conclusion?
more of the sameonly braindead parasloppers will buy this
>>725127234the real victoria 3
>>725127234Nothing ever happens the game
Legend of Total War likes it which triggers TWWniggers so it is based
Too complicated.
>>725128506yea we know
>>725128367Why would TW fans be triggered by someone liking EUV?
Redpill me on the hre
>>725127234It takes 20 hours of nothing to reach the age of exploration. You could've finished an eu4 campaign in that time.
me and bestie
>>725127234Haven't tried it but it's at mostly positive on steam and literally every negative review whines about it being too complex and difficult to understand so it should be 11/10 GOAT
>>725127234Boring mechanics, too many provinces, dogshit UI, nothing ever happensEU4 will forever be the GOAT
>>725128616Because he's a yidtuber that started flaming CA after they dropped the ball for the billionth time so now the redditors are treating him as am apostate
>>725127234Pacing is shit. Mite b cool in two years.
It genuinely makes eu4 feel like a baby game.I cant believe they added complexity instead of simplifying things in a new release
>>725128680>Sent more people to hell then any other person on EarthA tragedy
>>725129250Yes but how about the AI? If its shit then it doesn't matter
my mans lookin fresh
>>725121743Logistics I get, but what is the logic behind the other two?
>>725129352>Yes but how about the AI?>france is blobbing>spain ate portugal>hre is a shitshowseems good
This is my first ever GSG. I have no idea what's going on or what I'm even supposed to be doing. I'm considering actually buying it because despite being so lost I'm having fun (or I think I am).
Achievement unlocker without iron man mod when?
>>725127234chud coded
>>725129917Quit being a savescumming degenerate
>>725129626play EU4 instead, it's better
>>725127234You can make the game purely 2D which is beyond based and sovlful.
>>725129626it's most complicated parashit gsg out there so it's understandable to be lost, I sure am and I'm addicted to them since EU3
>>725127234Like the mechanicsDislike the UIUnsure about the timeframe, I like medieval times but we got ck3 for that, it takes FOREVER to get to colonization, in general each year is much slower than each eu4 year
>>725127234Needs balancing work. Mostly in regards to economy, buildings, regional flair, and ESPECIALLY AI. The actual core game is shockingly solid though so it has real potential as they give it polish, for fucking once they don't have a turd to work with but a gem in the rough.
>>725129332The concept of the papacy is fanfic garbage never backed up by the Bible
>>725130237I unironically love the UI. It's the first Paradox UI in ages that's function over form.
>>725130009I can live without saving. Lucky nations is pure fucking retardation.
>>725130279Niether is the Trinity or Sola Fida/Sola Scriptura but I bet you aint Mormon or JW
>>725130237>play novorgrod >colonization day 1 ????
>>725130427>Niether is the Trinity30 I and the Father are one.”
>mfw I discover the hard way that I can only take an amount of loans limited by my estate's spare moneyFirst bankrupcy and I wasn't even in a difficoult economic position
Brandenburg is hell.This sucks so much.
>>725129626How can you have fun with it when you haven't boughted it?
>don't declare a rival>antagonism risesHow does this make sense?
>>725127234Worth the price for just the music and loading screen art. Expected them to dumb it down but they didn't. Brought all the great mechanics from IV into V and expanded on them. Market system is cool. 10/10 for me
>>725130279worse than imagined, byz spent 300 years defending them and then while byz is getting rekt by mudshits the papacy said actually Charlemagne is our new daddy but the worst betrayal of daddy with always be venice.
I really like it. The peacetime gameplay is much better, there's far more to do and none of it has any made up "mana." You know exactly what is causing what (once you learn it) and aren't just juggling admin, diplo, and military power anymore.The main complaint is>it takes agesWhich is true, you will be playing for probably 15-20 hours before you reach the start point of EU4. Every campaign is an actual long campaign now, rather than something you just dive into for fun.But I really like it. Best Paradox release in a very long time.
>>725130950peace is not an option, chuddie
>>725130950you must be european and don't understand how jingoism works
You can bet your ass the motherfucking comet event is still there, what the fuck you mean -7 stability right as I was getting it back up fuck you
I hate tard wrangling estates. Hopefully it will get better.>pass shit law for nobility that increase their influence by 500%>no?>50% loyalty hit
im assuming every ottomanboo that has been complaining has been silent once they realized in 1402 that timur shattered them into a 20 year civil war. and they would alt f4 if that event triggered in their game.
>>725131398Based, strictly negative events that you can't get yourself out of and have to deal with the consequences of are a good thing.
>>725130950The only way I can guess is that by not announcing a rival everyone is just suspicious since you could swing any way.
>>725127234what victoria 3 should have beenstill overpriced dogshit that needs 3 years minimum of updates to be playable.
>>725131501that's how it was in EU4. if they have a lot of influence, you'll get fucked when you deny what they want. so you either keep them powerless, or become their bitch
dunno, just downloaded the fitgirl repack because the reviews (from people who actually played the game, not the 5 hour review NIGGERS) say it's fucking shallow and shittyi've bought too many games this year that fucking sucked ass, i think i'm going back to pirating everything that isn't denuvo'd
>have a decently sized economy>around 60 ducats and growing>suddenly a burgher event that makes me lose 270>well alright I guess I'll just tank it with loa->WE ARE BANKRUPT!?????????
>>725127234superior to eu4 in every waybut civ, ahem eu4toddlers will complain
>>725131831Automatic loans are no longer a thing >>725130726Now if your estates/foreign banks don't have enough money at that precise moment you are fucked and just go bankrupt
>>725129352I only played Ireland but England and Scotland seem like a graver threat than euIV
I refuse to buy paradox games they release dlc too much and you have to buy it or you get menus you can’t use they can’t just release a game and leave it the fuck alone what do you mean I have to spend $200 on the game or buy a monthly subscription it’s stupid stupid stupid I won’t buy never ever is it so much to ask for a good complete game with no dlc ever added
>>725132585just pirate them niggy
>>725132585nobody asked
>>725132585I:R is fairly complete and goes on sale frequently for cheap. It has 2-3 small DLCs so it doesn't suffer from DLC bloat like the other games.
>>725131002Who would you rather please, a giga nigga who can always swing down to Italy and depose you or some incompetent retards that keep exploding into civil wars and are getting smaller every time you look at the map?
It’s great
>>725132585I beg of you, please use punctuation.
>>725132893kawaii anime girls don’t use punctuation
>>725130279the bible is fanfic garbage
>>725130279>And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
>>725132585Looking at your grammar you are not really part of the target audience for these games. Just go back to fortnite and its battle passes.
>>725132585you see, paradox games have so many bugs that it requires additional years of development to iron them out. that means work with no monetary compensation, but just dropping the game after a few patches would damage their reputation (even further). this is why they developed the current DLC model. they produce fixes and DLC at the same time. old bugs get fixed, new introduced and the cycle continues. genius
>>725130950with your enemies you know where you stand, but with neutrals, you can never be sure
>>725130427>believing in the scriptures isn't backed up by scripture
>>725132585>or you get menus you can’t usethat's horriblehow can anyone even play a game if there's a menu in it they won't use?
>>725127234It way, way too slow.I'm 6 hours in and I haven't even reached the 1400s.
>>725132981I played crusader kings 2 and 3 for a couple hundred hours each I’m the target audience but not anymore they ruined their good faith and good games by being super greedy no good charlatans
>you just have to play for 100 hours before you are allowed to have fun
Is the black death just supposed to teach you the importance of pops?
>>725133295I don't know, I'm against jews like Activision and such but Paradox games are something what you're most likely going to play for thousands of hours.And yet they are still the most easily piratable games out there. Even if you own the base version you can use an unlocker for the DLC (do I recommend this- not with your main steam account).
I'd have bought it if it had the custom nations.
>>725127234>potential game>give it a year
>>725133139Correct.
>>725132585i love you, crea mapi can be used to pirate all dlc for all paradox games
>>725132585Just don't buy the dlc and revert to an older version on steam. I really don't understand why people get annoyed by stuff like this: A company releasing DLC for a singleplayer game doesn't impact you at all unless you buy it.
>>725133720i only did custom nations 2 or 3 times in eu4, it wasn't super super interesting 2medid you do it often? what kind of nations in what part of the world were fun?
>>725132585The post that silenced every shill on earth
https://files.catbox.moe/jkl6mw.webm
>>725133676>(do I recommend this- not with your main steam account).Nobody ever gets their account locked for using them, so far anyway. I've used loads of DLC unlockers, some which have been patched out and suffered not one bit. Valve probably understands banning paying customers is a poor move
>>725134047Becaude this rotten development style enables them to ship out broken barebones trash because the whales are fooled into believing it'll be better five years and $200 later.
>>725134205exactly my thought when i saw that review, it's so fucking insulting seeing these dumbass fucking retards post positive reviews after opening the game for 2 hours for fucking reddit upvotes
>>725134205 >nooo, trade system in eu5 is le bad!!! >meanwhile in memegame2: >ah yes, my glorious inland sorbian republic of lower lusatia, surrounded by bogs, pine forests and the occasional confused prussian tax collector, will now “export” luxury furniture and fine wine directly to China through quantum bog tunneling. >“you have made 800£ from exports.” >...what?? >the spree river is two meters deep and mostly full of frogs. my railroads end in potato fields. my ports are just planks nailed to puddles, but somehow everything gets sold instantly at the equilibrium price set by Jeff Bezos, Archon of Trade. >pirates? embargoes? storms? those are flavor text. >your artisans don’t craft goods, they 3D model them in Blender and upload the STL file to the CloudMart™, where every pop on earth can instantly download a copy. >your merchants? obsolete. every snerb is born with a prussian trade neuralink welded into their skull, bypassing middlemen, customs officers, warehouses, and shipping lanes altogether >event fired: “the cootbus export miracle” >event choices: >1. "praise the market spirits" (-5% literacy in all pops until 1936 (nobody questions how it works)) >2. "question the system" (consciousness +3 in all pops named sławomir, lose 10 prestige for heresy against archon jeff) >3. "invest in actual ports" (-5,000£, gain +5 naval bases, discover ocean)
It's literally MEIOU with a bunch of numbers everywhere
>>725129551Diplo being morale makes sense imo, you need someone who is good at keeping up the soldiers spirits so to speak.Same for siege being an admin stat, it kinda folds into logistics I think, production of siege engines weapons and how to deploy, how to organize the siege camp and keep supply lines going.
>>725130279>>725128680hold still
what's the point of hiring men-at-arms if they get bodied by slightly more numerous levies anyway?
AI Portugal always dies, massive nerf
>>725134397>currency symbol after valueHow's the smog in Delhi?
>>725134627you don't lose workforce
>>725134839it's been only a few days and people already discovered massive AI flaws. Stellaris AI never got fixed btw
>>725134850thank you for upgrading my jeetdar
>>725134548>Diplo being morale makes sense imo, you need someone who is good at keeping up the soldiers spiritsYou need food drink, supplies and the strategic sense to have your men assured they won't die to keep up morale, nobody gives a shit how good your general is at making reddit quips.
>>725132585het!
>>725134363their games are better after 5 years and another $200 tho, in fact you might say hoi4 only became good after 5 years and $200 (new japen dlc in two weeks btw)
>>725135031I remember this guy comparing people who pirate games to child rapists kek
My count just fell down the stairs and died without giving me any kids... great
>>725134850They do that in Europe too.
>>725134839I'm playing portugal again but this time with cheats the cheat is 500k ducats at the start then i close the trainer
Why did they move the start date? What was wrong with 1444?
VGH... oh my EVROPA
>>725134563>>725130279>>725129332>>725128680European Paganism is the superior religion and always will be. Fucking desert jews.
>>725135271i love johan
combat is so retarded in thisI just beat an army, it retreated straight through my fort and onto a smaller stack that was siegeing down a mountain fort
>>725135406because of the leet meme
>>725135457*chops down your tree*
>>725135457This. Imagine being proud of being mentally sujugated by sandniggers.
>>725127234>>725127782This. It's GOATed.
>>725135461sieges are dangerous
PAIN IS SALVATION
>>725135461Never played EU4? Retarded retreats are a mainstay of that game.
>>725135638that's why im complainingit was supposed to be fixed yet somehow they made it worse, bravo johan
>>725135457You can change your religion when playing as Sweden or Norway to Norse Paganism for an extra challenge. It has crazy good buffs if you can survive and boost the religion.
>>725129332Protestantism > Eastern Orthodoxy > Nestorianism > Arianism > Catholicism > Mormonism > Calvinism > Catharismt. Atheist
>>725135407ohnonono don't show this to russians
>>725135546>tfw the last European Pagans resisted the Teutons for ages and still expanded. I wish Lithuania never converted. It's been nice seeing modern people in Europe start to be more interested in their own Pagan roots.>>725135727Neat
>>725130997>pays 60 bucks for an mp3 and a PNG>asks for seconds>is happygood for her.
>>725135756half of those are CONFIRMED apostolic patriots anyway kek
You realize paganism is a LARP, right? Even "true believers" in that era didn't really believe it. It was peer pressure bullshit.
>>725135407vgh...
>>725135969>Even "true believers" in that era didn't really believe itI'm positive they did, most of them at least
>>725128251Your "meme" will never catch on.
>>725135756>Atheist prefers ProtestantismProtestants? Your response?
>release sequel in 2025>it's more complex than the previous entry>it's good
>>725135407Where's the achievement called "Europa Universalis" for owning the entire world as Europa?
>>725135727Religion switching away from Catholic, Sunni or other major religions to minor religions is the real challenge mode. Judaism is a fun one.
What's the plan while playing as small vassals?
>>725134850that's how it's done in nearly every country on earth
>>725136402If you're a Kingdom you're fucked. Better to be a Republic or Theocracy/military order.
>>725136292Can you get achievements with ahistorical formables?
>>725135406Muh byzantium
>>725136519Not at launch but they just patched it because people complained it wasstupid (it is)
>play as Shimazu>nothing to do but research and make some soldiers>wait a hundred years ingame>instantly lose as sengoku jidai startedI don't know if it's because I supported the South instead of North but I had nearly 2000 soldiers at the ready. What a huge waste of time.
>>725136626Then yes Europa Universalis achievement for world conquest as EUR Europa tag should be added, no matter how hard a WC is
>>7251366151444 has Byzantium. That's specifically why it was chosen over 1454.
>>725136615the byz start in this is easily harder than cheesing the straights with galley spam
>>725134397I don't know why this post cracked me up so many times at different points.
>>725136753automate generals/admirals or you'll spawn armies without them
>>725136005So what does forming a country actually give you since there are no national ideas or mission trees or anything else akin to those?
>>725136796Byz is one of the most popular nations with even its own flavour option in settings so I guess the earlier start year could be because its a more challenging situation
>>725136753Update your game piratebro that was fixed on todays patch
>>725134269Yeah I'm just paranoid and in general don't even use Steam unless I absolutely have to.
>>725136895there are unique advances
>>725136862I had general on my army stack as I waited for the sengoku jidai to start. I just don't know why I instantly lost the game the second the event started. I just wanted to be a little clan and fight my way to claim the shogunate.
>>725137060Valve doesn't a give a shit, and if they started they'd give you a warning first
>>725136952I glanced over the change log and didn't see anything regarding Japan. Thanks for letting me know. I'll give the hundred years wait another try.
>>725136774sorry reddit and plaza HATE wc and wc tryhards so they aren't being thrown a bone ever again
I've been playing a lot of EU4 in the run up and even that feels tedious with the amount of events, province count being too high making warfare a pain, game span too long etc.. I don't think anyone actually wants to do development optimizatio or expanded administration or really heavily play with estates or run a multi-continental country.Does EU5 feel as massive on micromanagement as reading it about feels?
>duhhhh... what you want?
>>725137349You can automate the game to the point that the game plays itself and all you do is click events and move your army and navy.
do they give you a different way to get claims later on? I'm tired of losing 7 stab at every parliament
>>725132585> is it so much to ask for a good complete game with no dlc ever addedAs a guy who played Paradox Games pre-CK2 during their launches, they were considered good at the time but are utterly barebone compared to current ones.People want so much flavour. HoI4 Vanilla is decent enough WW2 game, but no, fans want Belgium focus trees and espionage systems.
Is DLSS worth enabling? I have a 3070 playing on 1440p, never really used it before
>>725137549Harass with insults and spy network actions. Fabricate claims or just piss them off enough for them to become the aggressor.
>>725137653no, no card that supports dlss will benefit from using it because this game is cpu limited
>>725135457The desert Jews brought your animal worshiping illiterate ancestors to their knees lol.
>>725137549This got me thinking. If you keep your research, you could get the Holy War CB research and switch your religion to some minor pagan one then you could wage war as you ser fit.
>>725135406> What was wrong with 1444?Since nearly all major states starts in some internal crisis (Castilian Civil War, War of Roses, East European interregnums, Timurid collapse etc.) and most of early game on those is dealing with them, there's just too little time with mechanics until Colonization/Reformation/Getting the economy going etc.
>>725134850Anon, him talking about Sorbs and Lusitania ought to be a dead giveaway this can't be a jeet.
How is the game with Ryzen 5 7600x? Playable?
>>725138013that would nuke your pop satisfaction though
>>725138013you lose religion/culture specific tech if you change it, because devs hate fun and modifier hunting.
How do I win at the market game /v/? I'm losing so many ducats just by existing.
>>725138387That is true>>725138446Of course they do...
>>725137412My nigga Zivaizvinodababa lookin down, what did you do?
>>725137412Tyler the Creator lookin' ass
>>725138539>see what goods is expensive in own market or other market>produce that good if your country has good access to it or import that resource for cheap somewhere else>sell that produced or imported resource into expensive marketMultiple markets is a headache, its much easier to just focus on a single market. For general income, get your crown power as high as possible. If your crown power is 20%, you only get 0.2 ducat out of 1.0 ducat from trade as an example.
I am happy to inform that since the last thread the population of Nurnberg is still equal to one whole peasant.
18th century > 12th century > 17th century > 19th century > 16th century > 14th century > 13th century > 11th century >15th century18th century was just so kino>Kick off the century with the War of the Spanish Succession coinciding with The Great Northern War>Most notable pirates in history are from this century (Blackbeard, Jack Rackham, etc)>7 years war (WW0)>Piecemeal conquest of India by a fucking company>American Revolutionary War>Science is just starting to get interesting>Incredible famous setpiece battles like Blenheim, Culloden, Lexington & Concord, and Yorktown>War of Austrian Succession>Some of the greatest generals of all time, like Marlborough, Eugene of Savoy, Frederick II, Joseph Radetzky (though he didn't really do much until the turn of the 19th century), Napoleon (ditto), Suvorov, and etc>Highest concentration of interesting rulers of any century. George Washington, George III, Queen Anne, Louis XIV, Peter the Great, Frederick the Great, Catherine the Great, Maria Theresa, Robert Walpole, Lord North, Pitt Elder/Younger, Francis II, Napoleon, Carolus Rex, Cosimo III Medici, Maria the Mad, and Robespierre were all from the same century.>Best era of philosophy in Western history, brought low by the filthy Frankoids and Germoids like Rousseau and Hegel. Still gave us Burke, the greatest philosopher since Aristotle.>Best century for music excepting the 19th century. Mozart, Beethoven, Handel, Bach, Vivaldi, and Haydn are all at their height in the 18th century.
>>725138982I tried to strip a privilege to decrease decentralization, but my peasants absolutely loathe me and cut my levvies by 80%.
It's clear that a lot of the new mechanics were made not because they are realistic or benefit the game, but because they dramatically slow down expansion and drag the game out into a slow slog.
I'm not sure I fully understand the market systemSo anything you produce is instantly sent to the markets, right? So you lower the price of that commodity and then you buy it from the market, shared by different nations, when you need it for stuff like making buildings and all of thatIs there no way to stockpile your own resources except food? By putting goods on the market you could be indirectly helping a rival nation and that's what I find weird
Is it better than Imperator? I still fucking love Imperator and no Paradox comes close for me to beating it.
>>725139119>population growth 1.1%yeah, that's gonna take a while, especially since the guy only has sheep to breed with
>>725139119must be some very important dude, with a whole town to himself
>>725139230I mean, if they looked at people saying that the game (in EUIV) is always over by ~1650 or even earlier, and that they never play the last 100-150 years, maybe they figured that they'd make the start painfully fucking slow that people would still wanna play at the end when things speed up. Because apparently things do greatly speed up later in the game.
>>725139374
>>725139516Imperator is good bro
>>725134850America is the special case here, everyone else does the currency symbol after the value.
>>725139157Its a good century, I'll give you that, but French revolution and 19th century kind of overshadow it.Now the second half of 17th century is absolute dogshit for most part.
Just pirate it, it's not worth buying
Alright I lost my first game. The nation, that was stronger right from the start, that I accidentally declared as my rival in the beginning, just decided to wage war and fuck me
>>725139339are there no diplomatic options like embargo, or something like that?
>>725139339>Is there no way to stockpile your own resources except food?There is a stockpile, if you go into production tab and then goods you will see it,its a bar at the side of the item icon, I assume if you build warehouse it will increase the amount you can stockpile, I dont know if you can set a minimum that you want to stock before it sells to the market tho.
>>725130834it will remain a mystery
>>725127234Actually challenging therefore goodI've done nothing but play Brandenburg
>>725139964Haven't used it but there is, he could try that
>>725134397>at the equilibrium price set by Jeff Bezos, Archon of Trade.
Any nation that is tiny enough to be a challenge yet malleable enough to be like a build your own nation? Or do I have to wait for mods to give us shattered empires
>>725127234What are the fun things you can aspire to do here anons?Ive always seen EU games as "blob city". In CK you could role play just whoring and killing your way without needing to secure a blob; my satisfaction came from making "Dynasty of Many Crowns" just watching my seed be dicks to each other many centuries on. Or In Vicky, especially 3, I could enjoy just being an Amish state with industry banned fueling my utopia with foreign ventures and hiding under GB's dress like a bitch. HoI4, well, I really only play MP and shit, with all the cancerous meta, but its like a completely separate type of enjoyment for meIm sitting here looking at the HRE, thinking my goal is just to unite it, then I have to ask myself, then what? Is it just WC again? i already did the meme ryukyu and one faith runs in 4. What the hell else can I get up to here outside of conquest?Also before anyone asks:>stellariskek not until they unfuck 4.0
>>725139764It begins and ends with a bang. Absolutely kino century. Late 17th century isn't bad, you just have to look outside of Europe. That's when the most kino American vs Indian wars take place. English Civil War also wraps into the 2nd half of the century. Other things of note:>Highland Clearances>Glorious Revolution>Cromwell + trial of Charles II>King Philip's War>Puebloan War>Great Turkish War>Conquest of Siberia>Russia vs China>Jacobite Risings
mfw trying to win the game as Georgia.
>>725127234GOTY
this is going to take a while
>>725138446Modifier stacking was the cancer that killed EU4.
>>725141016We'll try stabilise yourself firstThere's so many antiblob mechanics it's unreal
>>725141631guess I'll try thatI'll do the whole "revoke privilegia thing" and see how the game goes
>>725137830Calm down bar Kokhba don't wanna lose another war
>>725134509really happy about this actually. Its like MEIOU without all the menu jank. building roads is FUN
what will EU5 MEIOU and Taxes be like
>>725127293Kys eu4troon >>725128251Kys eu4troon >>725128506Kys eu4troon >>725128827Kys eu4troon Reminder the only "people" seething about glorious EU5 are>Brown>ESL>Trannies>Eu4 manababbiesOr some combo therein. This is the white man's genre. Get fucked faggots, chuds won
conquered my first bunch of provinces and after a year or so, while still working on integrating them, they suddenly switched back to their old owner without any notification or anything.
>>725131827Tranny post
>>725142290>EU5 good because it's more like VictoriaJust play Victoria, fuck all of this trade shit
>>725134363Troon post
>>725139230Eu4 mana troon post
>>725139839Eu4troon post
>>725141614>unorthodox optional strategies 90% of players will never know or care to attempt killed a gamehow much is johan paying you to post shit like this
>>725142265Nothing because they hired the meiou fags to make the base game, which explains why it's a convoluted mess that runs like shit
>>725139119>>725139398GIWTWM
>>725139157*19th>>725139182peasants are the easiest to strip from unless you're like dismarthen or whatever peasant republic
>>725144676Bad map
why does a game that is just a map run like such shit?
>>725144384perhaps it's time to get a job and a new rig, my third worlder nigger friend.>>725141150wow look at you, phone poster mate, how funny you are with the forced hindijeet meme hehe
where can you check whether someone got excommunicated?
How the fuck does troop transport work? I landed 7k guys in Tangier just fine but then when I select them to go back to Spain they just fucking stand around and get wiped.
Why hasn't anyone tried making a real competitor to the Paradox formula?
>>725130997>Brought all the great mechanics from IV into V and expanded on themBut there's no mana>Mana badNo, tying tech to mana is bad
>>725150012Reminder this tranny is brown btw
Is there any way to see if the Burghers are trying to construct roads and where? And if it's possible to just invest in them like you do capitalist factories in Vicky 2?
green aragon
>>725135457>European paganism is superiorOnly if you like murdering and raping children.
>>725150341>Kingdom of AragonWho the fuck writes this shit?
>Paradox game>on releasesort yourself out
>>725150519>>725150341>Kingdom of AragornWTF tolkeinbros
EUV lore is fucking shit, that mess in central Europe is just not plausible
>>725131669>you could swing any way.zesty
>>725134205Only an idiot thinks he is smart and calls other idiots.
>>725131648What are you talking about? I just close the game through task manager so it doesn't mess up my achievemen runs. Paradox can eat my dick
>Bohemia is part of the Western Europe subcontinent>Poland isn'tkek
>>725151086>NOOOO I HAVE TO HAVE ONLY POSITIVE "YOU WIN" EVENTS!!!Haha meteor go brr
>>725139157>>15th centuryWhat?>Still gave us Burke, the greatest philosopher since Aristotle.Oh you're mentally deficient, gotcha
>>72513915718th century is kino for you because you're a bong and it's the first time England gets a bit of relevance since the end of the1000 years war. >English philosophers kek
Too many fucking provinces, I don't wanna micro like 500 provinces and their buildings
>>725153516Good thing you can automate
>>725153615Oh, I didn't know
I didn’t realised you need to upgrade rural villages to town manually, and you can only build hospitals in town and above.
Retard here, how do I build boats? I was trying as Iceland to build some boats but I couldn't get the needed building even after 100 years.
>>725153860Did you upgrade the rural village near the shore to town?You can only build ship related (except fishing village) on a town.
>tfw no modern Paradox game that only takes place during the Napoleonic Wars and with heavy emphasis on combat, army composition and supply because March of the Eagles floppedI'm tired of starting a new Napoleon Total War campaign for the 100th time bros
>>725154454March of the Eagles II is next.
>>725127234like ck3, good baseline to work but feels empty and repetitive right now.
>>725127234How do they get away with remaking the same game so many times?
>>725156661Retard.
>>725127234Conclusion, I dont care unless its free focus trees for HoI4, Stellaris 2 coming out or CK2 getting a performance update that doesnt break its mods.
>>725154454Honestly EU5 is good enough that I could give a 1789 start date a go even if it's from a mod
>>725154454This nigga wants march of the eagles
>>725139339>So anything you produce is instantly sent to the markets, right?no way niggaif you arent making a deal you get nothing
Me? I'm watching Clio play Venice
>Play game 100 years so you end up in the same position where you begin in EU4BRAVO JOHAN BRAVO
The country building mechanics from vichy makes a russia game so much fun. Planning out roads and cities along the silk road and siberia, really kino stuff.
>>725157839Play better then nigga
>>725157839How does the Golden Horde still exist
>embargoed's what the fuck is this language dude
>>725158049>Bandwagoners can't help exposing themselves
>>725158097They often refuse to collapseI've seen timelapses of it around in late 1700, and thriving
>>725141217>form country (tierIII)>actually, you still tier II>you must now spend money to upgrade to tier III manuallyI hate this.
>>725154454you can have all of them minus napoleonic setting if you just play hoi4
It's what Victoria 3 should have been.
>>725158097Don't even know if they're supposed to disintegrate. Aside from 1 succession war 10 years from start, they still hold strongI can't declare independence for 40-60 more years when I get a bigger army/eco, their cavalry is certified bullshit
I want a mod that allows your country to get technology vastly ahead of it's current level. Like cars or full auto guns or some shit. It would a one time thing and once they broke they would be gone but imagine your army fully equipped with M16s rolling up on a bunch of cavlary or your ruler showing up to another country in a Ford F150 or some shit.
what units do I build?it seems that you buy horses (armored) if you have money to burn and want the strongest army possible and you buy footmen if you want to spend the minimum, is this about it?
My vassals have a 6000 stack and they won't move. How the fuck can I unstick them? They're all over 60% loyal.
>>725158232Yeah but ww2 sucks.
Have Paradox fixed yet the fact that their thousands of DLCs to work together, no matter what combination of them you own, have to be simplistic and just don't allow for proper big changes?
>>725158659holy ESL
>>725158427They disintegrated out of nowhere in my game. One moment i making spy network to start making my independence CB, and in other, it's just gone.Also:>Byzantine ruled by Ortodox Turk>Ottomans ruled by Ortodox Turk>both of them look psysiognomically european
>>725158687;_;
I imagine myself in Europe, leading my Platoon. Our mission is to stop wh*Te dogs from advancing. We mow down wh*Te dogs but they keep coming. I shoot wh*Te dogs but I run out of ammo so I draw my sword and begin slaughtering wh*Tes, since wh*Tes are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn't fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. wh*Tes were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to sky and I see KARA BOĞA (Tengri) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in africa, my homeland. My BLACK brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven..
epic reference bro
>>725158532Shut up, Turtledove.
>>725135756Gnosticism > Jewish Christianity > Arianism > any Pauline slop > Judaism in any formt. Knower of truth
>>725158843I sincerely hope they disintegrate in my campaign.5K mounted mongols (and 15K levies) will shatter anything I throw at them
How is stability right now? If there's crashes all the time, I'd rather wait a month for them to finish patching
>>725160032My mid range laptop haven’t crash yet.
>>725160032Had 0 crashes.
>>725160032Nation for this feel?
>>725160384Muslim refugee pov
>>725132975He said that in Israel not Rome lol
>>725160384Sorry, gweilo. Blonde cunny is reserved for the Qing dynasty
>>725160704Average Brandenburg Girl
>>725151429If only we lived in more enlightened times.
Supposedly Brandenburg has a tough time or something, what's with that?
>>725162468uvhhhhhh it's sovlful thour country gets nuked with events that replace your ruler or something all i know is my 4 ducats at the start from the game income turns to negative real fast
>AI literally does nothingebin
>>725163549Try playing as Portugal and see how Castile will do nothing.
Are Royal Marriages bugged? I'm the Ottomans and can't find anyone to royal marry, and it won't let me marry a noble either for some reason that shows up as code.
>>725163896I'm also confused about it, maybe you really have to improve relations with other countries
>>725163896I have 4 daughters and only the one below 20yo can get married, but when I tried arranging a marriage for my heir all women were free game. Curious.
>>725163896Every woman get snatched as soon she turns 16. You are lucky if you can find 1 or 2 for your heir even while playing as powerful catholic country in Europe with good relations. So Osman scum has even less chances probably.
>>725163896At start of game depending on your religion and culture it's very hard to make royal marriage, or even marry noble. Deeper in game this problem is dissapear, thankfully, as dynasties grow.
>change subject military stance>nothing happens thanks paradox
>start game >instantly at war it's so fucking over
What's the difference between this and CK3 other than the time period?
this game brings a 9070xt to its knees the game is paused and nothing is going on but I get 40 fps just moving the map
>>725158659I think you will find the attachment file and import charges a fee of course a few minutes to get the latest flash player is required
>>725165806>call bohemia to war>win easily>big land grabs>no money>truce is about to run outI'm fucked
>>725166316Point is, 10 years ago everyone was complaining about the DLCs not just because of them as a monetization strategy. Needing so many different DLCs to work together, no matter whichever combination of them you have bought, has caused them to be too small and simple. It is hard to introduce meaningful big new mechanics and changes in a DLC, when it has to work with everything else. And obviously as part of their monetization strategy, they don't want to give new, exciting mechanical changes as free updates.Has there been any fix of that?
>>725165876You can't do eugenics to give your children autismEvery other mechanic is more in-depth The UI is more convoluted
>go siege enemy capital >detach siege food consumption>instantly run out of food anyway>everyone dies yeah I have no fucking clue how this works
I wish I knew what shit like +200 max clergy in province actually translates to, like what kinda impact is that ultimately gonna have and what kinda timeframe of peasants promoting to clergy am I even looking at to actually benefit from this
>"Rise of the Turk" situation ends in 1400>Mfw I haven't even conquered half of Anatolia and most of the western are is weak as fuckSo how much do I have to wait to unlock shit that goves me proximity and control?
How do you expel a certain minority from your country
>>725127234can you chat with other rulers in freeform text?I want to coordinate with war allies like "i'll siege the forts, you attack their armies"
>>725169215AI isn't that advanced yet no matter how much companies shill it, certainly not low budget video game AI
>play as brandenburg>conquer some shit, humiliate a rival >build some buildings during peace time>piss off my nobles so I get a civil war>win the civil war>legitimately have no idea what to do I got mindfucked by mission trees, WTF do I do, just blob? how do I even make my economy better during peace time if I'm barely making money
>>725130427>Niether is the TrinityWhat the fuck? Who do you think Jesus is talking to himself when he says "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me", or do you think that Jesus was just some dude?>Sola FidaAre you sure? Are you gonna do some works that are worth an eternity of Hell? Are you going "I don't need your filthy handouts, I'm a real man" to the Lord? >Sola ScripturaIf you put something else above the word of God, then you just made a new God.
>>725169551Invest into high cost RGO or build buildings that will process your cheap raw goods into expensive consumables.Furniture should be profitable since you should have plenty lumber RGO.If you have wool make fine cloth.As for your goal check what are the requirements to form Prussia and slowly conquer that land.
>>725135008>Julious Ceaser calming down his angry legions is not diplomacy okay
I am not having fun.
>>725169734is the tl;dr to get money>open burger tab>see highest profit building>make more of itor>open burger tab>see highest profit building>check what goods it needs to produce more of that>make more of that rgoand>squeeze out profit in capital>build road to nearest town and repeat
>>725142290This. White men keep winning with EUV.
>>725135638>I don't like X>but X is old, you must feel silly right now Name one time where this line of reasoning wasn't retarded.
>>725142290T R V K E
>>725142290Most based post in this entire board
>>725133582>Is the black death just supposed to teach you the importance of pops?It's an introduction of future disasters and mass famines you can get, and teaches you about the importance of social mobility>No Hint will save us now.This game oozes in SOVL
>>725127234How much?!
>>725135756This is bait because Calvinism is the most kino prot-heresy there is.
>>725127234clunky afill have to relearn everything again
>>725127234Watched a video of the game and the soundtrack was awesome. Is that typical for this series?
>>725172723>This game oozes in SOVLMore like reddit humor.
>>725142290The majority of EU's fanbase were always ESLs from Europe, you stupid mutt.
Do I bother trying to play if my cpu is a 5600x?
Game is fun but they need to fire the UI guys.How can you mess so up so bad that you don't include the religion in the info panel when you click on a foreign country?
>>725165876CK3 is an RPG pretending to be a strategy game.EU5 is a strategy game with a side of spreadsheets.
Paradox has signaled that the next game after EU5 is gonna be HoI5. Makes me wonder if they’ll keep it a visual novel simulator or go maximum complexity like EU5.
>>725150448You have a very twisted view on history
>>725174941They won't add pops because then they'd have to do holocaust simulator.
Any good guides for trading?
>>725159189Jesus Christ be praised, Henry's come to see us!
I can't make moneyI can't increase control
>>725160032No crashes or bugs in just over 15 hours
>>725176336Prepare your anus.
Haven't tried it yet, looks complex as hell, basically a mix of EU4, VIC3 and CK3, which in long term is good but seems daunting to get into.Only mappainting autists play this game, so the fact that it sits at 3.5 stars on Steam makes me think there's something wrong with it. #1 complaint I see on leddit and steam reviews is that the AI is completely braindead and cannot handle the complexity of the game, never attacking as it collapses under the micromanagement of the economy.
>>725176658Somehow I felt more overwhelmed in VIC3 than EU5, most basic stuff is more or less intuitive. And yeah, AI can basically suicide it's own country.
>>725174607It's been like this since IR and it's only got worse with every new gameI don't know if I'm blind or stupid but I can't see anywhere on the army panel where it says what army the one you're looking at is attached to and the "attach to army" button doesn't give you a choice either, it's straight bizarre this has made it to release like this
>>725176658The rating can also just be because of performance. There were anons who tried playing the game with old ass hardware, one even had a 2GB GPU, and then they are complaining that it's not optimized
Every game these fucks release the UI's just gets worse and worse
>>725174941Hoi4 was the original vic 3 so expect hoi5 to be even more brain dead to play
>>725131002would you rather>be just another bishop in the empire, subservient to the Emperor and Patriarch in Constantinople>be the leading figure of Christianity, above even the Emperorconsidering the Frankish and Byz power levels at the time were akin to the USA and Russia today, it's a no-brainer.
>>725131002Don't forget that crusaders fucked them up before that too
>>725135325only in the non-white parts of Europe where they still use zwots, forints and leis.in actual Europe the correct notation is €100 or £100.
>>725174607this. and who a country is at war with should be at the top of their relations list with a red background.
>>725151004...no?
>>725135756Baptist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protestantism >>> Mormonism > Eastern Orthodoxy > Calvinism > Catholicism
>>725145652
Bro the soundtrack is so fucking good. Best paradox one by far.https://youtu.be/AXhjbHIM2-U
>>725168017If you feel you can end siege before your army die, a bit starvation is ok.
>>725128680>be second line Hohenzollern>want to make a power grab inside the HRE>let's support some wacko break christianity apart to further our goals>WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?G*rmans are retarded
>make vassals>force them to accept your culture>wait for them to assimilate enough pops into your culture>diplo-annex them/seize they territory bit by bit (you get free cores)Vassal maxxing is pretty strong, huh.
>>725150448>murdering and raping children.but enough about the desert folk
Complexity is not depth. People say that this game is somehow a return to form for Paradox and that it resembles their older releases, but that couldn't be further from truth. It's nothing like Victoria II or Europa Universalis III. This is just an official version of MEIOU, complete with bad performance and insanely bloated game mechanics.The UI sucks. It's one giant clusterfuck, nothing is where you'd expect it to be. It's somehow worse than UI in Paradox games from two decades ago, full of nested screens, and the information you're looking for is never easy to find.The gameplay pacing is horrendous. People like to talk about how it's necessary to build up your country in EU V before you can do anything as if that's a good thing. It might have been a good thing if the game ran fast and I could breeze through the first few decades, but that's just not the case. The reason internal management works in Victoria II is because the game is short. Having to stop to do things like build factories and set national foci acts as a welcome break from warfare. Not so much in EU V. Thing change very, very slowly in this game. Want to change your national values? Go ahead, play for 100 years (1 month takes a full minute) and MAYBE you'll manage to do it. Passive value modifiers make this a way bigger hassle than it needs to be. EU III handled this better just by allowing you to move in a certain direction every couple of years and also decide through events.Playing Victoria II modded I always enjoyed seeing "railroaded" events and situations take place and what kind of outcome would play out. It made the game interesting, it made the game world feel alive and I had fun watching the divergences from real-world history. The people behind New Nations Mod really did some amazing work on the game. They made it complete. The forks of NNM is why it's still fun to play today.
Maybe I'm retarded but I refunded the game because it ran like shit on my old toaster (I know) and I assumed I just didn't have the specs but is that just because it defaults to the 3d map view? Does it run way better on the 2d view?
>>725182969Depth is depth. EU5 has plenty of that. Of course, you don't know where things are, you haven't played the game long enough. >muh vicy2 Trying too hard.
>>725182969No such thing exists for EU IV. The railroading only works about 30-50 years in. You'll never see the rise of AI Prussia in most playthroughs. If PLC forms, they will never get partitioned. If Manchu forms Qing, they will be content with just Manchuria and Northern China and will not attempt to conquer all of it like they did historically. Mughal Empire NEVER forms or conquers anything in India.EU V is even worse. With even less railroading, it's the never-ending 1337. In EU IV hordes started divided, without feudalism and with tech group that got increasingly worse as the game went on, so they almost always got conquered by Russia. In EU V Golden Horde will still exist in 1800s simply because of how strong they are at the beginning. EU V doesn't have "emergent behavior." It barely has any behavior at all. The AI pretends to play the game by stagnating forever. If it conquers anything, it creates awful bordergore. This game is about spending an insane amount of time just to get bored.For a game to have "depth," there's needs to be challenge in completing a complex task. This game has no challenge. The complexity just exists for the sake of it. The player countries will always be managed better and do better than their AI counterparts, even if someone barely knows how to play the game. Yes, that's also the case in most other Paradox titles. The difference is that those titles are easier to learn and provide better challenge at the same time because they're simpler. The AI can cope with game mechanics better because they're simpler so they provide a better challenge to the player. There's a reason why barely anyone plays MEIOU and why 3.00 failed. This game will share its fate.
>>725168017>>725182501What you're supposed to do is to have armies on non-fort provinces inside a province so that they forage and bring food to your main army. The army that forages needs to have around the same size as the besieging army, or at least that's how it works at the beginning of the game.
I have played EU4 for thousands of hours.Should I start EU5 with the tutorial, or is it a waste of time and it's better to figure things out yourself during the game?
>>725186435You'll be lost either way, but you'll be slightly less lost with the tutorial.
>>725186435Waste of time.It's better to watch some youtube videos where they discuss the basics like market, production, control and early game expansion.
If I automate the market, does it only do the most profitable trades? Seems like it favors those instead of the products my buildings need to produce. But is it really a good idea to just neglect them like this? I mean if they can't produce they can't earn money. I get less taxes and, I don't know won't they starve or something?
DX12 or vulcan?
>>725161272kek, nice
>>725150448>murdering and raping children.But enough about abrahamic religions.
>>725165876Victoria, EU, CK & HoI should be a single game.
FIFA/Madden for autists
Is playing EU4 M&T a good way to ease yourself into any new mechanics EU5 has?I plan to buy EU5 later down the line.
>>725188863If I remember correctly, some people from mod are responsible for V anyway.The mod will most likely murder your CPU
>>725188863I'd bet M&T has way more content than EU5 at this point
>>725189036I'm asking because I've already played it a bit and while I do like managing the estates, the bureaucracy reforms and the more stiff stab/legitimacy/autonomy/unrest do provide a good challenge, I don't really get the micromanaging taxes and trade part, I also have problems with properly gaining development from pops.The only siginificant lags I've encountered were January and Febraury each year for recalculations, still plays fine, though.
>>725128616where to even begin lol
>>725189036from what i have seen it's my gpu that is struggling with the game, my 5800x3d fairs pretty well desu.
>>725129332>protestants are all going to hellextraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
>>725127234I played for hours yesterday and only reached like 1383
Playing as Holland, got through the black death yesterday and yeah I lost almost half my population but my income stayed positive
1492 should really be added as a start date at some point in the future
how long until someone makes a mod that makes the map texture not look so low res?
>>725188863not at all. eu5 is MEIOU without all the jank. In the mod, practically every added mechanic has to be managed through a massive convoluted menu in the decisions tab. Eu5 does the concept much better.
>>725192114At this point M&T UI is fine, you can interact with the vast majority of stuff in the mod without opening the decision menu
>>725190578Nobody used that starting date in EU4.Why would they use it here?
Give me an OPM that lets me learn the game from the ground-up.
>>725194613Closest thing is Holland.OPM won't let you learn the game.Try as France that has a vasal swarm for protection and a rich core area to focus on.
>>725194721Yes the will.I hate it when a country starts with half a dozen preconstructed buildings.
>>725176658>35+ years to coreEU3 bros we're so back
Is there a way of to gain new countries without war? Like if I play an economic nation can't I just buy them?
>>725131002byzantines were the cause of their own destruction, the Pope had nothing to do with it. Read some history books instead of some xitter incel thread.
>>725194887The meta thing is to wither release it as a fiefdom and then annex it or make their culture accepted.
>>725178153There hasn't been an Emperor since the fall Byzantium then. If Caesaropapism is real then Christianity is a false religion, no wonder orthocucks have to come up with headcannon ecclesiologies because they know their historical one condemns them.
>jewtubers already playing on very hard AI difficulty since the normal AI is too passive and boring for streamlollmao
>>725127234After 10hrs I just feel like playing EU3 instead.Also, what the fuck is wrong with the land movement?Often I can just move to one nearby county, but it seems completely random where I can move. The ai can go anywhere it wants all the time.
>>725195556That's the zone of control of a castle, boomerbro...
>>725194887Blobbretards in shambles!
>>725195674Cool, so why can the ai walk past my castles and zones completely unhindered?Also seems to only work one way?I often go into a siege county, but then can't go back the way I came because of "zone"
>>725195823Unless you post a webm or something else as an example I can't tell.The castle zone of control filtered many people who complained but once they posted their experience it was just another case of not understanding the mechanic.
Any tips for playing a weak nation in a bad spot?
>>725156729I hate this word because it means slow. Therefore, I'm reading the word slow get spammed which feels like a command to become retarded. Your shitwords suck.
>>725127234>personal unions are a noob trap that will pull you into +100 years of expansion stopgap>conquering territory outside your own culture group is a slogfest if you want it to be profitable(sometimes even within your own culture group, as in its easier to hold german territories as Denmark than it is to hold Norwegian or Swedish ones)>annexing vassals takes longer the longer you get into the game due to cultural difference creep, which means you should do most of your conquering in the early game, as its easier to do there>trade and economy in the game is a total UI/UX catastrophe and makes no sense at all>Estates AI is retarded and constantly implodes its own economy which is tied to your economy and outside of your control, which makes your economy constantly fluctuateoverall, there is potential here, but it feels like it was designed with inherent anti-fun in mind, luckily, you can automate everything and simply have the AI commit to total chaos and then just simply sit there and laugh as all manner of shit happens that is utterly unexplainable>play Denmark>Estonia rebels>suddenly I uexplainably have Livonian Order transferred as a vassal to me giving me +6 vassals and enough power to steamroll swedenOR>play England>enter war with France>someone else occupies Paris>this gives me 100% warscore for some reason>I can carve up France less than 1 year into the warJust dont go into Unions (Claim Throne) or have any vassals after 1500 (unless its a longterm March)
Only lost less than a third of my population, not too bad
>>725194448Nobody used it in EU4 because 1444 is close enough. 1337 is more than 100 years earlier.
>>725127234more paradox slop
Remember when people complained that it's too easy to get money in EU4 and that they have more ducats than they know what to do with in later stages of a playthrough and that it makes the game too easy? Remember how the devs (with DDRJake as the director at the time) drastically reduced the income from everything in hopes of making the game harder? Remember how it had the literal opposite effect and instead made the game easier because the unforgiving economy hurt the AI much more than the players? Remember how it took about a dozen more patches to fix it? The same exact scenario is playing out with EU5. The AI is too incompetent to play the game. Except now they don't have an easy scapegoat anymore and Johan himself would have to take all of the blame, so Paracuck shills have been working into overdrive.
where were you when EU4chads were vindicated?
>>725127234Paraslop games are just Fifa for chuds, same shit each time, same predatory DLC policy each time yet they lap it up.
>>725196337>oh no I can't easily paint the map my colorMany such retards every time a paradox game is released
Does anyone know what triggers the unification of Brandenburg and Teutonic order?
>>725197326Still not as bad as actual FIFA because it doesn't have literal gacha mechanics. But yeah, pirate and/or creampie it all the way if you want to play.
>>725197095I'm still waiting
>>725197393Except I can. I just feel lonely when other countries don't paint with me.
>>725195002To answer myself, yes you can
>>725197514cope
>>725195987Nta but I had same experience. Border forts on chockepoint counties don’t stop enemy armies from marching through themWhen tou siege enemy castle you can’t get out of its zone of control even though you walked to it just fine, happened to me many times. I only noticed that mountain counties block movement in the winter only 20 hours in, but that’s not what stopping my armies from leaving the siege.
the core of this game seems really good tbf but the ai really needs to be tweaked so there can be a realistic progression of the game world.
>>725196354Same here bro
How do i play the game?
Oh fug...
its a launch paradox title its exactly what i expected it to beitll keep getting better for a few years with patches and dlcs, will peak after a few years and then theyll cashgrab slop dlc push making it worse and worse until eu6the cycle of nature
>>725198597oh fug the fuggers took on my fuggin loan :DDd
>>725198493Watch an at minimum 2 hour YouTube tutorial then flounder around in game for another 10
>>725197441IRL Teutonic Order got a Hohenzollern as its Grand Master. Said Albrecht Hohenzollern also happened to be the nephew of the Polish king, which might be why he was allowed to become his vassal in the first place. Poland could have easily annexed the remainder of Prussia instead. Albrecht Hohenzollern dismantled the Teutonic state (the Teutonic Order itself continues to exist even today) and converted it into a secular hereditary duchy with Lutheranism as its state religion. It became the first protestant state in the world. The Elector of Brandenburg happened to inherit it at some point through dynastic connections. The duchy of Prussia was still technically a fiefdom of the Polish king, but it was easy for the Electors of Brandenburg to undermine and later fully shake off their subject status as Dukes of Prussia. Prussia only became important for Hohenzollerns because it lay outside of HRE, which let them convince the emperor to let them crown themselves kings while still TECHNICALLY keeping Bohemia as the only kingdom inside the Holy Roman Empire.In EU5 you can just form Prussia by being Germanic and holding certain provinces.
>>725198607>itll keep getting better for a few years with patches and dlcsJust like CK3 and Vic3, right?
>>725198828Both games that massively improved since launch (especially V3), so yes.
>>725127234It's good so far, my computer is a bit garbage though (it runs like late game EU4 desu).
>>725182969>1 month takes a full minuteBuy a new computer ranjeet. It takes less than 10 seconds.
>>725198761 According to tinto talks there is an event that can trigger after 1500. Sounds like I need to use the support heir mechanic to trigger the event. I think.
What do I do with artists? Do they do anything passively or do they only exist to commission art from them? In which case, is there a point to having multiple artists?
I've heard that EU5 takes a shit load of mechanics from Imperator. Note this is Imperator after it was fixed.
How was the game on Beta for 6 months and doesnt have zero guide how to play the game
Who thought the Black Death was a good idea?Maybe I'm missing something, but it just seems like complete dogshit from the perspective of GAMEPLAY and >FUN. It doesn't seem like there's any real way to mitigate it, which sure is realistic, but just feels like shit as a game. Having half of your fucking pops die every save after the first 10 years just feels like shit every time. Even if you know it's coming, it doesn't make it any less fun to get flooded with shit popups and having half of your economy evaporate with no counterplay.What's the point, really? Why not start the game after it? It's not interesting. It's a major world event that's interesting as a concept but gameplay-wise it's just an uninteractive disaster.
>building missing imputs or pops with needs>click to check>select market to import from>every market in the universe has 0.00 of every good available for exportAm I missing something? What am I supposed to be doing with these shortages then?
what i'm supposed to do?
>>725183101The game honestly just feels like streamerbait, as insane as that sounds. It's obnoxiously complex so little timmy will always be clueless, and they'll keep watching youtubers play the game for them, and thus never mind all these problems because they aren't the ones who have to deal with them. The game will stay intricate and mystifying and the streamer will look so much smarter for seemingly having figured it out for them.
>>725199954the review is already 73% and dropping so paradox will start to pander lil timmies and make the game playable
>>725200087It was ~67 on launch, so unless they fuck up hard (they will) its probably staying there for a while
>>725199954I already dislike 99% of EU5 videos i watched. None of them answered any of my questions or the actual direction for this game.
Does this game allow you to enslave Africa?
>>725199714black death can be a blessing in disguise for overpopulated countries in the beginning of the game without good infrastructure built yet.
>>725199934You have to watch some hours of YouTube tutorials first
Defeated one coalition and immediately got annex CB from event. It can't be helped...
>>725200889or just play the game and passively learn it like a normal iq person
>>725200889where do i start?
>>725200981ulm
>>725200889Where do you think those youtube people learned how to play the game, zoom zoom? Bonus points if you realize that half of them have no idea what they are doing.
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>>725201259Based
EUV needs to be more autistic. I want more character mechanics and to tie my nation to my characterAlso I should be able to purge all males of a ethnicity whilst keeping the females
>>725201259I don't see anything false
>>725201259>ukranian genocideidk russia seems pretty laid back and not that aggressive to me, they're mostly just skirmishing with ukrainian armed combatants and trying to win a war of attrition.if it was a true genocide then they would have leveled every city by now and murdered every civilian in their path to achieve their war goal.
Historically why can't I march my armies across anothers land to help my neighbour on the other side of them
>>725201583>5% Goods Produced, Can recruit Females (PICK THIS PLEASE!)
>>725201494>>725201591>>725201802He's having a melty
too badParadox jews were one of the few producing for MacOSguess i won't be gaming much the next years
I'm not sure how my Leader's wife became the Queen of Bulgaria, making my son the heir to both Wallachia and Bulgaria.I mean, my ruler's wife was just a random Georgian princess, how can I find out how this happened?
>>725201971Bet 20$ this guy isn't even Ukrainian.
>>725201971now i feel like going in their just to bait him into sperging even more
>>725202157>>725202168This set him off
>>725201971I get the war is bad but calling it a genocide is more of a farce than all the holobunga myths about masterbation machines and Indian Jones esque spike rooms combined. The Russians have already shown they can strike Ukrainian population centers as far out as the western edge of the country with effective impunity and yet they are no just glassing every city
>>725202305just checked his profile and mr lambert is a save scummer hahaover 10k hours and not a single hour in iron man mode
>>725202305>His Steam profile is set to Finland.Knew it. Also this nigger has a Youtube with 30k subs lmao. What's he doing sperging out in some random steam workshop page.
>>725202148Why is my wife so stronk?
>>725201259Thank you for reminding me to install that mod.
>>725202462ofc he ishes russian
>>725201971>funnyFunny when people start their posts like that, even though they are obviously seething and not having a laugh at all. Does that mean I'm seething too?
>no GroBgermaniums ARYAN space marines?>no buysimple as
>>725202657guess again
>>725151004Do you know who Terry was?He might have been an autistic spastic but he was an actual genius
>>725130950Based, fence sitters get the rope.
>>725127234More paradox dollhouse sloppa.
>>725134397This might be one of the best schizo criticisms of the game I have seen yet. Fucking kek.
>>725200087>>725200160>muh reviewsIt's mostly chinks and russians getting butthurt as always.
>>725201259>>725201971>>725202305this is who he was screeching at by the way, suspiciously cut out of the screenshotshttps://steamcommunity.com/id/fallen_d
>>725203454it was cut because one person is a Paradox affiliated youtuber with 30k subs and the other guy was a literal who
>>725203446Russians mad because the English version spells it kyiv China probably mad because China isn't the strongest nation in game
>>725203537oh I'm sure
>>725202992>he/him
>>725201882You can in EUV even if they won't nicely let you. Click the "Violate Sovereignty" button, get some antagonism and just walk through. Might be limited to Great Powers, didn't notice it until I became one last night.
>>725178087>Hoi4 was the original vic 3Nah that was EU4. They might shy away from making HoI like HoI3 still but at this point I'm willing to believe Paradox will do anything.
>>725203587But it was still the Kievan Rus (or the remains of it) at this point in history? Or have people been trying to rewrite history on the spelling even that far back now?
am I supposed to do something about it? honestly I don't get whole production and trade part
>>725182969>>725183101Fair points, some of which I've seen echoed elsewhere, but this release is like catnip for obnoxious forever online autists who treat suffering through poor pacing and ill handled layers of complexity like its some sign of virtue. I think it has potential honestly, but they made a few critical (and completely avoidable) mistakes; much of what I've seen M&T ragged on for in the past is now present here in full force. Instead of thinking that EUV didn't need to become the literal second coming of M&T and its generally disliked 3.0, they went full steam ahead and naturally are suffering some backlash. The top of it all is the forever 1337 (poor start date made all the worse by a long campaign and glacial geopolitical development) and lack of effective engagement with the features by an AI that would be more at home with EUIV's complexity. Remains to be seen if they pull it all together with updates over time (or perhaps the modders get to it), but waiting months to years to see if the game truly 'gets good' is unfortunately just part of the paradox experience. As is, its shaping up to be more of an econ sandbox simulator with a half present AI dragged out over an extreme period of time more than what I'd expect of an EU game.
>>725204017When did i express any sort of opinion on the matter
>>725204054nigga build some RGOs
>>725204054Me neither. I just turned on automation for trading and build buildings where it says it will make the most gold
>>725204054It will sort itself out as the market stabilizes but you could invest in to producing the base goods that those buildings need like clay. However that means that those raw goods now go to the same market and just get bought by neighboring economies. So don't worry about it and just build Scriptoriums.
>>725204054Watch a tutorial nigga>I jumped into paradox's most complicated game to date blind, why do I not know what the fucks going on?
>>725204396maybe they should have put "watch youtubers" on the steam page before fleecing newcomers out of 60 burgers
>>725199954>little timmies engaging with something that looks complex from a safe distance of viewing a streamer >they assume its great just for being complex but primarily enjoy it as viewers if they ever even play it at allMany such cases when it comes to strategy games these days. And then they'll stake their life on defending the product from every minor criticism while it lingers in their steam library gathering digital dust.
>>725204483It says that on the home screen
>>725204396can you link the guide
>>725199714>Who thought the Black Death was a good idea?Yeah, the whole start point is kind of a weird choice to start with, having one of the big unavoidable openers be a 'get fucked' event is curious. I feel the current start would have just been better as a future content release that would have sold itself on allowing the player to experience 'the highs of the HYW and the lows of the Black Death'. But the Meiou&T guys, who I hear worked on this, love the 1300s start date so it was probably inevitable we would get saddled with it.
where can I subsidize buildings? it's telling me I can but there's no button anywhere
>>725204898here bro
>>725205161tysm, time to make some cannons
>>725134205>a genius admires simplicity>cut to Victoria 2 screen that 90% of players should never touch until they've played the game for 100+ hoursI love Vic2 but it's a complicated game. Very few people (even among those with hundreds of hours) actually know how systems like consciousness, political parties, pop promotion, spheres of influence, etc. work. And the people who do understand advanced stuff all had to learn it from second hand sources or checking in game files/running experiments themselves, because the game does a piss poor job of giving you that information. Eu5 at least makes everything readily apparent. I watched some youtube videos going up to the release because I was undecided about buying it so I didn't go in completely blind, but just by going off of popups, banners, tooltips, etc. you can figure out almost everything and the game makes it very clear what affects what.
How do I make my culture stronger than the filthy D*nes?
Man Japan is fucking boring. An island nation that can only build 7 boats so you need to rely on mercs to get anywhere. Also they're ultra rich and got no threat around at all. I miss the sengoku jidai thunderdome start in eu4. I had more fun playing in bumfuck Philippines
>>725127234ck3 clears
>>725205654Make (or steal) artworks.rush renaissance by building libraries and moving more people into your capital.
>>725205910ck3 is too cartoony for me, and it's not the art-style. it's the general tone and feel of the game.
I can vote on golden bull but have no idea wtf this will do. Should I do it?
>>725205634>the game makes it very clear what affects whatWell then tell that to all of the people saying that it feels needlessly complicated and poorly presented, because that is the opposite of what I've been seeing in the general commentary. Personally, I think Vic/M&T economy management is just a misfire for a game of this nature with its naturally intended audience. Given the fairly fast paced and objective oriented imperial conquest and colonial focus of the prior game, this is hardly the kind of group that seeks out the 'sit and watch a spreadsheet for several in game centuries' formula, so it is all the more lost on them to start with.
>>725128629Call it hrr if you want to be cool.
>>725205845>I miss the sengoku jidai thunderdome start in eu4Yeah, if only they started the game in the 1400s like its predecessor and left the 1300s as an alternative to be released in the future.
there are a kajillion ways that the game feels half bakedi swear pdx could erase 90% of the hate if they just released early access instead of pretending that their games are anywhere near done on launch
omg
>>725207891KEKRMAOOOOO
>>725207712>i swear pdx could erase 90% of the hate if they just released early access>instead of pretending that their games are anywhere near done on launchkek, that's true, they could get away with anything if they just started outright saying it was early access release.
>>725207712actually picrel isnt overtly a bug the difference is >when a union partner declares offensive war, other partners instajoin>when a union partner declares offensive war, other partners auto called to arms>when a union partner declares offensive war, other partners can be manually called to armsbut what a fucking stupid way to write it
Does this game do the retrded WEWUZzing shit with subsaharan africans and mesoamericans keeping up in tech with europe like EU4?
>>725208428Mesoamericans don't keep up in tech with Europe in EU4. They cannot embrace institutions without reforming their religions, which is too difficult to AI to do.
Roads seem to barely do anything. Are there any better ways of increasing control?
