Hands down, best Platinum game.
>>725919170Agreed. And if its not the best, then its the most fun.
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>>725921432OH NO NO NO NO PLATKEKS DONT LOOK
>>725919170I just got to the Ryu campaignThis game is REALLY stingy with Weapon XP it's pissing me off
I hope they add an ultra high graphics setting or something this is awful
>>725919935most definitely the most fun. all of platinum games before this had hints of greatness but they could never help and shit themselves completely. such as the bayonetta games with all the bs halting the action such as the turret section and long as fuck space harrier stage or the fact that many stages had long walking sections without any enemies showing up halting the pacing. as for NG4 even the on rail grind or the flying segment are fun and dont overstay.
>>725921432I don’t get it, what are attempting to show here?
>>725922747that enemies anti air you unlike fags here said pre release
>>725922747Enemy attacks clearly missing but the player taking damage anyway
>>725919170true. ayane being a whore for the new guy is cringe though
>>725921432>NOOO ENEMIES SHOULD REMAIN STILL WHILE I TRY TO DO MY LITTLE COMBOS.Learn how to position yourself, retard.
>>725922853the enemy didn't miss, they strike with hitboxes, not models
>>725919170>removes the bow>it's the best game in the seriesI guess it was really that simple all along
>>725922853but the webm clearly shows the player getting hit. youre an idiot.
>>725919170>CHASED DOWN BY THE ORDER>THE BLADE'S AMBITION IGNITES>AN EMBER OF HOPE IN THE NIIIIIIIGHT>MERCILESS BLOODSHED>AN UNSTOPPABLE LETHAL FORCE>ENSLAVED TO THE CALL OF THE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTWhy is Platinum like this?
>>725922461You can play as Hayabussi?
>>725919170Best since DMC5 for sure.
>>725921432dont have to make good hitboxes when you have 5 yard magnetism for attacks
Only watched clips but i dont like how every area seems like a blueish/red big box. Is there a reason for it or just platinum being lazy in level design?
>>725923661After you finish the game yes. But he has his own sections too. He feels way better to play imo, but it's mainly due to the fact that bloodbind sucks to use, while gleam doesn't require any of the clunky charging or timing to get the maximum power of the attack
>>725923661His gameplay is literally in all the promos dudeProbably the funnest Ryu/DS moveset though honestly it's a bit absurdly strong compared to Yakumo
>>725924287>>725924270Gleam being instant makes it easier to use on-reaction but BBs don't suck. It just means that Yakumo has to put in a lot more effort compared to Ryu and I do prefer that.Ryu kinda shits out absurd damage for very little effort.>>725924198The game is pretty goes through a lot of colors (red light district, mountain/valley, etc.) actually but yeah there's a lot of blue throughoutThe combat arenas themselves.. well they're more varied than NG3RE especially in the mountain chapters where they approach NGB levels, but overall it's not as varied as NG2. At the same time though there's quite a bit more enemy variety than the older NG games.
>>725921432>enemy has bigass hitboxes and an uppercut attack>ignore said enemy and get your ass hit>"it's shit design, guys!"No more free izuna drop for you, fags.
>>725919170The only games I've played from Platinum before are MGRR and Nier: Automata, and compared to those I'd say, yeah, NG4 is a much better game IMO.
>>725924798Normally I'm okay with the whole thing except when some STUPID IDIOT DOODOOHEAD snas you out of a UT.
YaKINO really grew on me after the end. Now i'm trying to understand his gameplay better. I tried to jump to MN right after finishing normal but got my ass handed, so i'll try hard mode and use everything this time since i kept using the twin swords and the ninja funbox only.
I am so lazy to do all these side quests for the achievements... And you need to finish the chapter for it to count oh my days...
>>725921932I get what they tried to do with this (teach players the complete moveset gradually) but at the end of the day previous titles did a better job or at least it was more fun to master a weapon.
>>725922461Are you sure you don't have upscaling activated? Using it is like playing on low settings.
>>725922889What was the point of Ayane anyway. She does literally nothing.>>725923430Bows will be introduced in the DLC.
I could kill for a mod that makes reloading faster in Ligma 1 and one that skips the map screen fake loading in 3RE
>>725926724Yeah, his gameplay is really fun so I ended up liking him.
>>725926724You could do the trials on Hard first instead if you don't feel like doing three playthroughs, and then jump into Master Ninja. The trials will unlock some stuff you can use in the campaign too.
>>725927623>>725921932Do the purgatories on Hell mode. some might seem very difficult at first, but purgatories are the same across all difficulties.
>>725928397It's really funny how purgatories on Hell felt insanely difficult and made me wonder if I should stick with that difficulty but on my second playthrough on MN they're always the easiest part of the level.
>kage hiruko has a unique and useless windpath when done out of the vaulting move999999 ninjacoins to whoever finds an application for it
>>725928986Seems like it could be a good hit confirm for any moves that have a small hitbox and could whiff after a regular windpath. Having trouble thinking of any that would be worth the bloodbind cost of doing the vault, but for example I imagine NonBR 360X with kage hiruko wouldn't connect after regular wind path but would with this one.
>my ranks on master ninja are higher than on normal and hardI am growing stronger
post the suck to target compilation webm
>DDO soldiers inspecting Tyrann's ravensoul
Also reminder that drill OTs against most humanoid enemies tend to heal more than any other OT in the game (with the leeching charm) and also give the most meter for berserk. Probably an oversight since the same drill OT against the sickle enemies gives the regular amount. >>725929136The 360x does actually connect off of the regular windpath if you buffer it at least.
>>725928986It makes sense considering it has a far greater distinction between long range and close range attacks. You also land a little faster.
>>725919170Bayonetta mogs and clears
How is Xbox emulation these days? I want to give NGB a try.
Why was Ayane in the game? She didn't do anything.
The game is good, but Ryu shouldn't be in here. Those 4 Ryu levels are a fucking snoozefest compared to Yakumo's.
Seriously though these costumes were NOT made to be drawn repeatedly. I'm just sticking with the black facemask from the Pre-Order outfit, not gonna draw the Tengu mask like 3x a page
>>725930908She gives you missions and shows her tits, what more do you need?
>>725931016Nice
>>725919170recency biased, fomo vulnerable weak bitch
>>725931016mondainai
NG4 isn't even top 3. as soon as I beat it I had to reinstall 2 to wash the taste of that garbage out of my mouth
>>725931490>Sigma 2 Unreal Engine edition
>>725931490>Unreal remake
>>725930705Man, everyday is something new in this game. Shit happens so fast while playing that i never pay attention to those things. Also, berserk mode do anything other than charge those one hit kill moves? I only use it for that.
>>725931553>>725931572I'm not wasting my time emulating 2 again and dealing with audio bugs and dogshit bosses like da worm
>>725931601At least use the White modhttps://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaiden2black/mods/30
>>725931959>fanfiction modno thanks. if I want the authentic experience I will emulate the og version, not busa's crazed headcanon
>>725932068Yeah, Sigma 2 Black 0.14 is the best modded experience, but you're already playing fanfiction anyway considering the differences it has even to Sigma.
>>725930908Ayane always has a small appearance in every NG
>>725932068>plays worst version Grim
Shame we're never getting a Ninja Gaiden game after Ninja Gaiden 2
this game bussin frfr ong
>>725923643BLACKENED RAIN BECKONS OUR BLOODLINE'S AMENDS!
CLASHING CONVICTIONSTHERE IS NO TURNING BACKTHE LAST LIIIINE OF DEFENSETO STAND UP FOR PRIDE AND CONTRADICTIONJUSTICE IS THE END WE CRAVE
>>725928028>Bows will be introduced in the DLCMy brother in Vigoor, sauce?
>>725930908she clearly made my penis hard
>>725934084I made it up.
>>725934340
This.
I truly wish NG4 was a pure cyberpunk ninja adventure with Yakumo, Seori and Misaki being hunted down rigorously by Ryu and the DDO, with fiends controlling some areas around cyberpunk Tokyo instead of immediately shifting to a forest setting remaining there for a quite a while. With that being said NG4 is as close to perfect as an action game can get but this dementia ass fanbase just wants more NG2 instead.
>>725931580Attacks with instakill properties let you stunlock the bosses, so always do those before unleashing the L3 + R3 nuke.
NGS refuses to target the flying monks, holy shit.
>>725934605Don't shill your twitter, man.
>>725934605wow no way deep insight
>Stoopid: Ninja Gaiden never had combos>But the game rewarded you for doing combos *NGB screenshot with the combo score things*>Stoopid: A..Actually they had those, but it was not the focus.Those guys backtrack harder than a webspinner.
>>725935956X+A + direction
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>>725936938OOOOOOOOPSSSSSS FLYING CAT COMING THROUGH, TARGET HIM INSTEAD
>>725919170Play it now>>725917009
>>725937219I did back then. My second favorite Platinum game.
>>725937019If this was a bloodbath kill it would have been so kino KEK
>>725935438That's good to know. On bosses i would always berserk and go straight for the L3 + R3 nuke.>>725937019Kek! Based pride of the raven clan.
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>>725937098Ow, he takes his opinions from TWO twitter retards. Hilarious.
getting two tapped by everything isn't fun
>>725937791This is my main complain. Doing a MN run isn't as fun as MN run in previous entries.
>>725937870>Doing a MN run isn't as fun as MN run in previous entries.hayashi has been doing this slop since sigma 2
>>725936938Not NGS but.>X+A+Direction>Somehow, Yakumo target an off screen enemy.>The tengu dodge>Fall into a bottomless pit.
>>725937971idk, I didn't play the wrong NG games.
>>725938053tough life>>725937207kill the cats first :)their double mewmew string is unsafe on block I think
>>725937791It's definitely overtuned, but Hard also feels a tad too easy after you get used to MN. This game needed Mentor really bad.
>TakeminakataYou can't go wrong with a jack of all trade. The BR is pretty fun with all the extending slashes.>YatousenI like it and the drill, but unfortunaly its only truly useful to finish off the remaining enemies lf a fight and for boss battles.>MagatsuchiNot my favourite weapon despite being one of the best. Like, it AOE good, but its not very powerful. The hammer is goated however.>Kage-Hiruko10/10 weapon. Nothing more to say.>DDBIts mostly there for symbolism, and I kind of unserstand it HOWEVER it not having a BR True DDB form with the Ninja Gaiden 1 heavy sword moveset is mega lame.
whats your go to landing method? I try and Takeminakata heavy bloodraven twice because just landing or doing some vertical endlag-heavy attack leaves you too open
>>725937791it is fun tho
>>725939506You can do it with inazune drop. Perfect dodging also works as landing but I'm not 100% sure how it works.
>>725939542not really. >Die in two hits>revive and reload checkpoint>reload right before the fight>get hit one less time and win>go to next fight>rinse repeat>S rankI'd rather less damage but more enemies and less checkpoints
>>725939631>Perfect dodging also works as landing but I'm not 100% sure how it works.Maybe by holding Y during the animation? Not sure how it works.Speaking of UT, am I stupid or you have to hold the block button even before your attack animations ends to NOT suck the essence?
>>725939925just play better...
>>725940036at the point where you can play well enough to never be hit how does the increased damage matter?
>>725935386cyberpunk and by extension all sci fi is fuckin trash, Platinum can only make things that look like Astral Chain anymore so they permanently killed Ninja Gaiden by pushing it 30 years into the future and erasing the series' characters and identity
>>725940194yeah idk, not like you are getting no hits or anything
Decent threadI feel like 90% of NG threads are filled with bait and that retard who keeps linking his channelAnyway, I was thinking, where did Nero fail where Yakumo succeded?I remember Nero being pretty hated for being a replacement, but Yakumo seems to be ok or even praised for being practically the same thing
>>725939965It should works as in previous entries, you can only get them once you stop doing inputs.
>>725940961Yakumo has more than 1 weapon
>>725940961>where did Nero fail where Yakumo succeded
>>725937791Pure skill issue.If you get hit with two attacks that deal enough damage to two shot you in a row then that's entirely on your own lack of awareness and skill.This is MASTER NINJA, not for ninja dogs.
>>725921432Old Ninja Gaiden would never
>>725939925>less damage but more enemiesmore enemies literally doesn't matter when BR/Gleam abilities can wipe 4 niggas in an instant
>literally nobody talking about the game >all youtubers are back to making videos about 1&2>the only people that still care are platinum autists mumbling about frame data aka nerd shit a real ninja doesn't even think aboutSAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>725940961Because people LOVE Dante, and because Nero plays totally differently from him.Like, we all love Ryu but we'd play the girls too. DMCfans were going rabid for more Dante at the time, then a new game comes out and it's Nero.Yakumo feels like he's in the same archetype of combat as Ryu except he's got more dickass dirty attacks.Also, come on. Yakumo is a lot cooler and more fun than Nero.
>>725940961>Anyway, I was thinking, where did Nero fail where Yakumo succeded?Yakumo doesn't have a Rev Button, has different weapons, and a better DT.Hell, not only he has a better DT that modify his entire moveset, include ranged and jumps, he has a better and simpler version of the Rev Button on Magatsuchi and Kage-Hiruko.So yeah, Yakumo mog that fool Nero.Also, Yakumo is based on Karas and Kaneki vs Nero being based on Ichigo
>>725940961The time gap is probably a big part of it. It was what, 3 years between 3 and 4? Nobody even expected a NG4 anymore at this point. You can see with 5 that people learned to like Nero over the years too. Donte on the other hand never really won anyone over, people would feel betrayed all over again if the reboot came back.
>first 3 chaptersHELL YEA THIS IS PEAK I WANNA MOTORBOAT SEORI>Tengu chaptersSame enemies over and over and the stupid fucking hang glider segments and a shitty boss>shark raveHELL YEA KINO I'M SMASHING THROUGH DIMENSIONS>tank bossThis is NG3-level shit. This weird projectile hybrid weapon is kinda unique at least.>Ryu segmentHELL YEA THIS IS AWESOME IM GETTING SSS EVERY MISSION aw god dammit this is all recycled content, including the fucking tengu boss>final chapterThis is the exact same level I just did last chapter. The fucking ending credits had more unique asset-reuse than this.Overall it's got bright spots but extremely flawed. This skeleton crew at Platinum has potential. I know level/boss reuse is normal in NG series but that's not a good thing. Passing on Ryu's moveset and concocting a crap story just to make Ryu physically incapable of beating the boss and Yakumo is the chosen one. Went back to play Sigma 2 Black again and it's still the best modern NG.
>>725931094>shows her titsNo, she does not.
>Ryu get huge punch daggers>Yakumo get the scythe (in BB mode)It would be funny if the daggers had a pilebunker mechanism. It would make sense why they so huge.Also, considering Yatousen is a Rapier that transform into a Drill Lance, I fully expect the Blood Scythe's base form to be a curved sword.
>>725944129It would've been nice to mention the raven clan in Ragebound at least, it would feel less of an ass pull
>>725944446Pile bunker would be great, but I like someone's theory that the blades come with a chain and you'll have both a punch moveset and then you shoot the baldes and you have a chain moveset, would be so sick.
>>725944825That would be cool. It would be nice if Ryu's gimmick is to use the weapons at their full potential, so each weapons comes with a unique gimmick.Now, that would mean he'll only get 2 or 3 weapons, but that would be the fun option.
>>725927623Is xbox super gay or why are they afraid of women?
>>725944446I would pay for DLC that makes Yakumo have fewer weapons and less levels in exchange for Ryu having his series back
>>725945459You're 35 years old and bald.
>>725944446I hope Yakumo gets to use Ryu's new weapon as well.
>>725945794Technically, they could share the weapons. Bloodbind works with any weapons apparently, its just that the one Seori used for her ritual were already powerful on their own.
>>725940828>Cyberpunk and by extension all sci fi is fucking trashHating anything futuristic is signs of low intelligence >Platinum erased ng's character and identityI am still waiting to hear what core gameplay element Platinum removed from 3D Ninja Gaiden that causes people to say 4 is not a Ninja Gaiden game. It's just 2fags seething about how the game isn't as poorly designed as that game.
>>725946892I said characters and identity. But your way works too. If you take flying swallow, izuna drop and UT out of the movelist, the first 80% of NG4 has nothing to do with Ninja Gaiden in both gameplay and story. It's like saying if you put Stinger, High Time and Helm Splitter into a platinum action game then it becomes Devil May Cry.
>>725944446Only thing that can salvage this game for me is if this DLC revives Seori and also revels Umi's fat tits
>>725944446(man what fag ai goyscaled this image holy shit)
>>725940961>where did Nero fail where Yakumo succeded?dmc 4 sold above 2 millionsninja gayden 4 was a flop
>>725937653Bayo 4 development for super switch
>>725947720Story in 3D Ninja Gaiden was always an afterthought(even if I find NGB story to have an interesting hook) and for gameplay the enemies are still as aggressive as previous entries while also enhancing their defensive capabilities. Outside of the controls taking a while to get used to, Platinum didn't remove essential elements of 3D NG.
>>725919170No.
>>725919170Loved the buttrock for the first snd last boss, pure hype
>>725950576It was emo trash. Emo in 20fucking25.
>Hands down, best Platinum game.Yes, but that's not actually a high bar.I love the game but I can recognize it's also a poorly made in too many aspects.It's still not the perfect NG game. I don't think any of them is perfect.
>>725921432How is the hit detection in this game so awful? When are the shills going to stop pretending its good? It must be because Microsoft funded this game and they put most of the budget into shilling it online.
>>725951373hit detection? it works fine in this game
>>725944129The tengu chapters were very nice though. Only the boss is insane retarded strong, and boring to fight. Even the tank is better.>Went back to play Sigma 2 Black again and it's still the best modern NGSucckgg maballs 2 will never be best anything, unless you're using that one mod, then sure, maaybe.personally I had my fill of spamming UTs all day in NG2.
>>725950654>Emo in 2025Now that's what I call Edgekino
>>725951587Maybe he means modded 2 Ligma Balls.
I want Flails...
>ninja gaiden 4 thread>half the posts are twitter screenshotsWhy are (You) like this?
>>725952992NG2 bros are notorious drama queens.
>>725927623>cuts out sigma cringe out of the trailerbased
Ryu evolved from Rape Boss to Master Rapist in NG4 holy crap, bro violates the enemies with extreme prejudice
>>725954919Getting the RE Ayane treatment was good for him.
>>725934605...The fuck is this demi-human trying to communicate? That people don't understand NG, therefore they secretly like beat em ups? Thanks retard, you could've said that more simply if it was even worth saying, I guess soil and roots aren't a good diet for cognitive health.
>>725937098That's not true at all and anyone who's played both games for an hour can confirm it. You can look up any playthrough of NG2 and find moments where enemies are circling on the outside of the action while you fight their allies. Likewise you can find moments in NG4 where someone is playing, anyone, go watch Farnham's playthrough where he complains constantly while enemies hit him from behind quicker than he can react because he isn't paying attention.
>>725937791The defensive options are so powerful in this game it's much more reasonable, it just comes down to specific enemy types that might be too annoying but then you can still challenge yourself on hard mode with two characters which is a lot of gameplay.
Anyone praising this dogshit is a literally retarded secondary who doesnt understand at ALL how NG plays and has never completed any actual NG game on master
>>725937791You don't get two tapped by everything unless you actually somehow get hit by like two grabs in a row or two power attacks in a row or decided to start Master Ninja on a fresh save despite the difficulty being balanced around a save that has already completed Normal or Hard.Some bosses will definitely two tap you a lot though.
>>725955797The overall quality of animations in this are so much worse than the previous NG games. I don't know if its because the game was more rushed or platinum just doesn't have the talent of OG team ninja
>>725955420Why do you think I stopped bothering with that guy?
>>725921432In all honesty, what's the real difference between this and the old NG games having an enemy instantly grab you after coming down from an air combo? Both serve the purpose of punishing you for mindlessly trying to escape the crowd by going into the air without doing proper crowd control.
>>725955992>or platinum just doesn't have the talent of OG team ninjaIt is this and they never did have the talent. Most of the gaming industry at that time and even today don't have the talent of that Itagaki led version of Team Ninja. People likely forgot but during those days DOA was known for its outstanding graphics and animations. Ninja Gaiden was also known for the same thing in addition to being super hard and seen as one of if not the very best in the genre. Then of course things went south right before the release of the second game which Itagaki never got to properly follow up on with what should have been that games real Black version. Not the fraud imposter that they released months ago or whenever it was.
I don't care if its not OP, Yatousen is the GOAT!
>>725956636>they never did have the talentanimation work in bayo was super good nigga
>>725919170Not by a long shot. Nier Automata is. MGR as well. NG4 is decent.
>>725921432Anyone that's played mentor and master ninja NG2 has had a similar situation of a mage absolutely raping you with a flame pillar out of nowhere while you're trying to air combo another enemy.
is she best doa girl right..
>>725937653LolLmao even
Literally the worst checkpoint system in a video game ever. Why not just have the game save at the shrine.
>>725956881Japanese female artist that draw sexy girls are treasures, period.
>>725955786I have completed Ninja Gaiden Black on Master Ninja and I am praising Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>725956989You can save at shrines if you use the training mode. It's a bit annoying, but it works at least.
Sorry but Bayo 1 is unmatched.
>>725957061>paizuri arrow
>>725956989I think it was like that at some point but they couldn't properly balance the difficulty and went with the actual system. Balance is also the reason you get free items for dying.
>>725957276Yeeesssss also, Seori and her have partial areolas textured in and hidden behind clothes, but I didn't think of saving the image that demonstrated it.
>>725956989If the game simply kept any purchased upgrades and equipment loadout in a separate "character save" it checks independently from level progression save, that would fix my issues. I don't mind how far back it takes me on reload, that just means the game wants me to complete this section at once to prove my worth before saving again, but literally nothing is gained by having to change my accessories every single time, or force a checkpoint through Tyran.
>>725957274It's definitely the main runner up. MGR also has better bosses and music but considerably weaker enemies and levels.
>>725957998I think the best bosses in NG4 are better than the best ones from MGR, but MGR's entire boss roster is of a much higher and more consistent quality.I also think MGR's bosses have better presentation, which goes a long way.
