What made it so iconic?
dating sim aspects but players could pretend it was about anime chess
The explicit hardcore gay sex scenes
>>725382558Nothing, it's actually shit.
>>725382558Nothing. It's a bad FE game that casualized itself and added waifuslop to attract normalfags and teen weebs.
Oldfags hate it because it makes them realize how shallow their games are
>>725383049>complex gameplay is when I pair up robin and chrom and click end turn
>>725382558This was the only fire emblem game I liked.I only bought it cause I was into Laura Bailey's voice and short blue haired anime reverse traps and Lucina was the face of the marketing. I played it a lot and the fates came out with egregiously awful writing. 3 houses and echoes and heroes all also sucked. I didn't even bother with engage.
>>725383104you beat oldslop by just clicking end turn
>>725383104Replace paired up Chrom/Robin with any decent Paladins and you basically have the GBA era.
>>725383263>>725383360>end turn spam with juggernaut, old fe:(>end turn spam with juggernaut, nu feÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ
>>725382558babby's first FE
>>725383448in nu-FE you at least need the brain power to pair up
>>725382558it's a fun video game
Was good for beginners, came out as the 3DS was starting to hit its stride, and Masked Marth was actually good marketing.
I quit Awakening halfway through because it was so fucking boring and my favorite is SS which is already easy as fuck
>>725382558Is this a good place to start?
>>725382558You can put benis in bagina and have cool time traveling kids.
>>725382558waifu date shit. that's the only reason people give a fuck about modern FE.
>>725382558One of the only decent 3DS games released at the time, first FE localized and released in the west since Shadow Dragon remake and first original non-remake FE in the west since Radiant Dawn, packed full of a shit ton of content with all those free spotpass DLC releases and the paid DLC. Tons of new QoL features that made it a great onboarding point for newcomers. Romance, skill emblem, child units, and multiple difficulties encouraged a lot of replays and grinding for casuals hippers and neurotic autists alike. It's easy to look back on it now and point out all the flaws but it's also easy to see why it was such a huge success at the time.
>>725382558the 3ds had absolutely no games
People say its because of the waifus and dating but the reality is it came out at a time when the 3DS barely had any games, it was the first new FE in forever, and it was marketed well with its flashy cutscenes, anime artstyle and "Marth" being front and center.
>>725382558Toilet armor and no feet.More seriously, the designs aren't that strange or different from other games. You could say that Ephraim or Hector are more iconic than Chrom, given that he's just another blue-haired sword user in blue clothing and is hard to distinguish from Ike. But the game is recognizable as it's the first game that helped revitalize the series. How badly it fucked up the series with its new mechanics is debatable, but it certainly brought in a new and larger audience.As funny as it is to talk about Chrom raping various FeMCs that /v/ played, he's just a knockoff Ike and Lucina is intentionally a knockoff Marth, Tiki is literally big busty Tiki, and most of the rest of the cast is pretty unmemorable. Sure, people who have played can probably name them, but nobody else is going to know who the fuck Valke or Laurent or Panne are. You could argue that the main cast of Fire Emblem Fates is more iconic, since at least lobsterboy Ryoma and big titty oneesan Camilla stand out a lot better.
>>725384031i owned at least 30 3ds games
>>725383908>Is this a good place to start?Yes, it's perfectly fine. My biggest complaints are about how boring it is to replay if you want to try different relationships, but that won't be a concern your first time thru. Have fun and give it a try.If you find the story and the character bonding insufferable, there's games where that's a lot less relevant and it focuses just on gameplay. And if you prefer the character interactions, later games typically have a bigger focus on that part.
>>725383049i'm an oldfag and i skipped all the games between PoR to 3H. 3H is the best in the series it's not debatable
Marriage with Marianne!
>>725382558>iconic localization reveal(Reggie just casually mentioned it was coming out west with no fanfare at an E3 pressure, wasn't even at the fucking show, anybody alive back then remembers how heartbroken people were that the show didn't mention Fire Emblem and then how quickly things turned celebratory when the localization was half-assedly announced)>excellent production values and user experience when the last decade of Fire Emblems were hideous and clunky, quality of life features now standard across the franchise like how support growth works, menu flow, etc.>demo and launch just as the worm turns with the 3DS's price cut and a burgeoning audience looking for killer apps>highest aggregate reviews of all Fire Emblems, only real competition is Three Houses, immediately boosted Fire Emblem's profile from D-list franchise to Iwata himself mentioning it as upgraded to major franchise status in financial reports>highly acclaimed high profile JRPG, a light shining in darkness in the dark age of JRPGs>makes frequent shortlist of greatest games of all timehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_considered_the_best#2010>crashed the fucking eshop>Chrom is the only other Fire Emblem character besides Marth on the Nintendo Museum mural, not even merchandise powerhouse Edelgard or any other 3H characters got a spot there>so much of a big moment for a once-minor franchise other things including within Fire Emblem itself try to have their own "Awakening" moment>Engage immediately tried to replicate it to the point its opening missions are beat-by-beat remakes of Awakening's opening missions without understanding any of its innate appeal or what made it so special, and cratered so bad it sold less than Awakening after a decade of franchise growth and IntSys immediately hit the panic button and went back to Three Houses' setting
The precedent has been set. Which otome game/vtuber artist will work on the next FE after FW?
>>725383759(lol
Fire Emblem GOODhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg98k4owmT0
>>725383745No, that was Sacred Stones, which is coincidentally also the best.
>>725382558It destroyed relayfags, instantly cementing it as a peak game in the franchise
Fire emblem
>>725383104If it's so easy, why haven't the relays ever made it past the beginning of the game?
>>725387159GBA era's first FE was 7 though, that's why there's so many Lyn waifufags in the west
>>725387426>GBA era's first FE was 7 thoughThat was 6
>>725387585retard
>>725387585Roy would be hated worldwide if that were true
>>725387585Moron
>>725382558It was the one that catered to personafags.
>>725382558Tharja and Nowi being two of the hottest vidya characters of all time.
>>725387671>GBA eras first FE>not sixPlease explain your faggotry
>>725387821That's not Three Houses
>>725387821That was 3h
>>725387973JP only
>>725382558the SEX
>>725388649Then fucking say that in the first place, dumbass.
>>725387973technically correct it was about babby's first originally
>>725388859>conversation about baby's first FE>"I know, I'll mention the one that no one played outside Japan!"read the thread next time.
>>725388859Uh oh melty
>>725389043Not my fault you can't form a correct sentence then blame other people like a retard.
>>725388859You're that kind of guy who's too autistic to read context huh
>>725388609>>725388242We were saying this about Awakening before Three Houses existed
>>725389131Read the context of my shoe leather up your asshole
>recruitable unit dies in one chapter>gets taken by a slave trader and sold to train as a dancer that you meet 10 chapters later with a new sprite and artNice
>>725389194Then people were retarded, there's nothing persona about Awakening
>>725389116>>725389263>couldn't even counter >>725389027Concession accepted. Read the thread and learn how to apply context
>>725389512>concession acceptedAnother fucking unoriginal peabrained bot reading from "how to argue on 4chan for dummies". Fuck you bot.
>>725389615I have already accepted your concession
I know that Awakening is a solved game so there's no point in metafagging but damn this skill is dogshit
>>725389810Then accept this too, fuckhead.
>>725390036Why bother when galeforce is all you need?
>>725390137Thanks. Now fuck off retard. You got btfo and can't just move on. Just another autistic moron in the world.
I really hope both of these guys are just bots
>>725384306tharja>gbanigger btfo
>>725390224Ain't going anywhere, cunt.
>>725390224>>725391112Can you fags go make out somewhere else?
The 3DS era FE games are my comfort zone and I don't give a FUCK what anyone says
Awakening was neat with the legacy spotpass teams made with the avatar creator.
If awakening ever gets a remake they'll remix the music to be worse and all spotpass content will be cut and sold as DLC
>>725382558The ability to marry your best friend's daughter and put a baby in her
>>725391762At least the character models would have feet this time right?
>>725391762To be fair, Awakening's music has only one good track.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz-ZQ-t6dTw
>>725392923You mean Three Houses
>>725388242>>725388609Awakening is the one that set everything up. 3H is the one that went full retard with it.>>725389396Aside being able to fuck whatever anime chick is in it as a self insert MC.Not even Mark or Kris were that desperate or pandering.also the dogshit and single minded bad writing that screams persona.
Cutesythea!
Morgan is a cutie
>>725393082>God Shattering Star>Crest of Flames>Fodlan Winds>Paths That Will Never Cross>Unfulfilled>Swift as Wind>Fierce as Fire>Awakening
Kek
>>725393925Back to FE1 Baldychud
>game is so easy you can beat it 16x at once
>>725393925>"I'm gonna take this challenge very seriously. I know people say I throw for content, but you haven't seen me be serious.">Proceeds to keep doing the same retarded shit he has done for yearsCan't train bad habits out of an egg.
>>725393997He will have to cheat again to beat it kek.
Bros i have bad news. No one is campaigning for fire emblems in the queen /v/ qualifiers
>>725396482Fire Emblem has always had a weak presence in Queen/King of /v/.
>>725394137It typically should be trivial to do this since the RNG string is always the same for the same actions, but Excelblem is making this entertaining by purposefully not abusing this.
>>725391762Why in the fuck would they remake it within the next decade
>>725396649To add feet
Exposed back fetish is not real.
>>725397009Cherche has such a good design, and the exposed back is based
>>725396482kek eat shit
>>725396530Did Edelgard even make it on her opening year?
>>725400419She's still in the qualifiers. We'll see if she makes it into the actual tournament.
Being able to ship your units and recruit their kids from the future is pure genius
which fire emblem 6 translation is the best and most faithful?Not trying to download some troon discord teams patchbump
>>725402402just look up the most recent one
>>725382558Nindian thread
>>725402402Google you retard. Stop bumping threads you know the answer to, that's why FE thread get deleted faster. Just let shit die or ask in the fucking general. You want FE threads to exist on /v/? And get banned on sight like fuckiung pragmata ones eventually? Stop being a fucking retard
>>725403104*not
>>725403104>ask in the fucking general
melty lol
>>725403104melty kek>>725403191xhe doesn't know about the pedogore spammer.....
>>725403191>>725403198>>725403567Chat gpt
>>725396482FE may have regular threads here but in the greater scope of /v/, everybody hates it.
>>725382558Hubba implying that your daughters want to have hot sweaty incest with you.
>>725390036I keep getting recommended metafag videos about awakening on YouTube.Its funny seeing these people try and act like awakening has any strategic depth at all.
>>725404045post your lunatic+ save file
>>725382558hot girls and the ability to kiss, fuck, and impregnate said hot girls
>>725393925I tuned in the other day and he was playing like an absolute retard (as usual)He nearly died to a random map encounter with skeletons. He was just moving his units in without checking damage, ranges, anything. People in the chat were begging him to slow down or take a break lmao.
>>725382558music, characters and story
>>725396482I saw you had to create an account to vote and dipped out
>>725382558If you figure it out tell Intsys, they still haven't.
I really enjoyed Awakening when it came out, it had a lot of great features and some of the characters made for great mascots/series representative, but ultimately I don't go back to it as often as other series because the gameplay has a coupke of issues and the game lacks replay value.
>>725383908No it fucking isn't, don't listen to any retard that tells you it is. For one, while it's not a direct sequel, it takes place in the setting of Marth's games, and is also loaded with homages and references you won't get if you haven't played other games. It's also a fucking garbage game in general, and there's only one other game in the series like it.
>>725405356Retard
>>725405356A ton of people started with Awakening and had no issues. The fact that it takes place in the same setting as the Marth games doesn't even matter that much.
>>725382558it was the first time IS wasn't batshit fucking retarded about the release timing and marketing of a fire emblem game. that's it.
>>725393925Why is he so dumb and bad?
>>725393925So does he have to restart from FE1 again? Dude is never making it even a fourth of the way through this shit. He's legitimately so bad.
>>725405631It was also the first FE to be advertised in Nintendo Directs. Which meant a lot of new eyes on Fire Emblem.
>>725405739*bald
>>725393925Can't believe he thought he would make it all the way to FE17 lmao. Can't even get past 2.
>>725405964Imagine needing to go through RD again everytime you fail at DS games
>>725406146What difficulty was he planning to do FE12 on? That one is going to bend him over HARD
>get to 3h>same turn pegasus reinforcement with capped speed one rounds you>back to fe1
>>725384938>without understanding any of its innate appeal or what made it so specialI've only played Awakening and Sacred Stones.What sets the former apart from later entries?
>>725406231Maniac. Even if he somehow got past the prologue, he'd get shat on by ambush reinforcements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFvxOsoRpTY
>>725382558>Flavia on the coverMan, IS really wanted to push her hard and thought she'd be popular, huh?
>>725406618Yeah he stands no chance on maniac even if he guidefags for the ambush spawns. Has he ever even done that before on its own?
>>725406762She's in the background bro, its not like shes front and center of the cover.I don't remember her being pushed that much at all after release.
>>725406762>becomes playable like 1 chapter before the final mapIS has to be retarded to think she'd be popular
I've played shadow dragon and shin monsho no nazo and aside from reinforcements (shit sux) they were ok, I tried playing awakening but it introduces the stupid two characters moving together mechanic which is retarded because I want to control them separately but the game is balanced with pairing in mind and the reinforcements are still in the game plus there is dating shit so I dropped this slop
>>725393925>he lost on gaiden of all gamesyeah hes never beating this
Ivy
>>725407312So just play the other fire emblem games that don't have pair up if it triggers you so badly
Pair-up is a good mechanic
>>725407646The fates version yeah.Awakening's is way too broken tho.
>>725407291To be fair, that didn't hinder Ena, Myrrh, or Vika. Her design is just uninspiring. Doesn't help that she's one of the characters with almost no supports in a game where you can generally support anyone with anyone.
Pair-up is a shit mechanic. Thank God IS had the good sense to scrap it.
>>725407962t. retard that spams it with every unit
>>725407692>too brokenFates' version is even more broken because it puts you in control of its functions, so now you have dual attacks when you want them, and guard gauge is 100% when it's ready, whereas in Awakening it's always a gamble.
>>725407962This, FE needs mechanics to discourage lowmanning with snowball units, not the opposite.
>>725382558You can fuck you're waifu and have a kid.
>>725408291in awakening you can guarantee dual strikes and dual guards from support units with the right skills and high enough skl/def though
>>725407828Myrrh is the only popular character you listed and she joins way before the last chapter (and has dialogue before that) as well as having the pedo appeal.Personally I think Flavia's design is ok but obviously she joins way too late and has too few supports to be popular
>>725407646In Awakening, it's a dogshit mechanic that didn't even see the light of testing. In Fates, it's much better although I'm still not a fan of units gaining stats when paired up. Dual Strike and Dual Guard are kino though.
>>725408449>Dual Strike and Dual Guard are kino thoughChain Guard and Chain Attack are much better though.
>>725408540Better in concept kind of but not really in execution. Engage needs its own Fates to refine those two mechanics into something truly great.
Pair up is kino
>>725408291That doesn't really matter since Pair Up is only on the player's side in Awakening. So you still have 100% control over it in addition to not having to factor enemies using it on you into your strategies at all.
FE11 is kicking my ass bros... I'm only on Chapter 2
>>725409075it'll get a lot easier after chapter 4
>>725382558made a deal with the devil, saved the series but now its part dating sim forever
>>725407646I like and dislike things about both versions of it.>AwakeningI love how there's always a small chance of a block no matter what, so battles are never truly hopeless until the hits actually connect. I hate the stat inflation, the reliance on Support bonuses to get the most out of it and the random pair up attacks.>FatesI love how deterministic it is and how it's no longer tied to supports, which enables a ton of autistic micro. I hate how it turns the game into rocket tag where unpaired units get raped (a lesser flaw in Awakening because there you're expected to always be paired up all the time)
>>725409075What difficulty?Also yeah the early game fucking sucks, it gets better after that.
>>725382558Fire Emblem getting spammed into Smash Bros probably helped.Lots of people only know Captain Falcon not from his own games but due to being in Smash Bros and the same is true for the Fire Emblem characters.
>>725409234You people who say this shit all the time should try experiencing an actual dating sim at some point.
>>725382558>never ported or made available outside of the 3DSFucking lol, same energy as people that say “n-no Kid Icarus Uprising saved the IP!!!”Great lol, sure do love seeing it on the SwitchOh waitFucking retardLiterally NOBODY cares about FE before 3H except the GBA ones and POR
>>725409354 Hard 2 Blind
>>725409495>except the GBA ones and PORpor is the one that killed the series because nobody cared about it though
>>725404285>He RAN.
>>725409605Just push through it, it gets way better after the pirates.
>>725409495PoR bombed retard.And yes KI: U is beloved otherwise you wouldn't have people still asking for a port till this day 1/10 bait. Do better
>>725409708And even THAT gets gets gets On on onSwitch switch SwitchBefore (that nigga say oh looooord)Before awakening (yes child, yes child)
Why did he do it?
>>725409379The Smash spam only started after Awakening was already popular and sold well.
>>725409867Are you ok?
>>725410370Fire Emblem is NOT popular enough to warrant all the characters they have. You think it really warrants Nintendo giving them more representatives than Mario?What makes it worse is that a lot of Fire Emblem characters are sword wielders that play similarly. People shit on Piranha Plant but at least he had a unique moveset which is probably what justified it's inclusion to the dev team.
>>725410407Huh?
>>725410747Read >>725384938 there's a key detail in there.>immediately boosted Fire Emblem's profile from D-list franchise to Iwata himself mentioning it as upgraded to major franchise status in financial reportsWhen Awakening did way better than expected, Nintendo noticed and started striking while the iron was hot. Which is why more and more Smash representation for the series started happening. It doesn't matter that it still wasn't as popular as Mario or Zelda, the point was that it was GROWING and that's the reason why Smash continued getting FE characters.
>>725383360Seth go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>725408540Chain attack is great, yes. Chain guard is a mess and should not come back. If they want to give clerics a buff they can make them do a healing chain attack on adjacent allies after they get hit for 10% HP or something.
>game turns you into a furry
>>725412128>bottomless with massive bush as the only thing covering her genitalscan't believe they got away with this design.
>>725412128>>725412545Panne cute
>>725412670honestly always thought the way her ears and hair were interwoven was really weird. Didn't even realize she was supposed to be a rabbit for the longest time, thought she was a Rat Laguz.
>>725412128Awakening doesn't get enough credit for fixing the furries as units simply by turning them into a manakete spinoff class and giving them the anti-beast (mount) niche.
>>725413174that's because they didn't "fix" them, they just made them boring.
>>725382558Tharja
>>725413174They kinda still suck because they have infantry movement and are 1-range locked, which is the bigger issue.
>>725413256>made them boringNo, that was Tellius.
I'm a huge shipfag. Can I play XB2 and XB3 without XB1? I heard XB1 cucks the cuter girl so I'm a little irritated into not playing it. Do I need to play X?
>>725413465Tellius beasts were a complete mess, but at least they were trying something new. making them "cavalry with no weapon triangle and shit movement" wasn't exactly an interesting direction to go.
>>725413489??
>>725413369Panne admittedly does still suffer since she's not good enough to compete with all the broken shit you can pull off in Awakening, but the exact same formula worked perfectly for the Fates furries. People actually use the werewolves and the kitsunes regularly there due to massive nerfs to the op strats in Awakening.
>>725410747The funny thing about this is if you ask any ACTUAL smash player and not just stream monsters who spend all day on twitter they enjoy playing as and playing against the Fire Emblems more than the scrimblo bimblos.
>>725413338wasn't she a shit character and a whore in game? shes just bait for coomers that didn't actually play the game
>>725413489wrong thread xenofag
>>725413465I don't like laguz units but the last thing I'd call them is boring.
>>725413862no? you've been on /v/ too long my friend. Tharja is a classic tsundere who spends all day helping people while pretending she doesn't like people. the worst thing she does in her supports is curse frederick so he can't see her so that he'll stop making her exercise, which causes him to get hurt and she feels really bad about it. If you mean as a unit she's broken because Awakening Nosferatu is hilariously broken, although that's more of a function of her class than her as a unit.
People sure hate that schizo alearfag lmao
>>725409605You have brain damage bro
>>725413756>People actually use the werewolves and the kitsunes regularlyNot really. There's not a strong case for using Keaton in Conquest other than to get his nut off for Velouria, who people usually reclass (and I think is pretty overrated herself).
This is the best Fire Emblem could do, lmao.
>>725403646Only Smash autists when they're not busy molesting real life children. Everyone else is neutral on it or don't know what it is beyond "anime sword game"
>>725414260Fire Emblem is overhyped by the fans but in the big picture it's still nothing.
>>725414319You're nothing
>>725414260kwab lynshitters
>>725406829His old let's play was on Maniac. He raged the whole time and really struggled. I don't know if he ever did an actual Ironman though
Engaygies are irrelevant.
The real world doesn't care about all the RPG maker shit /v/ fawns over
>>725414319You're live rent free on these faggots FE shitters.
>>725414260>>725414550You're not gonna get a bunch of FE fags to all rally around one character like most of these other fanbases can. And that's if half of us even cared about this shit in the first place.
>>725408449The stats are a fair trade off for hurting your overall action economy and it's a godsend in Lunatic where speed thresholds can be much tougher to meet in general. It's something that gives a lot of advantages, but you almost never want your whole army constantly using it and there are trade-offs, which is a pretty healthy place for it to be.
>>725414550what the fuck are you even linking here? some reddit ranking list or something?
>>725414682Touhoufags can, but you queers are too autistic.
>>725414682This. Everyone has their own FE waifu. The only reason Bernie qualified years ago was because berniebro was a meme
>>725414791I didn't even vote in this because I don't care lol. If I did I'd probably have voted for Elise or something, certainly not Lyn.
>>725414791Who gives a shit
>>725414260>>725414550>Marianne got 42Better than I expected.
>>725414191you can't prove that
>>725414319They hated because he told the truth
>>725414953Too scared of hard 5?
>>725414162huh? what does her character have to do with /v/... if anything your coomer brain is blinding you to how shitty of a person she is, so my original statement holds true.
>>725410024His sister did all the actual ruling for basically the first 20 years of his life. He's handsome and strong and mostly went around stomping bandits into the dirt. He's a hero but any problem he encountered he could solve it easily just by smashing it and not thinking. The Robin support taught him that if he wants to woo the woman of his dreams he'll need to be a little more tactful so of course he's awkward and inexperienced.
>tharja is a shitty person>some of her supports are about helping people with hexesNTA but you are a faggot.
Retard
>>725415014>shittyShe's literally one of the nicest girls in the game you dumbassNTA btw. You didn't play the game
>>725414953Too be fair, the pirate bosses are annoying af no matter what difficulty you're on (except normal I guess)
>>725414143I would. Managing the bars is about as interesting as watching paint dry.>>725414143I can agree with this.
>>725414791I think you're taking this shit way too seriously
>>725410747>What makes it worse is that a lot of Fire Emblem characters are sword wielders that play similarly.They really actually don't though.Marth and Lucina are just general swordies, all-rounders.Roy and Chrom are rush-down charactersIke and Byleth are slow as fuck and use large hitboxes to deny the opponent stage presence.Robin is a trapper with a weapon durability gimmick.Corrin is weird, she's a swordie but she also has a lot of weird mobility mixups and a bunch of weird moves that don't feel very swordie.
Which Fire Emblem post Awakening do you guys recommend emulating?
>>725415424Fates Conquest
>>725415424Andaron Saga
>>725415424SoV if you have a dildo shove up to your own ass.
>>725387052Get the Archanaea remakes out of the left side. FE12 is where the rot set in.
>>725414550she's still getting an alt
>>725414990Hard 5 Blind sounds awful though, isn't that one of the harder gimmick difficulties in FE?>>725415182Going to feed all my kills to Navarre, Barst, Merric, and Caeda
>>725415575>gachafaggotryIs this supposed to be a win?How pathetic.
>>725415424SoV
>>725414769>Newfag reveals himself
>>725415424>Fates ConquestGood game that stands alone compared to any other game in the franchise. Very good gameplay and infinitely replayable. Terrible story.>Fates BirthrightHas the Fates systems improvements but in a similar gameplay progression as Sacred Stones or Awakening. Terrible story. >Fates RevelationUnfinished. Not even the Fates systems could salvage such a dogshit entry. The story is still terrible but the gameplay is unbalanced and the maps are frustrating due to lack of polish.>EchoesExcellent looking game, sounds good, full voice acting, good dialogue. The gameplay is braindead simple and unpolished due to being minimally changed from Gaiden, the black sheep NES game. Still worth playing. >Three HousesWholly unique, excellent story presentation, extremely deep in its characterization and worldbuilding compared to any other game in the franchise. The gameplay is still good and has a lot of unique quirks that make it fun to dig into. Unit progression is also fun to tinker with. I'm not sure how well it emulates. >EngageThe most like Awakening but in all the bad ways. The gameplay is good in theory but falls apart when you look at it too hard. The story and presentation are the worst the franchise will hopefully ever see. It emulates well but that's not a recommendation. Play it when you run out of other games to play.
>>725415628Navarre is so shit on hard mode but be my guest.
>3hrt>good gameplayStopped reading there.
>>725416026>Unit progression is also fun to tinker withWould be if it didn't take forever. The other day I felt like trying to make a busted Silas in Conquest and got to ch 20 in like 3 days just playing after work. Trying to do the equivalent to this in 3H would have taken me weeks.
>>725413174Awakening laid the groundwork, but Taguel is really shitty until Fates came in with its takes on them and Beaststone/Beastrune/Beaststone+
>>725416094It's better than the GBA games and I'd argue it's better than FE9 as well. System depth carries it hard. It's one of the only games that has great bosses through monster units. If it had more good maps instead of being passable but uneventful across the board in its map design I'd say it's one of the best in the series but games with better map design still win.
>3H>The gameplay is still good
>>725416038Maybe on Hard 5 but he's based so I gotta use him, he's like if Lon qu were actually cool
>>725416384Depiction of the average Three Houses hater when asked to come up with something beyond "3HRT"
>>725416492I hope he gets str screwed faggot
>3HRTs when you asked them if they enjoyed their garbage paralogues after many seasons of monasteries.
>>725415902been here since 2007, sorry i don't recognize your faggot poll.
>>725416354>system depth>i.e., spam broken gambits, deathblow wyverns, and warp cheese
>>725382558Awakening is a very well presented game. the controls are good, the sound effects, the OST, the crisp and clear high quality character portraits, the dub is good, the 3d chibi models are serviceable, the maps convey what the area looks like and the 3d battle animations show it off more clearly.It's satisfying to look at and play when the game's shortcomings aren't rearing their head.
Three Houses haters sure are weird. Not a good look.
This thread was semi-comfy and then gamewars fags showed up to ruin it as usual.
>>725416912They're Awakening fans who feel like they've been betrayed.
>>725416986Retard
>Engage>The gameplay is good in theory but falls apart when you look at it too hard>3H?>Perfect just the way it is :)
>>725382558>Fire Emblem >IconicLol lmao even? I mean maybe in Japan but definitely not in the West
>>725416492Navarre is the least cool Navarre imo
>>725416986You can just ignore them. Every post praising Three Houses will get one reply going "ACTUALLY THREE HOUSES RAPED MY MOTHER FUCK YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTERD" But it's obviously one angry schizo. This was exactly how thre threads were when Conquest came out incidentally but with Conquest it was the entire internet that was like that.
>>725417112lol even Dragon quest is more beloved in japan.
>>725413369>1-range lockedIt's kinda funny that they are, but the manaketes aren't. They also come with non-furry reclass options which are typically considered better and allow for 1-2 range access, like they were encouraging you to get them off the beast class.
>>725416857continued:what I'm getting at, is that it's not so much that it's a good tactical game, it's gameplay is rather average and it's story too, but everything else is carrying the gameplay and story on it's back like an action movie hero/game character.Many such cases.Casuals and newfags are easily self tricked into believing that if all the other things besides gameplay and story are good and high quality, that there is no way that the the most important parts of an RPG (or any other genre of game), the gameplay and story, could be bad.
>>725383049>>725383104Mark is the best Avatar because he’s not as present as all the other ones
>>725382558So iconic that oldfags are still crying on how they ruined their secret club.
>>725382558Eugenics. and >>725382723Fateswakening are the only srpgs in existence where you can pair up your units and train their children to deploy them as supersoldiers. I dont understand why no other game does this, looking at Unicorn overlord's success there's clearly a demand for it
>>725417204>They also come with non-furry reclass options which are typically considered better and allow for 1-2 range accessHonestly Keaton's heart seal reclass is probably worse. Fighter still doesn't have good 1-2 range, so I think I'd take the better stats and beast-effectiveness from wolf. Velouria at least gets the benefit of having another option available to her from her mom.
Child unit implied sex.
>>725417267I thought it was really funny when reading the CZN drama that gachafags want their MC to be the center in the universe and dicksucked by everyone while a lot of FE fans complain about that very thing. Gachafags would kill to have our writers.
>>725417456Stop being a bigot you dumb chud.
>>725383994Another to keep in mind is it and most modern Fire Emblem games have the luxury of being featured in Nintendo Directs which bring them into the discussion sphere and public conscious, I think that’s also part of what saved Fire Emblem too, not just Awakening alone
>>725416760The paralouges are often the best missions.
>>725417456>Unicorn overlord's successUO didn't do THAT well.
>>725417532>Gachafags would kill to have our writers.Yeah no you are legit stupid like corrin, even more.
>>725417159Fates was steeped in culture war shit flinging due to the localization.
>>725382889This. I don't know how or why this game sold so well. Must have been marketing.
Which child units are good in conquest? I've barely used most of them.
>>725417593say that after playing manuela's paralogue you inbred dishonest fag
>>725384306>the game is recognizable as it's the first game that helped revitalize the series. How badly it fucked up the series with its new mechanics is debatable, but it certainly brought in a new and larger audience.All for better or worse
>>725417431I'm glad fe is so popular now, we don't have to worry about the series dying anoymore.I just think awakening is a shit game. Also awakeningbabbies were annoying af during the 3ds era, worst fanbase by far.
>>725387426I even consider Lyn the Marth of Western FE
>>725383049No, you idiot child. Awakening, Fates, and Engage are just shit. They were written by a retarded woman.
>>725417802and here is your prize, you dumbass :)
>>725382558Instead of most SRPGs that are just about big sword fights, it was about the characters
>>725417817Reading the interviews for Awakening and how IS shaped the game around her stupidity is always a good way to give yourself an aneurysm.
>>725417840I'm more concerned that the Dimitri clone is a vampire this time. A street urchin looking dirty isn't too concerning.
>>725417871>pissing and shitting over 18 results on the archivearchive diggers are mentally ill
>>725417925Ironically she would use healers on ninja rape cave, unlike you idiots.
>>725417646Fates's threads were so bad i stopped coming to /v/ threads for any upcoming game for years because they made me realize nothing ruins a game you're looking forward to like being part of a community obsessed with nitpicking every little thing. (which is every community nowadays).
>>725417698That one was fun figuring out how best to utilize the range and movement available to me to get to her quickly.
>>725391762I’m shocked the last remake they did is almost a decade old, unless you count that shitty Switch FE1 localization
>>725417667They can all be good depending on skill inheritance and parentage, but the standouts I would say are probably >OpheliaPair Odin with Elise or Nyx and she's a nuke. The fact that Odin passes down samurai means she has access to some really powerful skills like vantage and Life and Death.>SoleilInnate access to ninja (which is rare in Conquest) and usually very good stats.>VelouriaMonstrously high stats, but with the tradeoff of having a questionably useful base class for the late-game.I also personally really like Percy from Effie. He's not as much of a juggernaut, but you can get him super early and he's a really solid wyvern lord for the entire game.
take you pills
>>725417840>my reward is another good game after I enjoyed fates, 3 houses, echoes and engageWow thanks
>>725382558Being shit
>>725417986The same thing is happening to me with Age of Imprisonment threads right now.
>>725418000>needs wyvern ridersyou are a shitter and a meta faggot.
>>725417473That's cool and all, anon, but I was talking about the Awakening beasts.
>Still crying about FatesIt was a bad game btw
engage pussy > 3hrt "pussy"
>Still crying when someone shits on 3HRTkeep slurping that treehouse cock anons
>>725393925It was a very tragic loss, giving Witches Teleport was a mistake, he even kept on saying Alm was the best MC unit, even better than Sigurd which I found absurd. At least Celica didn’t die despite how much he kept pointing out her being fragile
we got sextrinne
>>725415119>>725415180>doesn't know she tries to cheat on her spouse, actually does because just the attempt is the same as cheating in the real world (you wouldn't know)>doesn't know she stalks people that aren't her spouse>doesn't know she abuses daughter to the point of mindbreaking herlol no you didn't play the game, coom brain>she's nice to some peoplehow much of a giga autist are you if you think that means anything or is an excuse for certain behavior, serial killers also come off as extremely nice and charismatic to most people.who gives a fuck about her anyway? all the FE games are full of shallow characters and people play for the fun of the game, not the shitty dialogue
Lissa
>>725417939look forward to your 3rd annual 'posted it again' award you retarded faggot
>>725393925How Almshitters will recover from this.
>>725417473Keaton being a prime backpack for Camilla makes Velouria a busted unit.
>>725418252not helping your case at all
>>725418216Can't really call it tragic when he lost everyone else by just playing like a retard.It was gonna happen sooner or later.
>>725418216Witches having a teleport isn't as big of a fuck you as people who haven't played Gaiden think it is. They have shit stats and absolutely braindead AI. Yeah, it's unlucky that they targeted Alm but if Egg wasn't a moron, Alm wouldn't have been in killing threshold in the first place.
>>725417936I wish he was a Dimitri clone. Instead he's Jeritza again, that chunni faggot.
>>725418232>Let me just bring up headcanonLol. Okay retard
>>725396482>I need my literal who character to be popular in an anonymous imageboard full of strangers
>>725418080>chapter requires X classIs this supposed to be a bad thing?
>>725418232>all the FE games are full of shallow characters and people play for the fun of the game, not the shitty dialogue>Posts a 3H character>A game that enjoyed solely because of the characters and story because the actual gameplay is fucking bad compared to most FE games outside of actual dogshit tier games like GaidenYour self awareness is lacking young zoomer
>>725418383Yeah, I never had much trouble with them in either Gaiden or Echoes. Helps that their spells tend to be weak as shit.
>>725402402>Baka Retard knows how to shout Slurs but can’t even do a simple google on a game translation >>725403104>You want FE threads to exist on /v/? And get banned on sight like fuckiung pragmata ones eventually? Stop being a fucking retard
>>725418663"shallow character" is usually a massive brainlet take, as it implies people actually want more from their chess pieces than enough flavor to make you like one piece more than another.
>>725405964>>725406146>>725406618>>725406829He was also thinking about mixing up the order of the games to keep it fresh because I’m sure a lot of viewers don’t wanna sit through FE1 a billion times.
>>725382723canon btw
why do people keep calling 3h ugly?
>>725418926He'll never win but I might watch if he did that. I have zero interest in watching him play FE1 and 2
>>725407962I miss Rescue
>>725418926The whole idea was retarded in the first place, I don't know what he was thinking.
>what's 2+2? and don't say 4, give me a REAL answer
>FE fags >think at allyou are very funny
>>725382558the box art in and of itself is iconic. seriously gotta be top 10 box arts of all time
>>725418663>>725418816ad hominem about unrelated shit, so you guys don't actually have anything to say about tharja? the only reason im still posting here is cause people got butthurt that i called her a shitty person (objectively true)>>725418504what the actual fuck do you really need me to spoon feed you the dialogue? really? will that change your mind or will you just move the goalpost? jesus fucking christ people on /v/ are insufferable
>>725419115I don't like the majority of Kozaki's work on FE but he's still a great artist.
>>725418973>tanned FRobinHnng.
>>725409234Fire Emblem sacrificed Personality for Popularity Notice how most modern games feature an Avatar that’s supposed to be literally (You) and is integral to the plot of said games. Casual Modes, Marriage, In-Game Rewinding. The list goes on.
it was LITTERALLY the only RPG on the 3ds early librarythat's IT any other reason is COPE AND SEETHIGN
>>725419302Byleth isn't supposed to be you. You just pick their sex and dialogue choices.
>>725409379I love F-Zero but if it ended up getting an Awakening moment and then suddenly ended up getting 8 characters in Smash I’d probably be mad too especially if half of them Captain Falcon.
>personalitywhat personality? your knighthoods and sorrows of common man you faggot?
>>725419484Not true, SMTIV was out too.
>>725419635>Yes>Yes>Yeshaha that's my teacher
>>725419614Why are you like this?
>>725419484people say Fortune’s Weave is gonna flop even though it’s launching in pretty much the same market situation…
>>725419484this but golden sun on the gba
>>725382558>your best friend's daughter goes to the past to fuck youi ain't gonna lie, that was kinda insane.
>>725419635Literally me
>>725419302Awakening was a new personality unique to that era. The Marvelization era. The "we get shit done but we have fun around here" era where every story was half parody and no one could be fucking sincere. >>725419683SMTIV came out a little later that year. I know because I picked up a 3DS for both and got the eshop deal where one got a discount if you bought the other. It's amazing I didn't throw my 3DS into a dumpster after those two games but the hardware was so nice and the side games were so good that I ended up loving the platform despite both of my favorite franchises taking a nosedive.
>>725418995Same bro, same. I was actually hopeful that Engage brought it back when I saw the BLD stat was back.
>>725419635>here’s your literal Japanese translation bro
>>725419635Yes.
SMTIV was alright faggot at least the plot is more passable than 4A.
>>725409495I was remaking a Nintendo Franchise Tier List at the request of an anon and I struggled with which of the Nintendo Franchises fits the Sloth Deadly Sin, so I just settled on Kid Icarus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯There were other options too like Advance Wars which just deserved to be in its own “cursed” tier. Mario & Luigi which got Brothership last year, Donkey Kong but we got Banaza so it’s free of any sin, Rhythm Heaven but we’re getting Groovy next year, and Legendary Starfy. And Mother/Earthbound but that’s a finished series so it goes in “finished” tier
>>725419878>despite both of my favorite franchises taking a nosediveThey were both followed by KINO>Fates Conquest>SMTIV:A
>>725419998FE came back eventually but SMT is pretty much dead to me. An SMT game can't tank a bad story as well as FE.
>>725419998Funny how similar Awakening is to IV and Fates is to IVA
>>725410747>Fire Emblem is NOT popular enough to warrant all the characters they have.Fire Emblem fans are too prideful anon, they’ll deny this to hell and back. But yeah I do agree in a WESTERN CONTEXT, Fire Emblem isn’t popular enough to warrant 8 characters.
>>725419171You're too retarded to argue with so yes. I'm insulting you. Deal with it.
>>725419171>really? will that change your mind or will you just move the goalpost? jesus fucking christ people on /v/ are insufferable>I-I CAN POST THE DIALOG WHENEVER I WANT ABLOO ABLOOO ABLOOOOOOOOOOMan shut the fuck up already and stop seething over a character who's been popular since the fucking release of the game over 10 years ago you fucking troglodyte. >B-BUT NIGGA I DON'T CARE
>>725414319They hated you because you spoke the truth
Smash rosterfagging is the same shit as gachaslop autism about favoritism, just for different series.
It was actually good. That's it.Look at the thread and you'll notice all the seething and salt comes from tellius and jugdral fans because "Awakening did it better". 10 years later and they're still mad about it
>>725382558terminator 2 with waifus, how could it fail?
>>>/vg/
>>725415352The Pokémon cast are arguably more visually distinct than Fire Emblem’s cast
>>725420707Link 5 posts that are seething over Awakening You have 5 minutes
More like you ripped off Cell arc you dumb FE mutts.
>>725420913Since when can Robin become a super saiyan?
>>725417163When has Fire Emblem ever has its own Compilation/Collection of Games?Even Bubsy got a Collection
>>725410024
>>725417431
>>725420913
>>725420948The moment he gets his hands on a second seal and reclasses to sorcerer
>>725406621>complete Battle Before Dawn
>>725420913Sun Wukong ripoff lol
>>7254178403 Houses being the best selling means it could very well be the franchise’s whole identity moving forward. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up for them to decide.
Notice how all the FE:A haters are unhinged schizos
>>725418275I love how Celica magically telepathically calls out Alm for dying lmfaooo
>>725383049Shallow???Play FE4 it's better waifusim.
>>725418663All Sothis posters deserve the side-eye
>>725421310I'm not a schizo I just think the game really fails to deliver on what I want out of an FE game, launched the career of a bad writer, and is mostly unsatisfying from a gameplay standpoint once you get past the casual appeal.
>>725421310I hate their retarded fans, the game is a shitty grindfest where chrom and robin solos everything.
>>725419020Speak for yourself mate
I hope we get another trailer soon
>>725421579That's fair then. It's not perfect and from a gameplay view it's a extremely flawed game that lacks any flavor But there's a difference "I don't like it" and "I will personally make up shit that doesn't even happen in the game to find a reason to hate it more" That's schizo behaviour.
>>725421310I hate Awakening, it's my least favorite FE, but I barely ever bring it up in these threads. Why would I waste my time turning into a resident thread schizo when I just wanna comfily discuss FE?
>>725419115I’d take Bad Boxart Mega Man over FE Awakening Boxart and I’m not even kidding
I think Awakening is the one game in the I've gone back to the least. Even Echoes is more interesting in its baffling decisions.
>>725393925This is sad, ig. Anyways, post witches
>>725419520Why do most of the Male playerbase refer to the character as female? :)
>>725383908It will get you into bad habits such as relying on an incredibly overpowered main character to potentially solo stages. Start with one of the GBA ones instead.
>>725421674I'd expect to get more news in February. That's around when the holiday season's rapid fire releases will start wearing off. >>725421717It goes past not having flavor. It has its own flavor but it's the flavor of a 2010s half parody soft reboot. The total lack of sincerity really amplifies how bad I think it is since it's not just a bad entry in a series I love, it feels like it's mocking that series.
>>725419635>Simple and BriefYeah I’ll definitely take that over long and drawn out chitchat
>>725421919Part of it is that female Byleth is unironically a better choice due to the early Sylvain recruitment, especially in Black Eagles where you can slot him in as a replacement for Caspar who is the worst unit in the game by a mile.
>>725419635This is just that authentic translation you faggots are always crying for. Maybe Treehouse should have punched it up with Marvel quips.
>>725421942>Complains about incredibly overpowered characters that encourage soloing stages>Suggests the GBA games???
>>725421947>The total lack of sincerity really amplifies how bad I think it is since it's not just a bad entry in a series I love, it feels like it's mocking that series.>I will personally make up shit that doesn't even happen in the game to find a reason to hate it moreSo yeah, FE:A haters are unhinged schizos. QED
>>725422060name 1 FE where the first statement doesn't apply
>>725419915>>725422058It's far better than fanfiction, it being a bad support doesn't change that.
>>725421942>incredibly overpowered main character to potentially solo stages.>Suggests GBA FE>When Seth exists
>>725422107Every character is written as a bundle of quirks used for comedy in their support conversations. It's rare to get actually sincere dialogue outside of specific portions of the main story that are later invalidated.
>>725422193That did not start with Awakening anon.
>>725422193Right right, sorry the characters dont talk about death and whatever deep and thought provoking treatise about war you had in mind in their supports, it's all about pies and kyaa hentai jokes.You have to let it go, unhinged schizo. You've wasted 10 years on this pointless rage already
>want to iron man fe game>has big maps>lots of downtime between enemies>have to slowly chip away at enemy formationssigh
>>725422448stop playing FE4
>>725422060>>725422183Those aren't main characters and they fall off in the endgame, they're an early game crutch. Meanwhile Awakening starts okay but by halfway through the game your Robin is just clearing maps by himself, it's boring as shit.
>>725422448Stop playing horse emblem and pick literally any other game.
>>725422515>Seth>Falls offlol
>>725422397Not him, but it's really hard to see you as the reasonable person in this exchange, when anon is calmly explaining his issue with Awakening's writing, and you're accusing him of being psychotic for not being so big on teen anime humor.
>>725422123Conquest doesn't encourage it, despite it still being possible*. That being said, practically every FE is guilty of juggernauting being a op strat, which is why I made fun of anon for thinking otherwise for GBA emblem, which is notoriously easy to juggernaut.>*If you skip ch10 and abuse degenerate mechanics to buff your unit way past what's expected
>>725422550Yeah Sacred Stones is way too easy, but still a better entry point than Awakening IMO
>>725382558>swan song fan service game celebrating the entire series up to that point>return of cool mechanics such as skills/eugenics, addition of pair up, voice acting, and colorful art designs all welcome after the drab and simple archanea remakes>the fan base was overall less sensitive to its abhorrent map design and gameplay balance at the time, my impression at least was that the tactical acumen of the community wasn't as developed back then>sharp increase in waifufag pandering Can't stand to play it now but on release it was my favorite game of all time.
This game doesn't have feet, it's trash
>>725422515>Rutger/FE7 Marcus>Falls off(lol
Now how much longer til localization fuckery ends?
>>725422515FE7 Marcus and Seth don't fall off. They're the best units in their games because they start strong and stay strong. Marcus is still stronger than the unpromoted cavaliers when they promote, and they're some of the better units in FE7. In FE8 there's zero competition.
>>725422583the only FEs where you can ACTUALLY (mostly) just use one unit to beat everything are FE1, FE4, FE8, and awakening. period. anything else is dishonest sensationalism.
>>725422736>FE1,Name one unit besides Marth who can solo FE1
>>725422643Rutger does fall off if you're retarded enough to castrate his exp gain by promoting at 10. Like, I understand not going for 20/20 but 10 is almost always too early.
>>725422576It's always been like this. People see disagreements as rage.
>>725422659Look at this anon, he still has hope that treehouse will fuck off.
>>725422772Either Christmas cav, they can crump medeus with max stats and infinite gradivus (since you're not getting falchion). This is assuming you don't count the need for Marth to seize.
>>725422576Arguing every support in the game is nothing but teen anime humor is one of those "make shit up to be mad about" unhinged schizo behaviors. Im sure you, a reasonable and completely different anon (wink wink) would agree that there are just as many, if not more supports that actually are deep and explore the characters more like Henry-Panne, Gaius-Maribelle, Lonqu-Cherche, Harvest scramble Owain-Inigo, all the future past interactions and even Chrom-Male Robin
>>725382558>both characters are using the Falchionhow was the "twist' not immediately apparent?
>>725422583Conquest hugely incentivizes juggernauting. Juggernauting is not soloing. The best way to play the game is to juice up like two or three pairs of units and roll over everything with them, with the rest of your team on support duty.That said, I don't know why RETARDS keep using this as a cudgel in their argument against the entire series. Yes, every Fire Emblem permits and incentivizes some degree of juggernauting, that's just what its combat mechanics tend to lean towards when you put them in the context of an enemy phase. If you didn't like it, you wouldn't be here complaining, addicted faggots.Awakening balance is still dogshit
>>725422736Marcus rips FE7 into pieces. He's one of the best juggernaut units in the series. Just because he hands off the final chapter to Athos doesn't mean his contribution is anything but insane.
>someone mentions minor grievance with FE:A>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE MY FAVORITE GAME OR I WILL TAKE IT AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON MY HONOR AS I BASE MY ENTIRE WORTH ON MY TASTE IN VIDEO GAMES
>>725423006Who are you quoting schizo?
>>725422736Massive cope post kek. The most reliable strategy in practically every game is dumping all your resources into your blatantly op unit.
>>725423037>thinks im quoting someonewho is the schizo now?
>>725422905>actually playing the "you're actually the guy I've been arguing with" card nowBut you're totally a reasonable person and definitely not mad someone criticized your favorite video game
>>725422934arguably nobody really solos conquest because even the best units have a backpack here and there.
>>725422550>>725422689>SethACCCCKKK!
>>725423145>Sandbags
>>725423145If your Seth is ever in danger of getting killed you either threw him into a horseslayer or did the retarded thing "enlightened" players said to do back in the early 2000s which was bench him until your other units catch up.
>>725423063So you're just publicly bitching about your boogeyman in your head? That's even more schizo than strawmanning some anon that you're refusing to reply directly to.
>awakening balance is dogshit Don't you say genius.
>>725423098Eh, that's a technicality, it's just how Fateswakening works. No one sees the stat buttslut as a real unit, more like a necessity.
>>725422974no one's saying marcus isn't good, but he does fall off lategame a lot harder than someone like seth does because his speed is shit and multiple units do genuinely surpass him in combat by the mid-lategame. if you think this isn't true, I'd like to see you post a clear of BBD and CoD where you use marcus and nothing else.
>>725422643>>725422689>>725422974>MarcusACCCCCCCCKKKKK!
do you guys actually like Fire Emblem as a series or do you guys just like the one game you spent your best years in
>>725423563I hate FE.
>>725422934The problem with Awakening really isn't that juggernauting is strong. It's that any other strategy is discouraged. You used a healer? Here comes Falcon Knight reinforcements with a threat range of half the map to instantly vaporize her. Brought a knight? Too slow, here comes the Valkyries teleporting in from nowhere to take him to the afterlife. It's obnoxious.
who do you guys give Camilla to fuck
>>725423563I hate video games
>>725423612>any other strategy is discouragedYour skill issue is showing
>>725423612Yeah this is especially the case on lunatic where no one except chrom and Robin (really just the latter using the former as a backpack) can scale fast enough to deal with enemy stat bloat so it's a grueling ordeal to do anything except solo.
>>725423634Usually Laslow or Keaton
>>725423685He's right though. Awakening basically only makes you play one way only or you can eat shit.
>>725423634Pretty sure shes good for almost anyone.Any physical kid ends up pretty strong with her as their mum.
>>725423563I like all the games(to an extent) but the fandom love being dishonest over their favorite/least favorite
>>725423634Corrin
>>725423563I hate SCHIZOS SCHIZOS THEY ARE EVERYWHERE I HATE THEM ALL I SEE THE SCHIZOS EVERYWHERE I GO
>>725423445Marcus is one of the better units in BBD and CoD since he has higher res than most units and higher res than any of the units with high movement outside of the pegs. He uses the speedwings better than other units as well. Marcus gets Harken to tag team the rest of the game right before BBD which makes the chapters where you're encouraged to split up into multiple lanes of the map easier.
>>725423612Awakening stats and growths are too high - on player and enemy side - and ironically base stats specifically are too low on player side. It has some THE shittiest early recruits in series history. Sully and Stahl's stats are on par with Sain and Kent's, despite the fact that on the highest difficulty, lategame enemies have stats into the 40s. Nominally pair up, a high median growth rate, and a generous exp floor of 8 (12 with Veteran) are supposed to compensate for this, but they really don't on Lunatic. Everyone is prohibitively dogshit long term because, for each additional unit you field, that's one more very hungry mouth to feed. That's the real source of the Chrobin meme, it's just easy to supercharge that specific pair of units due to a variety of factors mostly related to Robin being broken.They pandered to growth-loving, grinding, RPG brainrotted casuals big time and the result is predictable. Thankfully in Fates they saw their mistake and course corrected before the series went full Disgaea.
>>725418978>designs that somehow manage to capture the worst aspects of anime battle high school and v-tuber design sensibilities>artist is legitimately bad>nonsensical designs. Edelgard is wearing a crop jacket that somehow has it's collar buttoned up but has it's cleavage exposed, onesie, bright red tights, and heel booties in a medieval setting>3D graphics on par with the ps1Legitimately just a hideous game and outside of a few design that are sexy (still poorly designed btw) every design is fucking abysmal.
>>725397009I got it in my head that Cherche had a huge ass and I've thought it for over 10 years
>>725423685Sure, early game there are a couple spots where you do want more characters, I beat the game with both juggernauting and a balanced team on Lunatic. And the problem with a balanced team, your staffbot is basically instantly dead if anything looks at them because you don't want them paired up. They don't get the giga stats. Same deal with Olivia. In a super optimized run, where you want to 1 turn a lot of maps, yeah they're good. But if you don't play that way, if you're going in blind, they're godawful because of the atrocious reinforcements combined with sky high stats. That's the issue, the stupid ass reinforcements. Everything else about Awakening might be forgivable if it wasn't for that garbage.
>>725423634Beruka until Keaton shows up to buff her strength and defense. This turns Velouria into an extremely good late game child recruit.
People always mention it being a dating sim but the 'mechanics' if you can even call them that were literally just stand two units next to each other and occasionally you get some dialogue scenes.
>>725424172>Keaton shows up to buff her strength and defenseKeaton doesn't give like any defense until A or something. He gives strength and speed
>>725423445There's an anon who pulled it off a while back, but I can't find the thread. This eceleb also made it past BBD and only got stuck on CoD because he refused to use even Merlinus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBemECd4DhE
>>725424215>FEfags who never played a real dating sim or even something like Sakura wars doesn't know what a real dating sim Shocker
>>725424010again, my point is not that marcus isn't good... it's that there's no such thing as a feasible marcus solo that BTFOs every map with ease. could you force one if you really tried? maybe, but I only care about games where doing this or something approximate to it is the straight up easiest and best way to play the game. every FE other than the ones I mentioned encourage diversifying your team to at least some degree
>>725421869Yeah awakening is the one game I cant see myself ever going back to.At least games like echoes have weird gimmicks that make the game unique. Awakening is just normal fe except bad.
>>725424015Excellent post. Sums up the fake difficulty issue better than I could. >>725424240He's a giant shot of strength and speed but his defense buff is +2 at S rank. There aren't any wasted stats unlike other male pair ups like Benny having a point of skill in an otherwise rock solid str/def.
I find it funny that back when awakening came out people were super autistic about making optimal eugenics pairings but really the best way to play is to just ignore all that and Robin solo.
>>725424132That's fair, Awakening reinforcements are indeed cancer which punishes players for not maintaining a formation 24/7 if they don't know about them. I still would say that soloing because you can't think of any other solution is a skill issue though, since it's an admission that you can't pull off the S and have to abuse the RPG to beat the SRPG.
>>725424481I kind of prefer Laslow and Silas in a way because they can also boost her movement.
>>725422193you dont care when old games do it
>>725424596Balanced teams aren't really the worst when you do remember the reinforcement spawns, hell it gets pretty easy after a certain point. I just despise those reinforcements and that's definitely the number one reason people flock to that style of play in Awakening.
Enlightement is when you realize that Pieri is the peak of FE characterization.
Most people say Awakening has garbage maps, and I don't disagree with that, but Tiki's paralogue is absolute kino that filters brainlets hard.
>>725424302You're getting too focused on specific solo run rules. Marcus is good enough to solo everything while continuing to be a combat unit in the late game. He even recruits his own best duo unit and boss killer in Harken. Between using Marcus and trying to do the same thing with multiple unpromoted units alongside him, it's almost universally better to send in Marcus. >>725424606Hector isn't written purely as a comedic character. Florina is also not entirely comedic. All of her supports other than the one with Hector is about her being a younger sister who isn't able to take charge and is sensitive to other people's troubles. These traits are played for laughs less than they're played seriously.
>>725424883>PieriI like her NANOs in Japanese.
>>725425110>Hector isn't written purely as a comedic character. Florina is also not entirely comedic.neither is 'every character' in nu emblem, let alone most of them. not that you care
>>725425402The format of Awakening's support conversations needing to facilitate any non-Robinxesual pairing led to the terrible writing I'm talking about. Less is more. More is less. The characters that would reasonably have supports in older games are a cut above the pie supports but the characters still aren't interesting due to their place in the world being really shallow since the setting is so shallow. This leaves the "good" supports being okay at best and the rest of them being a meeting of two quirks.
I wish Chrom could've sexed Panne. Would've been really funny.
>>725425638That sure is a lot of words that can be summed up by >OLD GOOD>NEW BAD
Old FE bad New FE bad
>>725425832>It's time for a timeskip, Panne! Have my child and marry me!>No! Get away from me, man spawn!Missed opportunity for forceful taguel repopulation desu.
>>725426126The old format was better in this case, yes. Three Houses was better at giving each unit more supports since every character had a place in the setting and a personal history that felt relevant. Awakening and Fates failed at this and that made most support conversations slice of life comedy skits.
All FE supports are shit
>>725426370Truth nuke
You think Tharja would cuck you if you asked.
>>725426334>Old good>New badTell me what Sain's character is, just for fun
>>725424946>Galeforce Wow you sure showed me stupid tiki fag
>>725426370Constance has great supports.
ENGAGE GOOD
>>725426579That ring looks extremely uncomfortable.
So good that your will return to fodshart and their garbage mechanics lmfao
>>725426370serra has some nice supports
>>725426428I just said a game newer than Awakening did a better job with characters and supports. >SainHe's lecherous and carefree. Most of his supports have him playing the foil to other characters who are more serious. He's the most Awakening-ish character in FE7.
Why do Wolf and Sedger have some of the highest growths in the franchise despite already being promoted?
>>725427000They have terrible stats so the growths exist to make them usable. They're worse than most unpromoted units and this was a Karel style experiment to make them viable.
>>725426878>H-he's Awakening-ishThat can't be right, Virion and Inigo absolutely mog him in character despite having the same gimmick. A direct comparison repeated in duplicata shows that you're full of shit, how curious.
>>725427000who knows
>>725427164>1 level to level up
>>725427000they needed to add a failsafe cheese button for H5 to make sure it's beatable because they didn't playtest it
>>725427159We get it, you played awakening when you were 12. You don't have to defend it with your life
>playing awakening when you're 12:|>playing GBA and looking up supports on the internet when you're 12:O
>>725427301We get it, you played FE7 when you were 12. You don't have to defend it with your life
They've done the "smooth talking womanizer with a heart of gold" character like 10 separate times now and it's been the same thing every time, with a different Wikipedia early life section attached for each one. Sylvain is supposed to be the most "complex" one but no, he's actually just Inigo again, with a last name this time.
>>725427159For a game that's built on support conversations the characters should be able to fill out those supports with better dialogue than what we got in FE7 where the feature was minor. Virion has 14 non-father supports compared to Sain's 7, each of the supports can be filled out up to A rank compared to the hard cap of 5 in FE7, and most of his conversations have S conversations. How does he end up as less of a character than the least interesting character in FE7 with that much dialogue?
>>725427164>210%I wonder if anyone's ever actually seen a +3 there?
>>725427492Statistically, 10% of people should
>>725427492you will if you play karel emblem
>Virion>mog in characterNow that's some exquisite bait.
>>725427465>How does he end up as less of a character than the least interesting character in FE7 with that much dialogue?He doesn't. Virion is a very intresting character and is a prime example of how the support system can give massive depth to even a ch1 archer.
>>725427413Sylvain is just a womanizer when you ignore that deep down he uses women because he believes they're using him to have a crest baby, has major hangups with nobility due to his complicated relationship with his brother and how inheritance turned him into a monster, him being a gifted student who's wasting his talent because he needs glasses and because he believes the world doesn't care what he does as long as he has a crest, and later his issues with loyalty where he realizes he's either made a huge mistake by following his dick or by abandoning his kingdom to fight for the church. But no, he's just Inigo.
>>725427651Virion doesn't even do anything important in Awakening, despite being the lord of an entire country. How can anyone possibly find him "very" interesting? No one has talked about his a character on /v/ in over 5 years probably (lol
>>725427164This was such a strange decision
>>725427736And Inigo blah blah blah Owain support blah blah blah Severa support, blah blah just putting on a smile to be STRONG FOR OTHERS blah blah blah the horrible future I come fromWho cares. Same stupid faggot anime writing.
>Virion doesn't even do anything important in Awakening, despite being the lord of an entire country.its ok when 3H does it btw now let me tell you about how "needs glasses" is an important character trait
>>725427952This is mental illness.
>needs glassesIs that even confirmed in the game, or is it fanfiction?
these niggas act as if 3H molested them
>>725420816I 100% agree with that, yeah. Mechanically the FE fighters are fine, but in regards to what they represent they're all so fucking samey. Give me Anna, give me Edelgard, give me fucking Nameless Bandit I don't give a shit, no more Marth character archetypes and fuck off with Byleth.
>>725427978I'm making fan of Sylvain above bro. You're all just playing favorites, in reality. You can dig through any character's supports and find some lameass justification for their quirk, I did it at one time when I was big on defending Awakening characters. I realized it's all the same shit. Charlotte is a dumb ho with a tacked on back story to justify their ho-ishness.The main difference is the new games have too much of it, there's a major exposure problem these days. Back in Kaga era and GBA, they knew how to shut up, maybe due in part to technological limitations.>>725428083Read Inigo's supports and realize he's just as """deep""" as Sylvain (i.e. post hoc backstory made to explain his character quirk)
backstoryslop is the worst part of modern FE character writing
>>725428193Sylvain doesn't need supports to give you a look into his character thoughbeit. He has a chapter in White Clouds, a paralogue, and monastery dialogue.
>>725428326I prefer having a place in the world instead of needing a specific backstory to color all of their interactions. How they're dealing with the story as it's unfolding is better than the tragic backstory.
>>725428334Inigo has a paralogue, The Future Past DLC, an entire second game of supports, and the Hidden Truths DLC in that second game. It's the same shit, anon. You can enjoy it for what it is but I can't be wowed by this nonsense anymore, they keep doing the same character over and over again, with the thinnest backstory to explain why a guy would want to have sex with lots of women.
Why do these cynical trannies keep coming here? I don't get it. I hated the direction Zelda took after BotW. Guess what I did? I moved on and found something I enjoyed instead.
>>725428507It isn't helping your case that Komuro's husbando has that much extra screen time and still has very little characterization or purpose.
>>725428659Just like Sylvain. Glad we agree.
eternal reminder that the kaga saga method of story based character interaction and progression is a million times better than the support system and has been for over 20 years
>>725428910I agree anon but questioning the ossified, privileged position supporting writing has had in FE character writing for over two decades now is literally outside the Overton window. You can't take away the fanbase's tendies at this point, we're utterly addicted to slop like it's meth.
Bump the fun Fire Emblem thread!
>>725430204Fuck off retard
>>725430219mmmm nyo...
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