The neuroplasticity of my brain has changed. In hindsight Mass effect 3 was quite good except the last 2 hours or sohttps://youtu.be/KGHA9oO1Ybg
>>725459964Nah, it has other problems in tone and writing.
>>725459964no
>>725460547I remember one of the biggest hints that the game was giving up on being a proper RPG was when they removed the "holster" button. Why wouldn't you carry your gun at all times?
>>725459964The game was good, and the ending obliterated the good will 95% of the series run time was building toward.BUT the multiplayer was phenomenal. Having your homie submission net a banshee while you pilot your geth prime to mag dump in her screaming face was peak
>>725459964For a second I thought that was Leon from Resident Evil.Yea ME3 was alright. The shooting was the best of the trilogy.
>>725459964The last 2 hours is the citadel dlc ending
>>725459964It has good aspects to it but it's painfully obvious the writers had no idea how to tie together all the choices you made prior. I think how they shafted the ME2 crew and the Illusive man was worse than the ending.
>>725459964ME3 Vanguard is one of the most fun classes I've ever played.
Nope, not getting out of this chair.
>>725459964It's the bioshock 2 of the franchise. Best gameplay in the franchise with absolutely abysmal everything else.
>>725463259I played the remastered ultra faggot collection or whatever not too long ago and thought 2 actually had noticeably better gameplay.
>>725459964The plot took a nosedive in mass effect 2, but not enough fans realise it because it had an a larger roster of interesting crewmates and more polished gameplay.Mass Effect 2 at its best was a spinoff or an alternative plotline, but at its worst it undoes what Mass Effect 1 built as a plot. Understandable, iirc Drew Karpyshyn left in the middle of Mass Effect 2's production.Mass Effect 3 was doomed to fail because it had rocky foundations thanks to its prequel.
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>>725459964I think combat was improvement from ME2.Otherwise everything else was worse and that's an achievement as ME2 was already a downgrade from ME.
>>725459964ME3's single player sucked and I will never change my mind about that. The multiplayer however was unbelievably kino and I miss it every day (yes I know you can still play it but after around a thousand hours and 13 years it's not the same). My only hope for the series is that the next game has good multiplayer, because it 100% will not have a good single player.
>>725459964The only parts of ME3 that the real fans liked were Rannoch and Tchuanka.
>>725459964mechanically it's the best game in the series.Story wise, it has like 3 different suicide missions worth of follow up. People who say choice didn't matter haven't played the Tuchanka arc
>>725464425How do you sink MMO levels of playtime into a simple 4 person wave co-op?
>>725464516The same way I've sunk similar hours into Vermintide 2 and Helldivers 2. Something about co-op games that reward high skill tingles my brain (VT2 and ME3 moreso than HD2 on that front).
>>725459964Javik completely shitting on Liaras beliefs about the Protheans was the highlight for me. >Cerberus, that black ops group most people don't even believe exists?>Yeah they actually have the largest space fleet in the galaxy
>>725464425>>725464516>>725464664Also for the record that ME3 playtime only counts time you spent in matches and doesn't count time you spend in menus and lobbies. Factoring that in I'd estimate it's probably like ~1100 hours.
>>725463881Better encounter design, with ME3 they designed enemy factions around multiplayer and just plopped them into single player without any further thought. The same issue has plagued every Bioware game since, too.
>>725459964ME3 had fun gameplay byl plot sucked balls.If you removed all the plot and leave just combat then it would be good.Best ME is still ME2, only because you get to kill 300 000 batarians, it's best moment in the series.
>>725464431I don't like how the Rannoch part handled the Geth either, though
Take ME3's core gameplay and give it ME1's level of RPG shenanigans and a story + characters that don't suck. It's a very simple formula, but it's not one that Bioware is capable of following through with.
>>725464178why is it always batarians
>>725465482they're the blacks of the Mass Effect universe
>>725465340Andromeda's gunplay was such a step back it was crazy. I did like the jump packs though
>>725459964The fact that the ending generated the huge controversy and not this fag tells me all I need to know about the fanbase.
Post class
>>725465952Gunplay was never the series' strongpoint. Power combos are the only fun to be had and those are pretty satisfying in Andromeda too.
people thinking the ending is le bad is a surefire way to identify that they are low IQ
>>725466221nothing compares to the Volus VanGOD>>725466391nta, and I agree, but ME3's core movement and shooting was still better than Andromeda's
>>725463991>ME2 ruined the story!No, ME1 ruined the story. I get it, they didn't know they would get funded for a whole trilogy so I understand why they blew their load in the first game but Virgil exposition-dumps every intriguing detail about the Reapers on Ilos. Literally all that's left after that is anticipating the invasion which is why the following two games are mostly padding and making up shit.
Playing a Vanguard with no guns was fun. Just constant slamming into people and doing the nova jump thing followed by slamming into them again and then nova again and so on.
>>725465515so what does that make jacob
>>725467556Honorary human.
>>725467556a NI-
>>725460901>The game was good, and the ending obliterated the good will 95% of the series run time was building toward.Yeah.>>725460901>BUT the multiplayer was phenomenal. Having your homie submission net a banshee while you pilot your geth prime to mag dump in her screaming face was peakYou don't need anyone's help with the Geth Juggernaut unless you're against the Praetorian.
>>725467556A batarian.
>>725467556
>Muh artistic integrity.The last good BioWare game was ME2 and it's a streamlined(read castrated) RPG. BioWare went into a long death spiral with ME3.
>>725459964The gameplay was always good, it's just that me and everybody else fooled ourselves into thinking the game would have an insane scope due to the way it was advertised, even though there was no way they could or would have logically delivered something where you go to each race's planet or w/e
>>725459964no, it was melodramatic slop targeting cod audience i hate geth-quarian resolution with passion
>>725459964Why is Leon Kennedy in Mass Effect?
>Reapers are finally at our doorstep but we gotta fight a terrorist faction for 2/3 of the game and go on dumb little space misadventures while our companions make endless jokes>DLC companion and Marcus Fenix >Rachni plotline completely fucked>that fucking ending and star childI know redditors ate that shit up but I thought /v/ was better.
>>7254721092 is clearly the best one.>ignores the reapers>Liara is barely in it>sex with Tali>ripped out a lot of the RPG bullshit that nobody likes>improved the cover shooting mechanics that everybody likes>MattockI mean, what more could you ask for?
>>725460643Someone literally just added holstering back into the game with a new mod on this N7 day. I just tried it and it works completely smooth like it's still ME1 or ME2. https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/2991
>>725472296>ripped out a lot of the RPG bullshit that nobody likesGod you are such a faggot.
How would you guys rewrite me 3?For starters i would make reapers stronger. Their minions were too weak
It was kino, fighting the cerberus troops is as good as the combat in these games ever got and the multiplayer was fun. I just don't like how melancholic the game is as a whole, ME1/2 are endlessly replayable because they feel like you're having a blast with your homies, in ME3 everyone is always crying and being sentimental with the gay piano music playing in the background.
>>725475474remove the child
>>725475235Nobody likes RPGs except homos.
Hackett: "Why did Cerberus attack Sur'Kesh?"Shepard: "I don't know, but I'm going to find out." No, you won't.Hackett: "Why did Cerberus attack the Citadel?"Shepard: "I don't know, but I'm going to find out." No, you won't.Hackett: "Why did Cerberus attack Benning? That's not their MO."Shepard: "I don't know, but I'm going to find out." No, you won't.
>>725468048>>725476154https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO20rePNlN8&t=298s
>>725465515thats the krogan
>>725475474>remove the kids>have Saren as inner monologue>less cerberus>you know what, why can't we ally with cerberus in first place?>unfuck renegade choices>kill some batarians to make game better>introduce reaper total war later and not in prologue
>>725476196so you're saying you're a homo?
>>725479598I like cover shooters like a dudebro manly man.
>>725479815>cover shooterscan't think of a more homo genreunless you're talking about Rainbow Six Vegas, but you're not
>>725480721>turning Rainbow Six into a tard fps
>>725477780I agree with all of this
>>725480721vegas was kino tho, idgaf
STEVE!!!u sure?
>>725480873thats what they did with siege onward
>>725459964Windows11bros, help me out here. I cannot get this game to work for the life of me. I want to revisit the multi.I have deleted the licenses folder, tried all compatibility modes, used EA App in offline mode, verified integrity, tried alternate launchers, etc. but the game will open in a tiny window for a brief second, then crash and EA App will say "A problem at our end caused the game to fail to start", what the fuck do I do? I even did the refresh app option in EA App hoping it would refresh things to no avail.I just want to be Krogan.
>>725463167>Shepard. You're in my chair.
>>725485886Did you install whatever VCRedist ME3 requires? I'd bet a significant amount of money that EA doesn't include it anymore in order to get people to buy the remake.
>>725485886https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_3>>725486174>remakeWhy can't you people learn what words mean?
>>725466959making the reapers the overarching villains was a mistake.
>>725486256Sorry, you double nigger. I meant>LeGeNdArY eDiTiOnfaggot
>>725486256I tried the MSVC fix on there and it just says this still (but this time in fullscreen)
>>725486398>legendary editionfaggot
>>725486805>nouFellate a shotgun
>>725486398It's still not a remake. Remakes, remasters, and sequels seem to confuse mouth breathers.
>>725487098It does. If you don't refer to something by its super special secret definition they throw a tantrum. Everyone else that's above room temp IQ will know exactly what you mean.
>>725487275Why not just be correct?>everyone knows when I say "should of" that I meant to say "should have," so it's okay to be retarded
>>725459964>Mass effect 3 was quite good except the last 35 hours or softfy
>>725487348Why be a pedantic faggot?>if you aren't extremely specific I don't understand, which means I'm retarded
>>725487784Just be correct. It's not difficult, even though you definitely seem to be struggling with the concept.Say what you mean.
>>725487895>Say what you meanI did.>(You) take cocks in ass and have a brain as smooth as a bowling ball which causes a lack of contextual reasoning.I said it again.
>>725488053Why are you defending being wrong? You can't be American.
>>725459964bullshit, ME3's writing across the board is pretty shit. I noticed straight away how little agency you actually have as shep.>in ME1 and 2, shep typically only speaks a sentence or two after a player input, and rarely speaks without any input at all>in ME3, shep speaks huge amounts without player input, and conversation options going off and speaking for himself without allowing the player to intervene.
>>725488223Why are you defending being anal?
>>725488319actually a lot of those "choices" in ME1 and 2 are the same. They presented the illusion of choice where two of the 3 options say the same thing.ME3 actually does have different dialogue but its locked behind your choices and morality
>>725464425I kneel. (on your neck)
>>725488739why!!!
>>725459964kek I've replayed the trilogy not too long ago and I couldn't even get past the first few missions, the game plays like absolute ass. And I even remember defending it for the gameplay back when it released.
>>725467556A perfect candidate to enter the tube
>>725485886tfw nothing on pcgamingwiki worked
>>725489980Better grab the LE from FatTranny.
>>725489786you weren't even alive when the first game came out
>>725490042LE doesn't have the multi /v/ro.
>>725489786all 3 of the games have bad action.
>>725490158Oh, I thought you were just running through the campaign.
>>725488319Writing is bad except Tuchanka and Rannoch and they included too much auto-dialogue.
>>7254902891 is OK after whatever the fuck they did to the LE version, it's definitely more fun than the original release.2 is the one that I really didn't like back then since it removed most of the RPG stuff but at least shooting is fun and it works.3 just felt much, much more janky to me than I remembered. But maybe it was just my class. I played my original run as a soldier. This time I was a vanguard and that shit was really boring even though it looks impressive. Somewhat.
>>725490158oh I thought you were trying to install leYou probably need to delete ME3, delete the ea app, reinstall the ea app, reinstall me3, make sure you cross reference with steam in the EA app
>>725465136>>Better encounter designAnd level design, which enhances the gameplay above the combos of ME3, making it much more fun and interesting.No Bioware game has achieved those levels of kino gameplay since. Everything has been worse, and getting progressively worse since. Meaning that the precious ME3 combos and wave mechanics don't mean shit in the overall gameplay design. Add to that the best characters and dialogues in the franchise, and it is a no brainer that ME2 is the best in the trilogy.
>>725465253Rannoch was shit, some of the worse level and encounter design in the trilogy, obviously rushed, even worse than Tuchanka, and Tuchanka was not the gameplay highpoint of ME3. Compounded by the fact that you have only the second Reaper fight in the trilogy, which is also the worst fight in the entire trilogy.
>>725465340>ME3's core gameplayCombos, awful level and encounter design? No. ME2's encounter and level design, yes, even the chest high walls, are far superior to ME3's awful everything. The only reason why you like ME3's core gameplay was the 4player ME co-op. The campaign isn't built for that, shouldn't be build for that, and building it for that ruins the fun gameplay, making the SP unplayable.
>>725477759Came here to post this.Although, Krogan>Blacks, but Blacks>Batarians.
>>725467750A Nigerian?
>>725472296>sex with TaliI thought you were listing the good stuff?
>>725475474>How would you guys rewrite me 3?It's been 13 years, bro. It's over. I'm over it. Just move on to something that fixes the shit, rather than find an excuse to go back, to redo the shit I didn't like. I'd rather we skipped ME3 altogether.
>>725492705That's the best stuff with best girl.
>>725475992>fighting the cerberus troops is as good as the combat in these games ever gotWe're at the point of biodrones praising fighting Cerberus. How mind broken did you mother fuckers get?
>>725486791>QUALITY>BIOWARE>PRODUCT
>>725466959ME1 is the story. The other two games are transsexual niggermutt spinoffs
>>725488568>>actually a lot of those "choices" in ME1 and 2 are the sameIt doesn't matter, nigger. There are always small/subtle permutations to all of those choices, and all those get answered, while relatively procuring the same outcome, though not always, and not in the same way. ME3 is "lol fuck yur choices bitch" and goes on without even asking you. Go suck an Elcor's dick.
>>725492825Do like femshep and die
>>725464425Have you tried Anthem? It had a ton of issues but the gameplay was great and reminded me a lot of the fun I had with the ME3 multiplayer. It's getting permanently shut down in January and while I understand why it failed it was still kinda fun
>>725493537>most intelligent ME3 fanboy>an Anthem fanIt's like pottery
>>725493345I hate femshep and her shit VA.
>>725464425ME3 multiplayer was the most fun I've had in a videogame since Wolfenstein ET.It was legitimately great, and Andromeda murdered it, I will never stop being mad.
>>725493713You should have no problem understanding why you should be put down, then.
>>725492472>core gameplay>level and encounter designmy man I don't think you know what "core gameplay" means
>>725493804>>my man I don't think you know what "core gameplay" meansI don't think you understand the difference between "gameplay" and "gunplay"
>>725493797>You should have no problem understanding why you should be put down, then.Jack is waiting for me.
>>725493961That's not what you said.
>>725466221Turian Havocaccept no substitute
>>725494225You are conversing with two different anons.
>>725467939>I can't breath...>but da prize....
>>725494275Then why are you interjecting, you stupid sack of shit? Do you get off getting insulted, you piece of human waste?
>>725494353I didn't interject, I agreed with the anon that Femshep sucks. I never replied to (You)
>>725494418>I never replied to (You)You did reply to me, you fucking retard!I'm >>725493345
>>725494275Posting the ME3 version of Jack is a sign of homosexuality.
>>725494532Wait, then why are you angry at me when you're talking about beheading femshep? We both want that!>>725494657but that's where she's all soft and prone to cutesy outbursts with Shepard she then acts tsundere over when her proteges are around
>>725493795>Wolfenstein ET.Legendary call back there. v57
>>725494753I want bald Jack to stomp my balls if I don't perform well.
>>725466221>headbutt>headbutt>runs and nfl tackles some puny bastard>smashes enemy with hammer>headbutt
>>725494753>>Wait, then why are you angry at me when you're talking about beheading femshep? We both want that!Because why would you fucking reply to me, if you weren't the Quarian lover? Start your own fucking rant, mother fucker. Don't hijack mine.
>>725494657Don't even try to cope, ME3's version of Jack is just a straight up improvement over ME2's.
>>725494927Understandable. >>725494940Woah, Quarian-lover? I would rather you call me Indian than that.
>>725494930I'm still mad that he's not immune to sync kills like the juggernaut is.
>>725459964I always felt like it had good bits peppered in with shit and mediocre elements dominating it.
>>725494970So you're gay. Check.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peOOTd22mi0
>>725495297you're gay
>>725466221The Awakened Collector is the best class in any multiplayer game ever.
>>725494970
is it time to let go of mass effect? nobody even talks about kcd 2 anymore like this even though it was released this year. bioware literally has less than a 100 employees working for them now, veilguard was astonishingly shit: it has never been more over
>>725495797so long as IP laws exist we will never get a good Mass Effect game
>>725459964It's just that everything has gone to shit so much, it retroactively became good. Don't argue it, you know it's true.
>>725495797>is it time to let go of mass effect?None of the people here are waiting out for the next ME, anon. It will be whatever Mike Gamble thinks it should be and it's going to be radically short of what the fanbase needs it to be, to recover. We were just profoundly moved by the games, the circumstances of our lives at the time, and the unprecedented botching of ME3, so that something inside us collectively broke, to a degree that we will never recover. We are stuck here forever. It is a first world problem kind of hell, that nobody expected. A level of trust, belief and optimism that was shot dead right before our eyes. And yes, a video game did that.
>>725496174>franchise has been dead since 2017>Mike Gamble acts shocked on twitter on n7 day 2025 that we want to know more about ME5theyre so fucking stupid
>>725496174kek might be true. I suspect a lot of people here are millennials here who played it during their formative years like me. I still remember younger me being awe of the illusive man and how cool he was at the time. What a complete letdown
>>725496356Dorito Pope retweeted the "Civil War" wallpaper on his game awards account, so they may be telling us to keep our eyes open for a ME appearance at the game awards. But still, what Bioware has decided to go with for the next ME, is more important than them actually showing anything.
Are you guys ready? Superman is going to save Mass Effect.Or even better, Shepard IS Superman.
>>725459964The only real criticism about Mass Effect are 1) Tali's photo 2) stupid endings 3) change in tone from 1 to 2. 2 and 3 feel like the same tone, 1 is a completely different game.
>>725496724>DC>Not Looney Tunes>Shepard Bugs>Duffy Garrus
>>725496831>2 and 3 feel like the same tonelollmao even
>>725496852>Duffy
>>725497219Is it Daffy?Sorry, it's Daffy.I keep spelling it Duffy, like it's Duff McKagan from Guns'n'Roses.
>>725496852How about MKxME?Holy shit, all three of my waifus are in there.
>>725497384Wrong again, he is the space ranger Duck Dodgers.
>>725497529Duck Dodgers of the 23rd and a half century?
>>725496831> 2 and 3 feel like the same toneNah,ME1 conveyed that sense of space task force going on a big mission.ME2 conveyed the feels of a space officer investigating seedy parts of the galaxy and taking the time to know their new shady alliances.ME3 felt like rushing in an apocalypse. Just couldn't shake off that sense of urgency. I liked ME2 the most - being in terminus space, working with shady characters, without any official support from the alliance. You were on a mission but it wasn't a race against the clock, so the side missions did not feel like breaking the sequence.
>>725497718The very same!
>>725497786>Just couldn't shake off that sense of urgency.You know what's the stupid thing about it? You could fuck around however much you wanted. Go hub to hub, scan planets, evade Reapers on the Galaxy Map (so fucking retarded) and it didn't matter. You could waste hours doing this shit, just because you didn't feel engaging with the awful gameplay, and none of those days/weeks/months of in-game time meant anything. It's such a bad way of designing the game. Bioware were unable to keep even the illusion up for more than 4 minutes.
