Well?
>>725736452IPS glow is by far the least offensive
>>725736452IPS is the winner
I just burned my tongue.
should I get a VA mini led or wait for an IPS one?
It just werks
>>725736452IPS takes the crown easily
>>7257366414k when?
>>725736452IPS is the greatest if you're a poorfag. If you have money OLED is the obvious choice. Burn-in is practically a non-issue these days if you buy a good quality monitor and take good care of it.
>>725736452>oled burn inTurn it off when not gaming?
>>725736709what kind of "good care" are we talking about?>t. planning on upgrading in several months maybe
>>725736452Why can't we just have a fucking monitor without any of these issues? Goddamn humans should get their priorities right. Stop reseraching dumb shit nobody needs and start researching proper monitor technologies.
>>725736812Only using it for movies and video games without any static elements like hud and turning it off to cool every 2 hours It's not really a big issue
>>725736913kek
why don't they just make a good panel?
Why not play good games instead?
>>725736860We had one. It's called Cathode ray tube or crt for short. We moved past them becouse they were too big and looked old.
fast VA or IPS for browsing and OLED with BFI for gaming, preferably a WOLED TV with 120hz BFI support.It's barely more money than just buying one overpriced monitor that you think can do it all but actually never will (as oled monitors usually don't have BFI so their response time is wasted on motion blur, they have no HDR settings, no robust compensation cycles, and this tiny shitty size)You don't need top quality for browsing this shithole so the monitor doesn't matter. This solves the oled burn in issue because unless you're a degenerate who does more gaming daily than anything else, it will never burn in.
>>725736913Everyone says that. But is there build in feature that turns it off or dose the screen fix thing every 2 hours on its own?
>>725736452VA ghosting is pretty minimal nowadays, the problem is the shitty viewing angles, hence most of the VA monitors being curved.
>>725736709>>725737235>OLED for gaming>play 200 hours of Silksong>Silksong HUD is now a permanent feature of your $1.5k monitorcool
>>725737184yeah this is sad I wish the tech wasn't dropped suddenly like this. If they were still being produced today someone would have found a way to make them lighter and smaller eventually.They still have bad contrast, however.
>buy OLED for le perfect blacks>it's actually a pinkish mess unless you play in a pitch black roomFuck you OLED shills
>>725736913>just take good care of it>this means you can't use your computer the way YOU want unless you want to damage your monitor>THIS IS A GOOD THING GOY!being rich doesn't mean being fucking retard
>>725737598Just buy a new one every 2 years, what are you poor
>>725736452>What's QD-OLED?
>>725737447It's been years since it was a real issue
>>725736452>oled burn-instop leaving it on 24/7 with HDR on
>>725737478where does this new cope come from?
>>725736641I have the same monitor and I haven't noticed any ghosting with it despite it having a VA panel.Confirmed just werks
IPS glow is a big problem for images with a lot of black. My IPS monitor is properly calibrated and has 100% sRGB, so when I'm in my brightly lit room, viewing images and photos, the image is perfectly acceptable and switching to OLED seems like an unnecessary luxury.The problem is when I try to play games like Quake, or use programmes like Stellarium, or watch series and films with a lot of contrast and shadows and darkness, etc. Then everything goes to shit. That's when OLED becomes not just a luxury, but practically essential.>>725736812Don't listen to that fag, burn-in is a limitation of OLED technology and will happen sooner or later.If you leave your PC on for 18 hours a day running EXCEL or something like that, then you'll destroy your OLED, and it will be noticeable if you have eyes.I think the ideal is to have one or two IPS panels for work, and an OLED panel exclusively for entertainment, because that's what they were created for, for better image quality in audio-visual products.
Just don't play games with a lot of black
>>725737859they burn-in even faster.
>>725736452VA is the worst in practice, absolutely horrid tech for gaming.
>>725736641I bought two of these for my home office, whoever designed the stands are fucking retarded
>>725738386Literally opposite
>>725736641is this the 27" 1440p va monitor?I just got it two days agolooks good
>>725737761Buying useless shit that stop working as intended every 2 years and applying that to most of your material things is a good way to go from rich to poor. You'd know that if you ever had any meaningful amount of money instead of being neet leeching of your parents.
>>725736452Alright everyone, listen up, here's a lifehack.>order a bunch of popular IPS panels>turn off the lights and look at them through your mobile phone camera>return everything that looks like pic related>if you really like a certain model then order it again and again>eventually you'll get a perfect specimen with little to no glowIPS lottery is a real thing sadly, I don't know why they don't QC this shit
>>725738760Yes
>>725736709bro I bought an oled in 2022 and earlier this year my screen got funky as fuck and ended up having to buy a new monitor. fuck that shit man.
>>725736452>turn on the lights because I don't plan to go blind by 50 anyway>no more IPS GlowThe rest are unavoidable in normal conditions.
>>725738817>>order a bunch of popular IPS panels>>turn off the lights and look at them through your mobile phone cameraim just going to play video games on my ips panel instead
>>725737998>lying on the internet every oled burns in
>>725736709>burn in is PRACTICALLY A NON ISSUE>burns hud into your screen permanently after a year stop lying on the internet faggot, you're a lying piece of shit and your mother is a whore
>>725738516Even birds get 4 toes, meanwhile these fag-geneers think 3 is plenty to be stable
>>725739548>>725739491>va shills>goy the smearing is a non issue, just trust me, just buy the VA smearing shit and play video games on it>OLED shills>just trust me goy, the burn in is a non issue, just dance around using the monitor and be constantly on guard, actually you dont even need to do that it just doesnt burn in anything, its just has no downsides >IPS shillsthere is none, because everybody is already willingly using it, and everybody admits it's downside is lower contrast and glow in low light conditions.>TN shillsnobody says it's flawless, everybody admits it has bad viewing angles which make it utterly unusable on laptops or phones. Hardcore gamers who sti straight might have the least issue with this, but it's color and contast is weak. It's cheap and fast though.
Is Fast/Rapid IPS a meme?
>>725736452Not gonna lie... I didn't do proper research before purchasing and now have a mild case of regret because of VA ghosting.Silksong was a fucking Shitshow.
>>725739964VA is the wrost monitor type for gaming. I would beat the shit out of the shills that fooled me into this crap. They always say it's fine, or >it was bad before, but these days they fixed it and it's actually finethey say that every year.
>>725739491>lying on the internetevery display will eventually fail one way or another, no shit.There's many oleds who survived 6 or 8 years without burn-in too. They don't all die within 3 years like you're trying to imply. My own oled tv has no issue at all in 4 years and I doubt I'll see any issues in another 4 year at this rate. It depends on how exactly you're using them, that's the truth. The brand also matters, as the shittier brands don't run the correct compensation cycles which is why prevents burn-in.According to Rting's test, some IPSes tend to severely lose brightness over time and faster than oleds get burn-in in the worst conditions, yet nobody talks about this huh? Curious (and oled don't get less bright over time, they only consume more watts to compensate)
>>725740210>shills that fooled me into this crapTN shills are annoying too. I can't wait to get rid of this garbage.
>>725740368nobody downplays TN downsides, they have bad viewing angles and meh contrast and color.Nobody is going to go>nooo they totally fixed their viewing angles this year, buy it and watch your tn monitor at 80deg with no issues
>>725738373I swear black smear used to be a thing with OLED phone screens but nobody else seems to remember. I guess it's gone if nobody brings it up anymore.
>>725736503>least offensive >want to replay Thief>can't see shit on my IPS monitormy next one is certainly gonna be a VA panel or a cheaper OLED one
>>725736452Every monitor can burn-in.
>>725736452i can't fucking stand how every modern game has so much fucking ghosting in it. Every fucking game is just a shitty blurry ass mess.
>>725736452year ago I bought this shit because it was cheap, big and seemed to have decent refresh rate which i usually considered most important in monitorsthe only issues I noticed were SCANLINES in dark green to dark blue areas, if you sit close enough to the monitor (up to the arm's lenght) you notice the scanlines in darker colors (for some reason I don't see them in red and oranges). At first it was jarring but then I accepted it and it feels kinda 'soul', reminds me of CRT TVs, however the simple lifehack to make it go away is to recline my chair and get gamepad, it can't be seen from certain distancethe other problem I noticed in Elden ring when you were in dark cave every object in water had 'shimmer' around itotherwise I don't bitch too much, shit costs like 200 bucks anyway and it was certainly upgrade from my previous decade old monitoroh, it's also VA, I was mildly shocked because I never heard of anybody having scanlines on their flat screens besides emulating them in emulatorsimage: MSI MAG 32CQ6F (shitchan won't let me upload pictures with properly set up browser so name of the model will have to do)
>>725736452Which one is the best for artists?
>>725736592there are already some mini led IPS ones, I think Xiaomi G Pro 27i is one
>>725740282You use generic terms because you know that if you are objective, you will not be able to defend your position, which coincidentally encourages people to consume, as if you were an advertiser.OLED will burn out the moment you start using it. If you use your monitor for 12 hours a day, which is a totally expected number for most of those posting in this thread, you will notice burn-in within weeks if you perform specific tests. There are websites that perform this test for you, colors that should be homogeneous across the entire screen will no longer be so after just a few fucking WEEKS of use.And yes, it's not noticeable to the naked eye for the intended use of OLEDs, which is to consume audiovisual content.It's impossible to notice during a movie scene that an image isn't perfect because the magenta isn't uniform across the pixels on your screen, but if you use computer programs, then it starts to become much more realistic to have cases where there are solid colors in the background of an entire screen, and then you'll start to notice it if you have functional eyes.
>>725738817autism
>>725740210Hit me back when you play a game that uses DLSS and both that horrible ghosting stacks up with the VA ghosting.I stopped playing because I was staring at the screen in disbelief. How has this technology ever got greenlit after the first prototype and why is it still being developed?
>>725740210VA sucks because the pixel transitions is uneven across all brightness ranges, so the darker pixels smears more than brighter pixels, and that difference is very visible, even through the sample and hold motionblur.The only VAs you can consider are the Samsung ones as last time I checked they're the only ones who managed to fix dark level pixel transitions on their VAs (but, Samsung is otherwise a pretty shitty brand, but maybe someone else figured it out)But IPS or VA or OLEDs have the same level of sample and hold motion blur without BFI or some sort of strobbing active. This is the black pill I'm trying to get more people to understand. Between a 120hz IPS running 120fps game and an OLED in the same condition, the later won't even look less blurry in motion if it's not strobbing, due to how the human eye works
>>725736785Pic related>>725736452>VA ghosting>has ghosting in the only thing that doesn´t move in the scene
>>725738817>UltraGearFuck, that's the one I was planning to buy.
>>725736641It's a bit shit. Ghosting isn't really a huge problem but VRR doesn't really work properly on it. There's flickering even if you're in range, there's visible monitor-induced jitter in some games that I can't really get rid of unless I turn off VRR and turn the refresh rate down (and even then not always), and other issues as well. Even nvidia drivers don't think it supports Freesync properly for some reason.The HDR and contrast on it are good (though you have to fix the HDR colour profile) but god damn it comes with a bunch of caveats.
>Still no 4k 32" 4th gen glossy WOLEDs on the marketHurry the fuck up.
>>725740651Is it correct in saying that miniled with local dimming on will make>VA have even deeper black>IPS have black level on par with normal VA and eliminate glowing but introduce haloing
>>725739257It's still pretty noticeable in games where there's a lot of dark shit in the corners like in horror and the like. It doesn't bother me that much since I bought a cheap ASUS monitor because the previous screen that somehow didn't die for 15 years finally croaked and I don't really care, but it's still there.
>>725741057>glossy>WOLEDWhy? Matte and QD-OLED are way better.
>>725736452So VA is still the best?
>>725740282no you fucking idiot . oled burns in immediately, my monitor from 2017 is still working good because im using that instead of my oled thats fried and i have to replace it after 2 yearsstop lying on the internet to trick people into buying meme tier trash hardware that self destructs after a few years
>>725741156It depends for what kind of game do you use them if there are too much black it would upset you a little, as the trail that black zones is big (also browsing 4chan if you scroll too fast you can see a vertical trail of black when there is an spoiler)
>>725739776oled burn in is the only problem that completely ruins the monitor and makes it unusable after a few years>viewing anglesthe fuck is this complaint? you having a movie watch party with your 27 inch monitor in your bed room?
>>725741137What is better about them?
>>725736452>not just projecting the game's image directly to your mindngmi
>>725736452Screenshot 1: Shit game Screenshot 2: Shit gameScreenshot 3: Shit gameScreenshot 4: Shit gameHow about posting a better game when making a meme about hardware? Imagine, unironically, thinking Cyberpunk 2077 is anything other than a piece of fucking shit. Disagree with me? Cool, it just means you're a retarded and gay nigger.
>>725740210High end VAs are fine (and by high end I mean around $700 lmao). Quite a few VA shills just have those monitors so they genuinely have no idea how bad VAs not in that price range are.These days though you might as well get a OLED because they cost about the same lol.
>>725740773it takes thousands of hours, not fucking weeks. And we only know this from the BS worst case scenario from Rting with CNN at max brightness all day. Real usage won't even be that bad.I did those tests myself on bright colors and nothing is visible at all after years for me.You seem to think burn in and temporary image retention are the same.My conclusion overall is that despite this oled burn in is still a thing and one of the reason why I think you shouldn't be buying an oled monitor (but the burnin risk isn't not even the main reason imo) and you should instead buy 2 displays for different purposes and having an OLED one for content is actually worth the money considering how cheap oled TVs in particular are VS overpriced gay RGB monitors (ANY monitor and not just high end oled ones)
>>725741101yeah, I've read reports from people about the ips haloing, this may be a bitch if you play games on a darker side like FEAR or Doom 3
>>725741272Though shit my guy it must sucks to have BLACKED burned on your dead oled, I'm not a cuckhold though so my own oled still looks perfect after 4.5 years so I don't know, maybe don't watch the same thing on it all the time.
>>725741493Im planing to get 3 of these on Black friday and see if the ghosting is beareable (I play racing games). If they are really bad ill try with a set of IPSs,
>>725740528Still exists in VR headsets, maybe it doesn't exist in those that cost 1000 bucks or more but that's not worth it for me.
>>725741137during opposite day, maybe.
>>725741636>it takes thousands of hoursThat's like 50 days
>>725741926And probably he means when the burn-in is already unbearable, not that it strts to starts to appear
>>725740931It can happen to any of them even though these are very good. Like anon said it's a lottery, completely random.
>>725740643>BestOled or IPS from Flanders Scientific.
>>725736452I've had an oled for almost a year, I use for for at least 12 hours each day.I keep the brightness at 2-3%, this is one thing I like, it doesn't burn my eyes like those garbage IPS did, I kept those at 0% and they were like 50% brightness of this.I have a black screensaver in case I leave for more than 5 minutes, it has a function to refresh for a few minutes every 4 hours, after a few months I stopped giving a fuck about it and turned the message off, now I refresh it once or twice depending on the day.I also always leave the taskbar on and I have a browser open a lot of the day so the top bar is often on the screen.So far no burn-in at all.The only regret I have is that I bought a 1440p ultrawide instead of a 32 inch 4k. 1440p just doesn't have the clarity to make the most use of a OLED, it feels like it's getting wasted. I also see shilling of 27 inch 4k, those are really fking bad, I had one of those, but it was an IPS, it's just too small for 4k, big scam, you need at least 32 inch for 4k.If this ever breaks I'll move to 4k 32 inch oled next time.Also make sure you get a glossy one and don't get baited into retarded matte ones.
>>725741406Nothing. QD OLED are worse than WOLED, they don't even have true blacks unless you're in a pitch black room, and a matter panel would only exacerbate this problem.I have no idea what anon is on about.
>>725736452https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQIyqtTe6Tc
I got the Samsung G50D, seems like the most affordable 1440p screen.
>>725742129Ho wide is the border?
>>725740617The scanlines are a problem with the display driver IC. If you have them then there's nothing you can do about them unfortunately.
>>725742316Like how you see on the pic
>>725736641
>>725736452Don't forget OLED Aggressive ABL + VRR Flicker
>>725742428I mean in mm, I see the ratio of border/screen on the image..>0.8mmMmm guess ill look for something smaller.
>>725736503Agreed. It's been 2 months with my first IPS screen, and while the glow annoyed me at first, it's a lot more bearable than the TN viewing angles.
>>7257420284k at 27" is fine though.
>>725736452IT IS 202520+25HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT VIDEO GAME MONITORS STILL AREN'T A SOLVED PROBLEMHOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOBODY INVENTED A GOOD MONITOR YETWE SPEND ALL OF OUR LIVES STARING AT SCREENS AND THEY'RE ALL SHITWHAT THE FUCK ARE ENGINEER BOFFINS EVEN DOING
>>725741636>burn in isn't real and isn't applicable to normal use!stop lying faggotpathetic little shill go suck some cock faggot
>>725743328because its easier to sell overpriced monitors that destroy themselves after 2 years than cheap monitors that last 10 years
OLED has the best image and doesn't have burn in issues now
>>725743819You are brown
VA. i game at 60fps and blurring is non existent
>>725736452Burn in, because it is never that bad.
>>725736452>IPS>VA>TNAll of those are day1 issues, add "Backlight Gamble" to all of them too, another manufacturing roll of the dice that is expected and can't be traded in for.>OLED burn-inthe only thing that comes years after your purchase, if at all, and there's a warranty for - which at least with LG includes their team coming to your place & fully installing a new panel, no question asked.The only legit reason not to buy OLED, yes even as a 16h a day main PC monitor, is if you live in a mediterranean mansion and play in a room surrounded by glass walls with no blinds.
>>725741156Fuck no
>>725744816OLEDs are costs too much.
>>725736452You only watch it from 1 angle so TN.
>>725745284If you can't afford to spend between $1000-2000 for the thing you look at the most, then you don't have priorities in order. Same for those who don't spend around $1000 for a chair, I simply just don't understand people who cheap out of those 2 things. Assuming the usual 8h+ daily usage
>>725736503No, it's TN. Why would you care about viewing angles on a gaming monitor? Do you not face your monitor straight on when playing?
>>725738373I don't get it
>>725736503I couldn't get over IPS glow. It looks like the image is on top of the screen. Meanwhile with TN it looks like I am actually looking INSIDE the screen. Also when you have any light source behind you like a lamp it will reflect some back, and I can see my own silhouette in some one color scenes.
>>725746058Right becomes extremely smeary while the camera is moving then suddenly becomes clear at the end when it stops. Left is also smeary but not as bad.If you look at the blue stair it's a pretty big difference.
>>725736452Works on my machine
>>725743328just buy TN
>>725745660>he actually sits on a chair instead of using his gaming time to perfect a meditation positionInefficient as fuck
>>725739732It’s not just that, the two pointers in front makes it a bitch to line up the monitors next to each other and sort other stuff on the table
>>725740651I need a 4k one
>>725749051Not him but pic related is comfy even on a chair.
>>725745660Chairs shouldn't cost that much
>>725736452just buy a 4k tv, done
Modern OLEDs don't get burn it like that anymore. Hell most of these concerns are for cheaper/older versions of these.
>>725749658Faggots also mistake image retention with burn-in.
>>725742582I understood this reference
>>725742582excellent
>>725736641Based
>>725736452TN is the least relevant one. But the problem is that TN has shit colours in general so everything looks mediocre.You basically buy an OLED monitor every 3 years if you want to spend money, and if not, you hunt for the very rare good implementations of whatever else. Samsung has some VA monitors with acceptable ghosting. Some high-end TNs probably have decent colours. Etc.
>>725736503Arguing about which IPS, VA, and TN is best is like debating what your favorite shade of brown is on your turds
>>725740870>The only VAs you can consider are the Samsung ones as last time I checked they're the only ones who managed to fix dark level pixel transitions on their VAs>>725741493>High end VAs are fineand here we go, shills on damage control
>>725749658You don't understand. I leave my OLED on CNN 24/7 on max brightness for a decade! Also that one airport schedule OLED, and and-
