretends an auto encoder in a raster picture is le magical shit.
>>725067694This is embarrassing. You can't even see that you're immediately contradicting yourself because you're so braindead.
>>725064197ok
>>725067782you should take a ML course.
>>725067694>A difussion model can't learn newer concepts unless you fine tune it.So it CAN easily acquire new information from a few examples and interpolate that.
Why is everyone freaking out about AI art replacing them anyway, there will always be a market for genuine human made art. AI art will only replace artist who produce derivate works, and artists whose clientele have zero standards(fetish faggots) and are just happy to be catered.
>>725067886What humans tend to think is novel information is usually interpolated values that not single human has discovered yet but that they exist in the posibilty space of the dataset.If I take an anime picture and a cartoon picture, I can code an interpolation between the two, because the two pictures are just a 2D array of RGB values.All digital information are just binary numbers, so they can be manipulated by code.That doesn't mean that the so called novel values are newer information created from scratch.0.5 still is derived from the interpolation of 0 and 1.There's not new number generated.But you could argue that's how humans also work, which It would be more a philosophical discussion than a CS one.
>>725067694I don't think you're getting what I am saying. Imagine a person born in a cave, who lives their entire life in that cave. They never see outside of it. This person is a painter, using cave juices to paint cave things on the cave walls. Stalactites and stalagmites and the little creatures that wander around within the cave.One day, a spelunker stumbles upon the cave, and introduces the painter to photographs, and a photograph of a tree. The painter has never seen a tree, so he acquires new information and can now paint trees.If the painter paints a tree, he is not "creating something new" by the definition that you're applying to AI generated works. He lacked information and now has that information, but trees existed before him and without him. Even if he draws a tree that does not exist in reality, like a "stalactree," it is not "new" by the definition you're applying to AI because "it's just a combination of elements that he was introduced to."I'm just pointing out that your definitions are not being applied universally. If AI can take two things and combine them, then it can produce things that have never been produced before. If this does not count as creating something new, then no art has ever created anything new.
>>725067971- tons of artists lost their jobs to it or people who use AI- AI artists get more online attention than most artists, making them seethe-there is a lot of parasocial autism in the digital art world so when an artist hates AI for whatever reason there are tons of non-artists who will also be mad about it, anti-AI is basically a cult
>>725068168That's related to the question if math is discovered or invented.And I'm not a mathematician or philosopher to answer that.
>>725068330It is discovered.
>>725064509As a non-jeet who thinks generative AI is a fun toy to play with, and smart enough to not buy into tech-bro hype, I find all the generic anime waifu shit, bad pixar-esque characters, and uncanny valley celeb shit to be really boring. I find the more interesting stuff is people trying to deep fry styles and see if you can get something kind of interesting out of it.
>>725064197based
>>725068168I forgot to add.Not everything can be computerized and there's mathematical limitations to what a digital system can do.By example computer systems can't process the godel paradox, I think.>>725068362dunno.I'm not a philosopher of math to answer.
>>725068330As an engineer and part time philosopher I can tell you that some math is discovered and other math is invented.Where we draw the line is slightly fuzzy but there are clear cases of discoverable math (observable concepts like the number of fingers, and their philosophical extensions like "infinity") but others are more clearly invented (like imaginary numbers, by their very name).>>725068443"Can be" is a poisonous term because it's limited by current capabilities. Give life a year or a decade and what "can be" done will drastically change.
>>725064509>left is AI>right is real artshit is useless
i guess i just gonna watch old movies, listen to old music and play old games
We posting eyes we drew on /v/ now?
>>725068637Is there anything more painful than the case on the right, where something that is human-made gets accused of being AI-generated? How demoralizing must that be for the artist?>>725068693Based and back in my day pilled.
>>725068596There are hardcore limits right now to AI progress, like the fact AI companies have used all dataset avaible on the internet and youtube.We have run out of data to use and there's not 100X more data to easily farm.
>>725068702>>725064197since you're talking about AI and eyes, this is a great video from a talented artist talking aobut AI, he draws a really nice eye with crayons and shows it in the videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhzMFdQD6m0
>>725068774If AI already has "all of the combined collective information that has been observed by the human race over the past 20,000 years" then I don't think AI NEEDS any more information. It's got everything we've got, if you're correct in your statement. Any "hardcore limit" you apply to AI can be applied to humanity as a whole in turn.
>>725068774That's not a limit because data is infinite. Dumb people don't understand that the algorithms, the methods of training, are what is important. When people talk about running out of data that's just acknowledging that they need more for the current algorithm to see gains, but that is just telling you that the current algorithm is what needs work. Tagging is also more important than data and that's not solved either.
>>725064262Luddites were right though.
>>725068871AI bros don't have the training to perceive the issues AI has because they have never drawn.>>725068924There's a lot of knowledge we don't know in arts and science.By example, we don't have a clue how to solve the concienciousness problem, neither we have a clue how to travel to other stars and galaxies.Plenty of disseases we don't know how to cure.Or how to predict natural disasters.Also, we don't know what exist after death.And we still can't produce shit like nuclear fussion.We still don't know how to predict complex caothic systems like trading cryptos.>>725069019There's not a clear path to AGI and It's pretty clear LLMs have reached their current limit.AI bros still pretend the chinchilla paper didn't reached disminishing returns this year and that we can suddenly just use synthetic data to 10X the models.AI bros are still stuck to 2022 internet because now the internet is heavily polluted with AI made poor quality shit.
>>725066256That's one smart cat!
>>725068702
>>725069131no they weren't
>>725069292seethe harder it helps
>>725069443my advice is to actually study the university lectures where they explain basic ML shit and how it works.
>>725069505so I can become unhinged like you?
>>725064462>We're way past the event horizon of being able to tell the difference anymore.Lol, no we arent. Go on and post the same shitty poll that was botted like you do every thread
>>725069582dunno.But I just see AI hype as just non CS people tricked by textual parelodia and crypto grifters selling sci fi BS.It's just metaverse and crypto 2.0.It's no diferent from religious fags worshipping some wall or wood stain.
>>725064262Its been 3 years. WhaEre is it? AI is supposed to speed everythjng up by a million times right? Why havent we seen any even remotely decent AI games? Also, post what you currently got. I dont believe youve actually worked on anything.
>>725069292>There's a lot of knowledge we don't know in arts and science.Sure, but we don't know it, so we shouldn't expect our robotic mind-baby to know it either. Your claim was that AI has a hard limit, but it seems like it has the same limits as humanity.It can know what it knows.There are things it will know it doesn't know.There are things it won't know it doesn't know.Does AI have to know something we don't for you to accept it? I don't understand what you're trying to claim that it should be capable of doing.
>>725064584Carlos!
>>725069794Humans keep making novel content because unlike AI, humans can perceive novel information from studying nature or divine inspiration.Some infromation we now have comes from a scientist, philosopher or artists having a dream or a random idea they got from nowhere.Or just serendipide coincidence.We discovered by example dagerrotypes because a chemistry scientist forgot about some chemicals in his closet.Or we discovered antiobiotics because some scientist also forgot to clean a petri dish.A lot of novel information humans produce comes from just intuition from divine inspiration.
>>725069704Because you aren't thinking, you can't recognize it for what it is because there's something wrong with you. You are unhinged and it's funny you're talking about religion since your anti-AI crusade is dogmatic and nothing more.
>>725069363Yeah bro I love this era of cheap disposable shitty ass fabrics. Sure would fucking suck to have quality heirloom items maintained generationally and made by expert craftsmen.
>>725070031You're free to buy those you whiny faggot.
>>725069995I'm not anti AI.I just see AI grifters selling basic CS research as the coming of the anti christ to get billions from people without knowledge of math and CS.
>>725069807That's clearly Ultros. You may have an aspicmatism.
>>725070086>I'm not anti AI.hahaha
>>725070086Anon, if you arent praising everything about AI, they see you as the enemy. Stop trying to reason with grifting faggots
So why do AIfags get so asspained when someone says they dont like AI? Like, why do you care? If you truly think theyre all just luddite retards, then just make your slop and ignore them? Why are you getting so tilted over this and throw a hissy fit everytime?Inb4 accusations of me being an artfag or whatever
>>725070146I don't AI is bad.But right now the current algos have a lot of limitations.LLM still generate hallucinations, and diffusion models can't be used for making videogame sprites because the model lack the understanding of the pictures I made before, so It can't keep a constant design.>>725070147I know.I just wanna teach these anons why AI wont make skynet next year.
>>725064262FPBP
>>725070276they're making fun of you for being spastic, they're not mad.
Seethers have been crying on /v/ and calling everything pajeet for like a year now and it has done literally nothing to slow down the adoption or progress of AI.
>>725070301Post your game so far bro, i want to see your neat AI game youre making
>>725064197Very based>>725064262I will ignore your obviously AI looking game because you refuse to do your own loras and editing your gens.
>>725070282You misrepresent it while calling people "AI bros", you're not fooling anyone you retarded luddite.
>>725070276Same reason we make fun of vegans and furries, you're obnoxious retards who can't stop talking about how much you hate AI every chance you get
>>725070339>no actually the seething and screaming about being luddite retards is us just laughing!Lol cmon now
>>725070445AIfags literally shove their slop in every thread then cry when people tell them to fuck off.
>>725064880The two desks in the back tell me its AI besides the fact that it's the same generic AI loras everyone is using.
>>725070510>Getting mad people are posting images on an imageboard
>>725070429by AI bros I am talking about the crypto AI bros.
>>725070560>getting mad that people call your images shit and lashing out calling them artfags and whatever else
>>725070449yes, just 2 camps>reeee AI>"AI bad take muh jerbs">*lies about AI*then>lmao luddite mad
>>725070510Good job proving him right.>someone makes cool thing that you hate>you freak out and annoy everyone like a vegan
Where are the AI games? Its been 3 years. Do any of you faggots have a single playable demo? Anything at all?
>>725070106But then who is that?
>>725070723Says the fag shitting their pants because someone dared to say your lazy slop is slop. If you cant handle bantz, then go to leddit or something
>>725064197Green eyes won
I think is funny how AI bros cope and seethe and they want the respect real artists have, but they can only create coomer pornography.They don't understand fine art is like high literature and philosophy, so is like a joke they pretend to be taken seriously by the art comunity when they make hatsune miku naked taking 5 negro dicks, as the same respect people have for a mona lisa or monet or vang gogh.It's like AI bros don't even understand what's the purpose of fine art.They think that AI porn should have the same level of respect as a rembrand.
>>725070820https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3VepzgSwh4
>>725070813>no refutationConcession accepted, vegan. We are going to keep killing animals to eat their meat, you can cry about it but expect us to make fun of you for it :)
>>725070723>makes cool thingThey didnt make it though, and rarely is it cool at all. Its best usecases are shitposts 99.9% of the time
>>725070882"Rembrand", huh
>>725070778wtf is this ai
>>725070778A wetback.
>>725070923>he posted it againReminder that the posts in that image were very clearly samefagged since nobody ever thought that a toddler could make a Sanic. Get new material
>>725070882>I think is funny how AI bros cope and seethe and they want the respect real artists haveThis is actually cope. 98% of artists get no respect, and AI users don't desire said respect, they just want to make cool art without sinking thousands of hours or dollars into it, you're literally projecting. Ironically you can not fathom creating art for any other reason than recognition while AI users can appreciate a nice picture simply for being a nice picture
>>725070970>you didn't make that toast, the toaster didlmao>>725071039holy shit they're still coping over that
>>725070894for me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waKvorfmuB8
>>725071056>Ironically you can not fathom creating art for any other reason than recognition while AI users can appreciate a nice picture simply for being a nice picture100% spot fucking onai seethers literally just see art as a means of profit or social credit which is why they need to jerk off the artist and focus less on the art itself
>>725071001AI can make art, but It depends on the guy prompting it understanding how to deliver a message about the nature of the human condition.Your picture could be made by AI and still would be an interesting piece about Jesus christ.>>725071056Not all art is fine art.BLACKED is still cinema, but nobody will take BLACKED seriously on the oscars.
HUMAN ART IS BET-
>>725071080Literally no breathing human thinks a toddler made that. A toddler can barely scribble. They literally dont have the hand functionality to perform precise work like that. You arent fooling anyone.
>>725071186>>725071231>>725071237human art is related to being mentally ill and being a social outcast.dunno what's so rare about art being about being the product of mentally ill people.
>>725071295>completely changes his argumentthis retard is huffing extreme copium
>>725071231bitch looks like an extra for a Mad Max movie
How come everyone is ignoring my posts asking to see their work in progress with their AI game?
>>725071295>Literally no breathing human thinks a toddler made that.No one ever claimed a toddler made it lol
>>725071362>changes the argument???I said here >>725071039 that nobody thought a toddler drew this and that it was obviously samefagged. Are you ok?
>>725071362those waifus are not longer impressive after you have fapped to hundreds of the same overpolished style AI always have.I love how I am not longer impressed by AI art, except for a quick fap.
>>725071393They did.
>>725071376Gee I wonder why lmao
>>725068438why do humans have such tiny irises compared to every other species?
>>725071524If they did you would have pointed it out in that reply
>>725071376Never ask an AI slopper to show their work on their game
>>725070510Reality is slop.
>>725070648They've been praying for the downfall of artfags and whomever else they deem the enemy through AI since 2022. But years later they're still the sad person they are while the world has largely moved on. Same kind of reaction you get from crypto true believers who believed all the while getting robbed and left in the dust.
>>725071694In the thread itself, there were people calling out the blatant samefagging since people were saying it was a toddler drawing. They conviently leave that out of the ebin screencap.
>>725071686They don't, they're roughly all relatively the same, human's SEEM smaller because we have a lot more white in our eyes, and we have that because it allows for us to understand where each other are looking and allows for more trust
>>725071686hybrids
>>725071471>I became derangedok
>>725071376>>725071659>>725071734Stop samefagging, no one is going to leak info on a in-development project to appease some random nigger on the internet, you are a nobody.
>>725070882they are like sheboon with ''wypipo evil, now pay me'' slogan
>>725071875Kek, people post WIP all the fucking time. And posting what youre working on wouldnt be a "leak" if we dont know what the code is or the assets or anything else. The fuck could I do with a 10 second clip of your game you retard?Stop making excuses and post your work.
>>725072056You are a nobody.
>>725071845
>>725071875>leak info on a in-development projectLMAOOOO nigga there's gamedev threads every week where people post their progress, just show us your game
>>725071875keep making excuses
>>725071845>ai slop
>>725064262You won't achieve human soul>>725066939The lizard fears the strong rock
>>725071875>AIslopper is so ignorant of how gamedev works that he thinks posting a simple work in progress would somehow ruin the entire concept of the game
>>725072121Dick sow I pee some came out before the machine minds, retard.
>>725064197>I wont use AI for my games.Good. I think we're fast getting to a point where "100% AI-free" will be a selling point in Steam trailers. We might even be there already.
Hey AI seethers, genuine question, does whining and seething in these threads actually make you feel better? Or do you realize once its over that AI is still here to stay and you can't do anything about it
>>725071376the funniest thing is that if ai reach ability to actually make a game with some retard prompting it then nobody will be buying it because it will be worthless because anyone will be able to make their own perfect game
>>725072080On the contrary, I am a potential consumer. One that is skeptical of you actually making anything. Which you could easily refute by showing just a little bit of what your making. Why wouldnt you?
>>725072263>Erm hey chuddies, I'm trans!Happy for you sister.
>>725065029>except AI fags have no interest in making a custom oil painting anime LORA.Do elaborate, you mean like a style LORA?
>>725072335>why wouldn't youwhy would I?
>>725072387I mean shit like this.
Half the people who hate AI do so because their only exposure to it is the most surface level slop. It would be like saying "animation is a shit medium" because you've only watched 2020s cal-art shit from cartoon network
>>725072121
>>725072279How is that funny? That's something to look forward to. You retards literally can't think critically.
>>725072719Humans dont put value on things that dont take actual hard work to be made.
>>725072493AI artists make stuff like that
>>725072450For the same reason there is daily game dev threads doing just that?
>>725072719it is funny because ai generated content will be worthless, it is worthless even nowpeople will be paying to get that shit filtered offyou should invest in luddites if you want some $$$ because ai niggers will not pay for anything
>>725072493
>>725072516Thats cool, but where is your game bro?
>>725072809Why so so many AI artists make thousands every month on patreon then? Why are people buying AI art on etsy? Why are they subscribing to youtube channels that exist solely because of AI?>>725072850>having your own perfect game is worthlessHow did you get this fucking stupid?
>>725072821AI can make that, but AI artist don't care about making fine art.>>725072852I has the same issue of JPG artifacts and AI not understanding brush work.
>>725072880Errrrrm chudigga-igga what what what what what whatChudigga-igga in my butt butt butt butt
>>725072912Humans pay 120 billion for pornography every year.Doesn't mean porn has artistic value.
>>725072852Thanks for posting this, looks good.
>>725072923>um AI can't do hands>*fixed*>um, AI can't to feet>*fixed*>um, AI can't do hair>*fixed*>um, AI can't do oil painting>*fixed*>um, AI can't do brush workyou anti-AI fags have to stop embarrassing yourselves with this treadmill kek
>>725073120When will AI do interesting prompts?Because all the shit I see from AI fags is boring.
>>725072829Isn't it ironic you're Anti-AI/Pro-Human yet completely fail to understand humans? Maybe you're autistic but I'll spell it out for you:People have different standards, desires, motivations and such, some people like to share, some people like to keep to themselves, some people like to blog, and some don't. Just because one human does one thing doesn't mean its an appealing behavior for all humans. Hope this helps champ.
>>725072880??? when did I say I made a gamewhere's YOUR game?
>>725073179>when will AI do things that I find interesting?also known as having no argument
>>725073180>Maybe you're autisticevery anti-AI person is
>>725073241cartoon child pornography gets boring after a while anon.
Very good sirs. H1B applications going well?
>>725064262>idea guy SWEARS this time it will be different and he TOTALLY wont quit halfway through2 more weeks
>>725073284The idiots like you that went "AI can't do X" are losing ground with each passing day so your only retreat its "yeah well I don't like it" in the end.
I'll still use AI. It's just fun and I enjoy it
>>725064262name one good ai game
>>725073460see>>725070882I am not saying AI cant produce oil painting.I am saying AI bros can't make fine art because they think hatsune miku taking 5 big black cocks is something of equal value as a mona lisa or a monet.
AI fags get more out of "pwning the artists" than they do actually making games.Kinda like how NTR is more about the other guy than about the girl.No wonder AIfags only make NTR porn games, they are cucks.
Can AIbros PLEASE focus more on 3D over 2D for a while? 2 years later and AI generated models still suck ass.
>>725071875>"heh, artfags are shit and they horded their skills for years, now anyone can make their own stuff! Art has been democratized!">ok cool, want to show your work on the game that you are supposedly making?>"n-no, I dont want to leak my precious workflow..."At best, you have turned into the very thing you supposedly hated hated about artfags. But we all know you're just making excuses because your a lazy faggot LARPing about making anything, like with 99.9% of AIfags. You wont post anything because you fucking cant. And next year youll make another excuse. And ten years from now you STILL wont make shit.Also dont bother with your next cope about how youre "totally someone else". I dont believe you.
>>725071686Super useful for nonverbal communication
>>725073392Check out what happened when someone asked him for a WIP lmao >>725071875
>>725073557As stupid as saying real life artists don't make real art because they think a banana on the wall is something of equal value as a mona lisa or a monet.
>>725072912seethe more loser
>>725073332>normiesWhy are AIfaggots such fucking faggots?
>>725073781lmao
>>725073557As someone who likes to fuck around with AI, I find the "community" to be really exhausting because it just makes you realize that with the ability to create almost anything by describing it simply and concisely 99.999% of people are just useless hylics that just want 400 awful looking uncanny valley taylor swift images.
>>725073746I don't consider conceptual art the same as fine art paintings.>>725073850very few people understand fine art, just like very few people understand bach or very few people understand shakespeare.
>>725073797if he prompted normalfags it would have blocked him
>>725070510i don't understand this. like come on mate, i already have to deal with ai generated schlock on every other fucking platform, what if i just don't want to see it?
>>725073850>non creative people are awful at making creative things>actual creatives can instantly see the limitation of the tech and quickly discard it or use as an outline at bestShocking really
>>725073850>people are exhausting because they don't make what I like
>>725064197>SanpakuGrim...
>>725073994>can make anything>make the most boring slop imaginablenormalfag
>>725073936Most people aren't spiritual vegans like you. They like it or don't care.
>>725074065youre the minority though
>>725073901>I don't consider conceptual art the same as fine art paintings.Funny, you brainlessly generalize AI bros but when the same goes your way you can't come up with anything better than "I'm not like that...". What makes you different? If I'm to generalize as well, you're as much as the same ass all the other conceptual artists that do a mockery of art for money laundering.
>>725074132conceptual art is a diferent genre as classical realism.This is like saying that classical music is bad because rap artists make garbage.
>>725074127Keep telling yourself that.
>>725070031Those still exist and they're still just as expensive and unaffordable to the average person as they always were
>>725074184So is saying what AI bros do is bad because porn artists make garbage. Do you not see how you're arguing against your very own argument?
>>725073619I have to thank AI niggers for being the biggest deterrent to widespread adoption.
>>725064262Based slop dev.
>>725074185I will because judging from the the statistics, its absolutely a minority of people spamming shit.
>>725074065>they like itno, no they really don't. none of people i know enjoys ai content they all actively avoid it on sites like youtube. shit rule34 even added a dedicated button for turning off ai posts and sites like gelbooru outright ban ai from being uploaded.>spiritual veganwhat are you even talking about?
>>725074341Bro, post a WIP of your game instead of making excuses
>>725073976>quickly discard it or use as an outline at bestI treat it more like a fun toy, or text adventure video game. Which might actually be a fun game concept, like scribblenauts, but you have to prompt the thing into existence instead of being able to draw it.
>>725074307My advice is first to go to the Art renewal center website and understand what is classical realism first.https://www.artrenewal.org/You're using post modern genres of fine art like conceptual, to make an argument about classical realism.And yes, conceptual art is a scam.
>>725074402What? I called him based.
>>725074350Post stats.>>725074358Yes they do and you're a vegan because you're whining incessantly about regular people doing normal things like not paying attention to or enjoying art. Only mentally ill people cry about art like you, just like vegans cry about eating food.
>>725074341>keeps samefagging his post because hes embarrassed about getting called out >>725071875
>>725074431you still chose to dodge how you're arguing against your own argument lmao
>>725074489my argument has always been about classical fine art.Most AI bros pretend they're making classical art and missing the entire point.
>>725074439Well "he" isnt very based at all since he refuses to post a single thing about his game. I dont think "he" has made anything. I think you- oh sorry, "he" is a LARPing faggot pretending to do gamedev but in reality has done fuck all because he's a lazy cunt.
>>725074470You gonna post that WIP anon?
>>725074530You saying what AI bros do is bad because porn artists make garbage its the same as saying that classical music is bad because rap artists make garbage.
>>725074470Where's your game bro?
>>725074185Oh, you misunderstand. I'm saying you're brown.
>>725074594>>725074609>maybe if I samefag and act like a bot I'll win the argumentwhat the actual fuck
>>725074596It's bad in the sense, it lacks cultural value compared to classical art.Is BLACKED bad?dunno.Is BLACKED bad compared to bach and shakespeare and gonne with the wind?Yes.
>>725074676>samefagBro just post your WIP
>>725074676seething
>>725071875so much for "democratizing art"
>>725074470>Yes they dosource?
>>725074732You saying what AI bros do is bad because porn artists make garbage that it's bad in the sense, its the same as saying that classical music is bad because rap artists make garbage that it's bad in the sense.This is your own analogy, stop trying to weasel out of it.
Guys can you stop arguing for a second and give me some advice? Should I keep on drinking tonight?
>>725074936Yes.Low culture is similar to fast food.Is fast food bad?Yes.
>>725074945You should sit down and actually make a game, since the AIfag clearly isnt
>>725074945Alcohol is humanity's best friend. You wouldn't just dip on a friend like that, would you?
>>725074983So you agree that classical music is bad because your own analogy forces you to and you can't back down now.
>>725064448no more tears
>>725072263Post your game
Some people like using AI, some people don't. What's the issue? Just do what you personally enjoy and don't worry about what others do. Is that really so hard
>3 years now>still no AI games despite claims that it would exponentially speed up game developmentUhhhh
>>725075067have you ever looked at actual classical art and try to experience it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FLbiDrn8IEBecause you seem some faggot trying to argue that porn has the same value as classical art.
>>725075014Thanks. I don't think I would survive sober but I didn't want to take responsibility.
>>725075147That's not true, there's a thousand 1girl masterpiece best quality tile sliding puzzle games plaguing steam and the eshop.
>>725075261I guess I should have said "worthwhile games"
>>725075178No anon, it is your own analogy that says classical is bad because rap artists make garbage.
>>725075301never said classical music was bad.I said that nigger music is bad when compared to classical european music.
>>725064262>SAAARR BASTARD FUCK YOUU IDIOT LUDDITE!!! IWILL BE MAKE THE GAME FASTER WITHING THE POWER OF THE AI AND WILL ESCAPING OF THE STREET OF MUMBAI FASTER AND CHEAPRER BLOODY BENCHODE!!!!!!
>>725075369>never said classical music was bad.No, you saying what AI bros do is bad because porn artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense], which its the same as saying that classical music is bad because rap artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense].
>>725073120>>um AI can't do handsYes despite the literal trillions going into AI, AI still makes hand mistakes like a beginner artfag.
>>725075486you're claiming I claimed classical music to be bad.No.I claimed classical music to be good and nigger music to be bad.AI fags make the visual version of nigger music.
>>725074231it was something to invest in like any modern appliance
>>725075565No, I'm quite using your very own analogy. For you to say that what AI bros do is bad because porn artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense], its the same as saying that classical music is bad because rap artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense].So make up your mind, is your analogy right or wrong?
>>725069972>Humans keep making novel content because unlike AI, humans can perceive novel information from studying nature or divine inspiration.This is pure subjectivity, though. "Novelty" is purely subjective, as is "divine coincidence." Plenty of people find plenty of AI generated art to be novel.
>>725073906>Uh oh we detected an issue with your prompt. Please wait at you location while a support team arrives.not only are AIfags artless soulless people, but they're also massive cucks to corporations
>>725075659how did you reach the claim I claimed classical music is bad?you seem to made a logical assumption there.
>>725075884Because your analogy says so. You said what AI bros do is bad because porn artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense], therefore classical music is bad because rap artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense].
>>725068693right answer, the good new ones will present themselves
>>725076004You can't make a comparison between BAD and BAD.It's not a logical sentence.
>>725076057I'm not doing it, its your analogy doing it. Because if what AI bros do is bad because porn artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense], then classical music is bad because rap artists [make garbage that it's bad in the sense] as well.
>>725076125No.My comparison doesn't claim that BAD is equal to BAD.That's your claim.
>>725076167uh, it does. It claims that what AI bros do is bad because porn artists make something BAD, therefore, classical music is bad because rap artists make something BAD as well.
>>725064262>>725067192no you won't, sweetie
>>725073906>>725075874good point, you are only allowed to make what you want within their limits. you could be making a something spooky an universal says they don't want their monster or their likenesses usedboomgone
>>725076301No.Your argument is not even a proper logical argument.if 1 == 1 then 1 > 1 is not a proper argument and wont even compile as code.
>>725076075>everyone owns a tractor in their backyard nowBrown IQ meme
>>725076413you're criticizing your very own analogy then, for it was you who said AI bros do = bad, why?because porn artists make something BAD. Therefore, classical music = bad, why? because rap artists make something BAD as well.
>>725076504embarrassing projection
>>725072493dalle 3's default was oil paint shit
>>725064262Pfft! we all know you'll just go early access and then not finish it then scam people & run away with the money you Slavic Mutt.
>>725076942>esl misuses wordsI didn't say you were brown but you're literally admitting it right now
i just like drawing, coming home from a 9 hour day at work and then busting out like 3-4 hours on a piece of fanart is more fun than playing games to me nowadays
>>725073504>he doesn't know about Amazon's AI powered Snoop double ggrim
>>725064509>Tests the AI detection programwith this image>Recognizes it as human-madeYep. Checks out.
>>725064509>>725077948No. It's either a Cris or Fygoon shitpost thread.
Cris won
how come Cris's threads get 100s of replies or even pinned yet mine only get pruned or deleted
>>725078338>>725078480It's not Cris. The ""art"" has that ugly Fygoon smell.
>>725072852Trash. Look at the hand holding the violin neck.
>>725078547Who's fygoon
>>725071875THIS MAN IS A POST-ELECTION SQUATTER.HE DOES NOT REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF NOTCH.DROP HIM LAVA NOW.
>>725078547No it isn't, you mentally retarded schizo.
>>725078763Here >>725078814 look who suddenly showed up random out of nowhere LOL.
>>725078338>>725078480? Cris doesn't draw like that. His art looks like it came out of those early 2000s "How To Draw Manga" books.
Another day of hard work where I keep pushing my skills to improve more and more.:D
>>725076075awful comparison art needs a little creativity work no matter how soulless the industry has become.
>all these likesAI wonhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/JzztQlgU1Lo
>>725079292>awful comparison art needs a little creativity work no matter how soulless the industry has become.
>>725079404fuck i actually laughed at that last parrot, my brain is fucking cooked as the zoomers would say
>>725068135>But you could argue that's how humans also work, which It would be more a philosophical discussion than a CS one.NTA or any of them but that's exactly what those anons are saying. "the immature poet imitates and the mature poet plagiarizes" or the shitty Steve jobs misquote "Good artists copy; great artists steal."Everything builds on something else. How it got there is pointless. A complex algo deriving weight based on a vectors versus digital versus latex versus oil versus charcoal they've all been accepted to have the same similar artistic merit in society. The only distinction with AI is its lack of humanity, not how it got there.
>>725068871damn that guy has the creds but he is fucking stupid, honestly just sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder about funko pops and digital tools so he's trying to justify ai out of spitedumb and gay
>>725079839AI has more humanity since it's both controlled by a human and trained on humanities works.
>>725080124You're the stupid one. You just can't understand what he's saying because your IQ is too low and you have to be told what to think by someone you trust. The proof of this is in you having an ad hominem attack instead of a real argument against him.
>>725080345his whole justification was ad homs in the first place which goes back to my actual point that isn't just an ad hom, that he is just being spiteful
>>725079772future generations will only be watching AI generated stuffhttps://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_69089a3569d88191b4cc6ae09210f8f6
>>725064197Okay, I won’t use Photoshop for my games.
>>725080586Further proof of your low IQ, you missed his arguments entirely and you don't seem to know what an ad hom attack is. The people he's talking to do exist while the person you're after doesn't.
>>725080854>low iq low iq low iqlmao alright calm down reddit, I don't feel like dealing with a sperg today, go continue eating that boomers ass elsewhere
>>725081020>getting mad that your IQ is lowJust accept it and grow up. Concession accepted.
>>725080271But the "control" is not from dedication or gifts. At least not in the traditional sense. The tool "painted every stroke". A typographer wouldn't call WordArt "art" if you chose the default Yellow and orange stensil font to say "cunt". The artist is the tool maker and the product is what you told it do. The humanity of the creation is lost between an abstractio of the tool, and the influences it took to create that product. The tool is the artist but tools can't be artists. Jk fuck you jeet nice slop buy more nvidia shit enjoy the bubble fag I am going to enjoy watching you losers die in the streets once this thing pops
>>725081354>The humanity of the creation is lost between an abstractio of the tool,It's still there, you just don't like the abstraction. Cameras, spray paint, pull strings, and sound waves are some implements that aren't too different.>Jk fuck you jeet nice slop buy more nvidia shit enjoy the bubble fag I am going to enjoy watching you losers die in the streets once this thing popsHoly shit you fell full spastic after pressing enter. Hilarious that a jobless artist living on the street doesn't even understand what a bubble is though, thanks for the laugh.
>excessive that wont help you with drawing>eye drawing truth hurts
I'm pro AI simply because anti AI are all trannies.
>>725084745i have a feeling that a tranny distorted view of the world aligns more with AI
>>725084972That's because you haven't interacted with drawfags or be in a drawfag community, they all have at least 1 kind of mental illness.
>>725064462nah AI would have way fucking better linework and proportions than that high school tier doodle.
>>725085405That has nothing to do with trannies doe, retard.
>>725085405the mental illnesses of prompters outnumber them by a massive amount, seriously just imagine what kind of person it takes to type in the shit they do "big booba asian anime girl masterpiece 5 fingers" all day and then sort through 10000 slop generations to find the perfect one they can save. It is definitely people like pic related
>>725085614They are extremely likely to troon out.>>725085790Even with those exaggerated numbers, they would end up with a better image in less time than a drawfag.
>>725085790>then sort through 10000 slop generations to find the perfect one they can saveall 10000 of them still get uploaded to places where other people have to see them among other things they'd be looking for while they're proud of "making it"
>>725073284You sound like an expert on this subject.
>>725086491ok troon kek
>>725066650you should see the questions he asks in diffusion threads its exactly what youd expect
>>725084745Good instincts, you're on the right side of history.
>want to defend AI because it makes lefty trannies really mad for some reason>don't want to defend AI because pajeets love itI'm so conflicted, bros
I miss early AI when it was weird as fuck.
>>725085790>>725084972I'm pro AI and I understand the similarities in trannies and how anti-AI trannies see AI artists(you will never be a woman/real artist) but it falls apart when you properly acknowledge the fact that AI artists are real artists, even though trannies will never be women. And another more important fact is that it's almost always trannies or their radical leftist allies saying that to AI artists. You can verify this very easily on social media, it's incredible how blatantly accurate this statement is.Pro AI people are overwhelmingly just normal people too. You have the camp that turns photographs of their families into ghibli styled AI art or get amazed by some shitty AI generated video of a dog saving a baby, and the people who enjoy that. "My son is so talented, look what he did with his computer. +5000 likes" and the camp that calls them murderers for killing artists and defend Disney's copyrights for free. Only one of these is fucked in the head.>>725086770The pajeet narrative is mostly made up cope for a lack of an argument against AI.
>>725064197that loks like shitalso you can draw things and have ai make it into a 3d model for you and do 6 hours of work in literally 30 seconds. AI lets no-skill people make basic things and lets high-skill people make basic things much faster.
>>725086974kino
>>725086801>earlyyou weren't earlyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream
why do the jeet shills in these threads already post the more embarrassing dogshit they can muster? get some fucking taste
>>725086974>ghibli with anti soul gas, generated by anti soul technologyEEEEYIKES!
>>725086974I don't remember chihiro being a ninja
>>725087054This just isn't true, you still haven't even shown your game yet >>725064262And no one is going to show it either because no one that is defending ai in here is capable of doing it. Honestly, the thread should have just ended after that post got shit on. AI fags are just endlessly shilling a dream, probably just a bunch of jeets that are paid off to shill it like >>725086770 said. No need to stick around for this shitshow anymore.
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>>725064262>slop for the slop god
>>725086629i'm not surprised. the way he flipped on it after realizing you need at least 3/4ths of your frontal lobe to operate any of the local frontends was biblical
>>725064262based>artist (faggot): i will take forever because drawing takes time and i will be paid for my experience not for just the drawing itself and my game will be forever in wip state because drawing takes time and also you should tip me 100%>ai friend (CHAD): lmao quicker than u also game is cheaper and is actually released lmao x infinity
>>725086905>uptight artist doesn't understand that everyone in that department was in on the joke that they were calling him a self-fellating asshole
>>725088668>ask artist to do something, offer money>they won't/can't do it, will be annoying and rude about it>ask AI artist to do something, offer money>he does it immediately, for free, teaches you how to do it yourself
>>725088885it's funny and sad because it's truei once wanted to become an artist but i met too many artists unwilling to help, and i suspect a lot of it is their own egos not wanting to lift others up there into their little circle or clique like having more people in the field is a threat to the one gimmick they all have that would make them money, they just resort to "go read loomis lol" or they'll only help you if they like you enough which is very close to cronyismlike i get that some people learn on their own but not everyone is built that way and need some feedback and maybe some just aren't cut out for art itself, but plenty of ai friends have been extremely helpful for the little i've dealt with themthe artists act like they are tradesmen but have no real trade skills and don't want anyone in their territory it seemslike real tradesmen WANT the help because trades like plumbing, construction, etc, it's not necessarily a one man job especially if you get lots of calls for jobs in different locations on the same daybut artistfags? lmao
>>725088668>>725088885>>725089440So where's your game? Can you post some of what youre working on?
>>725089601why are you being obnoxious?
>>725089601
>>725089440>but plenty of ai friends have been extremely helpful for the little i've dealt with themThink about it a bit deeper. AI art exists because white people wanted making art to be as braindead as possible. They pirated all of the internet and trained AI on all the pictures. It cost them many millions of dollars to do all this and they released the products for free(mostly). And then all the people who learned how to use those products also release most of the information on how to use it for free. And they themselves train models and again release it all for free.Meanwhile artists want you to pay hundreds for some doodles.
So does this schizo have a name yet?
>>725086974Cool video but what about... game?
>>725084972trannies tend to be interested in art and proud of it which is why they hate it
>>725090368Yeah same interest that leads them to trace AI once they realize it requires a titanic effort to git gud, no different from a jeet honestly
>>725072263I feel fine because not only do I have the ethical high ground but better taste. I'm just better than AI sloppers, as an artist and as a human, full stop
ONE DAYI WILL MAKE ITTHE PERFECT H-GAME
they can't stop losing
>>725091772It's not photorealistic yet
>>725064262Name me ONE customer that isn't your mom
my AI skill is improving. I will use AI for my games.
>>725064197Organically Sourced Indie Games.
>>725067192If it's anything worth playing, I'll pirate it. Fuck you, I unironically buy $70+ games and pirate all the indie slop.
>>725091938lol
>>725086974slop
>>725092709Pansexuales haciendo pan.
>>725064262Fuck AI
>>725086905>it falls apart when you properly acknowledge the fact that AI artists are real artistsHOLY FUCKING KEK I WISH YOU LUCK ON YOUR BOTTOM SURGERY ANON :) >and facebook ai loving normies are... le good!
>>725091938it is trained on photorealistic images and video. img2vid or img2img is using the source image, txt2vid or txt2img will use a source image to guide it. A digital image or video is simply 1's and 0's (bits) "AI" genning uses noise to gen into a realistic image or video. And of course the best test is to do a blind test, show say 100 images or video clips and have some genned and some as photographs or videos etc. How confident would you be of picking which was genned and which were not? Same applies to genned music now, as even commercial music is over produced then it would be pretty difficult to pick out unknown human made music and the genned ones. AI slop is a term used because it is so easy to gen media now - albeit a lot doesn't have the care and detail - but that is down to who prompted it
>>725066662>>725068168> ai bro claims ai can make new things> the only slop he can produce is shoehorning pop culture icons into unexpected settingsLmao nice ‘creativity’ you got there, ai bros. I think at this point ai bros should be less concerned about the mechanics and skill of how produce art, and more concerned with how profoundly uncreative and lacking in imagination they seem to be
>>725094237keep coping retard
>>725091938what do you mean? this is literally photorealistic, you can only tell is AI because of the absurdityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCYAZlp23NQ
>>725084745And anti-AI netouyo chud like Akane Himasora isn't your ally either. Hope that helps!>>725086770Being neutral is le bad now because trannies love being neutral (who the hell actually thinks that anyway)
>>725064262You know, that for years, before AI was a thing, ready-made assets already existed. You could go onto stores and buy models, maps, sounds, music, essentially everything to build a game except the code and idea for it. If your ideas were good enough, why weren't you making games before AI?
>>725094237>I WISH YOU LUCK ON YOUR BOTTOM SURGERY ANON :)the irony saying this as an anti-AIfag kek
>>725086905>defend Disney's copyrights for freeAnti-AI japs are like that lmao
Can you answer me what good AI has done, without resorting to these two responses?1. It makes cheap porn2. It makes "you" seethe.
I find it funny that pajeets always make up straw men, post hilarious bullshit, straight up lie just to make themselves look good. Tho it wouldn't surprise me if they also use AI to shitpost.
>>725095685i can tell because i've seen a slice of lemon before
>>725094237>you make art but I don't like how you make it so it's not artHow is this any different from believing men can become women? It's so ironic seeing delusional people calling other people delusional.
>>725072520It's an age old question, what's the base prompt?
>>725064197cool, but you are still forced to pay for it
I present you, the future of video games.https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1986332328206159872/vid/avc1/3840x2160/57j9ROqK_9gaj30f.mp4
>>725096108ask AI
>>725096748holy kino goty
>>725096108it makes tech billionaires even richer
>>725096748I feel like I lost braincells watching this garbage
>>725096748This looks like something they'd have on on a background TV in a really bad procedural drama.
>>725096748This is what I imagine playing Clair Obscur looks like. I will never know for certain, because I ain't playing that shit.
>>725096748all traditional devs are finished, this can never be topped
>>725097173this and that one french game named explorer 1392 or somethin
>>725097007I think it''s cute. I liked when the femboy crossed streams with the futa girlboss baddie witch
>>725097258???
>>725096748slopge will be real in our lifetime
the way you know AI is absolutely part of the near future is that it's literally impossible to have any sane discussion about it on any public forum without it immediately devolving into bad faith argumentation on all sides.
>>725071875>2 more weeks!!!hahahahah
>>725096748>>725086974Do AI jeets actually think that this soulless, generic slop looks good?
>>725099296>solid 8/10 CGI is bad nowyou're so fucking spastic
>>725099445Yes, it looks bad, because it looks extremely generic "hyper realisitc" graphical style I've seen a hundred fucking times before, that completely fails at capturing the aesthetics of the ghibli films they are clearly pretending to take after. High graphical fidelity =/= quality.
>>725099534post yours
>Yes, it looks bad, because it looks extremely generic "hyper realisitc" graphical style I've seen a hundred fucking times before, that completely fails at capturing the aesthetics of the ghibli films they are clearly pretending to take after. High graphical fidelity =/= quality.
>>725069019The data itself also isn't perfect. There are many significant improvements that could be made to it.
>>725064509I saw a picture of snail-cat being labeled as not AI.This shit is not reliable.
>>725067971Most artists produce derivative works.
>>725074065it has nothing to do with being a spiritually vegan. It is not simply because AI it's immoral. It is just ugly and uninspired.Like going to a bad burgerplace with stale meat and calling people who complain about it vegans>food analogyhow about you take your food anally
>>725086905yeah just use the word trannies a dozen more times then maybe people will agree with youyou will never be an artist
>>725099795My what? I don't claim to be an animator, retard.You can however just watch Spirited Away or Howl's moving castle to see the source materials on which the ai slop you posted are based on.
>>725096748>>725086974>Snoy ultra realism NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN over the shoulder cinematic slop but now with AI
/ic/chads rise up
>>725064262Yours will be the same slop as the one billion other AI games being shat out every hour.
>>725064197great bait for retards. I see that you image is AI.>>725064262even greater bait for even bigger retards. good job guys.Ofc we will all use AI and laugh for days.
>>725073284skill issue
>>725100943get this ugly globohomo out of here
>>725101039that's the point you worthless biotrash. why are you this fucking stupid? The whole point of AI is not to show your irrelevant ass a picture and let your retardation judge it. The point is to finally bring about the age of plenty. Progress is slow, but it is coming. Soon you and I, and each h00man will play a specific tailored just for them videogame filled with bots larping as h00mans. You will be inside a new bubble and you will love it, because biologically you're just a retarded great ape.
>>725101386Fantasy. 99% will be low quality slop shat out by 2 guys in New Dehli. You will never find anything you like because even if it exists it's drowned in a sea of shit.
>>725064262People will play his game, your slop will be rightfully ignored.
>>725101586wishful thinking
>>725064262It's the opposite, your games will be received worse than they would have been because the public will look at it and go "oh that's AI slop"Think of if this way, if the largest game companies in the biggest game franchise like rockstar and GTA couldn't get away with AI assets, there is no chance some no-name indie random will.
>>725101556Never before have I encountered a human specimen so profoundly retarded as this one.Your will make your own game with AI. By just telling it what you would like to play. And I would do the same. And we will play different games forever. Created by each of us for ourselves. You will never play a jeet AI game, because you can create one yourself. The one you have always dreamt of. Presumably just as fucking retarded as you are.
>>725101701Magically. Good luck with all that lol
>>725064197Are you a woman? Because that is lacking in construction but overly decorative, that's how women draw
>>725066256>letters, or buttons, have a special smear quality, similar to a JPEG photomeanwhile two post above you is AI image with clear text that isn't smeared. Embarrassing
>>725101556>find anything you likeYou're supposed to generate your own media in the AI age, you retarded consumer goyim. You'll have to gain a little bit of sentience I'm afraid
>>725101881>t. brainletbut of course. What else is there to expect from a limited ape? kek. 10 years ago you were telling everybody that a computer will never be able to draw an image or to arrange a number of notes in a sequences aka compose a melody. And look at you and your imbecilic stance now. I bet that you're a religious cuck.It doesn't even enter your head that the concept of creation of interactive media is quite simple and easy.
>>725064262You won't make shit
robots are going to make you cum and there's nothing you can do about it
>>725102373nta but I already made about 110 image sets in comfyui. I come up with a story and everything, I have characters and costumes and all that. I'm not stopping ever, when animation gets good enough I'll be making full blown episodes for my own titillation
How come AIfags get so mad when you ask them to post some of the games that they are supposedly working on?
>>725099834Is this uncanny valley shit supposed to refute him?
>>725102959Because nobody is making AI games? Everyone is prompting anime images though. Here, have one>inb4 noooo the left nostril is slightly offshe cute though, that's why we prompt
>>725096748this looks like the music video to californication
>>725068168Part of what bugs me about AI is that pictures like yours contain obvious errors, like the faces being nonsensical. And if an artist made those errors we'd complain.It just makes me feel like AI art is conditioning us to accept art being full of random, senseless noise. Because only the prompt has intention and not the details. Obviously is has some advantages like being very fast, but it still irks me.
I'm gonna train an AI model on pixel slop and release a hundred metroidvanias in no time.
>>725066531these sites kinda work, but they've been trained on ai images, so if you used a lora that copied an artist's style, that artist images will likely be tagged as ai too.
>>725099834ai shit is so weird to look at. it's how I imagine aliens assume humans move and behave
>>725102306>ok see this blank game project? >well there's nothing there yet but there will be
>>725103961Have you seen a Ghibli film? They do move like that
>>725104009what kind of a message is this? What are you trying to accomplish by being retarded? Governments and businesses around the world have started to utilize and integrate automation via AI and gamedev is no exception.All of the AAA game companies today use AI and you don't even know it, because you're a brainlet.
>>725104009>there's nothing there yetThere isn't nothing there, you can go and prompt an Atari tier game with any chatbot you like. Give it a couple of tries and it won't even be broken. Why do you guys need to pretend this doesn't work when you can do it yourself in literally 10 seconds
>>725100484Good riddance then
>>725104096no the laughter on the left is overdramatic. you see this shit all the time with ai generations. prompt it to laugh and it will act like it just saw the most hilarious thing ever. prompt it to be sad and it will give the most hammy over-the-top crying imaginable. not to mention so many times the generation is clearly starting from a still image and then adding motion rather than being a logical extension of the image. you can see this with the hair blowing starting suddenly and then increasing in intensity, which also looks weird because they are clearly not outside the window. this isn't what ghibli movies look like at all, so the real question is have you seen a ghibli film or do you not understand human behavior?
>>725103741are you suggesting that human made art rarely has errors if at all? The art you're likely thinking of when you say this is like the top 0,01% of artistic output for humans. The vast, vast majority of humans who produce art make tons of mistakes and some really egregious, without even having a fraction of the rendering detail and fidelity even the most dogshit AI can achieve. I don't think anyone claims AI can produce better quality art than the actual professional high end artists, which is what you seem to be comparing them to
>>725064262fpbp femboy futa house won
>>725104183>>725104195@grok can i finna get a summary?
>>725095260The thing you don't understand is that I am actually anti-AI. If you can't refute the points I am presenting, however, then it weakens the anti-AI stance.The images I am posting are not meant to illustrate the points that I am describing. They're just examples of AI art that I found interesting.>>725103741You say this, but how do you explain being okay with surrealist art from Salvador Dali, or the physically impossible (and thus "erroneous") art work of MC Escher? As the other anon asked, are you saying that no human has EVER been shitty at drawing hands or feet, or cut corners in the artistic process? The fact that you even see these errors AS errors is an implicit bias, since it's not unreasonable for an artist to claim "I made the faces distorted on purposes, to illustrate some point I was making."Furthermore, the errors you describe are based around the fact that -current stage- AI generated art is heavily based on a main focal point. You're not meant to focus on the details in your peripheral, and if you don't focus on them, your eyes and brain will naturally autocorrect all of the errors you're pointing out. Future iterations of AI art will almost assuredly solve this issue, too. Once that has happened, will you accept it as "real" art like human art? This is a question of defining thresholds.
>>725068168AI needs a pre-existing data set for every element of its painting, which means it needs hundreds of examples of things other people have already seen and processed. A human can be the first person on earth to experience something and it can be a single data point yet that is enough. We aren't only talking about visual art here, it applies to writing, sound and other senses.But it's nature AI must be pre-digested
>>725106220nta, but exactly the same applies to you. You have been taking data in and processing it for over 18 years now and look at how retarded you still are.Current AI models are barely 5 year old and they're already smarter than you are.
>>725107151Take a second to re-read what I wrote and try again
>>725106220>AI needs a pre-existing data set for every element of its paintingSo does a human being. A human who was born deaf, dumb, and blind will never paint something coherent because they have no frame of reference - they have only ever experienced absolute darkness. If they apply random colors to a canvas, even if the arrangement is "new," it's still just an arrangement of colors, and AI can do that too.>A human can be the first person on earth to experience something>A human can be the first personI imagine a human would HAVE to be the first person to experience something, since dogs and bugs and single-celled organisms aren't people. That aside, this is fundamentally flawed because under that premise, the thing being experienced has to occur first, outside of the power or will of the person. Nothing in human-made art is "fundamentally new." It's all just a manifestation of the person's experiences or perceptions. It's all a combination of data points from their lives. Data presented to AI is equally data.
>>725064197>I wont use AI for my games.Chinese will and you will lag behind
>>725107241>computer needs data>brain = computa>brain needs datagetting panties in a twist?the entire process of living, let alone raising you from 0-18 is all about you taking data in, processing in, and making some kind of output in some form. You operate just as a computer does, you retarded ape.The universe's language is mathemathics. A word so alien and scary to you, and yet it is how the universe operates. And universe includes your irrelevant ass, you mong.
>>725107151nta but tfw dae le epic bacon ntr wmaf narwhale??!
>>725107483is this AI?
>>725107589Congratulations for acknowledging that AI relies on data compiled and pre-digested by other humans while the human uses his own senses. You also conveniently ignored the part where machine learning algorithms require massive amounts of data to form a concept while the interesting artist creates his own from a thread of experience.Try again
>>725107718desu desu AI moshi. shiggy diggy.
>725107798yikes
>>725107737Yep, as I understand it. 20 years ago it would have been "a really cool space wallpaper image" but now it's "a really cool space wallpaper image that was made using AI trained on really cool space wallpaper images."The one I am posting right now, however, is not AI, though frankly, it could easily be mistaken as such since "it has so many errors.">>725107798>AI relies on data compiled and pre-digested by other humans while the human uses his own senses.Your senses are just the ways by which your brain receives data. Your brain IS a biological computer, and it processes said information in the exact same way that AI processes information. "You" did not "do" anything to perceive life/experience/data around you, but your brain still has to be presented with that data to do anything and permit you to have thoughts about said data.>machine learning algorithms require massive amounts of data to form a concept while the interesting artist creates his own from a thread of experience.The artist's experience in your example IS "a massive amount of data," and this is the point that the other anon is trying to illustrate for you, which you are not comprehending.
>>725107483It's predigested data that has to have passed through another human for it to even be in the data set, the more people the better the output. raw experience has more value to a form of expression that prizes novelty and individuality.
>>725103390>Because nobody is making AI games?AI is /v/core then
>>725107798>Congratulations for acknowledging that AI relies on dataHas anybody ever seriously stated otherwise? I can clearly member the hosters of huge models being unhappy with the internet being too smol and all of the internet data not being enough for AI.>pre-digested by other humans while the human uses his own senses.this is a pile of pseudo-intellectual retarded garbage. Any form of life, let alone any animal, processes data in their immediate surroundings and act accordingly or tries to. And by the way, the human sense you're praising actually suck. Cats have more senses. Birds have better vision that humans do, and the list goes on, and on, and on.Did you know by the way, that other species, like dolphins are self-aware, conscious, processing data and might even be smarter than some humans? They can recognize themselves in the mirrors.TL;DR here is: Shut up, you fucking retard. You aren't special. Not even close.>You also conveniently ignored the part where machine learning algorithms require massive amounts of dataSo do humans. You process way more data than you're conscious about. The data input of all of your sense and receptors is quite large and is going on 24/7.>to form a conceptretarded ass nigger, just our species alone have required over 200.000 years of evolution for you to be able to post your retarded bullshit on the internet. Serious AI field in science exists apprx. since 1950's. LLM's are less than 10 years old. Can you give a computer some time, you non contributing shiteating mongoloid?> the interesting artist creates his own from a thread of experience.99.99999% of all of the human output, that includes art is complete fucking dogshit. Being sub 80iq you obviously fall victim to the obvious survivorship bias and want to reinforce the few gems that human species have created, let me repeat myself, over the past 200.000+ years.>Try againShut up, you stupid pretentious cuck.
>>725108113No, you are not comprehending that what distinguishes an artist is not what they have in common with others and the data that is repeated ad nauseum, it's the rare experience and insight that is unique to them or has gone unsaid by others.I don't care about this semantic shit from a god level perspective of atoms, I'm pointing out why human art will remain more interesting than the predigested shit. You can get excited when AI is real and not a marketing label
>>725074065hope you feel the same about gay flags
>>725108140>It's predigested data that has to have passed through another human for it to even be in the data setIs this even true? If a human sets up a bot that scrapes Reddit, and the bot scrapes a Reddit thread that was created by a bot, which no human read, does the "predigested data" actually require a human? How many degrees away from humanity does something have to be before you'd consider it free from the shackles of humanity?>raw experience has more value to a form of expression that prizes novelty and individuality.This is flippant mumbo jumbo, frankly. It's purely subjective to the point of being blind faith. "Raw experience" is no different from "refined experience" or "digested experience" in that it's all just data. "Novelty and individuality" are equally nebulous concepts once you get into the nitty gritty because what is novel to one person could be utterly mundane to someone else who has more life experience. >>725108473>what distinguishes an artistYou're either blind to, or purposefully ignoring, the undeniable fact that for everyone distinguished artist, there are a thousand undistinguished, derivative, untalented artists. Those humans exist too, and they're antithetical to your argument.
>>725108434blah blah blah blah. Missed the point entirely. You are arguing with a strawman who disagrees that humans are pattern recognition machines, I'm explaining to you why they remain different in how they gather data and why this is significant to artistic output. Everything you are saying is pseudo intellectual rambling about nothing.
>>725108715>I'm explaining to you why they remain differentYou are not actually explaining anything, you are stamping your foot and repeating your seemingly baseless claim louder. >>725108434's tone is rude but his statements are correct, factually.
>>725064197
>>725108689The source is another human thought you fucking moron, it doesn't matter how many layers of bullshit it passes through. The concepts and memes that survive mutation only do so because enough people have spammed the internet with it for a algo to pick it up.If you're down to rejecting the definitions of easily understood English words I'm afraid this conversation is over, I'm not arguing with a purposely obtuse retard.Nobody cares about shitty artists, this is not a debate about whether AI can make shit art, we already know it can
>>725108838>80iq retard thinks pseud rambling about dolphins is what the point of the argument is.I'm tired of arguing with midwits and their brain damaged cronies
>>725109231the irony
>>725108715>blah blah blah blahtouche>Missed the point entirely.there was no point, only dumb ramblings of a person having a hard time coping with reality and therefore living in a world of madeup bullshit.>You are arguing with a strawman who disagrees that humans are pattern recognition machinesThe AI is much better at pattern recognition than humans are. Which is why the military all around the world utilize the AI to help them analyze truly vast amount of data.You made up some bullshit yet again and pretented I was wrong about something we weren't even talking about. And yet you're still wrong. pottery.>I'm explaining to you why they remain different in how they gather data and why this is significant to artistic outputthe difference in gathering data is localisation to a smaller machine (human brain) and initially more ways to input the data, visual, audible, tactile, and so on. The only reason machines do no posses the same 5 sense as humans do is because we're not really building them in an embodied form, which is very hard to do. But we try. Esp hard to make sex robots.But this, once again, has fucking nothing to do with the processing of the data and the output. The neural network, which LLM utilizes for training, is called a neural network, because it is designed after the web of neurons in the human brain.TL;DR: The learning process in nutshell is literally the same for a human and the LLM.
>>725109138>it doesn't matter how many layers of bullshit it passes throughIt absolutely does, because if it doesn't then all human experience is just the electrical processing of impulsive atoms. The arrangement of atoms IS a layer of human experience, but no rational person would think it so in a casual setting because it's so many layers removed from how we perceive life. Again, I ask you: How many degrees away from humanity does something have to be before you'd consider it free from the shackles of humanity?The rest of your post is transparent face-saving, as you refuse to address the philosophical questions I've proposed. Shit artists DO matter to this discussion. Your "easily understood definitions" are not actually as easily understood as you'd like to pretend that they are. You're free to retreat from this discussion, but understand that in doing so you are surrendering ground from your argument. You are making your own talking points look weaker by behaving as you are.
>>725109308>Did you know by the way, that other species, like dolphins are self-aware, conscious, processing data and might even be smarter than some humans? They can recognize themselves in the mirrors.Kek, this malfunctioning bot is your answer to why llms are different than how a brain inputs data? >Did you know dolphins are smarter than me, therefore llms don't actually rely on pre-digested memes to form concepts!I'm sorry you are so stupid a dolphin is smarter then you, life must be difficult.
These threads are the worst
>>725109540How many fucking times do I have to repeat that humans input data differently to llms which use pre-digested data. Can you not fucking understand English? You write paragraphs on paragraphs of irrelevant pesud bullshit to scramble for a position to arguments that aren't being made. Yes, come back to me when they build a machine with all the senses a human has, that organically generates its own algorithms and collects its own data and then I'll agree that there is functionally no difference. Untill then you're swimming in a sea of stale memes and I'm not interested in your art or your stupid mitwit opinions.
>>725109778>so upset he quotes the wrong postkek
>>725110090I disagree. I love a good highlight of human stupidity.>artistswho the fuck ever came up with retarded bullshit that artists are somehow special, or better, or more intelligent, or know more? For example: I can make a perfect pixel art of a cube in paint and post it. Or an X. you know any placeholders in videogames while they're in development and wait for better images.So, do I now have to be a pretentious cocksucking imbecile doing all of the braindead bullshit the "artists" do? Fuck them. Anybody can draw and anybody mathemathics, even if there is such a thing as a hard cap, because all of it is simply a matter of putting time in and grinding, gindring, grinding.AI streamlines and accelerates this process. Thank fuck I don't have to draw placeholders anymore, when an AI can generate me all of them in under 10 minutes.
>>725109705>How many degrees away from humanity does something have to be before you'd consider it free from the shackles of humanity?What the fuck are you talking about, who are you talking to? The argument is not about whether something is human or not it's about whether the dataset that is generating ideas is born from pre-digested stale memes or not. No amount of passing these memes through rounds of AI will change its fundamental nature. Generic, formulaic, passe, hacky, un original, this is how we refer to shit art. This is fundamentally the nature of machine learning
>>725110218No I'm treating you as the same person because you either are or you're both stupid in exactly the same ways so you are interchangable.
>>725110692so you're a schizophrenic retard, got it.
>>725110371Kek nobody ever said artists were better than you, your insecurities and hangups are showing. The reason they have social cache that you are jealous of is the same reason someone who hates artists is posting on a forum about art and cultural artifacts. I'm sorry nobody gave a shit about your autistic pursuits but you were too retarded to make anything useful or interesting.
>>725110754And you're boring, next person.
>>725064197Nobody who matters gives a fuck. It matters if your game is good. It won't be.
offtopic poojeet threadand I wouldnt be surprised if the retards here arent just llms botting each other
>>725110371>Failed indie devkek
>>725110830>Kek nobody ever said artists were better than you, your insecurities and hangups are showingYou are retarded. Non retards observe that tons of people only think automatization is an issue if it affects artists. Dumb.
>>725111114thissource: people only started bitching and crying when image generation began to take off
>>725110160>pre-digested data.This phrase does not actually mean what you think it means. You've basically created a circular argument that posits that all data is created by humans, when in reality, humans process data that is created outside of themselves. >>725110625>What the fuck are you talking about, who are you talking to?Originally I thought I was arguing with a person who didn't think too deeply about the things he was espousing, but since you're failing to follow the conversation between us I am starting to reevaluate that presupposition. You stated:>It's predigested data that has to have passed through another human for it to even be in the data setAnd i asked if your premise was even true, posing a hypothetical situation in which a bot scrapes a thread that was created by a bot. You have not responded to my hypothetical yet. That's the current phase of that discussion, not whatever you're talking about with memes.>No amount of passing these memes through rounds of AI will change its fundamental nature. What you are describing is a faith, which is fundamentally separate from logic or reason.>Generic, formulaic, passe, hacky, un original, this is how we refer to shit art.Sure, but since that applies to bother human art and machine art, what is the actual difference between human and machine art?
>>725110160>>725110160Just stop your pseudointellectual bullshit, because your ramblings have nothing to do with reality. For example:>and collects its own datathe fuck does that even mean? what is the ownership of data? why are you so fucking retarded? You do know that the perception of the temperature outside of your built-in thermormeter is data. and that the fucking thermotemers created by humans also measure it and also record it, right? the fuck is "it's own data". So braindead.>Yes, come back to me when they build a machine with all the senses a human hasagain, you're retarded. there is way more data and way more senses are needed to perceive it than humans even posses. But you're a limited mong, so obviously you don't understand that literally all the data gathering tools humans have built over millenia help humans advance even further, without this data being owned, even perceived as existing without these tools. Like the infared spectrum. Can you see heat? Proper eyes do. You just suck as a human.>that humans input data differently to llms which use pre-digested data.I don't even know what this bullshit means. Seriously. Humans input data where? You loving to input buttplugs is not valuable data by any means. Let's pick this apart>llms which use pre-digested dataLLMs do not only use the pre-digested data, because there are immense volumes of data that a human being can't gather on it's own. Computers/tool do that and feed that data to other computers/tools. Do you percieve electric signals and atoms in the network cable? A machine measures it. How do you have the data of the internet speed? Did you measure it with your limited 5 senses?Please shut up and go learn some natural sciences. Ignorant and retarded as you are, you're making the world worse.>>725110830>nobody ever said artists were betterartists imply it all the time, even you do in this post of yours. The funny reality is, that the artists aren't good or special at all. Fuck them.
>>725075070kek
>>725111114No, it's is just the discussion is about artists and programmers right now because it is affecting them first. The only real complaint anyone has about AI is fear over losing their job and this will spread to all professions in time.The fact that llms cannot make meaningful art is not about trying to make artists special or more meaningful it's an objective statement about how humans inout data, how they form interesting udeas and what we value in art. Machines will eventually surpass all forms of human expression but this form of "AI" isn't it.
>>725111264Ok I have to explain another very basic concept to you like you're a fucking autistic baby. A man who has not experienced anything in his life besides starwars, then becomes an artist who solely writes fan fiction is a shitty artist, why? Because all his thoughts are pre-digested for him. The themes in films are already picked and explored by the director and writer, if that is your only source then you will forever remain derivitive and uninteresting. This is the unavoidable state of concepts that surface in llms.
>>725111878>the only way to be creative is to watch lots of goysloplmao
>>725111878>The themes in films are already picked and explored by the director and writer, if that is your only source then you will forever remain derivitive and uninteresting.Pulp Fiction. Best movie ever, that has been created so far proves you wrong. It was created by a cinephile.
>>725111309A robot with senses that experience the world on its own would be collecting raw data, why do I have to explain simple shit to you.I read 1 sentence and you already missed to point, I truly cannot be bothered to read your endless essays about irrelevant bullshit.
>>725111946Literally the complete opposite of what I just said, don't talk to me if you can't read.>>725111993Tarrantino remains a human with his own experiences and worldview. Being informed by other art is not the same as being imprisoned in other people's memes.
>>725112029>A robot with senses that experience the world on its own would be collecting raw dataAny data ever that humans "posses" and somehow "process" or "digest" outside of 5 humans senses is pretty much raw data, that is not collected nor owned, not digested by humans.>do I have to explain simple shit to you.yes, because you're clinically retarded.>I read 1 sentence and you already missed to pointyou are correct, you're factually wrong about data and humanity in the very first sentence of this post of yours.>I truly cannot be bothered to read your endless essays about irrelevant bullshit.It's called learning, anon. Something you severely lack and AI does not. Which is just more evidence, that AI is better than you are in literally every single way.
>>725111878>A man who has not experienced anything in his life besides starwars, then becomes an artist who solely writes fan fiction is a shitty artist, why?This hypothetical is completely baseless and pales in comparison to the one I presented earlier about the man in the cave, who is introduced to a tree. >>725068168Furthermore, as other people have observed, plenty of good films and film makers were inspired by pop culture and other films that came before them.Even FUTHERmore, I am sure I could find examples of fan fiction that are good. I don't care to at this moment, but statistically speaking I am sure such things exist (like an example of a spinoff series made 10 years later, that is better than the original show it was based on).All of this ignoring that you are, once again, not answering my question. You dodge and weave but the question is still right there, unanswered, hitting you in the face.
>>725064262fippybippy the artcucks did not like this one. they had to delay their paid commissions another month after seeing this to take their 10th mental health hiatus this year
>>725102590Post your game
>>725112271We're in a thread about art, you keep trying to change the subject to be about something else, if you have an llm gathering raw data about how the stock market moves I'm sure you'll generate an algorithm that is smarter than humans at that particular task, this is because it exists on the same plane of existence and data collection as a data analyst.That's not what we are discussing but you are autistic and pedantic and have to be corrected constantly or you ramble about nothing.Does it not occur to you that a collection of photos taken by other humans is influenced by the decision of a human to take that photo in the first place? Google images wasn't randomly populated by spontaneously occuring data, all art was generated and uploaded by other people, it is pre-digested experience.
>>725103390>Because nobody is making AI gamesHuh? But the first post in this thread claimed they are >>725064262Could it possibly be that... AIfags are lazy faggots that wont ever actually make anything?
>>725112462Hey bro, want to post what youve made so far with your game?
>>725112418Yes and fan fiction that is good is good because it is fused with other experiences that aren't pre-digested memes. You are now spinning in circles and I'm bored. I was testing to see if your arguments have evolved in the past year, they have not, I'll try again in another year
>>725112796He's too busy jerking his brain into the toilet, he'll get to it after his 50th goon session this week.
>>725112698>Does it not occur to you that a collection of photos taken by other humans is influenced by the decision of a human to take that photo in the first place?That is being narrow minded trying to romanticize human acitivty. Reality is given the taske of generating all possible imagery limited to the scope of the technology designed after the human eye (photocamera), the same outputs will occur. It's just mathemathics. The human eyes is only capable of seeing in certain spectrum, so certain colors under certain conditions. Given a randomizer painting pixels in them chaotically, after a number of combinations any and all the possible "photos" that would seem pleasant, worse, pseudointellectually deep, whatsoever, will be created.It's the same thought experiment as the infinity of monkeys typing randomly on the writers.WIth the case of AI we can narrow the randomness down or we can order it to be super random, and depending on the size of the canvas, aka resolution of the image in megapixels, it might not even take a lot of time to generate the same and better.TL;DR: It's a game of numbers. Told you in the first post, the entire universe is numbers.
>>725112796bot post
>>725113262Humans take photos of meme things, meme things from the statistically averages/concepts that AI uses, AI generates boring memes. I'm sorry you can't understand this simple chain.
>>725113396>I'm sorry you can't understand this simple chain.No, you misunderstood. You don't even need an AI. You need a simple pseudo random computer generator. Give it a canvas size/resolution. Tell it to "create" by making all of the possible combinations of all the colors with all of the pixel positions on the canvas. You will get all of the human art and more, including all the things on the planet on more, sooner or later. Or so it would seem to your eyes and your brain. You'll perceive it as something familiar, maybe nice, beautiful, deep, etc, all that bullshit. In reality it will be just a random colors on pixels generator that has been left to randomize for an eternity.TL;DR: Everything is just a sequence, a combination, and all of it is information.
>>725113675>Pseud bullshitYou need to get out of your own ass
>>725113809>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theoremapplied to pixels and colors. How are artists so fucking retarded, that they don't even know what an image is and how human eyes work?
>>725113905This is midwit shit that everyone already knows, it is irrelevant. You might as well be bullshitting about the Heisenberg cat.
>>725113905Cringe
>>725113905Not possible to brute force all RGB combinations possible in a 1024 2D array with current computer tech.
