I've never seen a single example in these threads of pros cheating that cannot be immediately written off as
>audio is missing from the clip
>comms are missing from the clip
>earlier round information is missing from the clip
>players simply adjusting their aim on a low sens very flat game
>players just being lucky / unlucky
Antishilling is still shilling, keep licking those boots, bootlicker.

Cheating is so dumb, it ruins everyones fun, I don't get why would anyome do that

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>>725189670
Lucky for you, I don't play ranked to "climb", I just play for balanced games. Anyone who values their rank above having fun is a fag.

>>725189670
What's a 50% Wide Receiver? Does he play Cornerback as well?

>>725189670
I can't wait for your inevitable suicide. Just once in your life get it straight and get actual material to watch.

>retards who think everyone better than them is cheating

>>725190635
NTA, but that was pretty obvious. He was locking on people that were behind walls before moving away.

>>725190062
You are literally on a board that celebrates whenever games fail or people get fired and you can't comprehend how someone could enjoy ruining everyone's fun?

>>725190845
>play the same map 10000 times
>wall bang spots off audio
>retards think its cheating

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>>725190412

>>725190635
There's at minimum half a million gamers that bought a cronus zen, possibly way more. That's just one tool of many. So yeah, near the top it's almost exclusively cheaters.

>>725191165
Like I have told you for years: I said actual material you retarded nigger. That's a fucking webm on 4chan.

>>725189978
/thread

Who cares about cheating in video games?

>>725191403
he just posted it

>>725190845
this one doesn't look like cheating, i could do that

>>725189978
>it's another tranny from "the aim community"

>>725191873
I'm not a transexual nor did I make any comment on them, but thanks for confirming they live rent free in your head. Your lack of any meaningful retort has been duely noted.
You can commence the meltdown / tantrum now after bieng put in your place.

>>725190934
>blatantly wallhack
>muh map knowledge and audio!
>licks boot

>>725189670
This webm becomes even more obvious if you actually play cs and understand that there is LITERALLY NO REASON to aim at that wall on dust2 because you cant penetrate it.
And every pro player will aim where enemies are most likely come from, so near exit.
Yet his aim snaps at absolutely retarded place for no reason.
Heres my favorite example of cheating in pro scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BASEDHfF6ajwg
>flusha
>supposedly pro player
>the one thing you dont do in 1x1 is make random noise
>snaps to crate he cant penetrate
>SHOOTS!

>>725189978
Lets talk about dust part of webm
>audio is missing from the clip
Please explain what audio cues can you have to aim at non-penetrable wall
>comms are missing from the clip
Please explain what comms can you have to aim at non-penetrable wall
>earlier round information is missing from the clip
Please explain what info can you have to aim at non-penetrable wall
>players simply adjusting their aim on a low sens very flat game
What does it even mean
>players just being lucky / unlucky
No pro player in the world would aim at that spot, because he cant do shit there

>>725190845
this looks legit because he wallbanged choke points.
Can be easily achived if he had any comms/audio cues

>>725191165
This one is obvious cheating because he doesnt have UAV online and turns 180 to wallbang afk guy

>>725192978
This is actually legit move
Wallbanging makes enemy think you are controlling this exit, which in return makes him make wrong call to your teammate to use other exit.
Not cheating, literally outsmarted.

>>725192881
He adjusts his mouse so maximise his speed so he can drop off the box asap, then as he's falling off the box he uses air acceleration to give himself more distance from the brief fall similar to what you do when surfing.
Thanks for demonstrating you are completely clueless at the game.

fuck off shroud schizo

>>725192881
you've been raped once again, commence your tantrum

>>725192881
He stands up and is moving in that direction, he's not even shooting when he looks at the wall. You are retarded.

>>725189670
How do you explain him being good at games that have been out for a day?

>>725193240
>>725193374
Those are obvious as well. He couldn't NOT be wallhacking.

>>725193504
Yeah if you're shit at the game and a retard this might appear true to you yeah.

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>>725189670
Anon, i only play with friends. Playing PvP games online is a waste of time.
>gather with your buds at the attic
>get beers
>set up LAN
>everyone has brought their laptop
>play games from 20 years ago
>no cheaters
>all fun
I think that zoomers were done dirty since they have to deal with Asians online which are some of the biggest cheaters. We millenials had it good growing up in the 90's and early 2000s playing LAN and having zero cheaters in our games.

>>725193665
>snaps to heads behind obstructions
>people you wouldn't see without the replay highlights
I can see how you'd arrive at that conclusion if you're a cheater.

>>725189978
Low IQ 4retards, very simple.

>>725193730
see >>725189978
Then I command you to continue your tantrum.

>>725193795
Imagine lying on the internet and not feeling bad about it. But you're an eastern european cheater, so that's to be expected.

>>725193862
Good dog. I command you to continue you tantrum.

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>blatant video evidence of cheating
>"No, it's just this magical ability called game sense! The streamer I give all my money to would never cheat!"

oh great, another shroud schizo thread
let it go man, dude was never really that good and he's just a joke nowadays

>>725193953
STOP THROWING A TANTRUM, TANTRUM BOY TANTRUM TANTRUM TANTRUM TANTRUM

>>725193478
Private hack discord with day 0 aim bots (mostly insider devs)
>but muh tournament admins
The cheats are in the mice and keyboard. Undetectable trigger bots.

>>725191873
No such thing and some pros actually don't have spectacular aim

>>725192718
Thats not dust 2

>>725193953
>>725194034
I noticed when given an explanation you completely avoided responding here >>725193213
I accept your concession. I command you to continue having a meltdown over being raped.

Who really cares if people cheat? The irony is that cheaters are so pathetic. Like bro, if you're that bad at a game you need hacks, go for it bud. I have things outside of the game that enrich my life.

>>725190917
It's even more ironic that people like this are so pathetic irl, someplace like a game or 4chan, you can fake it. IRL, you get told to shut up or are just ignored.

>post the same clips that have been falsified over and over
>have a complete mental breakdown after being humiliated once again
>eventually try to have an argument because the threads not going your way (>>725192881)
>get completely raped to the point you abandon the thread in shame (>>725193213)
>try again 4-5 days later after the anxiety of being owned starts to wear off
antishill bootlickers absolutely destroyed once again

>>725189978
the first clip in the webm is probably the most blatant cheat webm you can get.
>locks onto the exact position of two separate heads
>this happens on walls you cant shoot through, so there's no conceivable benefit for aiming at them naturally, rather than aiming at the open space thats being revealed as he turns the corner.
>he relaxes his aim before he fully turns the corner, fucking over the point of actually focusing your aim
its like a skinwalker.
sure, it looks legitimate if you're not paying attention, but once you actually focus on the details the facade falls apart completely as everything's just ever so slightly off.

>>725189978
>Antishilling is still shilling, keep licking those boots, bootlicker

This is legitimately, one of the stupidest sentences I’ve ever read on this website.

>>725189978
It's just a lot of people who have never played Counter-Strike before, the hard truth is that since a lot of these maps are designed to have logical angles that you can clear without breaking your wrist, it looks like someone's crosshair lines up with where a player is located because out of the likely 7+ times this exact thing happens for a player in a game, there's a chance that one time they do clear that angle, someone would otherwise be there if it weren't for them being blocked by a wall or multiple walls.
People that say specifically Shroud was hacking are stupid anyways, Shroud was never a good player in actual tier 1 CS, just pugging. I don't even think he won a major and in fact it wasn't until he left that Cloud9 did win a major if that tells you anything.

>>725195580
He doesn't "lock" onto anyone. He's clearly making small adjustments with his mouse. CS is a very horizontal game with a low sensitivity. You're going to land someone through a wall especially when moving. This isn't suspicious to any non-retard, sorry.

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>>725196134
>This is legitimately, one of the stupidest sentences I’ve ever read on this website.
No shit you fucking retard, its clearly poking fun at retards crying about bootlicker shills.

>>725197005
uh uh sure.
and im the king of the moon.

>>725197120
>uh uh sure.
I accept your concession.

>exposing cheater thread on /v/
>Tranny defense force immediately shows up
Every fucking thread.

>>725197348
Nobody here is talking about transexuals nor did anyone make any comment on them, but thanks for confirming they live rent free in your head. Your lack of any meaningful retort has been duely noted.
You can commence the meltdown / tantrum now after bieng put in your place.

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>>725189670
>/v/ plays CSGO once
>Gets rekt
>EVERYONEISCHEATING!

You are actually a retard if you believe Shroud cheated. Not only did he do a terrible job cus he always shit the bed in comp, but when you have hundreds of hours of recordings with x-ray on you will see suspect things. It doesn't mean he cheated, jfc. Pic unrelated.

>>725190934
>>725191746
>>725192971
I don't know that map but the third kill looked sussy af. Is that a common wallbang spot?

>>725197458
Dialate.

>>725193718
It's insane how different lan party or even obscure dedicated server is vs the online experience. Take a sniper for example; even when the guy is absolute god all it takes is one pincer move to down him, he's also not 100% consistent so even moving slightly unusually is enough to throw his aim off for a shot or even two.

Meanwhile online almost in every single match you are lucky to get a handful of frames looking at the esport killing machine who can somehow solo your entire team while at the same time getting lost on the way to the camp spot. Ping of death for the modern audience.

As far as I'm concerned I'd put cheating % well into the double digits and it gets worse the further east you go.

>>725189670
100% passable flicks.

last cheat I used was Game Genie.

I was surprised to discover the esports "tournaments" allow personal peripherals and crap to be plugged in and even let people run software.

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>>725201073
Sir

>not writing your flick performance in notepad/word and studying the logs later
Do casuals really?

>>725202736
I thought you where supposed to spam cheaters?

i dont care cheating is not fun

>>725193953
cool it with the antisemetic remarks

>>725189670
>wh*tes will defend this

>>725193213
That does not explain the individual aiming through the wall right at an opponent...

>>725189670
Remember when shroud sperged out hard
https://youtu.be/ZpSrCSkP1Eo

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>>725193430
The point isn't that he's shooting when he looks at the wall, he's focusing on two enemies perfectly through the wall. That's clearly cheating. What the fuck is the problem with FPS games? I've seen some of the most retardedly blatant cheating and FPS dorks will defend them to the death. Are you all just humiliated by the thought of accusing someone of cheating just because you lost? Or is it that you all cheat and you're reflexively defending them because you feel guilty?

>>725203774
Shroud is jewish though

>>725189978
Shroud the Jewish cheater wrote this.

Why do these threads ALWAYS have someone insisting that shroud and everyone else posted aren't obviously cheating?

>>725197493
fuck that video is so hot

>>725189670
I would be convinced if this is all from the same match but compilation from different matches? You're just picking the parts that fits your narrative

>>725204461
Because there's still some people who aren't dogshit at video games on this board.

>>725191165
The AFK guy was giving him audio clues obviously, bootlicker

>>725193213
This got ignored because its incoherent schizobabble. Where's the box in the op clip retard?

>>725199797
Cheating is near 90% now I think.

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>>725189670
this is in a tournament.
this is casted. this is commentated.
what do the commentators say when that kind of "oops, haha, what a weird twitch reflex!" moment happens?

>>725204854
in t2 they joke about it, in t1 and especially LANs they ignore it like their life depends on it

>>725193374
>>725193504
>>725193730
You are actually a retard. I watched this live and everything about this is legit and 100% not wall hacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC7_ykh5dNk
>just use IOMMU, TPM, Windows 11, kernel lev- ACK

>>725205324
>perfectly follows the micro-movements of the person he doesn't know he's shooting at
lmao

>>725193374
>>725205694
He's spamming the wall in desperate frustration because the only way they could win is killing the last T, who just killed a teammate of his so he knows exactly where he is. You can't spam that wall on Cobblestone though.

AGAIN, If Shroud was walling, how and why did he miss the guy hiding in the fucking site in the first place? They all walked past him and the NIP player ran up and killed the planter. It lost them the round and subsequently swung the entire game to the point where they lost.

>>725204521
sauce?

>>725205946
no you dont understand that a common prefire spot

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>>725189670
>"Cheating is omnipresent in online games"
>"Here's the same ten suspicious clips I've been posting for the last decade, it's all I've been able to find despite top players streaming regularly and having replays available"
Don't you get bored of this shit, man? At least get some new material for people to discuss. This is bonafide autism and one of the easiest counters to your argument is the fact this is all a schizo can produce.

>>725203891
It literally does and you have no retort. I accept your concession.
>>725204015
I gave you an explanation and you have no retort. Repeating your demonstrably clueless interpretation of what happened doesn't invalidate my correct one.
>>725204690
>Where's the box in the op clip retard?
He's stood on it you fucking faggot. He literally air strafes off the box.

>>725204690
>Where's the box in the op clip retard?
Why are you arguing whose a cheater when you either didn't even finish the webm or don't know the most basic things about the map they're discussing?

cheaters dont exist in pro CS, and the ones that do get caught one hundred percent

>>725199629
Good dog. I command you to continue you tantrum after getting completely raped by me.

>>725206183
this is tournament footage - cheaters can't just do it all the time in brackets so it's rare.
You can't just record yourself and point at someone who killed you as a cheater, it just doesn't work. The cheaters themselves have to upload footage.

>>725189978
FPBP

>>725204854
...

>>725206508
>cheaters can't just do it all the time in brackets so it's rare
Rare enough that you have a handful of clips mostly from a dude who hasn't played in ages, and was never very good in tournaments, despite there being several tournaments every year.
>The cheaters themselves have to upload footage
That's my point. Top players stream themselves for hours a day. There's thousands upon thousands of hours of footage out there.

>>725206235
she's sooo lucky :3

For a parallel : Every olympics a bunch of cheaters get caught. Every. Olympic.
If you have basic deduction skills, this means the majority of them don't get caught, so the motivation to cheat is stronger than the incentives to stay clean.
Another example : my doc was passionate about cycling. Told me there was no such thing as a clean professional cyclist. It was all about how much they dosed.
I have no idea how you can go "NUHH HUH? CHEATING FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? WHO WUD DO DAT"

>>725189978
>Watch my own replay
>Immediately see myself 'lock on' to a dude behind a wall as I'm entering a site

>>725207023
xray was a mistake it completely mindbroke shitters.

Most top players in CS have VAC bans on record, and a majority of t2 is infested with radar cheaters and soft lockers but that all stops the moment they get signed to a good team

>>725207123
>Most top players in CS have VAC bans on record
Care to substantiate that with some stats or are you just going to have a tantrum because I asked you for evidence?

>>725206958
>this means the majority of them don't get caught
How exactly?
>Another example : my doc was passionate about cycling
Who gives a fuck what your doctor says? lmao, how is that an example?
>"NUHH HUH? CHEATING FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? WHO WUD DO DAT"
Whose saying that? They're saying the clips here aren't sufficient evidence to anybody who actually knows the game.

I could have been a pro but electronic interfettence was causing latency issues for me

>>725207317
Hey you're right, I'm wrong

>>725192978
>drop
0 trophy, 0 mvp, 0 hltv placement, 2 years on furia in tier2, now plays in brazilian tier3
>>725193240
>buster
3 trophies in 8 years, all 3 carried by yekindar and jame, 0 mvp, 0 hltv placement, clip was during c9 CIS rebuild, lasted a year, 0 results
>>725200285
>tenz
0 trophies in 3 years, 0 mvp, 0 hltv placement, was in c9 post colossus project which sucked cock, retired to valorant, won when the game was brand new by abusing top tier character, then became worst team in all of america, came back to win 2 trophies somehow in 2024, retired at 23
>>725202736
>broky
was top10 player and top5 awper from 2022 to 2024, now washed up and cant hit a shot to save his life.
This clip is hilarious because that's not even a good flick, like genuine faceit lv7 tier flick. Monesy and donk hits shots which are several hundred times harder than more impressive monthly. At this point cheaterschizo should post happy deagle ace.

Shroud is a dogshit nobody I could beat in a 1v1 on any game so accusing him of a cheating in the first place is laughable but let's go through his track record again.
>shroud
1 trophy in pro league (tier3 tourney)
0 mvp
0 hltv placement
0 major
7 times grouped in majors
3.5 years on cloud9
best highlight is killing 3 guys in the back with the broken 2016 cz then dying
In an american derby match (tier10000, a pug with my cats and dead grandpa would play better cs than filthy NA mutts)
kicked from c9 because he was garbage
team wins a major 6 months later and beat number1 superstar team Faze with top10 all time awper guardian, top10 all time rifler rain, top3 all time rifler niko, top1 all time IGL karrigan and top5 all time rifler olof
retires at 24 to stream pubg and tarkov

>Lance Armstrong
conspiracy theory, never doped
>all the russians on roids
fake news
>forsaken
literally never happened, but he was caught anyway so its not possible
get better material kid

>>725205714
to be fair this also happened to me because some cat fur ended under my mouse laser

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>>725207571
>top10 all time awper guardian, top10 all time rifler rain, top3 all time rifler niko, top1 all time IGL karrigan and top5 all time rifler olof

>>725202736
This is doable without cheats.

>>725207901
>This is doable without cheats.
Not for shitters on /v/.

>most clips in this thread are from shroud
i'm honestly surprised he hasn't been banned yet

>>725208147
banned from what?
from profesionnal cs he left 8 years ago because he sucked dick?
banned from a mickey mouse extraction shooter with no pro scene?
banned from pubg, a RNG based game?
banned from COD, a game with aim assist lmaoo?

>>725192978
The crosshair snaps a few centimeters above the target's head. Probably just luck.

>>725206794
The type of person to watch a streamer isn't the type of person to record the stream for the purpose of exposing frauds

kek these threads remind me of that webm of the actual retard freaking out at the shiny lights, retards here are the same way when they see a crosshair pass over a player in xray and are incapable of forming any other thought than "he's cheating!"

>>725208794
pass over =/= lock on and perfectly track for several seconds

>>725208953
show one example of this happening

>>725208794
Keep coping that you'll be a pro someday, thirdie teenager

>>725209151
op webm, first clip.

>>725206202
>I gave you an explanation and you have no retort. Repeating your demonstrably clueless interpretation of what happened doesn't invalidate my correct one.
Your explanation doesn't make sense, that's my retort. He zeroes in on two people, there's no reason for him to look at either one. It's what anyone with eyeballs would easily see

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>>725208472
>banned from what?
from twitch, duh

>>725209271
he's pre aiming close angles and at no point is there tracking for several seconds in that clip, try again

>>725209451
>from the site that's making a mint off him

>>725209510
if he was pre-aiming, he'd aim for the open space. not the wall.

aiming community coming together I see

>>725190845
why would that be cheating, he would be retarded if he did this on stream/record.
Also who the fuck cares about Valorant cheaters

>>725209596
that's exactly what pre aiming is, you set your crosshair up and strafe into the angle so that when you peek you don't have to move your crosshair at all, retard, try again

>>725204521
if you say this at least give us a hint

>>725209782
ok then, why did he stop pre-aiming before getting into the angle?

>>725209451
>thinking Twitch has TOS
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Twich host and actively promotes pornstars and terrorist apologists, for sure they'll ban a guy who cheated for fake ladder points.

>>725189670
>>725190845
>>725191165
>>725192437
>>725192978
>>725193240
>>725193374
>>725200285
>>725202736
Shroud made a fortune by deceiving his goyim audience. Is still making millions doing the same thing.
Millions of retards across the world are still trying hard on CS and Valorant lobbies. They all also got rekt by the Valve skin fiasco (shroud sold his most expensive skins days before the event, btw)

>>725197587
It's literally a doorway the enemy has to walk through and you can see on the radar his teammate saw the guy there.

>>725209875
what do you mean can you rephrase the question

>>725209872
Didn't somebody post the live clip before and point out you could hear the audience when he hovered over the dude?

>>725210301
that's an old school lan trick, kinda frowned upon today though

>>725203129
>Snaps to target behind a wall and smoke
Clear aimbot. Wallhack would be too obvious for a tournament.

>>725189670
I only cheat IRL, never in vidya.

>false-flagging with legitimate clips to muddy the waters

Yo cheaterschizo my friend could you update your library and include some donk and zywoo clips instead of posting 10 years old shroud clips?
I just wanna see some highlights dawg, your webm folder is boring as fuck.

>>725189670
>50% WR
Sounds like the system is working as intended.

>>725189670
Nigger

>>725211075
>someone took the time to make this
lmao

>>725204015
Im convinced anyone defending blatant cheating is either pretending to be retarded for (you)s or someone who is also cheating.

>>725211252
agreed, good thing there's 0 clips of blatant cheating itt

>>725211252
>or someone who is also cheating.
every time

>>725206305
So what's your take to Summit1g admitting that all the old pros used cheats?

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It’s just a fellow member of the AIM community.

>>725207571
there's no use in replying to these threads, it's either brain dead bots or bait

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You know its pretty funny how Shroud happens to be Jewish.

>>725189978
any non delusional gamer who knows what aimbot is will instantly see the blatant cheating happening when the cross hair literally magnetizes and sticks to enemy heads through walls.
you're a tranny.

>>725189670
First two guys he sees are coincidence. He was aiming at the corner while walking around it. The third guy wouldn't have happened if he actually was cheating. The wall hack shows the enemy clearly running out into the open and he doesn't aim at him until he jumps and is out in the open. He's just playing normally while always aiming at head level because he's good at the game.

>>725210103
Pros (tournament players and/or streamers) are all valve shills, they're complacent and allow cheaters unless they aren't part of the cabal like that one indian with notepad exe or something.
Who would know they have insider knowledge of the perfect moment to jump ship when steam abandons the skin trading market which they've profited from since their inception.

>>725211384
QED

>>725211493
Summit1g? You mean the same guy that died to a molotov while defusing and became a meme in the community? Is that your go-to man?

>>725211075
Looking at the smoke twice with the first one without the aimlock active has him overshoot the whole damn opening by a lot so there's definitely something going on there

>>725211075
Nigger what the fuck you have against Cloud9 in particular lmaooo they were good at cs for like 8 months half a decade ago.
Brother this team has crashed more rosters than any other cs team ever, they don't even have an active lineup anymore.

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>>725212220
Its because it's the easiest team to find cheat clips. Every single pro game at least one cheater on the team in 2025.

>>725189670
I'll never understand how a pathetic cheater like this can live with himself doing this shit. I don't cheat, and just the thought about cheating in online games makes me feel dirty as hell and could never do something like that. You really have to be subhuman to use cheats in online games.

>>725211493
a lot of them used them in hack vs hack lobbies for fun or as a way to learn enemy positions and timings because there weren't good tools for things like that, they weren't cheating in real matches

>>725212492
The subspecies that defend the cheaters are worse

>>725212387
>Its because it's the easiest team to find cheat clips
The team that has no roster?
The team that has failed 7 rosters including one that costed 1.5 millions to make?
If every current pro team has at least one cheaters post some spirit or vitality clips.

These threads are kind of a testament to how dogshit this board has gotten at video games. /v/ would get creamed and start crying that everybody was cheating in a modern day shazbowl.

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Cheating is fucking based

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>>725212595
>ok they all admitted to downloading and using cheats but they pinky promised they would never use them for real.

>>725212785
you have 0 understanding of the context or landscape back then so you think it's the same thing as cheaters in your mm game, quiet zoomer

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>>725189670
Pretty much every FPS streamer is using some type of softhacks, whether it's no recoil or wallhacks. I solo queued to Predator multiple times in Apex, and my aim wasn't as clean or crisp as even streamers that were hardstuck in Masters. There's definitely cheating going on in the streamerdom.

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>>725212649
do it yourself

>>725212717
>gives all his female characters a taint the length of a football field
Such a shame, his art is good outside of that terrible anatomy

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>>725212992
You nigger. You admitted they used to cheats to gain an advantage over people who don't use cheats to practice. It makes no difference whether they are cheating in a friendly lan game or not. They are getting access to information they otherwise would not have if they were playing fairly.

>>725213134
Autism

>>725212615
I believe a lot of people who defend him are most likely young kids who grew up watching him. He has become like a childhood hero for this kids. So naturally they don't want to accept the fact that the person they looked up to and thought was a great player turns out to be a pathetic cheater and a fraud.

>>725209451
Getting caught is against tos

>>725213159
"used cheats" is such a wide net and could suggest using them in competition, of course it matters how they used it. They're good enough to not have to rely on them and using cheats in a server with your friends to learn timings is harmless

>>725213050
nigga you're a fucking monkey dancing in a cage, screaming and throwing his poop all over the glass windows, this is what those bait threads are and no one takes your schizophrenia seriously, now entertain me you dirty ape.

>>725213154
The R-301 has one of the softest recoil patterns in the game, and I can still confidently say that level of recoil control is impossible. You don't even see that silky smooth control from actual pros competing at the big tourneys. Factor in the angle, the cover the other player has (only his head peeking), the distance, plus having to account for the bulletdrop in the game, and you have a pretty cut and dry example of cheating. I will admittedly say that I couldn't make that shot at all without using like a sniper or marksman rifle (sentinel, etc.).
The bow snap is just comedy.

>>725214002
I should clarify—the shot itself isn't impossible, it's taking those shots fully automatic without any recoil, like in Shroud's clip, isn't possible. You could obviously hit the guy from that angle, but it would have to be burst fire or single fire to avoid the recoil.

We've reached the point where people using "soft aimbot" think it's not cheating.

>>725210103
Yeah, the entire CS tournament scene is one giant scam really. It's kinda shocking how so many people are too stupid to notice something so obvious.

>>725213563
shut the fuck up shroud

>>725215116
No. Gamers don't cheat, politicians don't practice insider trading, corporations have never price gouged, casinos never have an edge over gamblers, advertisements aren't trying to sell you something, and everything is sunshine and rainbows.

>>725212387
fnatic is the easiest.
I can't believe that fucker flushes got away with it.

>>725210103
>(shroud sold his most expensive skins days before the event, btw)

proofs?

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>>725189670
How does tournament cheating even work? I was under the impression that these tournaments were on a stage where each player gets a computer provided to them by the tournament hosters. How could they even get cheats onto it without anyone knowing? Are they allowed to bring their own equipment?

my favorite thing has been watching rust streamers with perfect flicks and spray tracking switching to ARC and suddenly having absolute dogshit aim and tracking. that's the easiest way to tell who cheats really, follow them to a new game and watch their fundamentals fall off.

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are cheater apologists delusional or paid actors?
what would motivate someone to actually try to excuse blatant cheating that would get you kicked out of land and tournaments in the 2000s and late 90s, banned for life, and likely also best the shit out of (your teammates would help beat the fuck out of you for being a cheater)
what changed?
it would legit ruin your life if you cheated back then. you wouldn't have friends anymore. you wouldn't be able to come to a pc cafe anymore. your gamer life would be completely over. your non gamer life would take a huge hit too.
in slavlands in 2000s if you cheat in a pc lan club you're liable to get stabbed.
why is everyone allowed to be scum now? and people actually ACTUALLY try to defend this kind of behaviour?..

>>725216361
yes. nice and shit.
you can hide a cheat inside the cable, they're TINY.
people also cheated by logging into their account and downloading files from steam workshop, because modern games are more about the cosmetics and we can't have our sponsorship billboards play without their sponsor billboard guns.
fucking pathetic.

>>725189670
it became apparent to me when even on a game like EFT 50% or more raids have at least 1 hacker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek

>>725216361
Computers are provided. They can bring their own equipment. I think for Valorant tournaments though they actually do buy fresh copies of their stuff for them. Faceit has also flown out some online players accused of cheating to play at their offices under the same conditions and they pretty much always do just as well. The last guy people were even joking he was doing crazier shit at their offices than at home.

>>725216808
>hide them in cables
>allowing people to download shit before a tourny match
Damn, I remember hearing about those memory reading cards. Hiding that in a keyboard or something could work. It feels like a lot of this would be solved by just providing all hardware and not allowing them to bring any, and just preventing downloads. You could probably airgap the network even. But I guess if their tourny scene revolves around cheating then they wouldn't want that removed because it would be less interesting to watch?

>>725216712
No, it's players who put value in skill and have some level of innocent trust in humanity. My brother was always adamant that no one cheats and even after thousands of hours of tarkov he still believed that til the video came out.

A lot of people overestimate how petty most people are, and how effective anti-cheat systems are.

>>725190845
Guy is obviously jewish so of course he cheats.

>>725217003
That video is proof that people crying cheater are already convinced and will just believe anybody who tells them what they want to hear. Shows like a dozen clips, has to leave a comment apologizing for falsely accusing someone and using that as a reason to not show more, but it's apparently damning evidence that every raid is full of cheaters. I was genuinely disappointed watching this.

>>725217291
Did you want 100's of hours of unedited raids for you to review? Even in my own experience 2 of my friends turned out to be cheating in a tarkov group of 10 people.

>>725217121
the game itself is not even important.
its all about sponsors and merch.
you can't sell the super duper mouse 3000 that all the pros use, with all the smart features if the pros don't get to bring it with them.
same as with skins. its all for advertising.
gaming doesn't matter at all. its just a pretty backdrop for all the marketing for "gear" and virtual skins to buy.

>>725217153
one thing is giving benefit of the doubt when you don't know, other thing is ITS LITERALLY A VIDEO OF THEIR POV CHEATING, LOCKING ONTO PEOPLE THROUGH WALLS
how fucked do you have to be to excuse that?

>>725199797
>As far as I'm concerned I'd put cheating % well into the double digits
70% is my guess.

>>725217687
Their enjoyment of their favorite game depends on the perception of fairness. Without it their favorite game isn't fun anymore.

>>725216361
see >>725201201

>>725217459
>Did you want 100's of hours of unedited raids for you to review?
I wanted more than a handful of clips where he managed to falsely accuse someone even in the footage he was allowed to cherrypick. If he has so much footage then why not continue showing it while he's doing his talk show for over half the video? Wouldn't that really put the nail in the coffin?

>>725216361
people are permitted to bring their own items such as keyboards, mice, and headphones and due to all of those using USB plugs it's insanely easy to sneak downloaded programs or simple powershell commands that download the program for you in, even smash melee had an infamous cheater who used their controller to inject coded stat adjustments into the game to make pichu absurdly powerful

>>725217765
nothing is fucking fun.
everyone cheats.
every "sport" is filled with cheating and collusion.
everything is done for the sake of money.
fuck this world.

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>entire thread full of the niggas that accuse me of cheating whenever I play unranked
lmao
you fags just suck dick
remember that

>>725195580
>>725197120
He's preaiming his lineups for parts of the map, nothing about it is sketchy. First is a lineup for the right-side boxes and the second is holding for the connector. You're not the king of the moon, but you're a fucking retard. Crosshair placement is a big part of CS, and Shroud wasn't even good on LAN so trying to say he's cheating there is hilarious.

>>725218401
No one knows who you are random nobody.

>>725218223
same, i miss not knowing this

>>725218401
Shroud...

>>725218486
its better to see than to be blind

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How little do you have going for in your life that you start defending cheaters on 4chin? Are you this desperate for upvotes?

>>725218483
did i say they did, retard? you don't have to be a big streamer or a pro to get accused of cheating. it's pretty common to get accused outside of ranked modes if you're good at the genre.

>>725218737
bullshit, if you genuinely thought that no one cheated you would have so much fun with online games. If you were hideously ugly but blind it would not bother you.

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>>725218223
>3rd worlders can't even imagine a world where people play fairly.
>I MUST CHEAT even on something that doesn't matter to anyone like a video game
Sad! I wish I could get them all out of my country and my internet so they can cheat as much as they want without ever interacting with me.

LEAVE MY SURROGATE MILLIONAIRE BROTHER ALONE!
H-HE SAID MY NAME WHEN I GAVE HIM MY LUNCH MONEY YESTERDAY!!!

>>725209387
>Your explanation doesn't make sense, that's my retort.
Your complete inability to explain why speaks volumes anon. You have no counter-argument.

>>725190895
It's obvious because once the crosshair moves, it's pointed at a wall and not right next to it to shoot a player coming around it.

>>725193718
>everyone has brought their laptop
Dang, I remember hauling both my heavy as fuck gigantic computer and my screen all across town back in the days.
LAN with laptops must be so neat.

>>725217864
>trying to wallbang people with wh in a game where there is no bullet penetration
kek

>>725219747
There isn't a counter-argument because you never offered a sufficient explanation for the original complaint. The cursor hovers over and STOPS on two individuals that the player would have been incapable of seeing, signaling that he did indeed see them. Nothing about what you said --"he adjusts his mouse to maximize his speed so he can drop off the box asap,"-- even dimly responds to that simple observation. Not joking here, are you mentally challenged?

>>725192978
there's literally nothing suspicious in this clip.

>>725217459
people are just delusional about cheating because it undermines the validity of whatever they are playing, in a statistical sense people will totally believe and accept like a 5% cheater rate, but when you tell them hey that means theres a cheater in every other game they will just deny it as impossible

>>725220232
>The cursor hovers over and STOPS on two individuals that the player would have been incapable of seeing
Because he stands up and moves off of the box, then does a small airstrafe when he falls off of the box.
It's a rock-solid explanation you have no counter-argument for except to call me names.
I accept your concession.

>>725217864
I especially don't understand this one. You can literally see the dude through the giant gap even in this compressed to hell webm. And then going on about body language, someone please be sincere with me, I really can't tell if this is all bait or not. Do I just have too little faith in you guys to be in on the joke?

>>725220606
We are clearly discussing two separate clips anon. The one at the beginning of the webm does not have any box. We are discussing :01 to :14. I am genuinely beginning to believe you are a bot.

>shrood
probably cheated during his cs days, 100% cheats as a streamer
>flusha
100% cheated during his pro career

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>>725211971
>>725210103
>>725215116

>>725220934
>Lets talk about dust part of webm (>>725220934)
>He adjusts his mouse so maximise his speed so he can drop off the box asap (>>725193213)
Follow the thread anon, not once have I discussed Mirage. The mirage clip is even easier to discredit because it's on a single axis. He's making small adjustments while moving and CS is a low sens game.

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>>725219412
you'd have to be extremely delusional to not see it.

also if you were ugly and it wouldn't bother you in the way you put it to be, it would be the same as certain men whos entire mental collapses the moment they see a mirror or being referred to as men by others.
delusion and ignorance is never good.

when you can see things clearly, only then you can start working on actual self improvement, and happiness.
being ugly outwardly doesn't have to hurt not because youre blind to it, but because you shouldn't put much import on such a thing you can't change, and especially not put any import on opinions of others, because someone living according to opinions of others will have nothing but misery in their life.
ancient Greeks figured it out years ago, why can't you?

>>725211971
>meanwhile elige rocking default skins

i remember everytime i meet a cheater in garden warfare 2 i just pick an ice character and target them any chance i get, until they toggle status effect immunity
you are not safe from freeze into ZPG

>>725189670
xhe's just part of the aim community chud

>>725221779
>The mirage clip is even easier to discredit because it's on a single axis. He's making small adjustments while moving and CS is a low sens game.
He stops right over them after a quick jerk. There's no logical explanation for why he does that other than that he cheated

>>725221358
Shroud was never good. Why would he bother cheating to be extremely average at the game? Never even hit HLTV top 20.

apologists
you get that the crosshair literally locks onto the models, right?
if it was an accident flick, it wouldn't actually stay locked onto the model, you get that right?
you get that it works like that, because they need cheats that don't give you any visual indicator like ESP box and stuff, cause they're being spectated, right?
and when you press the aimlock button and your cursor suddenly stops, it gives you information that enemy is there, right?
its like the chess guy with the buttplug, except more obvious.

>>725221842
There's even a gentleman's agreement between pros to not use agent skins. Not very good shills...

>>725215116
>the entire CS tournament scene is one giant scam really
qrd?

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>play 1 cs match for the first time in a week
>2 of these guys in the enemy team
xd

>>725223801
read the thread?...

>>725223840
>almost half second time to damage is suspicious
wat

>>725217687
>LOCKING ONTO PEOPLE THROUGH WALLS
you think this is happening because your are ignorant

>>725223946
I'm guessing they assume ~250 to ~350 ms for normal reaction time which leaves at most 200 ms to flick and shoot the target which does seem fast.

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>>725215116
It wasn't like that when MLG tournaments were only held in person at centers in the days of yore. When you compete at an degree of competency in anything, you become quickly become well acquainted with the idea of game theory, even if you've never heard of it before. We all knew what was going to happen once MLG started moving online, there wasn't going to be any stopping the rampant cheating and it wouldn't be long before it was a prerequisite.

The scene died almost thirty years ago and that's the truth of it. Its wise to assume anyone not playing on a provided third party computer with third party peripherals is cheating by default.