I liked it.

>>725524717
It has the same trope of "Actually psycho MC who becomes unreasonably powerful or even more unreasonably powerful than they already were across the span of just a few days, usually under a month, to match and eventually surpass the creatures that supposedly no human should ever be able to beat ever because of some super duper bullshit power scaling and abilities"
The servants are way more fun to play as but they barely let you use them and you'll always be doing chip damage until you break their armor bar which takes way too fucking long to do so

It was okay.
I liked the plot but as a game I felt it suffer from not just being a musou despite wanting to be one

>>725526818
I really just wanted to play as the servants but you barely get to. You have to build up a bar with a limited amount of them over the course of a few battles usually and then there's a timer. I had way more fun just playing the servants than Iori.

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>>725526748
Is it more bullshit than this?

>>725526996
That made perfect sense, secondary.
As does Iori putting up a fight against Servants.

>>725524717
yeah i had a great time playing it. it's not going to win any awards but it's fun enough like Scarlet Nexus or an average tales game

>>725526996
This kind of japtardation goes way past being amusing and just kill any suspension of disbelief for the story.

>>725526996
Yeah. Iori goes from barely surviving random demonic beasts, literally barely able to scratch them in gameplay AND lore as characters point it out, without the help of a servant to "Actually, I just needed to meditate and practice a few nights and I had super secret training from Sasaki Kojiro ON TOP of my training from Musashi to become totally not an excuse to have an OC who is a mish mash of them both"
He goes from getting smacked around by everything, barely able to survive battles, to literally whipping out a double swallow cutter and beats Musashi only to lose to his femboy servant within the span of a couple weeks tops.

>>725527242
reddit lorefags really cant just enjoy a turn-your-brain off kinda game huh? everythings got to be about power scaling, canon or plot holes.

>>725524717
This is a pedophile

>>725527047
no lmao
guy was a shitter nobody who magically becomes super strong just like a majority of his other shitty MCs
>>725527351
if this took the span of a few years i could believe it but nasu has an issue of making people magnitudes stronger in mere moments with no real explanation. not transformations, not undiscovered mechanics, not boosts from other sources, not even extended training with specialized tools or resources. they literally just randomly get stronger because nasu and his writer friends think "Oh it'd be cool if they surpassed their limits suddenly I guess"
They saw a student and master and couldn't leave well enough alone. Iori HAD to surpass Musashi because they couldn't RESIST that trope. Not because he earned it but because the opportunity was there so he HAD to. They couldn't even come up with a real reason why he'd suddenly go from completely outmatched to Servant level. He has a handle full of a few hour long training sessions and "mental battles".
It's just bad story telling.

>>725527653
*hand full

>>725526996
Anon has never fought against wobbly punches.

>>725527474
I want to put half-japanese babies in this pedophile's belly !

>>725527653
Iori lived during a time when magic wasn't completely gone in the world.
The real people Servants are based on are always stronger, so he was trained by two masters that are way stronger than any Servant in the game. It follows that when he dedicates himself solely to improving that he'd be able to match Servants in combat.

>>725527970
The problem comes from the fact he didn't start the story that strong. They wanted to have both an MC that grows and an MC that was a super special OC who was a combo of musashi and kojiro. The gap is simply not believable. Not in that length of time.
There's also the issue of him being servant level and a COMBINATION of two of Japan's most famous swordsmen. There's no reason he should be struggling if he's already that strong. He's got a servant to help him out and 99.9999% of people even in his day aren't going to be anywhere near servant level.
It's just not a good plot, anon. He COULD have been that strong, he COULD have reasonable explanations for being that level, but he isn't and doesn't.
Him "dedicating himself solely to improving" doesn't matter when he achieves this in a mere few days because before he couldn't handle even vastly weaker demonic beasts.

>>725527970
What I don't buy is Iori being a supreme prodigy who even surpasses Musashi. Iori should not be better than Musashi in any timeline, least of all as a flesh and blood human.

>>725528294
The logic is probably that he had the sheer talent, but not the opportunity. This Grail War probably propelled him forward by forcing him to improve at an accelerated rate.

The problem, I guess, is that in doing so, his existence shits on the Heroic Spirits he fights. Musashi's status is diminished once she loses to him. Not just him. Everyone she fights and beats in Shimousa is shit on. This nobody, someone who, in real life, amounted to little more than a footnote in history, is a superior warrior to Minamoto no Raikou.

>>725524717
there are fewer ss musashi doujins than I'd hoped for

>>725527970
>>725528294
On top of that, it completely invalidates the existence and achievements of Musashi and Kojiro if some random guy could just train a couple days after learning briefly from them and surpass them both.
Yes, you could probably make some stupid excuse for why Infinity Musashi lost but she should outstat him flat out. He also learned from PRE-Infinity male Musashi who is canonically weaker and less skilled than Infinity Female Musashi.
>>725528412
Agreed. It's clear they just wanted a bullshit excuse to make their own OC that's a combo of Kojiro and Musashi.
>>725528652
>Musashi's status is diminished once she loses to him. Not just him. Everyone she fights and beats in Shimousa is shit on. This nobody, someone who, in real life, amounted to little more than a footnote in history, is a superior warrior to Minamoto no Raikou.
EXACTLY the issue at hand, on top of him skyrocketing his stats and skills out of nowhere.

>>725528849
>it completely invalidates the existence and achievements of Musashi and Kojiro
We've never actually seen either of them in any meaningful capacity, only their gimped Servant forms.

>>725528914
Musashi was a living, breathing person in Shimousa and then died. It's a plot point, anon.

>>725528757
Fate gets weirdly little porn in spite of its popularity, aside from AI. It's an interesting phenomenon I've noticed. The more popular an IP is, the more porn it gets. But there are exceptions to this rule. Fate, Genshin, the amount of port is disproportionately small. But then, with the advent of AI, it blows up expontentially. But since it's AI, you won't find many doujins.

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A technique she's already defeated and surpassed, she just gets one shot by anyway and from a guy who was just days ago barely above above other magecraft using samurai.

>>725528957
>in any meaningful capacity
The real Musashi would steamroll the Servant Musashi. So Iori shitting on a weak, fake version of Musashi shouldn't raise any eyebrows.

>>725529242
Nothing said she was weaker than her living self. You're also moving the goal post.

>>725524717
Yes.

>>725529242
Nah. Iori defeating even a Servant Musashi is nonsense. Historically, Iori was not especially talented at swordplay. He shouldn't even be able to beat Okita, much less Musashi.

>>725524717
Still surprised she doesn't have a doujin where she is summoned by a cute shota master but tries to surpress her urges until she can't hold it any longer and rapes him

>>725528957
FemMusashi isn't the real Musashi, that's also a plot point. She is a faker.

>>725529338
That's how all Servants work. Their limited both by the shitty Class system and their weaker Master's mana. This is a long established fact in the franchise with very few exceptions. Older humans were built different, so there isn't a problem with one being able to fight Servants.

>>725529498
She's also explicitly more skilled and more powerful than the Male Musashi who died never being able to achieve infinity.

>>725527351
>play a game in a franchise that caters specifically to autistic lorefags
>get upset when autistic lorefags complain about the lore
Not sure what to tell you.

>>725524717
It was the best action game of its year by far and the fact it wasn't in any of the TGA categories shows how anti japan the gaming industry still is.

>>725529592
What a ridiculous claim. Everything about the game except its gameplay was good, which, you know, is the most important thing at a game award ceremony.

>>725527351
I don't really give a shit about Fate lore, but even I have an issue with the Iori wank. Mostly because the end result of it is that it's an excuse to make you play as Iori more instead of the Servants that are the selling point of this whole goddamn franchise.

>>725529718
On what grounds?
It had an combat system with depth that was also still really approachable, it had great visual feedback to hits (which every single modern action game besides stellar blade hilariously fails at), it had amazing fights, amazing soundtrack, tons of varied places to fight in, cool ways to level up characters, a story that supported the action.
I literally fail to think of another action game since 2019 that was this feature complete and just straight up fun. The only reason why people would shit on this game is because it wasn't popular and as much as /v/ likes to think of themselves as hipsters, they only play the popular slop.

>>725529517
Iori was from the 1600s, long past any age where that would have been relevant. Servants aren't so weak that they'd lose so easily to any rando of that era. And Iori, despite being adopted by Musashi, was a rando.

Even in the Age of Gods, Servants were still much stronger than living humans. Thats why Gilgamesh summoned seven of them during the 7th Singularity. Sure they're mostly weaker than they were in life, but Tomoe-Gozen was mightier than any of Gilgamesh's finest soldiers.

>>725529932
>Sure they're mostly weaker than they were in life
All that random ass text when you agree with me lol

>>725529932
I find it really funny you guys are arguing about the idea of a human beating servants, when the literal first story of this entire franchise was about a guy trying to reach the power to fight servants.
Literally all Fate stories have human vs servant fights in them, half the fun of watching/playing Fate stuff is to see how the guy can beat the pseudo-god.

>>725530042
There were three routes' worth of justifications and caveats for Shirou. There are none for Iori. He's just so divinely talented that he's better than Musashi.

>>725530147
Multiple humans go up against servants.
I strongly encourage you to read the VN.

>>725530147
There are though, first of all, Samurai Remnant is quite the RPG focused action game, meaning that Iori getting stronger and you as a player getting better is literally baked into the gameplay and structure of the experience. And even exclusively story wise, all of Remnant is basically Iori fighting and also learning from each servant he comes across, deepening his abilities and also getting wiser from them.

what i'm getting from this thread is that FATE sucks because it's the equivalent of kids fighting on a playground shouting their random made up overpowered abilities, powerscalers hate it and people who don't read books consider it to be high literature and you're stupid for caring about having reasonably throughlines

>>725530228
Again, caveats and justifications. Some just happen to have a one-off affinity advantage. Others were buffed by an external factor. Others had their opponents debuffed. Regardless, none of them would be able to solo a Holy Grail War.

>>725530341
nothing in this thread is about any of that but okay

>>725530375
the current argument is literally about powerscaling

>>725530301
And? No one else would be able to do what he did, even if they had decades to prepare. Iori has an unreasonable degree of talent to pull off what he did.

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>best Fate thing by far since the og VN
>barely anyone played it cause the AA scene is dead

I hate humanity.

>>725530042
The big problem is that it completely invalidates everybody Musashi and Kojiro has ever faced as well as everything they've ever achieved.

>>725524717
It was decent, interesting story and characters (if you are into fateslop) and the combat is generally fun, but the boss fights are a massive slog. Also, no playable tardmamo.

It was enjoyable, I thought the boss fights weren't interesting enough to justify their length, or I might've just sucked, I can't remember, it's been awhile since I've played it. I looked up the other endings after I beat it once since I couldn't be assed to redo all those boss fights and I remember really liking the true ending.

>>725530685
No it doesn't. Musashi ends the game being so proud of her sweet baby boy, not only that he managed to stay alive but also become a wiser and stronger person. How does that invalidate Musashi? Kojiro doesn't do that much yeah but he still doesn't seem like he minds where his in the game that much.
This is why powerscaling fags suck. They throw away all narrative sensibilities and story context and just throw out meaningless babble.

>>725524717
I like it, it's the only Fate thing i've consumed though so maybe it's horrible to actual fans

>>725530907
You can't just destroy all wordbuilding just to make your OC history's greatest swordsman. Imagine if Muramasa created an even better holy sword that surpassed Excalibur. No matter how the narrative justifies it, that's still bullshit.

>>725524717
Is it a good musou game? I'm not into fateshit

>>725530907
>It's okay to shit on her achievements and legend because "ooooh the student surpasses the master~ look how proud she is~"
Read. All of her achievements, her skill, the opponents she faced, all of this is now made lesser because her student defeated her and closed this gap within a few nights.
Your whining about powerscaling is irrelevant. The narrative is now "Iori magically became stronger and more skilled than Musashi in a few nights." and now everything Musashi has done or even could do in the future IF she comes back is now invalidated by "Well Iori could have done it better".

>>725531012
thats not how writing works, the worldbuilding is always supposed to be in service to the main emotional story you're trying to make, all the lore concepts made in the original VN and other things that laid down the foundations for the series, were there because they were in service of the emotional story told be the characters in that specific narrative, they weren't implemented with any consideration of powerscaling or 100% consistent power lore. That's just straight up not how basic writing works.

>>725527653
>no lmao
>guy was a shitter nobody who magically becomes super strong
Yes he gets powered up by Caster's age of the gods strengthening magic. Kuzuki literally magically became strong. Kuzuki wasn't just some guy who could fight servants by himself - when he tries to do so after Caster dies Archer cuts him down instantly because he's nothing without it.

>>725531148
You can't just ignore everything that vame before. All that does is make the world less legitimate.

>>725531148
You also have to make something believable, anon. You're also ignoring the fact that narratively Musashi, Kojiro, everyone they've ever defeated, and everything they've ever achieved is now inferior to Iori because he's just outright better now.

>>725531190
I was talking about Iori, bro. Kuzuki makes sense because Medea was draining a fuck ton of people and amping Kuzuki up to a ridiculous degree with Age of Gods magic on top of all the stolen energy she's been storing from countless people and the world itself for days.
Honestly, Kojiro shouldn't have lost to Saber with that in mind.
Any fat, out of shape loser should be able to become Servant tier with the energy and buffs that Medea was pumping out.

>>725531059
I missed the part of the game where Iori time travelled and dimensional travelled to literally every single other Fate show/game/manga and killed everyone while doing the fortnite dance.
Was that in the new game +?

And again, this is entirely out of context. Iori bested her in a one on one emotional duel with both of them wanting to have a fight out of love and appreciation. This doesn't mean in the slightest that Iori would do better than Musashi in any other context. That's not how...fucking people work.

>>725531341
There's a limit to strengthening. Even with Age of Gods magic, you can't give someone EX-ranked stats across the board. Otherwise, Jason would have been invincible.

>>725531357
>That's not how...fucking people work.
They're characters, anon. Not people. Not your friends. They're narrative tools meant to be enjoyed and to tell a compelling, sensible story. Iori does not achieve this. It doesn't matter how emotional the duel is. The narrative paints Iori as outright better than Musashi and since they have the same skills, except Musashi doesn't have Swallow Cutter, he's now just a better Musashi.

If you wanna argue context, THAT is the context. Iori surpassed her. She's below him narratively, contextually, and is now simply an inferior version of Iori. She's been made lesser so Iori could be better. It fucking sucks and makes her achievements worthless because he can just will himself to be better in a few days.
That's a fucking awful story, fucking garbage context, and has no emotional weight to it.

>>725531357
That would be fine if that fight happened in a vacuum. But Iori beats multiple other Servants through raw talent alone. No matter how you look at it, he's the most talented swordsman in all of Fate.

>>725531245
What fucking logic is this?
Let's say you have a servant who has a big ass rocket launcher, and that rocket launcher is specifically amazing at killing eldritch reality threating gods. However that servant isn't that capable of just punching someone in the face. If they lose a one on one duel with someone, how does that invalidate all the gods that servant killed? The guy that beat them wouldn't have been able to do what that servant acomplished even if they bested them in a duel.

You can't make a fucking direct scalable line of power, we're talking about people and their skills and willpower, not a washing machine's power consumption. People can lose to someone and still be better than the person they lost to.
In Formula 1, Niki Lauda had an infamous rivalry with James Hunt. James Hunt ended up beating Niki Lauda and then retired from the sport. Niki Lauda ended up getting way more driver titles than him after that however and is considered a much better driver than Hunt. Hunt beating Lauda didn't invalidate any of his previous or future achivements. He just lost that one fight.

>>725524717
I fucking love shotacon /ss/ervants

>>725531564
>he can just will himself to be better

he beat a bunch of other people before the end of the game and also spent the entire game honing and training his skills.
I don't fucking know how much more of a training arc you can have than an entire game's worth of an RPG system buildup.

>>725531710
Because even with training, he should have failed. You think Okita could have done what he did with the sane circumstances. No, she would have failed. Okita is objectively less talented than Musashi.

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Mu/ss/ashi

Samurai Remnant biggest failing was not having any sex scenes.

>>725526748
So it’s kino?

>>725531059
>>725531341
>>725531564
>>725531573
>>725531806
this shit is why I don't engage with any Fate discussion ever, despite liking most of the IP's output. everytime you try to talk about cool stuff or story or even just how hot the waifus are, people get really mad and start talking retarded power scaling shit. yes I'm sure all the outrage over Tamamo beating Sir Cumsalot despite her riding skill being inferior is very relevant to my statement that I'd like to eat her pussy out while her fox tails are wrapped around my head.

>>725531880
That’s true.

>>725531573
Yeah, now every swordsman has to justify themselves with something or the question becomes "Why don't we just get Iori to do it?"
>>725531641
>What fucking logic is this?
Basic fucking logic. He defeated her, surpassed her, and narratively is superior. It's not a matter of specialized equipment. She's an inferior swordsman and he has techniques she doesn't. She doesn't have specialized skills, specialized weapons, or anything to justify her ever beating him now. That's the issue, anon. It wasn't some hyper contextual thing. It was raw skill and a 1 vs 1.
You can't justify her being able to beat him now. What could she have POSSIBLY done? Why did she lose to a technique she previously defeated? HOW would she surpass that? WHY did it even hurt her when he's supposed to barely be able to harm servants on his own?
Stop justifying bad writing. It's like if some other random student came out of nowhere and said "Actually, I trained with Kojiro too as well as a few other servants" and one shot Iori after this.
It's just pointless wank.
>>725531710
>he beat a bunch of other people before the end of the game and also spent the entire game honing and training his skills.
The entire game takes place over a few days and he had no reason to defeat these people other than the fact he had a servant to help him.
>>725531903
>Powerscaling
A guy surpassing some of the greatest swordsmen and warriors to ever live for no real reason over the course of a few days isn't power scaling. It's bad storytelling.

>>725531962
sometimes I wish mandatory writing classes were at thing in HS when I read retarded shit like this

>>725527474
its a woman, so is' funny and quirky xD

>>725532079
I wish you didn't think garbage was acceptable writing or world building.

>>725532079
Fate doesn't exist in a vacuum. You do need to respect the stories that came before. If only the context of the immediate story matters, then continuity shouldn't exist.

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>PLOTHOLE
>IT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE
>ITS NOT REALISTIC
>CINEMASIN SCORE NEGATIVE ONE MILLION

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>>725532082
Wrong, it's hot and arousing.

>>725532379
>no argument, just greentext and soijacks
ok lol

>>725532387
I wish I had a giant GF to treat me like this...

>>725527474
So are all Fate fans

>>725524717
>Written by sakurai
No it's nipwank garbage

>>725526996
Didn't he have Medusa using age of gods magic to buff him

>>725535031
Not Medusa, Medea.

>>725528652
don't forget after that, she goes on to fight greek gods like castor and pollux and helps against zeus
Also the chaos thing

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dun car
luv Iori
simple as

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I did enjoy the autistic "I must get stronger" guy dueling his very hungry femboy servant to the death at the end. Suitably unsatisfying end with no real winners and just survivors.

It's the closest thing to a Fate Grail War game, i dunno how they could translate this to the modern setting of the 5th War, what weapons would Shiro upgrade?

>>725529551
this nigga plays the FATE franchise for the lore

>>725531903
yeah anime lorefags are legitimately the biggest faggots in any community. nonstop debates about gay shit like
>powerscaling
>plot holes
>asspulls
>foreshadowing. "was Iori jerking off into his fundoshi in chapter 1 actually foreshadowing that musashi would be reborn as a woman with massive tits?"

some anon the other day posted about how likes watching black anime nerds because they actually enjoy the games/shows instead of being autistic about how in episode 67, goku said that he didnt know what a kiss was

I hope they make another one with Cu and Scath, the scandinavian part of Fate is super underused

>>725527351
nigga this is pretty much a visual novel with shit gameplay
If you don't play for the lore, there's no real reason to play at all

>>725537076
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Fate:Lost_Einherjar

>>725537230
Well then!

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>>725528757
Yeah sadly. If it's Musashi lewd stuff I have only in mind stuff from Kloah and Aster Crowl, nothing in particularly as new doujinshi only old ones.
>>725531818
Ye/ss/

>I let myself get posessed because betrayal builds character
Based retard

>>725524717
made for BWC

>>725526748
Lori becoming OP enough to fight servants is reasonable since he's both a student to Sasakiand Musashi. The entire war could be described as him sharping his skills against unbeatable superhumans in a trial of fire.
Plus its still not the modern era so mystery isn't completely, 100% dead and neutered(yet)

>>725534675
Retard still mad by posting debunked bait.

I like how these threads just out people that didn’t pay attention. Its like people enjoy erasing the fact that Takeru was the one beating the servants with Iori’s help and the only servant Iori even beat by himself was basically a berserker Musashi, you know the class that gets used to hype the underdog in this series. Same shit with how people are hyping Musashi in Shimosa and forgetting she was getting her shit kicked in as well and needed the help of the MC and Muramasa to beat the seven sword masters one of which actually nerfed themselves beforehand after being summoned, with the only one she actually beat by herself was Yagyuu who apparently was actually an alive human.

>>725542567
Anon, people still clown on the Kuzuki VS Saber fight as if both the narration and the characters didn't explain more than enough as to why Saber was at a disadvantage, sometimes you just can't get some things through some peoples skulls

>>725524717
>Japanese character
>Wear a qipao
My dick is fine with this.

>>725524717
Gameplay is ok at first but quickly becomes boring and grindy. The more interesting endings are locked behind replaying the whole thing with only a few ne scenes.
Overall 5/10 better than FGO I guess.

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>>725543484
Oops forgot pic

>>725526748
Servant wank is boring, anything that has the Masters actually able to fight is way more in line with FSN and what the series was from the start.

>>725526996
>I'M THE LEGENDARY KING, ARTHUR PENDR-ACK!!! AAAAIIIIEEEE KUNGFU TEACHER PLEASE HAVE MERCY!!

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>>725532082
Very true musashi's antics with young boys make me LMFAO every time

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>>725524717
I want to fuck a teenager.

>>725537230
Turning Apocrypha into "European Fate, but in a parallel universe" is lazy writing.

>>725543779
Better than what Apoc 1 was

>>725543695
>Ushi Gozen looks like Shuten
>Ibuki looks like Raikou

Bravo Raita

>>725524717
I personally didnt like it much. the story and characters were meh. then again this was my first introduction to the Fate series and maybe long time fans will enjoy it more. the combat on hard is also ridiculous with how fucking tanky the bosses are.

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>>725543695
Based

>>725544104
The Shimosa manga is such fucking kino. What a way to turn a garbage singularity into a great read

>>725544158
Too bad it updates at a snail pace.

>>725544347
Eh, I can wait, it's not like I don't know how it's gonna end

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The gameplay is kinda meh, but i enjoy a fate protag who isn't a goody two shoes but a murder hobo who pretends to be one and later on succumbs to the murder hobo

>>725544632
They're beautiful no matter how many times I see them...

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It has the best waifu in the franchise

Did they finish game? I mean all DLC out?

>>725531357
I don’t think you understand. Musashi solo’d the progenitor of the entire Greek pantheon. Some random fag beating her is pants on head retarded, after you’ve already shit your pants.

>>725545481
Actually Musashi beating a god (as with most things in FGO) is way more retarded than losing to her disciple.

>>725537076
>the Scandinavian part of fate is underused
>I hope they add more Celtic myth from the British isles!

>>725545481
>Musashi solo’d the progenitor of the entire Greek pantheon

Anon I am BEGGING you to actually read. She closed the little gap portal Chaos was peeking through, and even doing that permakilled her

>>725545565
That was insinuated with the comment “after shitting them”. They chose to purposely shit their pants, which is retarded, choosing to put it on your head afterwards is an even worse choice. Even if in theory putting your pants on your head isn’t as bad as shitting in them on purpose. It’s all bad but the order made it especially bad.

>>725545624
>a God
>cut
>defeated

>>725544951
Nice and plump

>>725545624
This cope was debunked like 6 years ago

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>>725524717
the results of this game's sales speak for themselves.
anyway whats with a thread about a dead franchise like fate being made here everyday?

what is it about 4chan that attracts this dying fandom?

>>725546190
What cope? It's literally what happens, the Storm Border drives Musashi close enough for her to use her void zero bullshit and close the path between wherever Chaos is and the Lostbelt

>>725546320
>>725545813

>>725546227
>what is it about 4chan that attracts this dying fandom?
ERP

>>725546227
>dead franchise like fate

???

>Could make anything you want using Fate as a basis
>Make nothing but shitty musous
Why?

>>725527242
>femboy
I wish you faggots would die.

>>725546914
You forgot rock paper scissors

Musashi didnt "fight" Chaos. It was an escort mission to stop him from crossing over.

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>>725544951
Cute teen butt

>>725546914
People want to control the servants

>>725546227
Its part of old 4chan history like how we still have EVA threads in /a/ arguing who best girl is today.

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>>725548697

>>725546227
>Dead franchise
>upcoming anime adaptation
>several ongoing mangas
>english versions of the VNs recently released
>second half of the tsukihime remake on the way
>gacha still tops the charts with every big banner
>maybe one day the extra remake will release

What else do you need them to do to consider it 'alive', anon?

>>725549105
Action games?
Fighting games?

>>725551442
Yes anon we would all love a character action game where you control Scactha or Raikou or Emiya. Maybe one day

>>725551442
Closes you’ll get is Melty Blood

>>725552750
I'll never forgive them for axing the FGO fighter French Bread was making.

>>725553329
Same

It's really mediocre. I'm genuinely surprised this game has its fans.

>>725524717
Yes

>>725526996
>secretly an assassin from an elite organization, ran away due to feelings of guilt
>moves in unnatural, unpredictable ways that contradict with what a trained warrior would be used to fight (martial artists can often get hit by rookies because they can't read them)
>specializes in hand to hand combat which Artoria would have little experience fighting against, being a knight and military commander
>buffed by one of the strongest sorceresses of the greatest era, when gods lived alongside humans
>despite all that, can only pull this fluke once because Saber gets used to his fighting technique

There is nothing wrong with this.

>>725555432
Don't forget that saber is nerfed to shit because shirou was taught to use magic wrong, as a joke

>>725555543
More like his circuits got fucked by the grail mud from the great Fuyuki fire.

>>725555432
>Instinct is the ability to instantly identify “the best personal course of action” during combat. At Rank A, it is essentially in the realm of predicting the future.
AHHHHH NO NOT THE WOBBLY PUNCHES MY FUTURE SIGHT AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>725557134
Yes fear the mountain monkey

>>725530451
>Iori has an unreasonable degree of talent to pull off what he did.
I don't see how that's a problem when it's acknowledged by everyone.

>>725531341
>>725555432
>Kuzuki makes sense because Medea was draining a fuck ton of people and amping Kuzuki up to a ridiculous degree with Age of Gods magic
>buffed by one of the strongest sorceresses of the greatest era, when gods lived alongside humans
Why is this belief so common among secondaries?

>>725557134
Kek

>>725547698
Thank god they got rid of that in the upcoming remake.

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Just on principle of making a turn-based Fate RPG that now doesn't have RPS gameplay, I think Extra could easily become the best Fate game in modern times purely because it's an RPG.
Plus the broad framework for its story is solid enough, and it has the cast shittalking your servant instead of praising Nero like she's a gift from Jesus himself.
CCC remake probably never though

>>725561686
it just has to FUCKING COME OUT ALREADY

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>>725561885
Just one more year.
Maybe they're taking their time shortening Arc's skirt to match Tsuki Re's design. Or if we're still doing Red Arc, then they're just giving her tights.

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>>725524717
It's the best Fate game after the Extras.
There's an identity crisis between trying to decide if it wants to be an action game or a musou, but it's still more than playable. While Nasu and Sakurai may have given them the bones and characters, the real KT team wrote a much better plot than most modern Fate works.

Think of the Shell meters as the real boss healthbars, and you'll have a better time understanding the combat rather than the anons screeching on release they were doing no damage.

>>725527351
>lorefags really cant just enjoy a turn-your-brain off
They already turned their brains off long ago since they're in truth mostly retarded powerlevel spics that can't understand and screech when big A-Rank loses to B-Rank. Nasu can describe in detail and do followup interviews explaining why a stronger servant lost in a certain context only for them to kvetch that 1kg of steel is heavier than 1kg of feathers

which servant do you think you'd summon based on compatibility

Are you team femboy Takeru or flattie Takeru?

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Iori is the best fate protaganist by far.

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>>725563125
lol

>>725563178
guda has killed more innocents than all the other people in that image put together lmao

>>725563320
lostbelts don't count, they're just simulations and not real

no really this game is so mid, how do people like it? Almost nothing happens in the story and then it just ends. It feels like a shell of what they were planning for a VN.
Iori's murder boner adds NOTHING to the plot except for a "bad ending route" where he jobs to Saber.

>>725564032
I agree
I played it for like 5 hours and dropped this shit. I want to play servants, not this dogshit litteral who

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>>725564032
It added an extra layer of tragedy for both Iori and Saber on the second playthrough. Every other servant picking up on it is a good touch too.

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>>725564032
>bad ending route
>only route he's fulfilled
baka brofam

>>725564797
Eh... I mean if there's no payoff (there is in that one ending and he JOBS), it's just flavor text.
>>725564156
don't be like that at least finish the game if you're going to call it mid. I mean gameplay wasn't great but the story pisses me off because there's a lot of interesting pieces and they do fucking NOTHING with them. As soon as you get some development, they either just die or disappear from the plot. Then there's like two endings where one half of the cast gets this and then the other half gets nothing and vice versa so it never feels satisfying at all.

>>725557134
The best course of action might be to minimize damage.
Also you're being a retard if you expect a knight from the medieval era to know about chinese martial arts.

>>725559524
I forgot the way it goes in the VN, only that Saber praised his way of walking and made that confused face.

>>725565457
>don't be like that at least finish the game if you're going to call it mid
Lmfao no. If a fate game doesn't manage to hold my interest in spite of me being a big fate fan after 5 hours it's dogshit
I played the original extra with no issue but this was just too shit

>>725565502
I expect the child of Uther pendragon posessing a dragon core and excalibur, being bred to unite britain and kill vortigern with the sword of the planet and the ability to see into the future to be better than an english teacher who hasn't trained his skills in years

>>725565731
Are you mad she struggles against Shirou in HF, Medusa in Fate and HF, Heracles in Fate, Gilgamesh and even a nameless swordsman who resembles Sasaki Kojirou ?

>>725524717
Tamamo Aria made the game worth the purchase alone

>>725565968
>Shirou in HF
Yes considering he's a demi servant but I can at least understand that archer spent his life training to find a way to beat her so it's fine
>Medusa
No? She's a servant with pretty big fame
>Heracles
If anything I'm mad she wins
>Gilgamesh
Same as above
>Kojiro
Yeah but it's symptomatic of fate thinking only nips are allowed to be good with swords

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>>725543695
Same

>>725551394
No one gives a shit about any of that unc. Your dead gay franchise is dead and gay. Deal with it.

>>725566427
I'm sorry that your hoyoslop is circling the drain, zoomer-kun. Don't worry, you'll find something else

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So how does Iori handle his dad becoming... this?

>>725566701
Man is basically asexual, so he didnt care

>>725566180
Archer is supposed to be low-tier.
Saber is supposed to be the class guaranteed to win.

>>725565613
I mean yes but at least finish the game first damn it. Extra starts off pretty well. I'm mixed on CCC but that was also good.
I dropped Extella HARD after the first level but I can't make an opinion on it.

>>725529192
he's using it with even more swords than before

>>725566701
I can see her nipples !

>>725566701
>"Why are you a woman?"
>"I'm not the same Miyamoto in this universe, okay?"
>"...What? What is Okay?"

Worth $35, or wait and see if it's discounted lower during the winter sale?

>>725567219
It's basically Age of Calamity with worse gameplay but a decent narrative instead.

>>725566807
>Archer is supposed to be low-tier.
He's never really though
>Keeps up with an angry lancer and stops his NP
>Kills Heracles 6 times
>Stomps cursed arm
>Can potentially beat Gilgamesh
The only time he gets properly stomped is against medusa iirc and that's due to him having shit magical resistance
>Saber is supposed to be the class guaranteed to win.
If that were the case the einzberns would've sniped it. It's reliable sure, but no guaranteed win

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>>725567219
I recall they are gonna cut the price, not sure when.. unless they already did it. Still wait for winter sale.

>>725567115
what would it be like having her as a servant

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>>725567818
Like having a golden retriever

>>725567818
Are you an underage and/or American male?
If so, it would be an extremely pleasant experience.
Otherwise quite frustrating.

>>725567219
It's worth pirating. If you pay money for this then you are a fool.

>>725565502
Caster didn't buff Kuzuki, she only gave him the ability to harm servants. It's like giving a skilled warrior a silver sword to fight a werewolf. Without it he couldn't do anything, but with it the werewolf is going down.

>>725535031
I don't remember him being buffed. Meduse jobbing to him offscreen was the show being lazy. Martial arts it's own magic bullshit, but he still jobs to archer. Glass cannon assassin man.

IRL martial arts has ties to demonic spirits, as do the magicks. so the writers weren't wrong to play up the power of martial arts.
>>725526996
He's a well accomplished assassin that has only used martial arts, of course he can have the potential to choke a Servant.

>>725568428
>>725568593
If that's true then explain how archer destroyed him the second caster died

Iori was raped as a child, he was broken from the start.

>>725568428
I'm pretty sure I remember Kuzukis' fists glowing with purple Medea energy, but that might be anime exclusive

>>725568795
Because servants are basically intangible to humans otherwise.
>>725568873
Anime only, and I imagine it's the main reason why so many people think he was buffed.

>>725568985
Well i feel like if its fine to show that in the anime adaptations then its a 'thing that could have happened' regardless

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>>725569080
No bro that's retarded. Shirou and Rin take multiple hits from Kuzuki. If he was buffed up by Caster they would have turned into paste.

>>725568428
holy fucking retard
>>725569542
shirou and rin are explicitly reinforcing themselves to take on servants and other magically buffed people

>>725569618
>DUDE caster is giving kazuki such powerful buffs he can render saber helpless!!!!
>uh please ignore that a random teenager that was trained wrong on purpose can buff himself just enough to have a better chance against kazuki than saber
lol

Fate has one of the dumbest and brown coded fandoms. Almost 2hu level.

>>725570039
>high school teacher can casually fling a girl in armor faster than a car

>>725570052
>brown coded
What the fuck does that mean?

>>725570431
The overwhelming majority of Fate pfp's are some strain of spic.

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>>725570584
i'm feeling very attacked right now

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>when the doujin artists and fan art draw red saber with panties
ITS A FUCKING LEOTARD YOU DUMBASS

>>725570825
have you tried choosing a better waifu than a saberclone knock-off?

>>725569542
Shirou has super regeneration though