Dragon ball sparking zero had many problems but daima dlc killed any momentum the game had. Will the devs go original Budokai Tenkaichi triology way and use Sparking zero as a base to make sequels or will we be stuck with sparking zero for a long time. Furthermore according to the dragon ball mainline games release window of being 2 years apart rule, we're supposed to get a game in late 2026. What will it be? Discuss.
wow they made vegeta ssj3 look worse than fanarts
Daima? more like boring piece of shit.
>>725176823>>725177197Daima literally is the definition of charisma vaccum.
Why didn't they just wish Porunga to undo Gohma's wish?
>>725176390It's been confirmed we're getting more DLC content, but I think it's doubtful the game has a lifespan like Xenoverse and FighterZ. Former has a very good live-service format, and the latter has an enduring competitive scene. Meanwhile there's tons of evidence that, aside from the roster, Sparking Zero failed to accomplish most of what it set out to do.>character customization>multiple campaigns>what-if creatorIt's all half-baked, and everyone was talking about it. So not the kind of image I see them wanting to hold onto for long.
>>725177693Xenoverse 2 gonna celebrate 10 years anniversary soon.
Sweats killed Sparking Zero, it was a game for goofing off and casuals
>>725178804Definitely gotta give the game it's flowers. It's the best, even if I don't play it and find SZ more fun. >>725178845Being unfinished and objectively broken killed it. It was a let-down for both the competitive and casual community.
>>725179268Also just Daima dlc really halted it's momemtum. If they could've realesed OG db, GT and other super characters instead of daima, they could've had a chance. But now that it's already a year old, I don't think the games gonna get back it's momentum.
>>725179709>GTAll of the characters people want and remember from GT are already in. Anything more would have killed it more than Daima did.
>>725176390The stages. the lack of stages is also a big problem.
>>725180027Nope. There's still super 17 and the shadow dragons. Even if Gt was not the priority giving more OG characters and super characters would've salvaged this game a bit.
>>725180040Glacier stage was fun. There was a stage in Budokai 2 where you could cause an avalanche.
>>725180027>Gloryhole is better than Super 17Lmao. kys pedo
>>725177197Agreed.
>>725177321Toriyama was working on this while he was literally dying. Although i hate daima, I can understand the reason why there's too many plot holes.
>>725176823Please understand animating hair is lost technology, easier to make it a solid block that stands up
>>725180845Bandaibros...
>>725180027People really over estimate the popularity and relevance of GT.
I fucking hate how sparking zero turned out. But the absolute state of sparking MIDro has taight me one thing. Xenoverse was the natural evolution of the tenkaichi series. Xenoverse 3 gonna blow the back of sparking shitro.
>>725180040What were they thinking? Releasing the game with fewer maps than tenkaichi 3. No wonder it died.
>>725176390Unless the DLC news we get in January is amazing, the game is fucked. Like another anon said, this game was supposed to have a lot of character customization, there are slots on all the characters for this stuff but basically none of them are being used. The custom battle creator thing is actually really interesting, but it's hampered by a nightmarish text selection method. Holy shit just let me write the text but disable uploads if I do or something.Anyway, the content we expected never really came. We were supposed to have the Daima DLC out of the way early in the summer but they stretched it out for most of 2025, and now the next DLC news is all the way in January. Hopefully they're taking all this time to sort out a proper delivery method, where we will finally get characters and customizations and content on a regular basis.
>>725184003I'm not buying anything from them anymore. Got scammed with the preorder ultimate edition and been salty ever since. I'm not going to tell them "sure it was okay for you to scam me if you make a good DLC without fixing any of the gamebreaking bugs the game has 2 years after the release".
>>725176390God Daima is so bad I hate Dragon Ball babies someone should have stopped Toriyama from ruining his legacy >>725177197This
>>725176390No one wants Daima, real fans want more Super, animated Moro and Granolah arcs, playable Moro and Granolah.And more Caulifla (queen of /dbs/) in the future.
>>725178804God just fucking let it die already good Lord. I was active on xeno one and the first 5 years of xeno 2 I finally quit when I saw I had 2,000 hours in a year around when the tournament of power dlc released and never looked back. Last time I booted up the game a few years ago everything felt strange like coming back to the outside world after being in jail shit was scary turned it off
>>725180027I wanted all the stupid GT shit as well as obscure nobodies from dragon ball and characters like chi chi etc I love that about Budokai 2 and 3
>>725184003Ngl in the next dlc we need at least 12 characters.
>>725184680>>725184740>>725184910BASED ASED
>>725184826Interesting. What're your thoughts about DBZ kakarot
>>725185272It felt like a dragon ball theme park ride. If you had the super dlc you had to avoid it for most of the game or you would end up at end game power instantly. I think it is like comfort food in game form I finished the base game, but didn't bother with the later dlc they came out with think it was trunks and kid Goku messed with the weird card game mode a little even though I don't really get why it was there. I had more fun with sparking zero despite being disappointed by it I did all the challenges and alt history and then I was done with it. No dragon ball game has really got me obsessed since xenoverse though and I swore off that ages ago. I love bandai slop games I was number one in the world at shinobi striker at one time and had periods of being around the top 100 in xenoverse. There was a save edit glitch for awhile where you could use raid boss moves on your cAc and that was funny the fucking seethe you would get was unmatched probably one of the last times I had fun trolling in a video game
>>725185149Best we can do is 3 Goku's 2 Vegeta's and super hero variants of Trunks Goten and Pan broken up into 4 twenty dollar dlc packs We will also be selling pudding cup Beerus costume as a preorder bonus for preordering the dlc
>>725186038Lmao the Futanari dude would definitely shill that.
>>725176390I don't want to play with any of those characters. What are they thinking?
>>725177693They need to add more than just new characters. Even new stages are going to fall flat.Also, they should have let players create REAL custom stories like the one in Smackdown vs Raw 2010/2011. That would have easily added more replay value, and I'm forever mad at them for having taken the pussy route with custom dialogues.
>>725186319Exactly. Daima fucking sucks and it killed Sparking zero.
>>725180027my nigga Nuova Shenron deserved better
Uh, hello? Kino department?https://youtu.be/_qNmE0xQgfI?si=YMleTcXwfqzMInBx
>>725187207At this point they should make a new game using the assets of Sparking zero and release it in 2028.
I liked Daima. The subbed episodes came out on Hulu weekly so it was the first time my wife kept up with a new weekly db show. It was solid and a fun ride. Wish the Tamagami were playable. I think the only probably with S!0 was the player base. The devs didn’t do anything wrong, the game was exactly what it was supposed to be. It came out swinging with a huge roster and flashy presentation, invoked feelings of nostalgia and got supported for a straight year. There’s really nothing more they could have done to make zoomies like it besides, I don’t know, adding an actual battle pass or a team multiplayer mode or something and the game just didn’t need those things. There’s plenty they can improve on of course… characters, stages, more in depth story modes, but that all is for S!0-2 and beyond.
>>725190234IDK about zoomies cause I'm 35 but the game didn't have enough of the capsules, enough what ifs or enough just stupid joke characters. it was also missing popular characters from the older titles
>>725190828I didn’t use capsules or play online too much. I agree with the other things like I mentioned before, but you have to consider they didn’t even have mid-fight transformations in the first Budokai, that wasn’t added until Budokai 2. Beam struggles, destructible environments, character switching, the custom capsule system, all those things came later, even as far as Tenkaichi 2 or 3. A lot of what people see as “series staples” now weren’t there at the start. Sparking! Zero is laying the groundwork, just like those early games did. By the time we’re at Sparking! Zero 3 or whatever comes next, those features everyone’s worried about missing will almost definitely be in place.I miss Arale tho
>>725190828I am 27 and agree with you the other anon just sounds like Capcom explaining why they canceled mega man legends lol
>>725191673the capsules in the older games were useful in single player though. they unlocked new moves or new mechanics or made characters redic OP which was fine in single player. they worried too much about online play when its a super casual game. give us dumb OP moves and joke shit
>>725184740>real fans want more Super, animated Moro and Granolah arcsNo we don't. Toyopaco's fanfiction is the worst piece of DB media ever created. The fucking Toei movies have more logic than whatever the fuck Toyoloco wrote for those 2 arcs.
>>725191985Zoomies please stand aside until the adults are done talking thanks
>>725176390>4 Vegeta's
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>>725180027We get it, GT chafed your ass and you're still mad about it, get over it already.
>>725178845Having played this game a lot, no. It was all the exploits making gameplay ass and then the subsequent patches also making the game worse when they fixed the issues but in different ways. Casuals will always complain about something and fuck off after a couple weeks from release when they realize that it wasn't motion controls gatekeeping them from real fighting games, and they got their asses beat constantly even in a Mickey Mouse arena fighter like SZ.
>>725192393kek
>>725192210Thanks Unc glad someone still thinks I am a kid
>>725176390what momentum? the game REALLY lacked any form of single player content
>>725184740>real fans>superlmao
>>725192393Saar...
>>725192210Pedo, stop talking with young people. He was only 27 years old, you monster. What's wrong with you?
>>725180027Missing reps>Super 17>NouvaPotential newcomers>Adult Gotenks + transformations>Goten (GT + transformations)>Trunks (GT + transformations)>Gohan (GT + transformations)>Vegeta (GT, + transformations, also allows him to use SSJ4 instead of making that Vegeta standalone)>Possessed Bra>Ledgic>Rildo>Myuu>Sigma Force>The entirety of the Evil Dragons>Mutchi>Luud>Gale>Sheila They got plenty to pull from, and you not knowing about them or caring about them isn't an argument.
>>725192937They're more real than daipafags. Get rekt Gloryhole sissy.
Quick. Discuss about your predictions and wishes for Xenoverse.
>>725176823>>725180845Toriyama has always done unique Super Saiyajin hair. The only reason SSJ3 always looked the same in games is because Toriyama did two designs where the hair somewhat looked similar, when in reality, it was just following design trends.Goku has messy hair, so his comes down in thick swathes, with a bang still dangling in front of his eyes.Trunks' influence on Gotenks means that Gotenks' SSJ3 is more cleanly flowing, and he also lacks a bang due to that, instead just having the widow's peak.Vegeta, everytime he has transformed, just had his hair stand up more. The SSJ3 used in the games was quite literally just bigger Gotenks hair because the games were just inventing the form.
>>725177321>>725180773The Namek Dragon Balls were used to make the world forget about what Boo did. Daima takes place only shortly after that event.
>>725184740>real fans want more Super, Please no.>animated Moro and Granolah arcs, playable Moro and Granolah.Granolah is honest to God the worst arc ever written in Dragon Ball, and Moro isn't too far behind with how meaningless the majority of it is in the face of the final third. But Granolah takes the cake for bad writing.> “If the Cell arc had been created with the same sort of mindset as this Granolah arc was, it’d be more akin to Trunks shows up, says there’s gonna be this Cell Game in three years. They all show up to the ring, Goku starts fighting Cell and gets his heart disease, Piccolo fuses and fights and he fights Cell for a bit and then loses, and the whole thing would be that they’re at this ring and they fight for a year.”
>>725193313I really wanted Rildo. He's like the first big threat in GT and doesn't get enough love. Also his final form is really cool.
>King Piccolo still isn't in the game
Sparking Zero is such a strange game and I'm not sure who it's really for. We don't even have Super 17. Along with many other characters that we had in the original Budokai Tenkaichi games. I just think this game was a failed endeavor. It feels very lazy and cheap. I preferred Xenoverse 2, which is saying a lot because that game wasn't particularly great either.
>>725195246Your comment remind me of that dude who kept saying "Justice for Rildo" in 4chan or YouTube. It was hilarious.
>>725197028It spread too thin in almost every section that matters.>No OG db characters except for kid goku and the z gang> Only few Gt characters> Split screen co-op only limitedto the time chamber at launch> delaying the dlc> being forced to give priority to the charisma vaccum known as daima > Abysmal story mod> shit multiplayerThey'll have to make a sequel. This game is already dead.
>>725195246>doesn't get enough loveThe fact that he dies like a bitch and is immediately forgotten maybe has something to do with it. What a wasted villain
>>725197586Now how many other characters on the roster suffered that same fate but are playable? Your routine is getting stale.
>>725197214doc, what is this shit?! tryna wean me off, you fucking QUACK
If they do make a sequel to Sparking Zero, what would the ideal roster be?
>shitty game:I>shitty game based on anime:O
>>725198601> :|> :OWhen you know the wojak folder is growing more reddit, but you really can't convey an original thought.
>>725198489The only way a sequel happens is if they rework the combat and everything else not pertaining to the roster. That could be a good way to regain goodwill, but for those who invested in Sparking Zero 1, it'd feel like a waste if they paid for all that DLC only for it to come out the box with the sequel. Never mind all the DLC that game would have.
>>725176390It being half baked ended up killing it. Plus the DLC being Shallot (who cares) and Daima (flop) just killed it even faster. Then you've got the main game which is lazily animated and the what if scenarios being pretty lacklustre.
Did they fix the save file corruption bug?
>>725193505lol
>>725184740Why have they never brought back radditz
>>725203154because I tough you at night, faggot
>>725203602What?
>>725197827The doc knows whats best for you sweetie.
>>725176390As long as we've got a model for Panchy.
>>725176390>Star Wars gets popular>Later sequels hurt itself from more direct input from Lucas>Dragonball gets popular>Later sequels hurt itself from more direct input from ToriyamaWhen his style degraded into chibi or stick figures, it clashed in Super and the movies already. He forgot how to draw in his older style and the newer characters weren't corrected into the cast like the alternate universe Saiyans, they were probably supposed to be like normal Saiyans but Toriyama's elderly funnies page style wasn't adapted properly.Now we got Daima in his death.
>>725204701Daima's better than anything Super ever did. The Broly movie would never have been so good if they let the exact same team made it.
>>725203842BECAUSE i TOUCH YOU AT NIGHT YOU DEAF FAGGOT NIGGER. RADDITZ ISN'T CUMMING BACK BECAUSE i KEEP RAPING YOU, HOMO
>>725176390>"SIX" CHARACTERS (Daima 2)>No Shallot transformations, the dude who literally has every saiyan transformation>No Tamagamis >No Arinsu>No SSJ3 Mini Goku>No Degesu>Fucking Pansy made in it before any of the above>Just one new stage added at long last>Advertised customization feature basically still doesn't exist>No story mode content for any of the DLCs>Stopped pushing out custom battle content after DLC 1In a nutshell.Modders can quickly enable TOP and Kame House stages for example even though the latter is unfinished. Many more stages that exist in-game can be turned on with a mod.
>>725205281>No TamagamisThis bothers me more than any of the others. They were basically the plot of Daima and got no reps.
>>725176390the game was already DoA
>>725198489Budokai tenkaichi 3 roster+>Support characters from the movies and ovas>Towa, mira, supreme kai of time, time patrol trunks.>the basic time patrol hero (the gohan looking guy with brown hair) from xenoverse 1 trailers> of course characters from Dragon ball super and the movies>characters from other toriyama works ( neko majon, dr. Slump, sand land etc.)>other missed characters from the series.
>>725201958Agreed. Well let's hope for the best for a possible sequel.
>>725204701Toriyama had guys like Torishima to correct his bas ideas. Newer shows didn't have such a figure. I wish Torishima will bully Toyotaro in the future.
>>725184740superspics deserve death
>>725184740Daipapedos deserve death
So this is how a /v/dbs/ thread die, huh? Not with a thundering applause but with a whimper and a load of shitposts.
something people don't talk about enough is how broken the ai is. these games would be godlike for casuals if it had functioning ai for ai vs ai battles and pve
>>725176390Dragonpedros get what they deserve.
>>725177197I never got what the draw of Daima was supposed to be. Seeing the characters get turned into kids? Seeing Vegeta get a transformation that's extremely out of date? Seeing Super Saiyan 4 again? What was I supposed to get sold on? Going into the Demon Realm sounded interesting, but none of what was paired with it really won me over enough for me to want to watch.
>>725212797The demon realm obviously.It was the one thing that was mentioned that had never really been explored.
>>725203154They don't want to infringe MasakoX's copyright
>>725184740>real fans want more Superunironically kill yourself you disgusting shiteater
>>725176390Daima DLC released on Xenoverse 2 though and that game recently got a new story DLC out afterwards and still have at least one more in the pipeline. That thing is a decade old!
>>725215187People here might not want to admit it, but there is a market for fans who want to self insert into their series. Xenoverse and it's CAC IS the dream dragonball game for quite a few of the fanbase.
>>725215187Yeah but Xenoverse has way more stuff than just Daima, that's the thingAlso for some reason Xenoverse will do original stuff once in a while
>>725214602Continual reminder that MasakoX literally just stole this concept from an existing fanfiction called Break Through The Limit, right down to the main ship being Raditz and Lunch.
>>725212797Daima is just another attempt to make GT trying to pretend somebody other than toriyama writing gag adventures would work, but it doesn't
>>725205281>>725205435>No TamagamisSeriously what were they thinking. They're like the only Daima character I would consider playing
>>725183895The stages they did make are also kind of odd.Its a 1v1 fighter, but they made some of the maps stupid huge to an unnecessary degree.
>>725176390modders seem to be getting carried away having fun with this like they are with Sonic Crossworlds so that's nice, I really just expected them to stay with the assumedly simpler and more fun BT3
