18 years later. Was he right?
>>725315195This board is not ready for this conversation.
maybe it makes more sense in javanese
This is literally just nonsense, the only reason it felt memorable and deep to you as a 12 year old becasue it had a fucking title drop in it lol.
>>725315195My horizons are very limited and I don't enjoy my life at all
>>725315195This title drop says it all.Neku starts as a loner, he doesn't "get" others and likely doesn't interact with many different people.His world was for himself alone. It was the boundary he had set.He then finds himself in the predicament of the Reaper's Game. The catch is that he has to rely on a partner to survive. This is something that directly challenges his world's boundaries. After he goes through everything in the game, we see him in the credits by the end. He now is sharing joy with the people he met in his story. By opening up to them, he expanded his world past himself.The world ends with you. You decide how big that world is.
>>725315195Eh I know it's also a title drop in the OG, but at least him saying "it's a wonderful world" or something doesn't feel as forced. Wonder why they went with this title in English at all.
>you gotta reach out into the world>btw here is a colorful cast of driven, likable characters dead set on keeping you company and build a deep mutual understanding :^)
>>725315658Yeeeah it’s feel-good nonsense but whatever I like the game
>>725315597Probably to avoid potential legal disputes from the Louis Armstrong estate.
>>725315195Genuinely, yes. I love hearing about experiences from all sorts of different people. I love seeing different sorts of personalities and viewpoints interact and co-exist with one another.
>>725315195That's just objectively true, from our perspective the world is only what we perceive it to be because we aren't capable of seeing the "real" world in it's entirety. Nobody knows everything.
>>725315195Back then, maybenow, better not
>>725315195This is right, but most of /v/ wants to waste away in nostalgia and shit they've seen before because even the concept of broadening one's horizons has become associated with 'the enemy'.A simple reality is that if you just keep doing the same comfortable things, you'll inevitably feel time slipping away. Your brain compartmentalizes these things, the same way it autocompletes words before your eyes have even finished scanning them. Anyways, hope you enjoy the thread, which will inevitably be shutin retards complaining that people don't do all the work for them in making their own life interesting. I really don't get people who just go "Life sucks and nothing will change" or somesuch equivalent. If your life is so shit, just leave. You don't need to stay where you are (and if you think being homeless is a terrifying prospect, you're still mentally a child and lacking in lived experience).
>>725315195yes but joshua was demonstrably more correct to be cynical
>>725315195>it's your fault you're a whining loser >you, the main character got murdered and every time you fought to earn your second chance at life the game just says NOPE and takes one of your new friendsah yes a masterpiece
>>725316479Joshua is a different order of being. Your dog will never have to worry about doing taxes. Just because Joshua has the correct view for his station doesn't mean his mode of being applies to humans.
What is Sho's backstory and will we ever get a resolution to it?
>>725316703he was a whining loser before all that shit though
>>725315195>18 years later
>>725316478are you homeless
>twewy nearly two decades oldwew laddy
>>725315404>didnt get itbest to keep quiet, lest you show your retardation
>>725317573Yeah. If you haven't been homeless or drifting at one point in your life, then you've probably been coddled your whole life.It's not like it's that hard to be homeless, especially with today's tech. If you have a phone, you have basically everything you actually need to survive, you just need to bum around motels (or if you're ritzy enough, the back of your car).
it's your fault you don't have two chicks in hotpants wanting to be your friends bro
>>725317967You sound very secure in your masculinity
Why is Shoka such a snarky bitch??
>>725315195>Listen up Phones! The World Ends with you.I clapped!
>>725315195can't expand my horizons when i work fifty hours a week and barely have enough money
>>725318162>168 hours in a week>work 50 hours a week>sleep for (presumably) 56 hours a week>still have 62 hours>have "no time"
>>725318237>>725318309Nah, it's more like, the only people worried about a game reprogramming them and making them want to dress up in girls clothes were probably closeted faggots anyways.Like you.
>>725318285this is how the average neet thinks time works
>>725318410Presuming you work six days a week as week as well, you still have 8 hours of free time for six days.
>>725318514You are terrified that a game will make you a tranny.
>>725318285you're not taking account for the time to commute, feeding yourself, paying bills and other functional life bare minimum activity like washing your clothes and having them ready for working next day otherwise you're fired, going to a medic if you get sick, to a mechanic if your vehicle stops working, etc.Middle and low class people can account for 4 free hours on a good day.
>>725317502yea fuck this shit 2012 was 18 years ago.i had anime shop in ukraine in2010 or something, and bought nds with r4 card just to play twewy and look, we having a war like, 4 yeras already.nice game yea. second game was pretty mid,though.
game made me a badge collecting autismo for a while
Nomura knows how to design a sexy female
>>725315195It's true that you will only get the most out of life by willing to challenge yourself and go outside your comfort-zone. It doesn't necessarily mean that the end result of that will be good, however.
It's your fault you don't have a slut hebe pesting you all the time just touch grass bro
>>725318706>commuteIf you live more than 15 minutes from work, get a different job.>feeding yourselfJust eat at work.>paying billsJust do that at work too.>washing your clothesThrow them in the wash on your day off. Better yet, don't wash them unless they bother you. Who you trying to impress?>going to a medic if you get sickCall in sick. You get a minimum of 40 hours of sick leave at most jobs.>to a mechanic if your vehicle stops workingCall in sick. What are they gonna do, go to your house?It sounds like you're just wasting a lot of your own time.
>>725319148It's not saying it will be though, just that if you don't your life will almost certainly either be shit or boring.
>>725319236coddled neet thinks there's a functional job and housing market out there lmao
>>725315195It works for Neku's character arc, but it's not really something equally profound to everyone. I personally just looped back into not talking to people very much and that's fine.
>>725319236>What are they gonna do, go to your house?fire youare you 8?
>>725317117Never played TWEWY, who are these characters?
>>725319416>You don't get it, I NEED to work at the gigantic office buildingJust work in a warehouse. Like a normal loser.>>725319498You don't get fired for taking sick leave. If you take five sick days off in a row, then you'll probably get that put on your record, but taking sick days is something you aren't penalized for and only a dumbass is terrified that the occasional faked sick day will get them in shit.
>>725315195the problem is that Neku ended up enjoying others' company and caring about them, which is like most people to be fair, but doesn't apply to individuals who fundamentally do not like interacting with people
>>725319284life will be shit or boring otherwise tooIt's like telling people to be good goys and make a 200% effort at their job to be promoted when the lazy and the good path will take you to the same end
>>725315195The world does end with you. Therefore, you have to end this fucking world, itms only fair.
>>725319710>itmsooooohhh...yikes... sorry your mic drop was ruined buddy. Next time
>>725319284You might not be, most stories the send the message of "don't close yourself off from others" almost always carry a good bit of idealism.
>>725315195To a degree yeah. If you only stick with what you're familiar with, that limits you.
>>725319541this is characters from twewy
>>725319607>child neet that hasn't lived out of his mom's warehouse thinks in the real world companies go by the book and respect their dutiesLet me guess you never met any of the millions of people that work unpaid extra hours every day around the world
>>725319482>>725319652It works universally. If you don't enjoy people's company that's fine, but you should still seek to expand your world in other ways that don't involve socialising. The world unironically does end with you. If you never learn a hobby, never learn about the world, never learn a skill, etc and just waste away in your room that's all (you)r world will ever be. Just that one room.
he's right racism and the extermination of blacks, jews, and south east asia is the only way
>>725315195No,my motto is Maximize comfort.Does being obese make life more comfortable? NoDoes being a massive bodybuilder make life more comfortable? NoDoes being healthy make life more comfortable? YesJust an example of my ways.
>>725315195Enjoying life is a message I'll always get behind.
antiescapism slop like NGE, TWEWY and NHK fails because they doesn't address the external causes of the issues, ignore the normal state of people don't giving a fuck about you and drop some cute teen girl lusting for the main character's cock or offering to help him all the way through as if that would ever happen to you
>>725319946In the real world, you're too small for even your supervisor to give a shit about, and using your sick days is normal.If they don't go by the book, you get an easy 2 months free pay while looking for your next job by the way. This is the issue with being scared and kneeling to some guy in a suit functionally above you, you can very easily ruin their life if they get you fired for using your sick days (which again, doesn't happen unless you work in a kitchen or something).
POST THE BEST TWEWY OSTs, RIGHT NOW!
>>725318706>he doesn't know about alternate work schedulesAfter vacation I work about 190 days a year while making six figuresIt's like half being a NEET while also having money, it's great
>>725320413that's if you live in the very few countries in the world where the law is more or less upheld and not bend by rich people
>>725320627TIMEI WON'T EVER GIVE IN
My life's too precious to be shackled by insecurity.
>>725315195I really wanna play the remaster for the extra content but the controls are so dogshit I can't make it past the first couple days.
>>725320723What are you, Indian?If you live anywhere in North America or Europe, then someone getting your fired without pay for using your sick days will result in either your job being reinstated or you getting somewhere between 2-6 months worth of pay, and both of those result in the person who pushed the decision getting fired or being suspended without pay.This is because these people are not 'rich people', they're barely above you, and big companies take the path of least resistance. Some fuckhead getting a $5000 package is a lot preferable to the POTENTIAL of an eventual organized lawsuit for unfair workplace practices, so they just cut their losses.
>>725319541the boy is Neku, the protagonist. The girl is Shiki, the deuteragonistthe scene presented is something that happens ingame
>>725320627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2L_WSu3tDQ
>>725315597>The world ends with you>your view of the world is as big as you'll allow it to beI dunno, it makes sense to me
>You gotta reach out and grab shiki's ass, the world ends with you man.
>>725320627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWqaabINbVA
>>725320408But Shiki gets wrecked by week 1.Week 2 and 3 are all Neku trying to reach out to others all by himself so he can get the happy end he wants.
The best part of the new content with Coco was the part where Coco has an art still dedicated to just kicking Hanekoma.
>>725320968>NA>not an oligarchy>respecting workers rights
>>725321694has a cute slut approached insisting on be close to you anon?
>>725320627For me it'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fNMpHLXxdc
>>725321929Again, it's not about respecting rights, but about how much effort a company wants to exert.They could pay off several levels of government, but if a lawsuit is launched, which it would inevitably be, even if they won they'd still lose a lot of money and it wouldn't be worth it.They will always do the small payout and punish one guy as opposed to doing a dragged out legal process where they never make any money back because the people on the other side are people they fired.
>>725320993The boy gets naked in front of the girl?
>>725322672https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVpU3ckQyJg
>>725320627Ohh, how unfortunatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KX2uHHy9_c
>>725315195I would not take this advice from japanese people. Specifically japanese video game developers.Besides it's all fake since it's just a reaction to the otaku outbreak otherwise they'd be telling you that it's no use.
>>725319710If the world ends with you then the best thing to do is to ruin the world for everyone else so the "you" persists beyond your lifespan.
2009 propaganda for japanese corpo that needs you working those sweet extra hours and buying shit for women so they don't want you neeting and being comfy in your room
What is Cocos endgame
>>725315195only works on depressed (AKA greedy) people, I'm happy with the meager world I have
Is the second game any good?
>>725315195>Listen up, phones...>...Title of the game
There's no reason for males to wear clothes
>>725315195I just feel the phrase is worded very stupid. I know the meaning. The world only goes as far as you want it to be.
Yeah. There's no period of time where it isn't right. You don't necessarily have to be open-minded but simply learning about more and more varied things is enriching even if you arrive at the same conclusion you had at the start.
>>725315195I genuinely belive 95% of /v/ either purposefully ignores this message or just did not fucking get it.And I find that very painful.
>>725324365why wouldn't I ignore bluepill propaganda?
>>725315195>>725324170
>>725324478anon...
>>725315195Up to when it released, absolutely.Then everybody "expanded their world" to a terrible extent and everything went to shit, so maybe you should only expand it locally instead. It was a nice message and I don't hold it against anybody, nobody could have expected the world to go the way it did.
>>725315195Yup, I got off my ass, moved to Japan, and now my life is 100 times better.
>>725324145Liked it more than this one
>>725324170Let me guess, you need more?
>>725324194I'd fuck both
>We’ll never get the “see no evil” protag to complete the trilogy Shame. Least we managed to get Neo against all odds.
>>725315195Say the name of the game Bart
>>725324170Who would have thought such a mouthful of a title could be dropped so smoothly. Wonder how that scene reads in Japanese.
>>725318078She was a woman denied her Nutkin.
>>725326151See no Evil lost his game and fucking died, anon.
>>725321091CUMMMMINGYOU HEAR ME CUMMING
>>725324170NIGGA THAT'S NUTS
They should have went with>listen up, the world starts with youThus refuting the protagonist's edgelord doomer personality, celebrating their newfound character growth and, dare I say it, subverting expectations. Big missed opportunity.
>>725315195In an ideal world, yes.Too bad we don't live in one.It's either look out for yourself or get raped by our industrial society.
>>725320627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3mHdyiuJRAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDsNanSd1E
>>725324194Is the person sitting on the girl's lap a boy or girl?
>>725328363That's Rin-dog!
TWEWY is my favorite game and I love the story. I still didn't stop being an introvert that sticks to himself though. I don't get inspired to "be better" or shit from fiction, I was happy for Neku when it ended and thought it was good and then I continued living my life as normal.
>>725328494Who?
>>725315404>This is literally just nonsenseJust use a modicum of intelligence and it's simple. Your entire worldview ends with how far You are willing to go with it.How is that hard?
>>725328832Everyone can tell what would be the intended positive message but the wording just doesn't work in that direction, just like how saying "life ends with birth" doesn't have a 5D chess interpretation where it means life starts at birth. It's just the wrong word. It's probably more clever in japanese.
>>725327425They did at the end but it was titled "The World Begins With You"
>>725324194Do you think Rindo's butt actually looks that nice?
>>725329625Awww yes now we're talking, there goes the kino reversal I was hoping for. I only ever saw the title drop in the OP so I thought it didn't get better. I'm actually in the middle of playing the game, or rather just starting? The girl with in orange shirt Rhyme just got DELETED by sharks out of nowhere, everything about this game is insane.
I never beat NEO, I think I was on the third week.Think its worth going back and finishing it? Does it have a huge postgame like the first one?
>>725319946Do you live in a 3rd world country? If you live in a first world nation, then once you're past your probationary period (typically 3 months) it becomes dramatically more difficult for a company to be given cause to fire you. Its called your civil rights dumbass, it comes included for free with your fucking national citizenship. If you somehow work a shit job where your typical civil rights do not apply, its the job that's dogshit. If you're in that position then keep posting your resume buddy, nothing other than a loser attitude is truly keeping you trapped there, and one day if you just keep searching you can find a place for yourself in this world you can feel happy with. This game of life is only truly over when you no longer choose to play.
>>725330368>Does it have a huge postgame like the first one?It's not as long as Tin Pin Slammer, no, but it's decently long. It's still an AU situation and you do have to replay it I think it was three or four times for all the pins due to the different routes.
>>725315195any advice that a Japanese gives to you only works in japan, the world in general is fucked up, no one is lucky to live in a society like japan, and nowadays, that advice is almost obsolete as the current japan is not like it was 18 years ago.
>>725324365It's really not that important of a message. But most of the people that think it is exclusively believe in the "450 lb NEET" strawman, so there's no conversation to be had.
>>725328591I've noticed that a lot of people believe in the idea of a story being able to "better" people or some shit. It's fucking retarded honestly; as if make believe could be applied to irl circumstances.
>>725315195The crazy thing about Japanese games is that they have this idea that other people will actually support you and help you achieve your dreams, but in real life they don't give a shit. Funny how now that I'm a millionaire everyone wants to be my friend when they hated me growing up. I wish I had friends like Riku and Kairi.
>>725331023Even Riku fucking stabbed you in the back
>>725326846why does it have diarrhea graffiti
>>725331101He was possessed by Ansem at the time.
>>725316379yeah, nowdays everyone it's a fucking bitch.get punched, scrape your knees, get your face licked by a dog.get your heart broken, so the day you got it torn in half, it doesn't hurt too much.
>>725330506what part of most people in the world don't you understand
Do you think Neku would have stopped being an asshole to Shiki during week 1 if he was forced to play the Reaper's Game naked?
>>725328591>>725330905I resonate with this. I think the real purpose of a story about touching grass is just to make you able to think you could be a better person, if only briefly. It doesn't necessarily need to work. Maybe you'll just go "uh ok" at the end of a vidya and immediately forget about it and give up on yourself again, and then maybe next time you go on a walk you'll stop to look at flowers and decided to do something different today, and maybe the game you played the previous night contributed to that whim even if you're not remotely thinking about it at all. All the little things add up. It just seems misguided when people try to say that a game changed their life when it was probably a whole bunch of shit that added up over time but they only paid attention to the last one and gave it all the credits. It's reddit-tier level of unhealthy mentality. It's not like everything needs to magically change you into a completely different person in order to be deemed a success, as long as it contributed ever slightly to not frowning then it did its job. No need for a fanfare, quiet is good too.
I've never seen a game go so hard into neuron activation fetish without even trying to hide it.>the way shiki puts her hand on her hips
>>725328591Fictional stories aren't intended to make you turn your life around. They're simply meant to have you consider differing viewpoints portrayed in such a way that makes you ask more questions, thus opening yourself to more possibilities.They don't ask you to jump to the moon. They simply give an avenue for you to give it another look.
>>725315658It isn't realistic but if it went for a cynical portrayal of how the average person would treat Neku you'd end up with something like YIIK
This and Neo were the last games I beat before going on my video game hiatus.
>>725329381>"life ends with birth" doesn't have a 5D chess interpretation where it means life starts at birth???????The pic in OP actually makes sense, "life ends with birth" just sounds retarded and makes me think you don't even understand OPs pic.
>>725334551This isn't really news, after all Shiki was the origin of the vagina bones meme.
>>725338421Google trends tell me that the term vagina bones spiked in popularity in 2005, and there was an urban dictionary definition in 2006, but Twewy was released in 2007. Seems the meme slightly predates the game but no doubt it must have contributed to popularity.
>>725315195HE SAID THE GAME'S TITLE
>>725315195This game taught me one thing, and it was how to memorize SOH-CAH-TOA.
>>725340756Based Sho teaching kids math better than schools did.
>>725341161It's funny how well-timed it was too, as I was doing a lot of math exams around the time I played it.
>>725315195>game says to push your horizon>you're still a gay little faggot playing the same little kid gameswhat went wrong here
>>725342246this world is what's wrong
I'm so bad at RPGs, I couldn't even beat the first zone in OFF. But I really like the aesthetic of TWEWY. How fucked am I if I start playing?>>725320627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihO_WgGLRM&pp
>>725320627For me, it's Breaking Free
>>725342685It starts off very easy but some of the late game enemies and bosses get pretty tough.There is an easy mode you can switch to at any time if you're really struggling so I wouldn't worry too much.
>>725342685This is like saying you suck at platformers and asking about max payne
>>725329381>Everyone can tell what would be the intended positive message but the wording just doesn't work in that direction, just like how saying "life ends with birth" doesn't have a 5D chess interpretation where it means life starts at birth. It's just the wrong word. It's probably more clever in japanese.psued.
I'm not sure if i'm mishearing the lyrics or not but in Neo, there's a song where it sounds like its about a woman and an abusive partner that rapes her or something. But its a jammer. Fucking bizarre.
>>725320408>cute teen girl lusting for the main character's cock>Asuka has massive issues >Rei is severely emotionally repressed and fucked up and ends up, well, dying >Misato has massive issues >Shiki’s body isn’t even the real herHave you actually played or seen these works?
He's absolutely correct aside from acknowledging that everyone can have a different limit. I won't follow that advice because I'm not dissatisfied with my world being incredibly narrow.
>>725315195I am incapable of escaping the caked on layers of cynicism and misanthropy. I have mixed it with my bitterness, made of it a clay, and from it I have fired bricks.What horizon? There is only the walls of the house which I have built.
>>725315195Yes. "The world ends with you" is a phrase that means that you are the one who decides how shitty the world is for you. You are responsible for your own happiness. You need to experience things, especially new things, to keep the world from "ending". Making connections with people is a part of that but it's hardly all the game is saying. It’s a piece of wisdom that stems from old Buddhist philosophy, which is fitting considering how the three wise monkeys proverbs are reflected in both games’ protags. Instead of pretending everything is sunshine and rainbows like most friendship media, the games admit from the start that you won't be able to understand everyone. If you want to look cool, you follow fashion trends or set your own. If you have pocket change, why not try eating different foods? TWEWY made it clear that The World Ends With You: your world involves things you notice. Ignore it all, and your world has nothing. Neku in the first game even admits that you won't be able to understand the other guy truly to the fullest, but it's better to try than to not try at all.
>>725343174>asukakissed him and lives with him in his pseudo harem. All the teasing and anger she projects is typical girl way of seducing or venting her lust.>reiactual autist oblivious of sex and love but the feelings are there regardless, part of his pseudo harem>misatolives with him, seduced him in the last episodes in order to copeliterally promised him to have sex in EoE if they made it alive>Shiki’s body isn’t even the real herirrelevant
>>725315597Legal issues. According to fandomwiki:>It was revealed that the title of the game would change from It's a Wonderful World to The World Ends with You to avoid copyright issues with a film released in 1939.I like the localized title. And it's something that stuck to me, actually. There's nothing wrong with expanding your horizons (within reasonable limits)
>>725344337>All the teasing and anger she projects is typical girl way of seducing or venting her lust.Did you forget the part that she’s severely fucked up thanks to the trauma from her mom and acts toxic as fuck?Also, for Misato and Rei, these aren’t exactly seen as good things.>ShikiRegardless of how that’s pretty much ignoring Shiki’s entire character arc, Neku didn’t even like her at first because she acted fake as all hell and couldn’t give a shit about her looks, it’s only when she actually drops the mask and lets her insecurities be shown that he actually starts to like her.
>>725330324Keep playing. You will get the kino line eventually.
How's the sequel? I still haven't gotten around to it
>>725344735Genuinely a fantastic follow-up. Was pleasantly surprised.
>>725344581yet nothing of those things are relevant to the point of them being otaku gooning shit made to give you an illusion of being mature and bettering your lifeA horny redhead girl won't keep anon company and take interest on him because people don't give a shit about strangers
>>725344821>none of those things are relevant Based speedreader/watcher.
>>725344735Really damn good. Doesn't hit quite the same highs (though I'm also not a teenager anymore) but the combat is excellent, the characters are charming, and it pays homage to the first game in various ways that all feel genuine but still tell their own story. I won't say it's a perfect game and I'll never love it more than TWEWY, but it's definitely worth picking up.
>>725344821Holy speedreader
>>725344851speedreading the first of the posts about those works being fake antiescapism otaku shit as well
>>725344735It was fucking awful. I wouldn't have finished it if it wasn't a TWEWY sequel. It doesn't stand on its own and just feels like its wanking off about the original cast all the time. It also has a 4kids tier butchered translation.The music and art in it is very very good though.
Neo's music is dogshit
>>725344924the translation is excellent, fuck off back to varis hangout so you and your buddies can jerk off to google translate
>>725344924>just feels like its wanking off about the original cast all the time.>Sho fucks off after the first week >Beat is mainly support for the group and gets constantly made fun of by the other teams >Neku DOES get wanked (for good reason given his feats in the previous game) but it’s only there to further Rindo’s character arc and show how he ultimately ISN’T infallible and just as susceptible to the Dissonance as everyone else.How has it already been four fucking years and retards STILL don’t get NEO’s story or themes?
>>725315195>>725315195How do you know if it's time already?
>>725345146TWEWY fans cannot fucking read, that’s why.
Actually it did speak to me a lot at the time I played it 17+ years ago and got me to completely turn around the way I was living my life. I think without TWEWY I would still be bitter and isolated.
>>725345146To add to all of this, part of Rindo’s main issue is that he wants to overly rely on the previous cast to carry his ass through instead of relying on his own capabilities and fighting alongside them as actual equals. To the point that when it turned out that the legendary Neku was just Beat all along, he bitches and moans about it.
>>725344924>just feels like it’s wanking off about the original cast all the timeI’ve played NEO about 4 times already and I really don’t get this meme. The subject of Neku becomes relevant for about two days (Week 2 Day 1 and Week 2 Day 2, respectively) out of a full 24, and the main focus is kept on Rindo and his companions as they tackle the Game. Even when Neku eventually does come back, he mainly plays a supportive role to the rest of the party. Up to that point, he rarely if ever gets a mention due to the majority of the game’s focus being on the new cast. Like the other guy said, Beat gets made fun off all the time but he’s so thick-headed that the insults just bounce off of him and his teammates and Uzuki/Kariya are just about the only ones who give him his due.Hell, in Sho’s case, Rindo, Fret, and Nagi overly relying on him turned out to be a bad thing in the long run because the second he’s done with what he wants, he just ups and ditches them.
>replay of the game reveals the existence of several god-people in the world each one ruling their own Underground like Shibuya>with this you expect more games in the way>it took 14 years for it>is set on Shibuya again>with the old castwhy
>>725345893Simple: culture clash that shows Shibuya’s focus on individuality vs Shinjuku’s business-like culture and sociality. The new Game has entirely new rules anyway so we still get to see a new structure.
>>725345893Because Neku was BETRAYED and TRAPPED and they needed to give a conclusion to his story.
>>725346095>The new Game has entirely new rules anywayOh boy, another week of turf wars...
>>725345743>’ve played NEO about 4 times already and I really don’t get this memeBecause the guy you're responding to and others like him didn't actually play the game. They're lonely and just want to talk to people so they make shit up or worse, parrot things others have said.
>>725315195Neo: twewy's story was a huge disappointment
>>725346408Funny, I think your mother said the same thing about your birth.
>>725346408>E33 fag talking shit about disappointing stories
>>725345743Based and actually pays attention to the story-pilled.
>>725345893>we will NEVER see what the other district's UGs look likeIt simply isn't fair.
>>725346408At least NEO TWEWY didn’t end on a fucking "it was fake all along, bro" note.
>>725346782I'm still mad at Prey
The only major complaint I have about NEOs story is that a lot of the shinjuku reapers felt like they barely impacted the story at all, prime examples of this are Ayano and Hishima, Ayano was barely present and had one interesting scene before being killed, and Hishima only showed up in week 3 and didn't do anything until it was time to talk to Shiba, he was a pretty inconsequential character, if Shiba was convinced by Tsugumi to swap sides by herself, Hishima could just not exist at all and it wouldn't matter
>>725346782Between that and the fucking lame parryslop combat, I still don’t know what the fuck people see in E33.
>>725346782>Bro it was never real broFUCK YOU It was shit when FFTA did it 20 years ago and it's still shit now.
>>725346879It's crazy to me people actually like Prey and call it a 10/10 game.
>>725315195He's right. The only problem is that the world itself has become a lot harder to live in as a fact than it was when the game released, but the whole game would probably still resonate with people if it could reach them today.
what would the hypothetical see no evil game where the protagonist wears sunglasses everywhere be
>>725315195I could get behind that
>>725346927The Shinjuku Reapers suffer because Neo is essentially the third game in a trilogy after two decades but also they never got around to making that second game so we just see consequence upon consequence pile up on characters we're missing the full story of for shit that we have no hope of properly understanding.I think they balance it the best they can but there's only so much to be done. Plus they had to work in A New Day even though whatever plan was there undoubtedly got changed mid-development.
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>>725346323egregious sho wank for most the first weekthen beat wankthen neku wank>oh but there's one line of dialogue that says maybe they aren't that cool!great, don't write them into the game then lazy cuntsuzuki and kariya too. one of the staff there must want to fuck kariya because he shows up all the time and is a completely worthless addition in neo
>>725347129I was fine with it as a fuckabout immersive sim where I could fuck up alien goo monsters with a shotgun and shoot darts at computer monitors to activate touchpads, but everything after you meet surviving humans causes the game to collapse in on itself and the ending pissed me off even further. I'm already having to suspend my disbelief to care about this environment and the people in it, if you tell me it's a double-layered abstraction I'm gonna be pissed. I'm pissed.
>>725315195Shiki navel
>>725347315>oh but there's one line of dialogue that says maybe they aren't that cool!>Sho gets his ass whooped by the Twisters>Beat almost dies to both Tsugumi AND Sho>Neku straight up dies again to the Dissonance NoiseActually pay attention to the story next time, retard-kun.
>>725347315How the fuck does a game made for teenagers escape you this badly?
>>725347315Based retard.
>>725347307I really wish Final Remix got more time in the oven, it seems like they were trying to re-introduce the original mechanics, but I guess squeenix wanted it out the door, so we got waggle Solo Remix controls, also the gameplay modifiers in A New Day suuucked, and the story was pretty below average, especially coming off of a replay of the original game that you have to play to get to A New Day, and yeah I can definitely see the "third game" angle, I think the devs said if they make a new game (which is a big if) they want it to be somewhere outside of Shibuya? So I'm not sure we'll ever see those Shinjuku plot threads explained or expanded upon
>>725347315Literally none of that happens besides Sho and the party eat shit for it even he bails on them after the first weekEither you're retarded or you didn't even play it
>>725347270Neku was a judgmental prick who needed to learn that the outside world and the people in it had things to offer him and experiences he'd never have alone. Rindo was a shiftless layabout who didn't value his own agency and preferred aloof detachment to any responsibility. In that vein, Shades would be someone who needs to learn that their perspective on life is innately valuable for being theirs, and they can't just ignore what they don't like because it'll leave them incomplete as a person. Similar to how Neku needs to learn to trust his partner and Rindo needs to learn to trust his own decisions, Shades would need to learn to trust his own senses and intuition. Same as Neku and Rindo he'd probably have an influencer he followed blindly and parroted all their opinions, went to the landmarks they recommended, ate at the places they ate, and just floated through life without encountering anything on his own terms that he wasn't already told how to feel about it.
The people defending neo's story feel like shitposters at this point.
>>725347315Kariya is there to contrast his relationship to Uzuki with Shiba and Hishima’s and to add onto Uzuki’s own character development. He’s hardly a worthless addition.Uzuki’s role is a continuation of her character development from the first game. Actually read the dialogue, holy shit.
>>725347606sho, a dead character, shows up right away and babysits the cast for the first few days, then fucks off because beat is about to show up. the whole story relies on reused characters because they had no faith in the new ones. probably for the best, the main 3 here are worthless.
>>725347618>wait, someone who can actually read the dialogue and doesn’t go for baseless complaints? Must be a shitposter!Pathetic.
>>725347707>Sho, a dead character Anon, he was already dead. He’s a Reaper.
>>725347775Is it ever explicitly stated that all the reapers are people from the RG that died?
>>725315195Absolutely.
>>725347618>anon actually pay attention to what the story is trying to say instead of mindlessly shitting on it>they’re the shitposters instead apparently
>>725347820I’d imagine that the majority of them are. However, given how living Players are a thing, it wouldn’t be all that surprising if an exception would exist later down the line.
>>725346782I guess, but what does it have to do with E33.
>>725348023>he doesn’t know
>>725348023Oh, you poor soul…
>>725348023Anon....
>>725344735I think it's very flawed but it managed to keep the spirit of the series mostly intact over a decade after it released, which is pretty impressive.
>>725320627Everyone stand for the American National Anthemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LK01R-sCNg
The Beat getting wanked accusations are just funny to me because if anything, it’s the opposite with how so many of the Player teams shit on him just for not being the almighty Neku. Beat, being the best boy, doesn’t give a shit, however, and just continues on being a bro and gives you FOUR upgrades (one extra button again, 200% Mashups, soundsurfing, increased I-frames,) in contrast to Sho’s bum ass that left to go get milk.
>Don't be an emo loner.>OH MY GOD! THIS IS THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME STORY OF ALL TIME!!!!Not a bad message, but the story's overrated.
>>725344735Liked it better than the original. Then again, I thought the original TWEWY was massively overrated to begin with but NEO was still my 2021 GOTY regardless.
>>725348048>>725348075>>725348119Are you genuinely retarded enough to think that painted world is "fake" or are you trolling me?
>>725348334While the message may not seem particularly deep, what makes TWEWY’s good is how it goes about in embodying that message. Good storytelling is about the insight you can provide through character dialogue, action, psychological reflection, and theming. Even if your themes are easy to understand, if they are layered in a way that the insight is still meaningful, you've got an impactful product. And even then, it’s hardly all of the story is saying. There’s a lot you can parse between when it comes to the mind games between Joshua, Mr. H, and Kitaniji or Beat’s whole conflict basically revolved around psyching himself up to be a murderer for the sake of his little sister and ultimately not being able to go through with it. Beat has to make some of the hardest decisions in the game.
>>725348615You really can't say it's very subtle when it literally spells out the message for you. I think the game has great characterization, though.
>>725348615>>Beat has to make some of the hardest decisions in the game.This is why Beat and Shoka are two of my favorite characters in the duology. The two of them sacrifice so much for the people they care about and expected to get jack and shit for it.>Beat was willing to become the Composer to bring Rhyme back even if she would potentially never remember him and willing to throw in his wings in return for Neku giving him Rhyme’s pendant.>Shoka was willing to go against her found family in order to protect the few people she can genuinely connect with as well as save Shibuya and was fully willing to die at the end with no hope of her actually getting a happy ending
>>725320627bird in the hand
>>725349002>had to mercy kill her adoptive older sister figure >had to take down her adoptive older brother figure too>was fully prepared for his best friend to initially hate her and die without him ever finding out the truth to spare him from the heartbreak >is heavily implied to have a bad home life to boot Shoka had it rough, man.
>>725348334People ALWAYS pretend the anti-social isolation message is the greatest thing in the world.
>>725315195The more I push out the more I want to be alone. Sick game though
>>725320408Misaki is an angel.
>>725353242Should I read the manga of NHK first, or the anime. I know the novel is where the story originates, but I was mostly curious between those two choices.
>>725315195stop playing games for 12 year olds
OPEN UP YOUR EYES
>>725315195Do you think Hanekoma ever thought about fucking Neku?
>>725346207Really questions the purpose of Turf Wars when deliberately overpowered teams like the Twisters (who are much stronger than dead Players due to not being dead) and the Ruinbringers (who are Reapers) can just wipe the floor with teams of generic Players.
How does it make you feel knowing the IP is almost certainly going to stay dead forever now?
>>725354586Seen it happen more than enough times to be desensitized at this point
>>725353707I recommend watching the anime first desu. It hits a lot harder emotionally thanks to the presentation and music. The manga has an overall better story imo and was written by the author of the original novel but it's not as emotional all the way through
>>725315195I swear, games with messages like these were made for normalfags who have never actually dealt with life and never consider what causes people to reject society to begin with. What's worse is that these games' corny messages barely apply to the modern world where people are even more disconnected than ever.
>>725354798Normalfags don't play games like TWEWY, otherwise it or its sequel wouldn't have sold so badly
>>725354586Feels like the world has ended. But that's OK. I don't have a lot of faith in current sqenix, and I think they should focus on other shit anyways.
>>725355034It's sequel launched on EPIC. It was doomed.
>>725354586That's fine. It's a better fate than being resurrected as a shell of what it was, and then that zombie being what most people associate with it.
Do we have any twewy spiritual successor?
>>725320408Sonny Boy is what you're looking for
>>725320095If you're happy staying in that room what's wrong with it ?
I clicked on this thread because I love TWEWY and uh yeah nevermind I'm gonna go
>>725347356>>725334551Midriff Queen
New FanGOWhaddaya think?
>>725355932wtf Shoka is indian?
>>725315195>Simple advice from an adult telling a young person that choices they make can broaden their experiences>Was he right?Why are you people trivializing such simple dialogue? Of all things in TWEWY why this convo?
Baby making sex with Rhyme
>>725358428/v/eddit can't read
>>725315195>"What are we some kinda World Ends with You?"
>>725315195Hi Melo thanks for letting us know that the new RS video is going to be out soon. Eager to watch it. am i the only guy excited for the FM Synth video?
>NEO Another Day>pic related changes from a stoic, silent girl to a smug ojou taunting one of the MCs, complete with OHOHOHO laughmy fucking sides>>725344735It's really good. Of course, different to the original game, but they adapted combat gameplay quite nicely from the DS oneIf possible, play it with JP rather than dubbed>>725320627Breaking Free is the best song of NEO, but despite that i really loved this song, especially during Motoi boss fighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0SyWfpz1Fc
>>725354586NEO was a fine resolution to the series, so I was satisfied and made my peace that if this was the end, then it's the end. I'm glad we got one seriously damn good sequel that was content to wrap everything up in a pleasing way.
>>725359667>Another Day Nagi and Tsumugi get into a clit measuring contest over who is the bigger Def March fangirl>the guys are all visibly confused and intimidated
>>725359783Who would win?
>>725344489Is this why the new Gumball season was called "The Wonderfully Weird World of Gumball"?
>>725315323Nope, it's roughly the same, besides the stupid "the world ends with you" line that doesn't really make sense.>Listen up, Headphones.>The world only goes as far as you can see.>So if you want to enjoy it>You've gotta keep on expanding the world that you see.
>>725315404All true, everything Nomura touches can't be good.
>>725358280i think that's fucking nuts
>>725315323it makes sense on english althoughbeit
>>725363641Nomura was just a character designer thougheverbeit
>>725361151>besides the stupid "the world ends with you" line that doesn't really make sense.You can’t be this retarded.
>>725364814He became extremely involved and was practically the co-director of FF8 along with Nojima by the time 7 was finished. I do think the Tokyo Team insisting 'if the director of the Disney game isn't Nomura we're quitting' was a bit much though. You may be liked by your junior staff but it shouldn't immediately make you a manager of anything.
>>725365446>I do think the Tokyo Team insisting 'if the director of the Disney game isn't Nomura we're quitting' was a bit much though.>You may be liked by your junior staff but it shouldn't immediately make you a manager of anything.I didn't know the execs were asked to make him direct. I thought they just gave him the game since he was one of the last Sakaguchi devs.
>>725366134>I thought they just gave him the game since he was one of the last Sakaguchi devs.The Peter Principle is real but this didn't completely apply to Nomura. These were his friends from FF7 and 8, and they later became the same people who Tabata fired along with the other KH1/KH2 lead game designers who sided with Nomura.
>>725365025Yeah, I only found and translated the original line. Clearly I'm having trouble understanding it, lol
>>725366192>Tabata fired OG VII/VIII staff members and NomuraPeople don't hate Tabata enough.
>>725346782So they were quite literally staring into a giant red orb the entire time.
>>725315195I think my favorite part about NEO is how different the game must be without knowledge of the OG. It follows its own plot and is perfectly serviceable in that regard with the OG characters being no more or less confusing/vague than the Shinjuku cast (except you can actually PLAY their game).But then you have a line like this. With how prevalent the hunt for the Composer was, not to mention the Conductor, the Director, all these funny terms thrown around daily in the OG, to half the playable cast of NEO they are literally meaningless. Didn't even hit me until I saw the scene. You don't ever properly enter the Shibuya River outside of that one cutscene. Which sucks because I'd have loved to have walked around the Dead God's Pad in 3D.
>>725366394Isn't this game also a metaphor for what the KH team went through, only this time it's not just Nomura raging at what was supposed to be?
>>725366323And yet still very much retarded, funny that.
>>725361151>besides the stupid "the world ends with you" line that doesn't really make sense.The game itself literally explains it.
>>725315404It’s literally just saying "experience new things and you’ll be happier for it." What part of that is nonsense?
>>725367735The rumor goes that Kubo's role (and appearance) were modeled after Tabata
>>725368389Oh for fuck's sake it is isn't it
>>725315404Anon, I expanded my world to >>>/biz/ and am working on a billion dollar idea thanks to my adventure on there.Yes, Mr. H is correct.
nomura is old now and probably can't make a third entry, how does this make you feel
>>725318078The only type of girl localizers know how to write. At least she's a sweetheart on the phone.
>>725315195This unironically applies to vidya. I started enjoying gaming more after branching out into new genres :)
>>725368967Nomura isn't TWEWY's director, he just designs a few characters and makes suggestions.
>>725369110She’s just as much as a tsun in the Japanese version, anon.
>>725356991Most people regret it hence why you don't take a chance to find the exceptions and discourage it all around. More importantly, you want people to contribute to your community. We rely on each other far more than most people give themselves credit for.
>>725320627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toa-x-41a9I
>>725324365TWEWY is a beloved title to the point where it got a sticky for the countdown a decade ago for a reason.
>>725342685You can control the difficulty in TWEWY. You'll be alright lil negga
>>725344735It was a passion project through and through. I wasn't a fan of the premise of the story, but what they set out to do, they executed it masterfully. The protagonist, Rindo, his problems aren't glaring and in your face like Neku's. You'll generally do a double take over a sequence of events and pay attention so you can see just how seemingly inoffensive yet sabotaging his problems are. And his growth is far more gradual where you have to reflect to see just how far he's grown with the decisions he made.My fingers are crossed they'll still continue the series despite whoever that SE official is that has a seething hatred for Nomura.
>>725345308>>725345146The way they integrated the original cast into the storyline (save for Shiki, but I'll suspend my disbelief) was fantastic and they'd have to rewrite the story considerably if they were to remove them.
>>725370257>whoever that SE official is that has a seething hatred for NomuraIt was originally Yoichi Wada then Yosuke Matsuda. The both of them didn't like that Nomura used games to express himself and make games that he wanted to make, when they were able to get more compliant developers to make games that satisfied large markets (the mass market push that led to the systems design and serious Nomura story getting removed from 15) or were similar enough to prior games that sold many copies (compare 10 with 13). They were the same people who pushed back on SaGa games too, as Kawazu used the series to explore concepts he wanted to make in game form in ways that were both too Japanese and alienated the Western market.Yoshi-P and Takai struggled with that early on in 16 and yet so much of it was still stuff they wanted anyway.
>>725354520This was discussed. TWEWY's Reaper game was designed with a clear end goal for players to chase after; reaching self actualization and healing of their internal problems while Shades was attempting to prove to the Composer that Shibuya had people worth protecting and maintaining the city for. The Composer was prepared to wipe the city out.In NEO, the game master Shiba was deliberately playing a death game to cull players. He wanted to wipe them all out due to influence from an overachieving angel. With each new player that enters the NEO Reaper game, it increases the threshold of "resonance" or something a human needed to have to be qualify to enter the game. The Wicked Twister's abilities were so far above the power levels of the others that it pretty much locked any new players from entering
>>725358248God bless 2000s
>>725344735You can see so much love was put into it. I personally found the first week to be a bit harder to get into because it takes way longer for them to start fleshing everyone out without massively reading in between the lines, but past that it's very solid, and then what you know of those later weeks lets you look back on week 1 and how everyone acted and it enhances the experience. It truly felt like a worthy sequel and I am so glad it came out.
>>725354586It's fine. It ended with a perfectly satisfying ending for everyone and the only thing it set up is more of the Angel hierarchy at best. Anything that would come afterward would be with a completely new cast since there's no reason to bring back anyone from TWEWY or NEO into a new TWEWY game whatsoever. We'll likely still see TWEWY representation in KH4/KH5/Verum Rex if they absolutely want to add anything to the story even if the Quadratum Shibuya isn't the same one, but they can easily just make the real Shibuya exist, imply all the stuff from TWEWY and NEO happened, and continue whatever they want from there since as it was DDD implies TWEWY happened just in a slightly different way due to the interruption of the game.I fully expect World of Final Fantasy to also get its conclusion in Kingdom Hearts because that's the only way Maxima's ending will go anywhere short of 20 years from now us getting a random sequel.
>>725372646>I fully expect World of Final Fantasy to also get its conclusion in Kingdom Hearts because that's the only way Maxima's ending will go anywhere short of 20 years from now us getting a random sequel.That's also likely, since Nomura produced it. The guy who directed it who worked with him on the original Gummi Ship concept for the Satellaview left Square Enix and put up his own YouTube channel with retrospectives on the industry and the 4K version of the WoFF intro
>>725373204Hiroki Chiba left Square Enix? What the fuck was he working on since 2019?
>>725368193Hyperbole a bit too much for you there, champ?
>>725368230Well, the game doesn't actually explain it because the phrase doesn't exist in the Japanese version. The translator came up with an explanation for it after the fact because he didn't like the original title.
>>725315195>game says you should enjoy life, try new things, reach out to others>4chan /v/ anon says life is miserable, you should never try new things and other people are all horrible>4chan /v/ anon is a curmudgeon who hates life>normalfag that enjoys life, tries new things and reaches out to others gets more enjoyment out of life despite having a complicated, shitty life tooYeah, he was right.Also it should be noted that these games are aimed at 15-year olds. These kinda messages are more relevant for 15-year olds with self-esteem issues than for 30-something balding losers.
>>725339550>>725338421That was early 2000s fashion...Holy shit I'm old.
>>725373817I didn't know good values had an age exemption
>>725320408>waaah... waaaaah... i need a cute teen gf to get out of my shell it's not fairC'mon bro, you should've outgrown this shit a long time ago.>waaaah... but world is... le unfair!Yeah, everyone's life is complicated and hard. That doesn't prevent some people from growing up and being happy.The message is a bit unrealistic? Yes, it's not so easy. But there's so many people that don't even try and that's what the game is trying to drill on the minds of the 15-year olds that play it.>>725374282They don't, but as I said the message is more relevant for teenage boys because that's the age were it can make more of an impact. A low self-esteem 15-year old boy can look at Neku and think "maybe there's not-scary people out there, maybe I can find a friend if I try", he can look at Rindo and say "I should try making decisions for myself instead of relying on my parents/peer pressure."A 30-something divorced, balding manchild with debt out the ass who plays games for a small dose of escapism sees these things and thinks it's all feel good hippy nonsense.
>>725345893Because they didn't allow them to do that basically. NEO had a lot of meddling from execs, then Square-Enix actively sabotaged the game's release.If we ever get a third release (lmao) it should be based out of Shibuya.
>>725344924>wanking off about the original cast all the timeNo, Rindo is wanking off the original cast because he leaves all decision-making to others and it fucked them hard on the long term.If anything the game doesn't do the original cast justice. They, especially Neku, should be far more powerful than pretty much everyone due to their circumstances.
>>725348316Beat is just amazing all around. Not just because he's really important in the story, he's a genuinely pleasant character.
>>725371158This wasn't discussed. This is what the game says on the secret files.
>>7253470611. Parrying was fun, at least to me, and adding the suffix -slop to it isn't gonna change that. It's way better than any turn based RPG without timed presses, at least.2. It isn't "fake" all along, it's just created.
>>725345238Congrats anon
